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January 13

Shouldn't this category be a sub-category?

When reviewing categories for an article was was working on recently, I discovered that the category "Crime in Melbourne" appears to be a stand-alone, with its own sub-categories. However, there is a sub-category "Crime in Australia" under "Crime by country" (itself under "Crime"), with no link between to the Melbourne category.
There is also a "Crime by city" category under "Crime", which has sub-categories "Crime in France by City", etc. Does this need some linking and/or rationalisation? Also, there doesn't seem to be a suitable category for Youth Crime, as far as I can see. Any ideas? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 01:42, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@Laterthanyouthink: I don't know where you are looking. Category:Crime in Melbourne displays three parent categories at the bottom. One of them is Category:Crime in Australia by city which has the parent categories Category:Crime in Australia and Category:Crime by city. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Oh, I do apologise. I realise now why I was confusing myself - I was looking at categories on Wikimedia on a couple of tabs and Wikipedia on others, and the structure is different between the two. Also going down from top to bottom with some and vice versa with others, and may have missed the categories listed at the bottom. (I haven't got to grips fully with Categories and trying to browse a few to see how they were structured.) Thanks for your help. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Very Old Speedy Deletion Requests

What, if anything, should an editor do on finding a draft that has been tagged for G7, speedy deletion by its originator for more than a month? Is speedy deletion facilitated by the assignment of categories to the tagged pages? If so, do very old taggings, or taggings in the previous calendar year, drop out of view? Robert McClenon (talk) 05:32, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Would it be appropriate to remove the tag and then re-apply it to change the date on it? Robert McClenon (talk) 05:32, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Can you point to the page you're referring so as to see what actually happened? Pages tagged with {{Db-G7}} or its redirects are placed in the Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as well as Category:Candidates for speedy deletion by user. I doubt, if any can stay for full month without being actioned, but cannot rule it out. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:20, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

User:Ammarpad - It is Draft:Wes Yee. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:07, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Interesting. In looking at it, it appears that it is marked with the template but it isn't actually in the category. Hmmm. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:10, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

It appears that User:Adam9007 and I tangled with each other trying to fix it. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

It was a malformed CSD request (they substituted the template). There was a discussion about this a while back but I can't remember where or when. Adam9007 (talk) 19:14, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

It looks as if the editor in question substed {{db-meta}} with the right parameters. Interestingly enough, that template does not include Module:Unsubst to avoid such substitutions. Pinging the module's creator Anomie to please check whether that should be rectified. Regards SoWhy 19:34, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

A search on insource:"as a page where the author of the only substantial content has requested deletion and/or blanked the page in good faith" in all namespaces finds 29 other occurrences. Those I examined were all tagged with VisualEditor in the edit where the request was made, e.g. [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I fixed this, and I think the template should be forced to not be substituted, since it always shouldn't. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Publicness of thanks

As I look through the history of a page, for each edit I am given the option of thanking the perp (even if the perp is myself). If I click on "thank", I'm asked "Publicly send thanks?", to which question I must choose between two options, "Thank" and "Cancel". I choose the former (and am reassured "thanked"). The specific thankee (?) will see my thanks, but in what sense are my thanks public? (Can I, for example, see a list of thanks recently expressed or received by an editor other than myself?) -- Hoary (talk) 08:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Here is everyone you've thanked and everyone who's thanked you. The public information is who has thanked whom and when, not the exact edit for which thanks were given. ‑ Iridescent 08:55, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Well well. What can I say, Iridescent, other than "thank you"? Oh, I know, I can publicly send thanks to you. Have done! -- Hoary (talk) 09:22, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Volker Bräutigam

Hi, I made a mistake when I linked this article to the original German page which is a disambiguation one. Can someone please correct the error? It should lead to Volker Bräutigam (Komponist). Thanks in advance; LouisAlain (talk) 09:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Done, at wikidata:Q1437213. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:04, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, the sort of magic that is beyond my means. LouisAlain (talk) 10:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

The easy way was through the left-hand menu on your new page: Languages: Add links. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:37, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: CPRS - Burn victims or skin problems

I am Stefan Benedyka, a qualified multi skilled natural therapist. For CPRS or any skin/burn treatment I recommend a bath filled with aloe vera gel or cactus liquid. The patient is immersed into this bath and the bath is inside a hyperbaric chamber. The atmospheric pressures slowly increased according to the tolerance levels of the client. I hope this information can be disseminated to the medical profession internationally. Thank you. Stefan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.240.235.4 (talk) 16:40, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Stefan. I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not (paradoxically) an organ for disseminating information. It is an encyclopaedia: it summarises information which has already been reliably published. --ColinFine (talk) 17:43, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

