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NPPSchool graduated userbox

Hi Barkeep49, Good day. I would like to propose NPPSCHOOL graduate user box and a NPPSCHOOL logo/graphic logo (like that of CUVA). Kindly give me your thoughts. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:41, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CASSIOPEIA, I think it's a great idea. If you feel up to designing it, great. Otherwise I'd be happy to give it a go when I have a bit more time on my hands. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 05:48, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know. I might not able to them it a the moment as I need to get the software set up and my only laptop is about to break into two (there is a huge crack between my screen and the CPU and I cant even close the screen - dont think it will last very long as it has been in such condition for 2 weeks now - need to get a new one :( ) plus I need to move back to AUS soon as I currently resides in SEA thus I will be a little busy looking for place to settle down. Just ping me when you have started so we dont both do the same thing :). Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:01, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Barkeep49, I manage to find a software program which I would do some graphic work and have a few draft on the NPP SCHOOL and NPP reveiwer user boxes. I placed them at the very bottom NPP material page. Kindly have a look and let me know your thoughts. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:10, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, I have done another NPP school and reviewer user box - let me know your thoughts - you can find them my sandbox - here. thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:51, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA, I like the work. I am not a huge fan of the blue and red but everything else is great. My personal favorite is npp round logo but it like all the work. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:22, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, I have changed to blue and dark blue, let me know which one you prefer or you can just change the color as you see fit. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 00:56, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA, I like the dark blue better. Question, though. Does it make sense, for the rights boxes, to use your new ones or adjust the existing one? I would think we should change that one rather than make an alternative template. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:56, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, I have created 3 NPP School version using the original template with slight adjustments. Let me know of your thoughts. Thanks in advance. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:10, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA, I went ooh when i saw them - those are very attractive too. I'm kind of agnostic about whether we should keep the modified wiki logo or your new logo. I definitely like the blue on blue graduate boxes you made in this latest revision. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:18, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, It is up to you. The modified version would be the extension from the original reviewer version and it would be in the same design family and association. The new one would be, well... new I guess. Let me know. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:16, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, Just want to check with you regarding the NPPSchool userbox status as one of my trainee would be graduate from the program soon. Kindly let me know. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:11, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA, I think we should go for it. Pick your favorite at this point though I would suggest, based on the feedback we received, to go with perhaps the one at the top that uses the traditional logo. Congrats on graduating a student. I look forward to seeing their application at PERM. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:02, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, OK and thank you. The student had already granted the patroller user right and enrolled to the program because they are new to the task and would like to gain more knowledge on reviewing new articles. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 02:57, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Barkeep49, G'day. One of my students has just graduate from NPPSCHOOL and just wonder would the new NPPSCHOOL - see thumb|NPPS Cross Dark Blue &Light Blue be subsituted the current logo at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/School (very top of the page on the left). I also created the cat for the NPPSCHOOL graduate template. template doc and cats - see Template:User NPPSCHOOL/Graduate, Template:User NPPSCHOOL/Graduate/doc, and . However, the
This user is an NPP SCHOOL graduate.
doesn't turn up right where by "program by graduate" should not be there but somehow it appears on the NPPSCHOOL graduate user box. I am not technical and tried many times to correct it but failed to do so, wonder if you could help and if not, could you point me to template editor who might be kindly enough to lend a hand. Thanks in advance and MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR to you Barkeep49!!!. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
CASSIOPEIA, I changed the logo at NPPS, however I'm not sure what your second question was. Can you try reasking? Barkeep49 (talk) 19:03, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CASSIOPEIA: What do you picture the userbox looking like? You can just describe it, no wikicode needed Kevin ;(aka L235 · t · c) 19:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barkeep 49, thank you for changing the logo at NPPS.
L235 and Barkeep49. I think the red colour text "graduate" is for sub and it will turn "blue color" once it is done - see User:Interstellarity. Since the userbox right side is blue in colour, the user name cant be since. Could we change it to either (1) just "This user has graduated from the NPPSCHOOL program" and link WP:NPPSHOOL but in white colour or (2) keep the all the text "This user has graduated from the NPPSCHOOL program by graduate." and link WP:NPPSCHOOL and graduate in white colour. I am not sure what I say above is more confusing to guys or more clearer of what I want and hope is the later. Suggestions are welcome. Kindly help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:35, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

Sorry about the pinging problem; I am never sure why they go awry. I responded here; I am really unsure how one handles a situation like this, so any guidance is appreciated. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:09, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

SandyGeorgia, I was sorry to read about your loss. Know that I am sending you nothing but my best wishes in this difficult time. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:34, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Barkeep49, thanks so much-- a dear friend is losing his wife, unexpectedly. At the very same time as his father's funeral. So, while we had planned only to attend the father's wake, we suddenly have to attend both wake and funeral and visit the extended family. Very sad, as the wife is our age and a dear friend. Thanks for the thoughts, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:45, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
SandyGeorgia how sad indeed. Your dear friend is lucky to have you. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
How kind of you … and I should bake him some chicken pot pies as well, as his wife is going in to hospice right during his father's funeral and he will need friends to bring food. We got the word this morning, and are quite shocked. But I will stay up with the page as I can, even if from my phone … we are making progress! Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:55, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request feedback

