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==''Importance'' versus ''Priority''==
Hello! I hope I didn't offend you [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council#Importance_assessments_of_biographies here]. I was not concerned about how to assess biograhies, only about the use of ''Importance'' versus ''Priority'' in doing so, where guideline looks like it's being disregarded by some people almost to an extreme. --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 22:54, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
:Asked a question on my talk. [[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 20:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
::How could we go about, if at all, trying to stop a user from continuing to use "Importance", rather than as per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide/WikiProject#.22Importance.22 guideline] using "Priority", in assessing a huge amoung of biographies? --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 22:27, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
:::I've followed your advice at [[Template talk:WPBannerMeta]], and I hope it's OK that I used some of your wording, since I don't really feel I know what I'm doing. Thank you in any case! --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 05:20, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
::::Is is unreasonable of me to ask [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Tomas_e the user I've seen ignoring the guideline for years] to stop for now, while the [[Template talk:WPBannerMeta]] is ongoing? --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 00:02, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Could you please explain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:WPBannerMeta#Moving_forward here], sir, why you directed me to that talk page? The main input person in that discussion does not seem to understand that and keeps referring me elsewhere. --[[User:SergeWoodzing|SergeWoodzing]] ([[User talk:SergeWoodzing|talk]]) 21:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


== Introducing the new WikiProject Ghana! ==
== Invitation ==


Greetings!
Since you offered to comment on my talk page, you're welcome to chime in on the conversation at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Creation%E2%80%93evolution_controversy&action=edit#Appeal_to_scientific_consensus_section] regarding a new section with multiple reliable sources.--[[User:GodBlessYou2|GodBlessYou2]] ([[User talk:GodBlessYou2|talk]]) 05:53, 15 January 2015 (UTC)


[[File:Flag of Ghana.svg|right|150px|alt=The flag of Hampshire]]
== Astronomy Project and DRN ==
I am happy to introduce you to the new '''WikiProject Ghana'''! The newly designed WikiProject features automatically updated work lists, article quality class predictions, and a feed that tracks discussions on the 3,474 talk pages tagged by the WikiProject. Our hope is that these new tools will help you as a Wikipedia editor interested in Ghana.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Ghana|Browse the new WikiProject page]]
* '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Ghana/Members|Become a member today!]]''' – members have access to an opt-in notification system


Hope to see you join! [[User:Harej|Harej]] ([[User talk:Harej|talk]]) 20:48, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
If you want to try to moderate the Astronomy issue, you are welcome to do so, but I don't see an issue that can be addressed by moderated discussion. There are complaints about an editor's use of a tool. The privilege of using a tool isn't within the scope of DRN (as you know). There are also questions about capitalization, and I agree with you that discussion should probably be at [[WT:MOS|the MOS talk page]], possibly with an RFC. Good luck, but it looks like a case heading for general closure. [[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 03:49, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
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== A barnstar for you! ==
== [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Christianity and Sexuality]] opened ==


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You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Christianity and Sexuality]]. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Christianity and Sexuality/Evidence]]. '''Please add your evidence by February 2, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes.''' You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Christianity and Sexuality/Workshop]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]]. For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 09:16, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thank you for your kind comments about my Quality improvement efforts to Wikipedia, at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment&oldid=687061993#Amendment_request:_Cirt_and_Jayen466 my appeal request] to work on Quality improvement for an article I'd previously brought to [[WP:GA]] quality, ''[[Typewriter in the Sky]]''.
You didn't have to go over there and put yourself on the line like that and comment on my behalf, but you did anyways, and I thank you for it.


I'll continue to strive to better Wikipedia by engaging in the Quality improvement process, and bring articles to [[WP:GA]] and [[WP:FA]] quality.
== There is a new WikiProject you may be interested in ==
[[File:Lede Improvement Team.JPG|50px]] This is a form letter sent out to members of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Lead section cleanup|WikiProject Lead section cleanup]].


I'll work with my mentor {{u|The Rambling Man}} and do my best to learn from his example and guidance.
I am contacting you because you are listed as a participant of the now defunct [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Lead section cleanup|WikiProject Lead section cleanup]]. I have created a new WikiProject, [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Lede Improvement Team|WikiProject Lede Improvement Team]] ([[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lede Improvement Team#WikiProject Lead section cleanup already exists|name subject to change]]), that likely has the same goals as the project that you signed up for was supposed to have. If improving the lede sections of articles is something you are still interested in, please stop by and add yourself as a participant. As well, if you have any thoughts regarding your previous experience with lede section cleanup, please stop by and share them. Thank you, &#160;<span style="background:#fff;padding:0px 6px;font-family:Garamond;font-weight:bold;letter-spacing:5px;border:1px dotted black">[[User:DiscantX|<span style="color:red;">Discant</span>]][[User talk:DiscantX|<span style="color:#000;">X</span>]]</span> 08:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


Thank you, &mdash; '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 23:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
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:{{U|Cirt}}, believe me when I say that you don't have much that you need to learn from anyone around here, and I sincerely hope that the Arbs come to realize that soon. Your contributions are some of the most consistently impressive we have around here, and it is an honor to be able to help out in a small way someone who has done as much as you have, over as long as you have been here, and still has the spirit and drive to improve this site that you have. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 18:14, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
::Thank you, {{u|John Carter}}. I hope, in time, your views regarding my Quality improvement efforts will be shared by more editors within our Wikipedia community. Hopefully someday. :) But for now, I'll go back to attempting to improve the articles that I can &mdash; to higher levels of quality including [[WP:GA]] and [[WP:FA]]. If you've got any advice on how to bring about the change in perspective you wish for, above, {{u|John Carter}}, I'd appreciate it. &mdash; '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 19:09, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


== Precious anniversary ==
Could you have a look at the conversation mentioned? Puzzles me a bit. --[[User:Catflap08|Catflap08]] ([[User talk:Catflap08|talk]]) 11:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Catflap08}} Any particular indicators exactly whose comments or which comments? There seem to have been quite a few lately. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 15:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The ones about the Ogasawara incident. --[[User:Catflap08|Catflap08]] ([[User talk:Catflap08|talk]]) 18:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
==Ongoing WER Consultation==
I wonder if I might cut you recent comment to the thread ''How many women have been involved in these discussions?'' and start a new thread titled 'Special characteristics. There are so many lively threads, which is great, but I'm sure you know that keeping editors on thread topic is like herding cats. Thanks for all you involvement at WER. Sidebar: In case you ever want some "consulting" or insight on one individuals experiences (Me) I just wanted to say that I have taken the Est course (70's), Lifespring (80's) and Landmark (2000+). I watched a little bit of the recent case to combine the articles but I stayed on the sidelines. Also, in the 60's, I was the Building Engineer for a multi-use building in Evanston that had as one of its major tenants----The Church of Scientology. I don't know why I needed to say all that but I just wanted you to know. I never once felt there was the least bit of similarity between Scientology and the other three...even in recruiting techniques. [[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 21:33, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Buster7}} A new section sounds good. Regarding Scientology/Landmark and the others, believe me when I say anyone who knows anything about the topic would be welcome. The idea isn't really so much to merge est/Landmark/etc. but to create a central article, if there is cause for one, which there seems to be. Maybe. Maybe est should be a separate article - honestly, I still don't know. I doubt that there is much real "similarity" between them, other than the fact that they are profit oriented and in the same basic area - actually, if they were similar, one would probably have beat out the other in competition. I think I said to Liz I could even see Scientology become really revived and maybe even theologically interesting if it had a "gospel writer" to update Hubbard, but I don't think that likely to happen. Personally, I've kind of been waiting for NYB to return, which he said he'll do tomorrow, because I think he might be the best "drafter" for anyway RfC proposals which might be put forward. And, maybe, for helping figure out how to format the discussion. None of those I requested involve themselves, other than I think Keithbob, Liz and Maunus, have shown any interest in taking part, but the Macedonia arb was resolved with only three uninvolved parties, so even a small number will do. Maybe check the Landmark talk page for the next few days and see if anything actually happens. At heart, I would like to see the issue resolved, one way or another, and maybe the content improved to a level where most people will leave it alone and spend time more productively elsewhere. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 21:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|Buster7}} as the first wound up being a typo. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 21:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:::*I have just now invited Editor LightBreather to invite the 80 or so editors from the members list that seem to her as though they may be women. I realize I do it with a little tongue in cheek trying to make the point that we can't really know the gender of an editor. Its really too bad that the discussion and the focus is now on this tangent but ......[[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 08:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:::After todays events [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEric_Corbett&diff=644131309&oldid=644130371] and the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement|potential for future upsetting events]]I have stepped aside from any talk facilitating or involvement for at least a month. Rumor has it that you may soon be talking a months sabbatical. I'll facilitate the Eddy Award stuff but that's all. I look forward to working with you again in March.[[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 23:07, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


{{user precious anniversary|1068}} --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:29, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
== Religions of the Hebrew Bible (Spring 2015) -- starting soon ==


Four years now! Miss you. --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 07:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
John,
Just wanted to let my course starts tomorrow. We meet M and Ws. I'm not asking students to do anything with Wikipedia until after the first two class sessions, but some may want to begin sooner.


== ArbCom reform proposal ==
Thank you again for your willingness to serve as an online ambassador for the course! [[Education Program:Miami University/Religions of the Hebrew Bible (Spring 2015)]]


Just thinking here. Maybe one way to revise things might be to create an umbrella entity, perhaps a Dispute Resolution Committee, which might be eligible for election.
Take care, [[User:ProfGray|ProfGray]] ([[User talk:ProfGray|talk]]) 19:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


At least in my eyes, one of the big reasons for the problems of the ArbCom last year was that both [[User:Newyorkbrad]] and [[User:Kirill Lokshin]] were gone, and there were no immediately obvious replacements for them. [[User:Doug Weller]] and [[User:DGG]], the two members of the board who would at least strike me as being the leading candidates for the sage positions vacated by those two, were both new that year, and, given the greatly reduced number of cases lately, it took a while for them to know the ropes and the others to learn how they work. The reduced caseload and possible/probable loss of institutional memory with the loss of old hands could well have been one of the big problems then.
== This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2015) ==


I know a hell of a lot less about MedCom and other entities, but I think maybe one way to ensure that we don't lose the institutional memory aspect might be to create a DRC from which the arbs for any individual case can be drawn. Granted, I don't expect Brad to want to join every case after retirement, God knows I wouldn't want to, but it could very easily be very beneficial for the other members of the committee to have access to him for a particular case, maybe even in a "rotating chair" or something like that.


