User talk:HJ Mitchell/Archive 128
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Unblock request
Hello. I submitted an unblock request for an underlying IP global block. The IP is 209.66.197.30, and blocks me at school despite having an account. Could you please help accelerate the process? Thank you. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:57, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
I’m only looking for a block exemption, by the way. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:58, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Paul Vaurie: I've disabled the global block. You won't be able to edit without logging in, but you should fine with an account (and anyone who wishes should be able to create an account). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:50, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell: Thank you! That was exactly what I was looking for. I am now able to edit with my account from this IP. Have a wonderful day! Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
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Environmental impact of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
Looking through the page history of Environmental impact of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), the same content has been removed by multiple IPs and a few registered editors. Often similar edit summaries. Russian sock, perhaps? Cheers Adakiko (talk) 12:28, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- Well, the article was EC protected this morning so hopefully a moot point now. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:42, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- indef-extended too! Cheers Adakiko (talk) 13:09, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 13:49, 1 January 2023 (UTC) |
Happy New Year, HJ Mitchell!
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HJ Mitchell,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Yashweb
You blocked them over a year ago, and now they seem serious about getting unblocked. Do you have anything to say about this? Daniel Case (talk) 07:42, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: seems reasonable to me. Don't feel you need my permission for something so straightforward in future. I know it's considered good manner but I'm unlikely to object to you unblocking someone I've blocked unless I've explicitly said so with the block. Happy new year. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:22, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Widening blocked range for Android/Samsung vandal?
Would you consider extending the 3-month range block of 2001:16A2:E500:0:0:0:0:0/40 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) for the Android/Samsung vandal to the wider /37 range 2001:16A2:E000:0:0:0:0:0/37 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial))? This will sweep up more of the block evasions that are still occurring (e.g., at 2001:16A2:E0E0:F376:0:0:0:0/64, 2001:16A2:E4B4:A26:0:0:0:0/64, 2001:16A2:E0ED:8002:0:0:0:0/64, 2001:16A2:E3B9:6F17:0:0:0:0/64, etc.). The amount of collateral impact by blocking the /37 does not appear to be large. What do you think? — Archer1234 (talk) 15:26, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Archer1234: generally I'm loathe to block large ranges but I looked at all the edits from that range going back to November and couldn't see more than maybe half a dozen that possibly weren't our block-evading friend so I've blocked it for three months. I've left account creation open, though, so let me know if you notice new accounts making the same sort of edits. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Northolt siege scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 8 February 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 8, 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/February 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:19, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Hey. Could you please review this CSD, created by a user you just blocked Priyanshubhargav 2005? Thanks. Silikonz💬 19:00, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- I don't generally do deletions in mainspace unless it's vandalism. Besides, the claim to be involved with a notable film is enough to escape A7 if it's true (if it's not, the article is eligible for G3). Nonetheless, I wouldn't be surprised if an admin deleted it under A7 but it won't be me. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:03, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
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TFA nom for Operation Flavius
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TFA
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Thank you today for London and North Western Railway War Memorial, introduced (in 2021) as "a monument that has stood in the same spot for 100 years next month while everything around it has been demolished and rebuilt. I think my favourite thing about this article is the variety and quality of the images available to illustrate it."! - I have a singer on the same page. Thank you for all the memorials! I do mine a bit different, and have two open entries on WP:ITNN, - it's area where a few more eyes to look for support or oppose are welcome. - The colours of my January calendar image are Ukrainian for a reason. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Harry--great job. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you both. I'm rather fond of that one. I particularly like the old photos. It's remarkable that it's stood unchanged for over 100 years but everything around it has changed beyond recognition. I wonder if any of our employers would erect such an elaborate memorial to our memories if something similar happened today? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:09, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- today, I point at two singers I whose performance I enjoyed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Unconstructive edit(or)
Good afternoon from Portugal,
Please have a look at Rúben Ribeiro (footballer, born 1987). The user that you blocked here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:185.224.1.84; all of the other IPs in the aforementioned article are them since last week, same M.O.) continues to disrupt the proceedings. I have no idea about the other articles, but i imagine they are doing the same; as you can see at Emmanuel Essiam, the article for which you blocked them, they also used (at least) two IPs.