Hello again! Just wanted to thank you for your feedback after my New Page Reviewer application. I am still trying to find my place here, and encouragement is much appreciated. Hope to see you around in future. Thank you, PK650 (talk) 04:06, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PK650, I'm sorry to read that you're having trouble finding your place. Wikipedia can, unfortunately, be a bit hard to break into. As I said your content work feels good. A path you might consider pursuing would be Did you Know which can get new articles on the main page. If you're feeling a bit more ambitious you might also consider taking one of your articles to Good Article status. Finally, a good community can make Wikipedia a much better place. Perhaps there is an active WikiProject you could join? Getting involved there lets you build rapport through good work with other editors. Thanks for coming here and sharing the impact of my feedback - I work hard to remember there's a person on the otherside reading what I write - and appreciate knowing that my impact in this case was positive. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:15, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, ha, I didn't mean it like that! I'm having a good time, don't get me wrong...it's just that one doesn't always land precisely where they "belong". I did join WiR months ago, and my work there was indeed rewarding, but it also made me want to branch out. I will continue to create content about computer scientists, and particularly women, but I would also like to learn new things and participate outside my comfort zone. I'll engage in AfD and elsewhere with NPP in sight, as I think there's so much opportunity there! There aren't many places where content is modified and discussed in such a systematic fashion. I also liked your DYK suggestion: some of the biographies I've worked in do fit that niche quite nicely! I won't take more of your time! Best, PK650 (talk) 04:32, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh and if/when you have the time please let me know if I'm on the right track, as I've been going through old-new articles today, and have nominated some for deletion. I started doing it by hand but was very glad to discover twinkle. Copying templates was quite some work! :) PK650 (talk) 01:24, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
PK650, I just did a quick scan through your work there today (so glad you found Twinkle, it makes so much on Wikipedia easier) and without commenting on the merits (as I might end up closing some of those discussions) your statements all seem to be the kinds of statements encouraged by policy with your nominations showing that you've attempted to do a WP:BEFORE. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:29, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you kindly. I've found this work very instructive, as it makes you find out all kinds of stuff both about Wikipedia and facts in general. I've already seen unreviewed articles from months ago that I would've positively reviewed. But all in due time! Is there a place where one can see all of one's AfD nominations? Best, PK650 (talk) 01:37, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
PK650, here's a tool for just that purpose (this is showing all participation, you can run a new search with just your nominations). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:38, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is it proper/accepted procedure to use PROD, and if the notice is removed then resort to AfD, or should PROD only be used for certain cases? I've been using AfD for all but one of my nominations, and in that case it was because the article was moved from draftspace even though the AfC reviewer had declined it. But since then I've seen many instances of PROD use and that made me think... especially since WP:PRD claims it is an "easier method of removing articles or files than the articles for deletion (AfD) or files for discussion (FfD) processes". What are your thought on this? Best, PK650 (talk) 21:38, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    PK650, PROD is absolutely appropriate to use when you anticipate deletion will be uncontroversial. If it proves controversial it is appropriate to then take it to AfD. Many new pages are bound to be controversial when nominated so I don't personally use PROD a lot when doing NPP but that's a personal preference and many other people who look at new pages do use PROD. Have you read WP:PROD to find out more about it? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:54, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your thoughts. Yes, I have. But on the other hand I've seen many instances of it and it's hard to find a clear pattern. I also understand that to a page's creator, deletion will usually feel controversial, even though the subject of the article might be clearly non-notable for Wikipedia as we editors see it. A lot of tags are removed for this reason, I found, and so many PRODs do end up at AfD anyway. So yeah, I guess it's as you say, at the discretion of a reviewer's sense and good judgment. But when it works, it's a useful tool. PK650 (talk) 00:25, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    PK650, all that is why I find PROD far more useful when there's an older page that isn't notable than with a new article. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:30, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

Hi Barkeep49, I have a small problem with a new editor who is familiar with rules but is quoting them selectively and pushing his POV. One of the articles in question is Vladimir Beara. The man lived and worked in Yugoslavia, but that fact was repeatedly removed and deleted. Source from a local tabloid ( an interview with propaganda like wording) was introduced to prove his alleged self-identification. Other article edited by the same user is a far darker story: intro on the article on chief ideologue of Ustashe, who murdered hundreds of thousands of people and ran only children camps in WW2 Europe, is being whitewashed and total of 6 RS removed! Please take a look at Ante Starčević. In my mind the case is pretty clear but I wanted to ask for a second opinion and seek help/mediation before going for a report. thank you kindly Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 12:50, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sadko there's a bunch going on. First a reminder that when you need to communicate with another editor the best way to do this is through talk page discussion not edit summaries. Sometimes edit summaries are enough but in this case that doesn't appear to be true. That said my pinion from looking into a few of these articles is that they understand some Wikipedia policies but not others. Both of you have been engaging in a bit of slow motion edit warring about things which isn't great, however from what I can tell (as a non-expert on the content) your edits appear supported by policy. The topic of national/ethnic identity is one that has a lot of problems. As you might have already seen I placed an alert on both your talk pages about special sanctions that are in effect for this area because of problems that have been experienced at lots of articles. As it says this doesn't mean you've done anything wrong, but just letting you know that these exist. Hope this helped. If not please ask more questions. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