So, as a sort of proposal, have elections every year to elect a largish number of members of DRC or similar. Say, for instance, 60 members. All qualified editors are welcome to sign a predetermined number of petitions for candidates, up to and including "draft" petitions, and those which get sufficient signatures are on the ballot. Then, allow each qualified editor to vote, preferably for only a smaller number of candidates, for instance 30. The top 60 votegetters are determined, and then those 60 individuals cast the final, deciding, public votes for who are the 12 individuals on the "standing" ArbCom, MedCom, ArbCom clerks, AE enforcers, and the like. I figure only about half of those 60 would actually get "standing" positions, which is really what I would want. This would give the bottom 30 finishers a chance to maybe take one a case or two to see if they really want to do that. preferably with the help of an old hand, and maybe more actively seek a "standing" position in a following year if they want to take that role on regularly.
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But, if all 60 were, at least theoretically, capable of filling any of the positions for a given year, we might have a much better chance of avoiding the discontinuity of community memory and leadership which I think happened when Kirll and Brad left the ArbCom.
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Anyway, any ideas? [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 18:14, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
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*1) Arb com is complicated enough already.. We should be looking at procedures to simplify the process.
== Thank you ==
:2) Perhaps I have a prejudice here, but the difficulties last year were not due to lack of experience of myself or the other new people. If anything, perhaps there were last year altogether too many people on that committee whose long experience led them to an apparent commitment to entrenched ways of doing things; I at least certainly felt difficulty in getting an effective voice, especially in internal discussions. But the real difficulties were due to the unfortunate but unavoidable situation that several major cases had no really satisfactory solution. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 18:33, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
::Well, you, having been there and all, would probably know a hell of a lot more about it than me, who wasn't there. :) But, maybe, the "entrenchment" you speak of might be a symptom of loss of earlier leadership, I dunno. Regarding simplification, I think in a sense this might be a bit simpler. One of the problems that several have commented on is that few people really read the questions to candidates, and the sometimes questionable nature of the questions, and act however they would anyway, generally based on possibly questionable opinion they have as outsiders to the system who know the system even less than well than I might. Creating a publicly seen final discussion among the electeds might make it easier for at least that select group to deal with what they might see as real issues involved. And, a proposal like this, of the House/Senate type, sort of, might be a bit easier for a lot of people in the US anyway to understand, although I admit it might be harder for non-US people or people who don't have a bicameral system to follow. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 19:02, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
:I'm not quite clear on your proposal: how are the 48 members not on the standing sub-committee "drawn" to participate in an arbitration committee task? Are you envisioning that for each task, be it a case, an appeal review, responding to incoming email, and so forth, that X number of people be drawn from the pool of 48, and added to those from the standing sub-committee who are also participating in the task? On a side note, I don't see how this relates to a bicameral system, where there are two separate deliberative bodies, and they act as a balance for each other. (Unless you are suggesting that any task be replicated by the standing sub-committee and the rest of the larger committee, independently?) This is more like an organization forming a sub-committee with a set of standing members and a set of rotating guest members. [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 03:49, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::First, I think it worth noting that the proposed board is where not only the ArbCom itself would be drawn from, but also maybe the MedCom, the Arb clerks, the regular AE enforcers, and other similar functionaries be drawn from. Basically, if something like this were done, the 60 or so would elect all the holders of those positions, which would probably be about 30 or so people. The other 30 who aren't selected and haven't yet filled such functions could, at request, if they wanted to, maybe ask to take part in specific processes (individual Arb cases, Med cases, clerking for a single case, etc.) which more or less requires selection of some sort, as either an observer or additional member of the "team", under the supervision of an existing "team" member to see if they might think they want to more actively seek such a post in the future. And, yeah, you're right, it is more like legislative committee appointments and officer selection than a bicameral legislature. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 14:48, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the additional clarification of your ideas. From your description, it sounds more like a pool of alternate members, or a pool of apprentices. [[User:Isaacl|isaacl]] ([[User talk:Isaacl|talk]]) 23:10, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


== [[Isidor Sauers]] - skeptic? ==
Thanks for your support at ANI. I'm at my wits end trying to make edits to New Jersey. I have no idea how this has been allowed to go on for so long. I'm about to move on to some other state. He's just made it so unhappy there. Cheers. [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 02:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)


I was just casting around for things to clean up and fix in Wikiproject Skepticism, and I noticed the article [[Isidor Sauers]]. WAY back in October 2007 you tagged into the project (here's the diff: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Isidor_Sauers&diff=162363740&oldid=77095948]). I'm just curious - why? I've pored over the current state of the article and done some Googling of this fellow and I can't for the life of me figure out his connection to Skepticism. Apologies in advance if I'm missing something obvious here. --[[User:Krelnik|Krelnik]] ([[User talk:Krelnik|talk]]) 19:59, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
== A barnstar for you! ==
:{{ping|Krelnik}} I'm guessing the article has been changed a bit since then, maybe. That page is currently included in the [[:Category:Scientific skepticism]], and that was probably the reason for the tagging, but it might be that the content supporting for that categorization has been perhaps removed. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 17:42, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
::I thought the same thing, but I dug around in the article history, and I can't find any "smoking gun" removals of text that might explain it. Here is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isidor_Sauers&oldid=151821759 what the article looked like] the day you tagged it. Ah well, just one of those mysteries I guess. --[[User:Krelnik|Krelnik]] ([[User talk:Krelnik|talk]]) 18:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


== Alejo Carpentier and WikiProject African diaspora ==
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Hi {{PAGENAME}}, Just wondering why you added [[Alejo Carpentier]] to the list of articles "belonging" to [[wp:WikiProject African diaspora]] and rated it '''importance=Top''' on 22 August 2012? Thanks in advance, [[User:Ottawahitech|Ottawahitech]] ([[User talk:Ottawahitech|talk]]) 13:55, 9 October 2016 (UTC){{small|please [[wp:Notifications|ping]] me}}
:Thank you very much. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 00:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


== [[WP:ACE2016|ArbCom Elections 2016]]: Voting now open! ==
== ARCA ==


{{Ivmbox|Hello, John Carter. Voting in the '''[[WP:ACE2016|2016 Arbitration Committee elections]]''' is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.
{{ping|NE Ent}}, while I acknowledge your statement at ARCA is obviously true, that doesn't address the question raised. Nor does the recent apparent retirement of someone who retired an earlier name already, only to come back under a new name, indicate that even that retirement is necessarily likely to be of any long term. Your current comment could be seen as indicating that the request should not go forward, and I hope that perhaps you modify your comment to indicate that the request does not become invalid, either in this particular case or in general. I honestly don't know if the situation has been raised before, but I have difficulty imagining it might not be raised again. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 00:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:And my apologies for misusing my privilege of editing this talk page during the current proceedings. However, I do think that the thank you to {{ping|Catflap08}} and request for clarification were justified, and thought it perhaps worth running the risk of violation of talk page editing privileges anyway. My word, which I think is of some value, is hereby given that I have no intentions of doing so any further. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 00:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


The [[WP:ARBCOM|Arbitration Committee]] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|Wikipedia arbitration process]]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose [[WP:BAN|site bans]], [[WP:TBAN|topic bans]], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy|arbitration policy]] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
==As a WER coordinator==
I wonder if you could add [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Nominations]] to your watchlist. I don't expect you to second nominations (that is what the page is for, although that would nice). Rarely there is a discussion regarding policy. There is one now. Your input would be helpful. [[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 21:38, 27 January 2015 (UTC)


If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2016/Candidates|the candidates' statements]] and submit your choices on '''[[Special:SecurePoll/vote/399|the voting page]]'''. [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
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== Trump difficulties ==
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Hello <b><font color="Black">John Carter</font></b>,


The Donald Trump article will be an extremely hard article to bring up to average Wikipedia standards, not to mention GA or FA. It will probably involve much fighting and many months. Either that or one group of people will wear out the other 2-3 groups. Compounding the problem is that Trump is very controversial. About 52% of people voting did not want him. Another 25% had negative feelings toward him even though they voted for him. That leaves maybe 20% that either support him a little or a lot, 80% don't like him or viciously hate him.
I'll be putting out a formal update sometime soon, but I wanted to inform you that I've decided to push our start date back to mid-February rather than in January. There are number of reasons for this, but the biggest factor is that we are now facing the hard work of implementing our designs on the [[:Help:MediaWiki_namespace|Mediawiki interface]]. It's a limiting environment to work with from a web-building perspective, and the team that worked on [[WP:TEAHOUSE|the Teahouse]] can offer similar testimonials to these challenges. We also want to make sure there is time for us and for you to test the environment out, ask questions at our project's [[WT:Co-op|talk page]], and give us a little time to make any last changes before we start inviting editors to the space. If some of you know you will be unavailable during this time, it's totally fine if you need to bow out for the pilot. But we do need all the mentors we can get, so even if you can take the time to mentor just one or two editors, that would be fantastic.<br/>
Thanks a bunch,
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I feel it is beyond my expertise to fight a talk page battle so I will leave it to more experienced hands like you (or 3 others that I wrote to). Below is a link to my sandbox, which shows an edited version that does 3 things. 1. It fixes the jumping back and forth of related areas that are placed apart (there's quite a bit of that). 2. Trims down some trivia. 3. The lead represents a better summary and also is the permitted 4 paragraphs. I did not edit the political and campaign sections yet and don't intend to.
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Here is the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Usernamen1/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=754347721
== Arbitration clarification request closed ==


Consider commenting on the Donald Trump talk page about this sample revision. I do not plan on extensive discussion on the talk page and will leave it up to you. Let me know what you think.
Hi John, just letting you know that I've [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Ebionites 3#Clarification request: Ebionites 3 (January 2015)|archived an arbitration clarification request]] which you filed. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 10:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)


