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Battle of Phillora

I requested full protection for the page Battle of Phillora a few days ago as I did not wanted to get into edit war with another editor even after providing multiple references. After engaging into discussion with him however, I feel that he is just trying to idle my time. First he insists that all Indian sources should not be used knowing well that mainstream neutral media generally looks at the war as a whole and though the battle was important hardly any reliable neutral source would have covered it. I invited him to add Pakistani sources to make the article neutral, if he finds any, as my search was futile and Pakistani media does not talk about the battle. He does not come up with any Pakistani source but when I come up a highly reliable and neutral source The Cambridge history of India, Volume 6 he begins to argue the main historians whose work has been used lived in the 18th or 19th century and so publisher might have wrote the book it is unreliable. When I made him understand that S.Chand one of the largest publisher and cannot modify the book he still called the source hilarious and unreliable as some historians whose work has been used were dead long before the book was written which according to me would be an insult to the history. This was enough for me and I finally approached WP:RSN as I knew published materials from Cambridge University is reliable and just wanted to be sure. Editors and administrators there conformed that it was reliable. I think I can know proceed to make necessary changes based on the reference as I am not here to get into unimportant discussion to teach people what is a reliable source who do not want to accept and that a publisher is not an author of a book. --UplinkAnsh (talk) 07:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message; I will go ahead and unprotect it. I have also left my rationale on the talk page and will keep an eye on the article. Airplaneman ✈ 21:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on vandalism sandboxes

As someone who previously participated in the discussion to adopt policy verbiage that is being used as a rationale to delete "vandalism sandboxes", your input would be appreciated on the matter: Wikipedia talk:User pages#Userspace Vandalism Sandboxes. Gigs (talk) 15:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 AAA 400

Once I finish the article, what images can be added to the article. Jimmie Johnson won the pole position, led the most laps, and won the race. Since he accomplished it, I have no idea what images I can add to the article. Do you have any ideas? Nascar 1996 21:46, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Why don't add pictures of drivers who finished in the top five? Wayne Olajuwon chat 22:19, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good idea. Maybe a picture of Johnson's crew chief as well? Airplaneman ✈ 22:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You could get a picture of Chad Knaus as well. Wayne Olajuwon chat 22:41, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Probably will add a image of Chad Knaus in the post-race section once I complete it. Thanks for help.Nascar 1996 23:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome. Wayne Olajuwon chat 00:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Airplaneman, is this article's race summary better than the last one you looked at? The article isn't completed, but I am ahead of schedule! :) Nascar 1996 01:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) The race summary looks a lot better. Wayne Olajuwon chat 22:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I still want Airplaneman's opinion. Nascar 1996 00:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just sticking my two cents in here, but I think the Race section is very nice now! Derild 49 21 ☼ 00:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it's a different article, in which is about to go for GAN. Nascar 1996 00:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Airplaneman. You have new messages at NerdyScienceDude's talk page.
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~Nerdy Science Dude 22:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BB gun?

Did you even look at the history? Within the last fifty edits almost every other one is a revert.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Inka 888 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I did. There are helpful edits, too, and vandalism isn't frequent and is taken care of quickly. Airplaneman ✈ 01:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What I'm trying to say is it seems like a page that is regularly vandalized I don't really see how there is "not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection". --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 01:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There have only been 15 edits in the past 2 months, and 6 instances of vandalism. I will consider protection if vandalism is around a daily occurrence. Airplaneman ✈ 01:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 01:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removing wikify tags

But I'm a caveman and I'm frightened by your flying machine! Couldn't resist that. Last March I learned from some good advice you gave me about wikifying.

There's a new editor, Markiewp who's doing wikifying from eight in the morning to ten at night. Seems to be doing good work more or less. Some minor things like goes crazy with red links etc. The main problem is s/he removes the wikify tags every time even though the article is far from ready. Two thousand and counting.

People have asked him to stop removing the wikify tags, and I asked him again last night but he doesn't listen. Maybe s/he could use some guidance from a more experienced editor? Slightsmile (talk) 15:36, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

. I'm looking into it; I would be repeating suggestions that have already been given if I commented (this may be a good thing, though). Their contribs give me the sense that they're trying to clear a backlog and not doing everything they can to improve the article. Maybe I could clean up their cleanup and they can learn by example. That's how I gained clue around here. Airplaneman ✈ 23:06, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've been going into his contribs to see what I can do. I do the usual - wl, sections but it's not enough. Sometimes an article is in desperate need but I just can't get into it at the time. I've restored the the tags on six articles. Sometimes he doesn't even do anything and removes the tags. People went through a lot of work to tag these articles for attention. Slightsmile (talk) 03:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hybrid Arts

I found an article, Hybrid Arts, which appears to be a copyvio. I don't really know what to do with copyvios. Bramble claw x 01:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page deleted under WP:CSD#G12. Eeekster (talk · contribs) correctly tagged it as such with:

{{db-copyvio|url=http://www.woomza.com/inventor.htm}}

Hope this helps, Airplaneman ✈ 02:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

?

this file is also on commons and is cascaded due to it's high visibility, what is different about the featured article one; it's seen at the top of every featured article and is also is seen on tons of user boxes, and the awesome Wikipedian award and order of the mop awards. Plus is there any real reason for anyone to edit that page anyway? --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 03:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Umm... I'll ask HJ Mitchel for another opinion. Maybe I've misinterpreted the meaning of cascading protection. In any case, I'd be happy to reconsider indefinite full protection. Permalink to section is [1]. Airplaneman ✈ 22:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cascading protection is protecting any instances of page transclusion so if you protected "Bob" any transclusions of "Bob" are protected based on the protection level of "Bob". —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 3:38pm • 05:38, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I wasn't clear it basically means that wherever "Bob" is transcluded the page containing the transclusion is protected as well. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 3:41pm • 05:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked WP:CASCADING, and it says, "Cascading protection fully protects a page, and extends that full protection automatically to any page that is transcluded onto the protected page, whether directly or indirectly. This includes templates, images and other media that are hosted on English Wikipedia. Files stored on Commons will not be protected by cascading protection, and need to be temporarily uploaded to English Wikipedia or protected at Commons." So hopefully this satisfies both of you :) Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 3:48pm • 05:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After re-reading the original question and the link you provided, the paragraph of quoted text would be most helpful in your situation. In order to protect a Commons file temp upload it to Wikipedia or protect it at Commons. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 4:01pm • 06:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So as I understand it, full protecting the file with cascading prot. will full protect all pages containing the file, right? That's why I declined it in the first place. Please correct me if I'm wrong, and thanks for the help! Airplaneman ✈ 13:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's the other way around. For example, Template:In the news is cascade protected, which means that Template:ITN-Update, which is transcluded onto it, is automagically fully protected, as are the other templates and the image on there, the image protection being the purpose of the cascading protection. As for the image in question, it's been fully protected since 2009. Cascading protection wouldn't seem to be necessary. Is that what you wanted to know? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks HJ! That cleared a lot up. Inka actually requested for File:Cscr-featured with shadow.svg to be cascaded (see here); to put the definition of "cascading protection" in my own words, if I cascade-protect this file, will all pages transcluded on this file's page be full-protected as well? Airplaneman ✈ 20:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, anything that is transcluded onto Cscr-featured_with_shadow.svg will be protected but any transclusions of the file won't be, sorry about that I misread the phrase I quoted. Thank God for HJ :) Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 9:50am • 23:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FD seems to have the right idea. If you cascade protected it, the only effect it would have, aside from fully protecting the image (as it is already), would be to protect Template:PD-Open Clipart Library and Template:Pp-template, which are transcluded onto its description page. In other words, it would be more-or-less pointless and would have no effect on any page that happens to have the image transcluded onto it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK; thank you both! I'll full protect it. Airplaneman ✈ 00:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Erm... think I salted it. Oh dear… Airplaneman ✈ 00:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. O.o Creation Protection? Oh dear me... —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 10:05am • 00:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The talkback was not necessary I usually stalk a talk page if a open discussion that I'm involved in is going on. Inka⁸⁸⁸ 01:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any protection there was necessary. That file is only used on a handful of pages. File:Cscr-featured.svg is the one that's used all over the place, which I have now protected locally (already protected on Commons). /ƒETCH COMMS / 03:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is on top of every featured article. Highly visible; I have seen that image more than any other image on Wikipedia. --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 03:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not. The file I protected is used all over the place. The one you mentioned, which has a shadow, is used on only a small number of pages and is not protected on Commons. The one I protected is protected on Commons and is used all over the place, including Template:Featured article, which is at the top of every FA. The image you have seen so much did not have a shadow, and the one that you requested protection for does not need protection at all. You will be able to see a list of where a file is used if you look near the end of the file page. /ƒETCH COMMS / 01:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, ok. iMessed up on this one; unprotecting. At least I learned what cascading protection really was in this discussion. Thanks fetchcomms, Airplaneman ✈ 01:59, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see this one more :D.--Talktome^(Intelati) 03:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see this one more... Stupid vandals... Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 03:57, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see that one more as well. --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 21:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Request to undelete Groove Distribution wiki page

importance of Groove Distribution

I'd like to request you reconsider and undelete the Groove Distribution page. Groove Distribution is the largest dance music distributor/importer in North America. It has been around for 10+ years and has outlasted Watts Music, Nemesis, Studio Distribution and Syntax (the other large dance music distributors in the US). TRC still exists but no longer distributes physical music, only doing equipment. Groove Distribution was the first company to import and/or distribute in the US releases by Danger Mouse, Amy Winehouse, Corrine Bailey Rae, Zero 7, Lily Allen, Justice, and many many more. Groove Distribution manufactures and distributes worldwide a host of labels including Prescription, Mathematics, Ample Soul, the first Roots album ("Organix") on DLP and CD and the vinyl for Eighteenth Street Lounge (Thievery Corp's label) and Music For Dreams (Bliss, Banzai Republic, Kenneth Bager). Groove Distribution was the undisputed leading distributor for such dance sub-genres as acid jazz, mashups, broken beat (originally dubbed "house not house"), funky breaks, nujazz, and cosmic/space disco. In the past Groove Distribution distributed Tru Thoughts, Jazzman, G-Stoned, Far Out, Groove Distribution was one of the first (if not the first) major US distributor to sell direct to the public and open the warehouse to the general public. We decided to start a wiki page to give us a place to list all of the above information (and more) along with linking to our many labels and distributor partners worldwide. We ask you to kindly reconsider the deletion based on us not stating our importance. --Dirk <email redacted for cyber-safety purposes (to help deny spambots and the like) Airplaneman ✈ 20:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)> 184.78.78.248 (talk) 22:42, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Dirk. It looks like you have a conflict of interest because you are affiliated with the company. I will be more than happy to restore this article to User:Chuckgrove/Groove Distribution (Chuckgrove (talk · contribs) is your account, correct?) given you can meet the following conditions:

You give a claim of notability backed with multiple reliable sources (post them here and I'll give them a look if you'd like). Make sure it meets our guidelines for inclusion for companies. If it does not, I'm afraid further work would be a wasted effort, as the page will just be deleted again.
You keep a neutral point of view
You make sure the article doesn't come across as spam
And lastly, that a Conflict of interest tag must be added to the article (see Template:COI). This is just to let people know that someone from your company is a major contributor to the article.