Attentively, happy 2023! RevampedEditor (talk) 14:05, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- I've protected the article for a few days. Hopefully that will help. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:08, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Article protected? No worries for the vandal, they just created an account and resumed their stuff... --RevampedEditor (talk) 00:13, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Situation out of control in the R. Ribeiro article, if you don't want/can't help out this time please say so and i'll take my query elsewhere. --RevampedEditor (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Judging by Baba Souare, WP:CIR of the highest caliber, and seems to struggle "heavily" in English (i.e. "Baba Souare returned to his home club Servette on 20 July 2022 by signing"?!) --RevampedEditor (talk) 04:12, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Now they resorted to anon editing again! --RevampedEditor (talk) 18:18, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
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Do you have time for a review?
Hi Harry, I hope all is well. I have Death of Kevin Gately at PR (with FAC a possibility after that). Would you have time to chip in? Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 21:14, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Of course. Might be the weekend but I'll add it to my list. I'll see if I can add anything useful from my books. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:03, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Perfect - thanks. SchroCat (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Promotion of Hove War Memorial
- Congratulations, and thank you today for Death of James Ashley, introduced (in 2020): "James Ashley was shot dead by armed police in his flat on the English south coast in 1998. Armed policing is an emotive subjective in Britain and police shootings attract a lot of media and academic attention, especially when it turns out that the person shot was unarmed. In the aftermath, the officer who pulled the trigger was charged with murder, several more senior officers also faced charges, and the controversy cost the jobs of the chief constable, his deputy, and one of his assistant chiefs. Not content with that, the family sued the police and the case reached the UK's court of last resort."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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Your block of 62.6.254.186
Just wanted to make you aware that they apparently have made a legal threat on their Talk page. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 17:26, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- I saw it. It's not a direct threat of legal action so probably better to ignore it than antagonise them. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:09, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- FYI, this IP address appears to host the email server of the UK company Andel Ltd. Won't you agree that it's rather dumb for a company to make public threats to Wikipedia? — kashmīrī TALK 21:13, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
User talk:Alexf
FYI - I can still see the offending content in the edit history. Shearonink (talk) 21:08, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- The first three edits shouldn't be visible. The later one didn't contain anything concerning. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Oh ok, yeah - I could only see the last one but Yikes the first three must have been awful...glad you're on the ball with this stuff. Shearonink (talk) 21:42, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Jim Molan
Trying to get Jim Molan added to the RD at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#Jim Molan. Could you have a look for me? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:57, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Remove TPA
Mind removing the TPA Of 58.179.95.13? They have made it obvious they aren't gonna use it to try and get themselves unblocked. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:18, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Nah, it's only one edit and not particularly disruptive. Better to ignore them. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:24, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. From my experience usually if they make an edit like that and get reverted they'll just make more like it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- If they do, we haven't lost anything; it takes seconds to yank TPA then. I watchlist IPs I block for a while so I'll see if they make any more edits. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:28, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. From my experience usually if they make an edit like that and get reverted they'll just make more like it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
User still not blocked
- M.Kalita (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is continuously vandalising pages with unsourced material, I reported him but no reply was given till now, Can you help me in this matter!
Chennai Super Kings Lover(talk) Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk) 14:31, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure it's vandalism. I did look at the AIV report but decided I couldn't justify a block. I'm guessing multiple other admins came to the same conclusion as AIV has lots of eyes on it (it's one of the most-watched pages on the site). But I've given them a short block to hopefully force them to discuss their changes. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:37, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
M.Kalita (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)'s majority of edits are unsourced and also vandalised pages, Look at his past edits[1]. I hoped that you would block him indefinitely, but that's okay, Even after the block, if he again vandalised, I will reach to you
Thank You,Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk)
In light of their now-discovered UPE status, it is most likely appropriate to remove the NPP right. I apologize for creating this extra work for you, as I was the one who suggested they apply. Onel5969 TT me 17:54, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
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TFA
Thank you today for Galton Bridge, introduced: "As my long-suffering wife would say, "it's a bridge". It is, indeed, a bridge. Not an ancient bridge like my previous bridge FA but still nearly 200 years old. An elegant single span in cast iron (then still a novel material) and built by one of the most famous engineers of the 19th century. Both the road it carries and the canal it crosses are vestiges of a transport network that was once Britain's lifeblood."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I second that, great to see Galton Bridge on the Main Page of Wikipedia. --Jameboy (talk) 14:47, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
In lieu of templating the regulars
Rather than give you the big scary warning message: This is a silly edit war. I know you're aware of applicable policies. Please discuss on talk rather than continuing to revert. Thank you. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 23:05, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Continuing the Galton Bridge issue. Not my thread, but it looks like DOB may be have missed that this notice is required. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:48, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
ACR
Hi Harry, I had two goes at the ping so you might've missed it -- can you return to check this one...? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
You've Got Mail Re: My Blocked IP
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It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. at any time by removing the Colonel Knight Rider (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
You have a message in your inbox asking why I can’t edit anonymously until the end of March.
