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    March 17

    Posting questions about an article

    How do you post questions about an article, i don't understand?

    thanks, Jassy forever — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jassy forever (talkcontribs) 00:46, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    That depends on the point of the question. This page, the Help Desk, is for asking questions about how to edit Wikipedia. So it would be good for asking questions about adding images, adding references, etc to an article. You can ask a question here by clicking on the link at the top of the page that says "Click here to ask a new question about how to use or edit Wikipedia".
    If your question is about a specific article and doesn't really relate to the "how" of editing the article, then the Talk Page of the specific article you have in mind would probably be best. Things like "Should we mention Person X's involvement in such-and-such event?" are often asked on talk pages.
    Does that help? Dismas|(talk) 01:56, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    a third place to ask would be the reference desk if you have a question about a subject that the article doesnt cover or want to know how article A relates to article B.
    and a fourth option, if your question is "I dont understand this article" would be to look at the left hand sidebar and see if "Simple English" is listed in the "languages". Articles in Simple English Wikipedia version are designed for easier comprehension so clicking on the link you may find that the simpler words and simpler sentence structure and a gloss over the complexities may allow you to have a "Oh, now I get it" moment. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 02:14, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I William C. Chasey was not a recipient of the Navy Cross as recently listed on the Wickipedia page "Navy Cross Recipients". Please remove my name immediately. Thank you.--William C. Chasey (talk) 02:16, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I have removed the unsourced addition of William C. Chasey to Category:Recipients of the Navy Cross. There are also unsourced Category:Recipients of the Silver Star and Category:Recipients of the Purple Heart medal. Are those true or false? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing errors on Nasty Boys (TV series)

    Reference help requested. Unnamed parameter errors were done by me on this page.I don't know how to correct it.Don't suggest reverting my edit. Thanks, Skr15081997 (talk) 03:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Within one of the references you have "...|HOWARD ROSENBERG |...". There is no parameter named "HOWARD ROSENBERG" in the reference template. This is what the help link from the error message is trying to tell you. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Search history

    Please tell me, click by click, how to delete my search history. I need to clean out my old overloaded computer. Shjrley Mae (talk) 03:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You might have better luck over at the Computing reference desk (click here → Wikipedia: Reference desk/Computing). It would be helpful to mention your operating system and browser. Note that clearing your history only deletes shortcuts and doesn't do much regarding an "overloaded" computer. Purging browser cache helps somewhat. The folks at Computing desk will have suggestions regarding how to improve performance.
    • To clear recent history in Firefox, press: Ctrl + ⇧ Shift + Delete  -This will bring up a pop-up box where you can select "everything" from the drop-down menu (press: ) , then press Clear Now  ~I hope this helps, ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 04:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The advice from 71.20.250.51 works for IE9 as well.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    reference

    If I want to group references (<ref group="GROUPNAME">), and I am using a reference in a group more than once (<ref name="XXX">), what should I do? Please link to my user page when you reply. HYH.124 (talk) 06:19, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    @HYH.124: From Help:Footnotes, "When using both names and groups, the syntax is: <ref name=name group=groupname>Content</ref>" -- John of Reading (talk) 07:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the reply, John of Reading! HYH.124 (talk) 07:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    @John of Reading: is <ref group="groupname" name="name">Content</ref> possible? HYH.124 (talk) 14:14, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    @HYH.124: Yes, either way round should work. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:31, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing images

    Could I change a image from a Wikipedia profile, if so How and where could I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torrian2013 (talkcontribs) 12:41, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Probably yes, Torrian2013, but it very much depends on what you mean by "Change an image". If you want to replace an image in an article by another image which has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, then you simply replace the filename in the link by the other filename (getting it precise, including punctuation and case of letters). If you want to replace it by a different image which you have, then you first need to upload the image to Wikipedia or Wikimedia commons; but you may only do this if its copyright status is suitable (most images you find on the internet do not have suitable licensing and you may not upload them). Please see Help:Introduction to uploading images. If you want to take an image in an article and make changes to it you will probably need to download the image and use some tool to edit it outside Wikipedia, then upload a new version. The Image lab may be able to help. By the way, I recommend thinking of pages in Wikipedia as articles, not profiles: this is not a directory, and the content of an article ideally comes entirely from published sources unconnected with the subject of the article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Spam-warning

    I just noticed that the bottom of my talkpage shows Category:User talk pages with Spam-warn notices. I don't remmeber getting a spam-warning and am wondering if I should spend precious time investigating the cause of what seems to be a malfunction. Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 13:08, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    If you look at the source of User talk:Ottawahitech#Speedy deletion nomination of One hour delivery, you will find a [[Category:User talk pages with Spam-warn notices||{{PAGENAME}}]]. --Glaisher [talk] 13:12, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I've removed it - no real reason for a trusted user to be tagged in that category. Yunshui  13:18, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    How to stop repeated vandalism of Jonathan Self page

    I'm writing on behalf of Jonathan Self regarding the repeated alterations and inaccuracies made to his page. The inaccuracies are related to his current relationship status and his current residence.

    The ACCURATE facts are: - Jonathan Self lives in Malta - Jonathan Self is no longer married to Marriane Van Pelt. They are divorced. They do not share a family estate in Cork - as previously mentioned Self lives in Malta. - His ex-wife Van Pelt is not an equestrian writer. Any references to current or past relationships are not relevant.

    Self can provide evidence of both his residence in Malta and his divorce from Van Pelt.

    Finally the photo of Self is being continually removed.

    All these inaccurate amends are made by the same user - Jvpwiki.

    What Self would like to appear (as it is all true) is the following:

    Jonathan Self (born 1959) is a British author and journalist. He is a former trustee of the World Land Trust, an environmental charity, and one of the founders of Honey's Real Dog Food, an artisan dog food business. His brother is the novelist and broadcaster Will Self.[1] His father was the academic Peter Self.

    He began his career as an advertising copywriter and in 1982 founded Self Direct, a direct-marketing agency. He sold his business in 1993 in order to have time to raise his three children. After publishing his autobiography, Self Abuse, in 2001 he ghostwrote a number of celebrity memoirs. Self has written extensively for the British media including Country Life, The Times, The Daily Telegraph and The Mail on Sunday. In 2009 he collaborated with Arabella Lennox-Boyd on Welcome to Dream Acres, a Country Life series about landscape gardening.[2]


    Please let me know what can be done to stop this vandalism.

    Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1745A (talkcontribs) 13:24, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read the Wikipedia definition of vandalism. On that article, the closest to vandalism is your repeated removal of information which is supported by published reliable sources. What Self would like to appear is of no relevance to Wikipedia. What is relevant is what has been published by reliable sources independent of the subject. The place to discuss changes is Talk:Jonathan Self, but please remember to declare your conflict of interest when you make suggestions there. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:48, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Please be aware that vandalism is the intentional interference with the quality of the encyclopedia. The allegation of vandalism, when inappropriate, is a very strong personal attack, and should never be made in what appears to be a content dispute. Too many editors who have content disputes think that using "vandalism" in a section title is an easy way to get attention to their side of the content dispute. It does get attention, but it is likely to be a boomerang. Do not use the term "vandalism" to try to get attention to a content dispute. If you know Wikipedia well enough to know what the definition of vandalism is, you should know it well enough to know not to make that allegation idly. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:29, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Hang on. The terminology here may be unfortunate, but BLP subjects are not forced to accept factual inaccuracies in articles just because they are sourced. The references in that article supporting descriptions of Jonathan Self's marital status and residence are years old, and it is perfectly acceptable for him to request an update to these facts if his circumstances have changed. ARBCOM has decreed a degree of leniency toward BLP subjects who attempt to correct what they regard as factual inaccuracies about themselves, even if they go about it the wrong way. If the OP is indeed conveying a direct request from the subject of the article, then we are requested to try to act with kindness toward them WP:BLPEDIT. 1745A, have a look at WP:BLPSELF and the links it contains. You can bring up the matter at the article's talk page as suggested above, or you can ask for help as described in the link I have just given you. We will not rewrite an article in a form of words preferred by a subject, and we would prefer you not make the edits yourself, but factual updates can certainly be requested on behalf of a subject. A reliable source for the update would go a long way towards making the process easier, as would avoiding unwarranted accusations of vandalism. Good luck. - Karenjc (talk) 20:06, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Schwan Food Company

