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GA review

With respect to this GA review, I'd like to point a couple of things out to you. Articles don't have to be perfect to become GAs; they just need to meet the GA criteria - see WP:GACN for common mistakes. "Use the release date and duration length templates, like on "S&M" for example." - what's the point of this? It just autoformats the data rather than requiring manual formatting, and in fact would make the article take a longer time to load as more templates are involved. Also, things like accessibility and reference formatting are not at all covered by the GA criteria, so they don't need to be enforced when reviewing GANs - it is still good to point out such issues, but I just want to let you know that they aren't required under the criteria. I don't mean to criticise or patronise you, andsorry if I come across like that (I'm just trying to be helpful). Happy editing. Adabow (talk) 11:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Lotus song articles

You've been doing an excellent job on the Lotus song articles! I for one, never expected "Lotus Intro" to have information for a stand-alone article, but I guess I was wrong! It's such a good album, it sucks to see how poorly it did!  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 22:41, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :-). At first I didn't really like it, but I do now. I love "Just a Fool". AARONTALK 12:27, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Red Hot and Lotus song articles

The funny thing is that the "Critical reception" section was my job, and you just try to "fix it perfectly" to receive a Good Article nomination, trying to do everything "perfect" and changing all the editing that I did, including the "Audio sample," which was took (also from Make the World Move) without telling me (just because of one simple "GA" nomination). This is not good! Of course, the "Background" and "Live performances" were just taken from your article (because it is not necessary to create new informations about the Background in every article, because The Background remains the same). Many editors did with Beyonce's 4 song articles, for example. For the record, I'm also editing Lotus song articles, and Make the World Move, for example, was extended and it was not THAT necessary, taking the edits that I did, and turning them into yours. FanofPopMusic (talk) 01:30, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean it's "your job"? You had used sources that I've never seen before, just added quotes, poor MoS and incorrectly formatted references. For example, why on earth did you use a newspaper parameter for MTV?? It needed overhauling as it was not good. You hadn't even distinguished reviews from composition info, which I did. I removed the audio samples because User:J Milburn put non free tags on the articles saying that they were too long, if you had of looked at the revision history for the articles, you would know that, but you obviously didn't and blaming me instead. The background is not the same in every article actually, the ones I've worked on are worded differently and have different information. Again, you've clearly not read them. I'm not turning anything into mine, User:Status will tell you that I originally wrote all of "Make the World Move", "Red Hot Kinda Love", "Let There Be Love", "Lotus Intro" and "Blank Page". You just added a poorly written review section, nothing in comparison to what I've done. Instead, you copied and pasted several sections from "Let There Be Love" which I wrote first and then pasted it into "Army of Me". I wrote that Live performance section, and you copied and pasted it. You're saying about the Backgrounds being the same (although they aren't), yet you haven't addressed the fact that you copied and pasted what I wrote. AARONTALK 11:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for List of songs recorded by Cheryl Cole

Materialscientist (talk) 00:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey

Do you care if I make some fixes to S&M (song), or should I post them on the FAC page? Till 07:49, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

No that's fine. AARONTALK 10:39, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Come...

online. — Tomíca(T2ME) 18:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Leona's others songs

Do you think there's going to be enough material out there for articles on the charted songs "Forgiveness", "Whatever It Takes", "Take a Bow", "Yesterday", "Here I Am", "The Best You Never Had", "Angel" and "Misses Glass"? At least someone wouldn't come along and AFD them for not having charted! –anemoneprojectors– 13:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm just starting on "Take a Bow" again, I redirected it last April. The only other ones I would say have enough info is "Whatever it Takes". I would love to do one for "Yesterday" because it is simply stunning but I don't think there is enough info to be honest, alike the rest you listed.  — AARONTALK 13:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Well done! I have a feeling we're more likely to get more info about her newer songs than these older ones. –anemoneprojectors– 15:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, "Homeless" and "Take a Bow" were hard to do.  — AARONTALK 15:49, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Make the World Move

Hello! Your submission of Make the World Move at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Prioryman (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Don't Let Me Down

I wrote this from the sources you posted on the talk. Only this three-four mention the song. :/ — Tomíca(T2ME) 18:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

It's okay. Composition can be combined with it. I think the background will be quite informational. Live performances also need to be added.  — AARONTALK 19:48, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I expanded the section.  — AARONTALK 20:33, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Christina Aguiliera CHANGE REQUEST

Calvin, Here are the songwriters listed in BMI's copyright database:

http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&keyID=15200642&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID

RCA made a mistake when they printed the original version of album (itunes digital booklet). That error has since been rectified and will be reflected when they print NEW versions of the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudus99 (talkcontribs) 16:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Where does it say they made a mistake? Have they issued a statement?  — AARONTALK 16:51, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

If you give me your e-mail address I can send you proof from RCA and Christina's legal team.