language templates

Hey, Barkeep! Would you be willing to take a look at Makiyakinabe? I'm reviewing it for GA, and yesterday the nom added some language templates in, and on my machine the result is very weird -- the font is smaller, the italics look different -- and to me it's distracting. I've already asked the nom to find another solution, but then I wondered if maybe I'm being too nitpicky. --valereee (talk) 15:25, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Valereee, yeah it's definitely not rendering correctly. My guess is because it's roman letters for a Japanese word and the template is expecting Japanese characters. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:32, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(watching:) try to give the template |italic=no - the language templates used to leave formatting alone, but then were switched to automatic italics. I hate it, and it's not a word I use often. It makes every look at older versions awful, on top of the unfinished work of having to add the italic=no to the - at least where I work - many more occurrences of no italics, + remove the italics from the others ... - peace ... - but I still hate it. Never change a running system , and for what? Holy consistency? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) Valereee, I think this could be a question for Trappist the monk – perhaps the (relatively) recent changes to Module:Lang have caused that anomalous display, or perhaps this has been happening for ages and no-one has noticed? Either way, I think he'll know. Changing to {{transl}}, which should be right for a transliteration, does not seem to solve it. It's not the same problem Gerda is talking about, an undiscussed change which broke the display on thousands (tens of thousands?) of pages, many of which still have not been fixed. Hi, Barkeep! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Justlettersandnumbers & Gerda Arendt for their thoughts. I very much welcome talk page watchers chiming in. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:55, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Justlettersandnumbers & Gerda Arendt, pinging Kamakou just to let them know this is being discussed and will hopefully get some resolution! --valereee (talk) 18:27, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all for clearing things up with this, the text was acting up on my browser too, but I added -Latn to all of the templates and now it looks good for me. Kamako (talk) 20:26, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's a browser thing. Your browser is doing exactly as it was instructed to do. When you write:
{{lang|ja|nigirizushi}}
your browser gets:
<span title="Japanese-language text"><i lang="ja">nigirizushi</i></span>
In that, your browser sees that the text is Japanese (lang="ja") so uses a font specifically designed for Japanese scripts:
nigirizushi
Because this example text is written with Latin characters, you should tell the browser that it is Japanese-language text that is written using Latin script:
{{Lang|ja-Latn|nigirizushi}}
your browser gets:
<span title="Japanese-language text"><i lang="ja-Latn">nigirizushi</i></span>
Here, the language-script pair tells your browser that the text is Japanese written with the Latin script (lang="ja-Latn") so your browser uses a font specifically designed for Latin script:
nigirizushi
—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:56, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Trappist the monk, so I think what you're saying is that with my browser, this will look different than with another browser? Shouldn't we be using something that will look the way we intend on every browser? Why is everyone laughing? Is there some way to handle this that doesn't have this problem? --valereee (talk) 19:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
May do. The purpose of {{lang}} and the {{lang-??}} templates is to provide correct language information to your browser, my browser, everybody's browser. Different browser vendors may choose to use different fonts to render different languages so a Chrome rendering may look different from a Firefox rendering which may look different from an Opera rendering ... I suspect that browser vendors render Japanese written with Latin script using the same font that they would render any of the Latin-script languages (French, Italian, English, ...) because it is just easier to do that than to have a special font for each language.
We have absolutely no control over how any browser renders anything. Because we adhere to the standards that govern html, we hope that that browser vendors will also adhere to those same standards (internet exploder was notorious for flaunting the standards). Nor do we have control over the age of a reader's browser. Old versions of browsers running on old operating systems will likely not render the same way that up-to-date systems do. So we do the best we can by emitting pages that are correct-to-the-current-standards.
I'm not sure that I understand your question: Is there some way to handle this that doesn't have this problem? I don't see that there is a problem except that what needs doing is to change {{lang|ja|...}} to {{lang|ja-Latn|...}} where ... is Japanese text written with Latin script. What am I not understanding about your question?
—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:41, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Trappist the monk, hm...I guess what I'm asking is maybe instead of using these language templates, should we just italicize foreign words? What does the template do for us? --valereee (talk) 19:44, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As Trappist the monk said, it allows the browser to select an appropriate font to display the language (most notably, not all fonts will have the Chinese-Japanese-Korean characters), as well as rendering right-to-left text appropriately within English text. From a non-display point of view, it allows apps that process the text to know the language of the text. So screen readers would be able to use different pronunciation rules, and translators would know the source language of the text, for example. isaacl (talk) 20:00, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)
