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Bubble tea!

vandalizm

reverting everything of my edits is vandalizm if i understood correct —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blablaaa (talkcontribs) 19:32, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i have done nearly all of this here [[1]] , what now? i spended hours to search for admins and search for third opionion, i spended hour to explain my edits and ask for explanation of his ones. i create maps for the article and add content, and he reverts it always . what is this, what is the name for this. can someone simply what to do. i want to improve the article i add statements and entire sections and he reverts without explanations. what are my options, deleting my account. everyone sends me links to "disolve disputes" i have done this already this methods dont work... Blablaaa (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blablaaa and Dapi seem to have reached an agreement to work together collegially going forward, so I have unblocked him. If you think I've missed something, I won't consider reinstating the block to be wheel warring. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:56, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, we'll see how this one goes. Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:47, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandra Daddario

Hi. The birth info you added was already removed four times already, for reasons I explained on that article's Talk Page. Please do not add it again without citing a reliable source in the article text. Nightscream (talk) 17:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A little more polite might have been nice. Do you prefer tv.com ? movietome.com ? listown.com ? I can find a few dozen sites that list the birthday the same way. It's a non-controvertial piece of information. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if you thought I was not polite. (Which passage was impolite?) D.O.B. is not "minor". It is important information that like all other info, must be sourced. The only information on Wikipedia that doesn't need to be sourced is stuff like "Christmas is on December 25". Yes, other BLP's lack sourcing for this, and they are wrong too. I didn't know you were an admin, though. But yes, I argue this point frequently, since WP:NOR, WP:V, WP:RS and WP:CS must be upheld.

If there are "multiple sources", and they pass WP:RS, then adding them should be easy. As long as they pass WP:RS and are given in the form of an inline citation, any of them would be fine. Sources whose content is user-generated, however, do not pass WP:RS. The content on TV.com, for example, is user-generated. If you look at the movietome page for Alexandra, you'll notice the link that says "Submit a bio", which would indicate the same thing about that site as well. As for listown, I don't know if the links that say, "Join In", "Submit Blog", or "Post A AD" would indicate the same thing, but I started a discussion at RSN to address this. The bottom line is, you can't just slap any ol' info in an article because you found it elsewhere on the internet. Blogs, sites with user-generated content, sites that mirror Wikikpedia, etc., are not reliable.

See this at the top of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons:

Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.

See also Jimmy Wales' words on the subject here. Nightscream (talk) 18:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Križevci anchor

Hi, I was wondering, under which criterion did you speedy delete the Križevci anchor article? Timbouctou (talk) 18:15, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability. It was originally tagged as too short to get the context, but from what I read, it was clearly a private zoo - context was great. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R3

Why did you speedily delete Craig hoffman under R3? The name of an article in lower case letters is a completely plausible search term, is it not? Swarm(Talk) 22:45, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, not the way the search engine works. We don't do redirects from lowercase. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We don't? Every article name I've ever typed in in lowercase redirected me to the proper article. WP:R even mentions "likely alternative capitalizations" as a reason for redirecting. The other thing is that you speedied it as implausible. Do you really think typing something in lowercase is implausible? I do it all the time, since Wikipedia is streamlined enough to not give me an annoying search engine page every time I don't capitalize someone's last name. Swarm(Talk) 20:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have restored it. Honestly, more polite discussion would have been more beneficial than the above - I'm extremely open to positive discourse in these matters, and DRV sure would not have been needed. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I sincerely apologize, BWilkins. I didn't mean to come off as rude, but I see that I did. At the time I felt that I stated my argument clearly and rationally, and since you didn't respond to me (though I saw you were responding to later comments), I assumed you were not going to listen to me any more, so I asked for the deletion review. However, if it was rudeness that caused you not to repsond, again, I'm sorry. I don't know why I took such a hostile tone, but it was quite dickish on my part. If it's worth anything to you, thanks for overturning your deletion. Regards, Swarm(Talk) 01:33, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why you delete my article?

Why you delete my article?

In my article there's nothing show promotion/advertising

about profile company

so please, don't delete my article

Johannovtirajamal (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article (note: it's not your article) has three specific tags related to its deletion on your talkpage as to why it should not remain on Wikipedia. It has now been deleted 3 times because of it. It included the text of a speech from the chairman - it can't get much more promotional than that. It ended up with the phrase "Get the brighter future with Telkom Education Foundation" - that's pure sales/promotion. It was also deleted once as a copyright violation. Because you failed to respond to the problems, and simply re-created it, it has been prevented from re-creation at this time. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:21, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

translation Salpêtrière school

Thank you for adding the references. I was planning on adding them en vrac as they say in french, doing all the references at once. With regards to the title...Charcot is associated with Salpêtrière and the Salpêtrière school is referred to in other articles in english on hypnosis. Or we can use Salpêtrière School of hypnosis...or Salpêtrière School (Charcot) The French title is, as you see, the Salpêtrière School (Hypnosis) but I don't find it satisfactory. The Paris School is really associated with art and it might be too confusing. I will continue to think about this. Thank you for the help. Will you be helping in the future? If so, let me know if this is a good way to communicate.--Lilymaielang 08:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilymaielang (talkcontribs)

Selina Hakki

Just had a question. At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Selina Hakki this was closed as a redirect to Flunitrazepam#Drug-facilitated_robbery but it looks like the page was deleted and no redirect left. I was thinking of adding this as a redirect, but thought I'd check first in case there was some reasoning that I missed. Thanks.--Cube lurker (talk) 19:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed ... for some reason, the "delete before redirect" missed the second half of that command. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks.--Cube lurker (talk) 14:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Singarella

An article that you have been involved in editing, Singarella, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singarella. Thank you.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Woogee (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I declined a speedy as it was tagged wrong, and made some minor fixes as I did ... why not just PROD it? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That attack page

In fact that page, if you read it, is not preparing to file a sock puppet case. The case has already been decided on the majority of that list, with clear evidence that it was not proven as I noted in my complaint about the page at WP:AN on the accounts MisterSoup, KermitClown and SkagRiverKing. Those names were disproven already at an WP:SPI case. It's nothing but speculation and allegations about editors in good standing with no proof or diffs to support his suspicions. Four of the names are of editors in good standing. But you know, go ahead and run a checkuser for Pinkadelica, Crohnie, Mosedschurte and Yachtsman1. They are not me and I am not them. I don't even know where he dug up Mosedschurte and Yachtsman1, except from articles we've worked on. That page also contains attack commentary like "Possibly relevant: the contents of User:Wildhartlivie/Viewpoints & Politics are all pretty straightforward lefty stuff, so you'd think there'd be a pro–gay rights or gay marriage box there. Nope." Judgment of my political beliefs and stances based on userboxes on my userpage and conclusions based on his POV from that. This page is not a SPI case in progess, it exists solely as an attack. I find the reticence of some of the administrators here to deal with this disappointing and a huge let down. It does qualify under WP:CSD G10 and the editor clearly said he "would probably delete it in the near future" here, so how does that support he has any intention to use it. He's gone around to various talk pages all over this website posting content just like this, which I won't revert because he'll attack me for doing it and how interesting that no one will revert it or deal with the attack page either. Yeah, I was blocked last month for a week, but damn it, I did my block time and for some reason, I keep coming up against reluctance from administrators to deal with any issues that are raised by other editors that I bring up. What? I'm scum now? I don't deserve to have done my "time" and come back? Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:08, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not willing to speedy it ... I said to MFD it. It's nothing against you here, and MFD is most common for this case. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:16, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But if I nominate it for MFD, then I am opening myself up to being attacked again. I wrote to three different administrators about this, as well as a couple editors who are active in AN and AN/I and dispute resolution and no one responded. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:31, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
G10 doesn't only apply to BLP subjects, Bwilkins. No comment as to whether it actually meets G10's other facets though. –xenotalk 16:42, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Craig hoffman

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Craig hoffman. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Swarm(Talk) 22:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As above. More polite discourse could have avoided this. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:11, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I note your comment on User talk:Tedd-the-Tiger about the deletion of user talk archives. However, according to WP:DELTALK, it is only archives created by page moves that should not be deleted (as deleting would clear the history). User talk archives created by simple copy-and-paste appear to be OK as all the information is retained in the user talk page's history. Would you be able to delete the archive of Tedd-the-Tiger's talk page (which was created by the cut-and-paste method rather than page move, retaining history on main user talk page) please? If there's a problem I would be happy to discuss. Thanks, Arctic Night 04:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, solved now. Thanks, Arctic Night 08:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pieter Markoe

You deleted Pieter Markoe under WP:CSD#A1 (no context). It seems to me that the statement in the article that "Peter Markoe was Dep. Gov at British Spanish Town (Virgin Gorda)ca. 1718" provided context. The article could have used expansion, copyediting, and better sourcing, but I think the context was there for anyone interested to find out more. Please consider undeleting it. Thank you. DES (talk) 05:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reading the article, the first and longest sentence was about Jan, the second about Peter, and the third was about Philip ... the context problem therefore was that "who is the article really about"? Although I now see that there's some obvious COI (someone doing some family history), I would be happy to userfy it for the editor. I will defer to your take on it - let me know. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is at least one google books result. Please userfy to me (or to the incubator if you prefer), i will either source this well enough for a return to article space, or (if I can't) transfer it to the creating editor, or delete it if that editor does not want it. DES (talk) 19:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Done It's here for you. Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. DES (talk) 16:31, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page concerns

Hi - I gave User:JoyDiamond an ultimatum about changing or removing her talk page content based on the fact that the majority of what is there violates WP's talk page guidelines. She did not respond. Where should I go to have this situation looked at for fair, unbiased administrator opinion (minus the chiding and mocking and gneral unhelpfulness I have been subjected to on other occasions when requesting similar comments re: JD)? --SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BEANS, SRQ.... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 22:24, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd leave her be honestly - stay as far away from her talkpage as possible. I know I said the same thing months ago. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Daniel Rostén

This created redlinks and broke a (my) redirect and you removed an important disambiguation for Arioch. Presently if someone searches for Mortuus or Arioch there is absolutely nothing concerning the man. What do you propose? I have justified my reasons for making the page but I feel they are falling on deaf ears. A redirect to Funeral Mist or Marduk doesn't work. Wikipedia needs this page. Urpunkt 17:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As this has come to my notice, I do feel that a deletion done in a speedy and unilateral manner is grossly inappropriate and counter-productive. Could it not have been simply nominated for deletion or had a notice inserted so people familiar with the subject and perhaps willing to devote time - which people who delete articles in such indiscriminate fashion seem to lack - to making improvements could have some input instead? Is that a problem? Dark Prime (talk) 21:40, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't received a response and I do want to create this article again. So here goes: Daniel Rostén.Urpunkt 23:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with restoration as it didn't meet A7 criterion, since there was a "credible claim of significance or importance". However, references need to be added. Ty 23:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto on references. Also, more information could be included - such as the incident a couple of months ago with a drunk fan on stage, and Morgan's reasons for choosing Mortuus in light of Marduk's history with Legion. Dark Prime (talk) 23:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)The speedy request was actually removed by User:Mhking,[2] who had originally placed it,[3] and then replaced along with "hang on" a minute later[4] (presumably by mistake with a near edit-conflict) by Urpunkt, who wants to keep the article. Ty 23:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the light of all the above, I've restored all versions of the article and talk page. I hope that is OK with you, Bwilkins. Ty 00:00, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No prob - I was off throwing up most of last evening, didn't get a chance to clear up issues. It was - as noted - not a unilateral deletion. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Glad we could sort this out, thanks Urpunkt 09:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some crossed wires, but sorted. I hope you are recovered. Doesn't sound a very pleasant evening. Ty 17:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not fully yet, but thanks. I still see zero notability in the article ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Pieter Markoe correction

My contribution regarding Pieter Markoe was brief because there was no elaborate way to say Pieter Markoe was not the Governor of Dutch St. Eustatius in 1736-1737. The interim gov that period was Jan Markoe, Jr. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkoeJohn (talkcontribs) 12:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see above, the short article was userfied into a good editor's hands to see if they can do something to fix it. Sources are always vital. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: PROD VS CSD

Sure thingMod mmg (talk) 21:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I had been given advice to use PROD on my new page patrol, rather than speedydelete, however, the fact that the page in question was being deleted under a CSD policy on a PROD tag dosen't discredit the fact that the page needed to be deleted. Whether the page was to be deleted under CSD or PROD is irrelevant, it was to be deleted. I have been given advice to delete with a PROD tag when patrolling new pages, and the page was to be deleted under a CSD policy. My point: it was going to be deleted anyway, CSD or PROD.Mod mmg (talk) 07:40, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply on my talk page.[reply]

EDIT: I also refer you here for a wikipedia policy that justifies my reasoning. You may also want to read up on thispolicy as well as this one.