DIAMONDOMINO

I SUBMITTED MY NEW 20 PIECE PUZZLE SET CALLED DIAMONDOMINO & WAS TOLD IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE TO USE YOUR ENCYCLOPEDIA FOR THIS ITEM. HOWEVER : YOU HAVE AN EXTENSIVE ARTICLE CALLED PENTOMINOES (12 SQUARE SHAPED PIECES )WHICH IS THE FORE RUNNER OF MY DESIGN (20 DIAMOND SHAPED PIECES). NOW I SEE THAT IT IS IN YOUR ARCHIVE LISTING # 8.1. IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET MY DIAMONDOMINO ITEM PROPERLY LISTED? CHARLES H. CHECKLEY? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:198:C17F:ECD0:B145:1D7A:A554:64DC (talk) 16:50, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Please don't write in block capitals; it is considered to be shouting on the internet. Pentominoes have been studied and written about for many years, so it is entirely appropriate to have an article about them. Wikipedia may not be used to publicise a new puzzle. You need to use other media for your marketing, but if your puzzle is eventually written about in WP:Reliable sources, then it might eventually get an article, but not until then. Sorry to disappoint you. Dbfirs 17:22, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

You have been already told to not use Wikipedia as means of promotion. You promotional request has been previously hidden from a view at Special:Permalink/838902098#Promotional requests, and it will probably happen to this request, too. I also requested removal of your ad at User:Charles H. Checkley/sandbox/INVENTION OF DIAMONDINO BY CHARLES H. CHECKLEY. If you continue spamming Wikipedia with your invention, you're likely to get blocked from editing here. --CiaPan (talk) 18:25, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I've posted a final warning and COI info on his talk page, next occurrence he should be blocked Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

unreasonable edits and statements from other Wikipedia

I would like to report unreasonable edits made by user Mussav on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohanad_Ali page the user also noted the reasons were because "unrealible source based on defamed site and defamed author" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha6a (talk • contribs) 17:31, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@Alpha6a and Mussav: You would both be well advised to stop edit warring and continue the discussion at the article's talk page. It is important to link to reliable sources in support of basic biographical information: Bhunacat10 (talk), 18:22, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you User:Bhunacat10 can you please look at the page and see if there is any reason for removing what I have added, when I have included three sources and one is even a national papaer Newssabah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha6a (talk • contribs) 18:25, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Sorry User:Alpha6a, I don't read Arabic. I'm just advising you both to stop editing the article now, as edit warring can lead to your being blocked from editing: Bhunacat10 (talk), 18:33, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

But how is this fair? And it is not in Arabic but in English also, he has removed the whole sentence and without any reason. Please have a look and see. User:Bhunacat10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha6a (talk • contribs) 18:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Please User:Bhunacat10 can you help?

Can you please have a look at this page and see if user Mussav is being reasonable with his removal of my edits. I included one source from a national Iraqi newspaper newssabah which notes "Police Club beat Industry by a goal to nil with the goal from Hassan Ali, the same player himself (Mohanad Ali), who scored two years ago as Asia's top scorer for the Under 14s which was held in the Iranian city of Hamdan after scoring 6 goals in 5 matches!" This clearly indicates the change of name. http://newsabah.com/newspaper/61585 I do not understand why this was removed, this is a national newspaper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha6a (talk • contribs) 18:42, 13 January 2019 (UTC) Template:Alpha6a

I did not add any unreliable sources based on tweets and speculations and this is a falsehood from the user Mussav I added sources from Ahdaafme, Kooora forums and Iraqi national newspaper newssabah (talk —Preceding undated comment added 18:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:_reported_by_User:Mussav_(Result:_) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpha6a (talk • contribs) 18:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

This is the help desk. Volunteers here are not interested in intervening in content disputes. Content disputes should be resolved on the article's talk page, and it that fails, then proceed as outlined in WP:DISPUTE, where you will find volunteers who are in fact interested in helping resolve disputes. -Arch dude (talk) 02:53, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ 78.120.205.191 (talk • contribs) 2019-01-13T20:00:55 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. According to your edit summary, you appear to have been trying to add an entry to Gray (surname); but the only thing you managed to add to the article was an empty pair of <ref></ref> tags, which I have undone. Please note that disambiguation pages like that one are for navigating Wikipedia, so the only entries they should contain are links to existing Wikipedia articles. Only if somebody writes an article about that Alan Gray (assuming he is notable in Wikipedia's sense - if he isn't, then it is impossible to write an acceptable Wikipedia article about him) can a link be added to the disambiguation page. --ColinFine (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

References

Question about user

The account User:Well educated male from Europe was apparently created about two hours ago, and its very first contributions were to write on my talk page commenting on my old redirects that were currently placed under RfD. It seems the account was created solely for this purpose. Is this a legitimate use of Wikipedia accounts? If not, what can be done about it? JIP | Talk 22:04, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

JIP, I've looked at the edits, and I don't think in themselves that they merit any action beyond what you have said you will do. Creating an WP:SPA I don't think is automatically a breach of our rules, although it's often associated with sock puppetry or spamming, which are. I don't think that you will get a CU check or WP:SPI on the basis of the postings so far, and I can't see any basis on which I would act against the account. It's irritating, but you may have to grin and bear it. Also, if I were you, I'd be bold and delete those dubious redirects myself instead of going to RfD, it's unlikely anyone will object. Sorry if this seems unsupportive Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

how do i report a fraud by bannerbit.

how do i report fraud against banner bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.49.130 (talk) 22:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

This page is for asking for help with using Wikipedia only. I'm afraid you will have to seek assistance with your matter elsewhere. 331dot (talk) 22:39, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

If you think there is incorrect information in a Wikipedia article, then raise the issue on that article's talk page. If you are associated with the subject, do not edit the article directly. If you are not associated with the subject and if the information is not referenced to a reliable source, then edit the article and delete the incorrect assertion. If you believe an assertion is incorrect but it is referenced to a reliable source, do not delete it, but if it is contested in another reliable source, add that fact and the reference to the article."Fraud" is a term of law. Do not assert fraud: it implies a legal threat. An editor who makes a legal threat will be blocked from editing and should pursue the matter outside of Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 02:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Tool for quickly copying media from Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons to another wiki?