Scroll up to the top, look on the left at "Toolbox" and click "email this user"  — AARONTALK 17:06, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

RE: Homeless

Hi. Sorry, I have the North American version. I don't have that song. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I thought "Homeless" was on the deluxe edition?  — AARONTALK 09:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Maybe he has the standard.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 13:48, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
The article says it's not on any North American version. I'd get you the credits but my Spirit CD is at my dad's :-( –anemoneprojectors– 15:17, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

It's small, but here you go.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 23:55, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.  — AARONTALK 00:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I tried zooming in but I can't read it.  — AARONTALK 14:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I can make it out (a little bit). I'll try writing it out for you after school.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 16:20, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
Lol okay thanks. I can't make any sense of it!  — AARONTALK 16:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
  • Produced and arranged by Steve Mac
  • Recorded by Chris Laws and Daniel Pursey at [I can't make out the studio], London
  • Strings recorded by Geoff Foster at Air Lyndhurst Studios, London
  • Protools editing by Chris Holmes
  • Drums by Ian Thomas
  • Bass by Steve Pearce
  • Piano, keyboards and synths by Steve Mac
  • Background vocals by [can't make out the name]
  • String arrangements by Dave Arch

 — Statυs (talk, contribs) 22:31, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.  — AARONTALK 22:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

You're great.

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For being a great editor, a really great editor :). — Robin (talk) 00:17, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, this is very unexpected!  — AARONTALK 00:32, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Lol, I know. I've wanted to give you a barnstar for a long time; I just kept setting it off for no particular reason. — Robin (talk) 04:28, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Make the World Move

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Calvin999. You have new messages at Talk:Phresh Out the Runway/GA1.
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There are remaining issues.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 16:21, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Not that I can see?  — AARONTALK 18:16, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

RE: "Run"

Sorry, I'll enter school on Monday. My next holiday will be until late March. If I have no homework, I'll try to help you with it. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 03:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Lotus Intro

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WikiCup 2013 January newsletter

Signups are now closed; we have our final 127 contestants for this year's competition. 64 contestants will make it to the next round at the end of February, but we're already seeing strong scoring compared to previous years. Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) currently leads, with 358 points. At this stage in 2012, the leader (Irish Citizen Army Grapple X (submissions)) had 342 points, while in 2011, the leader had 228 points. We also have a large number of scorers when compared with this stage in previous years. Florida 12george1 (submissions) was the first competitor to score this year, as he was last year, with a detailed good article review. Some other firsts:

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Placeholders

Re Whatever It Takes (Leona Lewis song): we do not need under construction tags for empty articles. Develop your article in user:Calvin999/sandbox and when it is ready, move it into the (article) namespace. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

No, I'll continue doing it the way I and all of editors I know always have.  — AARONTALK 23:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Under construction banner was there for a reason. Sure way to piss off a constructive editor like myself.  — AARONTALK 23:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

OK, so what was that reason? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:17, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Because it was under construction...? And I was about 2 minutes away from publishing what I had spent ages doing.  — AARONTALK 17:38, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
If it was two minutes from being published why on earth did you need an under construction tag? What was the probabilty that someone else was going to put up their version in those two minutes? Which of all the editors you know does this? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:57, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
To show I was editing it! I'm finished with this conversation now.  — AARONTALK 10:12, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Take a Bow (Leona Lewis song)/GA1

See Talk:Take a Bow (Leona Lewis song)/GA1 review. Its currently on hold; various minor issues. — Robin (talk) 04:48, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Chopra F

