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On this page, the deletion or merging of templates and modules, except as noted below, is discussed.

How to use this page

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What not to propose for discussion here

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The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace and module namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:

Stub templates
Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
Userboxes
Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
Speedy deletion candidates
If the template clearly satisfies a criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}. See also WP:T5.
Policy or guideline templates
Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
Template redirects
List at Redirects for discussion.
Moving and renaming
Use Wikipedia:Requested moves.

Reasons to delete a template

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  1. The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance.
  2. The template is redundant to a better-designed template.
  3. The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used.
  4. The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing.

Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.

Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.

Listing a template

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Shortcuts

To list a template for deletion or merging, adhere to the following three-step process. Utilizing Twinkle is strongly recommended as it automates and simplifies these steps. To use Twinkle, click TW in the toolbar (top right of the page), then select XFD. Do not include the "Template:" prefix in any of the steps, unless specifically instructed otherwise.

Step Instructions
I: Tag the template. Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:

Note:

  • If it is an inline template, do not add a newline between the TfD notice and the code of the template.
  • If the template to be nominated for deletion is protected, make a request for the TfD tag to be added, by posting on the template's talk page and using the {{editprotected}} template to catch the attention of administrators or template editors.
  • For templates designed to be substituted, add <noinclude>...</noinclude> around the TfD notice to prevent it from being substituted alongside the template.
  • Do not mark the edit as minor.
  • Use an edit summary like
    Nominated for deletion; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]]
    or
    Nominated for merging; see [[Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:name of template]].
  • Before saving your edit, preview your edit to ensure the Tfd message is displayed properly.

Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with {{subst:Tfd|heading=discussion title}} or {{subst:Tfm|name of other template|heading=discussion title}} instead of the versions given above, replacing discussion title with the title you chose (but still not changing the PAGENAME code).

Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, add {{Catfd|template name}} to the top of any categories that would be deleted as a result of the TfD, this time replacing template name with the name of the template being nominated. (If you instead chose a meaningful title for a multiple nomination, use {{Catfd|header=title of nomination}} instead.)

TemplateStyles pages: The above templates will not work on TemplateStyles pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:

/* This template is being discussed in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Help reach a consensus at its entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024_December_21#Template:template_name.css */
II: List the template at TfD. Edit today's TfD log and paste this text to the top of the list:
  • For deletion: {{subst:Tfd2|template name|text=Why you think the template should be deleted. ~~~~}}
  • For merging: {{subst:Tfm2|template name|other template's name|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

If the template has had previous TfDs, you can add {{Oldtfdlist|previous TfD without brackets|result of previous TfD}} directly after the |text= before the why (or alternatively, after the }} of the Tfd2/Catfd2).

Use an edit summary such as
Adding [[Template:template name]].

Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ). Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following:

{{subst:Tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}}

You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters | ), plus one more in |with=. |with= does not need to be used, but should be the template that you want the other templates to be merged into. Make sure to include the same meaningful discussion title that you chose before in Step 1.

Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code in the |text= field of the Tfd2 template but before the text of your rationale:

{{subst:Catfd2|category name}}
III: Notify users. Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:

to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts. Deletion sorting lists are a possible way of doing that.

Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases.

Consider adding any templates you nominate for TfD to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the TfD tag is not removed.

After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors

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While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.

To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that a template be speedily deleted, please give the criterion that it meets.

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WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{subst:Tfd notice}} for this.

Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the template

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While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.

At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)

Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is successful it will be added to the Holding Cell until the change is implemented. There is no requirement for nominators to be part of the implementation process, but they are allowed to if they so wish.

Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.

Twinkle

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Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the posting and notification functions automatically, with fewer errors and missed steps than manual editing. To use Twinkle, click its dropdown menu in the toolbar in the top right of the page: TW , and then click 'XFD'.

Note that Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.

Discussion

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Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.

People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.

Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.

Closing discussion

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Administrators should read the closing instructions before closing a nomination. Note that WP:XFDcloser semi-automates this process and ensures all of the appropriate steps are taken.