Jimbo just asked the following question on his talk page: "I wonder if anyone here knows of a tool for quickly copying media (images mainly) from Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons to another (non-WMF) wiki, in such a way that automatically follows best practices for attribution?"[2]

Does anyone know of such a tool? --Guy Macon (talk) 22:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@Guy Macon and Jimbo Wales: I believe the Export tool (and corresponding Import) does the job. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 01:39, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Having a look at export dumps, it quite easily preserves attribution, but doesn't seem to include the actual content of an image. Running some tests, it'll preserve the attribution of the description (if you select to keep all revisions), but the image needs uploading seperately. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 01:59, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Super interesting, thanks! InstantCommons seems relevant as well.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 17:23, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

January 14

Chris Helmsworth

Please correct the spelling of his name. I can’t edit it and it’s not right. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.23.98.79 (talk) 00:41, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Where do you see that spelling? I get zero search hits in WIkipedia and it's not in Chris Hemsworth. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:03, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

...unless thought you did, that Chris Helmsworth was the spelling right, (sounds nice, but not it is)... Don't worry, it's a mistake even media houses like Forbes commit. Lourdes 03:30, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I need to delete my pages

Hello, 3 months ago i created 2 wiki pages about myself as a joke and put a photo on them as a joke. These 2 photos are now on google images and i want to take them down. Could you please take down my pages and the photos from google images.

Kind regards, Darko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkogolub (talk • contribs) 02:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@Darkogolub: For us to take action, you will need to tell us which pages. However, When you put those photos up, you explicitly relased them under a CC-BY-SA license, which allows anybody to use them. "Anybody" includes Google. We have no control over Google's use of these photos: You will need to contact Google. We are all volunteers, so your "joke" will force unpaid volunteers to use up valuable time that would otherwise be spent improving Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 02:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@Darkogolub: Your contribution history only shows your edit to this page as well as to your now-deleted sandbox. If you created other pages about yourself, you did it while logged out or using another account, so we will be unable to help you unless you state what pages you are referring to. As noted, we can't do anything about Google using your photos. You might want to take this as a lesson learned, learning not to joke around, on a global encyclopedia edited by thousands of people and viewed by millions of people, by creating pages about yourself and posting pictures of yourself. This is not social media. In general you should treat the Internet as a public street corner and conduct yourself accordingly. 331dot (talk) 02:44, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@Darkogolub: c:File:Darko Golub.jpg was deleted from Commons at your request there as an unused selfie. But that doesn't necessarily get it off Google. —teb728 t c 08:02, 14 January 2019 (UTC) Google shows a personal profile on the Commons file description page. The Commons delinker log does not show any activity for the deletion. Is that profile perhaps the only "article"? —teb728 t c 08:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Deleting or modifying a word or phrase of an in-box contents

I want to delete the word 'incumbent' in a in-box of the page for Lee Jin-sung, a former president of the Constitutional Court of Korea as he retired last year. I would be grateful if you let me know how to change/edit the inbox contents. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Park Chul Min (talk • contribs) 05:48, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

It needed |term_end= following the date of 'term end' (as the name might imply). I've done it for you this time. — regards, Revi 07:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

How do I get an article out of Sandbox?

How I get an article out of Sandbox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leahernandez1 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Your starting point is to read the advice at WP:Your first article, then go away and find published reliable sources to demonstrate that the subject is notable in Wikipedia's terms. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

See your talk page as well. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 11:19, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Animation speed

Hi. What I as an user can do for animations I find annoyingly quick moving? I have a gut feeling they are more common in my own language wikipedia than here but anyway, is it about my personal settings, sub-project local settings or just a random choice of the animation creator?--J. Sketter (talk) 11:19, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@J. Sketter: If the case is animated GIF images, you can see the GIF#Animated GIF section. If you seek words next frame you'll find that the time between consecutive frames (images) of the animation is hardcoded in the image file. I can imagine a possibility that web browser application could have some parameter to slow down animations by scaling that factor, but I have never found one myself. As a result, the speed of GIF animation is defined by the file's creator and not modifiable.
AFAIR in Internet Explorer pressing the Esc key used to stop all GIF animations – but there was no keypress to re-activate it, and I always needed to reload a page to see stopped animations working again. --CiaPan (talk) 12:39, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Policies and guidelines

To what extent do guidelines supersede policies? My understanding is that guidelines supplement policies but do not supersede them; am I wrong? But here there is a heated debate where the participants argue past each other: Half interpret the article title policy to say that the article title should be taken from the common name if there is one. The other half interpret the naming guideline for astronomical objects as saying that the official name should be used if there is one, and an unofficial common name should not be used. At least one participant says explicitly that the guideline supersedes the policy.