Hi, I have nominated Chopra's awards and nominations list for FLC. Please, feel free to represent your though on it. The list was successfully reviewed for one month and have improved a lot. I'll be grateful if you can represent your suggestions here...Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Priyanka Chopra/archive2 as fast as you can. Thank You.Prashant    10:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Glassheart Tour

I was just wondering if you believe the Scarborough and Kew Gardens dates should be included in the 'Glassheart Tour' dates. Even if they cannot be (at this current time) considered a part of the tour, they should still be included with annotations stating they're a part of a festival etc. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krusty111 (talkcontribs) 12:54, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Hurricane Beyonce caused a power failure! --Another Believer (Talk) 18:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

You may consider this a GA. I just want to fix a bit of a redirect snarl I stumbled upon first, so there aren't funny mislinks everywhere. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:09, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Change Your Life (Little Mix song)

Lord Roem ~ (talk) 08:03, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

Hello, Calvin999. When you changed Homeless into a disambiguation page, you may not have been aware of WP:FIXDABLINKS, which says:

A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.
Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.

It would be a great help if you would check the other Wikipedia articles that contain links to "Homeless" and fix them to take readers to the correct article. Thanks. R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:44, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Greetings, Calvin999. I have undone your change to Homeless. Please do not create disambiguation pages having only two pages; such situations are generally handled with a hatnote. See WP:TWODABS. Also, please do not create disambiguation pages at titles for which there is a clear primary topic. See WP:PRIMARY. If you wish to contest this change, please discuss by proposing your preferred revision through Wikipedia:Requested moves. Cheers! bd2412 T 12:58, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. I completed two of three concerns, and I added one comment about your third bullet point. Please let me know if I need to address this concern in order to earn your support. --Another Believer (Talk) 22:36, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I responded again. --Another Believer (Talk) 20:33, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Where?  — AARONTALK 20:35, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, my comment ended up at the bottom of the page (perhaps I hit a keyboard button), but I have since moved it to the right spot. Thanks. --Another Believer (Talk) 20:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance and support. Sorry for the confusion earlier. --Another Believer (Talk) 22:49, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

That's okay. If you have time to comment on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Cheryl Cole/archive1 that would be great.  — AARONTALK 22:51, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

A generic barnstar for you!

The Good Article Barnstar
Thanks Calvin999 for promoting Take a Bow (Leona Lewis song) to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give someone a pat on the back today. — Robin (talk) 00:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks :-)  — AARONTALK 00:03, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Question

The bot thinks that the article has existed for a number of years, which it obviously has not, which would make it eligible for a couple of bonus points as part of our encouragement to expand old stubs. I think it's because you've piped the link. I'll correct it and let Jarry, the bot op, know. Thanks for letting me know! J Milburn (talk) 00:54, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

What does piped mean?  — AARONTALK 00:55, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
| <- That is called, among other things, a "pipe" (see vertical bar). A "piped link" would be [[example|this]] rather than [[this]]. While I'm here; File:06-christina aguilera-let there be love.ogg, from your latest GA nomination, is too big- 64kbps and 22 seconds (10% of the total song) should be enough. Not the end of the world, but certainly something that should be dealt with before it's ready for GA status. J Milburn (talk) 01:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Oh right okay, because of the disambiguation. Yeah, FanofPopMusic added samples that are too long. I'll remove it.  — AARONTALK 01:07, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
For your amazing contributions on song lists, I award you this, original barnstar! Keep up the great work Aaron! I still haven't finished the one I have been working on since October 2011, and you've gotten like, what, 5 to FL?  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 17:18, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Also, new message on my talk! I might have what you're looking for.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 17:19, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, that's really nice of you.  — AARONTALK 17:52, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
It's my pleasure!  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 17:57, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
I started Mariah's absolutely ages ago, but it is epicly long.  — AARONTALK 18:02, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I was so close to reverting that... Good job :) It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 19:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Never had one of these before lol.  — AARONTALK 19:40, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I started it ... — Tomíca(T2ME) 15:34, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

OKay cool. I've had family over today so will help soon.  — AARONTALK 16:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Alrighty ;) ! — Tomíca(T2ME) 17:27, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Come online.  — AARONTALK 17:30, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Woo, we really did a good job, I love how the article looks! 22:49, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Lol yeah I was actually really interested when writing it, some good stuff. Come online.  — AARONTALK 22:52, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK on hold

