Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 9
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 9, 2020.
CJ Thorpe
Not mentioned at target article. OcelotCreeper (talk) 17:26, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- Disambiguate (1st choice), since this term is ambiguous (a Google search on the name reveals the first results are for a Penn State University football player, but I don't know if he's notable enough for an article, and it could also refer to the bassist of Bombay Monkey or possibly a writer of The Quietus (in which case his name is CJ Thorpe-Tracey) mentioned at Making a New World#Present Day), weak retarget to Bombay Monkey as an
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(2nd choice; this is its bassist's name), super weak retarget to Star Wars (film)#Development (3rd choice; a character by that name is mentioned there as the narrator of an early draft titled Journal of the Whillis), or delete (4th choice) if none of these work. On a side note, I had a classmate by that name back in high school. Regards, SONIC678 18:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC) - Retarget to Bombay Monkey per Sonic, as the ionly substantive mention in enwiki. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete as only a mention in the Bombay Monkey article, hardly any mention at Star Wars or the author. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom and AngusWOOF. CycloneYoris talk! 23:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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Teletherapy
- Teletherapy → External beam radiotherapy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I'm not sure if this is the appropriate target page for this redirect. This phrase could mean therapy for mental health that is online. I recommend that this either be disambiguated or retargeted. Interstellarity (talk) 11:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. This could mean anything. Therapy by telepathy? by telekinesis? by television? by televangelists? Or, therapy designed to counter an addiction to television? Narky Blert (talk) 18:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to Telehealth, as the most likely topic going forward. BD2412 T 03:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 19:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. The vast majority of teletherapy mentions on Wikipedia use the term in a radiation therapy context. There are a handful of mentions that use the term to refer to telehealth, telerehabilitation, and online counseling, so a disambiguation page may be useful, as well. I think we have a clear primary topic, though. - Eureka Lott 23:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Disambiguate No clear primary topic and can refer to many things including EBR, other radiation therapies and telehealth etc 1.Ayana (talk) 23:47, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. DAB page entries must either have relevant bluelinks or satisfy WP:DABMENTION. That would be impossible here. Narky Blert (talk) 08:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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Toyota 89CV
This appears to be the name of a racecar that currently has no article. Propose retarget to Toyota 88C-V until (or if) an article is created. TheAwesomeHwyh 21:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - According to WP:REDIRECT and WP:REDLINK, if the article does not exist yet then we should not have a redirect to some place that doesn't describe it just to avoid a red link. Instead, the red link provides hints to potential editors that here is something that they can create with their knowledge of the subject. Since the redirect to Toyota doesn't actually tell you anything about the race car, the current redirect is actually giving you no information about it and hiding the invitation to write a proper article for it. Stepho talk 22:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for now. At this time, there's no good place to point this. If we had an article on the car, the correct title would be Toyota 89C-V. - Eureka Lott 03:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Deep Depression
- Deep Depression → Tropical cyclone#Tropical depression (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Deep depression → Tropical cyclone#Tropical depression (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not sure what to do with this one. Mentioned at target article, but this seems to refer to Major depressive disorder and similar topics as much or more than it does for hurricanes. Hog Farm (talk) 16:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom and add the {{for}} template there. CrazyBoy826 (talk) 17:05, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- "Deep Depression" is an official term used in classifying the intensity of tropical cyclones (see Tropical_cyclone#Intensity_classifications), so the redirect should remain. However "deep depression" is not, and it would make more sense to redirect it to Major depressive disorder as suggested. Colonies Chris (talk) 19:00, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Colonies Chris: I fail to see how Deep Depression and deep depression are both not an official term used in classifying the intensity of tropical cyclones, after all, they are the same thing. However, do we really need the redirects, I dont think so.Jason Rees (talk) 15:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Jason Rees: Take a look at {{India