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Growth team updates #10

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Sources needed for Days of the Year pages

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Good to know. Thanks, Toddst1. I've always liked how clean the days-of-the-year pages look, but it will be nice to see refs right there, rather than having to follow to the individual articles & search. = paul2520 (talk) 14:38, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

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I already got my ticket! Can't wait! Thanks, McGhiever! = paul2520 (talk) 03:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Paul2520,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 816 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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List of unlawfully killed transgender people

Hello Paul2520, thanks for looking over my Changes, I'm still new to this. The Problem is, there is not really Citation for this. I just compared the Sources of the Cases 'Kira' and 'Nina Surgutskaya' and they look very similar, as both Reports are from the same Day, both Cases happened in Kursk, the described Murder is exactly identical and the Culprit is named Mikhail for both too (only the second one gives his Surname though). So I thought it would be redundant to have both as separate Cases. I didn't want to go as far as completely removing one of them, so I just included a Remark about this, to point out the high Probability that it is one and the same Case. But maybe you have a better Idea how to do that? --Glimmer-Vigdís (talk) 10:16, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Glimmer-Vigdís! Thanks for following-up. It's great to have you on Wikipedia & I really appreciate you using critical thinking when editing.
Unfortunately, what you are describing is original research, which is not the point of Wikipedia. We really need reliable sources to keep this encyclopedia a trustworthy reference.
My suggestions are: (1) include both names, referencing both sources you mentioned. It's possible, unfortunately, that someone named Mikhail killed two trans people that day. Or possibly two different perpetrators named Mikhail. (2) hold-off until a source appears linking the cases.
My suggestion is to follow option (1), but keep your eyes open for another source (you could set-up something like a Google alert, if you'd like).
Let me know if you have further questions. = paul2520 (talk) 13:32, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Nellie Two Bear Gates

Hello! Your submission of Nellie Two Bear Gates at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:21, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Jürgen Möller

Hello Paul, can you please help me to translate Jürgen Möller from the German Wikipedia into the English Wikipedia? Möller is a military historian and wrote many books about the end of the war in Germany, especially about the liberation by the American army. Möller has also researched Raymond J. Bowmann. I would be glad if you could bring the German article about Jürgen Möller on the English side. I wrote the article in German and met Jürgen Möller personally with Lehman Riggs in Leipzig at the Capa-Haus. I am looking forward to your answer. --Caisare (talk) 20:53, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Caisare, and thanks for reaching out! I'd be happy to do so. I don't speak or read German, but I've translated articles in the past. I'll start with Google Translate & see how well I can do with what it outputs. Then perhaps you can help tweak?
I'm not sure exactly when I will get to it, but should be sometime this week. = paul2520 (talk) 22:18, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Caisare, I went ahead and translated the article. See Jürgen Möller. I welcome your improvements.
I had trouble with part of the Sonstiges section from the German article, but I can look at [1] and add it to the section later. Translating is tiring work! = paul2520 (talk) 23:30, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Paul, I would like to thank you for translating so quickly. fantastic. I can now also write additions using the Google translator and you correct. once again many thanks. Jürgen Möller will also be very happy. --Caisare (talk) 03:59, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for asking me to do it, Caisare. I enjoyed it during a break I had. I am thinking I can nominate the article for Did you know.... Would you like to help? I think mentioning Capa and Bowman would be interesting. = paul2520 (talk) 04:07, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
yes, Capa and Bowman are famous in Leipzig. I still have a lot of photos from this meeting in the Capa house. Maybe I can send you some photos to your email address and you decide which photos still belong in the Wikipedia. Lehman Riggs is still alive, he is probably now 100 years old and has experienced the death of Bowman. I help with Google Translate. --Caisare (talk) 04:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
@Caisare: Sure, you can send me an email here. Please include the source of the images. = paul2520 (talk) 05:43, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
is my correction good? --Caisare (talk) 10:26, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
I think so. Thanks, Caisare! = paul2520 (talk) 20:37, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Rick and Morty

