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August 4

reticular theory

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I can´t find this article. Is there a way or place where I can request for a new article? I'm natural speaker of spanish. Thanks. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 01:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, you could request an article at Wikipedia:Requested articles, but it might take a long time before a volunteer gets around to writing one. In the mean time you could find a little about the subject in the biography of Joseph von Gerlach. —teb728 t c 01:51, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Try Neuron doctrine, Santiago Ramón y Cajal#Works and theories, and Heinrich Wilhelm Gottfried von Waldeyer-Hartz#The neuron theory too, because the ref there indicates it might be the same thing, Cajal, S. Ramón y. (1954) Neuron theory or reticular theory: Objective evidence of the anatomical unity of nerve cells. Transl. MU Purkiss and CA Fox. Madrid:Consejo superior de investigaciones científicas.  Chzz  ►  11:50, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I'll redirect Reticular theory to Santiago_Ramón_y_Cajal#Works_and_theories, which seems perhaps the best target - but feel free to correct me. WP:BRD.  Chzz  ►  11:54, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but technically are not the same. The first studies thinks that brain was a syncityum (a giant cell with millions of nucleus all together in a net made with neuronal fibers). Neuron doctrine pruve that was wrong and every neurone was independent and not form a net (not in the way describes at that time). So, when Cajal says "Neuron theory or reticular theory" he was giving the bassis to choose one and deplect the other. They´re two very different (opposites, actually) ideas. I will follow the advise and request the article in Wikipedia:Requested articles. Even when I'm admin at es:WP, I´ve got any idea of how to correct a redirection here. Thanks. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 01:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I will answer 'how to correct a redir' on that users' talk page.  Chzz  ►  13:18, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

More than "correct the redir", delete because you don´t have nothing right to point at (as I already explain, and can give you things to read and learn about, if you need). --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 17:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

IP addresses

I want to know IP addresses of websites managed by Wikimedia Foundation. 125.235.109.221 (talk) 03:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC) :If you want to hack Wikimedia, sorry, no. This information is not supposed to be public, sorry.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:24, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Jasper you are wrong. This information is public. According to ARIN the following IPs are allocated to Wikimedia:

208.80.152.0 - 208.80.155.255

http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-208-80-152-0-1 DouglasCalvert (talk) 03:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

And we will not tell you which IP is which or even the ones used.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Though that info can also be found easily, and there are legitimate reasons for wanting to know this information. Let's WP:AGF of the OP. FYI, It takes much more than knowing an IP to hack a website. ^Avic_ennasis @ 05:28, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Just enter command prompt and type in ping.exe en.wikipedia.org if you are using a Windows, Linux, or UNIX machine. I don't know about Macs. Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Of course, there are other Wikimedia servers besides the web front-ends...Jasper Deng (talk) 16:18, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

The list of IPs I gave was not a list of the web frontends. It was a list of the IPs that ARIN has allocated to the wikimedia foundation. Jasper there is no reason to be hostile to this request for information. The OP never suggested he wanted to hack wikimedia. DouglasCalvert (talk) 00:42, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia itself publishes the information at http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/IP_addresses.--v/r - TP 00:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

How do I move my Content Box?

How do I move my Content Box back down where it was, beside my maps? I don't know how or why it popped up to the top of the page, but it doesn't look good there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyCam (talk • contribs) 03:24, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I see you fixed it with this edit. The top of the infobox goes at the point in the article where you place it; so you generally want to place it at the top. —teb728 t c 05:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

No, I didn't fix it. I moved my map. I am trying to move my table of contents back down below my definitions but above my first heading, so it will be in the article, across from my map but not above it. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyCam (talk • contribs) 07:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Never mind. I got it. I had to remove the == == from my first heading to move it back to the top, above my table of contents. Thanks anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyCam (talk • contribs) 07:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

For future reference, you can force the Table of Contents to a different spot that normal by using the magic word __TOC__ ^Avic_ennasis @ 07:55, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Also for future reference, the lead section of an article is a summary of the article, and it does not have a section heading. That is why (unless you force the placement of the TOC) the TOC comes before the first section heading. —teb728 t c 08:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

...because, when it is live, the actual name of the page will be "Mental Health in Africa" (or something), and that makes the "title".  Chzz  ►  11:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Help needed with Harvnb references

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I'm using Harvnb references in my article Murder of Julia Martha Thomas, but none of the Harvnb links for D'Cruze work, and the single Gaute link (ref. 36) also doesn't work. I can't understand why they're not working, as they don't seem to be formatted any differently from any of the other references. Can anyone help? Prioryman (talk) 06:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

They will not work if the Bibliography entries contain multiple author names. (Though I'm not sure why.) ^Avic_ennasis @ 06:58, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I figured it out:

• Change the

{{harvnb|D'Cruze|2006|page=53}}

entries to read like

{{harvnb|D'Cruze|Walklate|Pegg|2006|page=53}}

And change:

• * {{cite book|last=D'Cruze|first=Shani|author2=Walklate, Sandra|author3=Pegg, Samantha|title=Murder: Social and historical approaches to understanding murder and murderers|publisher=Willan Publishing|location=Cullompton, Devon|year=2006|isbn=9781843921691|ref=harv}}

to read like

• * {{cite book|last=D'Cruze|first=Shani|last2=Walklate|first2=Sandra|last3=Pegg|first3=Samantha|title=Murder: Social and historical approaches to understanding murder and murderers|publisher=Willan Publishing|location=Cullompton, Devon|year=2006|isbn=9781843921691|ref=harv}}

Also, do likewise for the Gaute reference, and that should work. ^Avic_ennasis @ 07:12, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Done, by me. c/f FAC page.  Chzz  ►  09:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

New entry

Hi,

I've set up a page (about 3 weeks ago) and it's not appeared who do I contact?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.242.19 (talk) 07:41, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

What exact title did you use for it, or what username were you using when you set it up? This is the only edit for 95.146.242.19. —teb728 t c 07:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

You can avoid a lot of these "IP communication" problems if you create an account, because all your edits would be associated with it - see Wikipedia:Why create an account?.  Chzz  ►  07:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Removed incomplete Wikilink from previous para, since Chzz has added the full link later in the sentence. --ColinFine (talk) 08:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC) Oops; thanks  Chzz  ►  08:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

It's not clear what you mean by "set up a page", and "appeared". Only named accounts can create pages, so I'm guessing that you edited the user page of whichever IP address you happened to be using when you did it. If so, that page is still there somewhere, but it's very hard to find unless we know the IP address. As teb728 says, this is the only edit for the IP address you are using now. (Even if you did the edit on the same machine, ISP's often issue IP addresses dynamically, so you many not get the same one again). You might find it helpful to read WP:Your first article.--ColinFine (talk) 08:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I had a look, and found only two pages created fairly recently by IPs in this range. So, maybe it is one of these - both were submitted for review in "article for creation", and both declined; reasons are shown on the pages;

• Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Dougal Irvine
• Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alastair Sooke

If it isn't one of those, apologies; I was just trying to help find it.  Chzz  ►  08:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

It might be Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alastair Sooke since the OP did say 3 weeks ago and this AfC was sent in 3 weeks and 3 days ago.--v/r - TP 01:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

How to remove 'User' from main title of Wikipedia entry?

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Hi

I've recently created a Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wefsctr/World_Economic_Forum_Supply_Chain_%26_Transport_Risk and would like to know how to remove "User:Wefsctr/" from the main title, as it seems to appear by default.

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wefsctr (talk • contribs) 10:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you figured it out yourself - you moved the page, and it is now live. [1].

So is this question already answered?

The article, by the way, lacks any independent reliable sources, so there are problems with the notability - see WP:CORP.  Chzz  ►  10:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Did you read the feedback I left here? I see the article is now proposed for speedy deletion, which might have been avoided.--SPhilbrickT 12:15, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Your user name is also probably a breach of the user name policy as a WP:CORPNAME. – ukexpat (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion needed please

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Hi, I've somehow made a mistake. One of my incomplete articles has been posted and is therefore live. It's listed under User:Transaus/Transport Legislation Amendment (Taxi Services Reform and Other Matters) Act 2011. I've resaved it in my drafts. Not sure how this happened. Thanks a lot. Transaus (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

You can just add {{db-author}} to the top and an admin will stop by and delete it. GB fan please review my editing 11:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I did just that, [2].  Chzz  ►  11:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done--SPhilbrickT 12:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Wiki users request money

Some wiki users are requesting money about adding or editing some contents. My page as same as http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3 But japanese wiki admins are keep deleting my page.

