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References to the Devil and Baltimore

Hi. I'm not sure if your account was hacked, but you appear to have added some poorly-formatted information and references to articles involving Baltimore and references to the Devil. I've removed them because they fail WP:V and are just really bizarre coming from such an experienced editor. Thanks, epicAdam^(talk) 18:13, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

epicAdam, I thank you for your concern. I'm not certain if you clicked the cited reference, it is a bit of a needle in a haystack. Here is a direct video link [1] the piece is at 15:40 and only lasts a minute or so. "Bizarre" is right, I almost coughed up my lunch when I was watching it on C-SPAN earlier today. I guess the old rule of thumb that every edit should have a citation but not every citation should require an edit holds true on this one. My sincere apologies, no harm intended but as a massive history buff to the extent that history (truth) is stranger and more fascinating then any fiction Hollywood or the like can come up with, I thought that this document, that it was retained, that it was described in the collection by a government clerk as such (in 1864), and then showcased by the head of the archives without C-SPAN even challenging him on it (accepting it as true?), what a citation. I'll defer to your demonstrated familiarity with Baltimore and honor your removals, but I do ask if you ever catch something on the level of a C-SPAN or the National Archives about Pittsburgh by all means edit away, I'd love to read/view the source. Again not meant in bad taste, but if you are truly concerned you may want to contact C-SPAN and the Archives, to be the "only" gets history buffs like me truly interested. Marketdiamond (talk) 19:07, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for the reply. The first time I checked, the link to NARA came up dead, but given the content I didn't try to look any further. I see the video you're talking about and that's quite amazing. But as it is, it's a satirical letter that has only the slightest relation to Baltimore. I have re-added the information to the article on the Devil, since it is an interesting piece of American history. It could also maybe be applied to the article on Jefferson Davis. And just for future reference, you can cite a video using Template:Cite video, and include a time reference so people know exactly where to look! Glad your account wasn't hacked. Best, epicAdam^(talk) 20:58, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for those suggestions, I will work on those. Marketdiamond (talk) 20:59, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Art Rooney & the Penguins?

You recently added a section to the Art Rooney article noting that he was a minority owner of the Pens for a short period. However, the article you cited doesn't appear to state this, but only that Rooney called in some favors to get the expansion franchise awarded to Pittsburgh. As I have never heard Rooney owning a portion of the Pens, despite doing a fair bit of reading on the man and on the Steelers franchise, I call into question the veracity of these statements. Unless you can provide a legitimate citation that shows that Rooney took an ownership stake in the next few days, I intend to edit the article and will likely remove this Pens section from the Rooney article. — DeeJayK (talk) 15:02, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking before deleting, however if you read the right sidebar on the link you will notice a listing of the original investors in the Pens franchise, which will read: Russell Byers

Robert J. Dodds

W.D. George III

H.J. Heinz III

Art Rooney Sr.

Clint Childs

Charles Cross

Richard Frame

Ira Gordon

Toby Hillard

Henry Hillman

Jerome B. Lieber

Charles Lockhart

Charles Muse

Thomas Nimick

Richard M. Scaife

William Snyder IV

William Standish IV

George Wyckoff

Rooney's share was probably not that large at all, and from what I can tell the owner in name Jack McGregor was more a civic leader and politician then a deep pocketed franchise founder, thus selling his controlling interest out within the first two seasons. In a lot of ways this was a very early type of co-op along the lines of the Pittsburgh Associates with the Pirates. That said, even though on paper Rooney's share would be a guestimate of 1/10th or less, his influence of sealing the deal deserves a mention and section on his wikipedia article. The source including its right infobox I feel is more than sufficient as a citation, however I will see if there is anything else. Being that he was a fractional minority owner 40 years ago, any newssource is likely to be just a passing mention, if you feel the need to edit the section to better reflect his influence and downplay his steak that might be useful, however I would be against deleting the section all together. Marketdiamond (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification and the additional citations. I'm sorry for not noticing the roster of investors in the original reference. — DeeJayK (talk) 17:32, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to be able to clarify, and very much appreciate your taking the time to notify me of your concerns before deleting or editing. Thanks again. Marketdiamond (talk) 12:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting references

Please take a moment and read through Help:Footnotes. I noticed you're adding footnotes to articles ([2], [3], [4]) but you are not using the <ref> tags or any citation templates. Sottolacqua (talk) 21:02, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will try better, due to some of the logistics of citations referencing multiple articles it isn't a matter of simplicity, but you are correct.