Disclaimer: I am a foreigner and not a registered Republican or Democrat. [[User:Usernamen1|Usernamen1]] ([[User talk:Usernamen1|talk]]) 05:02, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
== This week's [[Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement|article for improvement]] (week 6, 2015) ==


== Your help in a Catholic saint article ==


Dear sir I had made a request for TFA of [[Mother Teresa]] i have seen it has a multiple of issues and I have seen it has been removed from Good article list also I request your help in the article as I find u more helpful in making the article great in a Catholic topic --[[User:Tiven2240|'''<span style="background color: black; color: orange">✝iѵ</span><span style="color: blue">ɛɳ</span>'''<span style="color: green">२२४०</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tiven2240|<span style="color: maroon">†ลℓк †๏ мэ</span>]]</sup> 07:27, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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See my talk page - I got tipped off - and [https://www.welt.de/kultur/article160303017/Hat-die-deutsche-Wikipedia-ein-AfD-Problem.html here] in ''Die Welt''. [[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir|talk]]) 21:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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== WP: RETENTION ==
==Thank you==
And a happy new year as well [[User:JarrahTree|JarrahTree]] 23:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
You may well be semi retired - I think of full retirement when I encounter some of the genius and sheer mindless perversity on this damned thing, but, you have always been there to help with the damned project tweaking, it is both appreciated and honoured - and may it serve you well sir ! (I am sure that it channelling a John Lennon line, but damned if I can remember from where ) [[User:JarrahTree|JarrahTree]] 23:23, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
:At this point, I am far from being an everyday editor here like a lot of others are, which is a form of retirement, and am also trying to develop wikisource on my own, and, maybe, talking others into it, which reduces the amount of time I spend here. And I thank you for your very kind words above. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 23:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::I am now even honoured to have you as an eminent page stalker while I sleep (at 8+), my thanks and appreciation moves higher... may your capacity to sleep well in face of the world changing friday, this friday be allayed (or should that be ''the propensity and propinquity for sleep'' if we allow the terms to invade wikipedia talk pages) by residence in a country of very strange people [[User:JarrahTree|JarrahTree]] 00:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


== Additional thanks ==
We haven't forgotten you. We await your return. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:40, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
:When that happens, I hope to have at least a few more works done or at least close to done over at Wikisource for use by editors here. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 16:51, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
::About a week to go. We're waiting for ya. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 03:34, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
::Hopefully, by that time, I might have some of the articles from some of James Hastings' old books, and some other sources, available as well. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 16:06, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
:::While you're on this forced vacation can you take a look at [[User talk:Buster Spade]] and tell me what you think. It's like a pre-nomination stage where the idea is to engage wiki-friends and get them involved in the process and share their experiences to make the nom more specific. When it (contact with a cohort) has happened in the past the result is awesome. You too, GD. Your input is always welcome. . [[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 16:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


Thanks for your comment at EP. I'm always glad to hear that I'm not ''totally'' off-base. ~ [[User:J. Johnson|J.&nbsp;Johnson (JJ)]] ([[User_talk:J. Johnson#top|talk]]) 00:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
WELCOME BACK. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 22:41, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Hey GoodDay. Go to [[User talk:Buster Spade]] and share your thoughts. Thanks, . [[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 22:55, 26 February 2015 (UTC)


== Formal mediation has been requested ==
== Need input on a Maldivian name ==
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== [[Zuyud]] ==
== This week's [[Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement|article for improvement]] (week 7, 2015) ==
Hey, so, in 2008 you created this article Zuyud, with the "Gazetteer of the United Arab Emirates. Washington, D.C. : Defense Mapping Agency, 1987" as a reference. I have not for the life of me been able to find a copy of this document (or book? I'm not sure) to verify or find any other information about this place. Do you still have your copy, or know where to find one? And if so, could you point me towards it? I haven't been able to find any other sources for anything about Zuyud and I'm hoping that the Gazetteer might help. &spades;[[User:PMC|PMC]]&spades; [[User_talk:PMC|(talk)]] 18:22, 20 January 2017 (U
:{{ping|PMC}} It is listed at WorldCat [http://www.worldcat.org/title/gazetteer-of-the-united-arab-emirates-names-approved-by-the-united-states-board-on-geographic-names/oclc/16285789 here] but from what I remember it didn't have much more than I added to that article, considering it is public domain as a government publication and I could reproduce most if not all of it anyway. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 01:32, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks! Not sure if my Google-fu was weak or what but I couldn't find it for the life of me. :) &spades;[[User:Premeditated Chaos|PMC]]&spades; [[User_talk:Premeditated Chaos|(talk)]] 02:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)


== RfC on "No paid editing for Admins" at [[WT:COI]] ==


I've relisted an RfC that was run at [[WT:Admin]] in Sept. 2015. It is at [[Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest#Concrete proposal 3]] as there are a number of similar proposals going on at the same place. Better to keep them together. [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]]<sub>([[User talk:Smallbones|<span style="color:#cc6600;">smalltalk</span>]])</sub> 04:31, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
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But now that he's posted to the article talk page I doubt he'll read mine. There is something weird going on with the university press release. Nothing Jordanian is a reliable source fir this so far as I can see. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 21:21, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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== Re: Talk:St. Joseph's Cathedral, Asmara ==
'''Has WikiProject X changed the world yet? No.'''
Well, {{u|Til Eulenspiegel}} was once of those I was alluding to -- he also edited as {{u|Codex Sinaiticus}} at first, I believe -- but the one I was indirectly praising was {{u|Yom}}, who wrote some of the Ethiopian articles which properly were graded as GAs. (And I seriously wish would come back & contribute more.) In any case, we never had more than 3 or at most 4 editors at once who were fluent in Amharic, Tigrigna, or Somali, so even banning one would be banning a significant share of them. And if we include all three languages, I believe as many as three or four who have these skills have been banned. ''Sigh''. It would be nice if this were a statistical anomaly, but IMHO they are more zealous about getting their viewpoints into Wikipedia than is good for them. It's a symptom of living in a part of the world where freedom of speech cannot be taken for granted. -- [[User:Llywrch|llywrch]] ([[User talk:Llywrch|talk]]) 00:20, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


== Red-linked categories ==
We opened up shop last month and announced our existence to the world. Our first phase is the "research" phase, consisting mostly of reading and listening. We set up our [[Wikipedia:WikiProject X|landing page]] and started collecting [[Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Stories|stories]]. So far, '''28 stories''' have been shared about WikiProjects, describing a variety of experiences across numerous WikiProjects. A recurring story involves a WikiProject that starts off strong but has trouble continuing to stay active. Most people describe using WikiProjects as a way to get feedback from other editors. Some quotes:
* "Working on requested articles, utilising the reliable sources section, and having an active WikiProject to ask questions in really helped me learn how to edit Wikipedia and looking back I don't know how long I would have stayed editing without that project." – Sam Walton on WikiProject Video Games
* "I believe that the main problem of the Wikiprojects is that they are complicated to use. There should be a a much simpler way to check what do do, what needs to be improved etc." – Tetra quark
* "In the late 2000s, WikiProject Film tried to emulate WP:MILHIST in having coordinators and elections. Unfortunately, this was not sustainable and ultimately fell apart." – Erik


Hi John
Of course, these are just anecdotes. While they demonstrate what is possible, they do not necessarily explain what is typical. We will be using this information in conjunction with a quantitative analysis of WikiProjects, as documented [[meta:Research:WikiProjects and Subject Area Activity (English Wikipedia)|on Meta]]. Particularly, we are interested in the measurement of WikiProject activity as it relates to overall editing in that WikiProject's subject area.


I have removed 3 red-linked categories from your userpage, by converting them to links.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:John_Carter&diff=766592509&oldid=761315755] So the text still displays, just a little differently.
We also have '''50 people and projects''' signed up for pilot testing, which is an excellent start! (An important caveat: one person volunteering a WikiProject does not mean the WikiProject as a whole is interested; just that there is at least ''one person'', which is a start.)


I know that they were intended to be humorous (and I particularly like "Bozos with delusions of self-propelled interstellar travel"), but unfortunately the category system was not designed to be used this way. Per [[WP:REDNOT]], ''either the category should be created, or else the nonexistent category link should be removed or changed ''.
While carrying out our research, we are documenting the problems with WikiProjects and our ideas for making WikiProjects better. Some ideas include better integration of existing tools into WikiProjects, recommendations of WikiProjects for people to join, and improved coordination with [[WP:AFC|Articles for Creation]]. These are just ideas that may or may not make it to the design phase; we will see. We are also working with [[WP:COUNCIL|WikiProject Council]] to improve the directory of WikiProjects, with the goal of a reliable, self-updating WikiProject directory. Stay tuned! If you have any ideas, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject X|leave a note on our talk page]].


That's because categories are intended for navigation, so unlike articles (where redlinks are often appropriate), redlinked categories are always an error: they are a broken form of navigation. That's why there are there various tools to help identify them and either remove them or turn them blue. The most useful tool is [[Special:WantedCategories]], which amends itself to strike out categories which have been reslved. Unfortunately the work of editors who go through that list fixing the errors is impeded by the presence on that list of userpage categories which are intended to remain as redlinks. So some of the errors never get cleared, and the first page in particular has many such categories. This obviously makes the cleanup harder.
That's all for now. Thank you for subscribing!