Hello. You recently performed an edit to the Rick and Morty article, in which you added a "missing" Notes list. Perhaps I'm missing something, but there are no notes listed at this time. There already exists a populated reference list. I see that the {{notelist}} template has been added which would automatically populate the list... provided someone adds notes within the article body. I'm not here to interfere with the edit, I'm just making an observation.
Christopher, Sheridan, OR (talk) 06:39, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, DeNoel, and thanks for following-up. At the point in time I added the section yesterday, there was a note & the missing {{notelist}} caused the page to be in the maintenance Category:Pages with missing references list. I removed the section since it's now empty. This sometimes happens if a stray note was transcluded, perhaps from a table that's maintained in another article, and it gets changed/removed there. = paul2520 (talk) 14:04, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Storme Webber

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DYK nomination of Susan Billy

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DYK nomination of Louie (Louisa) Cullen

Hello! Your submission of Louie (Louisa) Cullen at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 12:56, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Your welcome

Thank you, Paul, for your welcome message.

I prefer to edit anonymously, so I shall delete it. But I am glad that you found my edits constructive — I always hope that they are, although of course I make mistakes.

94.21.38.126 (talk) 18:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good! Feel free to reach out with any questions. = paul2520 (talk) 02:05, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Storme Webber

Hello! Your submission of Storme Webber at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 00:29, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Well-Strung

On 1 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Well-Strung, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that string quartet Well-Strung has performed "Chelsea's Mom", a reimagining of "Stacy's Mom", for Hillary Clinton? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Well-Strung. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Well-Strung), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Well strung ;) - Re Clara Schumann: an approval needs a green or blue tick. The bot can't read. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: looks like someone figured it out :-) = paul2520 (talk) 00:00, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Yes, there are humans left ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Your Advice

Hey guy, What's up!

I appreciate and thank for your decent advice.

Thanks a million

SHISHIR DUA (talk) 12:10, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm glad it was helpful, SHISHIR DUA! Thanks for the note -- and the kitten! = paul2520 (talk) 15:21, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for nominating me. I really appreciate it. I learned this from history class in my school in Thailand. I don't have any internet sources because I haven't found any, but my teacher is always reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanakorn Srichaisuphakit (talkcontribs) 03:49, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions, Tanakorn Srichaisuphakit. Please see the feedback provided on the nomination page, as it looks like there are some concerns I missed. = paul2520 (talk) 14:17, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Hey Paul contacting you about the David Gokhshtein page!

I saw you as the last editor. He contacted me yesterday about cleaning up the page so I did, making subsections editing and, akimg it more formal. I saw you were the last editor so I wanted to contact you so we could maybe work together on this?

Another wikipedian told me his page is being denied due to lack of notability which I think is very much up for dispute considering he not only has a lot of articles and news pieces to his name but is even listed on the 1st District 2020 Congressional Elections own wikipedia page. So that's just strange to me...

Any thoughts on what to do on that?

Best wishes - Emmaneul Pacings Emmanuel Pacings (talk) 23:10, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Emmanuel Pacings, and thanks for reaching out. I'm happy to help newer editors like you working on new articles. I enjoy submitting articles to Did you know..., so if this article gets approved & meets the criteria, I would be more than happy to nominate it / help you through that process.
I first urge you to review WP:COI, since you mention being in direct contact. Also WP:PAID, if the subject is compensating you. There are implications in either scenario.
I'd say you could start a thread with one or both of the reviewers. I would recommend doing so on their talk page, and use {{ping|User1|User2|...}} to ping them. Feel free to also ping me. It seems like you've done some work since the last edits, and have a case regarding notability. I'd be interested to see what the reviewer(s) say.
You also may be interested in Wikipedia:Essay directory#Notability. Bear in mind these are essays, not rules, but they have some interesting points regarding subjects about which we should be writing. = paul2520 (talk) 23:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you message

Ah thank you! I appreciate you for making contact with me! Also since I never did say thank you for the warm welcome you left on my talk page let me say it now. Thank you! I love this website and hope to contribute to it in as many ways as I possibly can.

