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07:23, 26 February 2013 (UTC) Senor Taichi (talk) 07:23, 26 February 2013 (UTC) Senor Taichi (talk)[reply]

The article Special Delivery (Milly y los Vecinos album) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable song, fails WP:NSONG

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Special Delivery (Milly y los Vecinos album) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Recommend you declare who you are

I recommend that you soon declare the identities of your other accounts. No new user makes their first edit outside of their userspace as a blank RfA article, nor do they immediately jump to commenting on AfDs. As such, this is clearly your second, or more, account, and without an indication of who it is, combined with your questionable behavior so far, people are apt to assume that you're not here to contribute in good faith. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Senor Taichi. You have new messages at Qwyrxian's talk page.
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"Science"

Hi. Because no one has ever said anything about the fact that "She Blinded Me with Science" and "He Blasted Me with Science" have any sort of similarity before, it is against the bylaws of Wikipedia (namely WP:OR and WP:RS) to feature this information in any form. End of discussion.—Ryulong (琉竜) 12:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We'll discuss this in the article's talk page. It's clear you disagree with the trivia, but I want some input from other editors in regards. Senor Taichi (talk) 13:12, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stop reverting on the article. Your edits to the page have inserted various factual inaccuracies, added information about episodes that have not aired, and remove formatting found on all other pages.—Ryulong (琉竜) 17:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

February 2013

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to List of Power Rangers Megaforce episodes. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Please stop adding different episode names without a citation to back it up, as well as changing the protection template added by an admin, and removal of an episode summary. Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:17, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, as you are a new user, please take the time to read up on Wikipedia's policies before you continue making non-constructive edits. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. The next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at List of Power Rangers Megaforce episodes, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. This is in regards now to you continually changing episode 6's title without a source validating your change. Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Old AFD pages are not moved. If a second nomination occurs, then the page will automatically be made at "2nd nomination". Your moves are breaking everything.—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:49, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded—please stop. Familiarize yourself with the deletion review process and follow it. If you continue your current edits, you will be blocked for disruption. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:52, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 days for persistent disruptive editing, as you did at Francesca Hogi. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Senor Taichi (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I never imagined this arguement would escalate into a disruptive block. Can we discuss the dispute here?

Decline reason:

Procedural; not a request to unblock. You can absolutely discuss the dispute here, if you like, but do not use the {{unblock}} template unless and until you're actually requesting to be unblocked. You can post on this page (and this page only) without using the template. Thanks. UltraExactZZ


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    Current disputes

    Jessica Nabongo

    – New discussion.

    Have you discussed this on a talk page?

    Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.

    Location of dispute

    Users involved

    Dispute overview

    The page is continuously edited to include incorrect information that are not even supported by the references the editors use. I listed the facts with countless high-quality references, but these were all ignored. A previous attempt by someone else to add the authors book to the description was removed due to "self promotion". This page is clearly run by people who seem to have a personal issue with the subject.

    How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?

    [1]

    How do you think we can help resolve the dispute?

    Review sources, remove unsupported statements from the page

    Summary of dispute by Valereee

    Ongoing COI with socking has been an issue at this article. I recommended that this editor go to Teahouse, but they decided to come here. Valereee (talk) 20:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Summary of dispute by BubbaJoe123456

    Please keep it brief - less than 2000 characters if possible, it helps us help you quicker.

    Jessica Nabongo discussion

    I've pulled the name of the other woman out of the lead, as I think that may be what this editor is most objecting to, and it probably isn't strictly necessary there. Valereee (talk) 20:55, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Zeroth statement by possible moderator (Jessica Nabongo)

    I am ready to conduct moderated discussion about the Jessica Nabongo article when the conditions are satisfied for moderated discussion. The listing of parties appears to be problematic. One of the editors who is listed does not appear to have been involved in the controversy. On the other hand, an editor who has edited the article has not been included. The other editors have not been notified. It is not necessary to notify Valereee, who has made a statement. All editors who have either made disputed edits or taken part in the discussion should be listed and notified.

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    Zeroth statements by editors (Nabongo)

    There are only two pieces of information in the article that are crucial to the lead: the assertion, and the fact the assertion is disputed by Spotts. At minimum, the fact the assertion is disputed needs to stay in the lead.