Is this the right place for this question? —teb728 t c 12:17, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

pls see Wikipedia:The difference between policies, guidelines and essays.--Moxy (talk) 12:38, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, that's very helpful. —teb728 t c 10:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

How to change image in an article when two images share the same name?

I want to replace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Keshav_Puram_metro_station.jpg with https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keshav_Puram_metro_station.jpg as the first one is not image of the station but a platform of the same station(all platform on delhi metro are very similar) so the second image will be certainly more helpful. The target article is Keshav Puram metro station. If you have time please replace the image or tell me how to do it. Thanks Tuwein (talk) 12:37, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@Tuwein: I moved the image to File:Platform at Keshav Puram metro station.jpg which means the Commons image will now appear as File:Keshav Puram metro station.jpg here. Regards SoWhy 12:57, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Interesting that the history at the platform file name doesn't mention the old name, and the history at File:Keshav Puram metro station.jpg doesn't show the earlier version. Help:Page history#Image histories implies that the old version should be visible there. Can anyone explain, please? --David Biddulph (talk) 13:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: As far as I can see, Platform's history correctly shows the move done by SoWhy. --CiaPan (talk) 13:32, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
P.S.
The image history doesn't show a new version of the image, because no new version of the image was uploaded. It's still the same image, just moved under a new name. --CiaPan (talk) 13:34, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I may have been confusing myself at the platform file by looking at the image history rather than file history. It seems surprising that there isn't a file history at File:Keshav Puram metro station.jpg to show that a different version existed in the past. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

That's because it hasn't. File:Keshav Puram metro station.jpg is included from Commons while the other exists locally. It appears in the move log though. Hope that helps. Regards SoWhy 13:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Dundalk Maryland

Hello I was wondering if you can help me..... I was looking under Dundalk Maryland and see all different types of information about the community. I wanted to reach out to Wikipedia concerning our business. Our family has been in business in the Dundalk community for over 100 years and would like to know if we can be added to the community information. Before I explain all of our history I wanted to reach out to you and see what is the process. Should I list everything about our family. We do have a website www.dundalkflorist.com with our history listed there. Please let me know what we would need to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmcwilliams3260 (talk • contribs) 14:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but Wikipedia is not for promotion. If you have a website, that is the place to do your advertising. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

HDI world map Taken down, want to keep it up

I made a map of country subdivisions by HDI and it got kind of popular (File:World Map of Subnational HDI.jpg). I want to put it on the HDI wiki page (HDI wiki). I have tried and it got accepted, but then somebody took it down. I want to know if it might work as a permanent addition to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FluffyChicken611 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm confused; your map seems to be present in the page. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:02, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@ONUnicorn: FluffyChicken611's edit is pending review, it's not visible unless you have the reviewer userright.

I could have sworn I was looking at the edit before FluffyChicken611's edit and that the map was in that one. But now I look at that edit and see you're right, it's not in that edit. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 16:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Ivanvector, Any logged in user sees the version of the article pending review (only logged-out editors see the accepted version). Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah, the magical world of pending changes. I still obviously don't get it, I thought that was also the case for non-confirmed accounts. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:31, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@FluffyChicken611: I can't tell exactly why your map was removed but it looks like another user thinks that it should not be there. You will have to ask User:Somedifferentstuff why they removed it, maybe they will respond here, or you can ask your question on the article's talk page. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:15, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@FluffyChicken611: The user who removed the map left an edit summary which explained their reason for doing so. You need to discuss it with them, directly or on the article talk page, not just revert their edit (as you have done). Neiltonks (talk) 17:03, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

move and redirect

Hello there !! I renamed my article "european project on ocean acidification to get it published (from my sandbox to article) Unfortunately i wrote the title with a "the" and i then renamed it from "the european project on ocean acidification" to "european project on ocean acidification"...creating a redirection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Project_on_Ocean_Acidification_(EPOCA) What i would like is that when users search for my page they get automatically the page with the title "european ...." without having a page with redirection : how to suppress the page with the title "the european..." and have automatically the page "European ...." ? Please help me I hope i made myself clear enough to you. Thanks a lot Nuluru (talk) 16:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nuluru, welcome to Wikipedia. If the title where you first created the article (the one with "the") is an obvious mistake, you can mark it for speedy deletion by adding the code {{db-r3}} to the very top of the page. An administrator will be along to delete the redirect shortly. For more information please see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. However, first, the current title of your article needs to be changed, because we do not include acronyms and initialisms in our article titles (see MOS:TITLE or MOS:ACRONYM). The proper title of your page should be European Project on Ocean Acidification, and you can create a redirect at the title EPOCA which redirects to your article. If you need help with any of this please ask! Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:11, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. If I understood correctly i should place the code {{db-r3}} on the first page "The european project on ocean acidification" and still, not forget to rename it into "european...", which i have already done. My problem is that i only want the page "european project..." to appear. So if i followed what you said it should be ok ? Thanks a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuluru (talk • contribs) 16:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I think you've got it now. The first title you moved to, The European Project on Ocean Acidification (EPOCA) (with "the"), is a redirect to the second one, European Project on Ocean Acidification (EPOCA) (no "the"). If a reader clicks on the first one the website automatically redirects them to where the article is now, so maybe you just want to leave it that way. Or you can ask for it to be deleted, I see you've tagged it correctly now.