Non-notable events

Please stop adding non-notable events (such as this and this) to the global date pages. The latter entry is so mind-bendingly dull that I cannot imagine it being of interest even except on a 'This Day in Pittsburgh Airport History' page. Entries should at least gesture in the direction of global or multi-national interest. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 12:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't waste resources replying to rude, insulting and borderline policy violating messages. I will consider responding to the merits of your concern, except that is now clouded by the fact that the apparent merits of your concern is that something "international" in name is somehow "mind-bendingly dull" and the fact that somehow you forget that all articles are available for cited and relevant edits, additive edits that you "cannot imagine it being of interest", aside from the fact that by your own name you somehow claim to be more than equal in ownership (?) of the on this day pages. If these are the things you wish for my response on, you may in time get that wish, would be interesting to see if one editors warped view on "international" and non-consensus pseudo verdicts of non-interest will be values wikipedia wishes to promote and grow. Marketdiamond (talk) 00:32, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Rollins College

You left in a bunch of stuff relating to the University of Pittsburgh in Template:Rollins College. I'll clean it up if you don't, but I'd rather not have to look up whether the buildings exist for Rollins College. TimBentley (talk) 16:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Caught me during a time when I am de-prioritizing wiki temporarily, if memory serves (it was so long ago) most buildings at Rollins did not have articles, and the few that did (Knowles Chapel, Alfond, Mills, Olin) I already linked. If you happen to delete the wrong one I won't hold it against you, unfortunately the Rollins articles don't seem to really have that many interested in editing as yet but hopefully we can get some community involvement in it. Kind of heavy lifting for just one editor at the moment, I would have thought the natural evolution of Rollins-centric wiki editors would have corrected that by now. It's on my to-do list, I wouldn't take issue with you if you streamlined the box or even deleted sections of it for now. Marketdiamond (talk) 14:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Pittsburgh Light Rail

Take a look at Template:Metromover and tell me what you think af applying the same coloured station labels to the PaTrolley RDT. Useddenim (talk) 00:01, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok confused me some here I think what your asking is for Template:Pittsburgh_Light_Rail if I think blocked backgrounds for single route stations (matching the route color) is a good idea. I vote YES! Not pink like Miami though, and what exactly is PaTrolley RDT . . . link? Thanks for the innovative feedback! MarketDiamond 10:18, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your input and your contributions to Steelers Nation, however the cited and sourced material you repeatedly delete is also puzzling in that I am assuming you come to the article without a bias against the topic. Without a good faith assumption an editor might consider these vandalism of the worst kind. Also please respond to the new points I have raised with respect to the deletion of nakedly biased and poorly researched data, part of the consensus process in that no wikipedia article is ever "done", it seems you answer my concerns with the source with "past consensus" then answer my attempts to discuss consensus more re:source with the fact that the source is unassailable. MarketdiamondMarketDiamond 20:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Marketdiamond. I would respectfully suggest that when you have an editor who is supporting your cause (like me) that you be careful not to insult that editor in a discussion, particularly when it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. In the Steeler Nation thread, you said, "For the sake of clarity and focus please register with a username." That statement is a classic example of IP discrimination. I'll ask you rhetorically: What does clarity and focus have to do with registering a username? The answer: absolutely nothing. As I said in the discussion, I suggest you educate yourself on WP:HUMAN and WP:URIP2. As it explains, among other great points, "You are an IP too. See here if you don't think so." You seem to be a nice person, but I would suggest never implying to an IP that they have less clarity and focus (or anything else) than registered users. It's an inappropriate and invalid stereotype. It's a huge Wikipedia myth. Not only are IPs equal to you, you may be surprised at how many of them know a lot more about editing than those with usernames. As long as they are contributing positively and productively to the project, they should always be welcomed with open arms. And don't forget, there are many editors with accounts that can be very disruptive. ;) --76.189.97.91 (talk) 06:23, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, intent was not to impact any editor (especially since--as you have read--my points with this DR is about hurtful phrases), intent was to welcome and (maybe misguided) avoid any potential volunteer decisions that could affect a fresh future volunteer. I appreciate your input, my first 2 better worded posts got bounced back (and lost all text) because of some unusually high page activity (3rd party edits and deletion back, back, back and back) at those moments, as well some kind of connection problem for several minutes after, in these confused and "wikierror" moments I may have referenced your talk contribution page (reflecting you as 2 total edits "new" contrary to your demonstrated knowledge) instead of your main contrib page. Thank you for the WP:HUMAN and WP:URIP2 links, as demonstrated with the other like (IP) participant in this DR I make efforts to value all editors hard work, and look forward to everyones future contributions. So as an original edit should have clarified from the start, a sincere Welcome! . . . to the discussion! Marketdiamond (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As I suspected, you are a very nice person. Thank you for your comments. :) --76.189.97.91 (talk) 08:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, a user name would improve clarity because it makes it much more clear who is talking. When you have multiple IP editors -- often with numbers similar enough to be confused -- it's hard to tell who's talking, whether they're responding positively or negatively to your comments, and whether they're making any new points. Being forced to memorize nine-digit strings rather than a simple name does, in fact, detract from focusing on the content discussion, even if some other conceptions about IP editors are inaccurate.