Meteorological Department's Tropical Cyclone Intensity Scale}}. The capitalised forms are official designations with specific meanings. Whereas the uncapitalised form is just an informal description with no specifically defined meaning. Colonies Chris (talk) 19:26, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Colonies Chris: I fail to see how Deep Depression and deep depression are both not an official term used in classifying the intensity of tropical cyclones, after all, they are the same thing. However, do we really need the redirects, I dont think so.Jason Rees (talk) 15:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget as the usage medically is more important than the tropical cyclone one. NoahTalk 12:34, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I think they should both be redirected to Depression, which currently serves as a dab. I don't think we should have different redirects depending on capitalization. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:12, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget "Deep Depression" to Tropical cyclone scales#North Indian Ocean, where there is a brief explanation about the official term used for tropical cyclones. And then Retarget "deep depression" to Major depressive disorder as the nominator suggests. CycloneYoris talk! 00:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- I agree - this is an improvement on my suggestion above. Colonies Chris (talk) 07:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Retarget both to DAB page Depression. The preceding discussion shows that the expression is ambiguous. It would be a very bad idea to have different targets for different capitalisations, which would land users randomly on different pages. Narky Blert (talk) 08:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
NeoCon
- NeoCon → Merchandise Mart#Trade fairs (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Is a trade fair that doesn't even have its own article a more plausible search term than neoconservatism? pbp 21:24, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to neoconservatism. neocon already redirects to neoconservatism, and NeoCon could be a hypothetical alternate capitalization of the clipping for neoconservatism. Although this specific capitalization seems to be rare for neoconservatism specifically (after a brief Google search), it does receive some daily views (all pageviews mentioned are sourced from the Wikimedia Foundation Toolforge Pageviews Tool). Since January 2020, the redirect has received about 7 views per day, with no noticeable increase between March 17-20, 2020, which was the date range of NeoCon 2020's postponement and cancellation that received a fair amount of press (here, here, and here, for example). If most users were using the NeoCon redirect for the event, one would likely expect an increase during that time, although there does not seem to be any. Kʜᴜ'ʜᴀᴍɢᴀʙᴀ Kɪᴛᴀᴘ (parlez ici) 13:29, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget It appears to be a plausible contraction of neoconservatism and page views show that it is beating searched. Also, based on the fact that during the time the trade show was announced to be cancelled there was no change in page views it strongly indicates that it’s not the trade show that people typing the term meoVon are looking for.--69.157.252.96 (talk) 07:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Supermarket News
No logical connection, and appears to be a trend of redirections creased by suspicious account. ZimZalaBim talk 01:49, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Supermarket News appears to be a website affiliated with Informa. See [1]. A7V2 (talk) 07:24, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Enwiki has no information about "Supermarket News" but an uninhibited Search will reveal some mentions. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:06, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. No satisfactory target, let the search tool do its work. Narky Blert (talk) 13:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Supermarket News is published by Informa, hence the redirect to the Informa page. Supermarket News is a major source of news, rankings, and other information on the supermarket industry. The redirect gets several page views per day. The request for deletion is completely motivated by ad-hominem/personal reasons because the nominator did not like another one of my edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikieditor600 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Change something. I checked Ulrichsweb, which lists the publisher as Penton rather than as Informa — Penton's an Informa subsidiary, so the redirect isn't wrong, but if it's kept, it ought to be retargeted to the title given by this directory. (ISSN is 0039-5803 for the print version, published since 1952, and the web version the same URL that A7V2 provided.) Also, there's another Supermarket News, published by Elsevier beginning in 1989 or earlier, and apparently ending in 2019 or 2020. I don't see why an Informa Group title would be primary versus an Elsevier title, and it seems silly to create a disambiguation page when neither of the potential articles actually exists yet and our only choices are to link the publisher names on the disambiguation page. Deletion, therefore, is what I'm leaning toward. Nyttend backup (talk) 13:01, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Penton was dissolved and folded into Informa