    Schwan Food Company has had multiple lawsuits filed against it (in varying states and jurisdictions) alleging employment discrimination. Allegations include racial discrimination, Americans with Disability (civil rights violations) discrimination, among others.[3] In December, 2013, Sandeep Gupta, a former manager that worked at Schwan's Home Service offices in Austin, TX and Houston, TX filed a lawsuit alleging racial discrimination by Schwan employees. This discrimination included verbal and physical abuse and alleges Schwan's Home Service did not take adequate steps to prevent or stop such abuse from occuring. In his claim, Gupta states that he was held down and punched in the groin by fellow co-workers on multiple occasions, locked in a freezer, and frequently referred to as a "terrorist" by co-workers (despite Gupta being a Hindu), including a district manager. Based upon these conditions and the discriminatory work environment created by his co-workers and the district manager, he did not feel he would be able to get support from Schwan Home Services on these abuses.[4]

    Schwan Food Company

    Good morning all -

    The above edit, placed on the Schwan Food Company page is part of a media campaign by a plaintiff in a case against my client, Schwan's Home Service, Inc., a subsidiary of the Schwan Food Company, in an attempt to leverage a settlement, as the facts in his post are alleged and exaggerated and have not been proven true, citing to a press release issued by plaintiff and not an unbiased news story. As it is a one-sided commentary on ongoing litigation, and Wikipedia is being used to leverage the outcome of that lawsuit through trial in the public eye, I am going to remove it and request that the IP address of the original editor be blocked and editing privileges be restricted until after a decision has been rendered by the applicable court.

    If you have any questions, please contact me at [phone # redacted] Nick Simonson, Corporate Attorney, Schwan's Shared Services, LLC Law Dept., Attorneys for Schwan's Home Service, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Njsimonson (talkcontribs) 13:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I have reverted that edit per WP:UNDUE.--ukexpat (talk) 14:22, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating a second account

    I've just made a second account that I have not used for anything yet. I want to use the second account for commenting on articles relating to contentious topics without having to worry about someone going after me outside of Wikipedia. This account uses my real name, which had to made public for good reason. How do I make it so that a responsible person like a Wikipedia admin could see that the other account is mine without having to worry about random IP user also spotting the account is mine? Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 15 Adar II 5774 15:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You can email one or two Wikipedia admins that you trust, if you wish, but you are not actually obligated to reveal the connection between your accounts as long as you abide carefully by the policy on multiple accounts. Assuming that you intend to use the two accounts to edit in different areas, you should not need to worry about needing to tell anyone. Yunshui  15:49, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah okay, was worried for a moment. It's only so I can comment without having hordes of angry opponents attacking me beyond Wikipedia. No evil plans for the moment. Thanks! Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | Say Shalom! 15 Adar II 5774 15:55, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Saint Patrick's Day

    Hello,

    There is a mistake on your "Saint Patrick's Day" page. It is listed as St Patty's Day under "Also called", which is incorrect. The Dublin Airport Facebook page posted the notice clarifying that it's "Saint Paddy's Day," not "Saint Patty's Day." (DublinAirport/Facebook)

    Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.252.254.114 (talk) 16:43, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:SOFIXIT. You may edit it, citing a reliable source. I agree that references to "St. Patty's Day" are just plain wrong, because that changes the gender of the saint. If there is a St. Patricia (and there likely is, in the Irish monastic movement of the early middle age), then she is St. Patty, but he is either St. Patrick (Sanctus Patricius) or St. Paddy. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:56, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    As the article is currently semi-protected, the IP editor raising the point cannot fix-it, whilst the use of St Patty relates to a CBS news report - are you saying CBS is not a reliable source? - Arjayay (talk) 18:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Regardless of the gender logic, it's correct that it's also called "St Patty's Day". A simple Google shows so many examples that it seems suitable to mention, and it's sourced in the article. If it wasn't also called St Patty's Day then there wouldn't be a website asking people to not call it that. Saint Patrick's Day lists both Patty's and Paddy's under "Also called" so I don't see a problem, unless we want to hide what people actually call something just because we don't like the name. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:23, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Before calling something "just plain wrong" please read the extensive discussions on the talk page and its archives focusing on this. --NeilN talk to me 12:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Infobox insert question

    Right now I am in the process of making a new page. I am trying to insert an infobox with a picture and basic information about my subject, but I can't find out how to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benheer2 (talkcontribs) 19:56, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Infoboxes are defined as templates. Looking at your sandbox, I'm guessing that you want {{Infobox comic}}, and if you look at the page I have just linked to it shows you what to insert into the article: you just put suitable values after the = signs (you don't have to fill in all of them). Unfortunately that particular template doesn't have documentation explaining the various parameters, so I suggest you find another similar article which already has the infobox, and edit that article not to make any changes but just to see how the infobox is used. --ColinFine (talk) 21:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    {{Infobox comic}} is for a single comic story. I think you want {{Infobox comic strip}} which does have documentation. You may also be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Comics. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear editors: While reviewing this article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tokwa Salazar Peñaflorida I was surprised at the number of images of artwork. Most professional artists don't give away their work. Are there Wikipedians who specialize in checking the copyright status of images, and if so, what is the process of asking for a check? —Anne Delong (talk) 23:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Hey Anne. If those images were local I'd advise you to head over to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files (or if you were more sure, Wikipedia:Files for deletion), but these images are hosted at the Commons. I haven't located a dedicated intermediate forum like we have, before jumping to a deletion request, but I have seen users asking these type of questions at Commons:Village pump/Copyright, so you might try there (they also have a help desk). See here for Commons deletion requests. However, before doing any of that, I'd leave a message at Commons:User talk:Spearminttt and User talk:Spearminttt asking him about these uploads – whether he is the artist or thought he had right to release the photograph he took of the paintings (which is not at all an uncommon misunderstanding). And maybe it will turn out he is the artist after all.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:49, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]


    March 18

    User page accidentally in mainspace

    I have made a 'user page' and wonder how it becomes a regular article within the Encyclopedia.

    Can you answer this question. I am listed under people from the article entitled Woodville, Ohio.

    108.89.246.64 (talk) 00:31, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You are no longer listed under the People from Woodville, Ohio due to this edit. In general, people should have an article first before being added to these lists. Since there was no article, the link was removed. I do see that there is a user page at User:Ray W. Clarke. This is not the same as having an article in the main space. While you may meet our notability requirements, see WP:BIO, it is generally suggested that people not write about themselves. See WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Dismas|(talk) 05:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    If you must write an article about yourself, I suggest using the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process where you will get experienced editors looking over your text and offering advice. The content on the user page would not be an acceptable article. --NeilN talk to me 12:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Since this was intended to be an article, your userpage could be potentially be deleted as per WP:FAKEARTICLE. Generally speaking, if you are notable, somebody else will create your article. Jason Quinn (talk) 03:01, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Long loading time

    Why does the login page take more than thirty minutes to load? This is unacceptable. What can I do about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.95.236 (talk) 01:27, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You seem to be the only one experiencing this judging from the fact that you're the only one asking about it. Therefore it is likely something to do with your computer and not Wikipedia itself. Dismas|(talk) 05:04, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    No. The Verizon IP wasn't the only person experiencing this problem. See a discussion of performance problems with Verizon users at WP:VPT that has recently been solved. The complaint was logged somewhat before the problem was solved. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I make my wikipage private?