How does that sound? Airplaneman ✈ 20:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In The Dark (JoJo song)

Considering that you're the admin who handled the deletion request. It may interest you to know that the article was part of a WP:ANI case whereby the creating user had created several such articles before. No one has yet commented on the ANI thread... perhaps you could take a look here? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 23:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Will do; I need to go, though (got stuff to do IRL). Will be back tomorrow hopefully, around this time. Thanks for letting me know! Airplaneman ✈ 23:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IGLOO

Just wondering is it better that huggle? --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 01:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)FYI, it still requires rollback. And I find huggle to be much better. Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 01:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know it requires rollback. Is it faster that Huggle? I'm asking this so when I do eventually get rollback which one is better. Is there really a difference between the two? --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 02:05, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Huggle is better (IMO) as it has more tools such as CSD capabilities, tagging, etc. However, huggle can not be used on macs and igloo is the preferred alternative. Derild 49 21 ☼ 02:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Huggle actually does work on Macs. You just have to install a bunch of programs. I use Igloo and feel that it draws short of meeting all the stuff I need it to do. Mr. R00t ^Talk 02:24, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 03:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow

I can't believe that around two months it will have been a year since we first came across each other (Yes, that IP is me, and in fact, it is still my current IP. You also welcomed it). What a difference a year makes! ~Nerdy Science Dude 03:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not to butt in or anything, but 2 weeks after that was when you first met me. Bramble claw x 03:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And six months after that you met me! [2]. Yay for memories! Derild 49 21 ☼ 19:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, if we're reminiscing, it's been 14-15 months since he met me here! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 19:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I remember when he met me about seven months ago. The first conservation was nothing to be happy about (at first), but now I'm happy that is happened, and I can laugh at it, too. :) Nascar 1996 20:23, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I met him only a couple of days ago. Ian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) 05:54, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LG GS500v

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind! Regards, Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 20:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My editor review

Hello, Airplaneman. Could you close the review. I haven't had some one to review myself for a month, and I am ready for it to be closed. Thanks. ~ Nascar 1996 22:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They're no longer officially closed (just taken off the main editor review page), but I'll wrap it in archive templates for ya :). Airplaneman ✈ 22:32, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! :) Nascar 1996 01:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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You're too fast

I thought that revert was mine.

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Airplaneman ✈ 01:19, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

America's Sexiest Girls movie starring Ron Jeremy pg you deleted

Hello, You deleted this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Sexiest_Girls

as something promotional, but its not. Perhaps it was my mistake just notating all the promo data written about the movie onto th page and I can correct it to what will meet the criteria. But it was all relevant factual data about this movie, and pertinent to the filmography and works for the director (Jennifer abbott)and actors (ron jeremy, too short, g money) involved in the project found dated in 2006. How can I correct this to have it undeleted? Thank you very much, nobelone

If you think it meets the films notability criteria, and can find multiple reliable references to back up the film's notability, I can restore this page to User:Nobelone/America's Sexiest Girls so you can work on it with less chances of it being tagged for deletion (this is called "userfication"). Notating promo data could be possible copyright infringement if you're copying directly and looks spammy; I'll help in formatting and such if you want to work on this article further. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 02:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How anyone can see that article as not promotional is beyond me. It started off "RAW!UNCENSORED!AMATEURS!WILD!", which is about as promotional as anything I've ever seen in Wikipedia. I would personally not be willing to userfy it, as I think it falls under the heading of "Material that should not be posted on user pages or subpages in the first place" (quoted from Wikipedia:Userfication#What cannot be userfied) since promotional material is not acceptable anywhere, including userspace. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... so I should not even post the revision and remove the content afterwards? BTW, I'm not seeing much reliable coverage through Google. Maybe this topic isn't fit for Wikipedia. Airplaneman ✈ 21:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

....Ron Jeremy...ew.... 23:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

I am in the copryright field this and many items do indeed exist. As I explained I simply posted the info found on amazon for the dvd, not intended for promo, but simply posted exactly in order to be accurate. This was my mistake as I did not know not to do this. I was trying to be accurate an unbiased and post the complete accurate details of the dvd, that is notabe for the up and coming directors prior works, also the rappers and ron jeremy notbles who worked on it. Its not my taste or liking but simply posting accurate data found. How can I correct and update movie details, as the other films are listed under ron jeremys filmography right on his wiki page. Thank you for your guidance in posting correctly. (ps i happen to agree on the matter of ew, but the film does exist and should be posted accurately for the involved parties of he projct as its part of their career credits) Thanks Nobelone (talk) 05:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"It's part of their career credits" is not a good reason for having the article. Wikipedia does not exist to give "credits" or to serve the careers of people. To suggest that the article should be there for that reason is to suggest that the article is wanted in order to promote their careers. Wikipedia is not a medium for promotion of anything, including people's careers. A Wikipedia article does not exist in order to serve the interests of the people mentioned in it. Also, the fact that something really does exist is not sufficient to justify an article. Does the subject satisfy Wikipedia's [{WP:NOTE|notability]] criteria? Simply existing does not guarantee that it does. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:17, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Im sorry isnt the point of wikipedia to add correct data? This was added to ron jeremy's filmography list of recent works from 2006 & now its been deleted. Then I just thought I needed to complete the page it linked to this dvd. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy Now your saying this is not allowed? Im sorry I find this confusing when you see something is missing you add it, then you guys say no? All of this started becuase I put too much info about the dvd not knowing putting exact data I found written was considered propmotional but now even though its legitiate works and data its not permitted I do not understand why? Also why its been removed from ron jeremys page when he did work on it, and hes all over the cover of the dvd? Please help me understand this doesnt make sense to me. Thank you Nobelone (talk) 18:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, the goal of Wikipedia is to add reliably sourced data, not necessarily the truth or "correct data". It must also be notable. Copying the exact words from another website is considered copyright infringement anyways. Does this help? Airplaneman ✈ 00:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Airplane man, yes I realized I made that mistake and commented back directly to mr watson. Thank you, you are very gracious and helpful in explaining things. Also, I found this link that was going to be tied into this page for the dvd, is it not possible to keep to page still and insure it does not contain copyright material this time? As I have found other third party info that sources it at well as others works I am working to add. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/America'sSexiestGirls.jpg Thank you & ps, thank you for the warm welcome cookies! Nobelone (talk) 05:34, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Triz - request for semi-protect.

Hi Airplaneman. You recently fully protected TRIZ. I'm asking if you would bring that down to semi-protection. You describe in your block message that it was a content dispute. What was actually happening was the reinsertion of large amounts of clearly unsourced, POV material by IPs (two of whom look like the same person, and it's a little suspicious that three Canadian IPs suddenly take an interest all at once, and one after the other...) who appear to have a POV themselves, and who have shown contempt for anyone pointing them to the policies which make the reinsertions bad ones. One of the IPs was blocked after 6RR. There are at least three established editors who agree that the material is highly problematic and we have tried to engage the IPs on the talk page, with little progress, although I had another go a few hours ago. I'm interested in adding at least a few RS, which is what the article singularly lacks. If proper sourcing can be shown, then perhaps the IPs will understand what the problem is with the article (it's not content, but basic principles of wikipedia sourcing). All the best, VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 03:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, sounds good. I'll do it now. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 23:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I'll start adding stuff later today. The IP editor (using a range of IPs) appears to be a very odd fish. He seems to think citing policy is anti-Semitic. He may also have a COI. I hope a week of semi-protection will be enough. VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 02:29, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! If vandalism starts up again, warn the user(s) and feel free to re-request protection. Airplaneman ✈ 02:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The October 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive has begun!

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Miss Universe 2011 Page

Hey Airplaneman Why Delete The 60th Miss Universe 2011 Page.

Hey AnnLivinova I deleted it because it was tagged for WP:CSD#G4 and I agreed. Airplaneman ✈ 21:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've always wanted one.

Does he oscillate, or is he a window mounted? HalfShadow 23:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks window-mounted :) (see Sophias minerals (talk · contribs)). Airplaneman ✈ 23:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well, at least I can shout into it and make my voice go all roboty. HalfShadow 23:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulation

Dear Airplanman, I congratulate you on becoming an administrator. I am not so familiar with the procedures so I apologize for not congratulating you before. I found out about it through some of your archives and users’ comments. Not only that you are diligent, you are a good person and I was so happy to see all the stars you have received; you deserved them all. I don’t write often, but I would like you to know that you cross my mind often and that I appreciate your help in the past very much. Please remember that even if I don’t express it in words I will always remember the good work you did and still are doing. It is obvious that other users admire you and appreciate your work, which fills me with joy. Best regards, Mountlovcen8 (talk) 02:57, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This has certainly made my day. You didn't have to do this (it isn't procedure!) but it was über-nice of you to do so! Thank you so much for dropping by. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 03:10, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive Conclusion

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks to all who participated! Several of our top editors were called away to real life concerns during the month (be careful out there, people!). This meant that once again, we did not meet all our lofty targets, but we did come close.

Stats

Out of 76 registered editors, 45 actively participated.
We nearly wiped out the 2008 articles from the backlog—there were only 13 remaining when the drive closed.
We reduced the backlog by 725 articles (11.5%), so it was another successful drive.
A total of 59 barnstars will be awarded to 40 editors—well done, and congratulations to all.