Wikieditor600 (talk) 04:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment I don't see any references to a supermarket news published by Elsevier. The one published by Informa is used as references in many Wikipedia articles and is well known in the industry.Wikieditor600 (talk) 04:25, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- You'll need to get access to Ulrich's Periodicals Directory, of which Ulrichsweb is the Internet-mounted edition. Meanwhile, if Penton were dissolved, it could be retained as an imprint. Is that the case, or is it not, or do you know? I don't generally pay attention to trade publications; the Informa imprints I watch are Taylor & Francis, CRC Press, Lawrence Erlbaum, Ashgate Publishing, Routledge, and others that produce monographs; serials are generally outside my experience, and I don't remember Penton as a publisher of monographs. Nyttend backup (talk) 19:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 21:20, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- The other "Supermarket News" does not seem to have a website or anything about it on the internet so it is likely not notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. The "Supermarket News" published by Informa is well-known in the industry and is cited in many Wikipedia articles. Regardless, the existence of another publication of the same name does not preclude the publication by Informa from having a Wikipedia page/redirect. If there is a Wikipedia page created for both versions of "Supermarket News", then there can be a disambiguation page but I do not see any reason that the other version is notable.Wikieditor600 (talk) 14:56, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Akira Fubuki
While there originally was an entry for Akira Fubuki at the target disambiguation page, the entry was simply circularly linked to this redirect, and does not belong on that page per WP:DABRED. I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:49, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator. Not mentioned anywhere in English Wikipedia, and her Japanese Wikipedia article provides no evidence of notability. (NSFW, don't Google her name.) 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not mentioned in English WP. Circular redirects anywhere are a confounded nuisance, and ones to DAB page something more than that. Narky Blert (talk) 08:17, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Li Changgeng
- Li Changgeng → Taibai Jinxing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, internet searches just returned results for contemporary people with this name. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 20:44, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment This is a transliteration of "李长庚", which is an alternative name for the target according to Baidu Baike (non-RS). zh:李長庚 exists, but is about a general who lived between 1752 - 1807. Other people with this name who prominently appear in search results include a musician and a general manager for a financial firm in Taiwan. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Direxion
- Direxion → Exchange-traded fund#Leveraged ETFs (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, I would suggest deletion. I see that this was originally created as an article and then converted to a redirect by the same editor 5 minutes later; if need be, we can procedurally close this discussion, restore the article, and proceed to an AfD discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 20:23, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Why do you think deleting this would be beneficial? Benjamin (talk) 22:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- When a reader types the name of a company into Wikipedia's search bar, they should get some explicit information about that company, not be sent to an article on a general class of products that doesn't mention the company at all. At best this leaves the reader, who is probably coming to Wikipedia because they know little about the company and need an introduction from the very basics, to guess that the company does some kind of business related to this product (but what kind of business? provider? commentator? auditor?). At worst this leads to mistaken inferences (e.g. "the company offers only this type of product and no others"). Search results (Special:Search/~Direxion) are always more informative than such a redirect. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to direction à la inflexion. --Soumyabrata talk contribs subpages 08:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Close restored the article below the redirect, and expanded it. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Pribyslavitz
- Pribyslavitz → Přibyslavice (Prague-East District) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Mbdfar has asserted that Pribyslavitz is the anglicized term from the video game to refer to this specific village of Přibyslavice. Those searching for the real life analog would use this name