I wasn't aware of this myself until last month, and when I saw how my redlinked categories were impeding cleanup, I removed them, and got to work assisting the cleanup. I hope you'll agree that converting the categories to redlinks isn't too big a price to pay for helping maintain the category system.
– [[User:Harej|Harej]] 17:21, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
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Best wishes, --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 01:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
== About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote ==


:I may be confused but this seems like part of a two-pronged "attack" whereby the cat specialists are arguing that redlinked categories cause maintenance problems and that, when converted to bluelinks, they should be deleted per USERCAT. There is an ongoing discussion, the latest being a RfC, in which you, BHG, has been vociferous. Assuming that I have read it correctly (and it is convoluted, so perhaps I have not), this conversion appears to be rather disingenuous. I know for sure that the cat people have messed around like this before but I'd rather hoped that you were above such shenanigans. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 01:44, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi John Carter. I am Piotr Konieczny ([[User:Piotrus]]), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable [https://hanyang.academia.edu/PiotrKonieczny here]) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 [[WP:SOPA]]). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors ''did not'' take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (92nd), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Piotrus/Research/Reasons_for_non-participation_in_the_2012_SOPA_vote#Survey a short survey at meta], which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please [[WP:ECHO]] me. Thank you! --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 01:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
::Sitush, a little AGF please. There are no shenanigans. There is a genuine maintenance problem, as outlined above.
::If there is a consensus to allow new types of user category, so be it. But whatever happens there, redlinked categories impede maintenance. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 02:11, 21 February 2017 (UTC)


== Saint Nicholas / Santa Clause.... ==
== WP:Co-op news for December 2014 – Feburary 2015 ==


[[File:CO-OP Logo 2.png|75px|right]]
Hey {{BASEPAGENAME}}, it's been a while. The Co-op team has been hard at work during over the winter, so let's get right into what's been happening:
[[File:Co-op - LandingPageDraft.png|right|200px|thumb|Landing page draft. You know it's a draft when you need to squint at the logo, ha ha.]]
*'''Graphic design work is nearing completion''' and '''development work is coming along slowly but surely'''. The main components of the space, profiles, the landing page, and the mentor landing page have all been built, and we're basically just putting the pieces together. We have close-to-final draft of the landing page, which is currently at [[User:Slalani/Landing_page]], and in the thumbnail to the right. You can check out other components over at [[:User:Slalani]] if you're curious. {{noping|Soni}}, {{noping|Slalani}}, and I are working together on some of the front page elements. We've also been doing some testing on [http://test.wikipedia.org/ test.wikipedia.org] for profile building and matching. If you're curious about checking that out, let me know.
*'''We've finished up a survey for newer editors''' to assess their experiences of using existing help spaces (e.g. [[WP:REFDESK|Reference Desk]], [[WP:TEAHOUSE|Teahouse]], [[WP:IRC|IRC]], [[WP:TWA|The Wikipedia Adventure]]) on en.wikipedia. {{u|Gabrielm199}} is putting together a summary of that survey, and in the meantime, some findings from that survey of 45 newer editors include:
**On average, editors found contributing to Wikipedia to be easier after using the help space compared to before.
***However, after using one or more help spaces, only half of editors reported that editing, addressing social challenges, and resolving technical issues were easy or very easy. The other half of editors were either neutral, or reported that these matters were difficult or very difficult.
**Just under 30% (11 of 38 editors) of newer editors said they probably would have stopped editing entirely had they not received support from the help space they used.
**Editors frequently reported either 1) that they would not have been learn what they needed without the help space, or 2) That they could have found it, but admitted that it would have been difficult or taken much longer.
*'''We will be making one final move of the pilot start date to March 4th, 2015.''' This is the last move (I promise), because we can't afford to run the pilot any later than that. So there it is: '''March 4th or bust!''' But we won't bust, because there are just a few things left on our plate before we can run our pilot successfully. '''I'll be alerting you about when you will be able to make mentor profiles soon''', so when you get a message about that, please take a minute or two to create your profile here (otherwise, you won't get matched to any editors!).
Thanks to all of the new mentors who have joined over the past few months. Big thanks to {{noping|Missvain}} to posting about our little project here to the [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap gendergap-l mailing list]. [[User:I JethroBT|<b style="font-family:Candara;color:green">I, JethroBT</b>]][[User talk:I JethroBT| <sup>drop me a line</sup>]] 00:47, 13 February 2015 (UTC) on behalf of '''[[WP:Co-op|Wikipedia:Co-op]]'''.


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In the Article Page Saint Nicholas......


I placed in references to the Book St Nicholas by Joe Wheeler & Jim Rosental......
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However they have been changed to a vague and un-sourced wording.....
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Could a ruling be made about sources and references, particularly, when someone is using sources for their own thoughts and writings.... ???
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I have quoted my comments in the talk page..... below:
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"..............In the Article Page..... the key reference to the Saint's name is now:


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"....Saint Nicholas became the model for Santa Claus, whose modern name comes from the Dutch Sinterklaas, itself from a series of elisions and corruptions of the transliteration of "Saint Nikolaos." When the Dutch originally came to America and established the colony of New Amsterdam, they brought the legend and traditions of Sinterklaas with them. The New Amsterdam Dutch later shortened "Sinterklaas" to "Santa Claus." [53]......."
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This has the only direct reference to Joe Wheeler & Jim Rosental's book St Nicholas.....
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The direct wording is...... Pg 166:
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"... The New Amsterdam Dutch shortened "Sinterklaas" to "Santa Claus". They mean the same thing: "Holy" or Saint" Nicholas....."
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There is no mention of "the model of Santa Claus"...... There is no mention of: " a series of elisions and corruptions of the transliteration of Saint Nikolaos..."
===See Jimbo's Page and ANI===


That is foreign to the book...... and the reference does not fit......
See Jimbo's page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=648731603#ANI_I_started_to_have_my_actions_and_Chillum.27s_actions_scrutinized] and ANI[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=648662600#I_am_evading_a_block_but_not_a_sock_for_which_I_was_blocked_Self_Reported] <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/172.56.32.8|172.56.32.8]] ([[User talk:172.56.32.8|talk]]) 03:22, 25 February 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


The proper reference to this has to be found.... or it has to be deleted......
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"a series of elisions and corruptions" indicates that there was a history of the change of the name..... Hence, a reference is needed for this.....


Using the book mentioned to this vague reference dishonours the Authors of the book......
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I will be seeking a category listing and ruling on vague / un-sourced entries.....
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This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you commented on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:
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'''[[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Allow private schools to be characterized as non-affiliated as well as religious, in infobox?]]'''
[[File:FRG-2a-Allied West Germany-1 Deutsche Mark (1948).jpg|right|thumb|One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1]]
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Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.
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*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Rodw}} developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking ''[[Magna Carta]]'' there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
*And last but not least, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Godot13}} worked up a number of [[WP:FP|Featured Pictures]] during round 1, including the 1948 one [[Deutsche Mark]] ''(pictured right)'', receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.


The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:
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*15 June 2015 RfC: '''[[Template talk:Infobox person/Archive 28#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion|RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion]]'''.
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The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of '''omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' "''' and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, '''institutions''' etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "'''in any article'''".
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The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:
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*31 December 2015 RfC: '''[[Template talk:Infobox/Archive 11#RfC: Religion in infoboxes|RfC: Religion in infoboxes]]'''.
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The result of that RfC was that the "'''in all Wikipedia articles, without exception''', nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".
[[File:FRG-2a-Allied West Germany-1 Deutsche Mark (1948).jpg|right|thumb|One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1]]
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Freikorp}} owing most of his 622 points scored to a [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] on the 2001 film ''[[Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within]]'' which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant5|Godot13}} had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant4|Sturmvogel_66}} led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.


Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 04:22, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
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*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|AHeneen}} worked-up the [[Malaysia Airlines Flight 370]] article, also to Good Article status;
*{{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Rodw}} developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking ''[[Magna Carta]]'' there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
*And last but not least, {{Wikipedia:WikiCup/Participant6|Godot13}} worked up a number of [[WP:FP|Featured Pictures]] during round 1, including the 1948 one [[Deutsche Mark]] ''(pictured right)'', receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.


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The Catechetical School of Alexandria......
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There are two Article Pages of the subject where there should be just one. The School developed and grew greatly and was joined by many from East & West. It was in existence before Pantœnus, but he made it famous... The Article Page needs to be re-written. The historical beginnings and development is obscured in the two Article Pages.... MacOfJesus (talk) 15:25, 28 September 2017 (UTC)


The two Article Pages are: 1/ [[Alexandrian School]] & 2/ [[Catechetical School of Alexandria]].... The origins of the one School go back to St Mark, Second Gospel writer, according to St Jerome....
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Such an important School that developed into a seat of learning and excellence to be shrouded in obscurity gives credence to many Universities and Colleges refusing their pupils to use anything from Wikipedia... MacOfJesus (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
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How do I go about 'proving' my position.... I have with me the Historical accounts.... This key page is in disarray.... [[User:Bernard Mc Nally|MacOfJesus]] ([[User talk:Bernard Mc Nally|talk]]) 08:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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Dear John Carter,
Yes. I am talking about [[Gary Habermas]] who as has written extensively on the Resurrection of Jesus.

See: Talk:Gospel of Mark Son of God Mark 1:1 for the reply to my question I asked Gary Habermas.
Thank you for having an interest in this subject. I suspect he was ignorant of the answer. [[User:Miistermagico|Miistermagico]] ([[User talk:Miistermagico|talk]]) 18:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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Hi {{u|John Carter}},

I'm failing to find a way to parse [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=814918231&oldid=814908995 this edit] of yours in a way that relates it to the thread preceding it. Might you perhaps have intended to place it in reply to a different entry elsewhere?