    Want to keep my work private for the moment as I am working on info and would rather not have it edited.. is this possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkmale25 (talkcontribs) 03:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi @Darkmale25: If you don't mind other editors seeing your work, you can create your article on a subpage of yours (such as at User:Darkmale25/Sandbox), and then make a request over at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection to prevent other editors from editing it. People will still be able to see your work, but won't to be able to make any changes to it.
    If you don't want anyone to be able to even view your work, unfortunately that's not possible. If you don't want others to see your work, I recommend writing up your article locally (in a Notepad file or something of that sort), and then using the preview function anytime you wish to see how your article will appear live. Hope this helps! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:48, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    That said, most editors will not go looking for sandbox articles. And even if they happen upon it, they generally don't edit in someone else's sandbox without that person's permission. If you want, you can go the requesting protection route but, in my opinion, that's overkill. A notice at the top of the page politely asking other editors not to edit the sandbox article should be enough. Dismas|(talk) 04:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    This is all assuming that you are creating an article which will eventually be moved to mainspace and edited by others. Even in user space, the content should be (1) material used in article development or (2) material related to Wikipedia activities. You should see some of the stuff that people add to Wikipedia that they don't want others to edit - score sheets for fantasy football games, love notes to their girlfriends, resumées, short stories, recipes, tirades about their bosses, copies of company web sites, etc., etc.! —Anne Delong (talk) 05:12, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Are they supposed to do that? Is it frowned upon but look the other way stuff, or against policy and report if found stuff when editors use space for fantasy leagues and resumes? I found one who makes fantasy league stuff right on their User: page... not on talk or sandboxes. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    That kind of stuff should go to WP:MFD. Also, I thought page protection couldn't be limited to an individual user... *searches* - Purplewowies (talk) 06:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Users can request protection for any of their own pages/subpages, excluding their talk page :) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:27, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Instructions on dealing with such pages are at
    Wikipedia:User pages --> Ownership and editing of user pages --> Handling inappropriate content --> On others' user pages.
    If it is a subpage, speedy deletion or miscellany for deletion may apply. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Users have no extra rights for protected pages in their userspace. If a page is fully protected then that user will also be unable to edit it (assuming it isn't an administrator). If it's semi-protected then all autoconfirmed users can edit it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Derp, I misunderstood the question. Thanks for the clarification. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 12:08, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    unable to open mega file

    when I click on a mega file, it lead me to the MEGA icon but nothing happens after that....what's the problem — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.2.230 (talk) 08:20, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 08:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Ovo Energy

    The Ovo Energy page has an out of date logo and have left a message suggesting the logo be changed. Is this something that can be looked at?

    Ovo Energy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbrien12 (talkcontribs) 10:20, 18 March 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

    I have moved your question to the foot of the page, as that's where new topics go. I have also added a section heading, & changed the URL in your question to a wikilink. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Looking for a four letter word and do not know the third letter how do I indicate a gap? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.32.199.176 (talk) 10:42, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The Wikipedia search box does not support this. If you using a different site, you'll need to look at that site's help pages; for example, at www.crosswordsolver.org you indicate a gap by leaving a box empty. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I need help with the article "Erika Eichhorn Bourguignon." Someone attached a tag at the top of the article saying it was an orphan since no other articles link to it. I did, therefore, link it to two other articles, "altered states of consciousness" and "Felicitas Goodman." I believe that the note about lack of linkages should therefore be removed.

    Also, someone tagged the article for not being reviewed. If someone could review it, that would be great. Actually, it was reviewed and approved by an appropriate Wikipedia person several weeks ago -- before I removed it so that Erika Bourguignon could look it over before I uploaded it again.

    Thanks!

    Athana (talk) 12:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Athana. If you believe that one of the maintenance tags at the top of a page is no longer appropriate, you may remove it. Be sure to leave an edit summary explaining why you think this is the right thing to do. As you say, it is no longer an orphan, but the reliance on primary sources remains an issue: it needs references to sources unconnected with Bourguignon. If you are in contact with Bourguignon, please be sure you understand Wikipedia's policies on conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 13:25, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Log in

    I am having trouble with the log in, It said there was no account,, when I tried to open a new account it said there was already an account with the same name, Kinda of a catch 22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meadow Museum (talkcontribs) 13:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You appear to already be signed in fine! Samwalton9 (talk) 13:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing tags from the article re: Erika Eichhorn Bourguignon

    I need help with the article "Erika Eichhorn Bourguignon." Someone attached a tag at the top of the article saying it was an orphan since no other articles link to it. I did, therefore, link it to two other articles, "altered states of consciousness" and "Felicitas Goodman." I believe that the note about lack of linkages should therefore be removed.

    Also, someone tagged the article for not being reviewed. If someone could review it, that would be great. Actually, it was reviewed and approved by an appropriate Wikipedia person several weeks ago -- before I removed it so that Erika Bourguignon could look it over before I uploaded it again.

    Thanks!

    Athana (talk) 13:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    See the section #Erika Eichhorn Bourguignon above. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:34, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Footnotes

    There are two footnotes, [a] and [b], referenced in the third and fourth columns of the leftmost table HERE. I want to have the same things repeated in the same places in the rightmost table. If the form of the footnote indicators — [a] and [b] — needs to be changed to accomplish this, I'd prefer that the new form is something that doesn't make the columns wider. For example, [Note A] wouldn't be too good. Feel free to change the page yourself; I have other pages to do this on, and I can follow your example there. Right now, it's beyond my capability. Lou Sander (talk) 13:59, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    It can be done with {{efn|name=...}} as in [1]. It may be a little confusing that note a and note b each have backlinks to occurrences linked on "a" and "b". You could consider another {{efn}} group name than the default lower-alpha. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:57, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Perfect! Thanks! Lou Sander (talk) 15:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Maggie Thrett

    Maggie Thrett (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Maggie Thrett.. aka..Diane Pine.. did not have three children .. she was their step mother... after leaving Hollywood, she went on to work at Long Island Jewish Medical Center in New Hyde Park, NY part of the North Shore LIJ Health System.. she recently retired from her position there after almost 30 years, she was a Telephone Operator... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.108.131.168 (talk) 16:24, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing video games as sources to themselves

    I think video games should be allowed as a source onto themselves; rather than having to use their instruction manuals simply because they have page numbers. The freedom of video games is difficult for citation as even units of time that could be used for citing a film are meaningless when progression is based on the players actions. Most video games take longer to play than even multiple comic book story arcs; so pinpointing when or where something occurs in the game is incredibly difficult for a referencing system designed mostly for written material. If this is something for the village pump please let me know. CensoredScribe (talk) 16:53, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    This is the Wikipedia help desk - it is intended solely to answer questions relating to the use or editing of Wikipedia. You don't appear to be asking a question. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games is probably the place you want. Or maybe Wikipedia talk:Identifying reliable sources. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:53, March 18, 2014 (UTC)

    Referencing errors on M113 armored personnel carrier

    Reference help requested. I caused this error as I was trying to enter information. I am unsure how to correct it or add the info I was attempting to insert. This is my first attempt at adding info to Wikipedia and I failed miserably. I still want to add additional info. Any suggestions on how to proceed. Thanks, WWW3ii (talk) 17:51, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    every "open" needs to be "closed" and there was a missing "close". I just guessed where to place it, so that it includes as the "note" the list of 10 things. If that was not what you intended, feel free to move the close. see Help:Referencing for beginners

    Unwanted user page subpages

    I've created several subpages to my user page. They have served as sandboxes, but they aren't named as sandboxes. They have now served their purpose. Can I get rid of them, and if so, how? Lou Sander (talk) 18:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You'll want to look at CSD U1. Samwalton9 (talk) 18:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
     Done Thanks! Lou Sander (talk) 13:39, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding a Photo

    I am working on the page for Kon Trubkovich (Kon Trubkovich) . I have received permission from the artist and representing gallery to publish a photo of his work. It was recently removed because it lacked the proper copyright licensing information. Please tell me what that is and how I go about obtaining that info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intern.mbg (talkcontribs) 19:44, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    See donating copyrighted materials. Keep in mind that the artist must be willing to release the work under a free license for this purpose. Otherwise, it may still be included on Wikipedia, but it will have to follow certain policies. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Remove redirect

    How do I remove the redirect of my sandbox to the article Chaz Guest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AEN2013 (talkcontribs) 20:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    From your sandbox, hit the edit button, and blank it or change it as you wish. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:34, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    For another time, see Help:Redirect#Creating and editing redirects for how to get to a redirect. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    you can either just keep reusing it, or you can request a speedy delete Wikipedia:SPEEDY#G7._Author_requests_deletion. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:59, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Tim Medvetz

    add Tim Medvetz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.8.52.2 (talk) 20:31, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    We volunteers at the Help desk answer questions related to using or editing Wikipedia; we do not obey commands from random people. If your intent is to request that an article be created, that can be done at WP: Requested articles or you can do it yourself at WP: Articles for creation. 71.20.250.51 (talk) 20:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    status of a submission

    I submitted an entry a while ago for the dancer and choreographer Eryc Taylor. Is there a way to find out the status of that entry? Will I be notified?Edmo49 (talk) 21:21, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    You can go to the bottom of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Eryc Taylor and find a notice that reads "Review waiting". Once it is reviewed, you should receive a notice on your talk page. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]


    March 19

    Somaliland University of Technology Wikipedia webepage

    Dear Wikipedia Support,

    This page belongs to the Somaliland University of Technology. I am the President Founder of this University. The University has exclusive rights to past right information on this page.