Please see Template:Did you know nominations/My Hands regarding my concern about the reference used for the hook. Good Luck!--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 08:38, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

stay - Rihanna feat.Mikky Ekko writing credit

Hi, Justin Parker, Mikky Ekko, Quest Management ( MIkky's management company) and Spilt Milk Management ( Justin's Management) have all changed the information about the writing credit which you have then reversed. This song was written over a year ago by Mikky Ekko and Justin Parker only. Elof who we also know, was called into to help produce it at the behest of Mikky Ekko himself. He did not write it. What is written on the booklet is wrong. We have asked Island Def Jam to reverse on the next run of product manufactured. As we asked when we changed it today, please check with Sony Atv Publishing to verify this. This song has been getting tv and synch requests around the world and this inaccurate information is causing a lot of work for us to undo. Another person you can check this information with is Janice Brock who publishes Mikky and Justin in the UK.

Elof's management is Adis Adamson at this company - http://www.ten.se/. We also know him and he can verify this fact with him too. I can give you his personal mail address if you'd like. As i said - i really wouldn't care about this except that its making our workload triple for this track as we keep having to reverse the writer splits for synch etc when we get requests through. I appreciate that you are just being a very diligent wiki guardian.. but this time you are reversing accurate information, and we know all this information as i have been managing Justin for years and we put in the writing session to begin with! Elof wasn't' even in the country when this was written in London!

My name is LIzzie francis. I manage many uk songwriters. My company is Spilt Milk Management in London.

if you want more info just let me know . my mail address is lizzie@spiltmilkmusic.co.uk Mikky's management details are: tony@quest-management.com or mike@quest-management.com ( Tony Beard and Mike Mayer).

many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.129.187.243 (talk) 02:07, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Until new booklets are produced, or if "Stay" is logged on BMI/ASCAP, and it does not credit Elof, then we will leave his name on the article, as it is currently sourced as so.  — AARONTALK 13:04, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Don't Let Me Down (Leona Lewis song)

The DYK project (nominate) 20:06, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Problem again.

I've fixed it; thanks for the note. J Milburn (talk) 13:51, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

For future reference, it's probably best to avoid piping the links on the submissions page- so, use [[Bla (song)]] instead of [[Bla (song)|Bla]]. J Milburn (talk) 13:57, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Cease Fire (song) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cease Fire (song) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cease Fire (song) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Since you nominated this at DYK, I wanted to let you know even though you haven't edited the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:23, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Cheryl Cole

Hey. Of course we can talk here. My concern is that of how the text flows. I know you may disagree, but when I read the lead, I read some sort of indiscriminate collection of randomly chosen facts instead of three paragraphs with a good flow. I see that you have 3 supports, which means that most users agree that the list is up to standard, although I'd like to see some improvement here, before or after the list is promoted (There is always room for improvement). I think that what you have to do is to try to make all sentences somehow connect to each other. — ΛΧΣ21 19:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

What do you want to see written in the paragraphs? Information about genres?  — AARONTALK 20:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
I was just giving examples. You can write what you feel is most important from her songs. The main point is to make whatever is written to have some sort of connection. I would give you a hand there, but then I won't be able to close the FLC. — ΛΧΣ21 20:30, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I will try and marry up compositional info to the songs I've mentioned.  — AARONTALK 21:04, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Okay. I am confident that you can make that lead an amazing one :) — ΛΧΣ21 22:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Best of Me (Christina Aguilera song) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Best of Me (Christina Aguilera song) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Best of Me (Christina Aguilera song) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 23:12, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Challengable material

The statement that I removed from Music of the Sun is challengable and requires verification. It is based on the assumption that the demo versions of the songs were included on the album. If the information is important enough, a source that can verify it would thereby establish its notability. Otherwise, it isnt an issue to not have the "recorded" parameter of the infobox filled. Dan56 (talk) 19:11, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Almost Home

What do you think? :)--CallMeNathanTalk2Me 18:44, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I think she sounds really good. Just need to see if she replicates it live now  — AARONTALK 22:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Heeeeeey