Never mind! I figured out I needed to connect to a Wifi network. Colonel Knight Rider (talk) 00:48, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
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Interwiki spillover
Hi, I'm NanoLuuke, editor at Wookieepedia. I'm sorry to bother you, but it has come to my knowledge that you had to deal with an attempt at harassing me because of actions happening at Wookieepedia. To contextualize, we recently reached consensus about a new infobox field, and an user created an account for the sole purpose of vandalism in reaction to this consensus, and was quickly reverted by myself, and blocked for his actions. It seems that to vent his frustration, this user then decided to come here and engage in further vandalism. I'm sorry you and your fellows editors had to deal with that. Best regards. NanoLuuke (talk) 15:38, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the background. If you need any help on this wiki, drop me a line. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Semi-protection requests
Hi HJ Mitchell! While I have been contributing as an editor for a while, I have only recently taken on counter-vandalism which can be a very daunting task. As a result, my requests for semi-protection, like earlier today, might seem excessive. If you have a moment, please feel free to recommend learning resources in addition to WP:PP that could be helpful for me moving forward. Thanks so much Ppt91 (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Ppt91: Hi! The best tip I can give you for IPv6 vandals rapidly hopping IP addresses is to look up the /64 range. Go to a contributions page, eg Special:Contributions/2600:1008:B075:EF5:4495:F4B4:EECC:63B1 and in the "search for contributions" box, append "/64" to the IP address, then search. That will bring up all the edits from that range. If all the IPs that are causing you a problem are on that list, just report it to AIV the same as you would an individual IP address. If all the edits are coming from similar IP addresses but you're not sure of the range, report the most recent one to AIV but make it clear you're asking for a range block and you need the reviewing admin to check the page history. As for page protection, that's normally reserved for sustained vandalism where blocking wouldn't be effective. Normally we'd prefer a narrow range block to page protection. If you're unsure, take what you have to AIV or RFPP and explain the situation. This sort of thing comes up at AIV every day so admins know how to handle it; we just need you to tell us where to look. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell this is very helpful, thank you! Ppt91 (talk) 23:26, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
George Washington Carver
Thanks for removing the indefinite semiprotect on George Washington Carver back in November. I am wondering what to do because the page continues to have a lot of new/anon edits a lot of which is vandalism (but not all of it). Temporary semi will just tamp it down a bit, but it will probably come back. I suspect this one is a target especially because it is a subject frequently taught in US history education for young students. Maybe we try pending changes? Steven Walling • talk 21:53, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Steven, long time no see. I agree that GWC is a good candidate for pending changes. We can always layer short-term semi protection on top of it. I've removed indefinite semi protection from quite a few articles recently because it tends to get forgotten about. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:32, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Regarding the page "Bhatkal" which hasbeen protected against vandalism, unsourced Info and General Disruption
hi @HJ Mitchell,
The page Bhatkal, which you have locked or protected against any vandalism or for any other reason. The changes done by the user @Gotitbro on the section Notable People which are not notable and have not done anything for the development and contribution for the society of Bhatkal. If you want to keep it protected you can keep it, but kindly undo the changes done the above mention user, the info which has been
removed are as follows:-
- Maulana Abdul Bari Nadwi(1962-2016), Late Imam and khateeb jama masjid and principal of Jamia Islamia Bhatkal.
- Late SM Yahya (born 1938), Former MLA of Bhatkal, Finance and Cabinet Minister of Karnataka.
- Dr. Ali Malpa, (1920-2017), one of the founding member of Jamia Islamia Bhatkal
- Hassan Shabbar Prominent Bhatkali educationist and former President of Anjuman Hami-e-Muslimeen Bhatkal.