If my article deleted for spam then why same articles stay there? If that page is still there then why my article was deleted.

What should i do for reporting some certain users for requesting money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.179.32.161 (talk) 11:27, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Comment: カゴヤ・ジャパン seems to be "Kagoya Japan", a Japanese IT company.

If you are asking about a page on Japanese Wikipedia, we cannot help here - you would have to ask on Japanese Wikipedia.

Each language Wikipedia have their own rules; their own policies and guidelines. They are not the same. The existence of a page on another language wiki does not mean it is suitable for English Wikipedia.

If you are you asking about an English Wikipedia page, please tell us the name of the page (even if it has been deleted). Thanks,  Chzz  ►  11:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Nazis on power trips who "dominate" and act like little Hitlers in determining content on some pretty important subject matter

I'm not a savvy techie but there seem to be autocratic busy bodies deleting content from wikipedia sites like the one on my tribe which mostly has an oral history that we want to share/preserve. When we speak of the genocide/murder of our tribsemen in Baraki Barak by the Soviets these were eye witness and refugee accounts that are not detailed in any book. Most of these people are illiterate. Why should u tube videos on tribal mores be deleted when they've been videotaped and provided by memebers of the tribe. Isnt this useful info on culture and mores? Who made some busy body the gate keeper of a very useful site albeit without professional monitoring. This is not right. If this person identifies self as a tribesmen with clout to delete our history we can accept this but to carte blanche delete materiel that others would find of interest borders on tactics reminiscent of the Soviets...whose actions well we all remember and not in the most positive light!

V/R Virginia City — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginiacity (talk • contribs) 13:09, 4 August 2011 (UTC) Sorry left out the page in question: Burki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginiacity (talk • contribs) 13:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC) (edit conflict)

• Please do not call a group of people "Nazis" and suchlike; to do so is a personal attack. If you have a specific complaint about a specific user, we can deal with that, without name-calling. See WP:CIVIL.
• "u tube videos" are not, usually, a reliable source because we don't know who uploaded them; we can't verify any claims made within them.
• Please remember that Wikipedia is not an appropriate venue to discuss your political issues; we can discuss "this part of this article is biased/wrong/needs fixing", but we cannot discuss the way society as a whole treats the history of that tribe, or anything else like that; see WP:SOAPBOX.

The above query isn't helping us to make Wikipedia articles better. If you have some specific concern, which you think we can help with, please explain it - with reference to an article, and whatever you think is wrong with it. But please remember, Wikipedians are working collaboratively, to try and make articles better. If a specific user isn't helping with that goal, we have processes to deal with that; shouting about a perceived generic problem, without showing specific examples, will not help us make progress. See Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot.  Chzz  ►  13:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Addendum: The above reply was made before you added the page in question. Having now looked at your edits to Burki, and other people disagreeing, I suggest you start a discussion on Talk:Burki. If two or more users disagree on something, it's vital to talk about it, and work out some agreement - not to just keep trying to force edits into the article.

In the event that you cannot reach agreement, there's various ways to sort it out. Please see WP:DISCUSS.  Chzz  ►  13:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I am always astounded by the cavalier way (and the commonality) with which people will throw around comparisons to Nazis and to Hitler. I really wonder how this started. "How dare you remove my X from X on your website... it's just like herding whole families into cattle cars so thick they are standing on top of each other, transporting them for days with no food or water, separating the survivors from the corpses at the death camp destination, separating them out into lines of those who will be shot or gassed or burned immediately and those who will be worked to death." Yes, the comparison is so apt and appropriate.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

My favorite still has to be this, though I admit that an e-mail from someone who saw fit to compare me to Pol Pot is pretty close. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 06:26, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Reductio ad Hitlerum / Godwin's law.  Chzz  ►  08:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, "act like little Hitler's" what? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 23:29, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Author identification for Confidence in Factual Correctness

I use wikipedia a lot. I'd really like to know who the authors are for the scientific and technical articles to know whether they're grad students or well established experts in their respective fields.

It would be nice to have a table other than View history with authors' nonanonymous information - where do they work/teach? their background, etc.

It's not just a matter of someone correcting articles; it's a matter of identifying those authors who are willing to be associated with their writing(s). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.223.8 (talk) 13:53, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Contributors are welcome to put their real-life ID, and professional qualifications, and other such information on their user page, if they wish to do so. Some random examples being User:Waldir, User:jbmurray, User:Adam Bishop.

Screenshot showing popup gadget displaying part of a user page

It is difficult to imagine how any "standard qualifications" could be shown on a page history directly, and I don't think it would be desirable.

However, registered users can enable the popups gadget in your preferences, then hovering over a user-name will give a quick preview of the associated user page.

Remember, of course, don't believe everything you read.  Chzz  ►  13:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :Many contributors don't want to reveal their true identity on Wikipedia for valid reasons I don't want to outline here in detail. Anybody who is willing to reveal his true identity will probably do so on his user page. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

To address the original issue, Wikipedian contributors are not exactly the 'authors' of the ideas they are writing about. They are only conveying the information, they are not the origin (see Wikipedia:Original research). You're better off clicking the tiny numbers beside each sentence or paragraph. They will take you to the specific reference that the information was based on. Then it's up to you whether the sources the contributor uses are reliable enough.

Scientific and technical articles will most often have peer-reviewed academic journals as sources. But every now and then, you'll find some dubious information sourced to dubious references in between the solidly-referenced text. Remember that articles are usually the combined work of numerous people, not a single editor.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 14:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Academic studies of Wikipedia#Peer reviewed may be of interest; see signpost, here.  Chzz  ►  14:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Citation taskforce

Is there some kind of citation taskforce, ie a task force where I can request help with sourcing unsourced statements in an article? I have list article with a huge number (in the hundreds) of unsourced entries. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

You could post at the talk page of an appropriate Wikiproject for the subject-matter of the list. Those editors would be most familiar with the kinds of sources for that topic. What is the article you have in mind? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

The article is List of conglomerates. The appropriate place to request help thus seems to be WT:COMPANIES (or maybe WT:BUSINESS). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:27, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

The problem with this article is, that sourcing each entry is a real pain and I am not sure if anyone from these WikiProjects would be willing to jump in. Therefore my question, is there a group of editors specializing in sourcing unsourced entries in articles with large numbers of unsourced statements like this one? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

You could post on Wikipedia:Cleanup.

However, there is an epic backlog in unreferenced/poorly-referenced articles. The fact that the article already has {{Citation needed}}'s means, it is in Category:All articles with unsourced statements, and thus flagged for attention. Unfortunately, there are over 200,000 articles in that cat - so when it will get attention is another matter entirely. It's a good job there is no deadline!  Chzz  ►  13:45, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Editing in General

I wonder why the "Missing Manual" isn't prominently displayed on the left hand side of Wikipedia or at least on the "Reference Desk"? Because it is an absolute pain just for me to find it the first time. Fine you have the tutorials for newbies. But what about for those who aren't new and therefore would not re-read the tutorial? Maybe that's why Wikipedia is losing contributors; you want people to continue to contribute but you have them go through a maze to find out how to do more advanced things. Angry bee (talk) 16:36, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Probably better if you post this in Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) where there are people who can actually implement it. :) FWIW, I agree that Wikipedia's 'tutorials' are mind-numbingly labyrinthine.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 16:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Linking new picture to facebook info.

