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==== '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park]]''' and '''[[Old Appomattox Court House]]''' and '''[[McLean house]]''' and '''[[Clover Hill Tavern]]''' and '''[[New County Jail]]''' and '''[[Jones Law Office]]''' and '''[[Woodson Law Office]]''' and '''[[Plunkett-Meeks Store]]''' and '''[[Bocock-Isbell House]]''' and '''[[Peers House]]''' and '''[[Mariah Wright House]]''' and '''[[Charles Sweeney Cabin]]''' and '''[[Sweeney-Conner Cabin]]''' and '''[[Sweeney Prizery]]''' and '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park ruins]]''' and '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park cemeteries]]''' ==== |
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... that the '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park]]''' ''(pictured)'', an antebellum village containing the '''[[Old Appomattox Court House]]''', '''[[McLean house]]''', '''[[Clover Hill Tavern]]''', '''[[New County Jail]]''', '''[[Jones Law Office]]''', '''[[Woodson Law Office]]''', '''[[Plunkett-Meeks Store]]''', '''[[Bocock-Isbell House]]''', '''[[Peers House]]''', '''[[Mariah Wright House]]''', '''[[Charles Sweeney Cabin]]''', '''[[Sweeney-Conner Cabin]]''', '''[[Sweeney Prizery]]''', '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park ruins|various park ruins]]''' and '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park cemeteries|park cemeteries]]''', is where the American Civil War ended? 16 article hook, all new articles. self nom by --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 13:06, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Yikes! Alt: ... that the '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park]]''' ''(pictured)'' is an antebellum village containing 13 historical buildings along with cemeteries and various ruins? [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) 15:04, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::'''Oppose''' to the ALT because I would like to get all 16 articles in the same hook, a record DYK for the [[Wikipedia:Did you know/Hall of Fame]]. All 16 articles are new articles that qualify. --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 16:38, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::As I see it, the whole idea of DYK is to show new articles to readers. In this case a reader who is really interested in all 16 articles will find them all by reading the first. Even if that is ''not'' the purpose of DYK, I do know that the purpose of DYK does not include writing hooks in odd ways solely to get on a "hall of fame". [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) 18:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Would all of them even withstand an AfD? '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]][[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red"><sup>11</sup></font></b>]]''' 17:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::IMO, this game of trying to cram the largest possible number of articles into a single hook is contrary to the purpose of DYK. The original hook proposed here is much too large to have any useful value in attracting attention to interesting new articles. If this is what [[Wikipedia:Did you know/Hall of Fame]] leads to, then perhaps the Hall of Fame should be abolished. --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 18:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Second Orlady's comment. We have already been subject to some nasty criticism for perceived award-collecting behavior, and putting an overlinked mass on the Main Page just for one user's gratification would not be appropriate and would subject us to more unneeded wikidrama. (No intention there to offend you, Doug Coldwell—you've done impressive work here and, no matter what happens with this hook, we will still remember that you were able to write and nominate 16 articles at once—it's just that this kind of hook would not be beneficial for the DYK project or for readers.) |
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::::Besides, if you break this up into a couple hooks (assuming that a few of these article subjects are notable enough to be in a hook independent of [[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park]]), your articles would get more airtime and more attention. |
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::::Personally, I believe it would be better to merge all those sub-articles into [[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park]] (that might even make it a good candidate for FL or FA), but this is not the appropriate venue for that discussion; it might be worth discussing at that article's talk page, though. That kind of merge, though, would make the ALT hook fine. [[User:Politizer|Politizer]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Politizer|talk]]</sup></small>/<small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Politizer|contribs]]</sub></small> 18:38, 21 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Suggest the below alternate hook of 14 articles which I believe would receive much airtime for all the articles involved, especially if it were to be the first hook in the Queue with its pictute. It isn't anything different than what has already been done for the 8, 9, and 11 article DYKs in the [[Wikipedia:Did you know/Hall of Fame]]. |
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::'''Alt 2''' ... that the '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park]]''' ''(pictured)'', where the American Civil War ended, contains period structures of the '''[[Old Appomattox Court House]]''', '''[[McLean house]]''', '''[[Clover Hill Tavern]]''', '''[[New County Jail]]''', '''[[Jones Law Office]]''', '''[[Woodson Law Office]]''', '''[[Plunkett-Meeks Store]]''', '''[[Bocock-Isbell House]]''', '''[[Peers House]]''', '''[[Mariah Wright House]]''', '''[[Charles Sweeney Cabin]]''', '''[[Sweeney-Conner Cabin]]''' and the '''[[Sweeney Prizery]]'''? 14 new articles, self nom by --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 09:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Doug, you need an interesting fact to make a good DYK hook. The end of the American Civil War has nothing to do with most of your hook! --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.22.20|74.14.22.20]] ([[User talk:74.14.22.20|talk]]) 16:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Each of the period (Civil War) structures says in each article of that particular structure that the National Park Service says the structure is significant because it was in the Appomattox Court House National Historical Park (then the village of Appomattox Court House) at the time General Lee surrendered to General Grant. The end of the American Civil War has everything to do with each of these structures. The National Park Service has restored each of these structures because of this significance and they are all part of this history (the end of the American Civil War). Some have more important significance than others. For example: the [[McLean house]] is where Lee and Grant signed the surrender papers (picture of replica tables in the article). The [[Clover Hill Tavern]] is where the pardons (picture in the article of a typical parole) were printed for the Confederate soldiers, so they could return home with no hassle from others. --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 19:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Then put these interesting things in the hook(s), Doug! Neither of your proposed hooks explain what each item has to do with the American Civil War! Let's forget about the record and opt for hook quality, okay? --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.126.178|74.13.126.178]] ([[User talk:74.13.126.178|talk]]) 07:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC) |