I managed to get an inspiration and do this. :) What do you think? She really deserved it. Also you can add some other notable feat of which you can think of. — Tomíca(T2ME) 15:03, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah cool yeah that's good. Someone for the age of 25 as created a lot of impact. I have an iMac now so no more silly Sony Vaio laptop not working!  — AARONTALK 17:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, she is hardcore! Really? How is the iMac? Good stuff? — Tomíca(T2ME) 00:35, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Yeah it's great. My other laptop had kicked the bucket lol.  — AARONTALK 12:01, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for My Hands

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary

Carabinieri (talk) 08:04, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Query

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Hello ... I had checked and thought the prior version (no spaces) was correct, here. Just dropping by to check your thoughts. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:03, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

No.  — AARONTALK 09:36, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
OK. I had thought in a quick check I saw it without spaces. But see now that it is both ways, and looks like more with spaces, and I can't quickly find the official, and this is no help.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:55, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
What? If you had of checked it properly before you made the edit you would have seen you was wrong. It is "Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary" only, not "Love Without Tragedy/Mother Mary", so no, both are not correct. And what is the relevance of the link you have provided.  — AARONTALK 10:18, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
I said that I saw it both ways. The relevance is that I was seeking how it was printed when it was published. What -- who said both were correct?--Epeefleche (talk) 10:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
You said that it is done both ways, but it's not.  — AARONTALK 18:06, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
That's not true. I did see it reflected the other way.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
That's a contradictory statement, You did: "I had thought in a quick check I saw it without spaces. But see now that it is both ways."  — AARONTALK 16:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
How is that a contradictory statement? I said that I saw it reflected without spaces -- and I see that it is also reflected with spaces. Your assertion, on the other hand, is flatly incorrect. Where do you see any contradiction whatsoever in my statement?--Epeefleche (talk) 16:41, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Because you said that at a quick check you saw it without spaces, even though it's not. And that after I had pointed it out, you then realised that it does have spaces. You then said that you had seen it both ways to start with. That is contradictory. Anyway, make sure you pay attention to linking before you quickly change things. It was correct to start with, and by your incorrect and quick glance, you made it wrong.  — AARONTALK 17:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Your error

You erred when you said (multiple times) that Love Without Tragedy/Mother Mary does not appear without spaces. It does. See for example here and here and here. I have no problem, upon further investigation, with adding spaces as that seems to be more prevalent, and I have not seen an official url either way. But I just wanted to point out your mistake, so that you don't improperly accuse others in the future of mis-statements.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

We don't go by how critics spell it, we go by how it is spelt on iTunes and the album booklet, as they are official. Furthermore, the article is "Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary", and that is the main thing. So I am still right in the matter. Furthermore, I believe I had closed this conversation.
You didn't say "we don't go by ...", or "yes, you are correct, it appears both ways but ..." You erred, in insisting multiple times that it does not appear both ways. Obviously it does. Anyway -- that's interesting ... iTunes is an RS that is determinative of spelling of song names? Where can I find support for that notion, so I can refer to it in future discussions? Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
It's not my fault if critics misspell it. With spaces is correct, without is not. Nowhere on "Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary" is it written without spaces, so I am still correct. We use iTunes a lot for track listings and song lengths and the booklets for credits and personnel. I am finished with this discussion, again. You're obviously not familiar with music articles.  — AARONTALK 19:30, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Please participate ...

... here. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 04:02, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 February newsletter

Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.

Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:

  1. Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), primarily for an array of warship GAs.
  2. London Miyagawa (submissions), primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
  3. New South Wales Casliber (submissions), due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with Alaska Keilana (submissions), this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.

Other contributors of note include:

Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by British Empire The C of E (submissions): did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...

March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!

A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) J Milburn (talk) 11:46, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK medal

Thanks very much for the 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal! Prioryman (talk) 08:30, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

That's okay.  — AARONTALK 14:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

RE: You've got mail!