    The support for the fact it's credibly disputed was removed in this edit by BubbaJoe123456 who had come in to do a copy edit and, while agreeing the content should be included in the lede, didn't think it needed to be cited and attributed there. I'd argued at the time that this piece of information needed a cite/attribution in the lead to a highly reliable source (an academic in a peer-reviewed journal) because it was that piece of info that was being edit warred over by COI/SPA editors, but agreed to let it go as a third editor, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, also thought it didn't need to be cited/attributed in the lead. Valereee (talk) 11:36, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    First statement by possible moderator (Jessica Nabongo)

    So far only one editor has responded. I will begin moderated discussion when at least two editors reply, and those editors agree to the proposed rules and answer my content dispute question, and then only if there is a substantive disagreement between those editors. Please state what you want to change in the article that another editor wants to leave unchanged, or what you want to leave unchanged that another editor wants to change. Also, please state that you agree to DRN Rule D.

    If there aren't at least two statements by editors who are ready for moderated discussion, I will close this dispute as abandoned. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    First statements by editors (Nabongo)

    Neith

    – New discussion.

    Have you discussed this on a talk page?

    Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.

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    Dispute overview

    An information about an ancient deity in Kemet has surfaced where the goddess Neith is described by ancient egyptians as 'Libyan Neith' shows the origins of this deity, user A. Parrot argues that this information is false and that Neith has purely egyptian origins while user Potymkin claims that Libyan Neith as described by ancient egyptians is the case, user A. Parrot presents Wilkinson and Lesko two egyptologists as proof that the deity is purely egyptian but after much reading reading on their works and presenting their books and page numbers in the talk page, even these egyptologists disagree with the point that Neith is purely egyptian and solemnly agree with Libyan Neith. after contacting Lesko via email she appears to be on board with Libyan Neith. the matter requires final settlement as neither party wants to concede.

    How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Neith#Claimed_Berber_origin

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    I think taking time to consider both sides of the matter and the arguments presented in the talk page can help resolve the issue

    Summary of dispute by A. Parrot

    Please keep it brief - less than 2000 characters if possible, it helps us help you quicker.

    Neith was worshipped in Egypt for more than 3,000 years, and the earliest evidence about her dates to the very murky Protodynastic Period. The sources describe her origins as uncertain; Five Egyptian Goddesses: Their Possible Beginnings, Actions, and Relationships in the Third Millennium BCE by Susan Tower Hollis says (p. 115) that Neith "presents the biggest puzzle of these goddesses".

    At particular issue are two passages from books in the article's source list. Lesko 1999 says (p. 47) "Hermann Kees describes the northwestern part of the delta as being inhabited primarily by Libyans and points out that during the Old Kingdom Neith was characterized by Egyptians as Neith from Libya, 'as if she was the chieftainess of the neighboring people with whom the inhabitants of the Nile valley were at all times at war.' Other Egyptologists dispute this connection, however, and the first appearance of Neith is purely Egyptian." Wilkinson 2003 says (p. 157) "Although she was sometimes called 'Neith of Libya', this reference may simply refer to the proximity of the Libyan region to the goddess's chief province in the west­ern Delta."

    Potymkin insists the article should describe Neith as Libyan or "Egypto-Libyan" and regards these passages in the sources as supporting that position. I believe the article should say scholars are uncertain about Neith's origins but describe a Libyan origin for her as a viable hypothesis—not a certainty. Potymkin continues to mischaracterize me as insisting Neith was "purely Egyptian". A. Parrot (talk) 19:00, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Neith discussion

    Please keep discussion to a minimum before being opened by a volunteer. Continue on article talk page if necessary.

    Zeroth statement by possible moderator (Neith )

    I am ready to conduct moderated discussion about the Neith article .

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    The purpose of moderated discussion is to improve the article. If you agree to moderated discussion, please state concisely what you want to change in the article, or what you want to leave the same that another editor wants to change. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Zeroth statements by editors (Neith)

    Thank you @Robert McClenon for offering to help to make wikipedia articles more comprehensive I am happy that you are able to provide some of your time for this issue, in the Neith article I would like to keep the following statement in the lead of the article: "was an early Libyan deity  worshipped by Libyans and ancient Egyptians. She was adopted from Libya (or was a divinity of the local Libyan population in Sais in Egypt, where her oracle was located). Her worship is attested as early as Predynastic Egypt, around 6000 BC." along with all of its relevant sources, this is due to sources I provided from UNESCO library, World History Encyclopedia which their publications are recommended by many educational institutions including:
    and several archeologists and egyptologists and multiple other sources that confirm the statement to be kept. Potymkin (talk) 20:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Existential risk studies

    – General close. See comments for reasoning.
    Closed discussion

    Ashfield Independents

    – New discussion.

    Have you discussed this on a talk page?

    Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.

    Location of dispute

    Users involved

    Dispute overview

    Criminal Charges section, since renamed Charges of fraud, election offences and misconduct in public office. No other political party in the UK has this section, but each party in the UK has members who have had these issues. Therefore, it is not consistent with other Wiki articles about political parties in UK. The section was included out of political motivation during an election campaign period, made very prominent, and mainly used to deliver a smear campaign via social media during the election period. Either add the same section for all other parties in UK or remove it from this page to be consistent across all wiki pages about political parties in UK. When I have previously removed the section it was added straight back and lies where then published on wiki naming me as Tom Hollis/Ashfield Independent, which is not true. As per talk section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ashfield_Independents Criminal Charges


    How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?

    As per talk section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ashfield_Independents Criminal Charges

    NB - Criminal Charges section, since renamed Charges of fraud, election offences and misconduct in public office


    How do you think we can help resolve the dispute?

    Remove the section entitled 'Charges of fraud, election offences and misconduct in public office' Or add this section for every other political party in the UK mentioned on wiki. Then stop this article from being vandalized.


    Summary of dispute by AshfieldPoliticss

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    Summary of dispute by 208.169.86.177

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    Summary of dispute by 74.222.67.162

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    Ashfield Independents discussion

    Please keep discussion to a minimum before being opened by a volunteer. Continue on article talk page if necessary.

    Existential risk studies

    – New discussion.

    Have you discussed this on a talk page?

    Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.

    Location of dispute

    Users involved

    Dispute overview

    I started this article in August 2, building the content on my draft. My purpose was to rectify what I had previously exposed in Talk:Global catastrophic risk as a confusion "between a hypothetical event, diversely imagined and theorized along history (both in religious thought and outside it), with a specific (yet not monolithic) framework that emerged in the very recent period and became known mainly as 'existential risk', especially in philosophical literature". I decided to create this article as rigorous as I could, using mainly sources that explicit stated the intellectual history of this field, which I found a sufficient amount. I then put the draft in the review process, in which it was soon approved and published in the mainspace. From that very moment I started to receive dismissive statements in the article talk page, the first section of which was, symptomatically, named only "What?", from which the editor started to insist on some points that, frankly, could only come, I think, from someone that didnt take the time to read the article and neither the sources. This user, for example, stated both that "this article discusses none of this: the history of the term, who uses it." and also that "I don't know why we would redirect Existential risk to this article, which is essentially taking a historiography approach.". Confusing and contradictory. Given the space, I cant really cover the whole discussion, but I would like to make clear that i invited the users multiple times to provide sources which minimally contradict the presentation of the topic, and until now none has been presented. Its extremely frustrating to see that I took all the effort to based the article on reliable sources and somehow I am loosing against superficial analogies, ad hoc rules and a kind of questioning which has no openness to answers. I really wish that a independent editor could review the article and the discussion to help us find a solution for this.

    How have you tried to resolve this dispute before coming here?

    The discussion has mainly evolved around one section Talk:Existential risk studies#What?, but today I found out that one user has created another section proposing the move of the article to the draft. I engaged with every point, and used the sources available to substantiate my position, as well as reviewing the article which is considered to be overlapping with this one. I tried to engage with one user in his talk page, but they didnt answer at all User talk:GreenC#Existential risk

    How do you think we can help resolve the dispute?

    I am having a hard time even understanding what is the point of the discussion beyond the attempt to discredit it. But I think that some flashing point are the quality of the article, its reliability on the sources to state what it states, and also the relation of 'existential risk' to 'existential risk studies'. If we are to believe in the sources, then existential risk is a concept of existential risk studies, which means that the redirection should be changed to it, but my edit was reverted.

    Summary of dispute by WeyerStudentOfAgrippa

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    Summary of dispute by GreenC

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    Summary of dispute by Alenoach

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    Existential risk studies discussion

    Please keep discussion to a minimum before being opened by a volunteer. Continue on article talk page if necessary.