The templates tell browsers and screen readers how to render and speak the words on the screen. Simply adding italic markup conveys no real semantic information to the renderer other than: this-text-shall-be-displayed-with-a-slanted-font-style.
The html standards provide a mechanism to specify languages. For example, in the html source for this page, the second line is:
<html class="client-nojs" lang="en" dir="ltr"> – right-click, View source; this line may be different for different readers according to their settings, logged in / out, etc
The important parts of that for this discussion are the lang="en" and dir="ltr" attributes which tell everyone's browsers that the language used on this page is English and that the text direction is left-to-right. When it is necessary to deviate from that, as for the Japanese text above, it is necessary to tell the browser / screen reader that 'this' text is Japanese, treat it differently from the English in the rest of the page. Were we having this discussion about Hebrew instead of Japanese, text direction becomes very important because that language is written right-to-left (but digits are written right-to-left). We handle all of these cases in a standardized way through {{lang}} and the {{lang-??}} templates.
Did I answer your question?
—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Trappist the monk, I'm sorry, I'm being dense. Why do we need more that italicizing (which indicates it's a foreign language) -- if I scroll over the bizarrely-rendered italics, and they don't say "this is Japanese" or anything. What is using the template doing for anyone other than making the article hard to read? It's italicized. What does the template do to help the average reader? I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be obtuse. I just honestly am not seeing anything except a tiny little italicization instead of a normal-sized italicization, until I actually look at the markup and go, "Oh, it's japanese!" --valereee (talk) 20:23, 11 December 2019 (UTC)NM, nom fixed the template, so it's moot lol! That's dumb, this'll come up again --valereee (talk) 20:27, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Do these both look the same to you?
  1. nigirizushi
  2. nigirizushi
When you hover your mouse pointer over 'nigirizushi' in the above, you should get a tool tip that reads 'Japanese language text'. For wikilinked text inside a {{lang}} template, the tooltip is overridden by MediaWiki's tooltip telling you where the link goes:
{{Lang|ja-Latn|[[nigirizushi]]}} → nigirizushi
What is dumb?
—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:39, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Trappist the monk, shouldn't the {{transl}} template understand by default that the script is Latin? And right-to-left too, for that matter? Since those are immutable characteristics of a transliteration into Western script? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:42, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It does:
{{transl|ja|nigirizushi}} → <span title="Japanese-language romanization"><i lang="ja-Latn">nigirizushi</i></span> → nigirizushi
Are you see some case where it does not?
—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:48, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Trappist the monk, ah, I hadn't been hovering long enough -- it takes a while, on my machine, and when I'd hovered for a second and seen nothing I assumed nothing was there. 'Dumb' was referring to an earlier edit striking out the question as moot because the nom had fixed the template to add -Latin, but it's good to finally get to the answer so I unstruck. Okay, so the template allows this hovering to identify the language, and as long as you add the -Latin you won't get weird rendering. That'll work! Thanks for the help! --valereee (talk) 22:15, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Trappist the monk, I tested it in the article, and it did not solve the problem. In your example immediately above, the Japanese word is over-sized in relation to the rest of the text; it is larger than this: nigirizushi, and may perhaps be in a different font, I'm not sure. Also, your two examples with and without |ja-Latn look exactly the same, and both produce over-sized text (and the tooltip). The Japanese words in the Makiyakinabe article are still over-sized in relation to the rest of the text, even though they now have the |ja-Latn parameter. Safari 13.0.3, Vector skin. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:32, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Same when you are logged out? If not then something about your settings (css and / or javascript) is changing something. If same logged out / logged in then you may be proving my point that:
Different browser vendors may choose to use different fonts to render different languages so a Chrome rendering may look different from a Firefox rendering which may look different from an Opera rendering ...
...which may look different from a Safari rendering ...
though it still may be possible that you have some browser setting (outside of Wikipedia) that changes how Japanese text is rendered.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:59, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Sports in the United States

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Sports in the United States. Legobot (talk) 04:28, 12 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peace Dove

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, peoples rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. ―Buster7 ☎ 23:18, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

John Finucane (Sinn Féin politician)

John Finucane (Sinn Féin politician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) As he was elected as an MP could you restore the history of this please? The article is currently at John Finucane (Sinn Féin) with the previous title redirecting to that. I assume some kind of history merge might be needed also. Thank you. FDW777 (talk) 08:51, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

FDW777, I believe I have done this correct. I have, in any event done it. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:47, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me, thank you. FDW777 (talk) 08:44, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance Required

