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December 5

WWE 13

I left an section on issues with WWE 13. why was it removed? The issues stated are verified issues from multiple source and from playing with the game. These glaring technical issues should be disclosed to the public, so people aren't being ripped off by a company that clearly engaged in fraudulent behavior.

Issues

The game is plagued with a number of game breaking issues. A patch was issued in November which did not fix the issue. THQ has been silent as to when a new patch will be available. As the games stands now it is unplayable, and it was falsely advertised. Most of the new features that THQ stated would be in the game does not work. Universe 3.0 does not work. The creation system that allows for custom tag teams and stables does not work, as the game will reset the stables back to default. Also please not that many have stated that the game will actually erase save data and will freeze prompting an manual reset. By doing this you run the risk of "bricking" your system. The custom belt editor does not work as belts do scale properly to created wrestlers, not to mention the games loses audio and the commentary and ring announcer cannot properly identify who is who and the will state that every wrestler is in a stable called the agents. THQ will not issues refunds so they have effectively stolen money from their consumers, engaged in consumer fraud, and they have engaged in false advertisement to bolster the sales of this very technically flawed product. No attempt has been made to rectify the new and legacy issues with this product. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.185.126 (talk) 00:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, Wikipedia works by proof, rather than truth. You need to use citations (proof) for your statement you wish to add. Preferably from reliable, authorative sources and be written neutrally.

Try looking at a controversial topic for examples. Thanks and good luck ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 00:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Problem editing Prinair Flight 191

I'm not sure what I did to cause this. I duplicated the procedure for editing the link to the first NTSB Report when trying to fix a dead link for the second NTSB Report. I've fixed quite a few bad links to NTSB Accident Reports with no problems. I tried to copy and past the error message but that didn't work. I wrote it down so I can give it to someone.

68.6.39.66 (talk) 00:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

In [1] you removed </ref> after the reference. I have fixed it. Each starting <ref> must be accompanied by an ending </ref>. Otherwise the software thinks the following text is part of the reference. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

military

i am trying to find illustrations of regimental cap badges british army where can i search — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.174.187 (talk) 00:58, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Cap badge might interest you. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 06:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Indigo etc

I am a user of pages in general ur pretty good but I am concerned about a few things. Writing that are value laden or hypocritical ie one sided arguments. Eg indigo section is very rude. I wanted a quick answer to what this indigo people represent and expected facts not bullying. This is not ok. Please take out ur subjectivity before its too late. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.241.175 (talk) 01:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Are you referring to the article Indigo? It's mainly about the color but mentions people in Indigo#Spiritualism. Or maybe you mean Indigo children or something else at Indigo (disambiguation)? PrimeHunter (talk) 03:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is very concerned that articles be neutral in tone. If you find an article that you think does not match this policy, the best thing to do is to open a discussion on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 11:26, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I believe the poster is one of those who feels that we should simply report the claims made about indigo children, without mentioning the fact that this is a pseudo-scientific fringe theory with no evidence to back it up, because that's rude. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:33, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

OP, if you want to find out what spiritual people believe, don't use Wikipedia. Try the rest of the internet. - filelakeshoe 13:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

About awarding barnstars

I am an auto confirmed user and have almost 1000 edits but feeling shy to say that I am almost zero in the knowledge of awarding barnstars. Can anyone describe me why,how a barnstar is awarded and who can award it?--pratyya (talk) 06:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

See also: WP:Barnstar

I will try to summarize:

1. A barnstar is given "to reward Wikipedia contributors for hard work and due diligence" (according to WP:Barnstar)
2. Go to a user's user page or talk page and click the red "heart" button at the top for a list of barnstars and other awards.
3. Anyone can award them.

If you feel that someone has done well in a particular area (editing, vandalism, photos, citations/references, etc.), don't be afraid to give them one! The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 06:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I assume that the red "heart" button of which you speak is another feature dependent on a user's preference settings? I don't see such a button. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:03, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes. See the documentation at mw:WikiLove#How to disable. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Status Template

Hello. I'm trying out a new status template-{{StatusTemplate}}, and I've added the required code from the documentation page, as well as purging and bypassing the cache. However, it does not seem to be working. The script is supposedly buggy, but I want a quick check before I give up. My .js page is at User:Thekillerpenguin/vector.js. Could someone do a quick check to see if I put the code in right? Thanks. Thekillerpenguin (talk) 06:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed I think I fixed it – check it out! The status subpage is supposed to hold a string like "online" and the template is supposed to be located on your user page. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 07:16, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Wow! It seems to work! I can't thank you enough. You deserve some cookies. Thekillerpenguin (talk) 23:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, it seems that the auto-update links do not work, but I'm fine with just manually pasting in the text. Thekillerpenguin (talk) 23:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

The script probably is not working anymore as it has not been edited since 2008. After all, the template says "Due to the bugginess of Henrik's automod script the auto update links may not work for long periods of time, if you know of a way to fix this issue it'd be most appreciated." Instead, I recommend that you install Qui. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 00:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I used to have exactly the same status template as Thekillerpenguin, and the script just doesn't work. I agree that either Qui or doing it manually is better. - a boat that can float! (watch me float) 04:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Website related article