    The username:(Slibaan) is a fake one who torpedoes our page and edits it regularly. It pastes fake information here.

    I ask the Wikipedia support to restore our Username: somtech and stop this vandal action by Slibaan.

    I look forward to hearing from you soon

    Thanks for your time and consideration.

    Dr. Saeed Sheikh Mohamed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slibaan (talkcontribs) 00:39, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Dr Mohamed. I am a little confused by the above, because you appear to have posted that request from the account Slibaan. However, I can tell you that in one respect your are mistaken: you do not have exclusive rights to the article Somaliland University of Technology. Nobody owns any page in Wikipedia or has exclusive access to it. Furthermore, if you are the President of the university, you have a conflict of interest and you are strongly discouraged from posting on the page yourself. You are welcome to make suggestions for the improvement of the article on its talk page Talk:Somaliland University of Technology.
    As for the edits to the article, it looks to me as if Slibaan and Middayexpress are carrying on an edit war. You (collectively) have what we call a content dispute (which if I understand correctly, is about the national status of Somaliland, though I may be misreading). All of you should stop simply reverting each other and discuss the matter on the article's talk page. If you cannot reach consensus, you should make use of the dispute resolution process. Note that disagreeing with you is not the same as vandalism.
    I'm not sure what you mean about the username somtech: Are you referring to User:Somtech26, which made three edits to Somaliland in 2012? --ColinFine (talk) 01:12, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Those edits were by User:Somtec26 (no 'h'). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The Slibaan account has been adding secessionist pov to the university page and has in the process been reverted by several different editors including myself. A user who identifies himself as Dr. Saeed Sheikh Mohamed, the President and Founder of the university, then today posts the unsigned message above, which indicates that Slibaan is a vandal who regularly "torpedoes our page" and "pastes fake information here". The user also asks that his username somtech is restored and request that Slibaan's vandalism be stopped. Sinebot later signs that unsigned post, only to reveal that Dr. Saeed is in fact posting from the same Slibaan account that he just suggested was vandalizing the page. Odd. Middayexpress (talk) 14:23, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Isn't it possible that the Somaliland University of Technology has limited resources, forcing Slibaan and Dr. Mohamed to use the same IP address? In any case, I would encourage Dr. Mohamed to register an account with Wikipedia, to avoid such confusion in future. Maproom (talk) 11:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The message wasn't just from the same IP address as Slibaan, it was logged in as Slibaan. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Blurred Screens on Laptop and Tablet Computers in Wikipedia Articles

    Why are some laptop, phones and tablet computers have their screens blurred in Wikipedia Articles? I have never seen this before on Wikipedia and don't understand the reasoning. Thanks Here's an example File:ThinkPadX230.jpg Polloloco51 (talk) 03:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Screenshots of software are usually copyrighted. See commons:Commons:Screenshots and Wikipedia:Software screenshots. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:07, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, The photos of the laptops and tablets are not true screenshots, but depict the Windows OS running within the photo itself. It is really silly in my view and ruins the visuals for the readers when reading the articles. Hopefully whatever Copyright rule or policy that's causing this can change.Polloloco51 (talk) 03:26, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Exactly. What is shown on the screen is copyright, and Wikipedia takes issues of copyright very seriously. This has a number of consequences which might strike you as silly - for example, a lot of articles on living people do not have photos of them because nobody has (yet) been able to obtain a suitably licensed photo of them. But since the policy is dependent on the law of copyright, it is unlikely to change. --ColinFine (talk) 10:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Rohingya description

    Please review the content of your article on the Rohingya of Myanmar. While later in the information provided there are credible and objective citations and documentation, the earliest part appears to have been contributed by a source that is inflammatory and prejudiced about thee poor folks. While the UNHRC has declared them to be the most persecuted in the world, the beginning of the article paints them in a manner that suggests they are better described as villainous dangerous interlopers. This situation in old Burma is guaranteed to gain more notoriety in the very near future, and having a balanced description in Wikipedia would be very valuable.

    As an aside, I am not from Mynamar, I am not Rohingya, and I am not Muslim. I am a practicing Buddhist from the United States currently in Thailand. My own personal reaction is dismay for these people, and dismay that those claiming Buddhism as their spirituality are, bizarrely, promoting violence rather than compassion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.87.210.125 (talk) 05:37, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The best place to discuss this is the article's talk page. The problem is caused by single-purpose account User:JohnDoe2014 adding unreferenced defamatory statements and falsifying population numbers. Maproom (talk) 07:45, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I am now sufficiently convinced that User:JohnDoe2014's edits were not intended as constructive, that I have reverted them without discussion. Maproom (talk) 07:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia: How does this happen?

    I browse Wikipedia on a weekly basis and find numerous blatant errors (incorrect names, incorrect birth dates/years, blatant grammatical errors, blatant text errors, etc) almost every time. Usually I don't bother to correct them, but what I'll often do is make note of the article and come back every so often to see if the blatant error has been corrected. 90% of the time (even if it's months later) the error remains on the WP article. So my question is this: how does this happen, and how can WP be considered reliable and legitimate when these flagrant errors abound and remain uncorrected for long periods of time?

    Two recent examples:

    The Dennis Kozlowski article had an incorrect first name (a totally blatant error for an encyclopedia) going back to January 2011. That's over THREE YEARS where an article had somebody's name wrong.

    In February 2013 a user added a second surname to the David Parker Ray article. I did a google search and could find ZERO reliable sources for that surname. So a completely made-up name remained on a WP article for over a year, again how does nobody catch this stuff?