Responded.:)— Tomíca(T2ME) 13:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I started Jump (Rihanna song). Feel free to start editing, just open the talk and there's the treasure ;) !— Tomíca(T2ME) 23:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Have you seen this btw? — Tomíca(T2ME) 12:41, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Yep lol  — AARONTALK 14:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Then do CR! :P lol [so we can make DYK of course] — Tomíca(T2ME) 15:17, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Lol ok  — AARONTALK 15:18, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
There are lot of reviews at the talk and also could be uses some of which are already in the article. — Tomíca(T2ME) 15:28, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I responded to the two outstanding queries you had. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:04, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey Aaron

How are you doing? I found this by accident. Readable "Homeless" lyrics! Haha.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 01:18, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey, yeah I'm okay thanks you? Oh cool that is great  — AARONTALK 12:02, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

50 ways

The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
Well you've been around for three and a half years and you haven't left yet. So it isn't "50 ways to leave..." but "50 ways to write a DYK". Nice to see so many notable songs have their own article. Thanks you from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 16:37, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :-).  — AARONTALK 16:42, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Your recent reversion of the edit I made to this article reintroduced an incorrect reference to Chronicle Live, a sports talk TV show which is completely unrelated to the website cited in the reference I modified. This is also why I also removed the link to the network that broadcasts the show. I'm going to re-fix it; please don't revert again. Thanks! 69.181.245.156 (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Un Love Me listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Un Love Me. Since you had some involvement with the Un Love Me redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 19:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I to You listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect I to You. Since you had some involvement with the I to You redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 19:31, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Shake You Up listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Shake You Up. Since you had some involvement with the Shake You Up redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 19:33, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Chartbot review

The bot to repair the Billboard site revision catastrophe has undergone its initial test run (see Special:Contributions/Chartbot). I uncovered a few small bugs in the initial edits, but any that I didn't revert are, to the best of my knowledge, good. If you have any issues with it, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Chartbot is the place to bring them up.—Kww(talk) 20:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey. Would it be possible for you to take a look at the article and provide some feedback on PR raised? I am planning to take this up to FLC for the centenary of Indian cinema in May. One of the editors (User:Tomcat7) has provided some inputs. Any feedback would be appreciated. - Vivvt • (Talk) 18:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Dance/Electronic Songs

I think we should not remove Dance/Electronic Songs from S&S charts since there is nothing about this chart on WP:USCHARTS. I also think we should include Dance/Electronic Songs on the Applicable U.S. Charts since it ranks the top-selling electronic dance music singles in the United States through a combination of single sales, digital downloads, club play and radio airplay. That means Hot Dance Club Songs is a componet of Dance/Electronic. Since Dance/Electronic Songs is a new chart I think we should keep both charts.--Albes29 (talk) 12:56, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I would like to be able to use all US charts, but the rules apply. Dance/Electronic is a form of Hot Dance/Electronic Digital Songs, therefore it is a still a component.  — AARONTALK 13:09, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
It is not like that, Hot Dance/Electronic Digital Songs is a component of Hot Dance/Electronic Songs. This is from the Hot Dance/Electronic Digital Songs page " On January 17, 2013, Billboard added a new chart, Dance/Electronic Songs, which tracks the 50 most popular Dance and Electronic singles and tracks based on club play, single sales, radio airplay, digital downloads, and online streaming. As such, this chart serves as the main component for the Dance Club Songs, Dance/Mix Show Airplay, Dance Single Sales, and Dance/Electronic Digital Songs charts.( http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1510640/new-danceelectronic-songs-chart-launches-with-william-britney-at-no-1 ). If am not wrong the main Dance Chart is the Dance/Electronic Songs. Mostly because Dance/Electronic Songs chart match the methodology applied to The Billboard Hot 100.--Albes29 (talk) 14:48, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
If they are changing the components and introducing new ones then it needs to be raised at WP:USCHARTS.  — AARONTALK 16:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I agree but I don't know who can do it.--Albes29 (talk) 19:38, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Just post on the talk page  — AARONTALK 20:01, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I did it but there is not answer.--Albes29 (talk) 21:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Give people a chance!  — AARONTALK 21:45, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Whatever It Takes (Leona Lewis song)

The DYK project (nominate) 16:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

The article Don't Let Me Down (Leona Lewis song) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Don't Let Me Down (Leona Lewis song) for things which need to be addressed. DivaKnockouts 01:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Busy

I'm kinda busy with my exams, so I am sorry I didn't manage to help you with fixing the issues for "Don't Let Me Down". Hope you don't mind. Cheers! — Tomíca(T2ME) 21:46, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