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''The hook isn't thrilling, but it's far from the dullest ever. This is, after all, a mighty effort by Doug.'' [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 08:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Alt 3''' ... that the '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park|Appomattox Park]]''' ''(pictured)'' has a '''[[Old Appomattox Court House|Court-house]]''', '''[[Clover Hill Tavern|Tavern]]''', '''[[New County Jail|Jail]]''', '''[[Plunkett-Meeks Store|Store]]''' and '''[[Sweeney Prizery|Prizery]]''', the '''[[Bocock-Isbell House|Bocock-Isbell]]''', '''[[McLean house|McLean]]''', '''[[Peers House|Peers]]''' and '''[[Mariah Wright House|Wright]]''' houses, the '''[[Charles Sweeney Cabin|Sweeney]]''' and '''[[Sweeney-Conner Cabin|Sweeney-Conner]]''' cabins, the '''[[Jones Law Office|Jones]]''' and '''[[Woodson Law Office|Woodson]]''' law offices, '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park ruins|ruins]]''' and '''[[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park cemeteries|cemeteries]]'''? [[User:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">Xn4</span>]] ([[User talk:Xn4|<span style="color:#9911DD">talk</span>]]) 08:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:* Alt 3 looks like a reasonable compromise. Question: is each building separately on the NRHP?--[[User:Bedford|<font color="black">'''King Bedford I'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Bedford|<font color="green">Seek his grace</font>]]</sup> 16:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::Yes, ALT 3 looks excellent to me also. No, I do not believe each building is in the NRHP. --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 16:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I have found [http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/va/Appomattox/state.html this] NRHP for the Park. Could a better info box template be used for [[Appomattox Court House National Historical Park]]? --[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 17:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::If the buildings are not separated on the National Register then how are they notable enough to qualify for their own page? [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|talk]]) 17:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Why not save all 16 articles for 16 hooks in a special DYK (2 queues?) on April 9th, the anniversary of the end of the ACW? Getting 16 articles on the main page on a single day (UTC) will probably be a record. --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.21.155|74.14.21.155]] ([[User talk:74.14.21.155|talk]]) 20:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:As far as I am concerned, this sounds like an excellent idea. It would be neat to be in 2 queues then, with the associated picture.--[[User:Doug Coldwell|Doug Coldwell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Coldwell|<font color="darkblue">talk</font>]]</sup> 22:11, 24 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:: Discuss at [[WT:DYK]]. --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.20.242|74.14.20.242]] ([[User talk:74.14.20.242|talk]]) 16:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I tend to agree with Ottava Rima. These buildings are not independently notable, and should probably be merged into the article on the National Historic Park. I'm sure the next step will be going to Colonial Williamsburg and Dearborn Village and other similar places and breaking it down building by building (The '''Men's Restroom''' at Colonial Williamsburg ...). This may not be the ultimate in DYK game playing, but it's pushing it.--[[User:Wehwalt|Wehwalt]] ([[User talk:Wehwalt|talk]]) 17:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::::It is a bit of a mouthful and I ought to know. I recently submitted a 14 article hook which read much better than this (in that it wasn't a list of articles without any additional words), went off on one or two tangents and in the end was broken down into 9+5. On hindsight this was probably the best thing to do. If someone could come up with a decent string of independent articles that couldn't possibly be broken down, rather than a list of interconnected ones that could be broken down, that would be much more deserving in my opinion. It shouldn't be that records come before the type of content. --➨♀♂<span style="color:red">[[User: Candlewicke|Candlewicke]]</span> <sub> [[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<big><u>S</u></big>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Candlewicke|<big><u>T</u></big>]] </sup><sub>{{#if:|<span style="background-color:# :);color:green;"></span>|<span style="color:green;"># :)</span>}} </sub> 20:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::I have left a note at the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places|NRHP wikiproject]] asking for opinions on this submission. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 08:56, 29 January 2009 (UTC) |
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- (ALT 1) "... that former major league pitcher Dave Wainhouse is the assistant coach of the Seattle University Redhawks baseball team?" -- caknuck ° resolves to be more caknuck-y 07:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The length and the first ref is fine, but a "We're sorry, but the page you requested could not be found." pops up for the SBTS one. Good article, though. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 18:03, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- All citation links now link to appropriate page. The Inbaseline link which had the wrong url associated to it has been changed to Yahoo!TV link. SonPraises (talk) (contributions) 19:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length checks out, as does the reference. Good job on the article! Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 18:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- This hook is stating the obvious. Hooks are supposed to be interesting and attention-grabbing. - Mgm|(talk) 11:27, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- (ALT1)...that Anise Hollingshead of GameZone found the "unpredictable" controls of Neighborhood Games frustrating? Imperat§ r(Talk) 18:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The article is good, but it requires more than just one references. In addition, the article should be more specific to incorporate page numbers, etc. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 18:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Image is of S. umbrosa, the species subject of most of Darwin's carnivory studies.