Mod mmg (talk) 07:47, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply on my talk page.[reply]
How so, did you look at the policies I refered to?
Mod MMG (User Page) Reply on my talkpage. DO NOT CLICK this link 00:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Userfication request

Could you please userificate the Sniff Petrol article you deleted and transfer it to my userspace? Thanks. --Ckyliu (talk) 15:31, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was created and deleted. It went through AfD and was deleted by community decision. You then created it again. I can userfy it, but first, explain to me what you're going to do differently this time. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't create the previous versions of this article and I've never seen them, so as far as I'm aware, the new version should already be substantially different and therefore shouldn't of been deleteable under CFSD G4. The previous deletion logs, Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sniff_Petrol, mention reasons for deletion as CFSD A3, A7, WP:WEB, lack of references, all of which I was attempting to address more thoroughly and seeking advice on when the article was deleted, hence the request for userification. Since deletion I have found mention of this e-magazine in The Times[5] and Irish Times[6]. My actual feeling is that as a substantially different article in the process of being written it should of gone through AfD again, or at least been give more than 12 hours, hence the userification request. --Ckyliu (talk) 16:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC) PS: I'd be grateful if you could grab me the talk page for the article too, many thanks.[reply]
Ok, it's located in your userspace here. WP:CSD does not require anyone to be given 12hr notice - indeed, having read it, I would have A7'd the article (in fact I think I did). Good luck! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much :-) --77.86.126.237 (talk) 02:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Trial Complete?

Once you're satisfied that the trial conditions have been met, add {{BotTrialComplete}} and a comment to the BRFA. I've reviewed the log and have seen nothing where the bot opted for deletion inappropriately (I am not an admin). Josh Parris 01:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for your work on this! I look forward to WildBot tagging for G7 again :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:25, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now that the bot is approved, I've turned tagging back on. Yay! Josh Parris 08:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recreate Article

I will no longer write anything to do with advertising or promotion I will make back the article "Telkom Education Foundation" was without any promotion or advertising so please get me to This article in Wikipedia and also I will not repeat it again so please allow me to make it again with what has been defined by Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannovtirajamal (talkcontribs) 13:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)--Johannovtirajamal (talk) 06:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC) Johannovtirajamal (talk) 07:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've been away from WP for a few days and came back to see how you handled User:Alloyvalves' unblock request (I was the one who initially blocked her). My compliments - I think you handled it absolutely perfectly.--Kubigula (talk) 01:11, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ... appreciate the note! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


purple.travel

hello, i want to add this new social network i found online to the list of social networks but i can't do it..can you please tell me what i should do ..thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madmatte (talkcontribs) 11:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are millions of social networking sites, and this one is not notable, so unless you can somehow find when it becomes notable, it has no place. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I discovered that you have deleted the page about the Awesome WM. I wonder if there is a possibility to reestablish this article. Since I am only a casual contributer here at en-wikipedia I am not very familiar with the common rules here. On my home-WP (de) I would simply utter a recovery request or participate in a deletion debate. Both things seem to work differently here and I could not find an appropriate entry point for a discussion. I used the Awesome page at en-WP as a source of information about this WM until a German page will be available. So I would be very interested in a recovery. Regards, --HV (talk) 14:10, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It did go through a deletion discussion here, and the decision was clearly to delete. Restoring the information was therefore invalid. Have a look at the discussion and let me know what you think. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, the discussion seems to me being a bit biased by people who simply never heard about this WM and so do not care about it. I am a only an occasional user of this software, which I consider as indeed very useful in some situations, but did until yet never realize that the group of users might be a minority. In fact I do know some other people who use it more seriously than me, but that's about it. Unfortunately I now discovered the deletion discussion here too late. I would have argued that awesome is part of the window managers repository of openSuse (see here). Same is true I think for ubuntu and other linux distris. So this I think is a strong criterion for keeping it, because that's the way usually people get the idea to install this software and then possibly consult wikipedia for more information. How could I continue to revive this article? Or is it too late now? --HV (talk) 12:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What I would do would be to draft a new article in your personal userspace (WP:SANDBOX). Source it, ensure notability, and all the key requirements of Wikipedia. When you think it looks good, have a few people take a look - maybe even some of those who !voted in the Deletion discussion. Articles that are similar to one that was deleted via AFD can been immediately removed - the new article would have to be much different, and much better. I also suggest the title might not have been great ... is "windows manager" really a good disambiguation, or would "software" have been better? Hope thees suggestions help (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For the time being I would not consider myself as being able to contribute with a better article. As I said above I am only an occasional user of awesome and just beginning with it. As a reader I used the article as a source of information (and luckily could save a version of it from google-cache). Secondly English is not my mother tongue and so I somewhat hesitate contributing a whole article to this wikipedia. What I could do is informing the other people I know which use awesome regularly and ask them if they might contribute something. --HV (talk) 16:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Brian Todd

When I requested speedy deletion, the article was full of nonsense claiming the reporter was a lizard and a link to this YouTube video. After I tagged it for speedy deletion, the original editor changed the content to something more rational. Sorry for the confusion. -WikiFew (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No issues! Cheers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ravenfeathers

I see that you blocked and cut off email access for Haida chieftain (talk · contribs) today. You may also want to look at the new user Ravenfeathers (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who appears to very quickly have decided that Canwest needs edits made to it. I started to revert the edit to Talk:Canwest myself, but on second thought, I'd rather a set of eyes not involved in the editing of Canwest to have a look at it. —C.Fred (talk) 22:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see he's been blocked as an obvious sock. After 3 increasingly harassing e-mails, I had no choice but to remove e-mail access. I don't mind passion ... but ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Koenig Article/Pronunciation

Hi Bwilkins,

I did not understand your comment here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cub68134#Walter_Koenig_article

Perhaps you can clarify how WP-CONSENSUS applies to how Walter pronounces his name? Or perhaps you can let me know what you were referring to if that was not what you were referring to in relationship to WP-CONSENSUS.

The only other thing I can think of is the "working together" aspect. I simply reverted from an incorrect pronunciation to the correct one as per Walter himself. And it seems that this may simply be a case of (1) Cub accidentally switched to the wrong pronunciation with the correct intent in mind, or (2) I put my message on the wrong page and it should have been directed at someone else.

This is JUST a question (as I am kinda new here - at least as an editor): Anyway, even though it is not an issue here, I am curious how WP-CONSENSUS would apply to such matters where (this case as an example) the person has publicly pronounced his name "kay-nig" (sorry, no proper phonetics) and has even publicly gotten upset when it is mispronounced "ko-nig"? Wouldn't citable, verifiable reality trump consensus (that could not be cited)?

See what I am trying to ask? Again, using this example, it is 100% impossible to find anywhere, any instance of Walter pronouncing his name "ko-nig" and very easy to find him pronounce it "kay-nig" - so, since one is impossible to cite, and the other is easily citable, how would that affect or invalidate WP-CONSENSUS?

I am guessing, but wanted clarification, that finding the citations to get the consensus to be accurate may be the method?

Thanks again for your time.

Best, Robert RobertMfromLI | User Talk 23:36, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm re-reading what I wrote below above and think it may be coming off the wrong way... either confrontational, or idiotic. So, please dont take it either way, as neither is intended. If clarification of what I am trying to say is needed (or it seems confrontational or idiotic), just ask... and I will be glad to try to clarify.
Just have a lot on my mind and a buncha stuff I am working on due to recent events.
RobertMfromLI | User Talk 23:54, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
From what I read, the pronunciation had been wrong, I believe that you brought up the correct pronunciation, the other editor had fixed it to what you suggested - that means you both agreed with the change, and thus consensus reached. I cared little about right/wrong but about people agreeing and fixing it to the agreed-to version. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And thanks for your understanding of the horrendous wording and explanation I gave above. In a better state today and realizing what I wrote definitely did not come out the way I intended. Thanks again for the explanation and the calm (especially in contrast to my own) response.

Best, RobertMfromLI | User Talk 20:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Andre

Well, he had some other subpages which I had to likewise delete. It's all about his political aspirations.

If he gets elected, then we'll do an article about him. But at the level he's trying for... no. DS (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unless he becomes a really good dogcatcher once elected :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He's back (see my talk page) - apparently he's recovered from quite a bad infection, and is politely asking what he did wrong. Would you mind explaining to him? Thanks. DS (talk) 03:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Summation of elohim

Thanks, I just couldn't pin down under what it went. ChrisDHDR 15:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:04, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Altered speedy deletion rationale: Buggzie

When I tagged the page all it said was;

"Buggzie is awesome!"

Or something along those lines. Doesn't that qualify as A1 (or even A3), as well as G3, which you deleted it under? And, off the subject, but thank you very much for giving me the chance to work on improving Lukundo Nalungwe.
Kindest regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 16:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it turned to Vandalism when he merely copy/pasted the same line into the article about 40 times :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see SpitfireTally-ho! 20:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Jade Starr article deletion

hi there. I have added the sources into the article. Thank you for your help and time. Please let me know if I need to do anything else to fix the article. As you can tell, I am new at this. :) Update: I added some more sources, cleaned up the formatting some, and fixed my signature on here. Thanks again! Phantomcowboy (talk) 20:36, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How does it look? Do I need to do anything else? Phantomcowboy (talk) 20:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry

Oh, after reading your messages on my talkpage I must admit I was wrong, looks like I'll have to actually think about what policy I'm nominating a page for deletion under, and thanks!
Mod MMG (User Page) Reply on my talkpage. DO NOT CLICK this link 23:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:18, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, would you care to close? Dlohcierekim 12:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Odd that it was an active CSD when I handled it ... and should have remained that way. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The creator removed the AFD tag a number of times, someone came along and retagged for CSD. Turns out that the creator modified and userfied the article-- it was about him after all. Dlohcierekim 13:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of WP:BURO then in order to delete a simple A7 / COI issue? As a minimum it was an unsourced BLP. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for unblock page moving very slowly

Hello. The requests for unblock page has been moving very slowly today, and some users have been waiting quite a few hours. Just wondering if you could help. If you can't, please delete this message. Thanks.Chuckcreator (talk) 16:36, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have looked at all of them - many have been awaiting replies from the editor for some time, and might just turn into declines. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:24, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of the MacGuffin Film Podcast Page