Thanks for your time and attention, ––[[User:A Fellow Editor|A Fellow editor]] [[User talk:A Fellow Editpr|talk]] 11 December 2017 (UTC)
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: I would have thought the connection rather obvious. Another respondent had commented on suggestions for articles not yet here or in poor shape. I provided a link to a few pages listing among other things articles in other reference books, some of which we don't have yet, and an indication of where many more works containing encyclopedic content we probably don't have yet can be found. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 20:17, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
:: {{tq|q=yes|Another respondent had commented on suggestions for articles not yet here or in poor shape.}}
::... in <u>''[[User Talk:Jimbo Wales#Beyond reproach?|§ Beyond reproach?]]''</u> of [[User Talk:Jimbo Wales]]??? I think one of us may still be missing something (could be me). Please quote and link to the specific passage you responded to so I can better follow what you're getting at. ––[[User:A Fellow Editor|Fellow]] [[User talk:A Fellow Editor|Editor]]</b></b>– 23:12, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
::::::I think it would have to be you who missed HJMitchell's comment two comments above my own.[[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 18:06, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Ah! you're intent was to suggest (to me, somewhat indirectly in an unsigned comment) other possible things to focus on, yes? ––[[User:A Fellow Editor|A Fellow]] [[User talk:A Fellow Editor|Editor]]</b></b>– 18:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Yes and I think that you really need to maybe learn a bit more about the project by maybe reading policies and guidelines. Also, FWIW, my comment was clearly signed, so I don't know what unsigned comment you are referring to. May I suggest that you do something recommended to you either there or here before posting here again, as, at this point, I don't see much if any benefit to further conversation here. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 18:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
{{outdent|:::::::}}My apologies, it was an instance of Template:Undated, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=next&oldid=814996517 as so,] which had caught my eye, not Template:Unsigned. I've been a Wikipedia editor for multiple years and have read quite a bit of [[WP:P&G]] ... Is there perhaps something of particular relevance you'd like to draw my attention to? ––[[User:A Fellow Editor|A Fellow]] [[User talk:A Fellow Editor|Editor]] 20:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

== Misplaced? comment ==

I believe you put [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Donald_Trump&diff=815153724&oldid=815150734 this] in the wrong place. Your first comment, and my reply to it, are two sections above that. &#8213;[[User:Mandruss|<span style="color:#775C57;">'''''Mandruss'''''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mandruss|<span style="color:#999;">&#9742;</span>]] 02:50, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
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== December 2017 (deux) ==

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== Recent statement at ARCA ==

Hi John Carter,

I have [[Special:Diff/817528823|removed]] a recent statement you made at [[WP:ARCA]] in accordance with your [[Special:Diff/761985265|community-imposed interaction ban]]. The edit does not fall under the [[WP:BANEX|dispute resolution exception]] because you are not engaging in dispute resolution ''with respect to your IBAN''. Requests for reconsideration of this clerk action should be directed to the Arbitration Committee at {{email|arbcom-l|lists.wikimedia.org}}.

For the Arbitration Committee, '''[[User:L235|Kevin]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[User talk:L235#top|t]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) 00:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

== Blocked ==

Given [[Special:Diff/817515713|this diff]], you have violated your interaction ban with {{U|Hijiri88}}. Given that your previous block for violating the interaction ban stemmed from initiating an arbitration proceeding related to Hijiri88, I believe a [[Reasonable person|reasonable editor]] in your position should have known that the edit you made was a clear violation of the ban. In particular, your comment [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:L235&diff=prev&oldid=817530163 here] doesn't make much sense to me given the circumstances surrounding your first block. You've been blocked for one week for the IBAN violation. (And as a cautionary note, please be sure not to violate your IBAN while responding to this message.) ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small><sub>13</sub></small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 06:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

I have closed the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#John_Carter_violated_his_IBAN_again ANI discussion]. Please note that there is a consensus that further infringements will result in a longer block, possibly even indefinite. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 12:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
:I would go so far as to say “probably” an indefinite block. An IBAN is considered a “last warning” and repeatedly poking at the edges of it has led to many an indef block or even site ban, so in the futre, please, if there is '''any''' chance a particular edit could be taken as violating the ban, don’t make that edit. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:56, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

== ARCA ==
An amendment request, requesting suspension of [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Catflap08 and Hijiri88#Hijiri88: Topic ban (I)|Remedy 3]] of ''Catflap08 and Hijiri88'' case has been archived at [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Catflap08 and Hijiri88]]. The case has been amended as following: <br>
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[[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Catflap08 and Hijiri88#Hijiri88: Topic ban (I)|Remedy 3]] (Hijiri88: Topic ban (I)) of the ''{{ArbCase|Catflap08 and Hijiri88}}'' arbitration case is suspended for a period of six months. During the period of suspension, this restriction may be reinstated by any uninvolved administrator, as an [[WP:AC/PR#Enforcement|arbitration enforcement action]], should Hijiri88 fail to adhere to any [[Wikipedia:List of policies and guidelines|normal editorial process or expectations]] in the area defined in the topic ban remedy. After six months from the date this motion is enacted, if the restriction has not been reinstated or any reinstatements have been successfully appealed to the Arbitration Committee, the restriction will automatically lapse.
:''Passed 8 to 0 with 1 abstention by [[Special:Permalink/818238698#Catflap08 and Hijiri88: Motion|motion]] at 12:38, 2 January 2018 (UTC)''
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For the Arbitration Committee, [[User:Kostas20142|Kostas20142]] ([[User talk:Kostas20142|talk]]) 13:31, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

== February 2018 ==
<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px">[[File:Stop x nuvola.svg|40px|left|alt=Stop icon]]<div style="margin-left:45px">You have been '''[[WP:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Indefinite_blocks|indefinitely]]''' from editing for an apparent unwillingness or inability to follow an interaction ban. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beeblebrox&diff=823510854&oldid=823472054]. </div><div style="margin-left:45px">If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the [[WP:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]], then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;''}}. &nbsp;[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 18:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)</div></div><!-- Template:uw-block -->

*Received your email. I don’t know why you wouldn’t be able to edit this page, I just double checked to make sure I hadn’t accidentally set the block for that, and it looks like you should have access. My only guess is that maybe you aren’t logged in, as your IP would be autoblocked as well. If that’s not it and you still can’t edit here, send me another email with the exact message you are seeing when trying to edit this page and I will look into it. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 21:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

{{unblock reviewed | 1=No clear evidence of my intentionally violating an interaction ban was presented. My attention was drawn in the first instance regarding the Bible verse article by the ANI thread on the topic now at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive973]] which contains neither a comment from the other individual nor any mention of him. On that basis, I believe it can reasonably be stated that the interaction was basically accidental, unless we are now declaring that the edit history of an article has to be thoroughly checked before any comments can be made. There also was no direct interaction on the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible]] page. There had been however several extremely suspect actions by others which might well qualify them for sanctions of some sort, although those sanctions seem never to have been placed. These include the fact that the original thread was placed at Beeblebrox's user talk page instead of at a Noticeboard which is the preferred choice, potential violation of [[WP:FORUMSHOP]]. It also is worth noting that the original post did not call for action against an i-ban violation but in giving me some sort of warning, which to my understanding is not permitted in an i-ban. I can see no reason whatsoever for two parties who have had little if any prior involvement in the discussion to have been pinged as well, particularly as both have some recent negative history with me. I believe such behavior on the part of the other party potentially qualifies as some form of harassment or canvassing. The fact that MjolnirPants was explicitly said to have been canvassed by email by the other party is another matter of some concern. The fact that the other party explicitly attempted to put prejudicial words in my mouth in the thread as a form of evidence against me certainly to my eyes qualifies as an explicit violation of the i-ban. Yet none of these problematic edits by the other party have received any sanction, and I who could I think only be found to have not checked the history of one page and making a secondary response to a question on a WikiProject talk page was. I believe these concerns raise some serious questions regarding the judgment of the involved admin in this instance, and request a review of the block by an uninvolved admin to see if it was in fact justified and to determine if the conduct of the other party in the actions leading to the block may have included explicit undeniable instances of violation of the i-ban and possibly other policies and guidelines as well. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 16:50, 26 February 2018 (UTC) | decline = Your unblock appeal focuses almost entirely on the conduct of others rather than your own. I would suggest that you read [[WP:NOTTHEM|this section]] of GAB before your next appeal. I think the block was within Beeblebrox's discretion, and for an unblock, you will need to explain why it is no longer necessary to prevent disruption to the encyclopedia. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 22:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)}}
Note to reviewer: See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beeblebrox&diff=823526417&oldid=823525920#John_Carter_continuing_to_do_what_he_(should_have?)_received_a_final_warning_for this discussion], in which I give an outline of the events JC has described as "canvassing". <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;">[[User:MPants at work|<span style="color:green;">'''ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MPants at work|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 22:22, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
: The thread in question is obviously the one that should be reviewed, particularly the comment from the thread opener about emailing the above editor. And as per [[WP:CANVASS]], contacting other editors based on their previously established opinions, presumably about individuals as well as topics, is considered disruptive. Having said that, I had and have no particular reservations about the specific comments made by the above editor in that discussion, and actually tried to complement and thank him on his user talk page for his comments, although I am not sure those comments were taken in the spirit they were given. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 22:45, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
::There's a lot of dishonesty in JC's unblock request and this comment, but in the interest of not starting a huge debate, I will limit myself to pointing out that JC was blocked for tendentiously and repeatedly violating his IBAN despite multiple warnings, and now JC's unblock request consists entirely of an obliquely worded series of accusations against the subject of that IBAN. A clear head might note the irony in that. <span class="texhtml" style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;">[[User:MjolnirPants|<span style="color:green;">'''ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants'''</span>]] [[User_talk:MjolnirPants|<small>Tell me all about it.</small>]]</span> 04:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
::The obfuscation and dishonesty is more from you than for from me. The thread which resulted in this block, on Beeblebrox's talk page, referred to only two alleged interactions, one on the WikiProject Bible talk page where I responded to a comment with a bit more data than Hijiri88, and one in which I started a thread about the use of the word verses in an article on the Bible. I believe it would be in the interests of the reviewer to review MJ's previous attempts to use this talk page as a venue for preaching to me, which he has never denied, which led to my having to tell him not to come to this page to preach to me, to which for whatever reason of ego he felt obliged to respond, after I had archived the thread, with a picture of Carl Sagan and a comment that he sees himself as some sort of new Sagan. In light of his having taken on presenting the other side here, possibly because Hijiri88 is subject to a 30 day block by prior ruling if he ever posts here again, I guess I am now obliged to '''formally request MjolnorPants under any identification to not post on this page again.''' I personally believe the reviewing admin will probably display a better grasp of the details of the i-ban and other relevant behavior guidelines involved than the blocking admin did in a rather obviously rushed judgment. And, I guess, if whoever sees this thinks that the issue is too complicated maybe to decide here, I would have no objections to having the matter reviewed at a noticeboard,with I guess an indication of such here so that I might be able to have some input. But I do tend to be much less active and likely to look Thursdays thru Saturdays. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 22:03, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
:::This is intended as helpful advice, not criticism: John, if you want to be unblocked I highly recommend a very thorough reading of [[WP:GAB]]. I know you and have had positive interactions with you in the past, but with the current unblock request and discussion I would be very hesitant to grant this request. <span style="font-family:times; text-shadow: 0 0 .2em #7af">~[[User:Awilley|Awilley]] <small>([[User talk:Awilley|talk]])</small></span> 05:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
::::The comments above by me relate to what I see as the extremely dubious conduct and judgment of the admin involved. To the extent that such questions regarding the judgment of that individual must relate to the conduct of others involved they do, but I have tried to limit such comments to the minimum to make the points related. I am myself frankly less interested in seeing the block immediately lifted than in having the situation reviewed by uninvolved administrators because as I have indicated already, here and in an email to Beeblebrox forwarded to the ArbCom, I believe there is more than sufficient cause to very seriously at least question his judgment. Having said that, my thanks to Awilley for his response. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter#top|talk]]) 17:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

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Introducing the new WikiProject Ghana![edit]

Greetings!