Oh I had no idea about those. Thank you for the information, I will surely look into it and I really do appreciate the help. I've edited before but I am really knew to being a user and contributing more than just some minor things

Again thank you for the information I will work on disputing this issue and keep you updated!

Best wishes - Emmanuel Pacings Emmanuel Pacings (talk) 23:40, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Hey Paul just wanted to give you an update

The reviewer didn't respond after I messaged him so I just decided to resubmit the article for review. After all I fixed all the problems listed. At least I think I did. But anyway thanks for all the help, you are not only kind but a real lifesaver. Have a good day wherever you are my friend!

Best Wishes - Emmanuel Pacings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmanuel Pacings (talkcontribs) 13:38, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

David Gokhshtein

Hey Paul sorry to ask of this of you. You don't need to help if you don't want to, you've already been such a big help already so if you wanna wash your hands with me and this David article go right ahead I won't blame you. But apparently the article is still being denied due to lack of notability.

There's also the fact that I didn't disclose that he paid me. As since he wasn't hiring but more did it as a thank you I didn't know if I was technically an employee. That's easily fixable. Howeber they said the sources in the article aren't adequate?

I assumed they were considering they come from Forbes, Business Insider, and other notable companies as well? Can you I don't know help me out by maybe clarifying if I am right in my thinking here?

Also I appreciate you editing my Zombicorns article.

Best Wishes - Emmanuel Pacings Emmanuel Pacings (talk) 20:03, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Hey Emmanuel Pacings, like I said previously, I would put a note on the reviewer's page and ask. You can ping me, as I'd be interested to hear more.
Re: being paid, please review WP:PAID and WP:COI. I'm unclear how you mean he paid, but didn't hire you; reading those two links should be helpful.
And I wanted to give you a tip: when you leave someone a message, please make a new section, or leave your comments in an existing thread, rather than under an existing, unrelated section, like you did here. = paul2520 (talk) 20:18, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi again, Emmanuel Pacings. Did you see this comment? That makes more sense to me.
Maybe if Gokhshtein is elected, he can enact positive policies and social change & thereby gain notability.
This can be rough, but I'm happy to see your enthusiasm & willingness to spend time developing articles in other areas of interest. Feel free to reach out in the future; I'd be happy to collaborate on a new article or Did you know... at some point! = paul2520 (talk) 16:21, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

The Casino

I wish you would have waited before starting the article. I was going to flesh something out and nominate it for DYK. Can you add 1000 characters of relevant text? --evrik (talk) 16:03, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

evrik I was being bold & we have a week to nominate it. I should think we can add more... did you already have some sources aggregated? = paul2520 (talk) 16:16, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
I added links to the bottom. There is enough to write 1000 characters. --evrik (talk) 16:22, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
@Evrik: Sweet! Are you able to spend time on it? I'd relish the help! = paul2520 (talk) 16:34, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
No draft; the article is live! See The Casino (Seattle). = paul2520 (talk) 17:22, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
I hate having a hundred changes on an article in development, I put a copy up her: User talk:Evrik/draft5 to play with. --evrik (talk) 21:55, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 17:39, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Nellie Two Bear Gates

 — Amakuru (talk) 03:09, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

The South Korean articles like US articles

I ask to you, why the almost all South Korean article on Wikipedia use American date Format (MDY Format) like US figures not use British date format (DMY Format) ? 111.94.241.4 (talk) 22:55, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi. You might see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers, especially the Formats section. In short, different formats are acceptable. I'd say you might be better served by asking that question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea. = paul2520 (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

and why the Chinese article use British date format (DMY Format) not use American date Format (MDY Format) ? 111.94.241.4 (talk) 06:58, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

My earlier response is valid here, too. See also the longer response Amakuru gave you, on their talk page. = paul2520 (talk) 13:47, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Paul2520!