I believe the MacGuffin Film Podcast page deserves inclusion, because it provides an outlet for film discussion and an avenue to understand the work and artists who make films. I believe it is certainly just as relevant as a podcast like Comic Geek Speak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Geek_Speak). If you could help me understand why that page is relevant and the MacGuffin Film Podcast page is not I will correct it accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heitbwp (talkcontribs) 19:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability. Oh, and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Applicants

Hey, Was trying to upload new page for Applicants. For sources I included a reference from a British national newspaper and an article published by the Joe Meek Society (although it was reproduced on LastFM) I was about to link to some reviews and interviews published on independent websites (including drownedinsound.com) but the article was deleted. Anything I could/should do to get the article up to scratch? Adamrbsv (talk) 23:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I hadn't mentioned it but the band satisfies this criteria: - Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network

- having received regular airplay on BBC6 Music. Would stating this have made the article acceptable? Adamrbsv (talk) 23:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As the sites you're using are not reliable sources, (you would need to properly source the "rotation" as well) and all the searches that I have done find zero notability results, I cannot see this easily making it ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is guardian.co.uk really not a reliable source? It seems to fit the criteria. I'm not sure about sourcing the rotation. I've found this page - [7] - would that count? (Sorry to keep on bothering you!) Adamrbsv (talk) 00:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian should be a reliable source - it's a prestigious UK broadsheet, with wide coverage of music subjects, and an article in the Friday section should be acceptable. Not sure what BWilkins is thinking, but he's normally a sensible sort of chap so you should be able to discuss with him. Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issues with much of the Guardian. It depends whether it's a blog on the Guardian, or a wide-covering article and not a mere mention. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:00, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, you're a sensible chap, so the editor should be able to discuss with you why there was a problem in this instance, given that the Grauniad is normally sufficiently reliable (they even spell properly these days). Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Andre 01:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I am Andre39 - I didn't understand your directions for fixing it - all pictures were ours to use, and whether or not it is an appropriate use of a page, I still do not understand what was wrong with it. I still have the code - what can I do to fix it? I went to alot of work to put it up, and the only reason I have not logged on is I have been suffering with a sreious staph infection for the last 4 weeks. Can you please help? — —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andre39 (talkcontribs) 01:51, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, Mr Andre, you do not meet the notability requirements as listed at WP:POLITICIAN. Wikipedia cannot be used as your campaign website. Much of the information that was on that page was certainly not encyclopedic - and you need to keep in mind WP:COI. To fix notability, you actually have to win an important position. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, one more question please? I am not Larry Andre, I used Andre39 because it is not suggested that I use my real name. So, my question is can I do what it states below? "In the case of candidates for political office who do not meet this guideline, the general rule is to redirect to an appropriate page covering the election or political office sought in lieu of deletion. Relevant material from the biographical article can be merged into the election or political office page if appropriate." Can I create a page which pertains to the election? Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andre39 (talkcontribs) 08:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jed Brandt

You CSD' Jed Brandt under A7. If it is anything like Jed brandt, then this is not true: there is a claim made of notability. A7 specifically mentions the standard is NOT notability, but a claim of notability, and hence this is not a good speedy candidate. Rather than go to a Deletion review, I ask that you please restore and submit to AfD for community discussion, rather than speedy, or at least allow the moving of Jed brandt to Jed Brandt. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 15:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the article has been re-created following page-protection as Jed Brandt (activist). It seems heavily promo, but at this point it's hard to tell whether it's been written by his fans or his detractors. Political bios often seem to be like that. :-) Another editor has prodded it. MuffledThud (talk) 19:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I see the prod has turned into AfD. Let the games begin! :P More seriously I agree the multiple recreations are not very smart but AGF tells me to chalk it up to inexperience rather than malice... lets see --Cerejota (talk) 00:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jade Starr article

Sorry to be a pest, I am just rather confused as to what is going on? Is there anything else I need to do? I think I fixed all the references issues and htmling. Thanks! And sorry again if I am posting in the wrong place. Phantomcowboy (talk) 21:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7SeriesBOT approved

You're aware, I hope? Josh Parris 12:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I did add the ID to the config file this morning, and watched it delete a few articles ... it did give one or two code errors this morning, but I thought it looked okay before I left home. I see a few WildBot tagged pages that are waiting, I wonder if the bot crashed? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That'd be right. Gimmie a holler when you can get the stack (and a little beforehand, if possible, so I know what lead up to it). Josh Parris 14:10, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding User:Michael1963

The page was not created by Michael1963, but by Criss245, an account that appears to have stopped making serious contributions. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still, it didn't meet the requirements for a speedy. Someone put a talkpage comment on an otherwise blank userpage (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion query

Hello Bwilkins, You deleted my page about JBA Consulting and if I understand the coding correctly, it was because of lack of notablility. I hope to be able to remedy that but I need to access the article. I have been advised that the thing to do is to ask you to restore it to a subpage of my user page. Then, if I want to submit it again , do I repeat the procedure or come back to you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliceelisabethmay (talkcontribs) 14:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done (further info on your talkpage) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of user talk page after it had been moved into main space

I see you deleted Talk:Ina Ina, with the edit summary "G8: Talk page of deleted page". Ina Ina had been deleted with the summary "G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page". However, Ina Ina had originally been User:Caragea Florina, which was moved to Ina Ina with the edit summary "moved User:Caragea Florina to Ina Ina: confidentiality", and likewise Talk:Ina Ina was originally User talk:Caragea Florina. The consequence of this is that the user has, by moving her user page and user talk page to main space and then requesting deletion, managed to get round WP:UP#DELTALK, which says that user talk pages are normally not deleted "barring legal threats or other grievous violations that have to be removed for legal reasons". I discovered this because I wanted to check back to some edits on her talk page, and am not able to. Unless there is some special reason, I think that the deleted Talk:Ina Ina should be restored to User talk:Caragea Florina, and, since it was you that did the deletion, I should like to ask you to restore it. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ... cheers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks JamesBWatson (talk) 08:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pal Park

Why exactly did you delete Pal Park? Now the history is gone. It could have been redirected. Was the article brought back from a previous revision or started from scratch? Now there is no way to tell. Could you please restore it and redirect it to Pokémon? Thanks Blake (Talk·Edits) 20:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was rightly deleted as "No indication that the article may meet the guidelines for inclusion" under WP:CSD. Someone else recognized it as such, and I agreed. There is no "history" - it was wrongly recreated, and reads as a "how to". There is nothing in it, or in its history worth saving. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I knew it had no notability, but really? There was no history before that? I guess we started cracking down on articles before it was created. Thanks anyways. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The history was basically 3 creations, 3 tagging, and 3 deletions. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:12, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is 7SeriesBOT up?

I suspect not. Josh Parris 10:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Restarted it seconds ago (after downloading the new version, of course) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:22, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tip: while running an old version, you can download the sources for a new version, run it up and then kill the old version. Josh Parris 13:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, would you please block this guy with a IP number 213.240.232.170 from bulgaria

He is constantly vandalizing the data related to Turkish tv series Gümüş by adding a suffix (/166) to the number of original episodes (100)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.110.95.62 (talk) 22:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is so long ago now that I cannot act on it. WP:AIV is the best place if it's truly vandalism. Sounds more to be like a content dispute though. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FIctionist Page Deletion

I was just wondering what it was about the page I made for the Fictionist page that led to it's deletion. I used the news article written about them specifically because it made the page unquestionably fall within the relevance guidelines. Kevinflo (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I stated it on your talkpage before I even deleted it. Have you read WP:MUSIC? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Username problem

Hi again. Per above, the user Fukangsi (talk · contribs) had place his blatant advert on both his own user page (which was tagged CSD by me and deleted by you a while back) and that of WP:MCQ (evidence here → [8]). To me, this smells of WP:SPA. Would this suffice to warrant an indef on him? --Dave ♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 11:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He's already been blocked accordingly ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting admins yelling at me again

I take it 7SeriesBOT fell over; are there logs for me? Josh Parris 14:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh ... it was cool when I left home this morning. Grrr. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's back up now. What was the probem? A code crash, or environmental? Josh Parris 00:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oddly enough, when I got home it appeared to be totally fine ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My guess is loss of internets; do you have sufficient scroll-back that you can see if that happened - messages about things not being available and retrying in howeverlong would pop up? Josh Parris 04:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could I ask you to please restore this to the pre-vandalism version? This was a long-standing, proper soft redirect. It was vandalized, CSD tagged, and deleted all in less than 5 minutes. I do not like the idea that someone vandalizing a valid page can get the page deleted like that. - TexasAndroid (talk) 15:14, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and restored it. Cheers, –xenotalk 19:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No issues...thanks (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:41, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dire Straits tour/Notes

I wish to discuss it with you, experts in removal, but User:Tagishsimon ignores the User talk page. I would not like to wage war of undos. Give we will discuss this question.--Andrey! 15:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)Has written also to the nominator--Andrey! 15:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied and will deal with in one location. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:42, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having trouble figuring out why surf.to is not blacklisted. Seems the type of thing that should automatically be added to the blacklist. Ridernyc (talk) 15:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would think so too ... feel free to submit @ WP:BLACKLIST (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:42, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paolo I.

This page was deleted as per your comment on not finding reference for winning Juno. The Juno was clearly indicated in the bio as being attributed to the unit CAPITAL SOUND which if you research correctly was a unit that Paolo I. performed in as well as participated as a songwriter. He is often credited under aliases. As for the diamond certified, it is based on overall sales in canada. MUCHMUSIC DANCE 95 (Quality Records)is 3x platinum in sales just to name but one that he has been on. You will find it difficult to find info on any artist who is working under different names or in a group. Just to base it on references or calling it promotion is a clear indication that Wikipedia is not there to list credentials but to delete those who have a history in the arts, politics and all other forms. Do a search for Rocko T. Bello as this is one of his aliases and see what pops up in google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueskinge (talkcontribs) 00:11, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...but none of the references confirmed anything claimed. Read WP:MUSIC, and know that I covered the Juno awards many times ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Award_for_Dance_Recording_of_the_Year

http://mixes.eurodancehits.com/classic/capitalsound.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.47.249.251 (talk) 16:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and at what point does that approach being a reliable source? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

obviously putting a wikipedia link as a source does not seem valid to you. how do we rectify this to get the page back up. Can we simplify the bio and just put: Canadian songwriter. The end. Will that suffice? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.147.28 (talk) 01:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're right that Wikipedia cannot be a reference to itself. Really, WP:MUSIC is clear. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I use WP:MUSIC as the source and the musician is supposed to have 1 of the criterias, this artist has many. Juno for dance recording of the year with the ensemble Capital Sound is but one of those criterias. There is also having a song on a national chart, there are atleast 3 with Capital Sound alone. The link that was included other than the wikipedia source is not related to the artist at all, it's a site dealing with eurohits. WP:MUSIC definitely has this artist fitting the guidelines. so I am confused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.172.0.195 (talk) 20:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:dvfoxztgldfe and http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:hbfqxzy5ldke and/or http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:wxfyxqwkld6e~T3 how's it coming along now?