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- ...that after the New York Central Railroad ended service to it, the train station (pictured) in Milton, New York, was used by a local winery for tastings? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 06:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- "... that John Maynard, a former West Indian cricketer, gained his nickname The Dentist due to his reputation for knocking opponents' teeth out with his fast bowling, "hurting batsmen till they get out"?
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Comment Suggest "fantastic" rather than "exotic", in view of the fact that the Tuvan "stamps" were almost certainly faux.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- (ALT 1) "*... that the book Tuva or Bust!, about Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman's efforts to visit Tannu Tuva, was inspired by Feynman's childhood memories of seeing postage stamps from Tannu Tuva?" might be an alternative -- Alansohn (talk) 04:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The whole time?--Wehwalt (talk) 01:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Article relies entirely on the official website of the author. Needs citations from reliable third-party sources. - Dravecky (talk) 20:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm doubtful of there being many other sources out there. If this flaws the nomination, I'm willing to accept that but there are few reliable sources on the subject area. Greggers (t • c) 20:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Found a source in Newham Recorder that acts toward notability. Added it. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q.
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- NOTE: I had edited the artilce as Isaacs had died recently and had a stub article, but had never seen the article before. After expanding the article, nominating it for DYK and then reviewing the article's history, the article had been cut down to address a copyvio that left the stub that I expanded. The original version of the article, little changed since its creation early in 2006, appears to have been copied straight from this link. I did not use that link as a source (though I probably should have), and added material from other reliable sources. Alansohn (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- This is a 5x expansion? Mario1987 20:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not a 5x expansion. The rules require a completely new article or at least a 5x expansion, meaning the article (more precisely the prose portion) must become 5 times longer. That would be impractical with such a long article to begin with. Art LaPella (talk) 22:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- It has to be expanded 5 times the size of now? How would that work, what kind of a rule is that? Gryffindor (talk) 13:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- Right, take the nomination out then please. Gryffindor (talk) 14:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Article is now at Lu Chen (without the modifier) since there was no competing entry anymore. - Mgm|(talk) 13:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- So changed. Art LaPella (talk) 22:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that firefighters had to shut off a fire hydrant in Hawaii after it was struck by a rockslide as a result of heavy rainfall from Hurricane Darby (2004)? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 05:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Good to go. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm hopeful that a less mundane hook can be crafted from this interesting article. - Dravecky (talk) 20:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Good to go. (Print reference accepted on GF). ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that Rural Solidarity, a trade union of Polish individual farmers, was officially recognized on May 12, 1981, after months of strikes, protests, and sit-ins? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 18:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Excellent article! Length verified. Date should probably be moved to Jan 28. I was able to verify the refs for the buffalo and pigeon, but not the gopher or curlew. Although one of the refs for the curlew seems to be mislinked, so if that is fixed the mention of curlew in the hook may be ok.Rlendog (talk) 13:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. thank you. SriMesh | talk 14:43, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Cekcs out. Rlendog (talk) 16:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. thank you. SriMesh | talk 14:43, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Almost 25 years at Parade - check. (I put an inline after this statement)
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- To include the article title in the hook, how about (ALT 1) *... that the Tony Jannus Award for distinguished achievement in commercial aviation was named for the pilot of the first scheduled commercial airline flight in the world using heavier-than-air aircraft? Alansohn (talk) 03:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've corrected hook to include article title. Remainder of Alansohn's (Alt 1) is OK, too, length-permitting. JGHowes talk 13:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- length, expansion, date and offlibe reference validated. Rlendog (talk) 01:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- BTW, I added an image to the nomination. Rlendog (talk) 04:32, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- IMDB is used as a source. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Good to go. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Online refs, length, age all check out. Nice work, beautiful photos, including historic image. Great job. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that John Duncan Watson is regarded as a pioneer in the development of sewage treatment?