- Dr.Mohammed Hussain Fitrat (died 2018), A legendary Poet of Nawayathi, Konkani and Urdu.
if you want any reference of these people I can provide you.
thanking you,FakeInfoDetector (talk) 10:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC) FakeInfoDetector (talk) 10:15, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @FakeInfoDetector, I suggest you read WP:WTAF. — kashmīrī TALK 10:39, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- oh thanks for that info, even if it is correct should not be there in red linked unless when it is being written or under process. FakeInfoDetector (talk) 05:17, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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TFA
Thank you today for Northolt siege, "about a hostage situation in London (safely inside the M25, Tim!) in 1985, mostly remembered today as the first time a police officer from a dedicated armed unit shot a suspect. Up until that point, most suspects cornered by armed police either surrendered or shot themselves. It marked a turning point from the Dixon of Dock Green image of an entirely unarmed police force (which was always a myth) towards the use of more professional teams of specialist armed officers to deal with armed criminality. I started this article last summer and have recently come back to it and expanded it. Pleasingly, all the books I needed for this were already on my shelf. I'm hoping a friend will be able to get to Northolt when the weather allows to take photos of the location as it today just so the reader has something to look at, as all photos of the siege appear to be held by agencies."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
EventTitans Event Management
Your timely block on User:EventTitans Event management software does not seem to have detered them continuing editing as an IP here They will probably get tired of this game quite quickly, but you might to be aware. Regards Velella Velella Talk 10:48, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Velella: Thanks. I've hard-blocked the IP. Hopefully they get the hint. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Remove their TPA please. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 13:46, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Northolt scene edits
I believe that when you reversed one of my edits on the Northolt siege it once again became unclear that the officers stormed the apartment due to provocation by Walker, and not as part of any formal plan. The way it is now written is misleading (as it was before my edit). Curious as to why you are opposed to writing how Walker screamed "She dies, she dies!" in explanation of the raid. Epifanove (talk) 13:58, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Epifanove: Hi, I didn't feel that those edits were an improvement to the lead section, which needs to be a concise summary of the article. The article itself goes into quite some detail about the sequence of events but the lead is supposed to cover things in broader strokes. The storming of the flat was part of a rapidly moving sequence of events that started when Walker went for the riot shield, which is what the lead currently says. The sentence about the storming starts with "the officers", referring to the same police officers who chased him across the balcony in the previous sentence. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:51, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- I feel that the current form is unduly misrepresentative but fair enough. Epifanove (talk) 18:34, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Autopatroller rights
I shot you a text on my talk page, but you didn't respond, so I am sending you one here. I was wondering, how long is my autopatroller user right valid for? Qwerty284651 (talk) 21:27, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Qwerty284651: It's permanent. Obviously it can be revoked for cause but other than that you can just go about your business. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:41, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- I was asking because some rights are granted for a 3-month trial period and others permanent. Wanted to know what my user right expiration date was. Qwerty284651 (talk) 22:06, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- I sometimes do that for permissions that actually do something, but autopatrolled doesn't actually have any effect on the editor who has it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
autopatrolled doesn't actually have any effect on the editor who has it
other than the fact that users with autopatrolled can make new pages unhindered. Qwerty284651 (talk) 21:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)- But it exists for the convenience of new-page patrollers, not the person who has it. It doesn't guarantee that your creations will be "unhindered", it just allows NPP to focus on articles that are likely to have problems. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for clearing things up for me. Qwerty284651 (talk) 21:46, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- But it exists for the convenience of new-page patrollers, not the person who has it. It doesn't guarantee that your creations will be "unhindered", it just allows NPP to focus on articles that are likely to have problems. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- I sometimes do that for permissions that actually do something, but autopatrolled doesn't actually have any effect on the editor who has it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- I was asking because some rights are granted for a 3-month trial period and others permanent. Wanted to know what my user right expiration date was. Qwerty284651 (talk) 22:06, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Quick Question
