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Welcome to the Education Program Incidents page.

This page is for reporting and discussing specific incidents related to student editing and/or the Education Program on the English Wikipedia that require the intervention of experienced editors and/or administrators.

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Unresponsive classrooms or those editing with poorly managed or structured courses
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Wharton Business School course project?

See this section at ANI. Voceditenore (talk) 15:52, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Medical students in Barcelona

There has been a spate of new user accounts this month, all part of a class named BQUB14 (see [1]). According to User talk:Jytdog#students, they are all members of a particular class at the School of Medicine at the University of Barcelona. They have been turned loose on Wikipedia to edit various articles on proteins and such, with widely mixed results, and at least one page protection arising from edit warring.

I have reached out to one of the students to see if I can learn the name of the instructor. If so, I will recommend this instructor to read up on WP:SUP. Any other actions that the regulars of this noticeboard can suggest? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:55, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting this! Users include BQUB14-Asegui, BQUB14-Iabad, BQUB14-Agrabosky, BQUB14-Mnezcollado, BQUB14-Ccarmona, BQUB14-Lbusquets, BQUB14-Martigues, BQUB14-Ebuades (really bad, edit warring led to page protection), BQUB14-Lpuig. I have asked a few times for them to talk more and for them to get their instructor to contact us too. Their assignment is apparently due Friday so the next few days might get a bit more intense with them. Jytdog (talk) 13:05, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@LiAnna (Wiki Ed): I know that in the past, WMF folks have been very helpful in communicating with educational institutions in situations such as this one. Perhaps you or one of the other people who work with you could reach out to the University of Barcelona School of Medicine. Thanks! --Tryptofish (talk) 17:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't work for WMF anymore, but here's the people who do! @AKoval (WMF), FKoudijs (WMF), and TFlanagan-WMF: Can you help connect this class to the education efforts already happening in Barcelona? --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:01, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Woops, I confounded WMF and Wiki Ed. This stuff is over my head, sorry! Maybe WikiDan61, Jytdog, or Kingofaces43 could help with that connection about Barcelona, since they are the editors who have actually been observing the edits in question. I was just trying to help connect them to staff people who could help. Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:42, 24 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the students involved are completely non-communicative. I've asked to be put in touch with their instructor to no avail. The one communication that we were able to get out of them was that their assignment was due today, so we might hope that the issue will blow over and the damage can be repaired. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 01:52, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There has definitely been odd behavior. I recently reverted an edit at RAB6A. Not long after I had that edit thanked by the user I reverted, only to have to them re-revert again. I'm not sure if something isn't getting across or what, but interacting with these students seems like it will be tough either way. Seems like getting a hold of the professor or at least watching pages closely until the due date has passed at least (hopefully) seem to be the only options at this point. Kingofaces43 (talk) 19:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

After pleading on the editors' and article's talk pages, there has been some progress with FERMT3. The student are now at least adding in-line citations. We clearly need to contact the instructor. Boghog (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to help out there as well. While they are at least starting to use citations, we're running into issues typical of student projects where it seems like they are writing a report rather than writing a Wikipedia article for a general audience. They're definitely moving too quickly for new users, but I'll see what I can tweak there to help out. Kingofaces43 (talk) 17:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for all this hassle. I will contact the Amical people in Barcelona and see if they can help out talking to the students or the instructor. Thanks for keeping an eye out! FKoudijs (WMF) (talk) 16:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, first of all thanks for your patience and for bringing this up. As an m:Amical Wikimedia member I must say this project is not part of one of our collaborations but we are trying to get in touch with the teacher to help him/her to improve their edits. I've contacted one of the students who answer your advices directly in Catalan language, hoping he/she puts me through their teacher. As we are doing other educational projects with the University of Barcelona, I'll try to send some emails to our collaborators to try to touch them IRL. I'll be back with some information as soon as i get it. Thanks again ;)--Kippelboy (talk) 05:31, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again: I've contacted Amical members and volunteers who have done edu projects with this Faculty of the University of Barcelona. None of them knows the teacher but we have found that it already happened in Catalan wiki some time ago [2] and [3]. One of the volunteers who do edu projects told that he will contact "his project teacher" to see if our contact can discover who is the teacher of the BQUB students. Please give me some days. --Kippelboy (talk) 15:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update: We've reached the teacher. He is a teacher of the Medicine Dept of the University of Barcelona. We are now arranging a meeting with him in real life so we can both know how to best collaborate with each other and how to better do an educational project on EN, ES and CA wikis. Thank you all for your time and patience.--Kippelboy (talk) 06:17, 3 November 2014 (UTC) (on behalf of Amical Wikimedia)[reply]

Information Management for Business (IMB) at University College London

A rather poor edit to Cult brand from an editor whose talk page says "... is currently studying Information Management for Business (IMB) at University College London (UCL). The assignment given was to edit a Wikipedia article on the topic of Cult Brands." PamD 15:56, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@ToniSant: Flagging this for you! --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:04, 23 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @LiAnna (Wiki Ed):! Let's see whether the campus ambassador at UCL (@Raya.sharbain:) can take a closer look. --ToniSant (talk) 14:52, 1 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a class at Animal testing

They have shown up at that page making mostly useless edits that have been mostly reverted, in a manner that looks like an unidentified class project. Not a big deal to revert them, and I'm about to message their talk pages, but I figured I would note it here. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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