The flag of Hampshire

I am happy to introduce you to the new WikiProject Ghana! The newly designed WikiProject features automatically updated work lists, article quality class predictions, and a feed that tracks discussions on the 3,474 talk pages tagged by the WikiProject. Our hope is that these new tools will help you as a Wikipedia editor interested in Ghana.

Hope to see you join! Harej (talk) 20:48, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for your kind comments about my Quality improvement efforts to Wikipedia, at my appeal request to work on Quality improvement for an article I'd previously brought to WP:GA quality, Typewriter in the Sky.

You didn't have to go over there and put yourself on the line like that and comment on my behalf, but you did anyways, and I thank you for it.

I'll continue to strive to better Wikipedia by engaging in the Quality improvement process, and bring articles to WP:GA and WP:FA quality.

I'll work with my mentor The Rambling Man and do my best to learn from his example and guidance.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 23:48, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cirt, believe me when I say that you don't have much that you need to learn from anyone around here, and I sincerely hope that the Arbs come to realize that soon. Your contributions are some of the most consistently impressive we have around here, and it is an honor to be able to help out in a small way someone who has done as much as you have, over as long as you have been here, and still has the spirit and drive to improve this site that you have. John Carter (talk) 18:14, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, John Carter. I hope, in time, your views regarding my Quality improvement efforts will be shared by more editors within our Wikipedia community. Hopefully someday. :) But for now, I'll go back to attempting to improve the articles that I can — to higher levels of quality including WP:GA and WP:FA. If you've got any advice on how to bring about the change in perspective you wish for, above, John Carter, I'd appreciate it. — Cirt (talk) 19:09, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary[edit]

A year ago, you were recipient no. 1068 of
Precious, a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Four years now! Miss you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom reform proposal[edit]

Just thinking here. Maybe one way to revise things might be to create an umbrella entity, perhaps a Dispute Resolution Committee, which might be eligible for election.

At least in my eyes, one of the big reasons for the problems of the ArbCom last year was that both User:Newyorkbrad and User:Kirill Lokshin were gone, and there were no immediately obvious replacements for them. User:Doug Weller and User:DGG, the two members of the board who would at least strike me as being the leading candidates for the sage positions vacated by those two, were both new that year, and, given the greatly reduced number of cases lately, it took a while for them to know the ropes and the others to learn how they work. The reduced caseload and possible/probable loss of institutional memory with the loss of old hands could well have been one of the big problems then.

I know a hell of a lot less about MedCom and other entities, but I think maybe one way to ensure that we don't lose the institutional memory aspect might be to create a DRC from which the arbs for any individual case can be drawn. Granted, I don't expect Brad to want to join every case after retirement, God knows I wouldn't want to, but it could very easily be very beneficial for the other members of the committee to have access to him for a particular case, maybe even in a "rotating chair" or something like that.

So, as a sort of proposal, have elections every year to elect a largish number of members of DRC or similar. Say, for instance, 60 members. All qualified editors are welcome to sign a predetermined number of petitions for candidates, up to and including "draft" petitions, and those which get sufficient signatures are on the ballot. Then, allow each qualified editor to vote, preferably for only a smaller number of candidates, for instance 30. The top 60 votegetters are determined, and then those 60 individuals cast the final, deciding, public votes for who are the 12 individuals on the "standing" ArbCom, MedCom, ArbCom clerks, AE enforcers, and the like. I figure only about half of those 60 would actually get "standing" positions, which is really what I would want. This would give the bottom 30 finishers a chance to maybe take one a case or two to see if they really want to do that. preferably with the help of an old hand, and maybe more actively seek a "standing" position in a following year if they want to take that role on regularly.

But, if all 60 were, at least theoretically, capable of filling any of the positions for a given year, we might have a much better chance of avoiding the discontinuity of community memory and leadership which I think happened when Kirll and Brad left the ArbCom.

Anyway, any ideas? John Carter (talk) 18:14, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • 1) Arb com is complicated enough already.. We should be looking at procedures to simplify the process.
2) Perhaps I have a prejudice here, but the difficulties last year were not due to lack of experience of myself or the other new people. If anything, perhaps there were last year altogether too many people on that committee whose long experience led them to an apparent commitment to entrenched ways of doing things; I at least certainly felt difficulty in getting an effective voice, especially in internal discussions. But the real difficulties were due to the unfortunate but unavoidable situation that several major cases had no really satisfactory solution. DGG ( talk ) 18:33, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you, having been there and all, would probably know a hell of a lot more about it than me, who wasn't there. :) But, maybe, the "entrenchment" you speak of might be a symptom of loss of earlier leadership, I dunno. Regarding simplification, I think in a sense this might be a bit simpler. One of the problems that several have commented on is that few people really read the questions to candidates, and the sometimes questionable nature of the questions, and act however they would anyway, generally based on possibly questionable opinion they have as outsiders to the system who know the system even less than well than I might. Creating a publicly seen final discussion among the electeds might make it easier for at least that select group to deal with what they might see as real issues involved. And, a proposal like this, of the House/Senate type, sort of, might be a bit easier for a lot of people in the US anyway to understand, although I admit it might be harder for non-US people or people who don't have a bicameral system to follow. John Carter (talk) 19:02, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not quite clear on your proposal: how are the 48 members not on the standing sub-committee "drawn" to participate in an arbitration committee task? Are you envisioning that for each task, be it a case, an appeal review, responding to incoming email, and so forth, that X number of people be drawn from the pool of 48, and added to those from the standing sub-committee who are also participating in the task? On a side note, I don't see how this relates to a bicameral system, where there are two separate deliberative bodies, and they act as a balance for each other. (Unless you are suggesting that any task be replicated by the standing sub-committee and the rest of the larger committee, independently?) This is more like an organization forming a sub-committee with a set of standing members and a set of rotating guest members. isaacl (talk) 03:49, 13 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
First, I think it worth noting that the proposed board is where not only the ArbCom itself would be drawn from, but also maybe the MedCom, the Arb clerks, the regular AE enforcers, and other similar functionaries be drawn from. Basically, if something like this were done, the 60 or so would elect all the holders of those positions, which would probably be about 30 or so people. The other 30 who aren't selected and haven't yet filled such functions could, at request, if they wanted to, maybe ask to take part in specific processes (individual Arb cases, Med cases, clerking for a single case, etc.) which more or less requires selection of some sort, as either an observer or additional member of the "team", under the supervision of an existing "team" member to see if they might think they want to more actively seek such a post in the future. And, yeah, you're right, it is more like legislative committee appointments and officer selection than a bicameral legislature. John Carter (talk) 14:48, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the additional clarification of your ideas. From your description, it sounds more like a pool of alternate members, or a pool of apprentices. isaacl (talk) 23:10, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Isidor Sauers - skeptic?[edit]

I was just casting around for things to clean up and fix in Wikiproject Skepticism, and I noticed the article Isidor Sauers. WAY back in October 2007 you tagged into the project (here's the diff: [1]). I'm just curious - why? I've pored over the current state of the article and done some Googling of this fellow and I can't for the life of me figure out his connection to Skepticism. Apologies in advance if I'm missing something obvious here. --Krelnik (talk) 19:59, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Krelnik: I'm guessing the article has been changed a bit since then, maybe. That page is currently included in the Category:Scientific skepticism, and that was probably the reason for the tagging, but it might be that the content supporting for that categorization has been perhaps removed. John Carter (talk) 17:42, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the same thing, but I dug around in the article history, and I can't find any "smoking gun" removals of text that might explain it. Here is what the article looked like the day you tagged it. Ah well, just one of those mysteries I guess. --Krelnik (talk) 18:25, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alejo Carpentier and WikiProject African diaspora[edit]

Hi John Carter, Just wondering why you added Alejo Carpentier to the list of articles "belonging" to wp:WikiProject African diaspora and rated it importance=Top on 22 August 2012? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 13:55, 9 October 2016 (UTC)please ping me[reply]

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Hello, John Carter. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

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Trump difficulties[edit]

The Donald Trump article will be an extremely hard article to bring up to average Wikipedia standards, not to mention GA or FA. It will probably involve much fighting and many months. Either that or one group of people will wear out the other 2-3 groups. Compounding the problem is that Trump is very controversial. About 52% of people voting did not want him. Another 25% had negative feelings toward him even though they voted for him. That leaves maybe 20% that either support him a little or a lot, 80% don't like him or viciously hate him.

I feel it is beyond my expertise to fight a talk page battle so I will leave it to more experienced hands like you (or 3 others that I wrote to). Below is a link to my sandbox, which shows an edited version that does 3 things. 1. It fixes the jumping back and forth of related areas that are placed apart (there's quite a bit of that). 2. Trims down some trivia. 3. The lead represents a better summary and also is the permitted 4 paragraphs. I did not edit the political and campaign sections yet and don't intend to.

Here is the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Usernamen1/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=754347721

Consider commenting on the Donald Trump talk page about this sample revision. I do not plan on extensive discussion on the talk page and will leave it up to you. Let me know what you think.