    24.193.119.220 (talk) 06:03, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, not to avoid your question but you fully admit that you are catching these errors and not doing anything about them. You even take the time to research them but then not use just a little more time to fix them. Dismas|(talk) 06:08, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The simple answer is that Wikipedia cannot be considered reliable. It is mostly reliable, but, as you say, the level of reliability is dependent on its many volunteer editors such as you and me. There is nobody whose job is to find, much less fix, errors. The standard advice is not to rely on Wikipedia for anything important, but to follow the references in its articles and check the facts from them. (Unfortunately, not all articles are as well referenced as they should be). If you find an error, even if you do not have time to research the issue, you can either remove it (if it is unreferenced) or tag it with a template such as {{fact}} which will draw others' notice to the doubt. If you do this, make sure you leave a meaningful edit summary, so that others will not think that you are vandalising the article. --ColinFine (talk) 10:33, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for fixing these errors recently. Please make other improvements to Wikipedia. As said by Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia: You do!. We have more than four million articles and not enough good volunteer editors to check everything. Wikipedia is not completely reliable but still useful for many purposes. I guess that's why you do browse it on a weekly basis. If we had strict policies to reduce errors like disallowing unregistered users and demanding qualification tests for registered users then we would have far less content. The co-founder of Wikipedia created Citizendium with stricter policies to be more reliable but few people outside Wikipedia editors have heard of it. It has few articles, editors and readers, and very predictably has no information at all about Dennis Kozlowski and David Parker Ray. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    What I can't quite understand is how so many people can come across a blatant error and not fix it. If 1,000 people visit a particular WP article over say a 40 day period you'd think that maybe ONE person would take a minute or 30 seconds and correct the error. However that seems to not be the case since I have been browsing WP for about a year now and numerous times an error can remain (again not a minor error but a MAJOR/BLATANT ERROR) on an article for months or even years. IMO this decreases the credibility and legitimacy of WP, and frankly is just embarrassing. 24.193.119.220 (talk) 23:59, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe others are like you and are checking to see how long an error will stay in an article rather than fixing it themselves. Another reason could be that the readers didn't recognize the errors. 69.255.176.248 (talk) 00:14, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    You should completely understand why someone won't take a minute or 30 seconds and correct an error they find. At this point the only person we know came across the errors, recognized them as errors and left them in the article is you. 69.255.176.248 (talk) 01:03, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Let me clarify - what I would do is make note of an article by jotting it down on a piece of paper I keep near my computer, then check back usually after several months (sometimes sooner) and approx. 90% of the time the error was still not corrected. I would then correct it myself if it was still unchanged. 24.193.119.220 (talk) 06:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    So if I understand correctly, you find errors jot them down without fixing them, wait to see if anyone else fixes them. Then when no one else fixes them you fix them and then complain that errors persist in articles because editors that see errors don't take the minute to fix them. One of the problems is you. We have no idea how many editors saw the errors you found, realized they were errors and didn't fix them. We do know of one person who has stated they found errors and left them in the articles for others to find, you. So since you do this, can you explain to us "How does this happen?" GB fan 12:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Rather than noting it down and waiting a few months, why not simply fix the error when you see them? Astronaut (talk) 14:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • GB fan and Jason Quinn you are confused. The reason I'm posting here is to point out how inaccurate, unreliable, and riddled with double-standards Wikipedia is. I've noticed on numerous occasions how "WP Admins" or other editors who have been on WP for a while and have somehow "gained credibility" will squabble with "lesser" WP editors over a minute issue, or revert an accurate piece of information (usually because the source of info was deemed "unreliable" due to arbitrary rules that WP employs). 24.193.119.220 (talk) 18:00, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Where in this or the Village pump discussion have you ever stated this reason for raising this topic. In your original post you ask: "how does this happen, and how can WP be considered reliable and legitimate when these flagrant errors abound and remain uncorrected for long periods of time?" It isn't reliable and as far as I know, no one says it is reliable, there is even an essay about this, Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source. You still haven't answered why you don't fix the errors you find at the time you initially find them rather than jotting them down and coming back later and fixing them. Anyone who doesn't fix errors they find is part of the problem. GB fan 18:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'll give an example of what I'm referring to. The past year or so that I have browsed and read articles on WP I've noticed the California Birth Index (CABI) is used as a reliable source for dates of birth (after all that website is about as reliable as you can get). I also have noticed on numerous articles (I'm fascinated by birth dates and number sequences, don't ask why) those very same references and DOB entries get removed because they are not "reliable". 24.193.119.220 (talk) 18:32, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    So why don't you fix the errors you find when you find them rather than jotting them down and coming back later? GB fan 18:39, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    If you find an error, you should fix it. You should not rely on someone else to fix it in your place because no one else may have discovered the error. That is how Wikipedia works. Your line is more like complaining that no one is picking up litter while refusing to pick it up yourself. 24.149.117.220 (talk) 21:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The majority of my edits are to correct bad grammar and punctuation rather than facts. To put it bluntly, I am appalled at the illiteracy of some Wiki contributors. --P123cat1 (talk) 22:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    All experienced Wikipedia editors know there are many errors in our millions of articles. You are not revealing something we don't already know. I have fixed lots of errors when I saw them and probably added a few myself. Most readers are not editors. We have no way of telling how many people have noticed the errors you mention without fixing them, but I wouldn't call those errors blatant. Lots of people have a rarely used part of their name. If Dennis Kozlowski usually goes by that name or L. Dennis Kozlowski then how many people know whether his first name is Leo or Leonard, and how many of those who have heard Leo don't know whether it's short for Leonard? Regarding your 90% statement, most errors are actually fixed quickly, often within minutes. You should see that if you look for errors in Special:RecentChanges and then check the article a minute, hour or day later. When you see an error while browsing around, it will often be an error which has been there for a long time, because you are unlikely to view the article in the brief period where a quickly fixed error was present. If the error has already been there a long time then it's statistically likely to also remain for a long time (unless you fix it), and maybe it isn't as blatant to others as to you. Can you give examples where the stated reason for removing California Birth Index references was reliability? There are other reasons for removing a birth date with such a reference, especially privacy of living people. See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Avoid misuse of primary sources and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Privacy of personal information and using primary sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:48, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    picture

    Is this pic licence allowed here?

    http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/

    Mosfetfaser (talk) 06:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mosfetfaser: No, this does not count as a "free" license for Wikipedia because it does not allow commercial re-use. Any pictures with this license will have to be treated as non-free, usable only under strict conditions. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:53, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Super links User:John of Reading ta. The pic seems to comply with all those guidelines just this one seems vague, "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose" - no free pic is available, or it would already be in the article and as there is no free pic available one can't be created, so is a non free one acceptable, the pic is of a person in jail for ten years? Mosfetfaser (talk) 07:13, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Tried to do it according to the non free guidelines - File:Jeremy Hammond.jpg - Mosfetfaser (talk) 07:34, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    as a living person, there is no valid justification for using a non free image. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Universities in Malawi

    EXPLOITS UNIVERSITY

    http://www.exploitsuniversity.com

    You will fine information of this University here. It provides courses in the faculty of commerce. It is fast growing University in Malawi and has great reputation. Accredited in 2010 by the government

    Other news on the same university;

    http://mwnation.com/malawi-accredits-exploits-university/

    http://mwnation.com/exploits-university-galilee-management-institute-sign-mou/

    You can contact the Officers through the website and they will be able to help and also you can contact the Ministry of Education Malawi

    Thank you.

    Charlie Masiku

    http://mwnation.com/exploits-university-galilee-management-institute-sign-mou/

    http://mwnation.com/malawi-accredits-exploits-university/

    http://www.exploitsuniversity.com

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlie Masiku (talkcontribs)

    The proper place to suggest articles is at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Or if you'd like to create the article yourself, you might try Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Dismas|(talk) 07:09, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    lost

    I was trying to know if ore Ida ever make a wrist watch by Seiko Ive looked I cant find it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.26.177.83 (talk) 07:11, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    This is the Help Desk of Wikipedia. We answer questions about how to edit Wikipedia. If you'd like your question answered at the Reference Desk, please post it there. Though in its current form, I don't think you'll get an answer since Ore Ida is a company that makes potato products, not watches. Dismas|(talk) 07:30, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing errors on Draft:Dareysteel

    Reference help requested. i do not know how to fix the missing errors... please can someone help me.... thanks

    sorry i was little trying to fix something.... but i got the same problem again..... can someone help me ... thanks Thanks, Pepesalt (talk) 08:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Added {{reflist}}: Diff/600279819. --Glaisher [talk] 08:59, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit Sunbeam (car company)

    The Sunbeam Car Company Limited has registered and is unable to correct the main heading to remove bracket on car company) and change to Car Company with no brackets.

    We are also unable to upload the proper Sunbeam logo.

    http://tinypic.com/r/14e6g4p/8

    The Sunbeam Car Company Limited Please help.

    Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunbeam Car Company (talkcontribs) 10:57, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    See WP:DISAMBIGUATION for the reason for the bracketed part of the article title.--ukexpat (talk) 11:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The request is apparently not to change the title to Sunbeam (a disambiguation page) but to Sunbeam Car Company (currently a redirect to Sunbeam (car company). According to an edit today [2]: "In March 2014 the new Sunbeam Car Company Limited acquired the Sunbeam trademarks after lengthy discussions with PSA. The company plans to introduce a range of new vehicles from 1.0 to 2.0 litres. The sporting marque will continue to be involved in motorsport." However, there are no Google hits on "Sunbeam Car Company Limited" and "Sunbeam Car Company Ltd", and the article is currently about the historic Sunbeam cars which did not have the "Sunbeam Car Company" name. It seems premature to change the title. If a new owner of the "Sunbeam" name actually produces notable cars as "Sunbeam Car Company" then it may be reconsidered. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    If the new "Sunbeam Car Company" ever does become notable, I hope someone will create a new article about it, rather than allowing an agent of the new company to subvert the existing article, which is about the company founded in 1888. Maproom (talk) 14:53, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    It happens far too often that history is deleted in the course of "updating" articles. A new article about the new company is definitely preferable to "hijacking" an existing article that contains a lot of historical information. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:12, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I translated an article about Юрій Гаврилюк from Ukrainian to English how can I submit it

    This is not the place for a draft article

    Hawrylyuk, Yuri Ivanovych

    Yuri Hawrylyuk (September 2, 1964, Bilsk Pilias’ki, Poland) is a Ukrainian writer, photographer, historian, and journalist. He is a member of NSPU the National Writer’s Union of Ukraine.

    Education;

    He studied at the Jahelloneon University (Krakow, Poland 1990) and majored in history / archives. He was one of the organizers for the revival of the Ukrainian identity in Pidliasha movement, and founder of the Pidliasha Ukrainian publishing house “Dumka” (the thought) in 1983, He was editor and chief of the “New Beginnings (Basics) “Osnovy” from 1987-89 and other non-periodical publications. From 1989-1990 he was the co-founder of the “Krag” (?) bulletin in Polish. He worked in the Ukrainian Scientific and Cultural Center in Krakow from 1991-93 and was secretary of the executive board of the Pidliasha Union of Ukrainians from 1993-96. During this time he has been an editor of the “By the Huh and Narva” journal (magazine) since 1991 and editor and chief since 2001. He was president of the Pidliasha Publishers “Osbiva” frin 1193-98, and 2000-01. In the 1990’s he was published in various Ukrainian periodicals and journals titled “Ukrainian Memorials” “Historical Antiquities”, “Weekly Mirror”, “Ukrainian Week”, “The Daily”, Lviv Newspaper, “The Saturday Post” (Lviv) e.g.