Current discussions

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December 21

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Template:C.F. União squad

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This club was expelled from its league, closed down and liquidated in court three years ago [1]. This squad template is not only outdated but obsolete as an extinct entity cannot have a "current squad" ever again. Unknown Temptation (talk) 12:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in France

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Foreseeable that the scope of this template will become too broad (see Russia), and thus has been partitioned in three. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 10:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Last Kings Records

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Last Kings Records is non-notable and now a redirect to Tyga. Last kings entertainment was already a redirect to Last Kings Records. "Hollywood Niggaz" is a redirect to The Gold Album: 18th Dynasty. The only links here that aren't redirects are Tyga and Fan of a Fan: The Album, both of which are already included in Template:Tyga, leaving this redundant and with too few links to justify its inclusion. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Rainbow Six Siege series

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Unnecessary sidebar with links to only three standalone articles, one of which is the game itself. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 02:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 20

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Template:EIN

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This template does not seem to give any useful information; the /doc itself says that the search only works in certain circumstances, and I checked about half o the extant uses and none of them give a result. Unless it can be fixed I figure this template should probably be deleted. Primefac (talk) 15:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 21:29, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that I've thought about it and would be okay with it being a typing aid template. Primefac (talk) 21:49, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've written a user script to make clicking on EINs on Wikipedia display all the resolvers on Wikidata. The script is at User:Daask/MultiResolver. Daask (talk) 02:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Articles by Quality

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Propose merging Template:Articles by Quality with Template:Category class.
These two templates seem to do similar job, with slightly different styling. I suggest we merge them. I slightly prefer the styling of {{Articles by Quality}} but that might be my bias because I wrote that template in 2008. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in Russia

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Foreseeable that template as it is will become too broad in scope and has been split in four preemptively. (see: Soviet Union, United Kingdom, United States) DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 16:54, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:GBvosi

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This template generated map links to the old-maps.co.uk website, which permanently closed some time ago. Mauls (talk) 16:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Behind Crimson Eyes

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Two albums. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Nazxul

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Only two albums and links to former members. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in the Soviet Union

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Template as it is has too broad a scope and has since been split into five. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 09:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Aviation accidents and incidents in the United Kingdom

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Template as it is has too broad a scope and has since been split into ten. DemocracyDeprivationDisorder (talk) 07:28, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Greater Manchester bus route 103

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All these route templates have not been used since October due to this Afd. If the creator wants to keep them as they work on creating the respective articles for these to be used to meet notability standards, then it can be userfied until ready for mainspace use. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:SGB Premiership history

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Unused and graphs have not displayed for a while. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is part of the Phabricator issue, and as the creator of this template, it honestly wasn't particularly useful and was a pain to update even when it worked. I have no objection to deleting it at all. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 16:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:KirstenboschMap

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Unused map. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Graph:BTS Skytrain ridership

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No longer used and graphs are not displayed for almost a year if I'm not mistaken. If wanted to be kept, can be userfied or a subpage of some kind. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:40, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

should wait until the new chart extension is deployed to enwiki. Then the data can be migrated. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Chart/Project Matthewmayer (talk) 16:31, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Chief ministers of United Provinces

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Only two links. Not needed as both links can be found from one another's article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Influencers