Any time you move a page on Wikipedia, a redirect is left behind at the old title so that if anyone tries to look for the page in the old place they will be sent to the new title. We usually leave those old redirects in place, unless they're obviously mistakes. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:36, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes indeed i'd like this old redirect be deleted because it was a "simple" or "obvious" (lol) mistake of "the" and i find it kind of not "smooth" not to be directly on the proper article which was just not well entitled.. i hope it will be done or should i ask on a particular thread ? Thanks a lot anyway Nuluru (talk) 16:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

New log in and password needed for existing biography page. Creator and editor is no longer working with us and the page needs changes. Please help. Thank you!

Please help me with a new log in and password for an existing biography page. The Creator and editor of the page is no longer working with us and I have no idea how to proceed.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.43.20.50 (talk) 18:42, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

You may create an account at WP:ACCOUNT. Then you must read and comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not an avenue for promotion. RudolfRed (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Help transferring file to Commoms

I need help transferring File:PhiladelphiaSketchClub.jpg to WikiMedia Commons, which is currently in en.Wikipedia, Philadelphia Sketch Club article, and was being requested for deletion. Even a Master Editor IV can forget how to do something and need help! Cheers!!--Dthomsen8 (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Are you sure that it's not copyright? Dbfirs 19:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

January 15

Sourced content deleted

I correctly expanded an article with a new sub-heading and formatted, sourced content in this change. Wikilinks were then added.

All of the content was then deleted, including two refs. I included the road-name as it is countryside between two settlements. It is a facility, a local-government funded provision; there are no commercial considerations, hence it is of local and encyclopaedic value. Allusions to advertising would be irrelevant.

The deletion edit summary is: This detail is unimportant and outside of the guidelines - it reads like an advertisement. Another editor then restored some of the deleted content.

I am not satisfied with the deletion, and would prefer the full content to be restored. I do not believe I am 'in the wrong', but would appreciate confirmation. The deleting editor has a history of deletions at this article.

Comments please, including identification of the unidentified "guidelines". Thanks.--86.29.222.228 (talk) 00:34, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Content discussions should occur on an article's talk page. Please engage with the other editors there to reach a consensus. Start by assuming that the other editors are trying, like you, to improve Wikipedia. (WP:AGF). If you cannot reach a consensus there, then proceed as described in WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 02:47, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Arch dude, I am very well aware of that, but I wanted independent opinion, not to engage with someone who has a track record of deletion at this article and at the worklist which shows a lot of red. This deleting editor could've stated what guidelines were applicable (note - not policy). Deletion of sourced content is vandalism, hence common sense would seem to have been breached with a knee-jerk reaction to an IP address. Difficult to AGF here .--86.29.222.228 (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

This is a content dispute. It should be discussed on the article's talk page, and if consensus cannot be reached then dispute resolution may be used, exactly as User:Arch dude suggested. If you are not even willing to engage with the other editor then this is not going to go well. The Help page isn't here to short circuit the proper procedures. Meters (talk) 05:32, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

• Dear IP, I've given an independent opinion (and have undone your edits) and have warned you on the talk page of the article to stop spamming and to stop casting aspersions on other editors. As mentioned by the respected editors above, use DR for further dispute resolution. Thanks, Lourdes 05:41, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Right On! Magazine

Misplaced draft

Right On! Magazine was first published in October 1971 coinciding with the burgeoning popularity of Motown's African-American teen act, The Jackson Five, later known as The Jacksons. The publication, which was a spinoff of the Laufer Company's mainstream fan magazine, Tiger Beat, was created to meet the interest and curiosity of young fans who were passionate about obtaining information, interviews and color pin-ups on Michael, Jackie, Jermaine, Tito, Marlon and later, Randy Jackson. The magazine developed a following around the world, later branching off into a publication that became noted for discovering and publicizing recording artists and television celebrities, including The Sylvers, Janet, LaToya and Rebbie Jackson, Al B. Sure!, LL Cool J, the late artists Prince, Aaliyah, Tupac and Big Pun, Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs, Haywood Nelson, Stoney Jackson, Eric Laneuville, Kevin Hooks, Ralph Carter, Jimmie Walker, Shalamar and the original Soul Train Dancers. Many celebrities attributed their success to its editorial staff, which was lead by Cynthia Horner who was thanked on celebrities' liner notes and on social media. In the years that followed, Right On! remained at the forefront of magazine publishing, opening the gateway to the development of various other titles, including Class (an adult publication), Focus (a hip hop publication) and Sisters In Style (beauty/fashion). Although the publication was associated with the Jacksons, by the 80's Right On! was covering such hip hop stars as Kurtis Blow, Run-DMC, Whodini, DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince, Queen Latifah, TLC and New Edition. Right On!, whose named derived as an expression of positivity, published on a monthly basis until 2012. The magazine was then acquired by its former Editorial Director, Cynthia Horner, through her family's company Right On! Media Holdings, LLC. Largely a digital brand, its website is www.rightondigital.com where its slogan has been rebranded as "iconic positivity." In 2017-2018 the magazine was featured on such TV programs as TV One's Unsung, and CEO Cynthia Horner has appeared on such sites as shondaland.com, theozy.com, allhiphop.com and madamenoire.com.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.105.7.16 (talk) 00:43, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Is this a question or is this an article? If this is an article, this is not a place to make an article. PorkchopGMX (talk with me - what i've done) 00:53, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