    Hawryliuk is the author of an Anthology of Poems, “V nenpromumaj ….. Pokhodi” 1986, “Geneologies without the coat of arms, 1988,) both of Bilsk Pidlias’kiy, “ Voices of Piliasha” (Paris; L. Zwikau 1999) literary anthologies “Long Live Pidliasha; its experiences and thoughts” 2001, a book of writings (compositions) “ The Web of Life” 2004 - both in Bielsk Pidlas’kyj.

    He published a series of academic research papers about the history of Pidliasha and its ties to Ukraine. “Proposals for a Record of Pidliasha Dialects” known as “Hawryliukowytsia” (Bilsk Pidliaski 1988) “History of Pidliashian (Brest- Territories) in the 10th to 14th Centuries AD, (Hayniwka 1990) of Dziego > wooden< orthodox churches in Pidliasha from the 10th to the 17th Centuries AD. Bielsk Pidlias’ky 1993 “Kholm Region and Pidliasha” History and ethnic history of the region research paper (k. 1997)

    He was co-author of “Rus’ Territory Bielsk, Mielnyk, Drohiczyn” Rusyn-Ukrainians in Pidliasha, facts and controversial opinions “ Krakow 1999- Bielsk Pidlias’ky, 2001 “Pidliasha in the shadows of Rus’ (preszlosci ?) bielsk Pilias’ky 2000). Edited an anthology “Rus’ Pidliasha. Pidliasha in the writings of the Romantics” (Bielsk, 1995) and a collection called “Let’s sing Christmas Carols “ Bot;ky 1999 “Zakoliaduyemo Vsi Razom”

    During his studies, Juri was also interested in Photography. He had exhibits in Lviv (2008 Wasyl Pylypiuk Gallery) 2011 Lviv Museum of History and Religion, Toronto Ontario 2009, Green Mountains Poland 2009 and Bilostok, Poland 2009.

    Awards ( Honors) Medal of Honor for Merit of the 3rd degree from Ukraine. Sept. 2009


    [] Birth 9/2/1964 Place of birth Bilsk Pidlias’ky, Pidliasha, Poland Nationality (Heritage)(ethnicity) Ukrainian Citizenship Poland Languages Ukrainian, Pidliasha dialects, Polish Profession Author, Photographer, Historian, Journalist since 1981

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naples1972 (talkcontribs) 12:06, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    This is not the place for a draft article, so I have collapsed the display. Wikipedia:Translation tells you what you need to know about attribution of the original material from which you have made the translation. What you also do need to do is add references to published reliable sources to support the text. When you have done that, you can submit the draft at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Yuri Hawrylyuk by hitting the button that says "Submit your draft when you are ready for it to be reviewed!". I have added some useful links to your user talk page, including Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:28, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    date correction in an article

    I just wanted to bring to your attention an error in the article about the Grand Cetral Palace in New York City. The building opened in 1911 not 1913 as stated in your article. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/when-trade-shows-were-both-grand-and-central/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.2.182.220 (talk) 13:56, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    From reading the sources I believe you're correct. I've modified the article accordingly, see this diff [3]. CaptRik (talk) 15:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Biased article

    Anita Sarkeesian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    This is a letter of complaint. I am not using the talk page for this article as it is monitored by a person whom I believe to be biased. The page is that of Anita Sarkeesian. Despite the on line "harassment" suffered by her I would like to point our that there is a lot of justified, erudite, and not at all abusive, criticisms about her methods, methodology, "research" and conclusions. Given that wiki usually attempts to present material impartially I find the complete lack of any kind of opposing view in this article to smell a little too ripe. Normally the "critical reception" part of one of your articles gives positive and negative reviews. Given that I know there has been a lot of negative reviews of her work I have to ask the question - "where are they?". In fact - where is the critical reception part at all? The page stops at Awards and Recognition... As if no dissenting point of view exists. As if it couldn't possibly exist unless it was abusive... The whole thing is just one big propaganda page and it damages your integrity to allow it to exist with no redress. Agree with her or not, such a one sided article is beneath your dignity... Isn't it?

    From a female game developer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8RgbS9ESE

    Erudite criticism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJeX6F-Q63I&index=41&list=PLyup6hMz1qxWX4qmc85h8IqyEMppPedLU

    Peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deivos (talkcontribs) 14:04, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The talk page of the article is the correct place for any discussion. It is monitored by a large enough number of editors that there is no danger that any one editor's bias (if it exists) could overturn any consensus. Discussion elsewhere might be regarded as forum shopping, but of course having discussed at the talk page there are avenues for dispute resolution. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:15, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Deivos This has also been dealt with to death. The editors who don't like Sarkeesian keep presenting criticism from non-notable bloggers, non-notable podcasters, non-notable YouTubers, etc. The rejection of these sources have nothing to do with how "erudite" the voices are, rather that they are non-notable. The individuals who keep insisting that negative coverage of Sarkeesian be presented typically have an anti-Sarkeesian agenda, don't generally understand Wikipedia's rules surrounding biographical articles of living people and don't understand that Wikipedia requires coverage from reliable sources, not just erudite nobodies from the internet. To give a voice to fringe opinions is to provide undue weight to their opinions of detractors. And even when they finally find some sources that are reliable and mention some negative aspect of Sarkeesian, the subject matter is typically frivolous (example: the accusation that Sarkeesian/Feminist Frequency misappropriated fan art) to be worthy of inclusion. So, to be clear about this: Fringe opinions aren't typically noteworthy, the opinions of non-notable individuals aren't typically noteworthy, biographies of living people are to be held to a high standard, and Wikipedia isn't a scandal sheet. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:23, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    One edit left behind

    Dear editors. I accepted an Afc submission Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dale F. Rudd and it was moved to Dale F. Rudd and a redirect created as usual. However, for some reason, the last edit, the one in which I accepted the submission, was left behind in the history of the redirect. Is there any way to fix this up, or does it matter anyway? What would cause this? —Anne Delong (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Please provide an oldid link to the edit in question. As far as I can see, the only edit in the former page's history is this one, in which you created the redirect by moving the page. Such a redirect is created whenever anyone moves any page, except for when an admin moves a page without redirect, and that's basically a deletion situation. Nyttend (talk) 17:38, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    What you are seeing here is Anne having a little episode of fuzzy thinking. For some reason I didn't see in the mainspace article the edit in which I moved the page (it was there, though, just further back than I remembered), and when I saw the edit summary of the edit in the redirect I thought that that was it. I have managed to waste your time, and I apologize. —Anne Delong (talk) 00:51, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem; I was guessing the fuzzy thinking :-) I requested the oldid just in case I'd overlooked something myself. Had the history really been split, the fix would have been totally impossible for you, but trivial for an admin familiar with history merges. See Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves if you care about the details; in short, we delete one page, move the other page on top of it, and restore the deleted edits. This way, all the edits become part of the same page history, and they cannot be separated except by a reverse of the histmerge process. Sometimes this kind of reversal is necessary, and it too can be performed by deleting the page, restoring the revisions to be moved, moving them, and then restoring the remaining revisions. See the history of Medical abortion for the end result of this kind of activity; although you can't see them, there are five deleted revisions for the page, all of which involve changing a redirect target. Nyttend (talk) 01:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, doesn't that sound like fun? I have glanced over that page, but as you say I can't really make use of the information. Thanks again. —Anne Delong (talk) 02:00, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing the "Strains and Origins" section in "Kava"

    We have been trying to add a link to provide a citation within the Strains and Origin section within the subject- "Kava". Our link is to a free on line book published in Hawaii in 2006 - Hawaiian 'Awa Views of an Ethnobotanical Treasure. This is within the library section of the webpage- 'Awa Development Council. Each time we provide the link , within a few hours it is deleted. It is not copyrighted material. By inserting the link, are we doing something incorrect?75.233.49.215 (talk) 18:13, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    If you want to see why it was being reverted, look at the "History" tab on the article and read the edit summaries. The editor who reverted your edits referred you to WP:ELNO, so you need to read that. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank You. I went to WP:ELNO and see numerous potential reasons for reverting my edits. How can we find out specifically which one(s)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.233.157.82 (talk) 18:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    You had placed this reply in the section above, but I assume that you intended it to be here so I have moved it for you. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    If you really want to know what the reverting editor had in mind, you could ask him, but you would be better off just reading WP:ELNO and any necessary further links. It looks to me as if you were adding an external link when what you should have been adding was a reference, so try reading WP:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Re article

    We are kents only independent cadet unit, was wondering if it's possible to write about us on here ? Www.kmcf.co.uk

    Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.31.37 (talk) 19:44, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    In order to have a stand alone article, the subject must meet certain requirements, essentially that reliably published third party sources have covered the subject in a detailed manner. If you have evidence of such coverage, you can request that such an article be created. However as people with conflict of interest, you should not attempt to create or directly edit such an article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:03, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there a Wikiproject that discusses weightlifting?