Thanks for your cleanup! I could use your help. Someone after you (Sphilbrick) reverted back and took away ALL other changes on 12/17 due to "copyright issue." But I think that only relates to one of the change at 14:47. How do I address? Do I need to rewrite so as not too close to the website copy. It also looks like some kind of bot was involved here? Thanks in advance for your help!

JudyQuinn (talk) 19:20, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi, JudyQuinn. I hope you don't mind; I removed your copy/paste of the page's history from the message you left me (it's available here).
Pinging Sphilbrick re: copyvio issues, since I cannot view or restore deleted edits; I was only editing because I noticed the page was added to Category:Pages with missing references list.
In short, yes, we cannot copy/paste content unless the source has released the text into the public domain. See Wikipedia:Copyright violations and Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing to get started.
It's best to have reliable sources that are not the subject of the article, anyway.
= paul2520 (talk) 19:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Louie Cullen

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

thanks for being so helpful and encouraging Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:08, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

A graph showing the number of articles in the page curation feed from 12/21/18 - 12/20/19

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 Rosguill (talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 (talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG (talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 (talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 (talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn (talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter (talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth (talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

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Problem with the Portuguese People article

I have made an edition changing the words of a phrase and adapting them to the source that it has attached (Because the previous phrase differed from the source), in addition, I added two more sources of a scientific nature. The user Melroross is systematically erasing the scientific sources even though they are reliable, and the words of my edition are literally the express meaning of those scientific sources. Could you help me and review the case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.78.247.214 (talk) 14:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Dear Paul2520, This user who seems to have a serious obsession against the Portuguese and dwells on Moors Jews and Berbers forgot to sign their malicious edits for the past few days. Why don’t they add this type of content to the Spaniards page makes you wonder. For the recordMelroross (talk) 14:46, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

name: search

IP 84.78.247.241 Hostname 84.78.247.241

Continent Code EU Continent Name Europe

Country Code (ISO 3166-1 alpha-2) ES

Country Code (ISO 3166-1 alpha-3) ESP

Country Name Spain

Country Flag country__flag

Country Capital Madrid

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Melroross (talk) 14:46, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Persistent Vandalism on Portuguese People page

Dear User talk:Paul2520

For the past couple of months, I’ve witnessed repeated vandalism against this page. The users are almost invariably from unsigned or VandalismUser temporary profiles based in Brazil or Spain or from Spanish/Hispanic users who, for different reasons have manifest anti-Portuguese sentiments. The most recent is this series of IP addresses I suspect by the same user who has an obsession with the racial contribution of Jews and Arabs being supposedly higher in Portugal than in Spain and also the Portuguese contributions in the New World discoveries. I’ve suggested making this page protected or semi-protected as it is highly counterproductive and tedious, having to deal with malicious and vandal edits. Can you help with this? What is the procedure for a semi-protection to be put in place? Many thanksMelroross (talk) 14:41, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Suspect Vandalism user: IP address 46.222.138.139 IP address 84.78.247.241 now also created user User:NormanGear same unique purpose: Vandaluser. Melroross (talk) 14:58, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Melroross. Similar to KylieTastic (see discussion here), I feel ill-informed; I am nowhere near an expert on the topics being discussed. I did some maintenance edits, which is I believe why the other editor reached out to me.
Wikipedia:Help desk and Wikipedia:Dispute resolution would be better places; I'm not sure I'm the best editor to mediate this dispute.
I see the page has temporary restrictions; Wikipedia:Requests for page protection is a good place to learn more about requesting page protections.
I would also encourage you to engage in the discussion at Talk:Portuguese people#Edit war. A cursory exploration suggests to me that the anonymous editor is now using a registered account & is open to discussion.
Let me know if I can be of further assistance! Like I said, I'm not an expert on the content, but I am in favor of furthering our goals through collaboration. = paul2520 (talk) 00:00, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