On this point, at least, Marketdiamond and I can find some common ground. — Bdb484 (talk) 20:40, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the sentiment. Marketdiamond (talk) 21:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for you too

Thank you, but it wouldn't be right to accept without me returning the favor for equally tireless work on your part.

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:Thank you for the thoughtful recognition! Marketdiamond (talk) 00:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I see you saw and left a nice comment for me there, wasn't sure about the word count but in hindsight you were correct, better to be clear then shorthand and dense. Marketdiamond (talk) 21:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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You requested this article be restored. Please expand it and assert notability with multiple reliable sources if you want to avoid it being deleted again. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:50, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciation. Marketdiamond (talk) 19:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for the Barnstar. I'm happy to help with resource requests - keep 'em coming. Incidentally, I noticed that you are a Rollins College alum. Someone keeps creating an article about their basketball head coach Tom Klusman but they just copy and paste the text from the college website so it keeps getting deleted. If you are interested in creating a real article on him I think it would be appreciated. GabrielF (talk) 14:10, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your very welcome, as strange as this may sound not really a basketball fan but I'll see if I can wikifi the data on the citation to get at least a good article stub going. Thanks again! ^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 23:16, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your additions to the Pitt portal. I wanted to discuss what warrants inclusion on the On This Day portion. My vision with Pitt's OTD was not like the Pittsburgh Portal project's OTD. I envisioned highlighting just one or two of the most prominent occurrences in Pitt's history for any particular day, so that the most notable ones would stand out. In other words, it is a "most prominent event on this day in history" not simply a listing of every occurrence with a date. I wanted to avoid events like the the Langley Hall explosion, or MLK visit, or national championship being lost in a list of more routine occurrences or sports events (don't get me wrong, I'm a huge sports fan). Now, I'm not suggesting not adding those things, just that it would be beneficial to a reader to be selective about events on one particular date, in consideration of the context of other events throughout the univeristy's 225 history on that same date. For instance, I don't think it is beneficial to put every win over a ranked team or upset for football or basketball in the list, not that that is what you have been doing, but I don't want to start that precedent where it becomes predominantly a OTD in Pitt sports (because those dates are the most easy to find and could flood the OTD) thus resulting in historically significant university events getting buried in a sports tsunami. For example, I really don't think this year's win over Syracuse warrants an entry (and it seems a good bit of recentism), particularly in light of the fact there are 9 wins against top 5 teams, just at the Pete, in the last decade alone and they likely don't all warrant an entry either. Essentially, I am primarily concerned with precedent where editors will litter the OTD (especially in the winter and fall and particularly on dates containing notable historic events) with a haphazard listing of wins from 100 years of Pitt football and basketball. Does that philosophy behind additions to the OTD makes sense to you? CrazyPaco (talk) 19:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CrazyPaco, thanks for noticing my hard work! I can see your point with academic institutions, and I too share that in ways. For all my contributions I have kind of been going on commonsense pillar above policy thing without knowing any specific OTD policies, so apologizes if I gave any appearance of "flooding" and no I am in no way planning to replicate the dozens of items a day found on the city OTD, no human has time for more than one of those 366 article projects lol. The Pitt Portal wasn't fishing expeditions for filler (not that your accusing that, but honestly I hate blank spots on the metro OTD--different aims with metro thou), just migrating some of the already wikified Pitt items (notable enough to match all other metro news) on the city's OTD over every few months as dates approach. I appreciate you noticing so it's great that an editor with your expertise can add what you wish to the Pitt OTD from items at the Pittsburgh Portal. Even if that is zero, I really don't mind, my pathos is more with the city/metro than specifically with Pitt. BTW great job on both portals and projects! ^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 20:19, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There's no policy here, I'm just trying to preemptively explain my rationale in how I started to build it because I've been selective in what I added so far (leaving things out) and I don't want of it to get too out of whack or lopsided. One can go one or two directions with these things: put everything you can find in there or be selective, but because sports dates are so much more abundant and easier to find for Pitt (as opposed to an entire city with multiple daily newspapers), I wanted to be selective so that it was more balanced to all readers just not sports fans. So, I originally approached it from the point of view of the reader having a quote-of-the-day desk calendar, you probably don't want too many quotes on that one page. That's all, it's not policy, just how I've tried to build the Pitt OTD by trying to be selective and as concise as possible. And really, I had no problem with your additions. You used good sources to place some of the more notable events in the basketball program (and some were pretty humorous actually). I am just trying to be preemptive in discussing selectivity so every date in the fall, for instance, does not have Pitt beats PSU or Pitt beats WVU or Pitt beats ND over 100 years of history...it