    Dear editors: I wanted to report this draft article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jonathan Bernor to someone who can tell me if the powerlifting claims are accurate. I didn't find "weightlifting" or "powerlifting". Is this covered under another title? —Anne Delong (talk) 21:46, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:WikiProject Health and fitness is a possibility. Samwalton9 (talk) 22:01, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Athletics. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:02, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    How about Wikipedia:WikiProject Bodybuilding ? Smarkflea (talk) 23:24, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the suggestions. I will see if I can find an interested editor at one of these places. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    March 20

    History merge or content merge?

    Dear editors: I found this draft: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Monica De Coninck, but there is a little stub, Monica De Coninck. The histories don't overlap, but the content is mostly different. I'd like to (1) request that the draft be history merged into the stub, (2) copy the useful content into the stub, (3) add some references to the new material (I have found some). Is this appropriate in a situation that it isn't clear that the newer article is derived from the older one? Or should I do a somewhat messier content merge and redirect instead? —Anne Delong (talk) 00:41, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't hurt to perform a histmerge. They're very unhelpful when useful revisions overlap, so I'll leave out the revision in which you postponed G13, by not undeleting it. Otherwise, we'd end up with a "diff" showing you replacing the article with the AFC. Nyttend (talk) 17:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Nyttend; I have moved some content, added some references, and notified Wikiproject Belgium for a checkup. Leaving out my edit is fine; having edits deleted is a regular event for Afc reviewers. (I've lost over 10,000 so far, what's one more?) —Anne Delong (talk) 19:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding photo to Wikipedia Article

    Hello I am trying to add a photo to a Wikipedia article about John Kearney Bishop of Ossory. I made an account but it requires you to have 10 edits in order to upload photos, since this was the only thing I wanted to edit was this page by adding a photo I was wondering if there was another way to have one photo uploaded. I looked into some instructions about submitting a request and it went into licensing information that I didn't understand. On the wikipedia page there is a link that leads you to the website where there is a picture of the oil canvas that I wanted to add to the article and I was hoping I could get some information or help about uploading this photo, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.31.136 (talk) 02:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I assume that the article you want to add an image to is John Kearney (bishop). Where, at present, is the image you want to add? Maproom (talk) 07:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    On his wikipedia page the first external link leads you to the Trinity College Dublin website and there on his page is the image I'd like to add. The painting is by William Cuming.I'd like to add that image to where according to wikipedia an info box would go or something along those lines (In the top left-hand corner) or the first image you would see if you went to his page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenmeyer2013 (talkcontribs) 16:41, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    That shouldn't have been listed as an external link as it is already a ref, but it's still there as ref 2. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    So it's the image at this link. The painting itself is out of copyright, but I have no reason to believe that the photograph of it is not protected by copyright. My understanding of copyright law is not good, but I suspect that the image is not acceptable for use in Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 17:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Okay so that specific picutre is not allowed to be put on wikipedia? I found another photo at this link http://www.turtlebunbury.com/published/published_features/pub_feats_obama.html if you scroll down the article a little bit you'll see it on the left, would that photo be okay? There's some slight differences from the other one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenmeyer2013 (talkcontribs) 18:18, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    At the foot of the page to which you directed it says "© Turtle Bunbury 2005-2014. All rights reserved". --David Biddulph (talk) 18:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    So back to the first article, I didn't see an all rights reserved at the bottom of the Trinity College's website page on John Kearney so would the photo that I originally mentioned be alright to use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenmeyer2013 (talkcontribs) 19:31, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    just because a painting looks old, does not mean that it is old. so unless you know the provenance of that picture, do not assume that it is out of copyright. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:41, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Reporting a Fake (History) Article

    I have come across an article that was filled with historical inaccuracies and that was made primarily by a community/caste to help uplift their social status by the looks of it. The references provided on the article do not come from valid sources, how do I report such articles that are very closely monitored by the community? Ajan — Preceding undated comment added 03:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The talk page of the article in question is the correct place to start a discussion on the content of the article. There are other venues as well if the discussion there is non-productive because of editors acting contrary to Wikipedia guidelines (see, for example, Wikipedia:Dispute resolution). But if you mentioned something like that here, you should at least mention which article you have concerns about, so that we could go take a look. Rwessel (talk) 05:31, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    if it is about the castes of India, Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics is a good place to start to bring attention to your concerns to a wider audience of people who are familiar with such issues and how to address them according to Wikipedia's policies. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Video games! Boy I worked in the Video Game Business for 25 years. You are missing quite a few games 1990 and down.

    I started working for Nintendo NES we were merchandisers hired by Worlds of Wonder makers of Teddy Ruxpin, Laser Tag (Batteries not included) in the commercial. I was responsible For Santa Barbara South to San Diego, had a few people reporting to me and one day we got a NES and 1 of each nintendo game shipped to each of us at the release of the machine with their then library of games. We called on National Chains and Toys R Us and we merchandised the Accounts, cleaning inventory, changing broken boxes and fixing the Teddy Players that were on ENDCAPS in every Toys R Us, Broke frequently. We would change fuses and get them up and running again. Reviewed new releases with store staff or manager. From there I went to Softkat then a division of WR Grace where we sold into schools originally and when I started in Key National accounts we were the leader in home, education and entertainment software. I remember when Ad lib Sound Cards which was the first sound card leader before Creative Labs. I remember the day Creative came in and they were playing piano on a keyboard! in with a piano playing card with software which I said for $500 no way could I sell that. The sound card at the time was selling for $99 they left pretty mad and competed and Killed poor AdLib. We launched Knowledge Adventure and its first Encarta type product the day before COMDEX where we had a booth representing paying publishers and all the computer games that shipped on console were also being shipped on PC as it was quicker and cheaper w/o middlemen console manufacturers You are missing QUITE a FEW GAMES! Wow! I can help the only thing I am not 100 0/0 sure on is release dates. I guess I can google each game. I use to handwrite my orders weekly to Compusa ( Soft Wearhouse) it was first called with 2 stores Dallas and Atlanta. I grew that account so I know exactly what they sold in the game category. They pretty much killed Egghead Software. There was Electronic Boutique and Babbage's, Walden Books and Software Etc. We also had the Govt. contract to sell to AFFES ( Air Force) stores on bases throughout the world. When I left in early 90's CompUSA was tied with AFFES in sales. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.74.87.137 (talk) 05:10, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    As a work in progress, Wikipedia is missing a lot of things! You can help by providing reliably published sources that verify the products you have listed. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, there is a Video Games "Wikiproject", check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games .Naraht (talk) 15:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Table sorting

    How can you sort the first column of List of recluses by last name? Clarityfiend (talk) 05:31, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    See: Help:Sorting#Specifying a sort key for a cell  (I haven't tried this, so you're on your own)  ~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 06:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    ronnie montrose

    Hi my name is Lynette Lewis and I was married to ronnie montrose. He had 5 wifes 1. Jill 2. Becky 3 Michele and 4 was me Lynette Lewis The 5th wife and last he was not married for long (Leizha) Lynette Lewis-Montrose — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.136.160.161 (talk) 06:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    to include information we must have a reliably published source that verifies the content. If you have such a source such as a report in a book or newspaper, you can provide it on the articles talk page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:01, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Charlie Watts - IMDb reference