Hi HJ, I've come across this Users recent edits, where they added archives to live sources. Is that good practice? 1AmNobody24 (talk) 06:15, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I am archiving links using the InternetArchiveBot to allow the sources to be archived. CastJared (talk) 06:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yea, but why? They're live links that don't need to be archived. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 06:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I think not all live links at each article. CastJared (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- In this edit you added archives to 189 live sources right after I did to the dead one. Explain that. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 06:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Because I archived 189 sources of this article, which multiple of them are from 2016 to present. CastJared (talk) 06:55, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Including from in different years. CastJared (talk) 06:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- But why do those archives need to be in the article? As long as the original sources are still live, all you're doing is making the article unnecessarily bigger. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 06:59, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- @1AmNobody24: It can be useful for links that are likely to go dead. Some websites are more stable than others but at worst it's harmless. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 07:35, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- @HJ Mitchell I just thought it would unnecessarily increase the size of articles. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 07:38, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- @1AmNobody24: It can be useful for links that are likely to go dead. Some websites are more stable than others but at worst it's harmless. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 07:35, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- But why do those archives need to be in the article? As long as the original sources are still live, all you're doing is making the article unnecessarily bigger. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 06:59, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Including from in different years. CastJared (talk) 06:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Because I archived 189 sources of this article, which multiple of them are from 2016 to present. CastJared (talk) 06:55, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- In this edit you added archives to 189 live sources right after I did to the dead one. Explain that. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 06:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I think not all live links at each article. CastJared (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yea, but why? They're live links that don't need to be archived. 1AmNobody24 (talk) 06:21, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Admin's Barnstar |
Thank you for your good work! Andre🚐 20:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC) |
- Thanks! I normally try to avoid ANI but I seem to have spent quite a lot of time there today! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Editor's Barnstar |
Thanks for all your hard work, especially anti-vandalism! Tails Wx 14:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC) |
- Thank you! It's nice to be appreciated! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:08, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
February 2023
You removed my report [2] of an IP user who has done vandalism countless times throughout their years editing on random articles. I provided evidence of their vandalism but was never given any other comment from Daniel Case. The IP user I think is definitely deserving of a block as you can easily go through their editing history to see their edits are pure vandalism. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 11:36, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Because they made two edits about six hours ago but their previous edit was four years ago. Which is why Daniel quite correctly decline it as "insufficient recent activity to warrant a block". Any administrator would have done the same. And declined reports are routinely removed from AIV so that admins can focus on the reports that do need our attention. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Regardless of how long ago it was. Vandalism has still been done countless times, I mentioned before. So that still gets disregarded? The IP user can come back anytime and vandalize however they please without being blocked. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 11:48, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's very unlikely that the person responsible for the vandalism in 2019 is the same person who was vandalising earlier today, and even if it was, with a four-year gap between edits there's no reason to think that a block was necessary to prevent further disruption. That they made two edits hen haven't edited again only confirms that. Blocks are used to prevent further disruption, not punish past deeds. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, I understand. Well, if the IP user does happen to start vandalizing again, I'll just report it. Have a nice day! Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 12:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, if they start again and become a persistent problem, and it look like a block is the only way to prevent them causing more disruption, please report them to AIV. In that case, they'll be blocked quickly. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, I understand. Well, if the IP user does happen to start vandalizing again, I'll just report it. Have a nice day! Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 12:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's very unlikely that the person responsible for the vandalism in 2019 is the same person who was vandalising earlier today, and even if it was, with a four-year gap between edits there's no reason to think that a block was necessary to prevent further disruption. That they made two edits hen haven't edited again only confirms that. Blocks are used to prevent further disruption, not punish past deeds. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Regardless of how long ago it was. Vandalism has still been done countless times, I mentioned before. So that still gets disregarded? The IP user can come back anytime and vandalize however they please without being blocked. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 11:48, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Canvassing