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Scope is far too broad and ill-defined for a navbox (per WP:NAVBOX: small, well-defined group of articles; The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent). This could easily grow to encompass anyone famous on social media (thousands of people?) and I foresee a lot of arguments about inclusion. — The Earwig (talk) 00:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I was literally writing up a nomination and refreshed the template and saw this. I'd argue it's not a helpful or useful template and, if you look at Category:Social media influencers, it's very unclear what should and shouldn't be included. If we included everyone for which that term is applicable to it would be far beyond the size of anything that would be reasonable. There's thousands of people who refer to themselves as such and the selected entries don't seem to follow any particular logic except possibly WP:ILIKEIT. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, I created the template prior to discovering the social media influencers category, and almost certainly wouldn't had I had noticed how broad that category is. I will however point out that the list is based predominantly on Rolling Stone / The Times lists of top influencers/content creators, and otherwise most of these weren't referenced in their BLP as being an influencer, so were not included for that very reason. The point being that I'd estimate 80-90% of those included in the social media influencers category are not described as influencers in their BLPs. It's merely a "catch all" category for notable social media users at this point. As a reference point after the Influencer article split off from Internet celebrity, I disambiguated a lot of links (ie [[Internet celebrity|Social media influencer]] etc and noticed how the majority (maybe 60/40) were internet celebrities, rather than influencers, but had nonetheless been categorised as such, with internet celebrities category having very few inclusions by comparison. So this might be a cats issue rather than template to be honest. I otherwise gave up searching for more inclusions after I was scrapping the bottom of the barrol reliable sources wise, so I don't think there are many left at this point. So given the context, I think this template may well be useful, and there doesn't appear to be any conflict over who should be included or not (at least not yet), or size issues based on the inclusion being seemingly very broad, so possibly WP:WAIT applies here to see if there are any actual issues first. CNC (talk) 18:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete because there's no evident cutoff. Ideally, this template would link to every blue-linked influencer article on Wikipedia, and that's unwieldy. Not to mention different influencers have different content, so a food influencer's article would have this template in it, linking to video-game influencers. Categories and lists are better for organizing influencer articles, and navigation templates grouping influencers should be avoided. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 19

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Template:CITWF

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No longer needed as both templates listed have been deleted. Disambiguation serves no purpose anymore. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is nothing here as both templates have been deleted. Gonnym (talk) 09:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Heavy Moss

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Only one album and two notable singles to their name. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 10:01, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose still serves as a hub for all links for the band. Scuba 14:03, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article Heavy Moss does that job quite well already! And the articles are well linked, you can link to the band, the album and each of the singles from each and every article. This simply isn't needed. --woodensuperman 14:59, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 19:03, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Brad Pitt

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Only three articles. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 13:08, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 19:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Film writer templates

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This writer-specific navbox violates WP:FILMNAV, which says, "Filmographies (and similar) of individuals should also not be included in navboxes, unless the individual concerned could be considered a primary creator of the material in question. This avoids over-proliferation of individuals' navboxes on each production's article, and avoids putting undue weight on the contributions of certain individuals over others." This navbox is causing exactly the problem that WP:FILMNAV warns about. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 22:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose. I think that in the majority of these cases the writers concerned could be considered primary creators of the material in question. I don't think bundling these nominations together is helpful, as they should each be looked at on their own merit. I'd be more concerned with the producer navboxes, espectially these days when films seem to have about a dozen producers. I'm sure I've advocated for limiting this to director roles only in the dark and murky past, but I seem to recall that "primary creator" was the compromise. What is auteur theory anyway? ;) --woodensuperman 11:31, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I looked at all the examples, and there were none where they were always the primary creator. Are you suggesting limiting it to works where they are only the primary creator? I feel like if we don't pay attention, editors will mindlessly fill out (or restore) all credits, like the now-blocked MolAnneFinnBall567 did. It seems to be better to be all or nothing. It's not like there is zero access to writing credits; their names are always in the infobox and ideally the article body too. It's about whether or not we need yet another navbox at the very end of the article, and writers and producers are rarely the exclusive sole drivers of creativity across all their works. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 12:42, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think these have been concerns for nearly a decade! See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers/Archive 11#RFC: Filmography navboxes. --woodensuperman 13:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I think categories serve best than the navboxes. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the Fusco navbox at the least, don't mind deleting the others. I've been following this discussion for a while, and considering the script is the second-most essential to a film (even more so than producers and actors), I feel a case can be made for keeping those who in almost all cases act solo, unlike guys like McKenna and Sommers (who would often be part of a team of six, thus cheapening their creative role too much to be primary). In Fusco's case, almost every work (save The Shack (2017 film), with two other writers) had him work solo - and there are 15 - so there is far less of an issue keeping him than the others. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi I’m finally back, now I just want to let everyone know that I created these templates because I wanted to add more variety with each Wikipedia navbox, so all I’m saying is just, please, don’t delete any of these. MolAnneFinnBall567 (talk) 23:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 23:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look filmmaker is a very collaborative process, movies have a lot of different people working on them, so just crediting to directed works only is honestly just generic. I get that it violates WP:FILMNAV, but I didn’t know. MolAnneFinnBall567 (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that if we have navboxes for every production role, then we end up with WP:NAVBOXCREEP. We need to draw a line. Hence WP:FILMNAV calls for only primary creator roles. Picking Monsters vs. Aliens as an example, this has five writers and two directors. If each had their own navbox, we could end up with six navboxes for writers and directors alone (not to mention the other three). And with this many writers, could any of them be really considered a primary creator? Also, as only two of the writers have navboxes, this could be considered WP:UNDUE for the others without navboxes. --woodensuperman 11:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dice