I edited a picture for my university page, and I want it to appear as the thumbnail for my school in the facebook info section. So far the old picture hasn't been replaced. How long would it take? Or do I have to follow a different course to make it happen? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadyaqureshi (talk • contribs) 17:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Uncategorized template

Hello. I was reading Help:Category and Help:Categories, but I found no link to the Template:Uncategorized in any of these 2 pages. But I think it is an important template the reader should be aware of. I think it should be both mentioned and linked. So can you please fix this problem? Thanx --151.75.96.139 (talk) 17:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Russell Crow

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To the actor Russell Crow I am confirming that the Qualla Bear picture is the signal for The Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia Washington D.C. that the whole activity was compromised and every thing was a struggle, that I had to go through everydam step, please forward that message, That I am at the Embassy of Panama which is the courtyard of the starbucks coffee shop.. and it is the Embassy of Paraguy, as I purchased the right for it to be the Embassy of Panama ( I purchased this as an Embassy of my foster father Richard Dreyfuss as a suprise, and foster mother Marcia Clark the property has a code which is the MArriage Certificate between I and Ann Convertino of Gateways Hospital and Mental Health Center Los Angeles( The Vatican have the means to interpet the code, and Sylvester Stalone who didnot want us to be married has the interpreter, as well as Sharon Stone), and the persons who hit me with a board in my yard when I lived at 40635 159 th street East are paraguy, that essentially betrayed me as Deutshe Bank trust Company America employees, they apparently got caught up in the Masons like Chun Il Sun Wells did as Mel gibsons girl friend, Those Panamanians were not supose to hit me with a board that waas the signal of betrayal deep in this minds, and I was the President of the country for about 15 years, I suporrted Paraguy SO MANY PEOPLE DIDNOT WANT ANN AND I TO BE TOGETHER LET ALONE MARRIED, SO I HID A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE, AND GAVE THE INTERPRETER TO THE A PERSON I KNEW OPPOSED THE MARRIAGE, AND WHO ACTUALLY DOESNOT LIKE ANN CONVERTINO, I do not know the reason , but Sylvester Stallone doesnot like Ann, ( Mary Ann Convertino)of the probation dept in City Hall Los Angeles, who is also Ana Torres, and I am Daniel Torres, that is our married name, and in the film (Daniel and Ana) I knew IL SUN was Mel Gibsons Girl friend, after she betrayed me in the second TACO DEL criminal case, se did that to get my money from Deutschs bank, Referance to this is my drawings from Capitol area Vocational center Springfield Illinois 1978 to 1980, I remeber waht I wrote on those drawings, and I know that people are in shock that their bettrayal is evedent by a review of the notes, and events that have passed, as well as event which are occuring every day, I see the Television messages, and the internet information, I know I am being told about the notes and my signal confrimation of a fact you have confirmed for me, And it is scary how much was know about you back in 1978 and what we knew you would do, and the fact is you are where you should be exposed as a thief , a liar, a deboterist, and the fact is many of you I just do not want to see again, Becasue YOU are NOT SULLEN enough for me to be around,, YOU Know where you satnd with me if you reall think about it, and you know waht is going to happen to you in the years oe eternity to come so do not go around saying I am your friend or we get along becasue we do not, Christian Amedus Pendragon The KING OF ENGLAND aka Danny M. Wells <blanked> Embassy of Italy

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.230.9 (talk) 17:41, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TNXMan 17:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Cool story, bro.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 17:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

In cases such as this where the OP is quite obviously not entirely rational, shouldn't the entire topic be deleted? Roger (talk) 18:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

There's still every chance the poster could come back expecting to find some kind of reply. Doesn't really hurt to keep it here. Hidden. Яehevkor ✉ 19:21, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

How do I create a page for a songwriter?

I want to create a new page for a songwriter. How do I do that? I already searched and there is no Wikipedia page for him. I no I can edit pages, but I want to actually create one. Thank you in advance Jkathleen88 (talk) 20:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Standard advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. – ukexpat (talk) 20:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) A good starting point is a userspace draft (see Help:Userspace draft). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Scott_Evil

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Is to ok to categorize Scott_Evil under the category Category:Fictional_American_people_of_Belgian_descent since his father Dr._Evil is Belgian? Neptunekh2 (talk) 22:50, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Valid Categories: How come categories like Category:Fictional_American_people_of_German_descent get to exist but categories like Category:Fictional_American_people_of_Belgian_descent can't exist? That doesn't make sense. Neptunekh2 (talk) 22:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it is not OK to put any article in that category because there is a consensus that there should be no such category. —teb728 t c 23:00, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Category has been G4'd. Editor recreated it after it was deleted at CFD a couple of weeks ago. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I have no problem against the category being created, if you can find more than one article that would belong in it. Nevermind, I did not see that it had been previously deleted via discussion. ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:01, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

For reference, the discussion is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 10#Category:Fictional American people of Belgian descent. —teb728 t c 23:07, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Technically there isn't even one. Dr Evil turned out not to be Belgian - he is Austin Powers twin brother, turned evil because he was brought up by Belgians. LOL --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I see you have become somewhat of an Austin Powers/Dr. Evil specialist thanks to Neptune ;-) CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 16:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

marked 'resolved', user blocked for actions relating to this

Live help

New users, you can also get rapid help here

 Chzz  ►  22:51, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps showing new users how to sign up for freenode ahould be the first step. Bielle (talk) 23:00, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Except you don't need to register a nick on freenode to be able to use IRC - not to mention it'd be overly complicated for users who just want some quick-help without having to jump through hoops of registering this or that. ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:02, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

When I first clicked on the bar, it took me to a site that required a user name and password. That's when I wrote the suggestion. The second time I clicked on it, I didn't need the registration. Bielle (talk) 00:38, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Not sure why that was. If you see the username/password boxes again, simply uncheck "Auth to services". ^Avic_ennasis @ 08:23, 5 Av 5771 / 5 August 2011 (UTC)

If we could make it even easier, then I'd approve. See Outreach:Talk:LiveHelp.  Chzz  ►  01:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

August 5

Protecting my wp account

Hello, I remember seeing something about how to protect your wikipedia account but I can not find the information anymore. The basic idea used some sort of challenge/response or nonce word and a SHA digest. Any clues to what happened to this info? DouglasCalvert (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Are you asking about WP:COMMIT? —teb728 t c 02:15, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Thats the one! Thank you I tried my hardest but I could not find it. DouglasCalvert (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Vector images of trademarks

What is the correct procedure to deal with media in Category:Vector images of trademarks? Nearly all of these images seem to fail WP:NFC Policy 3. b.. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:13, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

For the purpose of WP:NFCC#3b the size of an SVG logo is taken to be the rendered size. So the logo should be rendered no larger than is required for the purposes of identification and/or critical commentary. (See {{SVG-Logo}}. The fact that it could be rendered larger is not considered a 3b violation. —teb728 t c 10:25, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

3b says "This rule also applies to the copy in the File: namespace." When I click for example 2000px at File:007.svg I am leaving the File: Namespace, as the 2000px rendering is at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/007.svg/2000px-007.svg.png. Perhaps this means, it is in fact not a violation. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Article accreditation

Please could I be sent a break down of the accreditation or rating system for Wikipedia becaues it often features in my research and would like to know how to rank the various pieces in relation to other sources I might use. A graduated validation system would be ideal with an explanation of how ratings or attained.

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankylisk (talk • contribs) 09:36, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

If you are asking about the reliability of information in Wikipedia, it is not reliable at all, but as a matter of policy all information must be verified (or at least verifiable) with a citation to a published reliable source. (And Wikipedia itself may not be used as a source on Wikipedia.) So if you want to validate the information you get from Wikipedia, you go to the sources and validate the information there. —teb728 t c 10:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

template for code of federal reguations

Is there a template useful for citing US Code of Federal Regulations? Something like template:cite journal but for CFR. DrMatthias (talk) 11:31, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found what I'm looking for: Template:CodeFedReg. DrMatthias (talk) 11:50, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

It's unfair to add such Allegations/Controversies on a biography when nothing has been proved yet. Article Subrata Roy

In the section "Controversies" of the article "Subrata Roy" there are two different allegations 1. 2G Spectrum Scam and Contempt of Court & 2. Securities and Exchange Board of India Ban

Both cases are still under judiciary and nothing has been proved yet. In contempt of the court case Senior Advocate K K Venugopal said on behalf of the CBI that: “Evidence found till now is insufficient” Reference: http://post.jagran.com/2g-case-cbi-examines-radia-others-in-allegation-against-sahara-1310403191 . In case of SEBI ban, Supreme Court of india on 15th July 2011 granted a stay on market regulator SEBI’s order of June 23, 2011 that ordered Sahara Group companies to return the money raised through optionally fully convertible debentures (OFCD). Reference: http://profit.ndtv.com/news/show/sc-directs-sahara-to-approach-sat-against-sebi-order-on-ofcds-164375 So according to me it is unfair to write about these Allegations/Controversies on a biography when nothing has been proved yet and it should be deleted from this article. I would like to request all contributors to put your views forward on this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.122.14.34 (talk) 11:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

They are sourced and notable, I'm afraid. Just please note the wording used. The sections carefully make it a point to say 'allegedly', this is compliant with WP:DUE. Removing them is unhelpful, as that is tantamount to censoring. If you think this might be a guilt by association scenario, it may help if you add other viewpoints of the cases instead. You already have the sources in hand.