- or .. that John Duncan Watson was responsible for the construction of the first large-scale percolating filter sewage treatment plant? -new article, self nom - Dumelow (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Good to go with preference to second option. On a side note, is "percolating filter" the common term used in Britain? I've only heard it referenced as a trickling filter. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I preserved the term used in the source. The only time I have heard of them (I study in the UK) they were just called filter beds but this manufacturer calls them percolating filter beds so perhaps it is a British only term. I had never heard of a trickling filter before I wrote the article. Hope that helps - Dumelow (talk) 16:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Good to go with preference to second option. On a side note, is "percolating filter" the common term used in Britain? I've only heard it referenced as a trickling filter. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- or .. that John Duncan Watson was responsible for the construction of the first large-scale percolating filter sewage treatment plant? -new article, self nom - Dumelow (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The above will be my 200th DYK hook
ifafter Fountain of Time (belowsee queue) becomes my 199th.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Don't you mean first official blog post? The way you worded it now implies he's going to keep multiple different blogs which is highly impractical. - Mgm|(talk) 20:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes corrected as follows: ... that during the inauguration of Barack Obama, Macon Phillips, the White House Director of New Media, posted the first official Obama Administration blog post from Whitehouse.gov?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- The above will be my 200th DYK hook
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- Looks good, but Google Books is being dumb and not letting me see the page, so only an AGF pass. —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 05:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The ref given is here - the "In Release" period given is 7 days as the default lowest, but the site gives a release date of June 6 and gives a close date of June 8 below. —97198 (talk) 12:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I can't find support in any of the sources for the claim that the fault was discovered in January (or precisely on January 21, as the article says). More likely, the work was done over many months and the press release came out in January. --Amble (talk) 07:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- How about: "... that in January 2009, it was announced that a new faultline had been discovered in Arkansas?" Punkmorten (talk) 09:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Is there even a source to say that it was first announced in January 2009? --Amble (talk) 09:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- (alt hook)... that the recently announced Marianna Fault in Arkansas was discovered due to the stretches of fine sand in otherwise fertile soil?
- How's this alt hook instead?--King Bedford I Seek his grace 18:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Confirmed. - Mgm|(talk) 11:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The mid section of image can be cropped. --Redtigerxyz Talk 14:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The references 3 and 4 which I suspected to back up this hook didn't mention the name Spiderville stated in the article nor idea of seasoning spider with garlic and salt. References need to be improved. - Mgm|(talk) 11:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed. I added the wrong Star reference by mistake - had too many tabs open when I hit the cite web button! Thanks for picking that up. Paxse (talk) 14:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT ... that the monuments of the ancient Maya city of Seibal in Guatemala display an unusual mix of Maya and foreign elements?
- ... that the trees that gave the Frederick Clarke Withers-designed Maple Lawn (pictured) in Balmville, New York, its name were later destroyed in a hurricane? Self-nom. I know this has only one source, the NRHP application, but it is a secondary source and, believe me, there aren't any others. Daniel Case (talk) 17:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- This is also a new article, it was previously about a character in a novel that was AfDed and redirected to the novel in question. This new article was started on the 25th. --Bobak (talk) 02:05, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Fixed grammar and added date 1578 from article. --Wetman (talk) 01:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Isn't Chinese commonly held to be have been printed before European languages?? Circeus (talk) 19:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- I guess it was block prints in China. Even early Mesopotamians seem to have such blocks. But, if am right, to print in modern terms is to use movable system where alphabets can be changed so as to print books. Probably it would be safe to say ..... first non-European language to be printed (1578) in a printing press. Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 09:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Jack Ramsay, Larry Brown, Bill Fitch, and Mike Dunleavy, Sr. are the only head coaches to have reached the playoffs with the Los Angeles Clippers? New article, self-nom by -- SRE.K.A
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- ALT: ... that the Parc de Belleville is the highest park in Paris and contains the longest cascading water fountain in the town too? - Mgm|(talk) 19:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Confirmed original hook. I'll leave my own alt for someone else to confirm.- Mgm|(talk) 19:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Confirmed ALT hook too - but aren't you in the Wikicup ;) Paxse (talk) 13:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Confirmed. - Mgm|(talk) 20:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, date and PD image check out. Offline refs accepted AGF. Nice article Paxse (talk) 14:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The hook is not cited in the article with an inline citation. --Bruce1eetalk 13:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- It is mentioned in the last three of the six references listed at the end of the article - BBC, History by the Yard, Metropolotan Police
- But a better hook might be:
- ... that Latvian anarchists shot dead a policeman and a 10-year-old boy in the Tottenham Outrage on 23 January 1909?