Barnstars
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Classical composition guidelines

Hi there Airplaneman! Firstly, well done in your relatively recent RfA. You're seem to be doing a great job as an admin so far! I noticed that you were down as a participant at Compositions task force and knowing how active and knowledgeable you are on the project I wanted to ask you a question. If something in a composition just an obvious fact (for example: it starts in E flat major and modulates to the dominant where the cellos come in etc) which is evident by just looking at a copy of a score, does a reference still need to be cited? Would a score reference/ bar number suffice or would one have to reference it to an analysis done by a musicologist or the like? I was thinking about improving and possibly getting the article on Beethoven's 6th to at least GA status, and in fact was also wondering whether you would be interested in helping - or perhaps you know of someone who might or where I could mention it on the project? Thanks very much for you help in advance. Jay-Sebastos (talk) 17:04, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I actually do not know exactly what to do, so I will have to do further research on the topic when I have a good chunk of time. Off the top of my head, I would think you'd cite a musical score the same as you would a book. I would certainly be interested in helping a bit with the article. I'll try answering this in more detail when I get the time. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 17:26, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... I really am not sure. I think your best bet would be to post at the task force's talk page or the help desk. I'll keep an eye out so I may learn something as well :) Airplaneman ✈ 02:40, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator

I'm ready to become an administrator right now. Wayne Olajuwon chat 19:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R'ed on your talk. Airplaneman ✈ 17:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Italic titles

I noticed that Forest of Secrets has an italic title, but cannot find how they did it. I searched the wiki-code and couldn't find the italictitle template or the displaytitle. If you could figure out where it is, that'd be great. I think we need to italicise all the book titles. ( I believe it would be Moonrise (Warriors) since we probably don't italicize disambiguators). Bramble claw x 01:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is italicized by way of Template:Infobox Book (go in there and take a look at the code; the italictitle should be on the first line!). Very clever way of doing it, IMHO. And yes, I remember reading somewhere that there has been consensus to italicize articles that are titles of books. A good link for guidelines would be MOS:TITLE. Airplaneman ✈ 17:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also just discovered {{Infobox book series}}. Maybe we need to switch Warriors (novel series) to use that one instead? Bramble claw x 17:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. We're already using that template. My bad. Bramble claw x 20:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)It already does; Template:Infobox Novel series redirects to Infobox book series :). Airplaneman ✈ 20:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason, I had to manually add the italictitle to Moonrise. Bramble claw x 20:16, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, this isn't about italic titles, but you have perfect pitch? Bramble claw x 21:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Yea :) Airplaneman ✈ 21:26, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I only post true stuff there. No lies to be found... Airplaneman ✈ 21:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

have you "always had it", or did you somehow "get" perfect pitch? Bramble claw x 21:30, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. I didn't practice it or anything, although I do have significant exposure to music everyday via my violin playing. (hey, did you know violin used to be a GA?) Airplaneman ✈ 21:34, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wish I had perfect pitch. And no, I didn't know about violin being a GA. Though piano never even passed a GA. I think Classical music project could do with some work... Bramble claw x 21:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scratch that. Violin never passed GAN either. Airplaneman ✈ 21:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) (talk page stalker) In speaking of userboxes, I did the calculator trick that was in that one userbox. When turned upside down, the answer (5,318,008) is boobies. ~Nerdy Science Dude 21:54, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I remember that one. Derild 49 21 ☼ 21:56, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I never tried. I always thought it just gave nonsense.

Bramble claw x 22:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LOL, a friend showed me that one... and then I saw the userbox :D. Airplaneman ✈ 22:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I LOVE WARRIOR CATS SO MUCH I HAVE AN IMAGINARY GUN ON LIONBLAZE'S AND DOVEPAW'S TAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:46, 4 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

Yay. Airplaneman ✈ 01:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yay another ~~too~~enthusiastic Warriors fan!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Derild4921 (talk • contribs) 02:00, 4 October 2010 (UTC) Derild 49 21 ☼ 02:06, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not TOO enthusiastic! I just love the series! They do a really excellent job! I ~~DO NOT~~ like you! Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:19, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I AM MAD AT HITLER! Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:52, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

while we're being off-topic, here, try not to go too off-topic. That last statement was totally random. Anyways, Airplaneman, I'm not sure if Mimoza Duot meets notability; I can't tell, and I probably can't judge it from a neutral pov, having watched the show. Bramble claw x 02:15, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know. I have no idea why I said that. Anyway, Hitler was trying to destroy the world. That's why I'm mad at him. Ian 04:10, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, back on italic titles. Most of the articles I read are not italicized. I don't know how to do that, though. Italicize titles, I mean. Ian 05:57, 5 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

MOS:TITLE contains relevant guidelines to which article titles should be italicized. Most articles don't need italic titles; if the majority of them did, italic titles would be set to default. Airplaneman ✈ 22:48, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Airplaneman.

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I think you need to calm down and realize that this is a encyclopedia, written by individuals that have what it takes to contribute (which is just about everyone, even you). We're glad to help you out, but you need to take a deep breath and perhaps get a feel for how things are done. My advice: accept help from everyone, not just Airplaneman, stop adding random fragments in talkpage discussions, and stuff. Once again, welcome; this is not meant to discourage you. Finally, please sign your posts with ~~~~ to produce your "signature". Happy editing, THENEWMONO 01:32, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Fine. I will. Anyway, have any good articles for Major Innovators of the US between late 1800s and early 1900s? Ian 04:14, 5 October 2010 (UTC) Hi! I just found your talk page by chance tonight. I know about the signature, and can you please tell me how to customize a talk page? I prefer not to put down pics, article or not, but I could write a good message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) 05:31, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Nice to meet you Ian! All you need to do is write a message! If you want customization using wikicode, (see Help:Wikitext and WP:UPDC for more tricks) just experiment to see what you like. You can even copy my format if you want. I just learned through trial and error, as I was a wikicode n00b when I first started editing :). If you're talking about the message that pops up when you're editing this page, see WP:EDITNOTICE. My notice is located at User talk:Airplaneman/Editnotice. The page will help you create one. Does this answer your question? Airplaneman ✈ 17:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Yes it does! Thanks. Ian.bjorn (talk) 00:04, 4 October 2010 (UTC) But It doesn't really matter. But still, thanks. So how have you been doing lately? (I mean, what are your current statistics for articles?)01:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)~ 01:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC) Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC) Ian.bjorn (talk) ~~ ~[reply] Um... I guess you could look at this and this and this and this and this and this for stats, but those don't really matter. They're just for fun. I think what really matters is if I'm enjoying myself here… and I am! How about you? Airplaneman ✈ 01:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] I have something to scream. I LOVE WARRIOR CATS SO MUCH I HAVE AN IMAGINARY GUN ON LIONBLAZE'S AND DOVEPAW'S TAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So do you like warriors? Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:53, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Yea, they're pretty awesome. Airplaneman ✈ 01:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] In my mind they won the world wars with the guns. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] And, yes. I am having fun. And I'm learning. Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:54, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] That's good! If you have any questions, just ask. Airplaneman ✈ 01:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Quiz- What song does this come from? "My insides all turned to ash so slow and blew away as I collapsed so cold" by Linkin Park And why do you think they are growing soft? I think it's that they are growing old and lazy(ish). Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)````[reply] Umm... sorry to break it to you, but see WP:MYSPACE. I have a wiki-email that I check semi-regularly where you can send more personal/un-wiki-related stuff such as this. BTW, dunno what song that is. Airplaneman ✈ 02:03, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Ah. OK. So is this a good article? Oahu before 1778 (I'm not sure if it exists) Any way, It's Valentine's Day. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] I have my own real email address, but I don't know how to get a wikiemail. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] For the sake of Airplaneman's inbox, I'm not going to tell you how at the moment. THENEWMONO 02:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Oh, come on. I'd like to do it. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] How do you turn into an admin?Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:35, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] OK. I'm going to make a page called World War 1 and the following years. Airplaneman, can you please provide support for me? Ian.bjorn (talk) 03:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] (Non-administrator comment) Wikipedia is not MySpace? Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 03:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] NO IT IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC) PS I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THAN HITLER Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] OK everybody, I would like to speak to Airplaneman, no one else. Thanks, Ian Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Anyone who replies to me on this page, forget about the talkback thing. I'm watching it. 04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC) Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Please calm down. Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 04:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] NO I WILL NOT! "I GIVE IT ALLLLLL AWAY" LINKIN PARK HARD ROCK VERSIONIan.bjorn (talk) 05:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] I feel as if I'm jealous. I hate not getting awards. Ian.bjorn (talk) 06:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC) I HATE NOT GETTING AWARDS! I ONLY GET PAPER. I WANT METAL OR A BARNSTAR OR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![reply] Airplaneman, can you please tell me how to get Wiki Email? I promise, I'll tell you the address when it is done. Ian.bjorn (talk) It's just a separate email account for Wikipedia, nothing special. Derild 49 21 ☼ 21:43, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Thanks Derild4921. Ian.bjorn (talk) 21:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Email active!Ian 21:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) ALL I NEED TO DO IS DESTROY ALL CRIMINALS AND KIDNAPPERS AND NOW I FEEL MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''' Ian 00:33, 5 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) LIONBLAZE! DOVEPAW! COME HERE TO FIRE! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, HITLER! Ian 00:38, 5 October 2010 (UTC) I have no idea why I said that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I think you need to calm down and realize that this is a encyclopedia, written by individuals that have what it takes to contribute (which is just about everyone, even you). We're glad to help you out, but you need to take a deep breath and perhaps get a feel for how things are done. My advice: accept help from everyone, not just Airplaneman, stop adding random fragments in talkpage discussions, and stuff. Once again, welcome; this is not meant to discourage you. Finally, please sign your posts with ~~~~ to produce your "signature". Happy editing, THENEWMONO 01:32, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Fine. I will. Anyway, have any good articles for Major Innovators of the US between late 1800s and early 1900s? Ian 04:14, 5 October 2010 (UTC) Hi! I just found your talk page by chance tonight. I know about the signature, and can you please tell me how to customize a talk page? I prefer not to put down pics, article or not, but I could write a good message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) 05:31, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to meet you Ian! All you need to do is write a message! If you want customization using wikicode, (see Help:Wikitext and WP:UPDC for more tricks) just experiment to see what you like. You can even copy my format if you want. I just learned through trial and error, as I was a wikicode n00b when I first started editing :). If you're talking about the message that pops up when you're editing this page, see WP:EDITNOTICE. My notice is located at User talk:Airplaneman/Editnotice. The page will help you create one. Does this answer your question? Airplaneman ✈ 17:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does! Thanks. Ian.bjorn (talk) 00:04, 4 October 2010 (UTC) But It doesn't really matter. But still, thanks. So how have you been doing lately? (I mean, what are your current statistics for articles?)01:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)~ 01:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC) Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC) Ian.bjorn (talk) ~~ ~[reply]

Um... I guess you could look at this and this and this and this and this and this for stats, but those don't really matter. They're just for fun. I think what really matters is if I'm enjoying myself here… and I am! How about you? Airplaneman ✈ 01:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have something to scream. I LOVE WARRIOR CATS SO MUCH I HAVE AN IMAGINARY GUN ON LIONBLAZE'S AND DOVEPAW'S TAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So do you like warriors? Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:53, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, they're pretty awesome. Airplaneman ✈ 01:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In my mind they won the world wars with the guns. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:01, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And, yes. I am having fun. And I'm learning. Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:54, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's good! If you have any questions, just ask. Airplaneman ✈ 01:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quiz- What song does this come from? "My insides all turned to ash so slow and blew away as I collapsed so cold" by Linkin Park And why do you think they are growing soft? I think it's that they are growing old and lazy(ish). Ian.bjorn (talk) 01:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)````[reply]

Umm... sorry to break it to you, but see WP:MYSPACE. I have a wiki-email that I check semi-regularly where you can send more personal/un-wiki-related stuff such as this. BTW, dunno what song that is. Airplaneman ✈ 02:03, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. OK. So is this a good article? Oahu before 1778 (I'm not sure if it exists) Any way, It's Valentine's Day. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have my own real email address, but I don't know how to get a wikiemail. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For the sake of Airplaneman's inbox, I'm not going to tell you how at the moment.