Also see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:Controversial articles, and Wikipedia:Criticism.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 11:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Changes to Country Risk wiki page and editing country pages

hi, I am trying to update the "country risk" page which already has information about a survey and wanted to give a better overview of what the survey is about. It was not intended for advertising. Also, I have been unable to add a reference link to country pages about more details on the actual rankings. please advise! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emresearch6 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Perusing your contributions, it looks like you are spamming a link across multiple articles. Please do not do that. I would suggest reading our guide to advertising, as that may assist you. TNXMan 13:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

(e/c) Both the adding of links and your user name suggests you are operating under a conflict of interest. Your actions would appear to me to be reference spamming. I would not recommend you continue as you have, your best bet is to read the guidelines I have linked you to, then if you feel these links add something to an article you can suggest it at the article talk pages (i.e. Talk:Country_risk) and independent/uninvolved editors can add it to the articles if they feel it will contribute. Яehevkor ✉ 13:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Privacy and Safety

If I have a Wikipedia username, can my IP address still be discovered? I have been targeted before by botnets and am worried that my Wikipedia posts may have been the reason. I have abandoned my old account and have created a new username as a precaution. Did I really need to do that?

If anyone knows about this (really knows, please no guesses) please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Writeonandon (talk) 12:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Only specific, privileged users called checkusers have access to IP data of contributors, and they must identify themselves personally to the Wikimedia Foundation to prevent abuse of the data. So no, no botnet-operator can find your IP address from your username. However, if you ever accidentally edit logged out, you should contact an administrator or oversighter to get the IP hidden. Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Registering an account hides your IP address. There are a very limited number of users (called checkusers) that look at your IP info. This is only done, however, if you are suspected of operating multiple accounts contra policy or otherwise abusing Wikipedia. TNXMan 12:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the answers! :-)

Writeonandon (talk) 16:51, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Drop of Contributors

I can understand why there is a drop in contributors. So many pages are monitored by someone with a large ego that feels like the own the page. Every time someone updates the page the revert it back, over and over and over again. I just gave up on contributing because it became a waste of time fighting with these people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.61.148.178 (talk) 12:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The editor seems to be sore about their contributions, like this one, being removed. That was removed because items in a list of that sort should be notable and have an article first and then they can be added to such lists. That is one of the provisions of WP:REDLINK. Dismas|^(talk) 13:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Reporting an error

I found an error in an article that I want to bring to someone's attention, but I don't want to change it myself. What can I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.166.84.225 (talk) 13:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

You can mention it here or on the article's talk page, where other interested editors can see it. TNXMan 13:28, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

You could also have mentioned it here and one of us could have taken a look at it. Dismas|^(talk) 13:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Usablenet Wikipedia Page Status

Hi there,

I created the Usablenet Wikipedia page a couple weeks ago and it has yet to be approved. Do you know when it'll go live?

Thank you in advance for the quick response! Briana

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.61.83.10 (talk) 13:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Please refer to the comments in the pink box at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Usablenet. (I have removed your email address to protect your privacy). -- John of Reading (talk) 13:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

It was subsequently edited and resubmitted, but unfortunately I had to decline it as a copyright violation.  Chzz  ►  18:22, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Wonder Man comic book

I looked up "Wonder Man comic book" to look up a copy that I have and it doesn't seem to be included in the bibliography. I own a Wonder Man comic book by Marvel comics that is a first edition is the March 1985 issue. I am not an expert but I believe that this issue is a compilation of previous work and isn't original but was published and sold by marvel comics in 1985. It is possible that this is the reason it was not included in the bibliography.? Either way I feel that I may have a very, very rare comic book since it "does not exist". Confirmation of this fact would be awesome if you could. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.147.123 (talk) 15:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 TNXMan 15:11, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Making coords visible through infobox

Many infoboxes add coordinates to the top of the article or display them inside the infobox if coords are added. See Stony River Township, Lake County, Minnesota and Epsilon II Archaeological Site for examples: neither of them have any coordinate coding except for those in {{Infobox settlement}} and {{Infobox NRHP}} respectively, but both have the coordinates in the top right corner and underneath the map. To my surprise, entering the "latitude" and "longitude" fields of {{Infobox hospital}} (see Midwest Proton Radiotherapy Institute for an example) only works to produce the map, and using the "coordinates" field produces the coords in the top right corner and displays them in the infobox, but it doesn't produce the map. Any idea how the template could be modified to allow the "coordinates" feature to produce the map or the "latitude" and "longitude" features to display the coords in the infobox and the top right corner? Nyttend (talk) 15:38, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Publications critical of the Latter Day Saint movement

Resolved

I would like to add a book to the list of books entitled "List of publications critical of the Latter Day Saint movement." I can't figure out how to do it. When i go to the site and click "Edit" I get a format that doesn't resemble the list itself. How do I add a book to that list?

Ed Bliss <blanked> FriendlyDiscussion (talk) 17:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand your question. The list is formatted in standard Wikipedia markup language. Just use another book listing in the right section as a model to emulate. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:06, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Considering the context of what he says, I think he is asking how to add a page to a category. LikeLakers2 (talk) 17:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

From the user's page, it appears that he is attempting to insert his own book into the list. I'd think that WP:COI might be relevant here. While I'd not make any judgement one way or another regarding the merits of the book, I do have to ask whether the list itself is justified. Are there other 'Lists of publications critical of X' in Wikipedia? AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:13, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

"A Friendly Discussion: Mormonism Pro and Con is a book by Ed Bliss"; he'd inserted a link to this self-published book, and one of our IPs had removed it from the list for obvious reasons. The spamusername account has been blocked. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Image info

Resolved

This image was moved to commons. However, the description & cats were lost in the move. Is it possible for someone to place this info on my talk page so I can re-add it to the file? Thanks. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 21:22, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

As it was deleted by Athaenara (talk · contribs), I've told their about this [3].  Chzz  ►  23:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Restored (file log). I'm she, BTW. – Athaenara ✉ 23:16, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Athaenara, thanks. FieldMarine, the local image is back, File:Asa Biggs Historical Marker 1.jpg. Marking this 'resolved'.  Chzz  ►  23:30, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Technical help about moving two articles

Resolved

After I have read WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and esspecially the example about Albert Einstein, I need some technical help:

• The disambiguation page "Steinway" should change name to "Steinway (disambiguation)"
• The page "Steinway" should then redirect to the article "Steinway & Sons"

--Peoplefromarizona (talk) 22:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree.

I'd like to just do it, but can't, because the dab exists. Therefore, step #1 is, I tagged that for deletion; [4] - in case it has already gone, here's what I added;

{{db|I want to move "Steinway" here, and then make "Steinway" a redir to [[Steinway & Sons]], which I am confident is clear primary topic. See [[Wikipedia:Help_desk#Technical_help_about_moving_two_articles]]. I support that bold suggestion, and would like to perform it per BRD, so I need this one deleting; it has no meaningful hist/content.}}

If that's deleted as per my request, I can do the remainder.  Chzz  ►  22:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

It's been deleted, so I've done the rest.