That's okay lol  — AARONTALK 21:59, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for understanding. What's new at you? — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:04, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Not much really. Last term of uni this week and got some essays to finish. Haven't really been on here much.  — AARONTALK 22:07, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Indeed, I noticed you were a bit inactive ;) ! — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:13, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Lol I haven't had time to do much.  — AARONTALK 22:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

re your revert and Jonathan Hay

Causeandedit is a role account dedicated to promoting Jonathan Hay and his companies, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Please insert apoligy here. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:43, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

??  — AARONTALK 14:29, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
The edit you reverted Re Jonathan Hay being the first to release this to the public. Info added by Causeandedit as part of a spam campaign to introduce Jonathan Hay (publicist) Jonathan Hay Publicity Hoopla Worldwide, Sabrina (pop singer), Birdgang clothing. Please have another look. duffbeerforme (talk) 15:02, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I removed that from the background, but there was no need to remove those release date references.  — AARONTALK 16:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
There is a good reason to remove those "sources". Stores are not reliable sources. Wikipedia is not here to provide an avenue for these shops to promote their product. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:29, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes they are. Goodbye.  — AARONTALK 14:11, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello. duffbeerforme (talk) 14:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Settlted down a bit. I'd just like in the future that if you disagere with my effort to improve this encyclopediedia I'd appreciate that you did not reduce things to personal attacks on my inteligence. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:18, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Rated R [Singles & Commercial performance]

When do you plan working on them? They are only thing left before GAN. — Tomíca(T2ME) 17:11, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I am free some of tomorrow and on Friday  — AARONTALK 17:13, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok then. It will be awesome If we can nominate it for the weekend. — Tomíca(T2ME) 17:14, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. It won't get reviewed anytime soon though haha  — AARONTALK 17:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I know, we should make some plan for canvassing someone to do it. Lol Nevertheless, we gonna start preparing it for FA during that time. — Tomíca(T2ME) 17:17, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Lol okay.  — AARONTALK 17:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
No, but AllMusic has it (Already in the article as "ref name=cdsinglecredits"). Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 23:50, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Run

Hi. Finally I have free time (one week). Do you have time to do "Run"? Also, why do you think about creating a WikiProject or The X Factor taskforce about Leona Lewis? Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 16:36, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey, yeah I have the time. A wikiproject for X Factor already exists, and I tried making one for Leona, but it didn't get enough support to be created. So I would probably say no for the time being.  — AARONTALK 16:39, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I was busy with 4Chan at Tokio Hotel. OK, then let's stsrt with it. I was thinking more like the WP:The X Factor/Leona Lewis task force, like Wikipedia:WikiProject Emo/My Chemical Romance task force. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:02, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if it's just too much effort. Might as well just do it ourselves.  — AARONTALK 18:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I'd have no problem. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:12, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
With? lol  — AARONTALK 18:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know, I got lost :S Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
haha. We will just work on it together. Can we try and do it within 5 days because I'd like to try and nominate it for DYK if it is 5x expanded.  — AARONTALK 18:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
It is possible, with information about the original version, and "Other versions" transformed to prose. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 18:40, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, and there is next to no prose about Snow Patrol, and Leona's could be expanded a LOT. Start tomorrow?  — AARONTALK 18:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Exactly. OK with tomorrow, I may make some tweaks today. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah that's fine, I'm going out in a bit so I can't.  — AARONTALK 19:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


Per DYK/Supplementary ruule: ""Five days old" limit should be strictly enforced only if there is a large backlog of hooks. Otherwise nominated article may still be approved if it was created or expanded after the oldest date". In this case there is a 25 January nomination. The article had aprox. 9,700 characters of prose, now it has 15,000, and just two sections have been improved. With the whole composition section, critical reception, lead, covers from list to prose, music videos, expand Lewis's chart performance, etc. it will have the ±48,500 characters that are needed. Also, we can nominate it if it is not complete, and request a little more of time. It took me one week to finish sourcing and expanding Miguel Ángel Mancera's article after I nominated it. They are more worried about verifiability than time. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:30, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

What about Leona's though? It's bound to be different.  — AARONTALK 23:52, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Let me see if I can find one. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:09, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Here, just click the backside cover. Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Check your email

Till 10:01, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Replied Till 13:07, 28 March 2013 (UTC)