THENEWMONO 02:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, come on. I'd like to do it. Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do you turn into an admin?Ian.bjorn (talk) 02:35, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'm going to make a page called World War 1 and the following years. Airplaneman, can you please provide support for me? Ian.bjorn (talk) 03:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(Non-administrator comment) Wikipedia is not MySpace? Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 03:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NO IT IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC) PS I AM MORE INTELLIGENT THAN HITLER Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK everybody, I would like to speak to Airplaneman, no one else. Thanks, Ian Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone who replies to me on this page, forget about the talkback thing. I'm watching it. 04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC) Ian.bjorn (talk) 04:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please calm down. Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 04:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NO I WILL NOT! "I GIVE IT ALLLLLL AWAY" LINKIN PARK HARD ROCK VERSIONIan.bjorn (talk) 05:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I feel as if I'm jealous. I hate not getting awards. Ian.bjorn (talk) 06:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC) I HATE NOT GETTING AWARDS! I ONLY GET PAPER. I WANT METAL OR A BARNSTAR OR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![reply]

Airplaneman, can you please tell me how to get Wiki Email? I promise, I'll tell you the address when it is done. Ian.bjorn (talk)

It's just a separate email account for Wikipedia, nothing special. Derild 49 21 ☼ 21:43, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Derild4921. Ian.bjorn (talk) 21:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Email active!Ian 21:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

ALL I NEED TO DO IS DESTROY ALL CRIMINALS AND KIDNAPPERS AND NOW I FEEL MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''' Ian 00:33, 5 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

LIONBLAZE! DOVEPAW! COME HERE TO FIRE! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, HITLER! Ian 00:38, 5 October 2010 (UTC) I have no idea why I said that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

Inka 888

I and Dr.K. (talk · contribs) agree that Inka 888 is ready for the rollback permission. I will contact several people and feel free to discuss on my talk page.--Talktome^(Intelati) 20:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Late Congrats On Adminship!

Hiya, it looks like you became an admin while I was on wikibreak! It's good to see you about! Set Sail For The Seven Seas 342° 51' 30" NET 22:51, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Glad to see you around as well :), Airplaneman ✈ 22:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sierra Club

Thank you for the action you took on Sierra Club. I was trying my best to welcome and communicate with this new user/IP editor (I think it is one person). However I was having no success. Thanks again. If you have any suggestions about how I could have done better, that would be great. Is there a procedure to get quick help from an admin in a situation like this? Cullen328 (talk) 03:43, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, looks like they weren't listening. I see you'd attempted discussion here; maybe you could provide a link to the talk page next time? Also, good response here! As far as I can tell, you the right thing, and I would not have done anything hugely different. As for requesting quick admin help, try an IRC channel such as this and this (the latter I would guess has more people). Noticeboards such as RFPP where you posted usually have responses within a few hours or as quick as a minute; it really depends. Another option would be to contact an admin on their talk page (check their contributions to see if they're online). That's all I can think of right now. Nice to meet you, by the way, and happy editing :) Airplaneman ✈ 22:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The IP editor is back and I reverted once. I appreciate your detailed response and would be grateful if you could keep an eye on this. Thanks. Cullen328 (talk) 17:01, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is annoying. I consider myself involved so I won't protect it myself; I will send a message to the IP(s). If it continues, another semi-protection seems appropriate. Airplaneman ✈ 22:58, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions?

Hi Airplaneman, since you've not made any edits on the Simple English Wikipedia recently, I suppose that you've not received my message on your page. I've started editing on the Simple English Wikipedia, but as far as I know, new articles are rare on that wiki, so I need some suggestions on what to do there.

P.S. Is Huggle or Igloo better? I'm considering to revert vandalism that Cluebot misses, such as this one that I found by chance.

P.P.S. Is there any way to create links to historic articles like the one above without using the external link markup? Sorry if I've asked too much. I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 11:51, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you use Windows and feel comfortable installing something on your computer, go for Huggle. Igloo is great as well, but is still under development; I use it, but tried HG and it's more powerful as of right now. If you want to get rid of that arrow in the external link markup, use {{plainlink|url=URL HERE}}. As for suggestions, I suggest researching a topic you like and making sure you write in Simple English. Just make sure there isn't complicated grammar and there are no big words, and you should be fine. Oh, and yea, I haven't checked in there for a while. Thanks for the note, and no, you didn't ask too much :). Nice sig, BTW! Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 21:49, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but the Huggle download page says that I need rollback rights to use it, but Twinkle automatically creates a rollback button next to pages, so does that mean I have rollback rights?

P.S. I thought that Fresh2dethsts was blocked indefinitely for being a vandal-only account, but why doesn't his page or talk page have a 'blocked' template? I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 11:01, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I forgot you needed rollback for HG and GLOO! For Twinkle, the three buttons are just named "revert" - it doesn't actually utilize the rollback feature as far as I know. Since I believe you can be trusted with the revert tool, I will grant it. Please read this message (the first post in the thread) for more rollback info. Template:Rollbackgiven and Template:Rollbackgiven2 also contain good tips. Remember, when in doubt, don't use the rollback button. Undo or discuss instead! And of course, ask questions. Happy vandal-whacking, Airplaneman ✈ 23:21, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

aeroplane (djs band)

Excuse me, please can you re-instate the http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aeroplane_(djs_band)&action=edit&redlink=1

wiki link i wrote for the band aeroplane. Despite your claims they are of ambiguous notoriety, they are in fact a relatively well know band in the dance music community. Their recently released debut album will be notable in many of the end of year round ups.

Once you re-instate this i will be able to reference the claims in the article.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobinlochrie (talk • contribs) 22:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You may now find the article at User:Tobinlochrie/Aeroplane (djs band), where you can work on it without risking deletion (for the most part). WP:BAND and WP:RS are good links to look at for starters. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 23:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Talkback (Guoguo12)

Hello. You have a new message at Guoguo12's talk page. Sincerely, Guoguo12 --Talk-- 00:15, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Um, hello? How do you check Wiki email?

Editor currently blocked; when block expires, I will work with them; needless disruption hidden. THENEWMONO 02:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Uh, duh. I only know how to activate and deactivate it, not actually use it. Please, someone tell me how to check it. Ian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) 00:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Uh, whatever email you have in your preferences is what wiki-related mail is sent to. You know your password :). Enabling it only lets other users send you stuff; it doesn't create a new account for you. Airplaneman ✈ 01:17, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Oh, thanx. Here's a message. Want a cookie? Post a vid on Wiki on you playing Give It All by Rise Against on BASS. Try me. I'll do the same. i play by ear. let's see how good you do it. Ian 01:20, 5 October 2010 (UTC) ( Oh, and here's you're cookies. Ian.bjorn has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can Spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}! Ian.bjorn has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can Spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}! Ian.bjorn has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can Spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}! You deserve them. I hope you're not allergic to sweets!) Thanks! Sry, not up for the game. Uh, WP:MYSPACE? Got homework to do :/ Airplaneman ✈ 01:21, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] I have a new wiki address, because yahoo stripped my old account. Ian Oh, yeah....Sorry. On Wikimail then. Ian 02:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC) Homework help OK, this section is for people who need help with homework. Anybody have a good article for Major Innovators of the US, late 1800s, early 1900s? Ian 04:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC) YAY! I HAVE HOMEWORK HELP! That is why I love to Wiki so much. tata! Ian 04:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) WP:Do your own homework Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 04:27, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] ANi Regarding ian.bjorn (you're not in trouble) Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 05:37, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] I have only started with this talk page thing a couple of days ago, but have used Wiki for a bit. Still, that was only reading articles. I didn't pay any attention to the talk pages or whatever. Ian 05:52, 5 October 2010 (UTC) I AM LEARNING, ADMINS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

Editor currently blocked; when block expires, I will work with them; needless disruption hidden. THENEWMONO 02:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Uh, duh. I only know how to activate and deactivate it, not actually use it. Please, someone tell me how to check it. Ian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs) 00:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, whatever email you have in your preferences is what wiki-related mail is sent to. You know your password :). Enabling it only lets other users send you stuff; it doesn't create a new account for you. Airplaneman ✈ 01:17, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thanx. Here's a message. Want a cookie? Post a vid on Wiki on you playing Give It All by Rise Against on BASS. Try me. I'll do the same.

i play by ear. let's see how good you do it. Ian 01:20, 5 October 2010 (UTC) ( Oh, and here's you're cookies.

Ian.bjorn has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can Spread the "WikiLove" by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

You deserve them. I hope you're not allergic to sweets!)

Thanks! Sry, not up for the game. Uh, WP:MYSPACE? Got homework to do :/ Airplaneman ✈ 01:21, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have a new wiki address, because yahoo stripped my old account. Ian Oh, yeah....Sorry. On Wikimail then. Ian 02:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Homework help

OK, this section is for people who need help with homework. Anybody have a good article for Major Innovators of the US, late 1800s, early 1900s? Ian 04:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC) YAY! I HAVE HOMEWORK HELP! That is why I love to Wiki so much. tata! Ian 04:25, 5 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

WP:Do your own homework Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 04:27, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ANi

Regarding ian.bjorn (you're not in trouble) Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 05:37, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have only started with this talk page thing a couple of days ago, but have used Wiki for a bit. Still, that was only reading articles. I didn't pay any attention to the talk pages or whatever. Ian 05:52, 5 October 2010 (UTC) I AM LEARNING, ADMINS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian.bjorn (talk • contribs)

Protect my archives

Will you always protect my archives when my talk page gets archived? Wayne Olajuwon chat 20:20, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I ask him when I create a new one because he (probably) doesn't want to watch over you contributions. I, also, see if he is busy. If he is, I ask request it at WP:RFPP. Nascar 1996 21:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just ask! Airplaneman ✈ 22:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done October. Airplaneman ✈ 00:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Wayne Olajuwon chat 21:28, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ian ni kupata antsy ...

... Kama unaweza kuona barua pepe yetu ... I'm kutega kusubiri tu, ingawa. THENEWMONO 03:10, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pig latin, no? Give me a sec. Airplaneman ✈ 03:11, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, no... Airplaneman ✈ 03:12, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Swahili! How did I mistake this for Pig Latin?! Anyways, OK. I got your email from 11:02 EDT - is that the one you're referring to? Airplaneman ✈ 03:14, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ez dakit. izan zen pare bat minutu inguru ditu. Erabili MST, mesedez, nahiz. THENEWMONO 03:16, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it was one sentence, I got it :) Airplaneman ✈ 03:21, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. I have the translator set to English. This is exactly what he said. "Ian is getting antsy... ...As you can see our emails...I'm inclined to wait, though." If you want it, go to My Preferences, click on Gadgets, and click on the checkbox next to translator. Ian (talk) 01:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Something for you

		Military history reviewers' award
		By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your good work helping with the WikiProject's Peer and A-Class reviews for the period 1 April-30 September 2010, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award. Roger Davies ^talk 08:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply] Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste `{{WPMILHIST Review alerts}}` to your user space

Thank you, Roger Davies :). Airplaneman ✈ 22:35, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SOCKS!