Hi Paul,

A permanent semi-protection as I see it from following this for a while, is the only way to keep this page protected from vandalism/malicious manipulation from users like the one reported above. For years I have been editing on and off until in the past few months I noticed something “intriguing”: Each time there was a “edit conflict” it was invariably caused by either Brazilians or Spaniards, or either of the two located elsewhere in the world but with ties to either or. Being partly Portuguese and having studied Humanities and Linguistics at the oldest and most prestigious Lusophone university, Coimbra, I am very confident in the History, Culture and Language of Portugal. I know only too well about the historical resentments from some Brazilians who blame the Portuguese for all which is wrong with Brazil today and some Spaniards who cannot comprehend why Portugal came to be and for over 900 years repudiated their many attempts to impose a united Iberia. I believe that the current independent movements in Catalonia may make more Spaniards feel that Galicia where they basically speak “old Portuguese” despite many centuries of “Hispanisation” where even surnames, names of towns and the language itself were suppressed and replaced as late as 1974, may also want independence or worse, join the Lusophone league of countries. The Spanish issue is deeper as historically the Portuguese sided with the English and in fact were the inspiration for NATO for instance. The English humiliated Spain and spread a racial rumour of “beyond France it’s all Africa” which was an insult aimed at the Spanish and their long, deep-rooted Moorish influence. The Portuguese expelled their Moors almost 3 centuries earlier and in terms of Islamic legacy or importance, this was much smaller in Portugal. Portuguese and Galician are mainly Iberian-Celtic, the two language variations are Romance and stem from the medieval Galician-Portuguese which has little Arabic influence and more relevant Celtic components. The official Spanish language, Castilian has 8% of Arabic in their inventory and the Islamic heritage is also quite prevalent in architecture, cuisine, music etc. The Spanish have endured the “Hispanic” stigmatisation from America for many decades too. It is something many find hurtful and I know that a lot of Spaniards try now to separate themselves from the Hispanic definition meaning, they are not brown and semi-illiterate Latin-Americans but a European, first world people. The Portuguese are traditionally racially unaware and were never confronted with justifying their origins in a racial way... there’s not one Portuguese race but a melting pot of ancient peoples who settled in Portugal. If you see the two pages and compare the scrutiny, you will notice something very “intriguing” again. A lot of the genetic studies quoted here have been carried out by either Spaniards or Spanish-friendly scholars. The “Moors” are avoided like the plague and the Visigoths gain a legendary importance which even Boris Johnson, the current UK prime minister noticed and made a programme about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS07hDVoJcM

and the issue is contentious at other levels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQbY8xIAQuo


There’s no such sub-section as “Genetic History of the Iberian Peninsula” in the Spaniards page, contrasting with the Portuguese people page. Now as Iberia is at least 75% Spain how come this topic only touches Portugal, the tiny neighbour? Precisely because the Portuguese don’t have hang ups about their culture or genetics or language or racial qualification:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaniards. (the page is of course, protected already)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

Now what I will not tolerate is having more ignorant vandals from Spain or Brazil or wherever else try and use Wikipedia as a means of disseminating racial and cultural hatred or discrimination against a people and a culture which deserve respect.

For all of the above I request you/whom it may concern to make this page permanently semi-protectd:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_people

Many thanks Melroross (talk) 15:30, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

@Melroross: I am not an administrator. You are asking the wrong editor.
Did you read my earlier message? = paul2520 (talk) 16:04, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying Melroross (talk) 17:04, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Paul

Thanks for the corrections in citations, I must be a bit rusty.