Pls remove cats

When u userfy, it'd save time if u could pls remove {{New unreviewed article}} (eg User:Aliceelisabethmay/JBA Consulting), to save duplication of efforts; thx  Chzz  ►  00:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh, I usually do ... my bad, sorry. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for speedy deletion

thank you for the deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.121.104 (talk) 11:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I "Quick Closures"

Hello, Bwilkins! I really think this should immediately be closed on this board. It's resolved, and its speedy closure might help demonstrate/alleviate the problem of unresolved conflicts being needlessly archived without decision. Easy one here, I think. I'll close it if non-admins are allowed to... pretty please with sugar on top? Cheers :> Doc9871 (talk) 11:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Closing" isn't vital there...but it was done before I got there. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My bad - "resolved". Same difference, right? ;> Doc9871 (talk) 14:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not really the same. Neither marking {{Resolved}} nor closing the discussion with {{discussion-top}} and {{discussion-bottom}} are required - nice, but not required. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know that (no wonder the archives looked so "messy" :>). I figured it was standard to close or resolve them in order to expeditiously separate them from open discussions (and I contacted you because you were watching the thread). Thanks for clearing that up for me, BWilkins! Cheers :> Doc9871 (talk) 14:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you do decide to "close them", make sure that a) the Resolved tag is directly below the title b)The discussion-top tage must come below that, or else archiving gets messed up, and c) the discussion-bottom tag, of course, goes at the bottom of the thread. Of course, typically don't mark one resolved that you opened or were the subject of (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copy/paste user page

I thought this may be of interest you, I saw you deleted the Ben Torres page and this one might be a copy/paste type deal. I don't remember what the original looked like though. Jeffrey Mall (talkcontribs) - 14:26, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's close ... but still spam! Thanks. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nivelu' 4

Hey there. I would like to know what was wrong with the article about Nivelu' 4, so that I can improve it and then add it again. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Duracellbv (talkcontribs) 20:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied on your talk...and AfD'd this article so that the community has additional comment. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.

Hi, I'm Layzap, you know the one who created 'Random Club'? Can u help me delete it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Layzap (talkcontribs) 05:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's already done. CSD is how you delete things quickly. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Calcott (car)

You declined this speedy deletion request noting that no source of the copyvio had been provided, yet the website address was provided which shows the same text as the Wikipedia article but as having it 8 months prior to Wikipedia. If the edit summary is not the place to note the address then where. Thanks. Weakopedia (talk) 11:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the supposed copyright source was empty - that's why I declined it. That CSD template has a location for the website. I will go back and double-check the edit summary instead (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if I didn't use the correct summary section. It was my first time using the template, although that should have encouraged me to take extra care reading the instructions. If I need to reapply let me know. Cheers. Weakopedia (talk) 11:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The other important part of that (or any other CSD template) is "can it be saved". You'll note I have trimmed down the article to stub size - it appears to be notable to a degree. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:25, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In that I tried to consider whether notability was likely to be established and I wasn't confident. I'll have a go though, and thank you for your assistance. Weakopedia (talk) 11:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Talk Page Deletion

I dislike what is happening here. I started an article with a link to a disambiguation page and the bot quite correctly started a talk page with a note that the problem should be fixed. I fixed the problem and the bot deleted the talk page. When I go to add a template to the talk page, I get a rather forbidding warning like:

A page with this title has previously been deleted.

If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the deleting administrator using the information provided below

  • 21:49, 7 March 2010 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Atyap" ‎ (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)

To a new editor, this would be disconcerting. I think it would be better to leave the page and put in something more positive, like:

An automated tool found links in this article to one or more disambiguation pages. The problem has now been fixed.


^^^That warning never stopped me, and I'm still editing wikipedia! (Bwilkins, I would like you to respond on my talk page to the comment I posted here under the title "Sorry") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mod mmg (talkcontribs) 06:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Something like that. I know there is a guideline against creating blank talk pages, but once created it seems best not to delete it. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WildBot's FAQ seems to say it best: see here (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I'm reading WildBot's FAQ wrongly, it says nothing at all about deleting talk pages. It seems to say it uses a banner and updates the content of the banner, and thus the history of the changes are not on the page, since each update supersedes the previous one.
The issue raised by Aymatth2 is about deletion of the talk page, and whereas you're right that you can as the author request its deletion, you do seem to be causing unnecessary alarm, confusion and dismay; and none of those are good things. I'd be very grateful if you would reconsider your decision, with a view to leaving the talk page up. If any humans are sufficiently concerned about the tidyness of the page, they can archive the banner. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You might have missed this update; other posts were appended at the foot after the above post. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have replied on your talkpage. The link to the tasks from User:7SeriesBOT discusses the thought process that was taken - indeed, there was debate. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MobileRead wiki

I have a dilemma. You deleted this page because it promoted a site and I had another post from Realkyhick 20:41, 6 March 2010 (UTC) that wanted to delete it because the description didn't show the site as noteable. I don't know how to make it notable without seeming to promote it. There seems to be two Judges and I can't seem to please them both. I would like the page reinstated but you can delete anything you think is promoting the site. I won't change it. I added it because it is required to add the site for the list of wikis page and I believe it belongs in that list. It is unique and I modeled it after other sites listed in that list. Please let me know how this can be resolved.--DaleDe (talk) 18:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was not notable - and it read as an advertisement so ot qualified for deletion under 2 sections. Most sites, blogs, wiki's do not meet notability requirements for inclusion. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About a deleted page

Hi, This is Nick Stevenson, and i'm writing to ask about a page of mine which got deleted. The page was about VirtualBarter, and i added it just yesterday (8th march '10). The article was yet to be complete, i was in the process of collecting more info about the Company history , services offered, etc. This was not meant to be a promotional article, i merely described what VirtualBarter does. Kindly let the article be finished. You may very well remove it if the article still has a promotional content.

Thank you...

Nick.Stevenson 05:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nick.stevenson (talkcontribs)

Gourmandises

Why did you delete Gourmandises (album)? It is correct name for the article about the debut album by Alizée. See for example Seul (album) (the debut album by Garou) and Seul (song). James Michael 1 (talk) 07:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See the answer above about notability - most specifically, WP:MUSIC. Even if a band is notable, their albums generally are not, unless they have charted at certain levels, etc. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. I've gone ahead and prodded the article. Thanks for the note. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 16:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you, it is a rather good article. I just couldn't find anything on the guy. Does appear to be a new edit, though, so it's just as well I pulled it out of patrol. =) It'll do fine. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 16:55, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Deleted Article "Pokertrainingnetwork"

Hello Bwilkins,


I just sent you an email about the above referenced deleted article. I look forward to hearing from you regarding the revision and if it is now appropriate for Wikipedia. Thank you.



Trane57 (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ok if i quote some newspapers information about her then is it ok ? i will update it gradually well want your support also.== Bwilkins i dont think that you have done right to delete this page ==

friend bwilkins i dont agree with your work as you dlete the file see other admin if they wrongly delete the page then they restore alos after knowing fact As i know wikipedia is not for a particular group or country as as it is global it must contains information of different people and different fields as Dr. Veena Pandey is one of the popular personalities in Asian Countries she is a notable politicien also she is a popular asian literature writer she got various prestigious prizes also she is Member of Parliament she is National President of women wings in Bahrtiya Janta Party from which Mr. Atal Bhiari Vajpayee is Prime Minister of India who dont need any identification as he is one of the popular and best leader in world . she got prize of excellence from popular Hindi Literature poet Mahadevi Verma for which there is information in your site also Dr. Veena Pandey is also Member of Legislative Council and take part in various Political movement and other prominent issues due to which she is in top 100 womens in asian country in which there is Sonia Gandhi presently chairperson of congress , Kalpana chawla of NASA smriti irani actress etc.Dr. veena Pandey dont need any introduction as you know in Asia country there is no such Awareness about internet so there is not much information about popular personalities of asian countries for which we are adding information in you site we think you also help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.96.41.33 (talk) 18:35, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. No such Awareness about internet in "Asia country". Gotcha there I'm afraid, Bwilkins... Doc9871 (talk) 23:32, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have gone through the results from 1991 to 2004 for Uttar Pradesh using this series of charts and have been unable to find any instance where she won - she clearly lost in 2004, but does not appear otherwise. She may have been a candidate, but this does not make her notable - being a member of the legislature might not have created notability in all cases either. On top of that, there were zero third party reliabel sources being used, and as a biography of living persons that was a necessity. I would welcome anyone to write any article on notable people. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
well thanks for for your findings but i think you have not clearly read what i have written that there is no such important information about her as she is member of lagislative council which is equivalent to Governer in your region well i dont know why you not make your thinking broad as she has never fight election in up election beacuse no she is having Cabinet minister rank and why you not think if a person having higher rank why she should fight election for a lower grade post if you have found some result then it is wrong beacuse if your name is bwinkins there must be some other bwinkins also might be from your street also where you live. make your think broad and do not useless delete page admin should help people to add new information not to dlete uselessly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.56.207 (talkcontribs)


i dont know why you have deleted page of Veena Pandey as she is very popular social Worker, Writer national Prize holder by some of eminent persoonalities like Maha Devi Verma about which ther is biography in wikipedia she has also worked with Atal Bihari Vajpayee Former Prime Minister of India about him also there is information in your wikipedia page She is also Member of Legislative Council Member she is Currently Among Top 100 Popular Ladies in Asian Countries ,Friend as you know in asian cpountries there is no awareness of internet in asian countries so there should be some information about these famous person who are popular in real physical life but there should be information here also you have to help as wikipedia's one use is also to give information about all countries important thing if you want to have any suggestion or help you can give as we are do not know how to correctly present her just remove bar over article of Veena Pandey as it needs to be publish to public as here many persons from different countries many time ask that there is little knowlege about her so it have to be in internet.

thanks for help . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.56.207 (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Without clear third party, reliable references to any of this information, an article about a living person cannot remain on Wikipedia. It's all well and good to say per A did X and Y and Z, but to properly source it is completely different. Write an article that includes sources which will support claims of notability, and it can stay on Wikipedia - the one that was here could not. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is, as the Google translation of the article says, the principle percussionist of the Munich philharmonic. You seem to have deleted it as A7. Please restore. I know I could do it myself, but I always ask first. (yes, I know enough German to fix up the Google translation a little) (btw, if Panday , above, is a member of a legilature, that p. too needs to be restored--I notice the article says on its face that she's a member of the Uttar Pradash Assembly) . Additionally, you deleted InkMedia as A7, but its a computer, not a company.--merely noticed it since I was here--that one probably needs afd. My friend and colleague, perhaps you are going a little too fast. DGG ( talk ) 23:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to have been done ... my little bit of German seems to have missed the assertion ... I'll check Panday, and InkMedia again (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Panday appears to have never won - which matches my quick search yesterday (see link I searched today in the section above). InkMedia was a company from BC Canada who built 2 computers: the Olea and the Ilex with Ubuntu and Open Office. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:07, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Basshunter Music Video Storyline

This article was deleted WITHOUT proper cause. The proposed deletion tag was removed from the article after significant changes had been made in an effort to ensure that the article was credible. This was all in line with the instructions set forth BY the proposed deletion tag. I appreciate your concern, and I will now simply have to create another article of the same caliber. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Typat (talkcontribs) 05:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALSO, you noted that the pages for each song already listed the music video summaries. BUT AS I ALREADY NOTED on the discussion page for the article, not ALL of the videos had summaries and many of the existing summaries hardly skimmed the surface. This article created an IN DEPTH view of each of these videos. You should be more careful before you delete an article.