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Very little use (only 8 mainspace transclusions in it's 14+ years of existence), and not clear why a specific template to write [[dice|die]] (one possible variant for the singular of "dice") is helpful, or whether edits from unregistered users are a problem actively needing this very specific solution. Can safely be substituted and left to, well, die. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:International dollars/data/2005

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Data templates that are unused and also not present in the code of Template:International dollars, so can't be used. Gonnym (talk) 14:15, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Peso

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This navbox groups currencies that share the name "Peso", but have no other relation beyond that. The article Peso already has a list of those currencies. Cambalachero (talk) 13:23, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's a whole category of it. There are likewise categories for denominations. I just worked through a bunch of these because of WP:TEMPLATECAT but both the navboxes and the categories felt like they missed the point of those navigation tools. Izno (talk) 23:53, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Submit an edit request/core

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Unused after parent template was converted to use a module here. Gonnym (talk) 12:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Module:Franchise total episodes

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Unused TV module. Template:Franchise total episodes was merged last year. Gonnym (talk) 10:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-isu

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No transclusions or documentation. Inscrutable template name. Created in 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The template name likely means "implies shared use", a good equivalent of {{uw-username-coi}} without the "COI" part. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Correct, that was the intention behind it. – Stuart98 ( Talk • Contribs) 20:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-shouting

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No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. Created in March 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Election results-STV

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No transclusions or documentation. Created in April 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:28, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Was only recently finally fixed so it was usable and is now in use. Some discussion prior to a nomination would be appreciated – this is the second time it's been nominated in the last couple of months. Number 57 12:10, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete if not used in mainspace during this TfD. Templates will get repeatedly nominated if they aren't being actively used. That's just how it goes. There is never a justifiable reason to create a template in mainspace and not use it for 8 months. If a template is not ready for active transclusions, it can be created in the draft namespace or in a user namespace. Gonnym (talk) 12:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:International relations/Intro

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No transclusions, documentation, incoming links, or categories. This subpage appears to be independent of its parent page, and appears to be article content related to International relations (the prose looks similar to the lead of that article from 2013). – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 18

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Template:Ukrainian Figure Skating Championships

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All years are redirected to the parent article; no need for this table. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all redirect are created by the filer who is clearly unhappy that his earlier nomination failed. I restored all articles secretly deleted by filer, except three redirects that I nominated for deletion because the subject is better off with a red link in this template. For the prior nomination by the same filer: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_28#Template:Ukrainian_Figure_Skating_Championships. The Banner talk 04:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw this nomination for now. Additionally, I seem to be able to edit Wikipedia just fine without making personal attacks against other editors; perhaps you might try the same thing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I exposed what you were doing. If you call that a personal attack, so be it. The Banner talk 13:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-Coa-Mexico

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No transclusions. This template does not appear to be usable on the English Wikipedia, since all files to which it applies, such as File:Flag of Mexico.svg, have been moved to Commons (or could be moved to Commons), where the template is used in over 1,900 pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see that there was a 2017 TFD that was withdrawn for {{PD-Coa-Mexico}} and similar unused PD File templates, but the templates' documentation was not updated to match the justifications. If this template is kept, I recommend that this and similar templates be documented to explain why they are here and how they should (and should not) be used. I have provided example bare-bones documentation at {{PD-Coa-Finland}}, which was involved in the previous TFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep {{PD-Slovenia}}. Slovenia has a shorter term for photographs, so it is possible for there to be an expired photograph of a still-copyrighted architectural work (which is usable on English Wikipedia as {{PD-USonly}}). This was in use briefly for an old photo of a Slovene chapel. It was eventually determined that the chapel was also architecturally acceptable for Commons, but I could foresee a similar case occurring again where an old photograph of a Slovene building could not be uploaded to Commons. It also has potential application for old free photos of non-free content (e.g., statues, murals) used under the NFCC. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:08, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Swedish Figure Skating Championships