sort of makes, for instance, the 13-9 upset of WVU, which was huge, somewhat meaningless. But for empty dates, well, the standard is obviously lower for including events on them, than for instance, the date on which the university was founded. (BTW, the only one I really thought was way out of place was the Beth O one, so I deleted that one, because that really has nothing to do with the university whatsoever). As far as filling empty dates, the biggest problem is confirming exact dates for events, and the downswing in events in the summer months makes that the difficult for those months. The good news is that Pitt's digital archive has put a lot more material on-line (alumni publications) than when I started this and I understand they may be putting up Pitt News scans in the future. Again, thanks for your contributions, and this was just a preemptive explanation of what I had been trying to do, not really a criticism. CrazyPaco (talk) 00:18, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, btw, you've done more than enough on Pitt and Pitt-related projects to add your name to Wikipedia:WikiProject University of Pittsburgh/Members, whether it is your primary interest or not. There is so much overlap anyway. Your contributions and discussions are valued. CrazyPaco (talk) 03:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CrazyPaco, thanks for the invite and positive feedback! Been a busy few days for me here but the more you tell about your vision the more I'm liking it, very good for an academic institution, and well thought out. Appreciate your thoughts early in the process CrazyPaco, and your right on getting the dates right (Historical Pittsburgh Chronology has tons off by a date or two), and Newspaper archives are always tricky with the "yesterdays" and "last [day of the week]" descriptions. I have thought that leaving your thoughts above on academic OTDs might be good to leave on the talk pages for posterity. Doesn't have to be policy but more a guide and method to the madness so that months or years from now at the very least other wikipedians will know there was a system and reason things were done a certain way, perhaps even they will stay true to the basics of that vision. Editors such as yourself (the majority) I never consider to be critical, thats the magic of Wikipedia, very creative, very knowledgeable but at times colliding visions that can result in even better articles. However your right, with the passing of time a few zealots or newbies could undo good faith edits, something I have thought of getting around to on the city OTD. ^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 11:26, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could you do me a favor and keep an eye on the removal of Pitt's succession boxes (grouped with the Steelers and other teams) on Pittsburgh's football stadium venues (Expo Park, Rec Park, TRS, Forbes, Pitt Stadium). There is one editor that thinks he is running the college football Wikiproject and that this give him ownership over 100s of articles without regard to the editors or other projects that work on those venues' articles. The effect is it makes an for an incomplete list of venue tenants in the succession box grouping for these articles. I already reversed him and don't want to get into an edit war. Talk page comments would be useful as well if you have comments. CrazyPaco (talk) 06:37, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CrazyPaco, I looked over those page histories and that editor, first thought is I can't believe that editor is attempting this quixotic irrationality again of deleting factual data from an encyclopedia. I will be leaving comments on a few talk pages and hopefully avoid any edit warring. Second I do see that the editor on Three Rivers Stadium and Forbes Field (others?) replaced the Succession Box with a Pitt NavBar (replacing "facts" is not what I like to see on Wikipedia) but in your revert the Pitt NavBar has disappeared. Again, not aware of all the discussed opinions on the matter but my first strong instinct would be to have both NavBars and Succession Boxes. This also allows for a very simple, understandable and sustainable policy of what should and shouldn't be included going forward. Please share your thoughts on the Navbars for these pages (possibly just the "Pitt Football" navbar), and I will definitely leave my thoughts on the encyclopedic nature of factual inclusions on all articles especially sports stadiums and will monitor these pages with you for the near future. Thanks for making me aware of this situation. ^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 16:47, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is an ongoing year+ long dispute between me and this editor regarding the standardization of navbox across a very broad college football wikiproject. You can view the current discussion at the talk page there and the original rfc in its archives. Essentially, at some point in the past, he decided to rigidly standardize all college football navboxes for every single college program (there are 100s) and he systematically went about converting multiple navbox topics (like seasons and facilities) into one consolidated and rigidly regulated (by himself) navbox per team. IMO, for some programs, it was an improvement, for others, it overemphasized trivial information and deleted links to articles about important aspects of the individual program. It caused the vast majority of Navboxes to be filled with a meaningless list of consecutive years, many of which are redlinked, a practice discouraged in the WP:NAV essay. What he did would be like if an editor at the American Football Wikiproject standarded all NFL teams with no customization of categories; or if the US Wikiproject rigidly standardizing navboxes for all cities or states. Such a thing is unprecedented across Wikipedia, and it is, in effect, asserting ownership over 100s of navboxes with callous disregard for other wikiprojects and editors that may be involved in the topic's articles. I believe it is actually a dangerous precedent for Wikipedia (and for the Pittsburgh city navbox, or Steelers navbox, etc). Therefore, you may want evaluate this for yourself and comment at the Pitt football Navbox talk page and/or at the CFB Wikiproject. The problem is, there just aren't that many editors involved in the discussion at the CFB Wikiproject and we've never taken it to a successfully wider RFC.