. I cannot find any evidence online, on Wikipedia or on Google Scholar that this is the case. If sources backing up this interpretation, I would suggest either redirecting to Kingdom Come: Deliverance, or possibly deletion, as it does not appear to currently be mentioned at that target. signed, Rosguill talk 20:18, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Rosguill, I'll admit, this is a tough one to prove. All I can say is that it is common for the German words for Czech locations often switch the -ice ending for itz, (see German words for Czech locations). Hence, Přibyslavice becomes Pribyslavitz. I was going off of the location in the game (see gameplay map) where it is referred to as Pribyslavitz. If this is insubstantial, I would support a redirect to Přibyslavice as it could theoretically be used for any location of this name. Mbdfar (talk) 21:27, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. German WP has two articles on places called de:Přibyslavice, and neither has this German exonym (rather, Přibyslavice/Przibislawitz and Pribislaw/Přibislawitz). Czech WP has articles on four places, cs:Přibyslavice, and gives German exonyms for three of them: Przibislawitz/Pschibislawitz, Pribislaw and Pschibislawitz. Neither German nor Czech WP knows any Pribyslavitz. Přibyslavice (Prague-East District) (no equivalent in German or Czech) asserts that the village is called Pribyslavitz in Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Google searches show that that game takes place in Pribyslavitz, which was razed in 1390 or 1391; but I could find nothing to connect it with Přibyslavice (Prague-East District) or anywhere else, and it may be fictional. That is all too tenuous to keep this redirect. Narky Blert (talk) 08:47, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Keepper confirmation from game designer Dan Vávra (see tweet). To reiterate, the majority of people looking for this location would search the term 'Pribyslavitz' as used in the American version of the video game. Mbdfar (talk) 00:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)- Per that confirmation, I wonder whether the better target may not still be Kingdom Come: Deliverance, as it seems like the game is the only place this spelling is used per Narky's comment above. Anyone further interested in the inspiration for the location can follow links from that page to Přibyslavice (Prague-East District) signed, Rosguill talk 00:32, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Rosguill, I think keeping the more specific redirect makes sense. Narky Blert also noted that this is the only known location be called this term. If people are using the search bar to find this village, I think it would be more user friendly to keep the redirect as it is. I don't see the benefit to having people scrolling to find the article link on the KCD page. Mbdfar (talk) 00:55, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Mbdfar, I'm not seeing why we should assume that they're searching for the village to find the real-life equivalent, rather than information about it related to the game itself. If we point the search term to Kingdom_Come:_Deliverance#Setting, then they won't need to scroll at all. signed, Rosguill talk 01:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Rosguill, that is a valid point. I suppose I was projecting my own interests a bit. If you believe it to be the best course of action, I support your idea of a retarget to Kingdom_Come:_Deliverance#Setting. I appreciate the discussion. Mbdfar (talk) 01:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Mbdfar, I'm not seeing why we should assume that they're searching for the village to find the real-life equivalent, rather than information about it related to the game itself. If we point the search term to Kingdom_Come:_Deliverance#Setting, then they won't need to scroll at all. signed, Rosguill talk 01:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Rosguill, I think keeping the more specific redirect makes sense. Narky Blert also noted that this is the only known location be called this term. If people are using the search bar to find this village, I think it would be more user friendly to keep the redirect as it is. I don't see the benefit to having people scrolling to find the article link on the KCD page. Mbdfar (talk) 00:55, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Per that confirmation, I wonder whether the better target may not still be Kingdom Come: Deliverance, as it seems like the game is the only place this spelling is used per Narky's comment above. Anyone further interested in the inspiration for the location can follow links from that page to Přibyslavice (Prague-East District) signed, Rosguill talk 00:32, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
10 Things You Need to Know About Losing Weight
- 10 Things You Need to Know About Losing Weight → BBC#2011 to present (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This appears to just be the name of a documentary they made- not sure if this redirect is necessary. TheAwesomeHwyh 19:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Delete- as stated, it appears to have been a one-off documentary, but looking at the history of the article it looks like it just listed the '10 things' rather than any information about the actual documentary, so can't be restored as a stub. It's not particularly useful as it stands. Bob talk 23:05, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, might be more useful as a redirect to Michael Mosley (broadcaster), in which case it's not really doing any harm. Bob talk 23:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
HMS Javelin (F12)
- HMS Javelin (F12) → HMS Kashmir (F12) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirects to HMS Kashmir, but there's no indication, either in that article or in the top google results, that the Kashmir was ever named Javelin at any time, or that any such entity as "HMS Javelin F12" ever existed.