- That is confirmed by all of the six references (including the map). -- Testing times (talk) 17:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes I see the refs at the end of the article, but could you please provide inline citations (not bare urls) as per the DYK rules. --Bruce1eetalk 06:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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A bolded link to the article Crawford v. Nashville should appear in the hook, as you can see in the other hooks here, or in Additional Rule B1. Art LaPella (talk) 06:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)Fixed. Art LaPella (talk) 20:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The article length checks out and is well referenced but I couldn't find the fact above in the references. Can you add it? Paxse (talk) 13:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- this link includes the sentence that "Rabbi David A. J. Cardozo, who formerly was associated with the Spanish-Portuguese Synagogue in New York, conducted the first service for the Jewish congregation in Madrid since the expulsion of the Jewish people there started in 1492." I will be more than happy to send .pdf images of any or all of the sources included in the article. Alansohn (talk) 14:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- My mistake, references check out - thanks for clarifying. Paxse (talk) 15:03, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- If this hook doesn't float your boat, have a look at the article. There are plenty of other interesting factoids in there. I'm happy I was patient about this one. When I tried to write the article 2-3 years ago, there were just a handful of references available... Sometimes waiting is better. - Mgm|(talk) 09:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook refs verified. Fascinating story - Now I want to try one of the chocolates! Paxse (talk) 13:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Expanded length, date and hook reference verified. Nice job on the expansion. Paxse (talk) 13:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, date and hook refs verified. --Bruce1eetalk 14:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Just to clarify, this is not common (for produced scripts, anyway). Consider also that these guys have only made two (completed) films since founding the company. —97198 (talk) 04:03, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- The plot and cast sections are entirely unreferenced. - Mgm|(talk) 13:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- More references were added. The article has plenty.--Miguelemejia (talk) 03:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Flip Saunders is the only Minnesota Timberwolves head coach to have been to the playoffs with the Timberwolves? New article, self-nom by -- SRE.K.A
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- Source, length, and date verified. I altered the hook and the article to match the cited reference. Awadewit (talk) 18:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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I'm going to get these district stubs expanded and hopefully on the front page. Paxse (talk) 10:16, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Which country??? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 07:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Taken care of in original hook, added "United States".--Wehwalt (talk) 14:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that when the mediaeval Old Punch Bowl in Crawley, England, was a bank branch, tourists often asked to buy the rare antiques which National Provincial had furnished it with to maintain its character? Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Couple of possibilities there, but alternatives are welcome. Original hook confirmed by a combination of refs; [1], [3] and [4], mainly. ALT1 uses [23] and [24], which say broadly the same thing. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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- For those who might not speak German, can you provide some context on what sort of entity this is? — Bellhalla (talk) 21:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT Hook: ... that DEO (the oldest German school in Cairo) was closed twice for Germany's affiliation in the two world wars?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 23:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Hook is 228 characters (should be under 200). —97198 (talk) 04:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Reduced it now. Gryffindor (talk) 08:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Erm, I can't see any expansion, much less 5x, in the past few days... Constantine ✍ 12:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The hook contradicts the lead. The hook says 11th century, the article says 10th. - Mgm|(talk) 13:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for pointing that out. It started in 1000's, which makes it the 11th century, not the 10th. Gryffindor (talk) 13:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- How is that different from what all developmental biologists do? I'm not feeling the DYK wonder. - Mgm|(talk) 18:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Re-reading the hook, I can't argue. How's about (ALT 1) "*... that developmental biologist Aron Moscona's research on how embryos develop into complex tissues and organs led to the discovery of cadherins, proteins that allow cells to recognize each other?" Alansohn (talk) 04:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- That's the problem with obit writers, they're not chemistry or bio experts. There's scores of proteins that allow cells to recognize each other (rather than molecules as stated in the obit) --> receptors. We need to specify that we're talking same cells and that it causes clustering. Any idea how to work that into a hook? - Mgm|(talk) 14:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have tried to rad some of the articles linked through from this one to better understand and word the article and the hook, but I will admit I'm no cellular biologist. I will look through again and try to hit the correct wording. Alansohn (talk) 14:12, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Online reference also available at mnhs.org, though I didn't use it in this article. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 04:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I think this would be better: "... that the flora of Saskatchewan is used for jellies,...." First Light (talk) 18:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- alt... that the indigenous flora of Saskatchewan is used for jellies, jams, pies, herbal teas, medicinal decoctions and technological products? Alternate version? (Thank you as above.)SriMesh | talk 12:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- alt ... there are seven diverse vegetative regions providing diversity past Saskatchewan's prairie stereotype?SriMesh | talk 20:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that none of the New Orleans Hornets head coaches have been elected into the Basketball Hall of Fame as a coach? New article, self-nom by -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 anyone? 03:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC).
- Considering the age of the franchise and how short a time the Hornets have been in New Orleans, something more interesting is needed for a DYK hook. --74.14.20.242 (talk) 15:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that the first head coach of the NBA club now known as the New Orleans Hornets was Dick Harter, whose tenure lasted for two seasons? -- SRE.K.A