Disclaimer: I am a foreigner and not a registered Republican or Democrat. Usernamen1 (talk) 05:02, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your help in a Catholic saint article[edit]

Dear sir I had made a request for TFA of Mother Teresa i have seen it has a multiple of issues and I have seen it has been removed from Good article list also I request your help in the article as I find u more helpful in making the article great in a Catholic topic --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०†ลℓк †๏ мэ 07:27, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

German Wikipedia[edit]

See my talk page - I got tipped off - and here in Die Welt. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

And a happy new year as well JarrahTree 23:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC) You may well be semi retired - I think of full retirement when I encounter some of the genius and sheer mindless perversity on this damned thing, but, you have always been there to help with the damned project tweaking, it is both appreciated and honoured - and may it serve you well sir ! (I am sure that it channelling a John Lennon line, but damned if I can remember from where ) JarrahTree 23:23, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I am far from being an everyday editor here like a lot of others are, which is a form of retirement, and am also trying to develop wikisource on my own, and, maybe, talking others into it, which reduces the amount of time I spend here. And I thank you for your very kind words above. John Carter (talk) 23:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am now even honoured to have you as an eminent page stalker while I sleep (at 8+), my thanks and appreciation moves higher... may your capacity to sleep well in face of the world changing friday, this friday be allayed (or should that be the propensity and propinquity for sleep if we allow the terms to invade wikipedia talk pages) by residence in a country of very strange people JarrahTree 00:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Additional thanks[edit]

Thanks for your comment at EP. I'm always glad to hear that I'm not totally off-base. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 00:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Need input on a Maldivian name[edit]

Hi! I need someone who has access to some decent sources for the geography of the Maldives to resolve a question at Talk:Inguraidhoo (Raa Atoll)#Requested move 5 January 2017. Thanks for whatever light you can shed on it! — Gorthian (talk) 06:30, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, so, in 2008 you created this article Zuyud, with the "Gazetteer of the United Arab Emirates. Washington, D.C. : Defense Mapping Agency, 1987" as a reference. I have not for the life of me been able to find a copy of this document (or book? I'm not sure) to verify or find any other information about this place. Do you still have your copy, or know where to find one? And if so, could you point me towards it? I haven't been able to find any other sources for anything about Zuyud and I'm hoping that the Gazetteer might help. ♠PMC(talk) 18:22, 20 January 2017 (U

@PMC: It is listed at WorldCat here but from what I remember it didn't have much more than I added to that article, considering it is public domain as a government publication and I could reproduce most if not all of it anyway. John Carter (talk) 01:32, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Not sure if my Google-fu was weak or what but I couldn't find it for the life of me. :) ♠PMC(talk) 02:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RfC on "No paid editing for Admins" at WT:COI[edit]

I've relisted an RfC that was run at WT:Admin in Sept. 2015. It is at Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest#Concrete proposal 3 as there are a number of similar proposals going on at the same place. Better to keep them together. Smallbones(smalltalk) 04:31, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2017)[edit]

A high school in Malaysia
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Thanks[edit]

But now that he's posted to the article talk page I doubt he'll read mine. There is something weird going on with the university press release. Nothing Jordanian is a reliable source fir this so far as I can see. Doug Weller talk 21:21, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Talk:St. Joseph's Cathedral, Asmara[edit]

Well, Til Eulenspiegel was once of those I was alluding to -- he also edited as Codex Sinaiticus at first, I believe -- but the one I was indirectly praising was Yom, who wrote some of the Ethiopian articles which properly were graded as GAs. (And I seriously wish would come back & contribute more.) In any case, we never had more than 3 or at most 4 editors at once who were fluent in Amharic, Tigrigna, or Somali, so even banning one would be banning a significant share of them. And if we include all three languages, I believe as many as three or four who have these skills have been banned. Sigh. It would be nice if this were a statistical anomaly, but IMHO they are more zealous about getting their viewpoints into Wikipedia than is good for them. It's a symptom of living in a part of the world where freedom of speech cannot be taken for granted. -- llywrch (talk) 00:20, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Red-linked categories[edit]

Hi John

I have removed 3 red-linked categories from your userpage, by converting them to links.[2] So the text still displays, just a little differently.

I know that they were intended to be humorous (and I particularly like "Bozos with delusions of self-propelled interstellar travel"), but unfortunately the category system was not designed to be used this way. Per WP:REDNOT, either the category should be created, or else the nonexistent category link should be removed or changed .

That's because categories are intended for navigation, so unlike articles (where redlinks are often appropriate), redlinked categories are always an error: they are a broken form of navigation. That's why there are there various tools to help identify them and either remove them or turn them blue. The most useful tool is Special:WantedCategories, which amends itself to strike out categories which have been reslved. Unfortunately the work of editors who go through that list fixing the errors is impeded by the presence on that list of userpage categories which are intended to remain as redlinks. So some of the errors never get cleared, and the first page in particular has many such categories. This obviously makes the cleanup harder.

I wasn't aware of this myself until last month, and when I saw how my redlinked categories were impeding cleanup, I removed them, and got to work assisting the cleanup. I hope you'll agree that converting the categories to redlinks isn't too big a price to pay for helping maintain the category system.

Best wishes, --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I may be confused but this seems like part of a two-pronged "attack" whereby the cat specialists are arguing that redlinked categories cause maintenance problems and that, when converted to bluelinks, they should be deleted per USERCAT. There is an ongoing discussion, the latest being a RfC, in which you, BHG, has been vociferous. Assuming that I have read it correctly (and it is convoluted, so perhaps I have not), this conversion appears to be rather disingenuous. I know for sure that the cat people have messed around like this before but I'd rather hoped that you were above such shenanigans. - Sitush (talk) 01:44, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sitush, a little AGF please. There are no shenanigans. There is a genuine maintenance problem, as outlined above.
If there is a consensus to allow new types of user category, so be it. But whatever happens there, redlinked categories impede maintenance. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:11, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Nicholas / Santa Clause....[edit]

Help......

In the Article Page Saint Nicholas......

I placed in references to the Book St Nicholas by Joe Wheeler & Jim Rosental......

However they have been changed to a vague and un-sourced wording.....

Could a ruling be made about sources and references, particularly, when someone is using sources for their own thoughts and writings.... ???


I have quoted my comments in the talk page..... below:


MacOfJesus (talk) 08:25, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"..............In the Article Page..... the key reference to the Saint's name is now:


"....Saint Nicholas became the model for Santa Claus, whose modern name comes from the Dutch Sinterklaas, itself from a series of elisions and corruptions of the transliteration of "Saint Nikolaos." When the Dutch originally came to America and established the colony of New Amsterdam, they brought the legend and traditions of Sinterklaas with them. The New Amsterdam Dutch later shortened "Sinterklaas" to "Santa Claus." [53]......."

This has the only direct reference to Joe Wheeler & Jim Rosental's book St Nicholas.....

The direct wording is...... Pg 166:

"... The New Amsterdam Dutch shortened "Sinterklaas" to "Santa Claus". They mean the same thing: "Holy" or Saint" Nicholas....."

There is no mention of "the model of Santa Claus"...... There is no mention of: " a series of elisions and corruptions of the transliteration of Saint Nikolaos..."

That is foreign to the book...... and the reference does not fit......

The proper reference to this has to be found.... or it has to be deleted......

"a series of elisions and corruptions" indicates that there was a history of the change of the name..... Hence, a reference is needed for this.....

Using the book mentioned to this vague reference dishonours the Authors of the book......

I will be seeking a category listing and ruling on vague / un-sourced entries.....

MacOfJesus (talk) 11:47, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

MacOfJesus (talk) 11:45, 4 March 2017 (UTC)........"

Mentor[edit]

Hello

For the past months I have been viewing your works on Wikipedia. They are truy a pice of art. New to the website, I was wondering if you could be my mentor? It would be greatly appreciated, as we have the same interests and knowledge. Coolwikieditor (talk) 15:48, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you commented on[edit]

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you commented on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Allow private schools to be characterized as non-affiliated as well as religious, in infobox?

Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.

The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' " and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, institutions etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "in any article".

The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was that the "in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".

Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:22, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you![edit]

This kitten says "Taxation is theft."

Tallahassle (talk) 17:55, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mar Abraham[edit]

Hi, assuming you have access to Holweck, F. G. A Biographical Dictionary of the Saints, please would you check whether Mor Abraham is different from Abraham (bishop)? – Fayenatic London 15:19, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

handout for students editing articles on history-related topics[edit]

Hi there,

As one of the active participants (and coordinator) of WikiProject History, I'm hoping to solicit your feedback regarding a handout Wiki Education is developing for students who want to work on articles about history-related topics: User:Ryan (Wiki Ed)/History.

It will be a print guide that history students will receive in addition to other resources, like our interactive training and brochures that address broader aspects of editing. We're hoping to get some community feedback by the end of Sunday, September 3rd, in order to meet a printing schedule. Thanks very much for your time. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Catechetical School of Alexandria[edit]

The Catechetical School of Alexandria...... ~~ There are two Article Pages of the subject where there should be just one. The School developed and grew greatly and was joined by many from East & West. It was in existence before Pantœnus, but he made it famous... The Article Page needs to be re-written. The historical beginnings and development is obscured in the two Article Pages.... MacOfJesus (talk) 15:25, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

The two Article Pages are: 1/ Alexandrian School & 2/ Catechetical School of Alexandria.... The origins of the one School go back to St Mark, Second Gospel writer, according to St Jerome....

Such an important School that developed into a seat of learning and excellence to be shrouded in obscurity gives credence to many Universities and Colleges refusing their pupils to use anything from Wikipedia... MacOfJesus (talk) 16:26, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

This is such a key Article Page..... I feel totally on my own, shouting..... MacOfJesus (talk) 19:02, 28 September 2017 (UTC).......[reply]


   Dear John Carter, 
   How do I go about 'proving' my position....    I have with me the Historical accounts.... This key page is in disarray.... MacOfJesus (talk) 08:54, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Habermas[edit]

Dear John Carter, Yes. I am talking about Gary Habermas who as has written extensively on the Resurrection of Jesus.

See: Talk:Gospel of Mark Son of God Mark 1:1 for the reply to my question I asked Gary Habermas. Thank you for having an interest in this subject. I suspect he was ignorant of the answer. Miistermagico (talk) 18:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mister wiki case has been accepted[edit]

You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 15, 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct of Mister Wiki editors/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Kostas20142 (talk) 21:34, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Misplaced comment?[edit]

Hi John Carter,

I'm failing to find a way to parse this edit of yours in a way that relates it to the thread preceding it. Might you perhaps have intended to place it in reply to a different entry elsewhere?