Hello, I’m in a fix and seek your assistance or advice. The problem is this; I had been doing new page patrol duties (I don’t have this as a user right) but I engage in this as a way to assist the NPP by requesting speedy deletes, nominating non notable articles for deletion, welcoming and commending new editors and editors who did a good piece on an article, and finally moving undersourced BLP articles (who are possibly notable but undersourced or not sourced at all) back to the users draft space so they could include more sources before moving the articles back to Mainspace. I had been doing this duties successfully but encountered a mystery today. I moved this article Robin Millar (politician) created by a different user back to their draft-space and the user objected this move and moved the page back to Mainspace. Now the problem is when the editor moved it back to mainspace it became listed as “my article” i am now receiving notifications on the article and now when I checked the Number Of Live Articles Created By Me it read 32 but should be 31 and i can see the aforementioned article listed as one I created which isn’t correct. I have created 31 BLP’s in sum total not 32. This has never happened to me before is this a glitch in the system or as a result of an error made by me? Please do assist me here.Celestina007 (talk) 23:21, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Celestina007, good news. The always wonderful Bradv fixed this before I could. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:51, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Celestina007 Sorry for the double ping but I just realized I focused too much on the problem and not enough on the other things you wrote. Thank you for your efforts at patrolling new pages. Having all editors contribute through tagging, nominating for speedy deletion, and other tasks is how the formal new page patrol got started. So thank you for that and please don't hesitate to drop-by here at anytime when you have issues. Please know that draftifying articles can be controversial and so, until you hold the NPP userright, I would urge a bit of caution in helping out in that way. I see from your new articles that you're interested in Nigeria and Nigerian BLPs. We certainly need more editors working in those areas so thank you as well for those efforts. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:58, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Barkeep49 & Bradv Thank you both so much. I’d definitely keep off draftifying articles for now. I appreciate you both helping me out here. Thanks.Celestina007 (talk) 06:24, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nice job

Congrats on getting over 60% support in the ArbCom elections! I was hoping you would be in the top 11, but 12th place with majority support is no small achievement. Thanks for volunteering! Wug·a·po·des​ 02:00, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

+1 SQLQuery me! 02:03, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Wugapodes. I too was hoping I would finish in the top 11 :). However, how gratifying is it that I, someone who was nobody 6 months ago, would be entrusted with among the most important responsibilities Wikipedia has to offer by so may. I'm truly honored that 60+% would put so much faith in me. I am appreciative that you did so and that you took the time to come here and say such nice things. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:04, 14 December 2019 (UTC) P.S. SQL snuck in there while I was typing my reply but same for him. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:04, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you <3

Hey Barkeep, congrats on your well-run, responsive, honorable ACE campaign. I know this result wasn't the one you wanted, but I wanted you to know I am so very proud of you and I'm glad you were in this race. A few months out from RfA, you achieved a level of community support that very few Wikipedians have ever received, within a hair of the Committee and beyond what was necessary for election in several recent years. You, Barkeep, are one of the most dedicated and hardworking people I have had the honor to get to know, and I'm grateful for your presence and your energy and your devotion. None of that, I know, takes the sting out of it--which is completely fine and understandable. Certainly take as much time as you need following the results. When you get a chance, I hope you get the opportunity to immerse yourself again in the things that attracted you to Wikipedia in the first place--certainly doesn't have to be the administrative crap, which I know has been a greater priority for you lately. I hope you have a wonderful holiday season and I would absolutely love to catch up again soon! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:27, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

L235, thank you so much for your kind words and for taking the time to right such a heartfelt note. It's so gratifying to know that I have friends like you around. How luck is English Wikipedia to have such thoughtful people like you contributing to it (answer: incredibly). I ran because I wished to have the opportunity to serve. The good news is that I am going to have the opportunity to serve - serve by continuing to work at AfD, continuing to serve by participating in next year's WIkiCup, continuing to serve by again taking students in my NPP school. There is so much work for us all to do and I just am hopeful that I can continue to do my bit in creating the greatest knowledge repository the English language world has ever seen (and in making that available for free). Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Partial blocks

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Sad

that you missed it by one spot, but the downsides are hardly bad either! ∯WBGconverse 12:16, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Winged Blades of Godric, thanks for your support. It was obviously very close and I do wish I had finished in the top 11 rather than being the first runner-up but I have so much to be thankful for in this election. I look forward to how I can serve the community in other ways. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:17, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a darn good showing considering multiple candidates had been arbs previously --valereee (talk) 23:37, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Valereee but while we're on the topic of sad, I will state that virtually every time I've seen you around this last monthy I would read what you'd write and I was sad that you weren't on the ballot... Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:38, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Barkeep. I really gave it a TON of thought, even wrote out a statement. I waffled literally until the last possible few hours, then decided the fact I was still waffling with literally hours to go was perhaps a reason not to. I'm not ruling out a run. Maybe next year. --valereee (talk) 23:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Valereee, I had second-hand word you'd been giving it serious thought and I'm glad to hear you say maybe next year. I really think you'd be as fine of an arb as they come. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:50, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
+1 to the above. I've been offline over the last week (Christmas, primary schools, plus some personal stuff that needed seeing to) and missed the outcome of this, but needless to say you had my complete trust and I'd hoped that your run would be successful. Also needless to say that many other areas of the project, like NPP school and indeed NPP itself, will doubtless benefit from the time that might otherwise have been eaten up with arbing; thank you for giving as much as you always do, in the way that you always do it. GirthSummit (blether) 22:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Girth Summit, thanks. Many of us around here, including you, give lots of themselves and deserve thanks for what they do. So thanks for the nice words but also all the stuff you thanked me for? Thanks to you for all that too. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please check my latest draft?