There's another Javelin (HMS Javelin (F61)), and "HMS Javelin" alone redirects to her.
It's a problem because searching on "HMS Javelin" brings up both the real Javelin and this redirect to Kashmir in the search results, and its confusing. If and when sourced material is written into the article showing that the Kashmire was ever named Javelin, then this redirect can be recreated, and possibly HMS Javelin made into a disambig page. Herostratus (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC) Herostratus (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I believe that the two ships swapped names while under construction, but I don't enough of a possibility of confusing the two to warrant a redirect.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. In any case, a redirect to an article that doesn't then explain why you're there is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:20, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Fooball
Implausible typo - see this and this. CrazyBoy826 (talk) 17:13, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Update: this could easily be confused between Football, Foosball, and Gooball. CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) 21:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Or is it “im-pausable”? However, the linked discussions were about its use in disambiguators and other context while this is the single word itself. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- @1234qwer1234qwer4: But this was created after the above discussions were made. CycloneYoris talk! 21:11, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. In fact it should be speedy deleted per its recent creation. Can be easily confused with Foosball, so it’s misleading and unnecessary. CycloneYoris talk! 20:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Plausible typo and redirects are cheap. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Weak delete Per the previous RfDs linked, but part of me does think that it is somewhat plausible. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:44, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per CycloneYoris.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 05:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, tentatively – it is slightly ambiguous but should be used enough to outweigh that ambiguity. Hardly implausible; there's even this. — J947 [cont] 05:45, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy delete. Ambiguous misspelling (foosball, football or gooball?), redirect created (possibly WP:POINTedly having regard to recent discussions here) on 9 May 2020. Narky Blert (talk) 08:51, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Ambiguous misspellings have no value. —Xezbeth (talk) 14:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous (though it's slightly more plausible as a misspelling for football than for foosball). – Uanfala (talk) 15:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 15:23, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - not needed, ambiguous. GiantSnowman 15:24, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 20:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and is subject to WP:XY (Foosball vs Football). If you really want to keep the redirect, then consider disambiguating it, but it is not that useful. --Soumyabrata talk contribs subpages 04:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and WP:XY --DannyS712 (talk) 06:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Keepsee Element (mathematics)#Notation and terminology the definitions and character encodings of these symbols are in that section. CrazyBoy826 (talk) 18:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)- @CrazyBoy826: No, not of these. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:02, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete there are symbols in that page, but they are of similar symbols and not of these.
Planck rotational inertia
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was already speedily deleted. (non-admin closure) 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Planck rotational inertia → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck specific heat capacity → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Planck torque → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Planck electrical conductivity → Planck units#Derived units (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Implausible redirects created by Ahri6279 who is globally blocked CrazyBoy826 (talk) 17:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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V*
May also mean a dual space. I suggest disambiguating. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Disambiguate: I immediately assumed that this was dual space due to the
V
(which has extra prominence for notating vector spaces, while the Kleene star notation is just a general*
). — MarkH21talk 18:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC) - Disambiguate per above.CrazyBoy826 (talk) 18:24, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: In both meanings, "V" is an arbitrary variable name. Although vector spaces are favorably named "V", other names are used as well (e.g. "W"). We wouldn't have a direct of (a+b)^2 and (x+y)^2 and ... to binomial theorem, either. - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 14:24, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: In both meanings this is the * that is meaningful, not the whole expression. In fact, both meanings, are listed in * (but surprisingly none in * (disambiguation)). Having this redirect is exactly the same as having a redirect for yellow tulip because many tulips are yellow (fortunately, this redirect does not exist). D.Lazard (talk) 14:58, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Ford
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- The result of the discussion was procedural close. Wrong forum: this is a move request. - Eureka Lott 17:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
A common last name and plenty of notable people with this last name including Rob Ford and Gerald Ford 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 16:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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Please review two previous move requests at Talk:Ford (disambiguation) – wbm1058 (talk) 02:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Anime and Manga