The DAB page is now Steinway (disambiguation). And Steinway redirs to Steinway & Sons. Done?  Chzz  ►  23:06, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

It is perfect. Thank you very much. --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 23:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

August 6

Internet Explorer and Firefox

Internet Explorer 9 and Firefox 5 renders the same Wikipedia page differently. Do you notice the difference? Marthelati (talk) 05:03, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

The rendering difference

edit: I added the thumbnail and right align parameters to your filename because it was WAY too big otherwise. Anyone may click the image to see the fullsize version. --Jayron32 05:12, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

All browsers render pages differently; thats sorta how HTML is supposed to work; the data is going to be handled by an uncountable number of combinations of CPUs, browsers, monitors, cell phones, tablets, etc, so the HTML is designed to be readible and workable in all of those formats; the rendering is handled at the client end (i.e. on YOUR computer). The difference in this case is very subtle, it looks to be mainly a slight difference in font size causes different word wraps. Pay it no mind, it isn't an error or a problem, this is how the internet works. --Jayron32 05:15, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

It is time to pay it some mind. The "Search" text in the search box is gray in IE, but solid black in Firefox. Marthelati (talk) 10:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Please be more direct. Are you implying that one of the search boxes doesn't work? Or that you don't think there should be pre-filled gray text in a working box? Or something else? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:17, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I mean the pre-filled text "Search". Marthelati (talk) 11:38, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

If you mean that you don't think the pre-filled text should be gray in Internet Explorer then this is common at many sites for text that automatically disappears when something is typed. It is called a textbox watermark. See for example http://v4.dotnettutorials.com/controls/ajax-textbox-watermark-control-tutorial-in-asp-net-using-c/ which says: "The AJAX Textbox Watermark Control is a simple control that allows greyed out text to be displayed over an empty Textbox. It is a very popular control on web forms helping to show people what to place in Textboxes without using Labels. It is a very simple setup, but it makes a site look more professional." PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

This time the difference is no longer subtle. The "Password blank" message in Firefox is notably larger than IE's. (IE is in normal font, while Firefox is in large font) Marthelati (talk) 01:08, 7 August 2011 (UTC) (Resign: Marthelati (talk) 01:08, 7 August 2011 (UTC))

Another rendering difference

So what's your point? Different browsers render pages differently; that's how the internet works. It has nothing to do with Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:22, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Bug submitted on MediaZilla as bug #30265 Marthelati (talk) 06:50, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

As we keep telling you, this is normal all over the Internet for browsers with different web browser engines. Please stop reporting these differences when both versions are perfectly readable. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:21, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Add new article

how do I move an article from my user account to main page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Campionplatt (talk • contribs) 03:43, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

See Help:How to move a page for the short version and Wikipedia:Moving a page for the long version, though Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft is probably more what you need. As an aside, I would NOT move the text currently in your user account to the main namespace; it would pretty much get deleted instantly for this reason. Also see Wikipedia:Notability, which is VERY relevent here. --Jayron32 03:51, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Why is Wikipedia so slow?

I have a large number of edits to do, but I am giving up and going to bed. Every time I hit save, it says "waiting for en.wikipedia.org" and that message stays up for 55 seconds. Did someone forget to feed the squirrels who run in the treadmill which powers the servers? Is there a virus, or is the system broken down? A world class computer project would not have such a delay for every edit. I have a broadband connection, but I might as well have a 300 baud modem (I had one once, and I think things went faster than with the present system.)Edison (talk) 04:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like a problem at your end, and not Wikipedia. I, for one, am not having any troubles you are describing, so it doesn't sound like a Wikipedia problem at all. You may want to contact your ISP if this sort of thing continues. --Jayron32 04:26, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Wikipedia actually uses Red pandas for the treadmills, since the feed is cheaper. I have a pathetic connection from a pathetic ISP, but I'm not getting more than a second or two delay. It might just be on your end. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:27, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I thought we used Wikipedians who are enslaved by Jimbo Wales to power it? :P Anyway, I think its more because of all the edits being made at once causing the lag. I mean, I live in Florida, where the enwiki server(s) are supposedly located, and I get a bit of lag. And I have a connection to the internet that is 1.6 MB/s max, according to Steam. You read right, I said MB instead of Mb. LikeLakers2 (talk) 05:05, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Why the hell am I banned in IRC???

The first time I tried I got a message Steven_Zhang kicked Surajt88. The second time I got this: #wikipedia-en-help Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned. I have received some pretty insulting remarks there in the past, but this is a bit off the limit. Suraj T 04:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Have you asked Steven Zhang on his talk page? --Jayron32 04:59, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia proper, unfortunately and stupidly enough, has no control over its IRC channels. I've alerted Steven to this thread. That being said, the reason he gave leads me to believe that the boot itself was good, although you might be caught in it for the wrong reason. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:01, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

As an op in the channel, I have been dealing with a banned user, Thepoliticalmaster (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who has been abusing the webchat connection and evading their K-line. Due to the account name (see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Surasaman) as well as the IP range looking similar, and this user trolling in IRC a lot, I jumped the gun and placed a ban. I have lifted it pending information from a checkuser. Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 05:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I did not ask him yet as his talk page notified he's offline. Anyway the problem I had is being discussed here. I'll proceed to ask him now. Thanks for the prompt response. Suraj T 05:15, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I have discussed with Steven Zhang regarding this issue here. Thanks for the response. Suraj T 05:46, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

My reasons for placing the kick ban were 1) Almost identical username to previous usernames TPM used on wiki in previous accounts, and their email and b) Similar IP range in the web chat when both TPM and and the above user entered the channel. As TPM edited from the UK, it appears at times they have used open proxies to conceal their IP through web chat, and this was the reason for my pre-emptive ban. I unreservedly apologise and of course have lifted the ban. Steven Zhang ^{The clock is ticking....} 05:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Steven Zhang. Suraj T 06:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Help finding anything on vixon Ayala

--184.223.130.200 (talk) 07:03, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

As noted above, this page is for questions related to the use of Wikipedia, not general knowledge questions. Try using the search box at the top of every page to find the information you're looking for or check out the Reference Desk. Good luck. RandomAct^{(talk to me)} 07:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Please help

Hello, Please help to correct the erroneous information that is being broadcast on my Wikipedia page, under the actress Michele Santopietro. It states that I was born on a date that is not correct. Thank you so much for removing it.

Sincerely, Michele Santopietro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santopietro7 (talk • contribs) 10:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

The information was removed from Michele Santopietro. GB fan please review my editing 11:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Santopietro7, thanks for letting us know. If you have further concerns, the information in WP:FEFS might be helpful. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  13:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Foreign language redirects

Is it allowed to create foreign language redirects? What I think of is for example redirecting Erdbeben, which is the German word for earthquake, to the article Earthquake. I looked at WP:RDR but did not find a specific answer. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:35, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I would think generally not. The point of a redirect is for plausible search items that someone might enter, and while it is conceivable someone may forget they are at the English Wikipedia and type in a word in another language, I would expect that to be rare, and a mistake. If it were allowed, it would open the floodgates to hundreds of millions of possibilities (3.7 million x number of languages). A possible exception might occur whether the English language word is very close to the foreign word, and both are used commonly. --SPhilbrickT 12:57, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Common sense overrules any policy here. If a foreign word was used a little in the English-speaking world, then this might be appropriate - after all, redirects are cheap. For example, I have seen the word Gedankenexperiment used in Western literature, so it is reasonable to consider someone might search on it.

However, Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and this is the English Wikipedia, so adding redirects from every word, in every language, would be highly disruptive; it would flood searches with terms that were mostly unhelpful.

In the specific case of Erdbeben, I cannot imagine a Western non-specialist publication using the term without explaining it, so I think it an unlikely search-term. It probably would not be deleted if made - Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion#When should we delete a redirect? is quite easy-going. But, I don't recommend making it (unless you really do think English-speakers would be searching for it).