Typat (talk)

Music video storylines are not notable in an encyclopedia ... unless it's a music-specific encyclopedia. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:41, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then you better go through each of these( 1 2 3) along with numerous other pages about songs and delete the part about the music video. Your reasoning is flawed. Countless pages ALREADY have information regarding the music video of the song. WHy would this be any different? Typat (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:EVERYTHING Typat (talk)

That's funny ... using an article that says to not make the argument that you're trying to make. I'll take that to mean that Wikipdia wins this time. Try and use your editing energy on articles that make sense for an encyclopedia, and I'm sure you will make some awesome articles. Cheers. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What about WP:ALLORNOTHING? --Typat (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Same essay as above. What about WP:COMMONSENSE. Are there individual articles on the storylines of say ... U2 videos? Phil Collins? What bout Metallica? If these large, international acts don't have them, then why should some singer who's barely notable to begin with have an article specifically on video storylines? Common sense. As I said, if you put this kind of effort into a real article, I'm sure it would come out well. Let me know how it turns out. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot down

- any logs for me? Josh Parris 07:02, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would be called "Windows Update has automatically updated your computer" ...*grumble Windows grumble* (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can turn those off; or (somehow) make the program auto-start, like a service. Maybe with a batch file?
BTW, 1) in the FAQ is a terrible terrible lie. Josh Parris 12:32, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changed #1 ... and I'm going to try and create a service to restart it automagically. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:35, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quantitative Finance

You recently deleted the quantitative finance page, apparently because it was gratuitous advertising,

I am minded to have a go at reinstating it, since this is an area that I have an interest in, and given the vast number of references to the subject here, and in general, it ought really to be covered.

Any problems with that ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DominicConnor (talkcontribs) 14:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DominicConnor (talk) 14:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article as it was specifically related to a program of study at a university/college in Quantitative finance, and had nothing at all to do with what it is - as such, it was pure advertising. The article long ago used to redirect to Mathematical finance or something along those lines (there were some double redirects fixed at one point). So, have a look to see if the topic already exists - or is better off inside an existing article. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:30, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Omen (American band)

Why was the Omen (American band) page deleted? Hagfish13 (talk) 22:27, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bwilkins, just letting you know that this has been taken care of at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#omen (American band). Cheers, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 10:17, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem - cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:52, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Curious

Hi! I'm curious as to why my talk page was deleted. I'm also curious as to how to edit the page to best fit within specifications of the site. I believe it belongs there as it is similar to other pages that are already up in nature ie other similar artists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dubsintubs (talkcontribs) 03:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about Freedom Danish, the article was deleted as not meeting notability guidelines, especially those under WP:MUSIC. The talkpage of the article was deleted twice yesterday: once by an automated process because it was blanked, and second by someone else because the article was recreated for the second time. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:56, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GTA-NeXt Network

If you want to be an asshole and delete MY Wikipedia page that is about a website, then wht don't you delete Myspace, facebook, Gamespot, IGN, twitter, and any other website related afrticle? I swear it's a double-edged sword and that you choose to delete pages that you feel like. Get off your high-horse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joker264 (talkcontribs)

Very nice. I'm always open for polite discussion about deletions. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

This was nice, esp. after that article was deleted a third time. Drmies (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You mean I'm not an "asshole" and "on my high horse" (see above)?  ;-) I still have it set that when I welcome a user, I watchlist them as well ... I saw your post on the page, looked up their question, and figured a nice, gentle note was the right idea. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, no, you're a total asshole, of course! Hehe, yeah, I figured you'd have a watchlist that you actually follow up on. Incidentally, by following the model's trail I came across a rather obscure page, Help:Edit summary/feedback, which made for moderately interesting reading. Take care! Drmies (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And now I understand why you won't give User:Anusbrains a break! It's jealousy! Drmies (talk) 21:42, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL ... yeah, that's the ticket! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you deleting this; it was on my watchlist as I had also previously deleted. It's great to see you wield the mop; how are you liking being an admin? --John (talk) 02:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly even more like being a janitor than people suggest...and yeah, you really need to be able to handle being called an "asshole" for performing even the clearest of deletions. So far, so good though - I think. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I noticed. Let me know if I can ever be any other help to you. --John (talk) 18:47, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Am I losing the plot.

  1. (Deletion log); 15:33 . . 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Wilton Mill, Radcliffe" (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)
  2. (Deletion log); 15:30 . . 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Pilot Mill, Bury" (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)

and others.

I have written about fifty similar articles and added nothing to the talk page. As far as I know they were empty- the bot is welcome to delete anything I haven't yet written but is this a false positive- or a further sign of mental degeneration?--ClemRutter (talk) 16:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have you read the FAQ? Q. How did a blank page happen? Nobody edited it! Well, it's possible a BOT did (especially User:WildBot that checks for disambiguation and other issues)
From the logs for Wilton Mill, Radcliffe:
  • (diff) 10:33, 13 March 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes) (No ambiguous links left; rather than leave the talk page blank, as only contributor WildBot is requesting deletion)
  • (diff) 20:01, 1 February 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (32 bytes) (Found ambiguous links to Radcliffe)
(talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harvey Taylor (deleted)

Well that was a pretty severe introduction to the wikipedia patrol team!

As a new user and first time poster Ii would have thought that you would want to engange with me and help me with creating a page, rather than instnatly treating me as a spammer who is wasting your time. I did try to put a "hang on" in the article and enge with the admins on the artlices talk page.

I hope I can retry the post for Harvey Taylor and that it is not locked out now? I do intend to start again and realise now that reserving the namespace is maybe not the way that I should be doing things, and the help text asks for offline pages to be created with editors helping the poster to prepare for going live.

I trust you would be able to help me with my article?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by HubertJFarnsworth (talkcontribs)

I'd love to help ... but I do not see anything remotely salvageable. Indeed, I go back to the original creation and it appears to be either autobiographical (contrary to WP:COI), or copied/pasted from some copyrighted source (a major violation). A quick Google search, and nothing jumps out at making this guy meet our notability standards. By the time a few other editors had actually cleared out the improper/illegal stuff, all I had to work with was "Harvey Taylor: Management Training, NLP, Coaching Specialist, Public Speaker, Writer and Hypnotherapist", which clearly could not remain. On top of that, it's a biography of a living person which means without valid 3rd party references, it's immediate removal. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have, however, created a "sandbox" for you to start in your personal userspace. As long as what you write there does not appear promotional, most admins will leave it alone until you ask them to help. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for the sandbox creation and I hope you will be available to review the piece when I get it shipshape. With regard to the notability of Mr Taylor, he is standing for Bournemouth West MP in the 2010 General Election, and like other candidates wanted a wikipedia entry. Added to this he is a local businessman who is popular in the community. As i previously stated, the article that i pasted in was nieve place holder and didn't realise it would trigger the automated warnings, and subsequent deletion, my bad! My removal of the offending pasting seemed to only upset further, and it was weirdly (to me) restored before my subsequent beration began. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HubertJFarnsworth (talkcontribs)

A mere candidate will almost never meet WP:POLITICIAN ... Wikipedia cannot be used to promote a political campaign. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:10, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jed Brandt

Please move-unprotect Jed Brandt so that Jed Brandt (activist) can be moved there. There is no need to disambiguate in this case as per MoS. Jed Brandt (activist)was recently kept after an AfD. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 20:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done It's unprotected. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weird issue with your bot

I recently just created Bridge of Flowers (bridge). I went to go add projects and I was met with this: "15:58, March 13, 2010 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Bridge of Flowers (bridge)" ‎ (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7)" This is fine, but not only did I never even create the page, much less ask for its deletion, but your bot doesn't seem to have even edited in ten days. I'm going to let the page be for now and I will create it once you can figure out what is wrong here. Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need to read the FAQ on the userpage. Another bot (WildBot) had tagged the talkpage with some disambig issues, once they were fixed, WildBot requested that the talkpage be deleted. 7Series then did as it was asked. You will not likely see many live edits for 7Series - almost all it does is delete things, and those are found in the logs (also available on the Bot's userpage). Feel free to edit the talkpage - as the FAQ says! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. What's worse is that I forgot about the whole cool disambigation link bot thing. Sorry about that. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No prob - cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7seriesbot

I just had my first experience with this bot. It's very helpful.. thanks for running it! ThemFromSpace 02:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for saying so! Cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why you deleted this page. I would like it restored asap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.180.219.155 (talk) 17:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It was correctly tagged as a copyright violation of both http://americas.irc-online.org/am/4577 and http://ciponline.org/biographies.htm ... we do not allow articles with this kind of copyright violations to exist on Wikipedia, see WP:COPYRIGHT. Also, as a living person, there's extra strictness about references from third party, reliable sources. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I work for Laura Carlsen. there is no copyright violation here. We manage the SAmericas Program and are members of CIP. I am Michael Collins and my name is on both those bios too. I helped draft Laura's bio.
Please reload her page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.216.57.2 (talk) 03:45, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then what we have is a massive violation of conflict of interest. If you're claiming you own copyright, WP:OTRS can be contacted, but if you are affiliated with the subject, you may not have a major contribution to an article. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RE: blocked IP

Thanks for looking into this so quickly. You seem to be correct about there being no block on this IP as it appears that I am now able to edit again. All the best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.96.78 (talk) 18:34, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bot down!

Oh noes! Stack dump for me? Should we look at getting a watchdog? Josh Parris 11:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this would be pretty easy to build; it would run just the same as 7SeriesBot, make the same decisions, and check to see if they'd been acted on 60s later. If not, send one email to each of the nominated addresses; repeat every... three... hours that this state persists for... two days. Actually, if it was just the same, it could blow up too. So a second design says "7SeriesBot should delete something every four hours. If not, then it's time to email people." Josh Parris 11:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He seemed to have a token error. Maybe I should set him to run for only a certain number of hours, quit, then restart. He's been running straight for a few days with no problems! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you have any available information, I can follow up. There shouldn't be any reason it can't run continuously; a few days really isn't all that good - WildBot will run for a week, and it's about 15/20 times more code (and thus places to break). Josh Parris 21:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Aldous Deletion

How come you deleted my Peter Aldous PPC for Waveney article an yet Great Yarmouth's Brandon Lewis article is quite alright to stay even though he is a PPC. Can i re write it in accordance with wiki please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.180.63.53 (talk) 20:58, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although I cleaned Lewis up a bit, I have PROD'd it for deletion for the same reasoning. Thanks for pointing it out. Neither article had reliable, 3rd party WP:RS sources to backup any of the information. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it my imagination, or is 7SeriesBot down?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Strathmore_Automobile_Company&action=history has been up for deletion for 23 minutes, so I think bot-down. Josh Parris 04:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Same "invalid token u' ..." message. Odd. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The one mentioned in User_talk:Josh_Parris/archive5#Latest_hiccup? You're right, that is really weird. We definitely need a watchdog, because I can't explain that *at all*. There are two levels of "that can't happen" in there. Josh Parris 11:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a way to code the bot to re-grab the token every so often, just for the heck of it? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll look into that. It will take a couple of days, tomorrow's my wikibreak day. Josh Parris 11:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I appreciate the extra work! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Enforced break

Well if standing up for myself against a censor will earn me an enforced break then so be it. I'm quite happy to have my contributions edited and rule breaking bits deleted or even sections deleted if they are not sourced but what John is doing is beyond that. We have an edit war over sourced material. I'm a newcomer here and I don't know all of wikipedia's rules yet but I know that sweeping deletions of the good with the bad are an abuse of power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shieldsgeordie (talkcontribs) 21:22, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Ogone

I really do not understand why Ogone was deleted.