We already have an article on this topic at Right On!: Bhunacat10 (talk), 13:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Help with ClueBot III

Hi, folks. Following the instructions given here by some kind editors, I "installed" the ClueBot III on my Talk Page. The bot is archiving my talk page properly. However, in the search box, the archives don't show properly and I really don't know what is wrong. So, I decided to come here to get some extra help. Thanks in advance.--SirEdimon (talk) 02:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@SirEdimon: Do you really want your archives to be at the title User talk:SirEdimon/Archives/ 2? That non-standard format is not where {{archives}} looks for archives, which is explaining why the {{archive box isn't working. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Pppery Hahahaha. Actually I didn't choose the name and I may have done something wrong when I "installed" it. Help, please. hahahaha.--SirEdimon (talk) 03:06, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok, SirEdimon, I've moved the archives to the typical format for numbered archives, and fixed the template for the bot, so the archives now appear and the bot should archive things correctly. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:56, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--SirEdimon (talk) 04:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000_Crore_Club This page is vandalised. Please restore it. 119.82.86.217 (talk) 10:43, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I have reverted the unexplained deletion. It would have helped if you had given some indication what the problem was, for those unfamiliar with the page. --ColinFine (talk) 12:45, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Screwed up AfD listing

I've screwed up the AfD listing for Vijay Kumar (physical therapy), can anyone figure out what I did? It's not appearing correctly (no heading for the discussion, listing broken on the AfD list), must have followed the instructions badly. Honestly I just did it correctly yesterday, what is wrong with me? Thanks for any help! valereee (talk) 13:09, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: I've reformatted the AFD page using Template:Afd2, as shown in the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. If you are doing this regularly, then I suggest you enable the Twinkle tool - you can then select "XFD" from a menu and type your reason into a box, and the tool will do the fiddly edits for you. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:15, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@John of Reading: OMG I am such an idiot, lol. I have twinkle and that's what I used yesterday. Not enough coffee, apparently. Thanks so much! valereee (talk) 13:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Change logo

I work at this school and would like to update the logo on this page to our new one. As I didn't set up the page, I can't change the logo. How can I do this please? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selby_High_School

Thank you Selby High School (talk) 13:24, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

I've softblocked the user due to their username and responded to their query on their talk page. Galobtter (pingó mió) 13:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

History of anarchism

In the thread of History of anarchism, the user User:Cinadon36, revert my contribution in the first time cause he said WP is not RS . Ok i accept it! So i put a very good citation as he suggest. Then he just revert me for second time without any explanation of what is his promblem now except this Please respect WP:BRD and take it to the talk page. So i revert him. But now he revert me for third time with a new(!!!) explanation now that Apart from sources, it is #UNDUE. If you continue reverting, I am going straight to ANI for disturbing editing. I can't understand what he wants. If he wants citations, i can provide at least from 10 books. But if he change all the time his objections, so i can't help him. Please check in the thead of [[3]] its common knowledge. If i did something wrong, please feel free to say so. Thank you. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 14:25, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

What he wants, Αντικαθεστωτικός, is for you to discuss the matter on the talk page. Reapplying your change after somebody has reverted it is edit warring: please read WP:BRD which is where Cinadon36 directed you. --ColinFine (talk) 15:25, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine Thank you for your time. My mistake i guess. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 15:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism

Dear all,

Hope all is well. I am mapping IP address edits per country for 271 language Wikipedias. I would like to exclude IP addresses that are vandalism. I was thinking of using the ipblocks table for the IP addresses to be excluded. Because this project is in so many different languages and my programming skills are intermediate, I would like to use the Wikipedia tables or registers that the Wikipedians in those language use to mark vandalism. If anyone has another idea, I would be most grateful. Perhaps I am missing a way that Wikipedians across languages are using to mark vandalism.

Thank you, Tom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomthirteen (talk • contribs) 18:14, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Tomthirteen, You could try excluding reverted edits WelpThatWorked (talk) 18:30, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Dear WelpThatWorked, thank you for your response. I hesitate to do that because there are many reverted edits that were done in good faith. Also, if I do that, do you know of an easy, efficient way to do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomthirteen (talk • contribs) 18:37, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Different COI editors for different languages paid by same organization

Would it be considered a conflict of interest if an institution assigned one COI editor for Wikipedia in English and a different French-speaking COI editor for the French version of Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.64.238 (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Can you clarify your question? If either editor has a conflict of interest, it doesn't matter if there is also another editor with a COI. RudolfRed (talk) 19:20, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Is it an issue if they are both working for the same international organization or is the organization limited to one COI editor, even if the editors are working (via Talk pages) in different languages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.64.238 (talk) 22:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. No, there is no particular restriction on the number of COI editors. Anybody is welcome to edit Wikipedia as long as they comply with its rules and guidelines: that tends to be harder to do for editors with a COI, which is part of the reason why they are discouraged from editing articles directly that they are involved with. But as long as they make the required declarations (mandatory if they are paid editors), and comply with the policies and practices, including their choice of account names if they choose to create accounts, there can be more than one. Note that each language Wikipedia is an entirely separate project, which may have different rules. --ColinFine (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.64.238 (talk) 00:53, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