Hi, recently created another draft - Draft:Yasmeen Al Maimani - and have ensured just about every aspect that I could think of. Whenever you have time, can you please check and make suggestions as to how I could improve on it further? Thanks in advance, Tycheana (talk) 16:15, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tycheana, the writing looks reasonable and written in an encyclopedic manner. The biggest question is the sourcing. I have not examined it at all but from the name alone I wonder if "About her" is a reliable source. Making sure all your information is from reliable independent secondary sources will be important to showing her notability. Best of luck, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:38, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, in fact the lay in question has been extensively covered on the Internet, but most of them are blogs, interviews and have her quotes. So I sifted through till I found some authority sites like GACA, Arab News, Vogue and so on, and About Her also turned out to be a women's mag of the Middle East. From what I checked all these sources are independent and reputed publications in the Middle East, and so I used these to prove her notability.
Tell me something...what if a username in Wikipedia appears in green? Is it an indication of some sort? This user in green is persuading me to move the draft into article space. Literally pushing....and i dont even know them. Said he/she came across this particular draft and traced it back to me and that I should move it to the article space. What do you think? Thanks & regards, Tycheana (talk) 18:50, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, Green must be some userscript you have turned on. Normally usernames are blue (has a user page) or red (no user page). So without knowing what Green means I can't advise you how to respond. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, it's just the color that the editor chose for their signature (like mine is kind of violet), doesn't mean anything. Schazjmd (talk) 19:31, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Schazjmd, thanks - I realized that they are using the span code to color their name green. But why this insistence in moving my draft to the article space? For that matter do you feel that my draft is ready for the article space and will survive there without being recommended for speedy deletion? Thanks again, regards, Tycheana (talk) 19:42, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, that editor is inexperienced and eager to become an article reviewer so I suspect they're just trying to get involved in any way that they can. I think your caution, and requesting experienced editors to look at your draft, is a smart way to go. Schazjmd (talk) 19:45, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Schazjmd, thanks for interjecting and solving the issue. I would really like some suggestions from experienced editors and if you happen to be one, please do take a look and provide an opinion. Thanks again, Tycheana (talk) 19:55, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Schazjmd for providing the answer I could not. I have been busy doing holiday baking all day and didn't have time to do more than a casual look for the interaction Tycheana referenced. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:55, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And thanks Schazjmd & Barkeep49, am grateful for the guidance. My draft got rejected saying that one source is reliable, the others need to be replaced, but they have not told me which is reliable and which need to be replaced. So, I have asked them to point out so that I can retain that source and change the rest. Thanks again, Tycheana (talk) 02:55, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Schazjmd & Barkeep49, some newspaper sources on the subject wherein the newspapers mentioned below themselves have a Wikipedia page, so am assuming that they would be noteworthy by themselves - Harper's Bazaar - https://www.harpersbazaararabia.com/people/news/yasmeen-al-maimani-is-saudi-arabias-first-female-commercial-pilot; Saudi Gazette - http://saudigazette.com.sa/article/568936; the national.ae - https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/travel/saudi-arabia-s-first-female-commercial-pilot-wants-others-to-soar-in-her-flight-path-1.875903; Bahrain This Week - https://www.bahrainthisweek.com/to-the-heights-yasmeen-al-maimani-the-first-female-saudi-commercial-pilot/; Will these work as independent and reliable? I could look for Arabic newspapers too, but if these work then, will use them first. Thanks & regards, Tycheana (talk) 04:25, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, I'm not the expert that Barkeep49 is, but I consider those good sources. Schazjmd (talk) 14:20, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tycheana, I don't generally review articles on request here, but I would agree that they are all RS. Harpers also helps establish notability and Saudi Gazette probably does too - the others are too interview oriented to be considered independent in my opinion. Based on what I've seen now I would accept the draft. Cass, who declined the draft before, is sometimes around this talk page so perhaps they'll even see it here. Otherwise I would incorporate those sources and resubmit. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:23, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barkeep49, in fact I have been interacting with Cassiopeia all morning and they rejected these saying that - Female beaty/fashion magazines are not good sources and they would subject to challenge - their words. So I came up with more sources, and the 2 they approved are Gulf News - https://gulfnews.com/world/gulf/saudi/saudia-offers-pilot-training-scholarships-to-women-1.2097443; and https://www.arabianaerospace.aero/captains-fantastic.html. So one of these I have incorporated, the 2nd one am yet to, will do so now. Harper's Bazaar and Saudi Gazette even i felt would be good because both are reputed, but then when Cassiopeia expressed doubts I started looking around further. Then the GACA source I took permission and shifted it under External Links. Thanks for all the help, truly appreciate, and sincere apologies for troubling like this, just that identifying sources is a truly maze-like experience. Regards & best wishes, Tycheana (talk) 17:57, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No trouble at all Tycheana. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:58, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Barkeep49, the draft got approved, and to as a gesture of gratitude I would like to gift you a barnstar -