In fact, regarding the Pitt football navbox, right now there is the current Pitt football navbox, the original one (that was much more concise), and an alternative one by another editor at Template talk:Pittsburgh Panthers football navbox/sandbox. Comments on the Pitt navbox talk page about these issues and to generate a consensus for the style of the navbox would be helpful.

Back to the venues. I have no problem including the Pitt football navbox on these articles as well. I know jweiss is trying to remove duplication of navbox links and succession box links (he thinks his standardization of the CFB navboxes trumps other concerns about the articles themselves, like it effectively ruining the list of tenants in the succession boxes or having the bizzare side effect of a Pitt basketball succession box being located on Pitt Stadium, but not Pitt football). As far as Pitt football's nav box, personally, I don't think Rec Park or TRS is probably necessary as a link in the nav box because it isn't a major part of Pitt history, but I also have no problem if people want to put a complete list of Pitt football venues into the navbox. However, I would suggest that if they are included that Rec Park should not be at the very top of the navbox so that is is the first linked article that a reader sees since Rec Park is really a footnote in the overall topic of Pitt football. What I'd like to do is get a consensus of editors that know about Pitt and Pittsburgh to come up with a reasoned navbox, with logic behind what is excluded, included and how it is presented; not forfeit that to Jweiss' one-size-fits-all format. CrazyPaco (talk) 09:16, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the reminder CrazyPaco, doing presently, been away for awhile. ^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 06:37, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there, Market. If you haven't checked the EDMC Talk page in a few days there was a comment from Nomo about including Bittel. I've responded to this but thought that you might like to weigh in as well. Also, if you were interested in making any changes to my draft to shorten the section, please go right ahead. Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 20:20, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Though I am mindful of not rushing anything, as you know, I did want to follow up on the EDMC discussion before the weekend. Did you want me to try reaching out to other wikiprojects to find other editors to review the draft, or do you feel comfortable moving my draft into the article at this point? Cheers, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 21:38, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and added a compacted version of your draft since there was no further discussion despite my personal invitations to concerned editors and the invitations for further references/discussion on the actual article. If there is something that the current draft isn't correct on let me know.^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 03:21, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Point taken, perhaps I'm too use to the reference desks. I'll keep replies on the HD on point. That said I was aware of the India thing, and its moot at this point about the merits of the contribution but I do appreciate your good faith and collegiality on it.^{Market St.⧏}_{⧐ Diamond Way} 10:50, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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