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Haqeeqat (1964 film)

I have tried to expand this article, Haqeeqat (1964 film), 5x so as to allow a dyk hook. But I am falling short by a few lines and references. Any suggestions related to what else can be added and where that information is? DTM (talk) 07:40, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • When you started expanding the article had Prose size (text only): 1667 B (280 words) "readable prose size". Now the article has Prose size (text only): 9855 B (1681 words) "readable prose size". So, prose size has been expanded 5.9118176364727 times. Anyway, I think the plot section can be expanded a little bit. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 18:26, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Titodutta, thank you so much for this precise explanation. The plot size, okay. DTM (talk) 09:43, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Finding verifiable sources for "Maina Gawankar"

I'm trying to help Mihir_nanthur (talk · contribs) find a source to verify their claim of a Maina Gawankar who apparently was, in Mihir's words, "A lady who spent 22 years on bed and 1 amongst the first few women criminal lawyers of maharashtra." With some help from the WP:Teahouse another reference to (potentially) the same person was found on Samyukta_Maharashtra_Samiti.

Some quick internet searches didn't find much, but I don't have any context or ability to read Hindi, so I may be missing something. SpurriousCorrelation 07:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible from the archives you could retrieve something. Was a leading lady for the Maharashtra Samyukta Morcha. The movement established for the indenpence of Maharashtra as a state. Was handicapped sitting on the streets of Delhi during the cold winters. Mihir nanthur (talk) 07:17, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Custom searches

I seem to recall that WikiProject India had some custom searches, scripts or something, because Google is poor at indexing Indian topics. Are these still about? --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:08, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks for that! --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:49, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Military Collegiate School Khulna

Is there any reason why this unsourced article should not be stubified? -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 18:23, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd start by removing the fancruft, and getting rid of the indicscript from the lede, then see what is left. Zindor (talk) 20:54, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If by fancruft you mean unsourced, then there would be nothing left. I dont think that WP:FANCRUFT covers this as it's about something else entirely. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 13:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Roxy the dog: I did mean fancruft. Example:

The boys' wing is split up into 4 houses and the girls' wing into 2. Competitions are held on the basis of these houses, and points are awarded to the champion and runner-up houses. At the end of the year the house with the most points is awarded the Overall Championship. Classes and other academic activities are held in the aptly named Academic Building, which is equipped with multimedia classrooms, ballrooms, physics, chemistry and biology labs and offices for teachers, the vice-principle and other support staff. "

Even if that was sourced we'd be removing it because it goes into minutiae that are probably only of interest to students at the school. If there's a more precise term for that other than fancruft, i apologise. I was just suggesting a way to discriminate against the worst of the unsourced content. I'm not mad into axe-swinging myself. I hope that clears this up. Regards, Zindor (talk) 16:59, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think I see what you mean, thanks very much. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 17:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I chopped a bunch out a few days ago, not enough to call it stubified though. There's still lots of unsourced stuff, but it's not as crufty as it was. I tried to leave things that I thought would be somewhat easy to source, even if just a primary source. I certainly won't complain if more gets removed (including the para cited above). Ravensfire (talk) 19:44, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Had the article been in its current condition when I first saw it, I would not have dreamed of commenting here. I think good work has been done. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 20:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong page move

Pijushghosh1 has moved Jangipur, West Bengal, a town page, to Jangipur Municipality. I think it is a wrong page move and needs to be reverted. I request someone to please take necessary action. He also created a page Jangipur district, which I have made Jangipur police district as per references. - Chandan Guha (talk) 00:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chandan Guha, that does look odd. I suspect what's happened here is that Pijushghosh1 has for some reason tried to re-disambiguate the title as a municipality but not realised that there is also a town of the same name in Uttar Pradesh. Also we currently have Jangipur village as primary topic, which is more than likely wrong. There's a few things going on here, so i'd like to hear from the editor first before i start moving stuff around. Zindor (talk) 16:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Other places with the same name is not a major problem. It can be taken care of by adding a disambiguation page. 'Municipality' has a specific meaning and such pages are meant for the civic body of the town and not the town itself. There are numerous municipality/ municipal corporation pages, separate from the towns/cities - Kolkata and Kolkata Municipal Corporation and so many others. Moreover, earlier the page was Jangipur, West Bengal. The disambiguation was there already. It is definitely not a disambiguation problem. - Chandan Guha (talk) 23:49, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, i concur with what you say, however i think we can capitalize on this situation and fix the primary topic issue. The village article occupying Jangipur should move to Jangipur, Jaunpur, and Jangipur Municipality should move to Jangipur; as a round-robin swap. We can then put a hat-note on the top of Jangipur with a link to the town in UP.
I'm not opposed to Jangipur Municipality moving back to Jangipur, West Bengal, but i feel we'll be missing an opportunity to occupy the primary topic title. Thoughts? Zindor (talk) 00:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you'd like a disambigutation page at Jangipur, which would be a great idea. Zindor (talk)
I would prefer a disambiguation page, as we also have Jangipur subdivision and Jangipur police district. Moreover, I am not sure whether we can move the page without admin support. - Chandan Guha (talk) 00:41, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
We can move Jangipur to Jangipur, Jaunpur, which would leave behind a redirect. We then just convert the redirect page into a disambiguation page. Separately Jangipur Municipality gets moved back to Jangipur, West Bengal, and we place a speedy tag on the redirect it creates. Zindor (talk) 01:39, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done @Chandan Guha: Should be resolved now Zindor (talk) 19:06, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I disambiguated it by district because i've clarified the state on the disambiguation page. This avoids having to get an admin involved; but if you still feel it's necessary to disambiguate the title by the state, a request at WP:requested moves would get it done fast. Thanks Zindor (talk) 19:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. I will create the disambiguation page. - Chandan Guha (talk) 21:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! That's also done. Fine, thank you. - Chandan Guha (talk) 21:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For Hindi speakers