"not found in cited source"

I believe I've seen a template which makes, in effect, the above statement. I need to use it now. How do I invoke it?--Quisqualis (talk) 19:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Put "{{Failed verification|date=January 2019}}" next to the closing </ref> tag. It will produce ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:29, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, ONUnicorn.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata linking question

I just wrote a section about the Mickey Mouse universe character Scuttle: Mickey Mouse universe#Scuttle. I would like to add it to the Wikidata page about this character: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3958734, but I don't know how. I tried adding a link to "Mickey Mouse universe#Scuttle" at the English Wikipedia but Wikidata wouldn't let me save this because Mickey Mouse universe is already linked to Wikidata. How can I accomplish this? Should I write an old-fashioned interwiki link, or create a redirect to the section and add it to Wikidata, or what? JIP | Talk 19:54, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

No. You don't need to do anything. Mickey Mouse universe is already linked and is enough. Wikidata only allows linking a page once but not sections.–Ammarpad (talk) 05:03, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

https://el.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Μακεδονία

This article present changes that DO NOT refers the actual story of Macedonia. It is stated that it is a slav country (which is not) and saying Macedonian as not a Greek language which is entirely false. The whole page needs to be corrected — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:242A:1A00:21CA:EECA:1555:FA1D (talk) 20:52, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

This is the English language Wikipedia. You will need to ask at that Wikipedia for help. RudolfRed (talk) 21:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Incidentally, people here at en:Wikipedia generally believe that the Macedonian language is Slavic, not Greek. Maproom (talk) 23:41, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Robert Compton Makenzie Campbell. pamella compton makenzie Campbell

Hello. I need help. I am trying to add info on a famous family and theirhistory, only for some one to de line it. There is someinfo on the above names but very limited as up untill now as there was a court order was put in place in 1959 for no publication onthefamily until they give permission to do so which is now they fill comfortable and ready. So how can we start puting info in. There is alot of evidence photos letters etc. The reason for limited info on Pamella carrington coutte (compton makenzie is she died 3 day after thebirth of her daughter and it is the most famous macbeth tragedy. Hence why no releases. Her daughter has now given permission to release biography. Please help in adding history to your wiki Regards Cyn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynhalliard (talk • contribs) 21:46, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Cynhalliard: Wikipedia can only use information from published sources. See WP:RS. We cannot use information from family letters etc. If the information has not been published anywhere, then you cannot add it to Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk) 21:50, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Fonts

I happened to come across this page on the German WP, called [4]. When compared to a en WP article, the fonts are much better, in terms of look, visual clarity and so. Comparing it to this article List of bays of Scotland that I am in the process of creating, the fonts look really blocky. I'm on the Cologne Blue skins. Is there any way to improve the look, possibly via stack of CSS definitions lying about. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 22:15, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Scope creep: They look the same to me when they are both viewed in Vector, or both viewed in Cologne Blue. Are you viewing them in the same skin and at the same size? Your browser may display larger with ctrl++, smaller with ctrl+-, and default size with ctrl+0. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:43, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: I tried that, but they are roughly 12point on each one. I'll upload a pic. Any ideas? I am on Windows 10, version 1803, on Firefox 63.0.2 scope_creep^Talk 22:53, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: It is something to do with Firefox. I will need have a look. scope_creep^Talk 22:57, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Scope creep: I have Windows 10, version 1803, Firefox 64.0.2. It sometimes makes a difference to clear your entire cache. Few readers have Cologne Blue. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: What is the most common skin? I have been on Cologne Blue for year. Perhaps it is time for a change. scope_creep^Talk 23:06, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Scope creep: Vector is default for desktop users. All logged out desktop readers see it, and most who are logged in. But a large part of our readers see the mobile version of the site. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:, I thought it would be more diverse. I like the vector, but for some reason on my part, the search box is on the wrong side, as the carat spends more time on the left, and you spend more time moving to the right the screen to search That was feeling about it at the time. Although in saying, I'm going to give Vector a try and see what happens. As if my magic, your cache flush solution seems to have fixed the problem. Thanks Primehunter. scope_creep^Talk 23:28, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

January 16

Potternewton

References 3 and 4 have the publishers in the wrong place. Please fix - I only have an inadequate device now. Thanks so much - I try to get it all perfect. Please leave in quotes 175.33.45.21 (talk) 01:59, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The references are OK. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Potternewton

Ref number 4 is definitely not correctly done. I have tried a couple of times but failed. There is no need for the bit about "line feed character in - quote..." at the end of the actual quote from the citation. Please leave in real quote. Thanks 175.33.45.21 (talk) 07:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Fixed. But you're the one who introduced that error after I answered your question above when there was no error. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Submitting articles