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- Two seasons? Seems rather ordinary. But I can't think of anything better yet.--74.13.129.119 (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that former Six member Sinéad Shepherd is returning to Irish television on The All Ireland Talent Show in February 2009? (new article, self nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 01:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- "is returning... in January 2009"? This hook may end up on the main page in February. BTW, has Shepherd been away from Irish TV? --74.14.20.242 (talk) 15:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- I know little about her but from what I can find she doesn't appear to be regularly on it. 2001 – 2009 is a gap of eight years though. The line would no doubt be tweaked before it went on queue if the tense was incorrect. Although, looking into the series she's supposed to be on, my understanding is that the episode she appears in is the next Sunday after now which is 1 February... though the reference says the show began in January but I'll change the hook... --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 21:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Perhaps we should save for April Fools? ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 00:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- If you need more sources, there's [1] and [2]. The route across Vermont appears to be VT 129, US 2, and VT 18. --NE2 18:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've added the 1924 map as a source for the T.R. routing in Vermont. --Polaron | Talk 18:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that the Maryland Residence (pictured) in Bethesda, one of the few houses designed by César Pelli, consists of five pavilions linked by a central gallery? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 06:16, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- "architect César Pelli's few houses..." would be better, since now it sounds like some guy with a few houses. First Light (talk) 19:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- So reworded. Daniel Case (talk) 16:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Changed again to make it absolutely clear this is not a place he lives. Daniel Case (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, date good, subscription refs accepted in good faith (I corrected the date of death in the lead paragraph of the article). The hook could be shortened to:
- ALT: ... that Hungarian ballerina Nora Kovach's 1953 defection to the West was the first highly publicized Cold War-era defection of individuals in the field of dance? --Bruce1eetalk 08:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that William Henry Ellis's tenure as Master Cutler of the Company of Cutlers in Hallamshire lasted for four years instead of just one because of the First World War? - self nom, new article - Dumelow (talk) 20:16, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Expansion and date good, foreign language refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1eetalk 08:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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xIf there is a reason to make an exception to Additional Rule A4, there is much precedent that a copyvio isn't such a reason (unless of course, we change that oft-controversial rule for everyone). Also, "this article is not exactly a 5x expansion", it's a 1.6x expansion. Art LaPella (talk) 20:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- The article was a cut-and-paste from the two sources I've linked above. If I didn't rescue the article, it would have been deleted as a blatant copyright infringement. Are you saying that I should have just allowed the article to be deleted under G12, and then recreated it as a new article so that it would qualify for DYK? Cunard (talk) 21:14, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, yes. This argument has also been presented a couple times before (less politely as I remember), and yet A4 remains unchanged. I didn't write A4, but I know there is no consensus, and no time, for analyzing and debating the quality of each previous article version before determining how many of its bytes to count. Nor has there been a consensus for making an exception to A4 for copyvios. Wikipedia talk:Did you know is a better place to debate the rules. Art LaPella (talk) 05:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- How 'bout this? Because I think it's worth encouraging people to save speedies on worthy subjects and removing copyvios, I am willing to delete the previous edits. That way history will show that it was started on Jan 25. Will that work? Renata (talk) 14:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think so. This problem recurs regularly, so even if we agree with you, that would only fix the problem once at best. A more constructive solution would be a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know, leading to a possible change to A4 to exclude copyvios. Art LaPella (talk) 22:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've proposed a change to A4 at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Articles saved from copyvio deletion. Cunard (talk) 23:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have now changed A4 accordingly. Art LaPella (talk) 21:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that the first Filipinos to settle in Saudi Arabia arrived in 1973? SpencerT♦C 18:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Filipinos in Saudi Arabia are the second-largest source of remittances to the Philippines? SpencerT♦C 18:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I've bolded the article as it seems this was forgotten when nominated. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 15:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Who are Sunderland and what sport is this talking about? — Bellhalla (talk) 23:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Cleared up. Sunderland06 (talk) 16:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Another case of the nominator forgetting to bold the article. Fixed. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 15:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- - The hook is slightly too long at 232 characters. If you could trim it down a touch that would be great. Sunderland06 (talk) 15:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- '... that to open the swing door on the General Aircraft Hamilcar glider and allow vehicles such as the Universal Carrier to drive out, pilots had to climb out of the glider's cockpit and slide down fifteen feet of fuselage?' How does that look? Skinny87 (talk) 15:59, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT - 'that to open the swing door on the General Aircraft Hamilcar glider and allow vehicles such as the Universal Carrier to emerge, pilots had to climb out of the glider's cockpit and slide down fifteen feet of fuselage?' Skinny87 (talk) 16:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- The first one is 222 characters, and the second is 216, so they need trimming a little bit. The article is long enough, date is fine, and the hook is referenced, so just the hook needs trimming then its fine. Sunderland06 (talk) 16:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh crikey, let me try again. How's this: '... that to open the swing door on the General Aircraft Hamilcar glider and allow vehicles to emerge, pilots had to climb out of the glider's cockpit and slide down fifteen feet of fuselage?'
- The first one is 222 characters, and the second is 216, so they need trimming a little bit. The article is long enough, date is fine, and the hook is referenced, so just the hook needs trimming then its fine. Sunderland06 (talk) 16:06, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- That's great now, I count 190 characters with the elipses and question mark. Cheers. Sunderland06 (talk) 21:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Could fifteen be 15? Julia Rossi (talk) 04:51, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
(od) '... that to open the swing door on the General Aircraft Hamilcar glider and allow vehicles to emerge, pilots had to climb out of the glider's cockpit and slide down 15 feet of fuselage?' - How's that? Skinny87 (talk) 09:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- When? Rs.4 lakh in the 1920s is not the same as Rs.4 lakh today. --74.13.129.119 (talk)
- He spent Rs. 4 lakhs during his tenure as Minister of Education and Excise between 1928 and 1930. The exact year is not mentioned in the book-RavichandarMy coffee shop 03:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I added the Shelbyville one after the fact, so uploader to Next Update will need to place the Shelbyville one manually.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 13:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the village of Gresham, Norfolk, once had a 14th century castle with four round towers and a moat, now ruined and overgrown by trees (pictured)? 6 x expansion, self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 12:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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- alt *... that Bengali saint Ramakrishna (pictured) could enter samadhi several times a day, when he showed all signs of death, in that doctors could not find a pulse or heart beat?
- suggestion to blend hook into one sentence and focus the point. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- correction *... that Bengali saint Ramakrishna (pictured) could enter samadhi several times a day, during which he showed all signs of death, and doctors could not find a pulse or heart beat?