You need to know that Ogone is one of Europe's most succesfull payment service provider with more then 22.000 clients (over 35 airlines !) active in 35 countries around the globe. More then 50.000.000 transactions processed in 2009 resulted in having the Ogone payment page (in the merchants look & feel, but displaying the Ogone logo) as a trustfull environment for online shoppers ! Explain me then why http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adyen is live ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bever69 (talkcontribs) 13:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RS, WP:N, WP:CORP, and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS ? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interaction Ban

I think your suggestion of an interaction ban between myself and SRQ is an excellent idea. May I kindly ask how one implements/requests that ban? Thank you.DocOfSoc (talk) 06:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GoRight

This appears to be disruptive and pointy behavior - I note that User_talk:GoRight#Unblocking_conditions specifically warned against this sort of behavior. Ncmvocalist (talk) 10:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - have noted it on their talkpage. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you liked that, you'll love this, this and this. -- samj inout 16:15, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What business is this of yours? Please MYOB. --GoRight (talk) 19:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You jumped in and attempted to derail three debates I was involved in today by attacking the people who filed them (along with those who questioned you for doing so) which is undoubtedly "disruptive and pointy behavior". If you weren't so abrasive when others try to give you good advice then you would no doubt find yourself getting a lot less unwanted attention, but you are, so your fellow editors are drawing your unblocking admin's attention to edits which we believe contravene your conditional unblock. -- samj inout 23:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize, I seem to have been unclear and somehow confused you. Please let me rephrase my question. Why were you posting comments at any of those discussions in the first place? You do not seem to be an involved (i.e. originating) party. Please MYOB. Further, I did not attempt to derail anything. I on the matter being discussed, as did you, which is in no way violating my agreed editing restrictions. --GoRight (talk) 02:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's the second time you have called me "confused" in the space of a few hours, and both times I found it rather uncivilised (which is a violation of your agreed editing restrictions). In any case I am free to comment on what I like and don't appreciate being told to "MYOB" by an editor who is very close to being subject to a last resort MYOB restriction of his own. On the subject of you "merely express[ing your] opinion in a succinct manner", is there any reason why you completely ignored an arbitrator's request for you to remove or strike "most" of your >500 word pointy, off-topic diatribe? This seems to follow a pattern of disruptive editing today. -- samj inout 05:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"... is there any reason why you completely ignored an arbitrator's request for you to remove or strike "most" of your >500 word pointy, off-topic diatribe?" - I'm sorry, but you seem to be under a mistaken impression about whom the arbitrator was addressing. They were making a request of a clerk, not me, and if the clerk in question makes a request of me I shall take appropriate action as I am sure others there will as well. You seem to also be mistaken about the timestamps involved. I had not ignored anything. I was not aware of that comment from the arbitrator until I read your reference here. If a clerk feels my comment is off topic I am quite confident that they will inform me of that fact or take action on their own. Thank you. Hope this clears things up. Have a nice day. --GoRight (talk) 06:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC) Stricken because I have now refactored my comment per Carcharoth's request.[reply]

Per [9], I have stricken and collapsed my comment at WP:AN (see [10] and [11]). I trust that this will satisfy your concerns with that edit.

I do, however, stand by my assessment that the way to address the current disruption on WP:AN as represented by that entire thread is to:

(a) Issue MYOB sanctions for Ncmvocalist who has a long history injecting themselves into other people's disputes. That thread is just another example of that. Since injecting oneself into other's disputes seems to be an area of concern of late, might we not ask what concern it is of Ncmvocalist what Abd does, or does not do, and why are they suggesting sanctions against him? He has played no role in the entire affair until now.
And, (b) restrict Enric from pursuing his personal vendetta against Abd. If you doubt a vendetta exists I can dig up lots of diffs over a long period of time to convince you. YMMV but my speaking my piece does not contradict my unblocking sanctions or agreement.

If you still have concerns please let me know so that I can address them to your satisfaction. Thanks. --GoRight (talk) 19:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

your decline block of mbz1

I fully support Mbz1 and believe she is being unfairly treated here at wiki. I thought your reasoning was particularly inappropriate, especially this :"you jammed the page full of images to either show how much we'll miss you, or how important you must be." I found that uniquely inappropriate. Someone has contributed her work freely to wiki and that's the thanks she gets? An administrator who belittles her and makes inappropriate comments about her motivations? You claim her activities on her talkpage were disruptive because she removed block requests but she was unaware that such removal was against policy. You claimed she soaped but did not bother to offer any examples. Finally you are suggesting that she has to apologize though you don't say to who or what for. I am thoroughly shocked but all I can say is that I think your behavior here was unbecoming to an administrator. If you had taken some time you might have seen that she was being hounded but instead of being sympathetic to that you chose to jump on as well. Stellarkid (talk) 16:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, fantastic - point out my apparent incivility with a whack of your own, without even a chance to reply. Have a great day! I think the editor has their own ability to re-request review from another admin, and honestly this didn't help her case. I am always more willing to discuss my reasoning directly with the editor without 3rd party attacks, thanks. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy notice

I decided to take your comments on the decline notice (see section immediately above) to Wiki Etiquette alerts for the opinion of the community. You will find it here. Stellarkid (talk) 19:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Given that
  • part of the unblock comment seems (uncharacteristically) incivil
  • your status above indicates you will be away and unable to discuss for some time period, I've edited the remark. Obviously you can restore and we can discuss further when you get back. Gerardw (talk) 22:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just to let you know, the WQA was closed and archived recently. Discussions may continue on talk pages as appropriate however. Happy editing to you, --Taelus (talk) 18:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Bwilkins, When you are back, and when you have a time, may I please ask you to take a look at my response to your decline reason here? I am not going to rise any concerns that were discussed above, and with which I fully agree. The only thing I would like to ask you is to explain to me please what edits of mine at my own talk page you considered to be wp:soap. I would like to learn what I have done wrong, if anything of course, in order do not repeat the same mistakes in the feature. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Commented back on your talk, Mbz1. Keep up the good work. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

email

Sorry for the duplicate. Prodego talk 06:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No issues - better double notification than no notification (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7SeriesBOT

...seems to be down. I was wondering why I was spending so much time deleting talk pages for WildBot, and thinking there should be a better way; I have only just realised that there is. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Funny, it seemed to stay up well for the time I was away...odd that it craps out after I return! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if it would make sense having this bot cloned? What OS does it run on? Have you (or the writer-is it someone else?) considered extending it to U1 deletion requests (where user is only author and page was never moved?) –xenotalk 15:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's Pywiki ... think it's time to add U1 to the BFRA as a new task? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I floated the idea here: Wikipedia:VPR#Ability to delete one's own user pages. –xenotalk 15:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have added it as a suggested new task on the BRFA page. Thanks for the suggestion. Overall, it's working well - with only a handful of start/stop glitches. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

[12]. --GoRight (talk) 02:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I feel that a greater community discussion is warranted concerning GoRight's editing behavior. I have started a discussion here.[13] As a possible interested party, your input would be appreciated. Thanks. Trusilver 01:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As I was neutral from the start, I think I'll keep myself that way ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Someone is starting a thread on ANI on Joker264 (talk · contribs) (picked this up here, SuperHappyPerson (talk · contribs) and Lời chào và lời chào (talk · contribs), it looks to me as though all 3 may be socks, clearly none are new editors. Dougweller (talk) 21:48, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, thanks for the heads up ... I'll monitor as well. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You suck

You suck at everything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AceOfClovers2 (talkcontribs) 17:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How kind. Sorry for having declined your unblock from your first account, but based on the contributions from this sock, it appears to have been the correct choice. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The number of snide retorts has forced me to post something. I'll not use any of them but I can't stop laughing inside. Padillah (talk) 15:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yikes, I'm not trying to be snide :-0 (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:16, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I meant the number of retorts that I could think of. All delivered with a snide, holier-than-thou attitude of someone that is seriously jerking your chain. :) Sory for the confusion. FWIW, this talk page is the funniest thing I've read in quite some time. Padillah (talk) 15:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

what is your criteria for some desperate 'speedy' deletion of my bio- none of which you can disprove?

and meanwhile you want people to be polite to you when you've failed to determine by even asking the party about their bio? any petty tyrannies in which you engage will follow you. The patholigical retaliation that you exhibited against my bio is very NSA or some other peasant/brown shirt/jack boot maniacal sort that feels like they've got to be mayberry police where they haven't got a right. At this point anything now to which you put your hands will follow with problems for yourself. You have no right for a petty, rail-roading act given the element of public domain that wiki alleges to serve, nor against myself, a candidate in a federal public presidential campaign.

And given the amount of harassment I endure, nothing would surprise me in that your way demonstrates some again, sort of desperate fear rooted and violent conduct against written word against which you have no proof, then the same sort of policing only worse will go after you and that to which you put your hands. Feel "threatened"? I didnt retaliate against you or your 'blogs', or even hunt down your little policings and delete what's in the public domain. So where's your little badge that gives you some ruminated fancy for tyrannies on public turf against which you have nothing to refute.


Andrea Psoras —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.237.200.196 (talk) 03:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as I always say, I'm always willing to undelete based on an intelligent discussion on something I might have missed. Maybe the notability was hidden, or the 3rd party reliable sources were better than my research. Maybe I misinterpreted WP:AUTOBIO, or even the the biography of living persons policy. Of course, you would actually have to tell me which article you're talking about. Unfortunately I delete so many "Mary is smelly" articles each day, that I just cannot memorize all of the others. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:42, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for feedback

Hello, i have written a draft article on proactive policing which is here. Any feedback on my talk page would be very much appreciated. Thank you YouAndMeBabyAintNothingButCamels (talk) 05:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New messages at WP:BRFA

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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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7SeriesBOT

Hi,
a page I just restored was immediately re-deleted by 7SeriesBOT since, strictly speaking, all criteria it's been trimmed to look for were still true. It's of course a bit stupid that I have to race to remove the speedy tag before the bot starts a new round of deletions.
Could you teach the bot to also check the page's deletion log and see whether the page was undeleted since the latest revision to the page? The more trivial solution would be to just delay deletions for a short while, but that wouldn't be as convenient since then admins are more likely to pick the pages up in CAT:CSD.
Cheers, Amalthea 16:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just restore the version of the page just prior to the original application of the CSD tag? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, yes, that'll work. :) I tend to prefer restoring all revisions rather than leaving some revisions undeleted due to complications with subsequent page moves or (un)deletions, but in the narrow field 7SeriesBOT currently deletes that should hardly ever be a problem.
Well, nonetheless, I think that lots of other people will by default undelete all revisions and manually remove the deletion template afterwards. If you're ever in the mood you can think about making it smarter, should be extremely easy to do so. Or, seeing that you didn't code it yourself, if you provide me with the source code I'm sure I could make the modification for you.
Cheers, Amalthea 13:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to get in the middle of the conversation, but maybe the bot could remove the CSD tag in such cases. Btw, we can discuss this in Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/7SeriesBOT_2#7SeriesBOT_2. --JokerXtreme (talk) 23:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Fairhurst article.

Hi,

I recently submitted an article on the professional Footballer Nathan Fairhurst, which was referenced and was all my own work. Just wondered why it has been deleted, and how I can get it back up live.

Thanks

Rob Clarke (Wrexham lager) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrexham lager (talkcontribs) 12:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talkpage in this specific case. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fairhurst article.

I am no relation, just a fan of Wrexham Football Club - who ARE a fully professional football club in the 5th tier of the English Football pyramid (check their Wiki page or official website and this will confirm this!)

Fairhurst is a professional footballer therefore I feel this article deserves to be included on here. If it isnt it then it makes a mockery of the whole football archive of this site.

Rob Clarke

username - Wrexham Lager —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrexham lager (talkcontribs) 12:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry to jump in. The club is professional, but the league they play in is not fully-professional as per the criteria at WP:ATHLETE. This is due to there being a number of part-time team in the Conference National league. Cheers, --Jimbo[online] 12:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Singhaniya

I noticed you deleted an article with this name, however strange thing are appearing in the things you can do section here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superp (talkcontribs) 14:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Attempted a fix for above problem. Superp (talk) 15:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey!