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All articles are redirected to the parent article; no further need for this table. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:55, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep All articles that the filer had redirected are now restored, so plenty (15) valid links. Filer seems to have a problem with figure skating. Secretly removing articles is not okay. The Banner talk 05:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The articles that I attempted to redirect are now listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2001–02 Swedish Figure Skating Championships. Recommend withdrawing this template nomination pending outcome of that AFD. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Legislationlistuk-OiCNI

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No transclusions, categories, documentation, or incoming links. Created in October 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band tracks

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No transclusions or documentation. Appears to have been replaced by the {{John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band}} navbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:GARC-new-circle

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) GMH Melbourne (talk) 05:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions or documentation. Created in June 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:40, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Editnotices/Page/Neil Gorsuch

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This editnotice has been blanked, which overrides the default BLP editnotice that should be displayed for living people. It should be deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Editnotices/Page/Neil Parish

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This editnotice duplicates the automatic BLP editnotice that is displayed now. It should be deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Editnotices/Page/President of Singapore

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The list of presidents to which this editnotice applies has been split from this article to List of presidents of Singapore, so this editnotice is no longer useful here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move to "Template:Editnotices/Page/List of presidents of Singapore". — Sgconlaw (talk) 17:06, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Editnotices/Page/Revell

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Editnotice blanked as "not needed" in 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:58, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fine with me to delete, the original creation appears to be linked with this edit which removed this template. Frietjes (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Editnotices/Page/Sangh Parivar

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This editnotice has had just one edit, and it contains only a protection template, which does not appear to make sense as an editnotice. I think it may have been created in error and should be deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and delete it, or I will if you want. I'm not sure why I created it when I added ECP:. But in fact I did add an edit notice at the time. Doug Weller talk 17:09, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Editnotices/Page/Sucharit Bhakdi

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as uncontroversial maintenance. This was a discretionary sanctions editnotice; discretionary sanctions has been superseded by contentious topics but this topic is no longer designated contentious. The notice has been blank for four years. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Editnotice blanked with edit summary "rmv invalid gs". This page appears to no longer be needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:Taxonomy/Caenophidia

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This editnotice is no longer applicable and can be deleted. Xenophidia was redirected in 2016 and then again in 2019 to Caenophidia. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Editnotices/Page/Battle of Shivneri Fort

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. CSD G7. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 23:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Editnotice blanked as "expired". No longer needed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Only Murders in the Building