- I have made a correction, pls check it and let me know for possible corrections. --Nvineeth (talk) 09:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Article not linked. Article was started in oct 08. --Redtigerxyz Talk 13:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've linked and bolded the article in each possible hook. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 15:50, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... although since it was started in October I don't think it will be featuring... --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 15:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry my mistake, I did not read the rules correctly. Thanks, I will keep this in mind. --Nvineeth (talk) 16:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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- A PhD is not an absolute requirement to become a professor. I'd remove the last few words from the hook. The rest is interesting enough, methinks. --74.14.20.242 (talk) 15:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Of course it's not a requirement (Robert W. Floyd is another well-known example, and fine arts faculty usually have M.F.A.s) but in the sciences it's very rare, rare enough I think to be worth mentioning. The L.A. Times seems to agree; the second paragraph of their obit begins “An academic rarity who became a full professor without ever earning a doctoral degree.” Also, I think the rhythm of the hook works better with three clauses than with two, but if you prefer you could replace the third clause by "and was over 100 years old when he died". —David Eppstein (talk) 17:27, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- And accounting school and law school profs don't need a PhD. It's not really that much of a rarity, imo. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 08:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Accounting school and law school profs do usually need a terminal degree, but it may be a M.B.A. or J.D. rather than a Ph.D. just as art school profs typically have an M.F.A. rather than a Ph.D. But I think the hook is clearer with "Ph.D." in place of "terminal degree". —David Eppstein (talk) 03:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Alt hook ... that Victor Vacquier escaped Russia by sleigh across the frozen Gulf of Finland and went on to pioneer the use of submarine detectors for investigating plate tectonics?
- Surely pioneering research in plate tectonic's is 1,000 times more significant than not having a Ph.D. ... and short, simple hooks work better. Autodidactyl (talk) 17:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- No inline refs. Lampman (talk) 02:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the romantic comedy Little White Lie followed the attempts of an actor to attract the attention of a television presenter by pretending he was a psychiatrist? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 04:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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- alt... that six pre-historic meteor impacts have created large astroblemes affecting the Saskatchewan geological strata?
- alt... that six pre-historic meteor impacts have created large astroblemes discovered by research in geology of Saskatchewan?
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- Oops! Thanks for the notice. (I've suggested ALT hooks 1-4 below). --Amble (talk) 06:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Jamaican Gun Court was created in 1974 to try firearms cases in camera, without juries or bail, and had a mandatory sentence of indefinite imprisonment with hard labor?
- ALT2: ... that on establishing a dedicated Gun Court in 1974, Jamaican Prime Minister Michael Manley declared that "There is no place in this society for the gun, now or ever"?
- ALT3: ... that the Jamaican Gun Court Act of 1974 mandated a sentence of indefinite imprisonment with hard labor for all firearms offenses, including possession of unlicensed guns?
- ALT4: ... that the Jamaican Bar Association protested the Gun Court Act, noting that under the law children as young as 12 could be sentenced to life in prison for possessing used ammunition?
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- I can't actually find that fact in the article, likely because I'm quite dense. Could you point it out to me? Sarcasticidealist (talk) 18:33, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- So's the article, I'm afraid, I'm writing with an eye to FA. It is near the end of the World War I section.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Source, length, and date verified. Awadewit (talk) 18:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 24
Template:DYKsuggestion Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- That hook doesn't conform to several of our rules, so ALT1: ... that Vladimir N. Beneshevich, Russian historian, paleographer, and member-correspondent of the Academies of Sciences of four countries, was murdered by communists in 1938? Art LaPella (talk) 04:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Pre-empting any comment about the five-fold expansion, please note that the "prose portion" has been extended sufficiently because according to the rules the list portion is not counted. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 15:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I'm sure you meant "then President", or "U.S. President at the time". --74.14.20.242 (talk) 15:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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- 1st edit was a para (of mine) from Ceramic art (itself less than 5 days old I think) but the article is now much more than 5 x longer. Johnbod (talk) 19:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, and source verified. I can't believe we didn't have this article already! Awadewit (talk) 22:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I haven't reviewed it but made some general alterations to make it easier for reviewers. The article wasn't mentioned in the hook so I've put in where it seems appropriate and bolded it. I've also changed England link to the more correct United Kingdom. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 15:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- Added a pic. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 08:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Good thinking. This is the type of DYK that probably deserves to be in the lead (if successful that is). --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 20:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Al Ameer son (talk) 05:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've bolded the article. --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 15:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT:... that it was once believed that 12,000 prisoners had died aboard the Gulag ship Dzhurma? --74.14.20.242 (talk) 15:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you; ALT is better.Ekem (talk) 20:44, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length and date good, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. I struck out "work" in the hook: magnum opus = great work. --Bruce1eetalk 08:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 21:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Saying "that of the ten Brough Superior Austin Four motorcycles...." would be more helpful for those who don't know what an "Austin Four" might be. First Light (talk) 18:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the television series Use It or Lose It documented the return of former association footballers Niall Quinn and Ronnie Whelan to their respective youth teams? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 20:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Two possibilities. (new article, self nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 20:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that an episode of the documentary series Hostage detailed the 1988 kidnapping of two nurses in Ethiopia?