Please participate in Talk:2020_Delhi_riots#Hail_Lord_Rama_is_biased_translation_for_Jai_shree_Ram. Eatcha 11:13, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:De-Industrialization in India

This draft is pretty badly sourced, but I'm guessing it is largely accurate, and it's on an encyclopedic topic. Should it be approved to mainspace for further development? Or left for eventual WP:G13 deletion in draftspace? Or does anyone want to adopt it? Thanks, Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:08, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article already exists at Deindustrialisation in India. Some content definitely looks merge-worthy, but it is difficult without inline cites. – SD0001 (talk) 18:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale

A couple of editors have made large scale changes to this article [1]. In particular, the tone of the lead is quite different. Could be fine but FYI. --RegentsPark (comment) 01:15, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red Asian women contest

From 1 October to 31 December, Women in Red is running a virtual contest on Asian women. In November, this will coincide with Wikipedia Asian Month. We look forward to strong participation from all those interested in improving coverage of Indian women.--Ipigott (talk) 16:05, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Indian Express

I find it surprising that this article has had those ugly maintenance tags on it for nearly a decade. It is one of the best newspapers in India (I would say it's the best – doesn't publish press releases like The Hindu). But all my attempts to find sources are failing due to the generic nature of the term; there a ton of results citing IE, but nothing about IE itself.

Is anyone else able to find sources? – SD0001 (talk) 17:06, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SD0001: one way to cleanup the result pages would be to instead search for the topics surrounding the newspaper, such as it's founder or publishing company. Fortunately, Express' founder was quite famous and well known Ramnath Goenka. A search for Ramnath Goenka on JSTOR (using the Wikipedia Library Card Platform) brings up quite good sources like this, from the Economic & Political Weekly. PS: this Caravan Magazine feature is a nice read, if not as useful as the JSTOR sources. Regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 17:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A search for Ramnath Goenka on Google Books brings up this interesting book containing some useful information about many Indian newspapers. This might be useful too. Regards, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 18:10, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks TryKid and Bluerasberry. Looking at those sources, I couldn't add much to Indian Express itself, though I ended up adding bits to related articles like Media of India. That one from EPW looks interesting, but only if I knew the background.

I am wondering whether this piece can be considered reliable? The founding editor of the site has a book on the topic published by the Oxford University Press, so looks credible to me. Just wanted to double-check. – SD0001 (talk) 05:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Du Chakay Duniya

Can someone who knows Bengali see if this is a hoax? It looks pretty fishy to me, but would be super interesting if true. I found one English-language ref that looks reliable—[2]—but otherwise pretty much nothing. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 04:36, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@AleatoryPonderings: It's not unknown for Indian-language books of this period to have no virtually zero coverage online. The book is real for sure -- it's listed on flipkart and goodreads. An article exists for the author which is sourced entirely to book sources, at least one of which has an ISBN that doesn't match anything on WorldCat/GBooks/OpenLibrary (!) but still is real as I found a mention of it in a journal. – SD0001 (talk) 04:54, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Assam gas and oil leak

I've been working on the 2020 Assam gas and oil leak page, and was wondering if a more experienced editor could take a look and let me know how to improve it. I could also use some help with sourcing images for the article. Thanks! --Naushervan (talk) 06:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indian subcontinent

A complex RfC is going on, after a long bout of edit war. Uninvolved editors needed at the discussion. Aditya(talk • contribs) 06:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pasi (caste) discussion

The tone of the article Pasi (caste) is not neutral and sound biased whereas the use of the word like untouchable and emphasising Dalit and pig-rearers on the basis old unverified testimony is questionable which is offensive and obliterates as per the law of the land which was questioned same by the High court of Mumbai. I've added Dalit word is offensive and obliterates section for the discussion your feedback will help the article to improve. — Sanskari Hangout 08:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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