You seem like a level headed administrator despite your adoration of Taylor Swift, and I noticed you've cautioned Wes sideman in the past. I'm wondering if you could give him a bit sterner warning this time. Regarding RFC's at theShaun King and Helms Amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act talk pages he is clearly violating WP:Canvassing by contacting editors and groups of editors he thinks can help him "win" the discussion. Your efforts will be appreciated. Cheers! Goodtablemanners (talk) 03:22, 18 February 2023 (UTC) Examples: [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Hello HJ Mitchell. I'm really sorry for bringing this to your attention, but I feel like it needs to be. Despite being advised by you and others, Wes sideman, seems to have ignored it. Once again, they imply/accuse me of lying [7] or claiming I am a "right-wing" editor. [8] Here Wes accuses GTM and I of "tag-teaming" without evidence[9] I understand that my writing here might make one think that me and GTM are "tag-teaming" here, but we are not. I was going to post this message here regardless of GTM posting. However, since GTM and my issue are with the same editor, I feel that posting in this section would be better than making a new one. Furthermore, they accuse GTM and I of "personally attacking" them by making the ANI. I understand how one might feel that, but I feel that I never attacked their character, only taking issue with how they treated me. The most concerning for me is this. [10] It seems to me that Wes believes there was nothing wrong with how they treated people and ignored the advice you and others have given them. I do not want Wes to get in trouble, but they have refused to accept any fault on their part and seem determined to ignore advice given to them. Once again, I am sorry for bringing this up again. I hope you have a good day! 3Kingdoms (talk) 04:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm really getting bored of the three of you popping up all over the place. I've topic-banned Wes sideman from abortion for a short while for the repeated accusations of misconduct. However, I need the the two of you, @3Kingdoms and Goodtablemanners:, to back off from him. Unsupported accusations of misconduct are unacceptable, but so is badgering someone to the point that they lose their temper. Leaving neutrally worded messages inviting editors to a discussion is not canvassing, unless you can show that the choice of places the notification is left is skewed, and even then it's easier to correct it by leaving messages for a broader range of people than to complain about it. Please would you both acknowledge that you've read this, and agree that as long as he follows his restriction, you won't talk to or about him until it expires? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:56, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, HJ. I wasn't looking for a death penalty. However, groups such as Project Feminism and Project Civil Rights aren't likely to have many members of the Jesse Helms Fan Club, and NorthbySouthBaranof was the only other editor who had previously objected to Shaun King's rant about white Jesus images being included in his article. Regards. Goodtablemanners (talk) 14:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- My message was not meant to come across that way. I am sorry for that. I agree that a cooling off between me, GTM, and Wes is for the best. Cheers and have a good day. 3Kingdoms (talk) 17:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, HJ. I wasn't looking for a death penalty. However, groups such as Project Feminism and Project Civil Rights aren't likely to have many members of the Jesse Helms Fan Club, and NorthbySouthBaranof was the only other editor who had previously objected to Shaun King's rant about white Jesus images being included in his article. Regards. Goodtablemanners (talk) 14:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm really getting bored of the three of you popping up all over the place. I've topic-banned Wes sideman from abortion for a short while for the repeated accusations of misconduct. However, I need the the two of you, @3Kingdoms and Goodtablemanners:, to back off from him. Unsupported accusations of misconduct are unacceptable, but so is badgering someone to the point that they lose their temper. Leaving neutrally worded messages inviting editors to a discussion is not canvassing, unless you can show that the choice of places the notification is left is skewed, and even then it's easier to correct it by leaving messages for a broader range of people than to complain about it. Please would you both acknowledge that you've read this, and agree that as long as he follows his restriction, you won't talk to or about him until it expires? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:56, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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The OP here is repeatedly attacking Girth Summit. A sock also joined in but Yamla took care of that and protected ANI. I mentioned you and I see you haven't said anything, and I don't blame you at all, but if you can it might be useful. Doug Weller talk 11:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Lol, I see I should have checked ANI first, sorry! Doug Weller talk 12:02, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
If you're still online....
Could you take a look at Keith Olbermann and the RFPP for it? Thank you! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (Message me) 00:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry: sorry, I'm rarely online at midnight these days. Good to see you're still around though. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:04, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey, could you rev-del some personal attacks on the talk page Talk:Bakasuran if it's appropriate? — DVRTed (Talk) 16:52, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'd have to delete a series of good edits to get rid of it, so probably better to ignore it and just let it fade into the history. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Draft move
Hey! First off, I saw your message at FAC and you were right, I did find it interesting. I literally formed a reply in my head and then didn't write it down! Thank you for tagging me, truly. I still remember the discussion that was generated when I took Alexander McQueen to ITN after his death. Anyway, I was wondering if you could move my draft User:JuneGloom07/Cam to Cameron Tait for me? It's a bit of an experiment to see if any of The Bill character and episode articles can be revived/improved. - JuneGloom07 Talk 20:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hey! Always nice to hear from you. I'm sure if you had any suggestions or comments, they'd be welcome at the FAC. I've moved that draft for you. Nice to see someone working on The Bill. There's definitely some notable characters and episodes/story arcs in there; just takes a bit of digging for the sources! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:03, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for that. I think I got lucky with Cameron, with the actor being well-known to both UK and Australian audiences. I agree about the sources though. The newspaper archives have become invaluable lately, especially for older characters/episodes. I don't know if you or User:5 albert square had any plans for further articles, but do let me know so I don't tread on anyone's toes. - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- I don't have any plans. I'm doing other things these days. I've written about some actual policing but I'm mostly writing about random things like bridges and war memorials. There have got to be plenty of characters and story arcs that could do with better articles. There must plenty to say about the Don Beech scandal and Smithy and some of the other long-running characters. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for that. I think I got lucky with Cameron, with the actor being well-known to both UK and Australian audiences. I agree about the sources though. The newspaper archives have become invaluable lately, especially for older characters/episodes. I don't know if you or User:5 albert square had any plans for further articles, but do let me know so I don't tread on anyone's toes. - JuneGloom07 Talk 23:28, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Great work