The Guidance Barnstar
Thank You for providing guidance whenever I have needed it, truly appreciate


Thanks & regards, Tycheana (talk) 05:24, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thanks for the role!
Thank you for giving me the pending changes role. I'm going to spend the next few months reviewing diffs on pending-changes protected articles, and also being a little more active at AFD so that I can apply for new page reviewer next time. ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 13:35, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Grand Canyon (book)

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Deletion review for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tiff's Treats

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Sorry for not notifying you first before posting the DRV. In my review of the appeals process, it was not clear that I should have initially reached out to you. Either way, I see your point about consensus, but I would submit that the consensus was comprised of a very limited number of editors.Coffee312 (talk) 21:30, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coffee312, no worries - I did appreciate the ping. This was probably not a situation where I was going to convince you of my assessment of consensus nor were you going to convince me I made a mistake. As an FYI, in case you ever need to file another DRV, it looks like you missed step 5 of the instructions. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Cheers

Merry Christmas, Barkeep49!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 23:49, 20 December 2016 (UTC) [reply]

Happy holidays


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NPP advice: Ram Prakash Dwivedi

Hi Barkeep49, I hope you don't mind if I ask for advice here rather than NPP talk (I don't want to add items that are easily resolvable). If you don't mind I just want to check that I am following procedure with Ram Prakash Dwivedi. Academic notability would be an area I know well and as written this article does not indicate it. A database search to establish the impact of his research in the field I did provides inconclusive results. However, it might be the case that the author of the article or someone with better access to Indian sources could update the article to satisfy a different criteria of academic notability, perhaps WP:NACADEMIC #2--I'm not sure. I added the PROD template based on the lack of secondary sources, the promotional tone, and the failure to clearly indicate academic notability. Should I have just nominated it straight for deletion instead? Or is it ok to use PROD with feedback to give an editor time for a major rewrite? AugusteBlanqui (talk) 09:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AugusteBlanqui, I always welcome questions especially as sometimes other talk page watchers who might have expertise to lend will chime in as well. Working backwards, I think editors should always choose the least disruptive deletion method and so there is nothing wrong with PROD'ing an article you believe, in good faith, not to be notable. If you think the likelihood of sources existing that you can't access is high enough then you should go to AfD but I don't think that's the case in this scenario. That said one small quibble - if you're PROD'ing (or CSD'ing) something it shouldn't be marked as reviewed (but it should be if you're going to AfD).
I think NACADEMIC #2 is generally pretty easy to find and it's more likely someone will claim an accomplishment satisfies that when it doesn't than it being excluded altogether. NACADEMIC is my least favorite SNG (give me a good FOOTY one any day instead) and I'm appreciative of people like you who patrol it. I see no indication that you got this wrong and think you took the right steps to evaluate notability. There is a margin of error in my evaluation as well but I think you should feel good about your process here. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:33, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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New Page Review newsletter December 2019

A graph showing the number of articles in the page curation feed from 12/21/18 - 12/20/19

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 Rosguill (talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 (talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG (talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 (talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 (talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn (talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter (talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth (talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