    I have amended the "External Links" section of the Wiki article on Charlie Watts (Rolling Stones) to include an IMDb reference. I notice he is the only member of the band not to have an IMDb reference in their biography. I hope its omission here was an oversight and not CW's express wish. --P123cat1 (talk) 11:16, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia rather discourages references to IMDb, as it regards it as not altogether a reliable source. I am sure the omission was not at CW's wish, as it is Wikipedia's policy to disregard the wishes of subjects of articles. Maproom (talk) 11:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    There is confusion about terminology here. You added the IMDb link in the external links section and that is allowed. We only call something a reference if it is used as source of information for content in the article. You didn't do that so the edit is OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks. You learn something new every day in Wiki editing. --P123cat1 (talk) 12:51, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    The explanation here WP:EL is for each external link to ask: Does this external link provide valuable information about the subject of this article that cannot be included in the article? (not: Does everybody else have this external link?) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Got it. Thanks, TRPoD. --P123cat1 (talk) 22:12, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    How to include a signature in a template

    I am trying to create a WikiProject invitation template but I'm struggling to get it to include a signature. Take a look at my attempt Draft:WP Disability Invite and see where I'm going wrong. Obviously I don't want the ~~~~ code to actually execute in the template page itself, it should only create the signature when someone posts the template to a User Talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:05, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    If the template is only for subst'ing then you can use ~<includeonly>~~</includeonly>~. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:48, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, could you explain that more fully, or just go ahead and edit the page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:33, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Roger if you want a signature in your template, the template will have to be SUBSTituted wherever it is used. What I personally use to add signatures to templates is ~~<noinclude />~~ which functionally does the exact same thing as PrimeHunter's example above except that it uses a few less bits in the template's code itself and when transcluded it shows all four tildes. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 13:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! The template has been created. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:21, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Is the above wikiproject still active or not . It has Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Canadian politicians as it's monthly focus since past 4 months. Moreover the no. of missing Canadian politicians has been 49 since past 4 months. Is there any other active member associated with this project.--Skr15081997 (talk) 12:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Sandbox page history

    Hello all,
    Today I decided to create a new article, Massif des Brasses. I had been working on it in my sandbox and so decided to simply move my sandbox page to the new title. However, all the revisions I had done as tests before I started writing the article are still there. What is the correct course of action here- oversight, undo, or leave the junk revisions as they are? Passengerpigeon (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    They aren't really causing a problem, but if you really want to get rid of them, let me know what you'd like the first edit to be and I'll take them out of the history for you. Yunshui  14:06, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't want to oversight the revisions, I was just wondering if the history of the sandbox could be split and moved back to my sandbox page, and the history relating to the development of the Massif des Brasses article could be kept where it is. If not, just leave it. Passengerpigeon (talk) 14:09, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I think I can do that, it's sort of like a complicated history merge. Where do you want to split the revisions? Yunshui  14:13, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, on reflection I'm not so sure; I think that would require the page to exist in two places at the same time. Let me have a think about it. Yunshui  14:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I would like everything before this edit (Revision as of 08:13, 12 March 2014) to be moved to User:Passengerpigeon/sandbox, and anything after that to be left on Massif des Brasses. Thanks, Passengerpigeon (talk) 14:17, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    I've just tried doing the same sort of thing in my sandbox and it seems to work, so here goes... *lowers welding mask, sparks up acetylene torch* Yunshui  14:23, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Already done it... BencherliteTalk 14:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    ...and Bencherlite did it while I was messing about with test pages... Yunshui  14:25, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    ...and somehow beat me to the reply here without an edit conflict. Think I'll go and make a cup of tea. Yunshui  14:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry for jumping in, but I've done this before and when you said you weren't sure I thought it would just be easier to get on and do it rather than comment here first! Enjoy your tea. BencherliteTalk 14:28, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Passengerpigeon (talk) 14:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    @Passengerpigeon, for future reference, it's best to start a new article in a clean new sandbox page that has no previous history. Example; User:Passengerpigeon/First article title and User:Passengerpigeon/Second article title. When your draft has been moved you can have the now redundant sandbox deleted by placing {{db-user}} on it. I've created dozens of articles like this, starting in a clean new sandbox every time. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Variation in birth/death dates

    There's got to be a policy on this somewhere, but I'm damned if I can find it. What's the correct procedure when one has multiple sources which disagree about a person's birth and death dates? Assume for the sake of argument that the sources in question are equally reliable. Thanks in advance, Yunshui  14:03, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    As a compromise could you put a range in, per MOS:DOB? CaptRik (talk) 14:09, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    MOS:DOB, that's what I was looking for. Thanks CaptRik. Clearly I need to write more biographies if i can't even remember that shortcut! Yunshui  14:12, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Cannot compare seleted revisions?

    I cannot compare seleted revisions at:User:Vanjagenije since the results seem to be overlayed by a box. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AVanjagenije&diff=586178503&oldid=586175357 Just curious since I have never experienced this before. X14:47, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    A diff will normally display the page below the diff but this page uses position:absolute to always position content at the top. You can see the diff without rendering the page by adding &diffonly=yes to the url as in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AVanjagenije&diff=586178503&oldid=586175357&diffonly=yes. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:53, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    The recommended way in url's appears to be diffonly=1 but either will work, and possibly anything other than diffonly=0. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    If there is no value at all, it also acts like a 0. But 00 acts like yes and 1.Naraht (talk) 15:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    new article questions

    Hello,

    I joined Wikipedia to make a publicity page for my book. I own the copyrights to it and it also has a website, but I read that I cannot make a page about something that I own. Is this correct and if so, why?
    Knight xenon
    Knight xenon (talk) 14:51, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia - it isn't here to provide 'publicity pages'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Some of the applicable policies are detailed at WP:NOTADVERT and WP:COI. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Two articles Mansi Tiwari and Amit shankar had been proposed for deletion for not having reference to a reliable source .Now references have been added to them by their creators or interested editors .Can I remove the BLP Prod tag from them .--Skr15081997 (talk) 16:28, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Per Wikipedia:BLPPROD#Objecting, if at least one source has been added then the articles can be detagged. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 16:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Someone has added a bunch of links, but are you sure there are any reliable sources among those links? (in addition, both appear to be WP:TOOSOON and in need of serious copyedit before being anywhere near "presentable")-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    You ought to look at WP:Referencing for beginners to see how it's done. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:40, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Citations

    Whey I put my citations into the ===reference=== section they appear on the preview page as [1], [2], and so on instated of the written out citation. How do I fex this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylorsitorius (talkcontribs) 18:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Immediately above your list of references is a note that says:
    <!--- After listing your sources please cite them using inline citations and place them after the information they cite. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:REFB for instructions on how to add citations. ---> .
    I suggest that you read WP:REFB for instructions on how to add citations, and place them after the information they cite. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Physics problem

    Emeka packed by the side of an east-ward road is watching a car 'p' which is moving west-ward direction, John driving east at a speed of 52km/hr watching thesame car. Take the east-ward direction as positive direction. a)if Emeka measure a speed of 78km/hr for car p what velocity with John measure show the corresponding velocity diagram — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.210.248.44 (talk) 19:16, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Please do your own homework.
    Welcome to the Wikipedia Help Desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misinterpretation, but it is our aim here not to do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn nearly as much as doing it yourself. Please attempt to solve the problem or answer the question yourself first. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, feel free to tell us where you are stuck and ask for help. If you need help grasping the concept of a problem, by all means let us know. You might also consider asking for specific help at the Reference Desk, as the Help Desk deals with questions related to Wikipedia editing. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Pictures + Publishing

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Cross and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Cross_(Canada) need to be made into one page. Info on the second page is wrong and needs to be fixed soonest. For example # awarded is 0 on one page and 1354 on the other.

    Thanks and have a good day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.137.245.206 (talk) 21:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    They're officially different; there's officially a separate VC for Canada. It's new enough that it's not been awarded to this point. Nyttend (talk) 21:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    uploading images

    How do I add in images that are saved on my PC? I've been editing a sandbox article, how do I publish it with a custom name when I'm done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KS11221 (talkcontribs) 21:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard and Wikipedia:Moving a page. Basically the down arrow at the top of the page by the search bar. CTF83! 23:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    (1) Upload them to Wikipedia or (preferably) Wikimedia Commons under an acceptable licence, then add the filename to the article. Guidance at Wikipedia:Uploading images and Wikipedia:Image tutorial. (2) See Wikipedia:Your first article. Unless you include some references to substantial coverage of the subject in independent reliable sources, there is no point moving the article to mainspace. It will almost certainly be deleted quickly because of a failure to establish notability. You also need to ensure the language is neutral. Promotional text isn't acceptable. Karenjc (talk) 23:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]