Thanks for your time and attention, ––A Fellow editor talk 11 December 2017 (UTC) ---

I would have thought the connection rather obvious. Another respondent had commented on suggestions for articles not yet here or in poor shape. I provided a link to a few pages listing among other things articles in other reference books, some of which we don't have yet, and an indication of where many more works containing encyclopedic content we probably don't have yet can be found. John Carter (talk) 20:17, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Another respondent had commented on suggestions for articles not yet here or in poor shape.
... in § Beyond reproach? of User Talk:Jimbo Wales??? I think one of us may still be missing something (could be me). Please quote and link to the specific passage you responded to so I can better follow what you're getting at. ––Fellow Editor– 23:12, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would have to be you who missed HJMitchell's comment two comments above my own.John Carter (talk) 18:06, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah! you're intent was to suggest (to me, somewhat indirectly in an unsigned comment) other possible things to focus on, yes? ––A Fellow Editor– 18:17, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and I think that you really need to maybe learn a bit more about the project by maybe reading policies and guidelines. Also, FWIW, my comment was clearly signed, so I don't know what unsigned comment you are referring to. May I suggest that you do something recommended to you either there or here before posting here again, as, at this point, I don't see much if any benefit to further conversation here. John Carter (talk) 18:23, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, it was an instance of Template:Undated, as so, which had caught my eye, not Template:Unsigned. I've been a Wikipedia editor for multiple years and have read quite a bit of WP:P&G ... Is there perhaps something of particular relevance you'd like to draw my attention to? ––A Fellow Editor 20:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Misplaced? comment[edit]

I believe you put this in the wrong place. Your first comment, and my reply to it, are two sections above that. ―Mandruss  02:50, 13 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

December 2017[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is John Carter violating IBAN. Hijiri 88 (やや) 05:47, 13 December 2017 (UTC) [reply]

Seasons' Greetings[edit]

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:08, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

December 2017 (deux)[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is John Carter violated his IBAN again. Hijiri 88 (やや) 23:34, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Recent statement at ARCA[edit]

Hi John Carter,

I have removed a recent statement you made at WP:ARCA in accordance with your community-imposed interaction ban. The edit does not fall under the dispute resolution exception because you are not engaging in dispute resolution with respect to your IBAN. Requests for reconsideration of this clerk action should be directed to the Arbitration Committee at arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org.

For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 00:17, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked[edit]

Given this diff, you have violated your interaction ban with Hijiri88. Given that your previous block for violating the interaction ban stemmed from initiating an arbitration proceeding related to Hijiri88, I believe a reasonable editor in your position should have known that the edit you made was a clear violation of the ban. In particular, your comment here doesn't make much sense to me given the circumstances surrounding your first block. You've been blocked for one week for the IBAN violation. (And as a cautionary note, please be sure not to violate your IBAN while responding to this message.) ~ Rob13Talk 06:04, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have closed the ANI discussion. Please note that there is a consensus that further infringements will result in a longer block, possibly even indefinite. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:12, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would go so far as to say “probably” an indefinite block. An IBAN is considered a “last warning” and repeatedly poking at the edges of it has led to many an indef block or even site ban, so in the futre, please, if there is any chance a particular edit could be taken as violating the ban, don’t make that edit. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:56, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ARCA[edit]

An amendment request, requesting suspension of Remedy 3 of Catflap08 and Hijiri88 case has been archived at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Catflap08 and Hijiri88. The case has been amended as following:

Remedy 3 (Hijiri88: Topic ban (I)) of the Catflap08 and Hijiri88 arbitration case is suspended for a period of six months. During the period of suspension, this restriction may be reinstated by any uninvolved administrator, as an arbitration enforcement action, should Hijiri88 fail to adhere to any normal editorial process or expectations in the area defined in the topic ban remedy. After six months from the date this motion is enacted, if the restriction has not been reinstated or any reinstatements have been successfully appealed to the Arbitration Committee, the restriction will automatically lapse.

Passed 8 to 0 with 1 abstention by motion at 12:38, 2 January 2018 (UTC)


For the Arbitration Committee, Kostas20142 (talk) 13:31, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

February 2018[edit]

Stop icon
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for an apparent unwillingness or inability to follow an interaction ban. [3].
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Beeblebrox (talk) 18:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Received your email. I don’t know why you wouldn’t be able to edit this page, I just double checked to make sure I hadn’t accidentally set the block for that, and it looks like you should have access. My only guess is that maybe you aren’t logged in, as your IP would be autoblocked as well. If that’s not it and you still can’t edit here, send me another email with the exact message you are seeing when trying to edit this page and I will look into it. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

John Carter (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

No clear evidence of my intentionally violating an interaction ban was presented. My attention was drawn in the first instance regarding the Bible verse article by the ANI thread on the topic now at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive973 which contains neither a comment from the other individual nor any mention of him. On that basis, I believe it can reasonably be stated that the interaction was basically accidental, unless we are now declaring that the edit history of an article has to be thoroughly checked before any comments can be made. There also was no direct interaction on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bible page. There had been however several extremely suspect actions by others which might well qualify them for sanctions of some sort, although those sanctions seem never to have been placed. These include the fact that the original thread was placed at Beeblebrox's user talk page instead of at a Noticeboard which is the preferred choice, potential violation of WP:FORUMSHOP. It also is worth noting that the original post did not call for action against an i-ban violation but in giving me some sort of warning, which to my understanding is not permitted in an i-ban. I can see no reason whatsoever for two parties who have had little if any prior involvement in the discussion to have been pinged as well, particularly as both have some recent negative history with me. I believe such behavior on the part of the other party potentially qualifies as some form of harassment or canvassing. The fact that MjolnirPants was explicitly said to have been canvassed by email by the other party is another matter of some concern. The fact that the other party explicitly attempted to put prejudicial words in my mouth in the thread as a form of evidence against me certainly to my eyes qualifies as an explicit violation of the i-ban. Yet none of these problematic edits by the other party have received any sanction, and I who could I think only be found to have not checked the history of one page and making a secondary response to a question on a WikiProject talk page was. I believe these concerns raise some serious questions regarding the judgment of the involved admin in this instance, and request a review of the block by an uninvolved admin to see if it was in fact justified and to determine if the conduct of the other party in the actions leading to the block may have included explicit undeniable instances of violation of the i-ban and possibly other policies and guidelines as well. John Carter (talk) 16:50, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Your unblock appeal focuses almost entirely on the conduct of others rather than your own. I would suggest that you read this section of GAB before your next appeal. I think the block was within Beeblebrox's discretion, and for an unblock, you will need to explain why it is no longer necessary to prevent disruption to the encyclopedia. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Note to reviewer: See this discussion, in which I give an outline of the events JC has described as "canvassing". ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 22:22, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The thread in question is obviously the one that should be reviewed, particularly the comment from the thread opener about emailing the above editor. And as per WP:CANVASS, contacting other editors based on their previously established opinions, presumably about individuals as well as topics, is considered disruptive. Having said that, I had and have no particular reservations about the specific comments made by the above editor in that discussion, and actually tried to complement and thank him on his user talk page for his comments, although I am not sure those comments were taken in the spirit they were given. John Carter (talk) 22:45, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's a lot of dishonesty in JC's unblock request and this comment, but in the interest of not starting a huge debate, I will limit myself to pointing out that JC was blocked for tendentiously and repeatedly violating his IBAN despite multiple warnings, and now JC's unblock request consists entirely of an obliquely worded series of accusations against the subject of that IBAN. A clear head might note the irony in that. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 04:25, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The obfuscation and dishonesty is more from you than for from me. The thread which resulted in this block, on Beeblebrox's talk page, referred to only two alleged interactions, one on the WikiProject Bible talk page where I responded to a comment with a bit more data than Hijiri88, and one in which I started a thread about the use of the word verses in an article on the Bible. I believe it would be in the interests of the reviewer to review MJ's previous attempts to use this talk page as a venue for preaching to me, which he has never denied, which led to my having to tell him not to come to this page to preach to me, to which for whatever reason of ego he felt obliged to respond, after I had archived the thread, with a picture of Carl Sagan and a comment that he sees himself as some sort of new Sagan. In light of his having taken on presenting the other side here, possibly because Hijiri88 is subject to a 30 day block by prior ruling if he ever posts here again, I guess I am now obliged to formally request MjolnorPants under any identification to not post on this page again. I personally believe the reviewing admin will probably display a better grasp of the details of the i-ban and other relevant behavior guidelines involved than the blocking admin did in a rather obviously rushed judgment. And, I guess, if whoever sees this thinks that the issue is too complicated maybe to decide here, I would have no objections to having the matter reviewed at a noticeboard,with I guess an indication of such here so that I might be able to have some input. But I do tend to be much less active and likely to look Thursdays thru Saturdays. John Carter (talk) 22:03, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is intended as helpful advice, not criticism: John, if you want to be unblocked I highly recommend a very thorough reading of WP:GAB. I know you and have had positive interactions with you in the past, but with the current unblock request and discussion I would be very hesitant to grant this request. ~Awilley (talk) 05:24, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The comments above by me relate to what I see as the extremely dubious conduct and judgment of the admin involved. To the extent that such questions regarding the judgment of that individual must relate to the conduct of others involved they do, but I have tried to limit such comments to the minimum to make the points related. I am myself frankly less interested in seeing the block immediately lifted than in having the situation reviewed by uninvolved administrators because as I have indicated already, here and in an email to Beeblebrox forwarded to the ArbCom, I believe there is more than sufficient cause to very seriously at least question his judgment. Having said that, my thanks to Awilley for his response. John Carter (talk) 17:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Courses Modules are being deprecated[edit]

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Request for Comments regarding faith healing and pseudoscience[edit]

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Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago[edit]

Awesome
Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

... and again today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC) }} --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you interested in Cuba Wikiproject?[edit]

Hi there! I am looking to revive the Cuba WikiProject over at WP:CUB! I am contacting you because you are on the member list, but I want to see who is willing to still work on this. If you are interested, please let me know! I would love to see this project as successful as possible. Feel free to contact me with any questions - please ping me so I don't miss it! Have a great day, Snowycats (talk) 23:07, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I believe Beeblebrox has blocked John Carter indefinitely for disruptive editing. - Ret.Prof (talk) 16:58, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas![edit]


I know you're blocked, but I'm grateful for everything you've done. Your efforts will never be forgotten. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy 2020! Jerm (talk) (formally JudeccaXIII) 18:39, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
Seven years!

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