There is also a article on Manga as well 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 16:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Weak retarget to Portal:Anime and manga if that is desirable, otherwise clear case of WP:XY. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete WP:XY CrazyBoy826 (talk) 23:40, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- @CrazyBoy826: That is not a speedy criterion. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:52, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY. Do not retarget to Portal:Anime and manga per WP:XNR. Narky Blert (talk) 09:02, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Retarget to Glossary of anime and manga where the terms are prominently linked and defined, thus satisfying WP:XY. These are closely related words that are frequently grouped together (eg: Template:Anime and manga, Category:Anime and manga fandom, Portal:Anime and manga), so it is plausible for them to be searched together in mainspace. -- Tavix (talk) 16:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
4-sphere
Either refine to the section N-sphere#Specific spheres or retarget to Five-dimensional space#Hypersphere. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:42, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- My preference goes to N-sphere#Specific spheres as the new target. Pichpich (talk) 14:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as it is, per WP:LEAST: A reader should not be surprised by the replacement of 4 by N, but most readers may be surprised to not getting the definition of a 4-sphere, and getting instead a technical specific property (there is no definition in the first proposed target; the second proposed target contains a definition, but it does not apply to 4-spheres that are not embedded in the five-dimensional space). D.Lazard (talk) 16:20, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as is. Like D.Lazard, I think the current target is less confusing that the proposed alternative. XOR'easter (talk) 18:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, otherwise Retarget to N-sphere#Specific spheres: It should definitely point to the N-sphere article instead of the 5-dimensional space article, since the former has much more information relevant to the properties of the 4-sphere (namely properties that are true for all n-spheres). Ambivalent about whether it should point at the section, with a slight preference for the general article per D.Lazard. — MarkH21talk 18:22, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Jaime ellis
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was delete per WP:CSD#G10 King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:36, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Jaime ellis → Infidelity (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
WP:R#DELETE nonsense, unsure what this means or how it relates to the target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 11:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - it looks like an indirect attack page.Ingratis (talk) 11:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete there is Jamie Ellis, but I think retargeting there is a bad idea, given the wrong capitalisation, different spelling, and the attack that would remain in the history. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 11:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete implausible typo and capitalisation error. CrazyBoy826 (talk) 23:41, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
Tagal, Indonesia
- Tagal, Indonesia (disambiguation) → Tegal (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I don't know if "Tagal" is a common misspelling for the Indonesian place (Tegal city or related Tegal Regency). If it is then Tagal, Indonesia can be kept. Tagal, Indonesia (disambiguation), however, serves no purpose. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete It is not common to spell Tegal with Tagal --Tensa Februari (talk) 06:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
The Samsung Group
- The Samsung Group → Samsung (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- The Sony Corporation → Sony (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlikely search term, we don't have similar formatted redirects like The Microsoft Corporation, The Google Inc., The Apple Inc, etc. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:28, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:CHEAP, and tag as {{unprintworthy}}. Narky Blert (talk) 05:42, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, there are nothing wrong with these redirects. The fact that other redirects don't exist is irrelevant. I think The Microsoft Corporation would make a good redirect, but the Inc. ones don't make sense. -- Tavix (talk) 21:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per above. - Flori4nKT A L K 02:37, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per above. CrazyBoy826 (talk) 16:06, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Cortirion
- Cortirion → The Silmarillion#Development of the text (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned in target article, delete unless justification and/or mention is provided. Hog Farm (talk) 18:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- It's an early name for Valinor#Tirion, so we could have a mention there if anyone thinks it worthwhile. Apparently it turned into the real town of Warwick. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 20:59, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 00:46, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Happineſs
Thiſ appearſ to be ſpelt with the archaic long letter "ſ" which ſerved a ſimilar purpoſe to the letter "s". Unlikely that anyone would type thiſ ſpelling. TheAwesomeHwyh 00:33, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, unlikely spelling. CycloneYoris talk! 01:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, I don't see how people could search thiſ with mixed alphabetſ, like Latin and Cyrillic letterſ together. Regardſ, SONIC678 04:18, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per above. This isn't the 18th century. Narky Blert (talk) 05:44, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Comment A large batch of these were created at the same time in 2014. We deleted one other (horſe) in October 2016. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Deleten all – This is not the 18th century. Redirects with the archaic long letter "ſ" ſhould be forbidden on Wikipedia.