I've been rollbacking a lot today, and I think I've made someone really mad, so he and most likely, his socks, are vandalizing my pages. I'm not sure how to report socks, so can you help me to do it? And can you semi-protect my main page (i.e. not the talk page) for a week or so? I'm tired of this vandal. I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 12:35, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He is called Account Number 50 and he has surprisingly numbered his socks from 1 to 10: Harry.lewis1 all the way to Harry.lewis10. I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 12:40, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... all have been blocked now (I finished it up by indefinitely blocking 9 and 10). I've also semi-protected your userpage indefinitely; if you're going to be fighting vandals, you will get hate. If you want it unlocked, just ask. To request page protections, go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. I happen to frequent that noticeboard, so if you have any questions about it, I should be able to answer them. For socks, you report them to WP:SPI. Airplaneman ✈ 22:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article that was deleted

I have reworked the article on Widen Enterprises in an effort to remove anything that might come across as advertising and promotion. Is it okay with you if I post the new article so that you can look it over and let me know if it is okay? If there is a better way to get it to you, just let me know. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!Michael Leeman (talk) 21:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I think the best thing to do would be to repost on a subpage of yours in your own userspace: User:Michael Leeman/Widen Enterprises. It can be moved into the main article space later. Make sure it contains reliable third-party sources to help back up claims of notability! Best, Airplaneman ✈ 22:37, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted the reworked article on my User:Michael Leeman/Widen Enterprises subpage. Could you possibly look it over and let me know if it's ready to be moved to the main page? Thanks.Michael Leeman (talk) 18:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A few things: you need a lead (see WP:LEDE) for the article to summarize its content before the sections. See Microsoft for a featured-status (the highest quality on Wikipedia) example of an article on a corporation. Right now, the article goes a bit heavy on the products. You could also say it goes a bit light on the history. So either expand on its history or trim the product sections. Maybe you could even put them together. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 02:32, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have reworked the article per your comments above and it is posted on my User:Michael Leeman/Widen Enterprises subpage. Can you please look it over and let me know if it's ready to be moved to the main page? Thanks for all your help, by the way.Michael Leeman (talk) 15:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty good! I have made some changes to the article, all of which can be viewed and compared through the article's history page, which is accessed via the "history" tab near the top right of your screen. One more request: anything more on the company's reception (criticism/praise)? Airplaneman ✈ 22:00, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per your request, I have added an additional paragraph to the end of the "History" section. Please let me know what you think. By the way, thank you for all your help!Michael Leeman (talk) 18:04, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Republished to Widen Enterprises! Airplaneman ✈ 18:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Thank you again for all your help. I greatly appreciate your time and expertise in helping me rework the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Leeman (talk • contribs) 17:46, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CSD T3

I don't think T3 covers a template which is in use, [3]. 134.253.26.9 (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... I always check template links before deleting, so I'm not sure what happened. Anyhow, thanks for the note; I think I've gotten all of them. Airplaneman ✈ 02:27, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wolfgang Santner

could you please advise why you deleted Wolfgang Santner? I just tried to provide all the sources that allowed me to create the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirdan85 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It sounded like spam and was tagged for deletion as such (per WP:G11). I agreed, so I went ahead with the deletion. If you would like, I can restore it to a user subpage of yours (User:Sirdan85/Wolfgang Santner) where you can work on adding more reliable third-party sources to back up the claims as well as including more than just his accomplishments (family, etc.) It is a biography, after all, not a resume. How does that sound? Airplaneman ✈ 02:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

could you please do so... i will then add all the rest to it. resources etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirdan85 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done - if you have any questions, just ask. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 03:28, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

so if I now make the necessary changes and provide links for sources can it go online then again ? thanks for the help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirdan85 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC) could you please check if the edits meet your criteria. how do I get this page back online ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirdan85 (talk • contribs) 21:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC) could you please advice how i can get this back online ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirdan85 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 15 October 2010 (UTC) please advice how i can get this site back online —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirdan85 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

huh

Just wondering why did you skip over my request for page protection? --Inka⁸⁸⁸Come yell at me! 03:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Am I obligated to go in order? Sometimes I need time to think. Airplaneman ✈ 03:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I was just curious. --Inka⁸⁸⁸Come yell at me! 03:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Defending America for Knowledge and Action

This article is about the 501c3 nonprofit DAFKA, Defending America for KNowledge and Action. While Lee Kaplan is the Executive Director of DAFKA and he did sue (and won a judgment) against Yaman Salahi, a student at UC Berkeley in a case of defamation and tortious business interference, Salahi or a friend has turned the Corporation's Wiki into a whine about how he should not have lost the law suit that has nothing to do with the corporation DAFKA, only his personal dispute with Kaplan. There are two references to articles by Salahi after the lawsuit in which he whines his free speech rights were abridged (they were not as the judge saw no free speech violations and the Lee Kaplan Watch blog was turned over to Kaplan so today it is Lee Kaplan's Blog (see City Media Law Project Kaplan vs. Salahi). There is as much written about Salahi as there is about DAFKA, recent changes to the Wiki page and as mentioned DAFKA is a non-profit corporation. Salahi did not sue DAFKA and entries referring to him do not belong there. In addition, rather than providing information, the site has become a diatribe for Yaman Salahi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.8.116 (talk) 03:44, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK; just remember to use an edit summary to explain your edits so clueless people like me don't get confused ;). Airplaneman ✈ 03:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for deleting that page! I normally wouldn't go around following up on my deletion requests... but it's you! Anyway, thanks for deleting it like a G6. =P Netalarm^talk 04:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :). Also, I love how there are so many top songs that give references to airplanes :D. Airplaneman ✈ 04:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Opendocman

Did you take a look at the user page of the person who created the article -- the article is still listed on that page and the only two mainspace edits were to the Opendocman. -- and the hosting cost $11 a month, although that wasn't mentioned. That's when I decided to speedy it and not put it up for deletion. (That doesn't include the popularity as defined by 9,000 google hits and the two in-text links that were links to the product that I had already removed) Anyways, I'll put it up for deletion now XinJeisan (talk) 04:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- No, I didn't. It may violate WP:FAKEARTICLE anyways. The article itself did not look like blatant spam, but is indeed spammy. I think I'll go with delete in the AfD, though. Airplaneman ✈ 04:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Endorsing your PROD... Airplaneman ✈ 04:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - I didn't think it was spam at first either -- that's why I attempted to edit it first.... :) XinJeisan (talk) 04:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Also, make sure to substitute the template as instructed at Template:Prod so that the timer may begin. Airplaneman ✈ 04:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        I think you did that with your fix right? Thanks! if so.. XinJeisan (talk) 04:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Yes, I substituted it. Airplaneman ✈ 19:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

deleted "Jin Zhuo"

Dear Airplaneman, you speedily deleted ‎"Jin Zhuo" article (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject). Please advise me on what I should have done differently to do it right on the first attempt.

Background: Jin Zhuo was a 3rd c. AD scholar and commentator to whom researchers frequently turn to when they need to find out what the Chinese annals are talking about specifically. We do have on WP an article on 24 Chinese annals [4] which explains the Chinese annalitic system, a number of them recorded the events of the 3rd-4th cc., and Jin Zhuo is one of the ancient historians whose works complement the respective annals. About his prominence testifues that Googling "Jin Zhuo 晉灼" gives 10,400 returns as of right now. Without a WP article, the WP links to Jin Zhuo remain redlinks, and that was my primary motive on creating the article. I also listed two works that contain further scientific bibliography. As I understand, not much is known of him personnaly, but his works are cited by ancient and modern scholars, and in many cases we have his citations only from the works of the Chinese classical historians. I think and hope that retaining a skeleton article on him in WP would allow Chinese editors to enrich the article with additional essential information. Please give them a chance, this is important part of their heritage.

If my explanations does not satisfy you, please advise me on what needs to be done, and move it into my user's userspace. Regards, Barefact (talk) 15:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I deleted the article because it did not claim notability. In this post here, you have established his notability (e.g. "his works are cited by ancient and modern scholars, and in many cases we have his citations only from the works of the Chinese classical historians") I am willing to restore the article if you expand it a bit with at least some of the info you have given above (with refs of course). As it stood, the article was a one-sentence page just stating who Zhuo was. How does this sound? Airplaneman ✈ 20:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds wonderful. Please allow me 24 hrs to edit it, and let me know when it is available for editing Barefact (talk) 00:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright; User:Barefact/Jin Zhuo should be bluelinked in a bit. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 00:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please have a look at the revision User:Barefact/Jin Zhuo, and move it back if now it looks right. I would not bother you, but I do not know the technique how to move it with proper history. Neither do I know how to remove it from my page. Thank you, Barefact (talk) 14:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good! I've cleaned it up and moved it into the mainspace, without a redirect. Airplaneman ✈ 16:59, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Subpage

Hello, I've heard you are a moderator and I was wondering if you could delete my subpage: User:Glimmer721/Dandelion Fire. Thank you. --Glimmer721 ^talk 19:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not a moderator; I'm an administrator. Although that's arguing about semantics, the two words do mean different things. And yes, I will go ahead with the delete. Have you seen my post on PrincessofLlyr's talk page? Airplaneman ✈ 19:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		You just keep beating me with Igloo! Nice job! Mr. R00t ^Talk 20:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! :) Airplaneman ✈ 20:56, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sanjivani Solutions

Thanks for the re-deletion. That's the first time my CSD using Twinkle has actually recreated the article by accident. Unfortunate timing. I felt quite embarrassed by the slip-up. Fæ (talk) 21:30, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem; it was not your fault. I had first deleted the article without it having a CSD tag prior to the deletion because it was extremely blatant advertising (as you'll remember). Usually if I come across an article that I believe deserves speedy deletion, I just tag it for another admin to review. Please don't feel embarrassed! :) Best, Airplaneman ✈ 21:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

deletion of bobby barr

Why have you rejected this deletion?

I have been told on numerous occasions that unless a player within Scotland has played a league or cup game whilst contracted to a club in the SPL or First Division that they cannot be included in Wikipedia.