How can i find out what can be included and what can't be included on here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letgoreject12 (talkcontribs) 15:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I replied with a nice bunch of links on your talkpage (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indefinite IP blocks

Can I ask why you have blocked this IP indefinitely? It's generally a bad idea to block IPs indefinitely. Perhaps a "shorter" block such as six months would be more appropriate? --Deskana (talk) 11:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Normally, I concur. If you check the talkpage, you'll see that they originally were blocked for 3 months for vandalism. I increased it due to a threat of physical violence against a user, and a directed religious attack (the links are available on their talkpage). This school-based editor therefore has some serious 'splainin' to do - I consider death threats and religious attacks to be on the serious end of things. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree completely, a long block is needed. But still, there's a reason that indefinite blocks of IPs are bad, especially since the IP is shared. Perhaps a year block then? Maybe the person will be gone from the school in a year, or would have moved on. A year is a long time but it's not as long as forever. :-) --Deskana (talk) 11:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I figured if they psychologically saw "Indefinite", they would be more willing to re-think the seriousness of their actions. "1 year" was not going to have the same emotional effect. Consider this: a teacher from the same school tries to edit anonymously: they see that the account was blocked indef for threats, and have a short glance at the talkpage - someone's going to ask questions. I was planning to monitor, and reconsider after seeing the response/action in the short term ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Loqqad

Hi -

I see that you speedied the Loqqad page even though it was marked {{hangon}}. I spoke with the page creator in IRC yesterday and he was looking for citations for notability. I agree that the page was unlikely to meet notability criteria and probably would have been deleted anyway, but the page author was trying in good faith to satisfy the notability criteria, and I think it's unfortunate to have speedied the page before giving him enough time to see it through. Please consider giving {{hangon}} pages a little more leeway in the future. Thanks. Tim Pierce (talk) 13:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree - and I read carefully the editor's attempts to source. I even tried to research myself with no success. I'm always happy to userfy if politely requested, but I also saw little there that could not be recreated in their own sandbox. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Article : Nathaniel Adam Briggs

There seems to be have been no procedural review of the article, Nathaniel Adam Briggs, and instead an opinion used to define the exclusion of a notable human. I respectfully request that the article be recovered/republished for a wider consideration of the editing community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 15:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, by "procedural review", one person three people did read it, research it, and find it non-notable and tag it as such. I then read, checked references, and agreed - which led to its deletion. I am always happy to let it go through an WP:AFD, but you might not like the results. Are you sure? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I would prefer this be reviewed a bit more. I kept the article brief as I am new to Wikipedia. If it would be ideal to post a complete article, meaning with a great deal more "notability" / content relative to such, then I can do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 18:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As long as you have read WP:N ... be prepared for the onslaught :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
are you gaining joy from this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 15:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
the Wiki contribution experience should be far more inviting for people. I welcome the discussion, and "onslaught". Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DesignerHuman (talkcontribs) 15:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to post here politely, so remember that. I advised you that the individual was not notable as per Wikipedia standards. Even still, you asked for a more complete deletion review - so I did what you asked. Everyone does have something to add to Wikipedia, but I fear that you will find that much of the community has less patience than I do in many ways. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A test of your infinite knowledge

What is our stand on refactoring talkpage comments? I've got an anon over at Talk:Breast that is doing valid cleanup but they are cleaning up other users comments. I reverted once and left a note on their talkpage but I'm not sure I should keep pusing or not. Padillah (talk) 16:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Guess that answers that. Thanks. Padillah (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Although WP:REFACTOR is not official, its intent is...as is the {{uw-tpv3}} that I added to the user's talkpage. Let me know if I need to follow up ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BAGBot: Your bot request 7SeriesBOT 2

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Replied there, cheers! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse Me?

You deleted my article "Elsie Simonofsky" without any respect for the proper procedure. You didn't even follow the proper protocol for speedy deletion. Restore my article and go through the proper procedure for challenging an article, which you should know, or I will report you to the appropriate authorities. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold1618 (talkcontribs) 11:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although you do not have any articles, the article that you created and gave to Wikipedia met no requirements for notability - at at least none that were asserted. I fail to see how I failed to meet any "protocol" as such. If you want it userfied so that you can work on it, empty threats won't do it. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I agree with you when you say that it isn't my article. I see no point in contributing to wikipedia if the work I put in isn't intended as contribution so that everyone may benefit. But enough philosophy for the time being. I don't know why you think my assertion that I will take action is an "empty threat." I also don't see how my defending my honest work is rude. It is rude to delete someone's honest work without warning, and it's against wikipedia policy as well. We are supposed to begin a discussion on removal of an article (if it's not clearly a hoax or advertisement or something scandalous like that) before we may take such a dramatic action. I do happen to have a pretty good reason for writing that article- which, yes, was still in the works (as all articles of all sizes are)- but how can you know what my reasons were if you don't bother to give the contributors a chance to provide those reasons. That being said, perhaps the information I provided did not need its own article and should have been combined with the article for her husband, William Chomsky. Unfortunately, I do not have a copy of what I wrote and I would like to be able to retrieve it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold1618 (talkcontribs) 03:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, you misunderstand WP:DELETE, and most especially the criteria for speedy deletion. If notability is not established, the article can be CSD'd without notice - this is not my policy, or even my interpretation of the policy: it's policy (indeed, all of the moving around and improper titling of the article drew a lot of attention). Someone does not, for example, gain notability by being married to someone who is notable. Care to explain the "pretty good reason" you have for writing it? Does this sound familiar:

(talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Her son, Noam Chomsky, voted the #1 Public Intellectual in 2005, was the most cited living person for eight years in the late eighties and early nineties, revolutionized the field of linguistics- and I mean revolutionized it- and is probably the best known and respected activist in the world. People wishing to understand Chomsky, as I imagine many people must, might wish to know about his childhood, who his parents were, that sort of thing.

Now, Elsie herself did indeed do something notable. Her work had a visible impact on Jewish education in the United States. She also, in a big way, coauthored William's textbooks, which made him prominent- that is to say, he wrote the information and she devised the all of the work for the students. For this reason, and because I need to do more research on her, I now think it more appropriate to add her information to William's page rather than give her one of her own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold1618 (talkcontribs) 04:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hello

WHY WAS THE JONATHAN BORRERO ARTICLE DELETED?HE IS CERTAINLY A NOTABLE AMERICAN ATHLETE.SOME OF THE LINKS ON THAT ARTICLE WERE FROM WIKIPEDIA,AS WELL AS OTHER NOTABLE WEBSITES.I HAVE SEEN MANY LESS NOTABLE ATHLETES WITH WIKIPEDIA PAGES.SUCH AS MANY PLAYERS FROM THE UFL WHICH IS AN UPSTART FOOTBALL LEAGUE. THANKS, ROLANDA DEMARCO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.156.55 (talk) 01:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:ATHLETE...and please stop yelling. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I expect the onslaught, let's keep it in one place. Rudeness, yelling, etc will be removed. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You think that there was sufficient consensus to unilaterally decide for merger?--Drrll (talk) 23:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why does the archive page not contain my comments and some other comments? This is the diff. Please make the archive discussion reflect all comments prior to the close of the discussion.
  • I agree with Drrll. There were no proposal to merge and no consensus to merge. What WP:AFD process authorizes this decision? If you were an advocate of a merge you should have participated in the discussion on parity with non-administrator editors. As administrator you do not not have a supervote. patsw (talk) 23:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, there was a proposal to merge. As well, if I had actually !voted, I would have been ineligible to close the AfD. I re and re-read the entire discussion. There was definitely significant consensus to delete, but I believe based on the reading that even delete !voters saw merit to some of the information included. As such, see MBisanz noted about WP:PRESERVE. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no explanation why your comments inexplicably disappeared - are you suggesting that I intentionally removed them? To what end? You are welcome to add them to the archive, with an link to the original posting of them. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:12, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jargon of the Rush Limbaugh Show. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Bill Wuytz page deletion without reason!

Hello, you have deleted the article on Bill Wuytz, I would like to knwo why. Just google on internet and you will see that you can find him quite easily, it is a notable person. Thanks for the answer. Kind regards, Giorgio —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuleggi (talkcontribs) 07:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and how exactly did he meet WP:N? What makes him notable? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bulgarian painters: 38 names only??? Criteria?

Hi, I strongly object to your deletion of DIKIDJIEVA, Vassilina - VASSA from Category:Bulgarian painters recently on lack of Notoriety. As I pointed out there are names in the ridiculously short list of 38 names (?!? go check BG W. What -if any- criteria for such a list?) which are self-promoting and far less notable, such as Vidolovska (soft eroti-Kitsch) and Houben R. Please could you restore my article, i promise to provide some more support in a week or two. Thx, rgds, Ecce Nemo NoBody tlk 13:56, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being co-winner of second place is the claim of notability? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Pezzettino

Did you bother to read the note I attached to the speedy deletion template? Pezzettino was speedily deleted once, and Orangesquiggles recreated it. See: this and this That's not legit, is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.2.209.226 (talk) 14:10, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it's been recreated more than once, then it needs to be escalated to a different level. Even G4 doesn't count if it has not been through proper discussion. Clearly, it's a contested deletion and you cannot keep speedying it. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Read, and read carefully. You really need to pay attention to what you're doing and to what you claim others are doing. I do not "keep speedying it." It was speedily deleted once by someone else, recreated by the original editor once, and then I requested a speedy delete, based on the reasoning of the first administrator. Sheesh! The inconsistencies in the administration of WP give me the heebeejeebees! 75.2.209.226 (talk) 17:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your turn to read, and read carefully: I never said that you kept speedying it (grammatical use of "you" can be challenging). I read quite well thank you. Requesting speedy based on the reasoning of the first admin will generally fail. Please read WP:DELETE. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some helpful advice :)

Look shithead, why the fuck did you delete my redirects—clit rock and butt rock? They are perfectly synonymous with the names of the articles they redirected to. Of course, you must be one of those musically ignorant philistine faggots who seem to crawl all over the Internet.

Tell you what, I'll give you some helpful on how not to be such a retarded poof:

  1. Find a way to go back in time.
  2. Go back to the year when you were an infant.
  3. Go to the house you grew up in.
  4. Tell you bitch-ass mother to not keep dropping you on your head. Tell that ho that because of her, you magically developed symptoms of Down's Syndrome as you grew older. So much so that these you have to become a mindless vanda-fight admin-gnome on Wikipedia cause that's the only productive thing you can do.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way. I'm just trying to help somebody with far less mental facility than I. Best of luck with your future, and remember that thanks to medical advances Down's syndrome patients are slowly getting integrated into normal society. So there's hope for you yet :)R0CKTS4R (talk) 11:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! Your request to be blocked for harassment and extreme violations of WP:NPA has been granted! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
“Meddle not in the affairs of the dragon; for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.” Josh Parris 14:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Archive time

It's time to turn up the archive rate here. 117 threads is... too many. Josh Parris 14:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree ... but Mizabot seems to be ignoring me ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of my article

I recently had an article I wrote deleted and would like a chance to rewrite the article. This was my first article and now that i have learned more about the writing guidelines I would like to try writing the article again. Question is if I rewrite it with more research and more extensive sources and will it just be deleted again because of the topic? I am disappointed my article was deleted within a matter of hours without having the chance to make substantial changes and would like some assistance. I worked hard on the first one and would like to be able to contribute knowledge and work to wikipedia. Thank you for your assistance. Kellybeth00 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellybeth00 (talkcontribs) 15:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kellybeth. I don't know which article it is that you're talking about, but I will give you a few tips. First, Wikipedia is WP:NOTDIRECTORY (i.e. it's not the YellowPages). It is vital that, for example, any company or subject has notability that is verifiable through third party reliable sources. Most companies, as an example, will fail to meet these requirements. Also ensure that the article does not read as a promotional piece. This means beware of WP:PUFFERY. Any reference that actually refers to either the company's own website, or to a direct client is no good as they are not 3rd party. My final piece of advice - for now - is conflict of interest. If you have any relationship to a subject or organization, do not write about them. Feel free to ask more questions! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. Can I do some more extensive research and rewrite? Kellybeth00 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellybeth00 (talkcontribs)

I see no reason not to ... just keep the key requirements of Wikipedia in mind throughout... might be good to create a userspace draft, and have someone take a look every now and then (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reasons

No it is not! I do not use multiple accounts. When I create a new account, I make myself unable to get back into the old account by changing the password of the old account into one I don't know. I created new accounts because I don't think anybody would believe the truth about why I changed username if I told them. The reason why I created new accounts was the same reason why I changed username. Why I changed my name is important because other people said I should be blocked indefinitely because the reason why I changed my name was because I wanted to hide some bad edits that I had made in the past.