There is a semi-related discussion, which contains further comments on the topic, and links to others, here.  Chzz  ►  13:12, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I routinely come across and do some foreign language redirects myself to biological taxa. Even in countries like ours where English is also one of the official languages, common names for animals and plants in other countries generally do not coincide with American common names. Especially if the taxa are not native to majority English-speaking countries, the local common names (which could also be in English) would then actually have wider usage. Local academic papers are also more likely to use local common names than foreign ones for native or naturalized species. Examples include Nangka, Gumamela, Hagonoy, Siriguelas, Kalabasa, Makopa, Ilang-ilang, etc. But yeah... that's a different matter than 'earthquake' though.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 16:41, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

about thevenin theorem

why the value of thevenin voltage is zero in case there is no independent source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.15.101.227 (talk) 14:05, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

See Thevenin's theorem and if you still have questions, ask again at the Reference desk. This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Dismas|^(talk) 14:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Belly amphora and wierd title

Actually trying to edit an article about Physics I got waylaid checking other articles for information and ended up in Archaic Greece! So, this is how I ended up at Andokides and Andokides painter and, finally, Belly Amphora by the Andokides Painter (Munich 2301).
As this was a link at the bottom of the AP article I was just going to decaps it when I realized it was a WP article, so can some more expert eyes give their opinion, or do something. Firstly, I doubt that the title is a proper wiki title, what with catalogue no. and all, I was going to pagemove to a decappsed version but figured that this title is a no-no. Also it is totally unreffed (added tag) and about 4 times longer than the article on the actual potter, Andokides. And, is it notable? I mean does Wikipedia have articles on this sort of thing, it's not the Venus de Milo or anything. Feedback? CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 15:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

It isn't unique. One of the others in Category:Individual ancient Greek vases is Oinochoe by the Shuvalov Painter (Berlin F2414). And the German version of the category not only has those two but 5 or 6 others that are almost that bad. And going from the German to the Greek on one of those articles leads to *quite* a few works of art with that sort of denotative description in parentheses.( el:Κατηγορία:Εθνικό_Αρχαιολογικό_Μουσείο for example.) I'd drop a question on WP:Art and let them know including the fact that it needs references, but I would definitely *not* support either changing the case or deleting it.Naraht (talk) 16:01, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry the case change is obvious, amphora and painter to conform to MoS, I was wondering about the cat ref in the title, appears bizarre to me. And as for other stuff exists, this is no justification for keeping it. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 16:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I moved it to Belly Amphora.

In the same way, we have an article called Love Me Do. We don't call it Love Me Do by The Beatles (Parlophone R4949). We only add disambiguations where necessary, and I don't know of another "Belly Amphora".

It is, of course, unreferenced and probably original research.  Chzz  ►  17:42, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm don't like the new title. A "belly amphora" is any amphora having this shape (see eg [5]). The Wikipedia article is about a specific example. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, well I just wanted to throw some light on it, should be "Belly amphora" btw, but thanks at least for doing something. So is it OR, does it deserve to stay? CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 18:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Non-free

Can I upload media that I created myself and is free content or public domain to Wikipedia and use {{Non-free use rationale}} to fool other that they are non-free? Marthelati (talk) 15:40, 6 August 2011 (UTC) Resign: Marthelati (talk) 15:40, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure this would be possible, as such media would be likely to fail WP:NFC Policy 1.. Furthermore I guess this could get you blocked as a preventive measure (see Wikipedia:Blocking policy#Blocks should be preventative). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:27, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

@Marthelati: More to the point, see WP:POINT. We're here to build a good encyclopedia, not try to pull tricks or "fool people" into thinking anything. If you do not share the goals that Wikipedia has set out, this is not the place for you. --Jayron32 16:35, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

@Marthelati: An additional comment: You say "...that I created myself and is free content...". Unless you do explicitly release that media under a free license, it is in fact NOT free content, as you hold the copyright for it. You could of course add your own non-free media to an article on Wikipedia, if you can demonstrate it satisfies Wikipedias Non-free content policy (see WP:NFC#Policy). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that is true. See Wikipedia:Image use policy#User-created images, which says, "All user-created images must be licensed under a free license, such as the GFDL and/or an acceptable Creative Commons license, or released into the public domain, which removes all copyright and licensing restrictions." —Bkell (talk) 17:16, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, what I said above is true. Wikipedia cannot force anybody to release their own content under a free license. If I create an image and choose, not to release it under a free license, I can still use it if it satisfies Wikipedias non-free content policy. Of course Wikipedia encourages users to create free content, as we want to build a free encyclopedia. If I choose not to do this, then it will not count as "user-created image", although (technically) it is. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:25, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

That's a strange interpretation of the phrase "user-created image". If you are interpreting "user-created image" to mean "a freely-licensed image created by a Wikipedia user", then that sentence from the image use policy is meaningless. —Bkell (talk) 17:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

In the sense of Wikipedia, a "user-created image" is always released under a free license. An image that I create myself, however, is not necessarily a "user-created image". Note that "user-created image" in the sense in which Wikipedia uses the term is not identical to the inherent meaning of the term. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Again, if that's the case, then that sentence from the image use policy is meaningless. Why does the image use policy say, "All user-created images must be licensed under a free license…"? If the phrase "user-created image" is to be interpreted to mean a freely-licensed image, then all that sentence says is, "All freely-licensed images must be licensed under a free license," so what's the point? —Bkell (talk) 17:55, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

The problem is the word must. All images which I create myself AND release under a free license are (by the definition) user created images. However, how would Wikipedia force me to release my images under a free license? If I choose indeed not to do this, it is no longer a "user-created image", but I am still able to use my own image under WP:NFC, provided I am able to include a valid rationale. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:26, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, certainly Wikipedia cannot force you to release your image under a free license. However, Wikipedia can refuse to accept contributions from you that are not freely licensed. I think that is what the sentence from the image use policy is saying. Your interpretation of the phrase "user-created image" makes the sentence from the image use policy nonsensical (or at best tautological), so it is difficult for me to accept that interpretation as valid. Can you point me to a page explaining that the phrase "user-created image" means what you say it means? Otherwise I am strongly inclined to interpret "user-created image" to mean "an image created by a user", which is clearly what the words themselves are saying, and which would make this sentence I've quoted from the image use policy meaningful. —Bkell (talk) 18:35, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Why should Wikipedia refuse my contribution, if I can provide a valid rationale? Per the phrase "Wikipedia encourages users to upload their own images. All user-created images must be licensed under a free license." at WP:IUP#User-created images, a user created image is one that the user uploaded himself under a free license. That means, Wikipedia prohibits users to upload their own images under any other than a free license, but that does not prohibit one to use ones own images in accordance with WP:NFC. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I've started a discussion about this at Wikipedia talk:Image use policy#"All user-created images must be licensed under a free license", which seems to be a more appropriate venue and where it will hopefully draw discussion from a wider group of contributors. —Bkell (talk) 21:46, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

If you do not wish to release the full resolution/high quality image to the public, a possible workaround is to upload a lower resolution/lower quality/portion image of it and release it for free. That way you still retain copyright to the larger original image.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 17:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

• I love this idea - yes of course you could offer your pictures under a non free license, there is a lot of support in a section of users for non free pictures being better than nothing/completely acceptable - (although this is against the foundations objective as regards commons compatible files) and what have you lost if the picture is deleted, nothing. As Obsidian soul also suggests - release in as a thumbnail. - this will not devalue your image and yet promote it through non free use and high profile viewing figures via wikipeidia, this may also result in increasing the copyright value and profile of your pictures. Off2riorob (talk) 18:42, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Exact copying from Government forms OK?

Let's say that the US Federal Government puts out a new 1040-Q tax form to be used only by people for whom both parents have worked as Clowns in the United States. The Instructions sheet for the 1040-Q lists in bulletpoint fashion, what must be true for those filing a 1040-Q form. Is it OK to copy that information directly to IRS tax forms or must some effort be made to rephrase? Similarly if there is prose description of why those people should fill out a 1040-Q form, would that be acceptible to include? I'm trying to get a limit on how much text (if phrased appropriately for the article) can be copied. I know that there aren't copyright issues, but how much text would be reasonable? I guess if it is *huge* it could go to Wikisource, right?Naraht (talk) 16:46, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

As a form of quotation, WP:QUOTEFARM applies. The 'reasonable amount' would be, whatever helped understanding for the topic - and would be somewhat dependent on the non-copied content (ie, in proportion) - for example, in almost all cases, the lyrics of a song or words of a poem are not considered acceptable but, in a long article which analyses each line, it can be - e.g. I think Kubla Khan is OK.

Most important is, that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.