Salty1984 (talk) 23:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I declined this due to a claim of notability existing in the article. I think Afd or PROD would be better suited for this article. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 00:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: User:Alexytor

I have moved several welcome messages from the userpage to the usertalkpage and tagged the resulting redirect as G6. For those whose welcome templates were already moved to the talkpage before I did, their userpages were tagged as G6 as well. If you encounter more speedy deletion G6s, in userpages, that'd probably be me. :| TelCo NaSp Ve :| 05:07, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and sorry if there was any misunderstanding. I was simply patrolling the back of the Wikipedia. :| TelCo NaSp Ve :| 05:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which backlog is this? (just curious) This could use your help as well (many of these pages need cleanup!) :). Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 05:18, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Power Slave/STITHP

(copied from User talk:Cunard)

Hello Cunard, I've declined your G6 nomination of User:Power Slave/STITHP because the deletion discussion you linked as a G6 qualifier did not mention this page. The discussion this page is listed at is still ongoing (see here). If I've missed something, please let me know. Otherwise, I think we can wait a week longer before taking action on this page. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 05:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged this page for deletion per the consensus at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Power Slave/Hidden Barnstar. I initiated an MfD for this page when I didn't know that I had already created one that was closed as delete. I believe that deletion would be uncontroversial per the consensus at the previous MfD. What is your opinion about this? Cunard (talk) 05:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... I don't have a strong opinion on whether it should be deleted. Since the page wasn't explicitly mentioned in the above linked discussion, I'm inclined to just wait another week, just to be safe. I can see where you are coming from with the G6 tagging, though. Airplaneman ✈ 05:21, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I don't mind letting the discussion run for another week. Cunard (talk) 05:23, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hey Airplaneman, if a sports event begins in less than two hours, and pre-race events are underway; wouldn't it be a current sport event, such as 2010 Pepsi Max 400? Nascar 1996 17:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would guess so. Airplaneman ✈ 17:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

People keep reverting it on the article I listed above, but I have done this for the past five races. I don't know why they though it was needed to be removed. Oh well. Nascar 1996 18:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another one, will you delete User:Nascar1996/mysignature? I didn't know that it was forbidden to put it in your preferences like {{User:Nascar1996/mysignature}}. Nascar 1996 02:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Airplaneman ✈ 02:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Nascar 1996 02:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

		The Admin's Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Airplaneman for his excellent work with the mop. Keep it up! ~Nerdy Science Dude 22:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm here, thank you for semi-protecting my archives. I appreciate it. ~Nerdy Science Dude 22:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, and thanks! :D Airplaneman ✈ 22:33, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An update from adopt a user

Hi there Airplaneman! You may be wondering, what have I done to sound the alarm this time? Nothing. I'm messaging you in regards to the adopt-a-user program, which currently has a backlog of users wishing to be adopted. This doesn't make much sense, as we have a considerable list of users offer adoption, so there shouldn't be any backlog. I've begun to eliminate this backlog myself through a matching program, but I need your help to make it work. Of course, adoptees and adopters don't have to go through there, but I believe it helps eliminate the backlog because someone is actively matching pairs.

On the list of adopters, I have modified the middle column to say "Interests." It's easier working with other users that have similar interests, so if it's not too much to ask, could you add your interests in the middle column? For example, if I was interested in hurricanes, computers, business, and ... reptiles? I would place those in the middle column. Counter-vandalism and the like can also be included (maintenance should be used as the general term). The more interests, the better, since adoptees can learn more about you and choose the one they feel most comfortable working with. The information about when you're most active and other stuff can go into the "Notes" section to the right.

Finally, I've gone around and asked adoptees (and will in the future) to fill in a short survey so adopters can take the initiative and contact users they feel comfortable working with. We all know that most adoptees just place the adopt me template on their user page and leave it - so it's up to us to approach them and offer adoption. So, please take a look at the survey, adopt those that fit your interests, and maybe watchlist it so you can see the interests of adoptees and adopt one that fits your interests in the future.

Once again, thank you for participating in the adopt-a-user program! If you wish to respond to this post, please message me on my talk page.

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Could you please explain...

You may explain what the reason for that template on my page would be? I did not created the attack page. IQinn (talk) 02:36, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hits head on desk*Erm... meant to leave it at the creator's page. No wonder I didn't see a template on the talk page I checked... Sorry! Feel free to remove it entirely; I will strike through it for now. Airplaneman ✈ 04:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. :) IQinn (talk) 04:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"*Hits head on desk*" Oh, hahaha! What a wakeup call. Ian (talk) 19:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Haha that was unnecessary, Ian. You don't know how people may take this. I honestly don't mind if you post stuff like this on my talk page (and am not offended the least bit), but others may see it as you laughing at their honest mistakes (not in a good way). Please be careful! (BTW, yea, I was sleepy when this happened :D) Airplaneman ✈ 21:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. It had woken me up. I'd been only just woken up, so yeah, it woke me up. Ian (talk) 06:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Simple WP

I haven't seen you on simple recently, so thought I'd drop a note here telling you that TLT got promoted! PrincessofLlyr ^{royal court} 13:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

YAY! Airplaneman ✈ 21:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No Rest for the Wicked FAC

Hello. You participated in a recent FAC for No Rest for the Wicked (Supernatural). The article has since been renominated here. Thanks. Ω phois 19:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will keep an eye on it; thanks for the note. Airplaneman ✈ 21:16, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Despenser wars

Can you please undelete Despenser wars and its talk page. I suspect i nominated it for speedy delete in bad faith cheers. --Guerillero | My Talk 23:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Airplaneman ✈ 23:59, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

And again (last time I asked Royalbroil) IP are adding unofficial crap to the article. Royalbroil semiprotected it a while back, and now they are doing the same as before. I should know when they update them, I look at the web sites for every track to review them. I'm wondering if it could be semi-protected untill February 1, 2011, when most of the sponsors WILL BE announced. Nascar 1996 00:53, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at The Big One (NASCAR). Nascar 1996 19:13, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think the article is needed? Nascar 1996 01:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Royalbroil delt with the the article, so what do you think about protecting the NASCAR season? Nascar 1996 16:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't get to this. I would consider inserting hidden comments to warn oblivious editors, and also warning them on their talk pages. If that doesn't work, yes, protection until 2/2011 would be appropriate. Airplaneman ✈ 16:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be different people every time. Nascar 1996 16:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's why hidden comments should help; warnings couldn't hurt, either. Airplaneman ✈ 18:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I already had one hidden comment before the team table, and I added one before the schedule just a couple of minutes ago. So the hidden comment didn't help that much. I probably will begin warning the users. Nascar 1996 18:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

For your information

I'd appreciate your input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels#A new direction. Cheers. sonia♫ 03:07, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please reconsider your deletion of NJ division of criminal justice article. The division is the chief law enforcement agency in NJ and should be represented in wikipeadia173.61.102.254 (talk) 11:59, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Escalante Petrified Forest State Park

Hello, My name is Brad Adkins and I work for Utah State Parks. Escalante Petrified Forest State Park is one of the parks we manage. You have deleted the page I created for this park because of a copyright infringement. Copyright infringement is impossible for two reasons: 1) Utah State Parks does not copyright it's information. 2) The page you are citing, the one we're supposedly infringing upon, is in fact, getting it's information directly from our official website. (refer back to reason #1)

Please respond back to me and let me know that you've re-instated the page I created. Thank you. Brad Adkins Utah State Parks bradadkins@utah.gov bradadkins274@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradadkins274 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just forwarded an email from the Utah State Parks Administrative office to permissions-commons AT wikimedia DOT org and to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org. The email explicitly gives permission to use any/all information obtained on the Utah State Parks website (http://stateparks.utah.gov) for any/all Wikipedia uses. Please reinstate the Escalante Petrified Forest State Park page that I created. It cannot be copyright infringement from the website you cited(http://www.scenicsouthernutah.com/recreation_areas/escalante_petrified_forest.shtml), because the website you cited got the information from OUR non-copyrighted website. Thank you for restoring this page. Brad Adkins Utah State Parks Bradadkins274 (talk) 20:30, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know when it is approved, and I will restore the article ASAP. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 05:02, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I just read this, and I will restore the page now. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 04:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About Jan Šebek

Some months ago, someone created an article about Conor Clifford, and then someone deleted it because he hasn't made his official debut. So, why Jan Šebek, Sam Walker, Jacopo Sala, Aliu Djaló and Jhon Pírez have to have their own articles if they haven't made their official debut in any team? Now, another thing happens, the four first articles that I said violate the copyright rules, as you can see in this links: Jan Sebek, Sam Walker, Jacopo Sala, Aliu Djaló. I'll be waiting for your answer. Archibald Leitch (talk) 19:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why. Airplaneman ✈ 23:23, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Šebek's article in its current state (the most recent revision as of the timestamp at the end of this post) does not seem to violate copyright rules. (see here for the removal). Remember that WP:G11 applies only if there is no content worth saving. Also, this edit summary was not a good one. I think you know why.
Same with Sam Walker (removal)
Same with Aliu Djaló (removal)
I have deleted Jacopo Sala under WP:G4.
Airplaneman ✈ 23:35, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World Games/all time medal table

A tag has been placed on World Games/all time medal table, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from an implausible typo.

Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you believe that there is a reason to keep the redirect, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 09:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually how did that page even get created? Curious... ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 09:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I moved it to a more suitable name back in March and never requested deletion per WP:R3. Thanks for cleaning up. Airplaneman ✈ 22:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A pleasure. I got a shock then when I thought the medal table was hosted on an article subpage. But all's good now :) ANG CHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 00:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your input is requested

I have started an RfC on inappropriate userboxes, i.e. those that don't follow the introductory paragraph at WP:UBX:

"A userbox (commonly abbreviated as UBX) is a small colored box ... designed to appear only on a Wikipedian's user page as a communicative notice about the user, in order to directly (or even indirectly) help Wikipedians collaborate more effectively on articles."

How does a userbox about a user's own preferences in regards to what topics on Wikipedia they hate and what type of sexually explicit material they like and actively view help Wikipedians collaborate with one another? Which is the question I am raising.

This introductory paragraph over at WP:UBX contradicts WP:NOTCENSORED so I'd like you to weigh in at WT:UBX, it'll only take 5 minutes of your time. I've sent this message because the topic has not had much community input

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 20:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]

OK So let's look at a real sockpuppet creator's page.