- ... that an episode of the documentary series Hostage detailed Saddam Hussein's placing of two Irish civilians as "human shields" at sites of strategic importance during the Gulf War?
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- Ferdinand-Wilhelm Fricke is also new. Don't forget {{DYKmake|Ferdinand-Wilhelm Fricke|EA210269}}. --74.14.20.242 (talk) 15:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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261 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 03:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)But it's 2 articles. Art LaPella (talk) 04:26, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that only after World War II had ended was it publicly revealed that the Motor Torpedo Boats responsible for sinking the Hurtigruten passenger ship SS Irma (pictured) and the cargo ship SS Henry off Norway in 1944 belonged to the Royal Norwegian Navy? {Even if the rules says it's okay to have compound hook longer than 200 characters, shorter is better.} --74.14.20.242 (talk) 16:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, shorter is often better, and that hook is fine by me. I fixed a small typo in it. Manxruler (talk) 16:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT: ... that Indonesia's largest container terminal, handling 3,689,783 TEU's of freight in 2007, is in the Port of Jakarta? --74.14.20.242 (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that the first head coach of the Atlanta Hawks was Roger Potter, who coached for only seven games with the Hawks? New article, self-nom by -- SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 review me 01:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- The first head coach of the Atlanta Hawks was Richie Guerin. The team wasn't known as the "Atlanta Hawks" when Potter was the coach! --74.14.20.242 (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT:... that the first head coach of the NBA club now known as the Atlanta Hawks was Roger Potter, whose tenure only lasted seven games into the team's inaugural season in 1949? --74.14.20.242 (talk) 19:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
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Articles created/expanded on January 23
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- Length and history verified; offline ref accepted IGF. Daniel Case (talk) 16:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The article says he worked at least one other job before a "brief" run in vaudeville so I'm not sure the hook as it stands is a fair characterization of the situation. - Dravecky (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- As noted in the article, Tolan didn't get a job after the Olympics until January 1933, when he was hired as a filing clerk in a county office. I have added a clarification that his brief vaudeville stint with "Bojangles" was in 1932 in the immediate wake of his Olympic fame. Cbl62 (talk) 07:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Length and history verified; offline ref accepted IGF. Good enough for me. Daniel Case (talk) 16:09, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length and history verified; offline ref accepted IGF. Daniel Case (talk) 16:06, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length and history verified; offline ref accepted IGF. Daniel Case (talk) 16:04, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- and choreographed, too? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 08:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- He's not technically credited at a choreographer. Just a director and generally conceptualized the whole idea. — Realist2 00:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've tagged the article with {{cleanup-link rot}} - please format citations correctly. —97198 (talk) 08:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Done — R2 03:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've tagged the article with {{cleanup-link rot}} - please format citations correctly. —97198 (talk) 08:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- He's not technically credited at a choreographer. Just a director and generally conceptualized the whole idea. — Realist2 00:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- But it's a dull hook IMO. There are a lot of new West End musicals, and the director's a fan? I would find it more unusual if he wasn't and took the job anyway. (Addendum: It seems the article is trying to imply he had no previous experience as a theatrical director when he created the show. If that's true, and can be sourced, then that should be in the hook). Daniel Case (talk) 16:01, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- and choreographed, too? --74.13.129.119 (talk) 08:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 15:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The hook and, ideally the rest of the article, should have inline citations. Awadewit (talk) 22:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Why? It is not exactly rocket science - most of the article is derived from the obituary in The Times, which the first item listed in the references; and the other four references all talk about the National Trust taking his house (subject to securing funding). I could add the same inline citation after every sentence, and then four different inline citations to the sentence about his house, but what it the point? The last time I did that, someone helpfully removed most of them again. -- One pound (talk) 23:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- There. I hope it makes you happy. -- One pound (talk) 00:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 15:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Date, 5x expansion, and source verified. Awadewit (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Drug means illicit drug, not Medication, eh? Suggest adding a link to Drug trade. --74.13.129.119 (talk) 08:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Done Thanks for the hint. CeeGee (talk) 12:09, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Please re-format your DYK hook in the form of a question.--74.14.17.102 (talk) 19:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Łańcut Synagogue in Poland was set on fire during World War II but the building was not destroyed? - Dravecky (talk) 17:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not an unusual hook; that's happened to many buildings. It would be unusual if it were set on fire and not damaged at all (in fact, that would be a miracle) or if God spoke from the flames. Daniel Case (talk) 21:31, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- very nice picture for a hook .... can you put it in the article? Victuallers (talk) 17:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Length, history and Russian-language ref verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about the copyright of the picture, that's why I just linked it to the article. --Grandmaster 07:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 22
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- Can we confirm that the prose has been expanded 5x in the time period? Otherwise looks OK. Daniel Case (talk) 06:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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- The reference only states that sugar is responsible for 40% of Guyana's agricultural production and 20% of the country's total revenue. Gatoclass (talk) 16:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT: that in its formative period, the Guyana Sugar Corporation suffered from lack of experience and access to reserves of foreign capital?-RavichandarMy coffee shop 03:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- And they are one of the few new companies ever to have had this problem? Daniel Case (talk) 15:55, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 21
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