Re the Limbaugh Jargon article

Following the AfD result, I have been trimming down the Jargon article in preparation for merging it into The Rush Limbaugh Show. I think it is now in a state where it can be merged without completely overwhelming the target article (more could probably be done, but I can leave that to the regular editors at the target). However, I am hesitant to actually carry out the merger as long as there is an open deletion review. Should I wait, or go ahead with the merger? What is the protocol here? Blueboar (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest waiting the few days until the DRV is closed, per WP:Guide to deletion#You may edit the article during the discussion. Flatscan (talk) 04:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

your name's initials

is it true your initials are bmw? do you live in ottawa ontario canada? contact by msn blackeyedsusies@live.ca i'll talk to u there bmw. sass. April 14, 2010 @ 5:38am —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.55.48 (talk) 09:39, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Soliciting Bwilkins' Help

I hope you do not mind. I found you by chance, and you are apparently wise in the world of wiki. I am sort of new, and interested in developing articles on people I am interested in. Anyways, I wanted to start this page about this artist Ed Giecek - and after User:TheRealFennShysa asked me to, I even noted several sources as references with "significant coverage listed from independent third-party sources included." But, again they are threatening to take it off again. This guy Ed Giecek is an important artist, and his daughter is this singer and activist that I really like. She sings with the Deftones. And, her father seems to be all over the place. I found him on so many websites as an artist. What makes him famous enough or not, and why does wiki think the references are "poorly sourced?" I found the sources from many places, including art galleries. I find the Talk:Ed Giecek to be offensive, and it seems to discourage someone like me from even trying. And I really have tried. Please give your advice. Thank you. User talk:Solutionhead Solutionhead (talk) 21:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly see nothing that makes he notable ... there's hundreds of thousands of published artists/photog's, but I see nothing that makes this guy worthy of an article, IMHO. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:19, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time. I think Ed Giecek meets the requirements for notability, because his art work is in museums, and yes, published, and I found his name on thousands of internet sites. I thoroughly read notable, and maybe I am missing something... but it seems this artist meets the requirements. Thank you so much for taking the time. Solutionhead (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you still online

I really don't think blocking Neelix without talking first was a good idea. To try to prevent pissing off a valuable contributor, i want to unblock. If you're still around, I'd like your opinion. --Floquenbeam (talk) 13:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've unblocked, and asked him to explain the redirects. --Floquenbeam (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Acknowledged - as per the block notice and log, the possibility of automated edits and/or compromised accounts was conerning. The issue surrounding content was another matter completely, and was not deciding feature. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

help!!!!!

Hello! I was just wondering if you could give me some guidance on how i could improve my sprice.com write up. I actually tried to keep it as neutral as possible. I did have some problems citing references, so I know i need to go read up on how to format that one. Thanks very much for your kind help! Jacintampaul (talk) 15:32, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk: Joseph Peabody

Can you tell me why User:7SeriesBOT deleted the talk page for Joseph Peabody at the request of one user? Instead of deleting a particular topic? Seems like an unneeded step that forces others to recreate the biography page header, etc., from scratch. -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 21:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you read from the FAQ, 7SeriesBOT only deletes blank pages: if there had been biography page headers, etc then WildBot would not have tagged it for deletion. I can confirm that this is the case, looking at the history:
  • 12:53, 14 April 2010 7SeriesBOT (talk | contribs | block) deleted "Talk:Joseph Peabody" ‎ (Only one contributor who requested deletion under WP:CSD#G7) (view/restore)
  • (diff) 12:52, 14 April 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (21 bytes) (No ambiguous links left; rather than leave the talk page blank, as only contributor WildBot is requesting deletion)
  • (diff) 00:59, 14 April 2010 . . WildBot (talk | contribs | block) (67 bytes) (Found ambiguous links to second officer)
Both WildBot and 7SeriesBOT acted as per their design, and nobody has to take any "unneeded steps" (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Mark me clueless or uneducated in the ways of Wiki, but why would a bot delete a blank page? -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 20:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You've read the bot's FAQ, right? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That Account

Can you please unblock User:60.242.166.182? I was not sockpuppeting by editing from User:60.242.166.182 recently. I didn't know the password to User:A1DF67 so I didn't and couldn't login to it so I was editing in Wikipedia without logging in to any account. See User talk:Jpgordon/Archive 5#Accounts, User talk:An Unknown Person, and User talk:Od Mishehu#My Password. It was not sockpuppetry! Please do not misunderstand me!

A1DF67 (talk) 04:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

send me copy of my deleted article

please send me a copy of my deleted article (it needs to be re-written).

Thanks.

Mofoq (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What's your relationship with/to User:FarrisonHord? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:35, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Speedy deletion declined: Walter Kaner

well, i saw the criteria for speed deletion, and having looked not just at the number of contributions, but at their actual content, i saw that actually no real changes or added information was present: they were just adding of categories, templates, links, and some small rephrasing. Still, since i haven't contributed much to en.wiki (i come from it.wiki), if you say that the text does not fulfill speed deletion criteria, i believe you. Do you think is more appropriate to tag the "unmodified" paragraphs as copyviol? Lucha (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just re-write it a bit and clean it up? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:33, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you delete my article?

Why did you delete my article on Popstation? More importantly, what more proof do i have to give for it to be good enough for a wikipedia article? i have tried looking everywhere on Google for other sites who know about Popstation.com, the only results i get when typing in Popstation are about some dumb gaming console named "Pop Station" or P station or whatever the heck it's called. No other site out there on the internet knows about Popstation.com, so it shouldn't be deleted. Morts623 (talk) 07:04, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have answered your own question: the fact that you cannot find reliable, third party sources anywhere to support the importance is de facto proof that Wikipedia should not have an article. This project is not the Yellow Pages, it's an encyclopedia of actual knowledge. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:34, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jbolden1517

I've got to say that I'm shocked that Jbolden1517 was allowed to return. Does it mean nothing that as recently as a week ago he was still breathing threats over at Wikipedia Review? Eugene (talk) 13:37, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As we can never verify who's who on Wikipedia Review as it's not part of Wikipedia, it's always a challenging situation. I will, however, recommend that the two of you remain distant from each other ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:49, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please take a look at this situation. I've asked them twice now to stop deleting the CSD template and told them to please use the {{hangon}} template instead. They don't appear to be listening. Padillah (talk) 20:31, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In case you were wondering...[14] Padillah (talk) 11:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen it ... and see that there's now more than one set of eyes involved. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:10, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indiavision rises from the dead yet again

Similar versions of the article on Indiavision have been previously speedy (and other?) deleted, primarily as spam. See [15], [16], and [17].

Also, the user, and one IP address, has been blocked. See [18].

I documented this on the article's talk page and am merely passing this on to an admin for oversight. I'll put this on the blocking admin's talk page (User:YellowMonkey) as well. No reply needed. -Quartermaster (talk) 12:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice Buns!

One for the bot
One for the owner








..erm, I mean Bot! :-o

Best wishes. --Haruth (talk) 17:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NH

He's still getting at least another 12 hours off, but if you feel he's genuinely learned, then I won't have a problem with you unblocking him. DS (talk) 22:49, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

For some reason I remebered that you provide copies of deleted articles. I see you don't, can you please refer me to someone who can do it? Regards--Gilisa (talk) 06:33, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Danger Angel Band

  • Thanks. I did not even see that you posted on Josh Parris so that's why I did not answer back. To the point: If it will it help make it clear, then here are some points worth mentioning.

First of all, the article was indeed written in good faith and out of the need to include this band along with other equally or less notable Greek rock bands that are already in wikipedia. The Greek rock scene is one that a lot of people find intriguing and there are several bands of all genres and idioms that given they were located more centrally, they would be international or world acts. However, their local importance is of quite some significance by itself. Even more because of the Greek music industry being inadequately organized to say the least.

1. Danger Angel are the first non-greek speaking, hard rock (or general rock to my knowledge)band to be signed by an established American label. There is no precedence to this with any other Greek band. 2. Danger Angel are the first Greek rock band to be able to officially include a singer of this magnitude to one of its albums (Jeff Scott Soto). 3. Danger Angel is one of the top-3 hot bands in Greece right now and the reason why they are not in any local chart yet is that the CD was poorly distributed in Greece and was "officially released" last week. I could not start to explain the reasons it was late but there is no point here. The CD was released through the American Label as announced, January 12. With the distributor absent here (because of their own reasons) they had to distribute the CD themselves and since they are not a certified label, they cannot give feedback on sales to any authority. The CD has sold over 2,500 copies locally already, so it could be certified as "gold" in Greece, however it is not, because of what I mentioned before. Another point is that there is actually no dedicated indie chart in Greece to record such sales, even if declared and registered and especially for indie labels from abroad. 4. All Danger Angel shows are sold out, all around Greece and the fanbase is loyal and growing. 5. Airplay is continuous in stations from Greece to Europe to the US and Latin America. No major networks, though, however constant, daily airplay from January 12 till today. 6. All Danger Angel musicians are notable in Greece, having recorded and performed with Greek rock or other bands for the past 20 years. This is not a kid band, but a band consisted of experienced, seasoned musicians. All of them already have at least one full release (some have three or more)in their past and they are all seasoned session musicians. 7. I made sure I waited until there where enough independent articles for the band, coming from media all around the world that would constitute that this specific band has even minor interest to people globally. The fact that there are already 2,500 people that paid to have them, while not having a clue what the sales are internationally, IMO, gives the band substance, notability and credibility. 8. I also made sure that this article is as unbiased as possible and did not include any band press releases, any opinions or statements coming from the band. I also did not include any forum talk or comments to any of the publications referenced, even if unattached to the band. 9. There are also several printed publications of and for the band in several magazines, mainly like the one that I have referenced already in the article and the band is referenced in a monthly basis in prints like that. Having the press interested in the band is a credit of notability itself since there are several thousands of readers interested in these publications, enough to keep the press interested.

Not counting the band value at all, this article complies fully with WP:MUSIC's criteria for musicians and ensembles

I quote from WP:MUSIC --> A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) may be notable if it meets at least one of the following criteria:

Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable.[note 1] This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3] Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories. Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis

I don't know if this is enough for you, there are several things you cannot evaluate from a distance. Anyway, i would welcome your opinion on what I put down. Let's talk about this further. Thanks