From the sounds of your question, it'd be very excessive to quote the whole thing; instead, we should describe the tax, with reference to independent sources. "Do not base articles entirely on primary sources." - WP:PSTS. HTH,  Chzz  ►  17:32, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

You're talking about content that might well be violative of WP:NOT#HOWTO, since we are not interested in hosting a tax manual in Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, tax manuals were the first thing that I thought of. The *real* reason I asked the question is at Social security number, the last part of Structure on the effects of SSN randomization appears to be identical (other than shifting from bullets to numbers) to the words in the referenced page on socialsecurity.gov. It is about 6-7 lines all told. Keep as it is, or do we need to rephrase/reduce?Naraht (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

It's public-domain text, so no problem there. I don't think it's particularly excessive, in that case; it could be re-worded. One thing needs fixing - the tense; it says, SSN randomization will affect, It will eliminate - but apparently has already happened, back in June.  Chzz  ►  18:37, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Locating records from Moryn, Poland

Moryn is in Gryfino county and so are Cedynia, Chojna and Mieszk0wice. I am looking for records of the Church of the Holy Spirit in Moryn or if there is a church in the other villages what are the names? The dates are from 1830 to 1874. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.187.152.172 (talk) 18:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.^Avic_ennasis @ 21:06, 6 Av 5771 / 6 August 2011 (UTC)

posting box

i cannot find a posting box to ask a question on the referencedesk./216.31.235.194 (talk) 19:11, 6 August 2011 (UTC){also,iforget correct terms to describe things,ie.posying box}

Do you mean the page Wikipedia:Reference desk? You have to click on one of the blue links in the box underneath the phrase "For information on any topic, choose a category for your question:". Then you will arrive at a "Desk" similar in appearance to this one. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:17, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

i want to make my artcle permanent

i edited a topic and now i dont want anyone to change it or edit it, how can i do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by الحقيقة و معي الله (talk • contribs) 20:43, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry but you can't. All articles in Wikipedia are available for others to edit. Some are protected but they are still available to edit by asking for changes on the article's talk page. GB fan please review my editing 20:55, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

publishing a specialized resume

Hi all,

I was wondering if it's possible to publish a spicialized resume or curriculum vitae about myself.

I am a scientist dealing with atmospheric chemistry and climate change. I would like to put attention on the different steps I had to go trough to get a global knowledge for understanding the main phenomena behind atmospheric chemistry. It is not possible to get formation on that matter in only one institute, but it is necessary to know how several research worldwide groups work on the subject. I studied and worked in Italy, Switzerland, USA and Belgium to learn and get my knowledge on the matter.

I am a clear example of multitask and interdisciplinary scientist who wants to explore all sides of environmental physical-chemistry. With my ever increasing knowledge in experimental work, satellite remote sensing, general modeling and European Policies for air pollution, I’m contributing to the international scientific literature in these fields.

My determination in the achievement of goals could be taken as a precious example for most of people working in scientific fields.Karafede (talk) 21:30, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sure, you can publish all of that, just not at Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for more information. You should also read Wikipedia:Alternative outlets for ways to get your CV published outside of Wikipedia. --Jayron32 21:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Not here at Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Dismas|^(talk) 21:25, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Nope, please read What Wikipedia is not. You could always check monster.com. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:31, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

August 7

User created a page for a file that is on Commons

Is that what happened here? I'm guessing that this should be deleted since the file is on Commons but I've never seen this before. Were they maybe trying to upload their own image and didn't understand what they were doing? Dismas|^(talk) 00:13, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

It has been deleted. Three minutes earlier the user added the same url for an external image to the article [6] where the Commons image is used, so it was apparently an attempt to display the external image in the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Producer forgotten on "Bangin' On Wax" album page

Hi Help Desk, My name is Jay Shanklin AKA" J-Stank." I am one of the producers on the record and my name is not listed. The other info I saw was pretty acurate. I am making it a point because, I was heavily involved in this project and the credits on the record include my name on several songs as Producer. "Piru Love" is most noteable.FYI there are no samples only "inspired by" creations on each title. I know because I was a featured musician on the majority of the record. Thanks Wikipedia for documenting this title, let's just document it right!

Bangin' on Wax (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

 Done Dismas|^(talk) 00:35, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Lawrence Tribe article- two versions??

"In 2004, Tribe admitted to plagiarism after reports surfaced that material published by Tribe in 1985 was lifted from material originally published by Henry J. Abraham in 1974.[11][12] The revelation..."

"In 2004, Tribe admitted to plagiarism after reports surfaced that material published by Tribe in 1985 was closely similar to material originally published by Henry J. Abraham in 1974. Some sentences were identical.[11][12] The revelation..."

when I search for lawrence tribe, the top version comes up. Then when I look at article history and click onwhatis supposedly the latest(my) version, the lower paragraph is in there. What's up? Rich peterson24.7.28.186 (talk) 02:05, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

The IP user 199.33.32.40 immediately added a sentence after your edits. Hence the difference. See his changes.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:32, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

You got Frank AbeckNALE Jr in here as an American Consultant & And Colton Harris Moore! My God!

You got Frank AbeckNALE Jr in here as an American Consultant & And Colton Harris Moore! My God! And your questioning the validity of this a black entrepenuer that was entered on this racist site This is the problem with this jacked up world today!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.125.254.237 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 7 August 2011

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.
The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  Chzz  ►  02:55, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Frank Abegnale and Colton Harris Moore both have articles because they are both covered in reliable independent sources - Wikipedia makes no value judgements about individuals whether they are convicted criminals or saints - we just need reliable sourcing which verifies the information. As to the black entrepreneur, without knowing who you are talking about, I can't give a definitive answer, but I would hazard a guess that his article is being considered for deletion (or has already been deleted) because he did not have a specific claim of significance and/or he did not meet the notability criteria. If you would like to tell us which person you are talking about, we could give more specific advice -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 06:07, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

a "Like" link for anything to for facebook

i am from boxford,massachusetts...should be a "Like" link to my facebook page...gives a good history and data to for my facebook visitors and friends — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.144.143 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center.

In contrast to facebook, Wikipedia is also not a social network and is completely free. We can not promote anything here. Adding Facebook "Like" links is tantamount to advertisement - which, as you may have noticed, Wikipedia does not have, nor will ever likely have.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

{{NUMBEROFEDITS}}

Is {{NUMBEROFEDITS}} covers only edits to pages in main namespace or all namespaces? Marthelati (talk) 09:17, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

According to mw:Help:Magic words, it covers all "page edits", not "article edits", so I'm guessing the latter. But then again, 1,229,812,699 (number of edits) / 61,022,440 (number of pages) = ~ 19 edits / page, which is kind of low. Maybe someone else can look through the code and come up with a definite answer. Regards SoWhy 09:37, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Seems about right to me. Sure there's numerous pages with many more than 19 edits but there's also about five million redirects (or ±20% of all pages) and I imagine the average number of edits to redirects is just over one.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:07, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

THE SCENARIO OF THE DEPOSIT COLLECTORS IN INDIAN BANKS.