User talk:Zbl I suggest you look at the section unblock and look at my suggestion for that VANDAL. Ian (talk) 00:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... note that the user was blocked over three and a half years ago, so they have probably moved on and won't see your post. Please don't condone socking; it's wrong. I see you're mostly dabbling around in talk pages; maybe try focusing on some article writing or vandal whacking (WP:TWINKLE is an awesome script for all kinds of things including vandal whacking that would be good to install if you haven't yet). Next, patrol recent changes for vandalism (WP:LUPIN helps you find the vandalistic edits) and if you find bad ones, either fix them by cleaning them up, or if it is obvious vandalism, undo them and use twinkle to give the appropriate warning (usually start at level one and then go to two, etc.) WP:RCP is a helpful page, and Mono is a knowledgable user with vandal-fighting experience; ask him if you have any questions. Airplaneman ✈ 04:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or feel free to ask me if mono's not responding- I have a very differnet login pattern than Mono does. Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 04:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So does that mean that he's now banned? Just wondering....Ian (talk) 04:52, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, just blocked. There is a difference (see WP:BLOCK and WP:BAN respectively). Block just means the editor's ability to edit has been taken away. A ban means that a user is not allowed to edit, and it is usually enforced with a block. Airplaneman ✈ 13:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mac issues

Hi, I have two quick questions:

Are you still using Hiuggle on Mac, and is it reliable and worth the hassle downloading and installing it? (I use 10.6.4 on a variety of new and not so new machines).
Do you have any idea why New Page Patroller script has suddely stopped functioning 3 days ago?

I'm getting no response from talk or support pages. BTW, Magic Trakpad is an awesome piece of equipment. Wouldn't be wihout it. --Kudpung (talk) 01:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kudpung! I did not have a good experience for Huggle on the Mac. I assume you've seen Wikipedia:Huggle/Wine. Installation was complicated; you have to download Wine and run some commands in the Terminal, but I was ultimately successful in installing Huggle (took a while). Based on my own experience, I would not recommend downloading it. It was slow and choppy and not worth the effort of installation. As of late, I have read on other talk pages that IRC, where Huggle retrieves the recent changes feed, is down a lot. I would recommend Igloo, the next best thing, which is still under development and improving with every update. A good thing about that program is that it is entirely web-based so you don't need to install anything (except a browser).

As for the NPP script (User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js), I'm not sure. It's working for me in Vector. Did you clear your cache? I have no idea whether that will help or not, but it's worth a shot.

Wish I had the Magic Trackpad, but I can't really justify the purchase, as I have a MacBook Pro with a smaller version of it built in. It is indeed a phenomenal touchpad which makes other computers' feel clunky; I would also struggle without it (or a decent optical mouse). Hope this helps, Airplaneman ✈ 04:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the rapid response. I actually have a large array of various Macs all round me (and quite a collection back home in France dating from 1989!) and I use Teleport to operate them all from just one keyboard and mouse. I could never get Igloo to work either. Perhaps I should try deleting and reinstalling safari. if you 'be got any more ideas, do let me know. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 06:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah - Igloo doesn't officially work on Safari, I don't think (at least not yet). There is a work-around, but you could also try it on a compatible browser (the native browser for igloo is Firefox, although it works fine in Chrome as well). Airplaneman ✈ 20:09, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)I can Personally attest to that above statement. :)--Talktome^(Intelati) 20:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's a hack for igloo + safari, if you really want it. THENEWMONO™ 21:17, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate your offer of help.

Airplaneman, I appreciate your offer of help. Thank you. Thank you for the welcome. Let me know if I can help in any way, or if you think I can improve my style.

Kind Regards Larry Reuben

--LarryReuben (talk) 08:02, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a reference for the future, but you're supposed to put the {{helpme}} on your own user talk page, Larry. And I've responded to your queries. —Dark 08:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, DarkFalls :) Airplaneman ✈ 15:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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50Listed.com: Deleted!

Hi!

I was creating an article and was not able to add the hangon tag before it was deleted. I would like to reattempt the article titled 50Listed. Would this be okay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curtislee28 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi; sorry for the late response. I'm sorry to say that it doesn't look like 50Listed meets our notability criteria for companies. Additionally, you seem to be the founder of the company, which is a conflict of interest. Please don't take this personally, but I don't think the 50Listed article will last very long if you try to create it a third time. Please ask if you have any further questions. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 23:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

The Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invites you to participate in the November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 November at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 November at 23:59 (UTC). The goal for this drive is to reduce the backlog by 10% (approximately 500 articles). We hope to focus our efforts on the oldest three months (January, February, and March 2009) and the newest three months (September, October, and November 2010) of articles in the queue.

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ducret school deletion

hello, you've deleted the ducret school of art page. I'm sure your reasons are valid, but the the ducret school's long history, the fact that it's the only private art school left in NJ and the number of legitimate artists, some of whom have hung in the national gallery might- dont you think, give some value to having a ducret page on wikipedia? Please reconsider. if there is some language we should be using that's less self-serving, I'm all ears.

best regards, 98.221.227.19 (talk) 02:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I assume you are Paulelwood (talk · contribs), correct? Yes, I deleted the page because it was, as you aptly put it, self-serving. The school does have some coverage so creating an article on it would be fine. What I suggest would be creating a reliably-sourced (numerous third-party sources) article in a user subpage of yours so you can nurture it before it is moved to the article space (sorry if I'm confusing you; see Wikipedia:Namespace for more information). The page's title could be User:Paulelwood/Ducret School. Write it as you would any article, and I can help you adjust it before it's published. How does that sound? Airplaneman ✈ 00:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: You seem to be associated with the school, which is a possible conflict of interest (as noted on your talk page). Please be careful. Airplaneman ✈ 00:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HomeVestors

I find it odd that the creator claims that he has no connection to the company even though his username suggest he does. In any case this isn't an A7 candidate per the phrase is the largest homebuyer in the United States. I have actually seen the "we buy ugly houses" commercial here locally. Recommend AFD for this. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen the ads too, and I think I might actually know an executive in the company. Still, some editors want to write about a topic and choose the name of their article as their username, as usually it's a WP:SPA. THEMONO™ 04:28, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll mull this over and dig deeper. At first glance, the company may meet WP:CORP. I will softbock the account, however, per the username policy. Airplaneman ✈ 22:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Igor Ivanov Izi

When a page asserts awards, it's worth checking for references before placing a BLP prod. Whether he's actually notable, I can;t say. DGG ( talk ) 06:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that'd be a good idea. I'll keep this in mind for next time. Airplaneman ✈ 22:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Currently writing a new page

Hi, Airplaneman. I'm making a new page here, and since you've created several articles, could you take a look at the draft every now and then to make sure I'm on the right track? I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 13:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Was about to delete the page when you removed the tag... Airplaneman ✈ 14:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is an interesting topic and overall a pretty good start. I have made some revisions (visible here) with edit summaries explaining why I made the changes. As always, please ask if you have questions about the edit summaries. One important aspect that is missing is that there is no mention on why this topic is notable and fit for inclusion on Wikipedia. You need to make a claim of notability that is backed up by a reliable reference. As this is a product, also make sure the content isn't inadvertently advert-like. I know this is a lot, but this will ensure that you have a solid article more than ready for publication into the mainspace. Airplaneman ✈ 22:38, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Email

Please email me. I need some support. Ian (talk) 21:05, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've emailed you. Ian (talk) 21:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done, and done. Ian (talk) 23:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ghana Empire

Dear Airplaneman,

Thank you for your message dated 8/9/2010, I only accessed it recently as I had a hiatus from Wikipedia. Re: Ghana Empire, you need to be aware that I'm am of the ancient royal tribes of both The Ancient Ghanaian empire (aka Ouagadougou (french spelling) Wagadugu (English British spelling) and Morocco. Hence my making contributions to the aforementioned page. All too often the Oral traditions of indigenous Africans are disregarded, in favor of international Academic or other verifiable sources.

I would like to thank you and take you up your invitation, to discuss this extensive subject in more detail.

Your quote: "There is very little evidence and that convoluted, that there is any real historical connection between the two".

I respectfully disagree. I added considerable Academic references to the page (see references), which substantiated the contributions made. Please bear in mind we are talking about a living breathing culture and history, of which many (myself included) are proud of.

Our King HM Mohammed VI of Morocco never speaks in public about Morocco's connection with the indigenous culture (Imazighen). Oficcially they are a minority in Morocco. In adition Article 3 of the 1956 edition of our constitution calls us Arabs and Arabophones. In fact 90% of the population are of Amazigh aka Saharan descent (and in certain cases of Mixed Amazigh and exo-African Heritage), whilst 10% are of pure Arab descent. see: Ennaji. M (2007) Multi-Lingualism, Cultural Identity and Education in Morocco, Springer, NY, USA.

Moreover this fact amongst others was suppressed by the former King (the reasons for this well known action (inside africa and diplomatic circles) I would also like to discuss indepth. This lack of knowledge, paved the way for a totalitarian regime to launched military attacks against the riff and Soussi and Western saharans (also of the Soussi and Gnaoua), whilst creating policies of discrimination against our North West and West African Neighbors.

Many Imazighen are fair in complexion because of the pillaging (on account of the Romans, vandals, phoenicians and arabs). Hence in chelha they are called Batoura (Mixed Amazigh and exo-African Heritage). see: Hart, D.M. (2000) Tribe and Society in Rural Morocco, Frank Cass Publishers, USA. The originally are darker in complexion because morocco's history (from tribal and moroccan academic accounts) began when they lived in the Sahara, migrated to the Souus valley and eventually settled in Marrakech (Chelha to mean land of God).

Books (These are some of the references I submitted)

[Bernasek, L & Burger, H. S. (2008) Imazighen!: Beauty and Artisanship in Berber Life, Peabody Museum Press]
[Courtney-Clarke, M & Brooks, G. (1996) Imazighen: The Vanishing Traditions of Berber Women, Thames & Hudson Ltd, London, U.K]
[El-Ghissassi, H. (2006) Regard sur Le Laroc de Mohamed VI, Michel Lafon]
[Ennaji, M (2005) Multilingualism, Cultural Identity and Education in Morocco, Springer, New York, USA]
[Harris, W. (2003) Morocco that Was, Eland Books, London, U.K]
[Hart, D.M. (2000) Tribe and Society in Rural Morocco, Frank Cass Publishers]
[Howe, M (2005) Morocco: The Islamist Awakening and Other Challenges, University of Oxford Press, New York, USA]
[Hoffman, K.E. (2008) We Share Walls: Language, Land, and Gender in Berber Morocco, Wiley-Blackwell]
[Maxwell, G (2000) Lords of the Atlas, Weindenfeld Nicholson Illustrated]
[Maxwell, G (2002) Lords of the Atlas: The Rise and Fall of the House of Glaoua 1893–1956, The Lyons Press]
[McKissack, F. & McKissack, P. (1995)The Royal Kingdoms of Ghana, Mali, and Songhay: Life in Medieval Africa, Henry Holt and Co. LLC]
[Pennell, C.R. (2003) Morocco: From Empire to Independence, OneWorld Publications]
[Pennel, C.R. (2001) Morocco since 1830: A History, NYU Press, USA]
[Porch, D (1983) The Conquest of Morocco - The Bizarre History of France's Last Great Colonial Adventure, the Long Struggle to Subdue a Medieval Kingdom By Intrigue and Force of Arms 1903-1914, Knopf]
[Porch, D, 2nd Ed (2005) The Conquest of the Sahara, Ferrar, Straus & Giroux]
[Rogerson, B & Lavington, S Edited by (2004) Marrakech, The Red City: The City through Writers' Eyes, Sickle Moon Books]

Journals and other sources can also be provided (this forms less than 1% of my dissertation (American consisting of 30,000 words or more), which was more than 10 years in the making) .