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Deletion of Devlin Waugh

You didn't give any reasons for deletion when you closed the AfD debate. Aren't you supposed to? Also you included another AfD debate in the closure template, which implies that you didn't know it was there, which further implies that you didn't read to the end. So how can I fairly conclude that you closed it in good faith? Richard75 (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seconded. I'm a bit stunned given how poor the AFD closing appears, with not only the claim that there were no sources provided during the AFD, when 3 sources were provided in 3 separate comments, and two of them weren't refuted during the AFD. How isn't this a relist, if not an outright overturn? Did you read my comments before closing the DRV? Nfitz (talk) 01:04, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Richard75, deletion review is not Articles for Deletion. In this instance, there had already been a deletion discussion about Devlin Waugh. You then appealed the close of this discussion to deletion review. At deletion review, the question is "were there errors in the process". A consensus of editors contributing suggested, no there were not and the original AfD close should be endorsed. Now if I made errors in my formatting I would love to fix those. I can tell you that I did indeed the to the end. Multiple times in fact and even considered how to weight the participation of how those who had contributed to the original discussion and those who were contributing for the first time at deletion review. I'm sorry you feel questions about the good faith of my close and other than assuring you I approached this with an open mind all I can offer are my answers to your questions above and others you might have. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:05, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nfitz: yes I did indeed see your overturn sentiment at DRV. Despite that I still saw a consensus endorsing the AfD closure. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:07, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Why no closing statement? How did you have the time to read it, let alone Multiple times in fact and even considered how to weight the participation of how those who had contributed to the original discussion and those who were contributing for the first time at deletion review given you closed the discussion 1 minutes after I posted my comment? Also, DRV isn't AFD - yet reading the AFD, there were two uncontested sources - and the one that people didn't agree was good, was undiscussed, and appears to be the best one. There maybe be problems with one of those sources, that people seemed to accept in the AFD, but that's not the AFD consensus. Nfitz (talk) 01:11, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nfitz, I had begun to close the AfD when your first response came in. I then modified the template at which time your response had been edited so I read it again to see what had changed before my edit went through. If it is helpful for me to add a short closing statement to the DRV I would be happy to do so and will do that after finishing this reply. As for the AfD itself I was not a participant in the AfD. Or the DRV. As a closer it is my responsibility to reflect the consensus of the participants in the discussion at DRV not to weigh in on what happened or didn't happen at AfD. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There was only one minute between my comment, and my edit - which means at best you had 2 minutes to read my comment, and consider it. Surely, if you are validating the closure - and the basis of the closure is that no sources were cited - when in actuality three sources were cited in 3 different comments during the AFD - and it's put forward (unchallenged!) that in the DRV that the closure is invalid because clearly whoever closed the AFD couldn't have read the AFD properly, given they missed all 3 comments pointing out sources - then you have to weigh in on what happened in the AfD! Nfitz (talk) 01:52, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nfitz, we both agree your comment came close to my close. I say I read it, twice because of edit conflicts. You write that I had 2 minutes at best to read your comment and consider it. These seem not to be in conflict with each other. If you're actually saying I didn't read your comment (or maybe didn't consider it) I can only tell you I did read it and did consider it. I agree with you as well that there is a consensus that the closing statement was incorrectly worded. That does not mean that Sandstein incorrectly closed the AfD. Indeed there is a consensus at DRV that he did not judge the AfD as a whole incorrectly. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:06, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Even when there's no disagreement that they could never have properly read the AFD? Ignoring that, I'm not convinced there is consensus here ... it's 6-5 (not that it's a vote) ... looking at the endorse comments, two only discuss the quality of the sources, rather than the AFD or the close itself, while two other focus on the sources. One says "not a supervote" ... uh, ok, but is it a valid close? The other merely references an irrelevant regional law principle - reversible error without noting why completely missing 3 different comments with sources isn't reversible. I suppose the outcome of no consensus rather than endorse isn't really any different - but I'm not sure appropriate time was given for anyone else to consider my comment. Nfitz (talk) 02:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

The Barnstar of Integrity
Thanks for standing up and participating as a candidate in the recent Arbcom elections. I know I encouraged you to consider doing so, and I was very happy to see your name on the list. I still hold that you are a solid candidate, and I hope you'll consider running again in the future. Risker (talk) 07:06, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Risker. I appreciate your thoughts throughout this process and look forward to our having a chance to collaborate sometime in the future. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:57, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for continuing to make Wikipedia the greatest project in the world. I hope you have an excellent holiday season. Lightburst (talk) 23:44, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

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Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas, Barkeep49!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 18:11, 22 December 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Be well at Christmas

Have a WikiChristmas and a PediaNewYear

Be well. Keep well. Have a lovely Christmas. SilkTork (talk) 17:42, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2 more sleeps!

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NPP

Hi. Except for the infernal and unabating backlog, I'm really pleased about the way the leadership of NPR is working out for you. I do realise however, that it's a huge task and big responsibility for one person. I did it single-handedly for nearly a decade and it's amazing how much time I have for other things now that I'm able to step back. You're almost certainly going to need some help and I was wondering that with Rosguill now having been granted the bit, if the two of you would consider sharing some of the work, with Rosguill as co-coord, and with ICPH as another. Most big projects have several coords. Anyway, it's really none of my business now, and it's entirely up to you.

May I take this opportunity to thank you for all you have done and and are still doing for NPP, and wish you all the best for the festivities (whichever you celebrate, if any) and happiness and good health for the New Year  :) Chris (Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:39, 24 December 2019 (UTC))[reply]

Request feedback

Hello Barkeep49. I’m writing to ask why did you delete the page Sprout Social I’ve created recently? Why did it look like an advertisement for you? Recently I created the article about Roger Souvereyns and it was published. I’m a new editor here so I’m just learning how everything works. I want to improve editing skills and would be glad if you could tell me the reason for the deletion. Thanks. --Alishka93 (talk) 08:44, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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