I have created two articles in the past which were accepted for use on Wikipedia, but it has been a while, and I am rusty. I have written a third article, but I am not exactly sure how to submit it. Please advise. EDGRC — Preceding unsigned comment added by EDGRC (talk • contribs) 06:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@EDGRC: If you think it is ready for article space, you can move it there. If you would like to submit it for review, you can add {{subst:submit}} to the top. —teb728 t c 07:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Create Father's Blessing and Mother's Blessing wiki page please

Create Father's Blessing and Mother's Blessing wiki page please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:130A:C670:8D2E:ADB3:CF8:317E (talk) 07:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

What are those? Do you have WP:RELIABLE SOURCES? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)l

Chapeltown, West Yorkshire

This page is the suburb in Leeds. Ref number 15 has the page numbers done incorrectly. Please fix up if you have time - my device is hopeless, . Thanks175.33.45.21 (talk) 08:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The page to which you intended to refer is Chapeltown, Leeds; Chapeltown is a disambiguation page. I've removed the reference so that you can put it in correctly if you don't want to change what you inserted. A further reminder that if you want to undo an edit the button is "Undo". --David Biddulph (talk) 08:12, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Roberta Compton Mackenzie Campbell

Had a message reply stating there is no published article concerning the above person. In fact there is she also comes under the name Roberta king. The above name is her family and professional name. The info are legal documents not ordinary letters and acting proof of history of this famous family. So how are we suppose to add people into wiki when people havent researched deeply. This family have been mentioned on many autobiography s and biography s. Cynhalliard (talk) 09:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

(Cynhalliard: I've moved this question here from the Help Desk's talk page, which is intended for discussion of the operation of the Help Desk.) Maproom (talk) 09:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The draft in your sandbox appears to be a hoax, or a work of fiction. It has no references. When you say "This family have been mentioned on many autobiography s and biography s", you provide no evidence, and don't even specify what family you mean. Maproom (talk) 09:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The piece is not a hoax or fiction, but I'm sure that someone who says she been an assistant editor on a national newspaper will be able to rephrase it more clearly. The contributor will, however, need to find good sources before proceeding further. Unpublished legal documents are not admissible as sources in Wikipedia. Please see this page for more about types of sources that can be accepted: Bhunacat10 (talk), 11:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

How to insert images on Wikipedia.

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ujala Mall (talk • contribs) 10:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Ujala Mall Please refer to our page on Uploading images and pay particular attention to the copyright requirements: Bhunacat10 (talk), 11:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Watch User contributions

Is there a way to view new contribs from all users on my watchlist in one place? I am following up on a bunch of users who are vandalizing or have a COI. Tracking them in one place would be really helpful Daiyusha (talk) 12:41, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability/NPOV

Hi! I've only recently started editing, and I'm looking to improve various articles around Scotland and Edinburgh. I've seen various articles such as Turcan Connell where some of the tone seems overly promotional, and the article hasn't seen much attention in the last few months. In cases like this, would it be better to try and be bold and attempt to rewrite the article to be less promotional, or simply list the article for deletion? Sorry if this is an obvious question! Thanks --IrnBruFan7 (talk) 12:51, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

IrnBruFan7, thanks. I've speedy deleted this as obvious spam and blocked editor Turcan Connell. In general, it depends how much needs doing to fix the problems. If in doubt about notability, send to WP:AFD, if it's obvious spam, tag for a speedy deletion Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Unless the whole piece is blatantly promotional, "fix it yourself" is normally the preferred course. However, sometimes an editor who spots such problems may be without the time, access to sources, or topic understanding to rewrite the promotional parts neutrally to reflect what the sources actually support. In this case an alternative is to place appropriate cleanup tags at the top of the article or section, for someone else to hopefully pick up the task. Please note that nomination for deletion may not succeed if the topic is inherently notable – see WP:BEFORE: Bhunacat10 (talk), 13:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks guys! --IrnBruFan7 (talk) 13:57, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Biographies of living or recently dead people

Thank you for taking time to read this.

I have 2 questions - 1. evidence requirements for biographies

                    2. the use of biographies by people who wish to add contentious material that is not directly associated with the subject of the biography. 

1. We do not live our lives in refereed journals. There may be all kinds of evidence for a person's life in addition to media reports and journal articles. For example - government records, court records, medical records, educational records, and video or photographic evidence. I'm finding that facts for which there is ample evidence, such as weight changes (relevant if mistreatment is an issue) are having 'It is alleged' added, or being erased altogether because the data is in medical records or court transcripts or books. I'd like to discuss this issue, as it must be quite common.

2. A biography of someone with a disability who died 8 years ago, which was on Wikipedia prior to her death, is now regularly having negative comments added, referenced by articles which have no relation to her. They are being posted by people involved in a current controversy who presumably see this as a way of bringing their views to wider attention. I have heard that this is also started happening to people with other disabilities who are still living as well. Removing the negative material doesn't help, as it is just replaced a day or two later.

Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amdc538 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hi, The page for David Simchi-Levi was deleted by an inactive editor. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Simchi-Levi&action=edit&redlink=1

There is no conflict with having a wikipedia page for an MIT professor - look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yossi_Sheffi

Can you help? thanks, Edith