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards,

Abdel Noor (Abdel Noor (talk) 00:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

Hello Abdel,

I just wanted to clarify that I did not make the post you are responding to, hence my initial confusion upon receiving your message. I only posted the welcome message, and have figured out that the post was made by Beepsie (talk · contribs), as can be seen here. I have moved the section accordingly on your talk page to clarify. I have also formatted the list of references you gave into a bullet format so they can be read easier. Since I have no background knowledge on the subject you are editing, I can primarily offer general editing tips and not tips on specific content. Part of your post here that stood out to me was All too often the Oral traditions of indigenous Africans are disregarded, in favor of international Academic or other verifiable sources. I'm afraid that oral and indigenous traditions will continue to be underrepresented until verifiable sources are found; it looks like you are providing quite a few above, however (yay!) I know this most likely does not fully address your concerns, but I hope it scratches the surface. I have notified Beepsie about this conversation and we'll see what they have to add. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 00:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hey can you fix the single

i noticed on the article "Move That Body" you made it where there can be no more edits. but the song has not internationaly charted. So it is now legit to make the single an official article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.135.8 (talk) 00:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... so it hasn't internationally charted? Oh, and you're referring to Move That Body (Nelly song), correct? I am hesitant about unprotecting it until it clearly meets the notability standards at WP:NSONG. Airplaneman ✈ 01:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The standard format we use for non-charting singles is extensive coverage from reliable sources. This doesn't really have that. It is not notable until critics and magazine start speaking about it and/or until the artist begins promoting it. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 17:14, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Having a cover or date alone is not notable. We can have that kind of info about dates on the album's page. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 17:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response, Lil-unique. I will hold off with unprotection for the time being. Airplaneman ✈ 14:23, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Bartlett Drummer page deletion

Hi there Airplaneman, I'm wondering if you could help me. I have been trying to write an article about Kevin Bartlett the English drummer, however it keeps getting deleted under the rule that the article does not signify the importance of the individual. My article clearly shows that Mr Bartlett is a recording artist and although may not be mainstream he is notable. His Band Eumeria will be releasing their debut album in the spring of 2011 backed by a major record label. We are trying to get things up and running before then for people who may want to find out a little bit more information.

If you could offer some guidance as to what to do I would really appreciate it.

Many thanks Bartldrum (talk) 01:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be blunt, but I don't think your (looks like you have a possible conflict of interest with Mr. Bartlett) article will survive for very long if you recreated it for the same reason it has been deleted in the past. If he achieves success once his album is released next year, you could try writing it again, but yea, I'm sorry to say that I don't think his article will last if it is recreated. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 02:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. If you want to take the time, please list ten or more reliable sources that back up the claims of notability you have made. If you can't find any (or they're deemed unreliable) then I think you should definitely hold off with the article's creation. Airplaneman ✈ 02:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck

Hi, Airplaneman. Good luck on your WikiBreak. Ian (talk) 06:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All done! Ian (talk) 06:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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deletion TRANSMEDIA ACTIVISM

Hi Just had a Google alert on transmedia and (as I'm an expert in the field) I was keen to see if I'd meet any new activists via the new Wiki page. But hey, presto! the page is gone. What's the competence criteria for deleting such a page? This is a burgeoning media field, with implications for readers keen to know more about social media strategy to narrative fractals. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.181.136 (talk) 15:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transmedia Activism; after the deletion discussion began, the author requested deletion, so I speedily deleted it. I don't think the Wikipedia page is the best place to meet new activists; it's supposed to be an encyclopedic entry. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 20:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation to Latin Liagtures

Actually, I can explain vvhy there is a reason to redirect.

1) British spell the vvord "Negro" as "Negroe" (hence the oe is converted to a Latin ligature: "œ".) ^[1]

2) The vvord from "Novus ordo sæclorum" is genitive plural, vvhich is vvritten as seclorum on the dollar bill. SÆCLORUM (includes the Latin ligature "æ") is the etymological origin of seclorum. Is is almost the same as the simplifiation of the British English spelling of "mediæval" into American Englis spelling of "medieval".^[2] via http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/saeclorum

序名三「Jyonasan」 ^Talk_Stalk 21:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't get how they'd be useful, though. For instance, "Negroe"≠"Negrœ". Airplaneman ✈ 01:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Identification Technology Partners, Inc.

Wondering about the reasoning behind the speedy deletion. I never noticed a nom for deletion or chance to defend the article. I was planning on contributing by adding verifiable sources. The company is a key player in the biometrics industry and has developed independent technology that benefits the government's PIV initiative. Thanks! Cmcginni (talk) 03:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it under WP:A7 after someone tagged it. I've restored it to User:Cmcginni/Identification Technology Partners, Inc. for you to work on. If you have any questions, just ask. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 03:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I contacted some editors to add information so that the page meets the WP:A7 requirements. The logo also now has a Non-free use rationale. All changes were made at User:Cmcginni/Identification Technology Partners, Inc. Is the article able to be restored now? Thanks for your help! Cmcginni (talk) 15:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CSD

Thank you for your comments and suggestions. I will make sure to leave the notifications! jsfouche (talk) 04:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem; if you need anything, just ask :). Airplaneman ✈ 04:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mainpage

Robert Falcon Scott is on the mainpage-- I'm not going to look up the guideline, but you're not supposed to protect it except in extremely rare circumstances. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Found, WP:NOPRO. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note - please see the last paragraph of WP:SILVERLOCK. I only protected it for six hours, but if you think that's too much, I'll go and unprotect it. Airplaneman ✈ 04:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please do unprotect it; IPs are supposed to be able to edit the TFA, and the vandalism was not excessive; many editors watch the TFA and revert vandalism, and the mainpage should only be protected in extreme circumstances. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway it says until "00:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC).--TalkToMe_c^intelati 04:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done—unprotected. The "until "00:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)"" is the full move-protection, not the level of semi-protection I added onto this. Sandy, I will keep this discussion in mind when handling future TFA protect requests. Thanks again, Airplaneman ✈ 04:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, did I delete something incorrectly on my last edit? Since I don't have admin tools, I'm not sure what that was. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:16, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, it was perfectly fine :). I think the template just adds it from the semi-protected pages hidden category, since the lock icon doesn't show up if the page isn't actually protected. DumbBOT would've gotten to it later if you hadn't. Airplaneman ✈ 04:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

OK, that's what I thought. Thanks! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:29, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside, WP:NOPRO was changed after a discussion a little while back. It now says that, when considering protection, it should be treated like any other article. Not that I think it's usually implemented that way, or should be, but that's what it says.

Airplaneman, I can understand why you protected it and I don't think it was a particularly rotten call - the article wasn't getting slaughtered, but there was a definite flurry of malicious edits just before you protected it, edits that resembled a lame 4chan attack. Also, I appreciate the restraint on your part (six hours). I cringe whenever I see the TFA being protected for a few days or longer, when a few hours will usually fix the problem. So thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please reinstate The ZEN MULTIVERSE article

The Followers of the Understandable Truisms of the ZEN MULTIVERSE is a small religion looking for new members. We wish to have our basic doctrine returned to Wikipedia in hopes that more people can find out about us. We had planned many more articles to validate ourselves but were saddened to find that we were considered (G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible)

We are offended by this terminology.

The fact that the initial article contained references to airplanes was because the prophet Michael drew inspiration from the process of airline travel in planning the future of our religion.

Please re-consider your decision and reinstate the ZEN MULTIVERSE Wikipedia article.

ZENMULTIVERSE (talk) 18:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least, the article would be deleted under WP:A7 and WP:G11. Wikipedia isn't the place to advertise, and I have blocked your username as a violation of our username policy. Please don't be offended; I'm not here to troll. It's a hobby of mine, and it'd be a, extreme waste of my time if I came here to hurt others. I just don't think this subject is eligible for an article here yet. If you have any questions, just ask. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 20:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion on Ranger's Apprentice page

I noticed that an individual had made modifications to the article Ranger's_Apprentice and you reverted it to its previous condition, see link Diff between the versions at question . The individual not only added several notes of interest, but fixed several inaccuracies. I understand that you reverted it because it seemed to add fluff to the article. I am just giving you a heads up that I am going to not revert to the previous changes, but incorporate them into an addition and fixes to the article. I hope the changes that I will make are amiable to you. Jab843 (talk) 03:47, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, that is fine. Since I'm unfamiliar with the plot, I should refrain from reverting in the future. Thank you for letting me know. Airplaneman ✈ 03:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Page deleted - why?

You have deleted my page October2003 which I believe I was working on in my page space so that I could continue to improve the quality and content of this page before publishing to Wiki. I would like to know why you have deleted it. Was I building the page in the wrong work area?

You also deleted the page with the reasoning of ambiguous / promotional content. I would like to know how the content for the individual I was writing this page on is any different to the content found out the following http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Arno as I copied the same style of factual content.

Your comments on this would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by October2003 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

506 Infantry Regiment

Notice you'd removed the (United States) from the end since there are no other 506th Infantry Regiments listed, so no disambiguation is required. I'm curious if consistency with the other regimental article titles (502nd Infantry Regiment (United States) and 504th Infantry Regiment (United States), for example) is reason enough to leave the unneccesary disambiguation intact. I think it is, as we would otherwise need to go through every such regimental article and change the titles on those without another article of similar name. Interested in your thoughts. --Habap (talk) 13:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Airplaneman&oldid=393209590"

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	Notice you'd removed the ''(United States)'' from the end since there are no other 506th Infantry Regiments listed, so no disambiguation is required. I'm curious if consistency with the other regimental article titles ([[502nd Infantry Regiment (United States]] and [[504th Infantry Regiment (United States)]], for example) is reason enough to leave the unneccesary disambiguation intact. I think it is, as we would otherwise need to go through every such regimental article and change the titles on those without another article of similar name. Interested in your thoughts. --[[User:Habap\|Habap]] ([[User talk:Habap\|talk]]) 13:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)		Notice you'd removed the ''(United States)'' from the end since there are no other 506th Infantry Regiments listed, so no disambiguation is required. I'm curious if consistency with the other regimental article titles ([[502nd Infantry Regiment (United States)]] and [[504th Infantry Regiment (United States)]], for example) is reason enough to leave the unneccesary disambiguation intact. I think it is, as we would otherwise need to go through every such regimental article and change the titles on those without another article of similar name. Interested in your thoughts. --[[User:Habap\|Habap]] ([[User talk:Habap\|talk]]) 13:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)