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Redundant template: all links are available at the parent article Only Murders in the Building. Provides no further ease of navigation. -- Alex_21 TALK 23:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:06, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Leaning towards keep for this one. Meets the WP:NENAN threshold of five articles and enables navigation between, say, season 1 and season 4, which is not possible otherwise. --woodensuperman 09:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The template helps users to navigate throughout the various articles related to the series, and while not many articles exist as of yet, it is still useful to have.—Mjks28 (talk) 12:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What does this template provide in terms of further navigation that the parent article does not? -- Alex_21 TALK 20:24, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's always quite likely that the parent article will include all the links in a navbox, so this is not a reason to delete. Take a navbox for a band as an example. The parent article will likely include all band members and a full discography, matching the links in the navbox. However, it's when we get to the other non-parent articles that a nabox becomes a handy navigational tool. As I mention above this navbox facilitates moving between non-consecutive seasons that would not be possible directly otherwise, or from any of the seasons to the accolades article. Admittedly as this only just meets the threshold of WP:NENAN the benefit is limited, but there are far less useful navboxes out there, and at least all the links are on topic. --woodensuperman 09:52, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So, long answer short, it doesn't actually provide anything further in terms of navigation, for four seasons and one awards article. -- Alex_21 TALK 10:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes it does, it means you can navigate between non-consecutive seasons, and from season articles to the accolades article. --woodensuperman 10:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All of which can be completed by the parent article. I asked what the template provides that the article does not. -- Alex_21 TALK 10:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's not a pre-requisite for a navbox. Take any comparable parent article and navbox and you will most likely find the same links on each. What navigation does {{Vikings (2013 TV series)}} provide that Vikings (TV series) does not? What navigation does {{Robert Altman}} provide that Robert Altman does not? What navigation does {{Taylor Sheridan}} provide that Taylor Sheridan does not? What navigation does {{The CW programming}} provide that List of programs broadcast by The CW does not? The point isn't about navigating from the parent article, it's about navigating quickly between the other linked articles without needing to refer to the parent article. --woodensuperman 10:53, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The latter three are significant navigation templates. However, I absolutely agree with the Vikings template, it's as unnecessary as this one, I'll put that on my "to look into" list. (And before I get a NENAN to that suggestion - it's an essay, a good, but not set-in-stone rule, and remember: "not everything needs a navbox".) -- Alex_21 TALK 11:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Most navboxes which meet the WP:NENAN threshold usually get kept, sometimes navboxes with even fewer articles are kept. I've certainly nominated film director navboxes with only 3-4 entries in the past that have ended up being kept. I don't think there would be any traction trying to delete the Vikings one or any with more than 6-7 entries. --woodensuperman 12:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it is the larger navboxes that are more problematic. {{Vikings (2013 TV series)}} is a clear and concise navbox with succint and relevant links, meeting all of the points at WP:NAVBOX. {{The CW programming}} is too large to provide a useful navigational function, a lot of the links are not particularly relevant to each other, and we are far better served by the list for context and the category for a directory of the programming. --woodensuperman 11:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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December 17

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Template:Mississauga Steelheads

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The team is now the Brampton Steelheads and no articles directly related to the now-former team including their championship win does not exist. Redudant and outdated navbox. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Template:Formula V8 3.5 teams

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Unused and is just a list of teams and drivers. This information is easily found on the main article. It's not like other sport competition templates that would list winners as in players of a team. Not sure what can be gained from this. Same could go for other racing team templates. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Template:List of Europe supercentarians

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No transclusions, documentation, categories, or incoming links. Created very recently, but this navbox has no main article and no blue links in the body, so I don't think there is much hope for it. It's just a wrapper for {{Europe topic}}, which is often used directly in articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:MAL

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No links in this template disambiguation has any links related to the name of the template "MAL". Instead, its for countries that have the same three letters at the start of their name. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as useful and helpful. This is what disambiguation pages are for. Someone logically types "MAL" as a country abbreviation for one of these countries, and they are directed to this disambiguation page, which helps them find the right template. Without it, they have to hunt around. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Template:WikiProject Lanka Premier League topicon

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The project does not exist anymore. Gonnym (talk) 11:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Latest stable software release/FLTK

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Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Latest preview software release/Viber

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Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Latest preview software release/K-Meleon

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Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Latest preview software release/Adobe Premiere Pro

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Unused software release version template. Gonnym (talk) 10:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Private equity investors

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Redundant to {{Private equity and venture capital}} --woodensuperman 09:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:QuoteAText

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Propose merging Template:QuoteAText with Template:Blockquote.
Redundant template, only used on its author's userpage. We could userify it, or redirect it to {{Blockquote}}. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 04:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no userify, no redirect. There are enough ways to quote a piece of text (see Template:Quotation templates). Gonnym (talk) 09:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:IranNCSGN

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No point in external link template for a dead link. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Comment: If kept per Frietjes, then convert to a full citation template and not leave it in this mixed-state. Gonnym (talk) 12:19, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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December 16