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THE SCENARIO OF THE DEPOSIT COLLECTORS IN INDIAN BANKS This scheme was introduced in INDIA in 1915 in SYNDICATE BANK BY PAYING Rs.3.5% commission on collections to the collection agents. The collections agent should be retired employee from the government service. But the banks recruited youngsters for promotion scheme besides for bank business promotion. Later the same scheme was introduced in the various banks of the industry. In the year of 1980 due to a dispute between the banks and the deposit collectors the same matter was referred to the INDUSTRIAL TRIBUNAL, Hyderabad. The deposit collectors was represented for workman status with Rs.750/- wage per month as per the scales prevailing on that date in BHEL: HYDERABAD in Andhra Pradesh and 15 days of salary per year as gratuity (to be calculated on the commission earned at the time of retirement in that year) (Important portion of the Award Enclosed). In the early years i.e. at the age of 20/30 years earning is higher and at the old age due to health the same collections are not done by the said deposit collectors hence the gratuity comes very less amount. The Bank Clerks are drawing Rs.450/- (approximately) salary per month (1980). The Tribunal declared an award declaring the deposit collectors as workmen under Industrial Dispute Act. With Rs.750/- salary per month (Minimum collection of Rs.7,500/-) + 2% commission on and above of Rs.7500/- plus conveyance allowance. AT the time of declaration of award the banks are paying at a flat rate of 3% to 3.5% commission on the collections made by the deposit collectors. Collection amount COMMISSION (in Rs.) Before the Tribunal Award @ 3% After the Tribunal award First 1 lac 3,000 2,700 Above the 1 lac 3% not changed i.e. 3,000 2,000 With the judgment of the award the collectors are getting a loss of Rs.300/- for first 1 lac. collection and loosing Rs.1,000/- for every 1 lac. Collections after the 1st 1 lac collections. AT the same time the Regular employees are getting their salaries for every four years by wage settlement in the Banking Industry. As on date the Bank Clerk’s salary is minimum nearly Rs.10,000/-. The All India Banking Employees Union extended their affiliation to the deposit collectors for the welfare of the deposit collectors after the Tribunal award in 1988. From 1988 the said union has not done any favor to the deposit collectors. In the Banking Industry where a person has worked for a minimum of 180 days or more, they are offered as sweepers and sub staff. As we are working for the last 31 years (taking the year of case referred to the Tribunal) no one has given the chances for the regular employment into the Banking Industry from the deposit collectors, these things are made by & with the help of the said union/unions. The said union has not done any favor to us for absorption of regular employees as we are covered under Industrial Dispute act. But some banks at their own discretion with out the involvement of the said union {Private & Public sector (State Bank of Travancore)} has taken the deposit collectors as sub-staff and clerk cum cashiers as per their qualifications. The Tribunal award was challenged at High Court of Andhra Pradesh and Supreme Court of India by the Indian Bankers Association. The workmen status was given to the deposit collectors by the both Higher Judiciaries. But the same was now in the CGIT, New Delhi and on process of cross examination stage and waiting for the judgment by the CGIT. STATE BANK OF HYDERABAD has not implemented the said judgement (after the decision of the Supreme Court of India all the banks has implemented) until this date and harassing the deposit collectors for closure of scheme in the said bank. In this Bank in the month of January/Febraury 2005 the deposit collector of BHADRACHALAM (Andhra Pradesh) branch has attempted suicide in the branch premises before all the staff members and the same was informed to the High Court of Andhra Pradesh and the branch manager was served a notice to attend before the court. The bank union members has made pressure on the deposit collector to with draw the case from the court. The said same conditions are now in this bank. The said bank is not issuing the any circular not to open the new a/c.s and simply asking the agents to do so to close the scheme and step out all the agents from the bank themselves. In SYNDICATE BANK in the year of 2010 at UTUKURU (Nellore District, Andhra Pradesh) the deposit collector had attempted suicide and found dead by keeping two letter in the pocket of the Agent explaining the matter of harassment by the branch manager of Utukuru Branch, Syndicate Bank. (The press clipping enclosed herewith) In VIJAYA BANK the depositors are offered 2% rate of interest for the deposits made by the depositors for this scheme. If the depositor want to avail the deposit loan on the daily deposit the loan interest 12.5% will be charged to the depositor for his loan amount. Similarly for general deposits 2% extra will be charged on the prevailing deposit interest rate. This is also one way of the banking industry to send out all the deposit collectors without saying anything. Considering the facts I request your kind enough to consider raising inflation year by year since 1980, as the wage Rs.750/- is fixed in the year of 1988 by the tribunal award accoriding the to the index of 1980. Now the banking industry in need of human resource if we are given a chance for absorption of regular employees some of the families will enjoy the fruits of Industrial Tribunal.

--Yogavenkata786 (talk) 10:40, 7 August 2011 (UTC)B.Y.V. BHASKARA RAO dT.7-08-2011

I'm sorry, no one here can change your wages. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 -- John of Reading (talk) 10:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Feature at WP:UTN not working

At WP:UTN#Multi-level templates it says beneath the contents box "Hover over the template syntax to see a summary of the contents." At least for me, this does not work. Do I need to have some additional software installed for this or do something else in order to see it? If this is the case, then shouldn't that fact be mentioned there? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:21, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. The hover over text for {{tltts}} (and for {{tltts3}} does not seem to be working anywhere. I know that they worked at at one time because I created tltts3 just for use at WP:UTN, have added templates there multiple times, and I remember checking the hover over text I'd written for accuracy.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:36, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

It works for me when I hover over "{{" or "}}", but not over "subst:" or the template name. I guess this is what was meant by "Hover over the template syntax", but it sounds unclear. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:50, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Template:Tltt#Known problems says: "On some systems, the text only displays when user hovers over the curly braces, not over the link itself." PrimeHunter (talk) 12:53, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Hovering over "{{" or "}}" it works for me too. I simply interpreted "template syntax" as meaning the whole expression with the curly brackets, such as {{subst:uw-vandalism1}}, so I was tempted to place my cursor on the word and not the surroinding brackets. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Aha, I was using a different browser last I checked these templates.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:22, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I have investigated further. In all 4 tested browsers (IE, Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera), if I'm logged out, or logged in without Navigation popups enabled at Special:Preferences#preftab-9, then I only see the text when hovering over the curly brackets. If I enable Navigation popups then I also see the text (in addition to the popup) when I hover over the linked template name. A 2007 edit [7] changed the text from "Tip: Hover over the curly braces to see a description of the template." to "Hover over the template syntax to see a summary of the contents." Unless I'm missing something, I think it should be changed to say "curly braces" again. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:53, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Agree, it should be changed back. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:56, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Display of Wikipedia on my laptop

Hi Not sure what happened recently, but all of a sudden the display of Wikipedia on my laptop appears like 'plain text' - can anyone help please? I would like to know what setting I can change to reflect it in a better view (rich text). Thanks! Renier

You don't mention what browser you use or, though it's a less likely culprit, what operating system. Things you could try though is seeing if you've changed some setting in your browser's preferences, in Firefox hit Ctrl and the zero key to bring the text size back to normal, or clear your cache. Dismas|^(talk) 13:08, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Correcting instructions

Instructions are given about how to correct articles, but not about correcting Wiki 'instructions'. For example, we sometimes see the message "This article may require cleanup... (Consider using more specific clean up..." This should be "cleanup", but I don't know how to indicate this error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpkipling (talk • contribs) .

The message comes from a template. If you click "edit this page" then you will see code like {{Cleanup}} where the text is displayed, and a link like Template:Cleanup near the bottom of the window. You can suggest a change to the message at Template talk:Cleanup. English is my second language and I'm not sure whether "cleanup" or "clean up" is best in this case. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:10, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

English is a second language for me too, but according to Wiktionary, cleanup is a noun, while clean up is a verb. In the phrase "Consider using more specific clean up instructions", cleanup seems to be a Gerund, so I think you are correct. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:44, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Mmh, it is not a gerund, as it does not end with -ing. I am not sure what this form is actually called. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:05, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Infinitive.  Chzz  ►  18:21, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Kurt Russell

Mr Russell my REAL ESTATE agent, [rest of post redacted]

I suspect, based on your post, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your post. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:00, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Best Article of All?

What article is Good or Featured in the most languages? Interchangeable|talk to me|what I've changed 16:14, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 August 19#Wikipedia article Featured in most Languages. There's also Wikipedia:Wikipedia records#Languages, though if I remember correctly, that record was updated as a result of the prior help desk discussion (after it moved to my talk page). The long and short of it is that for featured articles, it appears to be Julius Caesar with 13 FA stars (it's also a good article at five other language Wikipedias). Note that it used to be featured here but was delisted in 2005. For the article with the most, that is featured on the English Wikipedia, it appears to be Moon with 11 FA stars total.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:42, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

about GATE prepiration

hi friends

i m a b.tech 3rd year(EC)student.plzz suggest me best book for GATE prepiration .— Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolsandy0809 (talk • contribs)

This question would be better asked at the miscellaneous section of the reference desk. This help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. In any event, I don't know if it's the "best" at all, but it appears you can view the entire contents of an exam prep book for the Graduate Aptitude Test in Engineering at this site.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:11, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Also, you could ask your question at the Reference desk for the Hindi Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:18, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

KISS

I would like to auggest the KISS or Keep It Super Simple be added to the meaning of KISS. Some people are turned off by the word stupid. Alright, a lot of people are. Ken Karow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.117.179 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 7 August 2011

I guess you are talking about, KISS principle. Do you have a reliable source that says it is used that way. Also the best place to discuss this in on the article's talk page. If you are talking about that article it is here, Talk:KISS principle. GB fan please review my editing 19:59, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

University of Liverpool - Incorrect Crest

I hope somebody is able to help me....

Recently, the new University of Liverpool logo was replaced with the old university crest just because the user preferred that crest to the new one.

This does not truly reflect the university as the old crest is no longer used at all - not on the website, degree certificate etc. I am a graduate of the university and therefore I'm aware of the old crest being entirely replaced.

The page was fine before a user replaced the new logo with the old crest.

Is somebody able to remove the old crest and move the new logo back up to the top which is a much more recognisable and clearer representation of the university?

Please visit www.liverpool.ac.uk for clarification.

Can anyone help please?

Thanks

86.31.99.61 (talk) 20:26, 7 August 2011 (UTC)