You were very responsive. Thanks

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Lehman Riggs

hi Paul, Lehman Riggs, the friend of Raymond J. Bowman, turned 100 on January 18, 2020. he was honored in a large newspaper article in Leipzig. can you please bring it to the english wikipedia? I will also put it on the German Wikipedia. unfortunately I don't know much about his life. --Caisare (talk) 20:47, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

@Caisare: Can you give me a link to both the newspaper article and the German page when you create it?
I can take a look. The only question is Notability, and being friend of someone who has an article does not make one notable! = paul2520 (talk) 22:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
http://herald-citizen.com/stories/a-century-of-service,39802

https://www.mdr.de/zeitreise/ns-zeit/capa-haus102.html http://literock959.com/event/cookeville-putnam-county-veteran-lehman-riggs-100th-birthday-celebration-hosted-by-the-veterans-honor-guard-and-leslie-town-center/ https://www.pressreader.com/germany/leipziger-volkszeitung/20200118/282535840324379 https://www.ingebell.de/archiv/human-rights/capa-haus-leipzig/ https://www.leipzig.de/news/news/oberbrgermeister-empfngt-us-veteran-lehman-riggs/ Hi Paul, Thank you very much for your info. I‘m trying to write an article. greetings --Caisare (talk) 15:57, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

@Caisare: send me a link when the article is complete! Thanks, 16:32, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
ok, i will interview other people --Caisare (talk) 19:27, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
@Caisare: I caution you to review Wikipedia:No original research. Unless your interviews will be published (which then raise issues of conflict of interest), interviews are primary sources, and articles should generally be most heavily drawn from secondary sources. = paul2520 (talk) 20:19, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
thank you, paul, i still collect literature about riggs on the internet. but find no information about his place where he was born. tennesse? Best wishes --Caisare (talk) 18:24, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
@Caisare: I see. Well, we can still create an article without a specific birth place! = paul2520 (talk) 18:54, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Paul, Lehman Riggs now as a German article, please read. I hope the article is not deleted --Caisare (talk) 23:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehman_Riggs --Caisare (talk) 23:55, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Paul, my article on Lehman Riggs remains in Wikipedia and an administrator has corrected something, otherwise ok, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehman_Riggs , best wishes --Caisare (talk) 19:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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Request for Semi-Protection

Dear, Paul2520 that Golla (caste) wiki article is needing Semi-Protection because of preventing some silly autonomous users from editing valuable sources and informations with reference. So, please brother kindly consider my request and see the article and confirm Yourself and take an action. Please Brother consider my request .Thanking You Sathyanarayana naidu (talk) 12:44, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

@Sathyanarayana naidu: I am not an admin. See Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. = paul2520 (talk) 13:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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Charles Ledger

Hello - You made some authoritative changes to the entry for Charles LEDGER Personally, I am trying to find the origin of the following statement, (both huguenot origin and 18th C immigration to England)

"Ledger belonged to a huguenot family that emigrated to England in the 18th century; "

and wondered if you might have any ideas?

The apparent reference "Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 5, MUP, 1974, pp 73-74. Retrieved 9 Sep 2009" is not actually any help

Thanks

Phil Ledger Pledgerw (talk) 11:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Pledgerw. I'm not sure what you mean by "authoritative" changes, but I do see that I contributed to the article a couple years ago.
I added a citation needed template with the note about the claims not found in [2]. You might consult that article's references!
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Help Required

Hey guy what's up. I wanna see my pages which I translated form where can I access the same. I even tried Xtools where we can see Wikipedia progress but there weren't anthin' there. I'd express my extreme gratitude towards you I you can help me in any possible way.

Thanks

SHISHIR DUA (talk) 10:53, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, SHISHIR DUA! If I'm understanding correctly, you essentially are looking for articles you started? There's a user contributions filter for that.
Does that help? = paul2520 (talk) 16:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Please tell me the way how can I access the names of the articles that I translated form foreign languages to English.SHISHIR DUA (talk) 01:27, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Did you not find them via the link provided? = paul2520 (talk) 02:13, 4 March 2020 (UTC)