Just stopping by to let you know that your work at AIV and UAA are noticed and appreciated. Thanks for the hard work. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:48, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! Nice of you to say so. And good to see you putting your mop to use. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- I figure since it was decided it was worth trusting me, I might as well make use of it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
I also have to say, you're pretty quick in taking action and replying at AIV. Good work! Tails Wx 18:42, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's on my watchlist, and I tend to leave my watchlist on live changes in a separate tab when I'm online (even if I'm busy elsewhere). AIV is almost always at the top, given that it's the most edited page on the site, hence the quick response when I'm actually looking at it! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- AIV is the most edited page on the site? I thought it was WP:ANI or even WP:TEA, but given AIV's page history, I believe you're correct! Great way to multitask! :) Tails Wx 21:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Database reports/Pages with the most revisions (knew it was somewhere!). AIV and ANI are the only pages with over a million edits and it looks like AIV leads by about 600,000! AN and the Teahouse trail by quite a way. But then the Teahouse is relatively young; some of the others have been around since the dawn of time. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- 1 million edits on AIV–now you're correct :) Pages starting with Wikipedia: and user talk pages are leading by a lot against the articles! Tails Wx 22:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- 1.8 million to be precise; I wonder how long we'll have to wait for it to get two million. I guess we like to argue a lot! But I suppose articles don't often need huge numbers of edits. You can write a featured article in a few hundred edits and then it just needs the occasional maintenance edit or update with new information. Looks like the top-edited articles are mostly lists that need almost constant updating. Whereas AIV is constantly being added to and cleared. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree! Maybe I'll give it a shot at updating them later! :) Tails Wx 22:13, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- 1.8 million to be precise; I wonder how long we'll have to wait for it to get two million. I guess we like to argue a lot! But I suppose articles don't often need huge numbers of edits. You can write a featured article in a few hundred edits and then it just needs the occasional maintenance edit or update with new information. Looks like the top-edited articles are mostly lists that need almost constant updating. Whereas AIV is constantly being added to and cleared. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:10, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- 1 million edits on AIV–now you're correct :) Pages starting with Wikipedia: and user talk pages are leading by a lot against the articles! Tails Wx 22:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Database reports/Pages with the most revisions (knew it was somewhere!). AIV and ANI are the only pages with over a million edits and it looks like AIV leads by about 600,000! AN and the Teahouse trail by quite a way. But then the Teahouse is relatively young; some of the others have been around since the dawn of time. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- AIV is the most edited page on the site? I thought it was WP:ANI or even WP:TEA, but given AIV's page history, I believe you're correct! Great way to multitask! :) Tails Wx 21:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Userpage misuse
Hi there HJ, it's nice to have a reason to contact you again, even if it is like this.
ZD1997 has been using their userpage as a webhost for a couple of days now; I had left it alone just in case it turned out that they were going to use the content for an article. They have racked up over 300 edits on their account, purely on this page. After a cautious {{Uw-userpage}} and a discussion on their talk page (I was considering tagging the page for U5 now but was holding off until the user replied on their talk), it looks uncertain whether they going to be using it in the encyclopedia.
I wanted to get your opinion as this is my first time coming across something like this and I trust your experience. If you could check out the situation then I would be appreciative. Thanks again, Schminnte (talk • contribs) 21:49, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Schminnte: Apologies for the delay. I agree it's odd. Often something like that is a sign of someone trying to game extended-confirmed protection but this doesn't look like that. I guess just leave it and maybe monitor in case it becomes a problem. We can delete and block if necessary but I don't want to bite. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. It seems like they want to help but might be misguided slightly. I've got their userpage in watch just in case. Thanks, Schminnte (talk • contribs) 11:33, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Block evasion
Hi there, with this and this in mind, this looks like account creation with block evasion. I already reverted the edit, but you might consider further action. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 16:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- @DVdm: Thanks, indef'd. Let me know if you see any more like that. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Will do. Thx. - DVdm (talk) 12:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).
- Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
- Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
- A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.
- The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.
- Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
- The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
- A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.
- The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
- Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
- The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a
[p]roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing
. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.
RfC and early closure
In an abundance of caution, I'm now posting here to ask you about this situation. I'm aware that you topic-banned me from abortion topics. I did notice that an editor involved in the discussion, User:Firefangledfeathers, closed the RfC long before the customary 30-day RfC period had played out. In addition, that editor actually cast one of the votes. They claimed that there was " solid consensus to replace "strident anti-abortionist" with "prominent opponent of abortion". " This after 2 days and 6 editors weighing in, 2 of which disagreed. I asked them to reverse the closure. They removed that request from their talk page, and posted on my talk, basically with a veiled threat that I shouldn't be involving myself at all, even to point out an early RfC close by an involved editor. I don't believe I violated your topic ban, as my note was purely about procedure, but as I said, I'm being cautious and asking you to evaluate the situation yourself. Thank you. Wes sideman (talk) 14:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Wes, I'm sorry to hear you took my talk page comments as a veiled threat. I removed your comment at my user talk page and left as nondescript a message as I could at yours. I generally view broadly construed TBANs as a minefield, and I prefer not to see editors sanctioned for first-time slip ups. I hoped, and still hope, to get you to understand the scope of the ban so that you don't violate it any further. If I'm wrong about what is covered by the scope, then I'm sorry, and I'll work to make it up to you. By the way, I have disagreements about how you characterized the RfC and my closure, but they're not really the main focus here. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:00, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Deleted Defeedme sock. Doug Weller talk 13:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Wes sideman: Yes, that was a violation. "The subject of abortion, broadly construed" very clearly includes an RfC about how to describe an opponent of abortion. The whole point of the restriction was to give you some perspective. There are 6.5 million articles in this encyclopaedia and I doubt more than a few hundred are closely related to abortion. I wanted you to step away from that controversial topic area and remember that there is more to Wikipedia than arguing over how we describe one person's position on that issue. Frankly, that you're continuing to argue about the difference between "strident anti-abortionist" and "prominent opponent of abortion", after a topic ban, makes me wonder if I was too lenient. And Defeedme or whoever you are, every time you pop up in one of these discussions you generate sympathy for Wes and detract from the discussion at hand. You're actually making it les likely he'll be sanctioned. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:49, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I did not take part in the RfC. I asked the closer, who was closely involved in the RfC and closed it after two days if he didn't think that was a bad decision. Probably should've brought it to you first, or appealed the topic ban, but okay, I didn't even know this was a power admins could wield until you sentenced me. I'm not arguing about "strident anti-abortionist" and "prominent opponent of abortion" after the topic ban - perhaps you could point out where I'm arguing about that after the topic ban? I don't see it. I've left it alone. The note on Firefangledfeathers' talk page was purely about procedure and I didn't even mention the content once. Wes sideman (talk) 13:20, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Strange block duration
Why did you block Special:Contributions/162.127.209.253 for 8 years, 81 days, 1 hour, 26 minutes and 24 seconds. Why not something simple like 9 years? Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 18:08, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- This is egregious abuse of admin tools; I don't think you can justify a block any longer than 7 years, 240 days, 3 hours, 21 minutes and 11 seconds. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- (11 seconds is where I draw the line!!! — DVRTed (Talk) 18:50, 1 March 2023 (UTC))
- I believe I observed a block that lasted for 10 years. :) Though there's a limit? Hmm... Tails Wx 18:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I tend to block for 1001 days if they've come back from a one-year block but this one needed longer so I tripled it. It used to show in the logs as 1001 days (or in this case 3003 days) but some years ago someone changed the way MediaWiki parses durations longer than a year and now it gets mangled. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Rollback
Hello, I was wondering if rollback was only able to be used for the most recent edit. Because there was a page with two edits that were vandalism and someone else made an edit (not vandalism) on top of those two and I couldn't rollback the vandalism. I still had to revert both edits individually. DDMS123 (talk) 19:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- @DDMS123: You might be able to use good old-fashioned "undo" if the later edits don't conflict with the ones you want to revert. If the whole lot needs to go, you can edit the old version and save it (see Help:Reverting; Twinkle and Popups are helpful for this). Otherwise, you have to edit it back to the old version. But in a nutshell, yes, rollback only works on the most recent edit. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:44, 1 March 2023 (UTC)