- Alſo, the archaic long letter "ſ" is neuer uſed at the end of the word. --Soumyabrata talk contribs ſubpages 08:18, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, that's pretty intereſting. Thanks for the ſurprising piece of information, ſoumyabrata! TheAwesomeHwyh 19:13, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep and tag as a {{r from alternative spelling}}. It's old-fashioned, but it's not wrong. This is how it's spelled in the United States Declaration of Independence: "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happineſs." - Eureka Lott 14:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as there are many other redirects on Wikipedia that are spelt this way. Also, the US Declaration of Independence was spelled like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrazyBoy826 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- I've signed this comment for you, please remember to sign your comments in the future! TheAwesomeHwyh 19:25, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per Eureka Lott and the previous consensus. -- Tavix (talk) 21:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_October_8#Horſe, as the character can be interchanged for regular 's' when used as a search term, only one pageview in the 90 days prior to this RfD. @Tavix: Can you please explain why you viewed this one differently from the previous RfD linked above? - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:20, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- This spelling is used in the United States Declaration of Independence. -- Tavix (talk) 00:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- So, what's next? Naſa, outer ſpace? --Soumyabrata talk contribs subpages 09:08, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I don't see how that's relevant here—the first is a proper noun coined after the long s disappeared from usage, and the second does not have any prominent usage due to the fact that outer space was not written about in any noteworthy way while the long s was popular. -- Tavix (talk) 11:44, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- So, what's next? Naſa, outer ſpace? --Soumyabrata talk contribs subpages 09:08, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- This spelling is used in the United States Declaration of Independence. -- Tavix (talk) 00:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all per WP:Not a dictionary. Such a redirect would make sense only if there were notable cases where this spelling is commonly used and could lead to a search in WP. Apparently this is not the case for any of these redirects. This does not prevent to have a Wiktionary entry for all those words that occur in the United States Declaration of Independence. D.Lazard (talk) 11:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- WP:RPURPOSE says that one of the purposes of a redirect is for alternative spellings, and the U. S. Declaration of Independence attests this alternative spelling in a prominent way. -- Tavix (talk) 11:44, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Then fill the Wiktionary with the attested words containing archaic long letter "ſ". --Soumyabrata talk contribs subpages 04:43, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Wiktionary consensus appears to forbid both entries and redirects for ſ spellings. See wikt:Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2010/January#ſ (long s) typographic variants. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 05:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Then fill the Wiktionary with the attested words containing archaic long letter "ſ". --Soumyabrata talk contribs subpages 04:43, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Keep spellings for words that were in use before the retirement of the long s. This isn't the 18th century, but I feel Wikipedia should redirect archaic forms to modern ones, and this was in use. Also while "the character can be interchanged for regular 's' when used as a search term" I also consider hand-typed URLs in the web browser search bars, which do not do this. I like to be comprehensive when writing redirects. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:01, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all. The only argument for its usefulness would be that someone might search for it if they came across it in an old text. But if they don't recognize that the ſ is supposed to be an s (thus allowing them to search the term normally), then surely they wouldn't be capable of typing a ſ either. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:40, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all Useless and not needed on Wikipedia but might be fine on Wiktionary 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 16:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC)