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Request for comments on the Main Page

The 2013 main page redesign proposal is a holding a Request for comments on the Main Page, in order to design an alternative main page based on what the community asks for. Please leave feedback regarding any aspects of the Main Page you like or dislike, and discuss the Main Page's purposes and aims.

Evad37 (talk) (on behalf of the 2013 main page redesign proposal team) 00:31, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TAFI's entry

Requesting that TAFI's section be restored on Main page. The queue page has been updated (see Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/2013/21), and it should post correctly at this time. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As discussed before TAFI was placed on the main page, this was a trial (the failure of which would result in TAFI's removal, with a new consensus required to restore it). I'm biased in favor of TAFI's inclusion, but even I must acknowledge that the attempt was unsuccessful.
Users weren't editing the articles to a significant extent. The implementation likely played a major role in this, but a different one would require a new consensus anyway. It simply isn't feasible to fit a more elaborate presentation into the space allotted. I wish that I'd noticed the original discussion before the decision to use the column was made, as this jumped out at me as a big problem.
But the missing week 21 queue was an even bigger problem. As you noted, remaining up to date is key. We knew this from the beginning. (NickPenguin was quite right in stating that "once this goes on the main page, there best be content set up and ready to go.") We can't rely on last-minute scrambling (or, in this case, after-the-fact scrambling that wouldn't even have been possible if the protection were still in effect). We need to ensure that measures are in place to prevent something like this from occurring again before we can even consider another main page trial. —David Levy 04:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal at TAFI talk

A discussion is occurring at Wikiproject TAFI's talk page regarding this matter at: Proposal: use Theo's Little Bot to automate the schedule and queue. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:04, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TAFI summaries

Tripura

I think this counts as the very first time that random requests on the Main Page Talk have speedily been granted. (Two anons in the last week or so demanding content on India.) Huh. 108.180.204.90 (talk) 07:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Eh? I selected the article for TFA because it was one of a batch recently promoted, not because of any complaints here. Tripura is the second India-related article within three weeks, in fact, after Mother India on 3rd May. BencherliteTalk 10:51, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it is excellent that India is getting more coverage on this website.

Avoid unlinked obscure terms on the main page.

The DYK for Caldey Abbey quotes someone as saying "simply the best lavender soliflore on earth". There's no explanation of "soliflore" in the linked article, no article on "soliflore" in Wikipedia, and no entry for "soliflore" on Wiktionary. I think it's a little inappropriate to have a DYK entry which hinges on a term that is left completely undefined. Even having it in the article unexplained is a little on the edge, but picking it to be featured when the likely majority of the audience has no clue what it means and has no easy way of finding out is not very good. -- 71.35.111.68 (talk) 16:48, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Defined here. I suspect whoever wrote the article didn't know what it meant, as if you look at the source it's actually a review of the book not the book itself so they probably just cut-and-pasted it without knowing what it means.
I feel like the DYK reviewing process is not functioning well lately. We've seen one cheesy-joke hook after another, and regular errors like this lately. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Initial reviewers generally focus on the quantifiable aspects of the article, like its length, history, originality, copyright status of the image (if one is submitted), and of course whether the reference checks out. Because of course that's what we've prioritized. And It's easier. Very infrequently do I see people focusing on the textual aspects of the hook, which of course is just as important. Daniel Case (talk) 15:02, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How dare you show US tornado but not London attack

I am disgusted that the United States is once again given special status on this website and the rest of the world is ignored.

As a Londoner, I must have missed the bit where dozens of us were killed. The Tornado in Oklahoma is a highly significant event; the London murder is arguably less so. However, if you want to put your case, the ITN candidates board is thataway. AlexTiefling (talk) 22:33, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is only one example of a reoccurring problem. Tornadoes happen all the time, they kill people, it isn't news. It doesn't deserve this attention.
Please sign your comments. And seriously; things get posted on ITN because we discuss them and reach a consensus. There's no 'how dare you' about it; there is no 'us' the editors in contrast to 'you' the readers. If you want something included, get over to the discussion page, read the guidelines, and make your case. For what it's worth, top-category tornadoes with multiple fatalities in built-up areas happen a lot less frequently than single murders in the UK. But I'm not an admin, and I don't represent any kind of consensus. If there's a consensus to post the Woolwich story, it'll get posted. AlexTiefling (talk) 22:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think it necessary to note that 2013 Woolwich attack has been marked [Ready] at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates. It will probably be up soon. These things take time. hajatvrc @ 22:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's certainly ready as to article quality; it's debatable whether there's a consensus to post. Perhaps an uninvolved admin will be along shortly to decide. AlexTiefling (talk) 22:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is certainly a more significant event worldwide that some common natural occurrence in the middle of nowhere USA. The nature of the attack will probably result in problems with Muslim/non-muslim relationships around the western world, and may incite more violence. It is an importance sociopolitical event. What is the long-term importance of a tornado in the middle of the US? None. But USA editors here certainly think it must be important.

How dare you restart the same unproductive rant for at least the sixth time ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5]), without doing your share to produce the quality non-USA content you so desire to see? After all, every time you beat this old horse, you're eventually given the same ultimatum. It's time to drop the stick and do something productive; put up or shut up.