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Template:FCC letter

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The FCC has announced that the database system to which all uses of this template refer is being discontinued on January 2, 2025. All uses must be manually transferred to new links that use UUIDs, not five- or six-digit numeric IDs, in the newer Licensing and Management System. Further information and basic instructions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio Stations#CDBS is going away. I migrated the history card information to Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio Stations/History Cards to ensure its preservation. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:45, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I understand correctly, the FCC letter only says that CDBS *Search*, a reference, I presume, to https://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/cdbs_pa.htm , is going away. Is it possible the files won't be deleted, and will still be accessible as long as you use the direct URL? - Thomas H. White (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thomas H. White, I'm afraid that everything via CDBS will be unavailable after that date. In any event, we should be linking to LMS for history cards and letters. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hiero/doc/sandbox

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Unused doc page that hasn't been edited in 3 years. Gonnym (talk) 18:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Grading scheme/doc/table/sandbox

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Unused doc page that hasn't been edited in 8 years. Gonnym (talk) 18:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Hindu temple/doc/sandbox

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Unused doc page that hasn't been edited in 5 years. Gonnym (talk) 18:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Icon/doc/sandbox

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Unused doc page that hasn't been edited in 14 years. Gonnym (talk) 18:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Automobile history eras

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Multiple issues with this one - firstly it only links 4 discrete articles other than the main one so WP:NENAN applies, but also there seems to be a very US-centric bias to this, and the implied main article title U.S. Classification of Automobile history eras, doesn't show the actual title of the article History of the automobile. Some of the links are already in {{Automobile configuration}}, maybe the rest could be too, or included in {{Automotive industry}} rather than this navbox. --woodensuperman 13:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Chu-accounttakenusurp

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A duplicate of {{CHU|usurp}}, with no talk page and minor edit history. It would be better to have a single source of notices like this instead of duplicates that serve no real purpose. Gonnym (talk) 10:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This template pre-dates {{CHU}}, for what it's worth. While it may be a duplicate now, it wasn't a duplicate when it was created given the timeline. Daniel (talk) 23:08, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not say it was a fork, I said it was a duplicate, which it is. Gonnym (talk) 23:46, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Attribution wasn't provided when the duplicate was created on 6 March 2007. I have no issues with this being deleted, but I would expect attribution to be appropriately provided for the unique text that I wrote on 10 February 2007, that was copied into the consolidated version on 6 March 2007, if this is deleted. I wrote that text. Daniel (talk) 00:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 15

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Template:Cite patent/sandbox2/patent

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Unused subpage of a redirect. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Russell Rovers Hurling Team 2020

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Fails WP:NENAN. Single use template. The Banner talk 16:16, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Russell Rovers Hurling Team 2025

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Finalist in a junior competition NEXT YEAR? With just two players and the coach having articles, it fails WP:NENAN The Banner talk 16:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WikiProject Figure Skating/A-Class review/preload

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No longer used as Template:WikiProject Figure Skating/A-Class review was redirected (should have been sent to TfD as that redirect wouldn't do what a user using it is expecting). Gonnym (talk) 13:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2024 Thompson NYC Killing Map

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Unused map not used in Killing of Brian Thompson. Gonnym (talk) 13:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm not really understanding the nomination? The map is used in the article Personisinsterest (talk) 15:28, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Was unused at the time of the nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2007 B.League table

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Unused after being subst into 2007 B.League. Gonnym (talk) 13:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 14

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Template:PD-PAGov

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Pennsylvania does not have a general release of state works into the public domain. Nthep (talk) 16:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PD-WVGov

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West Virginia only has a limited right of access to public records and it's not as wide ranging as this template suggests. Nthep (talk) 16:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Old discussions

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December 10

Template:Ethnic groups in Taiwan

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Botch job of merging multiple navboxes. This is not how we use navboxes. --woodensuperman 15:23, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show me the manual how to use navboxes? Can you show me the section of the manual telling that this is not how navboxes should be used? Do you expect people to maintain multiple navboxs with huge conceptual overlaps? Leoshuo (talk) 15:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your suggestions. Nevertheless, after thoroughly reading WP:BIDIRECTIONAL, I understand that it is entirely your personal preference that relevant navboxes cannot be incorporated into other navboxes. After reading WP:SMALLTEXT, I understand that I did not make any mistake against it. Wikipedia:NOTHERE is a strong allegation. Please try to carefully use those allegations. I have agreed that the template for White English-speaking people should be deleted. That was a navbox I made in an earlier stage, but I am satisfied that all other navboxes I created are necessary and consistent with their main articles. I would like to talk with the Administrators for those issues. I appreciate that you have plenty of time and energy, and I would love to see you making more good-quality articles Leoshuo (talk) 19:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note. Above editor who created the navbox has been blocked. --woodensuperman 08:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Honestly think the navbox looks fine from a grouping perspective, ignoring that it's failing to use the correct navbox facilities here (which do exist). I tend toward a keep. Izno (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not really the way to go about things though, if it is appropriate a full merge should be considered rather than this messy nesting which does not consider full WP:BIDIRECTIONALity. Also note that the creator of this template has been blocked for making exactly these kind of edits. --woodensuperman 08:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Carter G. Woodson Book Award winners

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Spot the blue link in an ocean of black... I cannot see how this much unlinked text can provide any meaningful or useful navigational function. There isn't even a list article on the subject. --woodensuperman 13:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The more recent entries tend to have links for their authors if not titles, and the template is divided into sections so the oldest ones need not be displayed. The template could be updated to further divide by decade, to reduce the number of displayed entries. Why is existence of a matching list article considered a factor in whether a nav box should exist? A guideline notes their complementary nature, and the irrelevance of deleting one based on presence of another. I don't believe absence should be a factor in deletion either. —ADavidB 16:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:EXISTING, WP:WTAF and all the points of WP:NAVBOX, specifically point #4. There should definitely be an article before we even consider a navbox, not least for WP:VERIFIABILITY reasons, and considering how little linked text there is, we should leave it there, because this is useless for navigation. It would be far more useful as a list with context. --woodensuperman 16:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A Carter G. Woodson Book Award article now exists. —ADavidB 03:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 8

Template:WPBASEBALL assessment level category

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Propose merging all of the above into one template.
There should be one consistent banner to throw up on these categories so fixing stuff doesn't require looking for all these different templates. Gonnym (talk) 19:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 4

Template:Plural form

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Plural abbr. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Plural form with Template:Plural abbr.
Templates both do the same thing and achieve the exact same output text. waddie96 ★ (talk) 13:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC) Edited at 15:27, 4 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Did you mean to link the same template twice? It looks like you intended to propose merging it with Template:Plural abbr. Gary600 (talk) 15:09, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes, sorry I mean merging with Template:Plural abbr. I corrected it Gary600. waddie96 ★ (talk) 15:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think template:plural form is clearer and would prefer merging the other way (depending on usage). Caleb Stanford (talk) 18:31, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please can someone revert this it's ruining the appearance of intro sentences across articles. Atrapalhado (talk) 22:54, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Atrapalhado: I've added <noinclude> tags to stop it from being substituted. waddie96 ★ (talk) 22:53, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - I struggle to understand the point of this template anyway so seems little point having two of them! Atrapalhado (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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December 3

Template:Testcase

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The result of the discussion was replace and delete testcase Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:05, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Testcase with Template:Test case.
{{Testcase}} is referred to as the legacy version of the spaced {{Test case}}. They should be merged. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I do think that the amount of coding that would be required to create a wrapper for the old template so that all the params can translate into the new one would be overly burdensome, and I don't think that the time spent reprogramming old test cases to follow the format of the new template would be worth it. As such, I don't think that template merging here would improve the encyclopedia on a net basis, so I think they should be kept. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Replace all usages (122) and delete template. Don't merge anything that the new template can already do, and only merge specific features if actually needed. Gonnym (talk) 12:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy with that outcome, too. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Template:How-to

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:How-to. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:02, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:How-to with Template:Manual.
These seem to say the same thing, in different words ("contains instructions, advice, or how-to content"/ "written like a manual or guide").

Reducing the number of available duplicative templates makes it easier for editors to find the template suited to an issue which they wish to flag. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge which way?
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Completed discussions

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