Does wikipedia accept website as an article like this?--pratyya (talk) 08:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but only if the notability of the website is established by means of independent third party references. You can read the notability standards for websites here: Wikipedia:Notability (web). --Anbu121 (talk me) 09:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

everything looks distorted

Resolved

hello there! i logged in on monday morning to find that my editing toolbar is completely distorted. all the links are all over the place and it is very hard for me to continue editing in this manner. i use google chrome and i've tried to disable some of the tools i had activated months ago in my preferences, however i can't seem to get around it. has this happened to anyone before? i appreciate your help. i just want to keep working as i used to... FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

just saw the previous post! silly of me. thanks anyway! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:18, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Link to "Top"

Is there some way to link to 'Top' of a talk page? Since [[#footer|Skip to the bottom]] works, I hoped Top [[#header|Top]] might also — but it doesn't. ~Thanks (again), ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 16:42, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Try [[#top|Top of page]] → Top of page The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 16:45, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 16:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Life expectancy images

Please help, these two maps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Male_Life_Expectancy.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Female_Life_Expectancy.png

Use a color scheme that is VERY unfriendly to colorblind people. Could someone please use a non red-green color spectrum? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I could probably make the change myself, but I don't know what colour spectrum to use. I once altered the colours used on a site of my own, to make them more colour-blind friendly, following advice from a web site which claimed to specialise in this. Then a red-green colour-blind friend told me that I had made them slightly worse for him. Maproom (talk) 18:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I could not say about your web site as I do not know which colorblindness your friend has. Stick with a red-blue spectrum when in doubt. For these maps even greyscale would be easier to interpret actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 19:25, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Or you could use any single color (from light to dark of that one color) now that I think about it. That would also eliminate any confusion! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 19:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I have changed the male map from a red-green to a red-blue spectrum. Please let me know what you think. (To me, with normal colour vision, the new image is slightly less pleasing aesthetically, but perfectly easy to understand.) If you like what I've done, and no-one objects, I'll make the same change to the female map. Maproom (talk) 11:22, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

That looks great and is very easy to interpret now. Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 08:25, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Good − I've now done the same for the female map. Maproom (talk) 15:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Also if you are interested in a tip: a good rule of thumb is to desaturate graphs, charts, and maps to see if they are colorblind friendly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.66.241.46 (talk) 08:34, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

See WP:COLOR for various tools that analyse colour schemes for readability and also take into consideration most of the common colour blindness problems. Roger (talk) 10:07, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

World Extreme Skiing Championship

I'm trying to post and provide links to verify facts about the http://worldextremeskiingchampionships.com/ and the http://www.worldextremesnowboardingchampionships.com/index.html with facts. A user named Bonadea is deleteing the material and links that provide real history. why would Bonadea be permited to delete materials that verify what was put on wiki. One person view of history should not be permited when facts are provided. wiki is great when real history and facts are provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelcozad (talk • contribs) 17:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

He has as much right to delete the material as you have to add it. He has given his reason for deleting it, in his edit summary: he considers the material you have added to be "unsourced, promotional, unencyclopedic." I tend to agree. I suggest you rewrite the material you want to add, to make it less promotional. Maproom (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

You need to read Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:50, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Gadget problem related to UI

This problem started when the UI got messsed up this week. I've been unable to fix the gadget problem. I use the latest version of Firefox.

This is the gadget: "Add page and user options to drop-down menus on the toolbar." I use Vector. The first symptom was the words "Page" and "User" showed only halfway. Subsequently - and still now - the words don't show up at all. All I have are the down arrows. I tried unchecking the gadget. I cleared my cache, closed Firefox, reopened Firefox, and rechecked the gadget. The problem hasn't gone away.

If I should be posting this at the Pump, please let me know. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I was just reporting this. User talk:Haza-w/Drop-down menus#User and Page tab labels missing --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Ed, I didn't even know that page existed. I've put it on my watchlist.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:02, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Article Review Request

Since the article review process appears to be redirecting to here right now, I am posting this request here. If this is the wrong place, please tell me so I know for later. I would like feedback on User:Rarkenin/Minetest, if that is possible. Especially, I am concerned that the sources are not fully proper for Wikipedia, as well as whether software's source code can be used as a Wikipedia source. Thanks! Rarkenin (talk) 21:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

The biggest problem I see with this article is that it seems to lack notability. There are references, but nothing that establish that this program is of any significance. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I noticed that it has been mentioned on List of open source video games and List of OpenGL programs. Is it not supposed to be there, or does that make it notable for Wikipedia? Or is it an in-between where it should be listed but not described? 23:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rarkenin (talk • contribs)

The editors of that specific list could probably better establish if it should be included on the list; but in general, just because it is mentioned in a list doesn't mean that it should have its own article. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Chimney sweep -categorisation help and advice.

Hi, a number of fairly experienced editors have contributed to Chimney sweep which features the World's first recognised occupational disease and first legislation against child labour, either of which should make it a high importance article. Unbelievably it's languishing as a low importance household item yet we can't find anywhere to classify it -or to get the expert attention it deserves. It might need to be merged with Chimney sweeps' carcinoma and it needs more sources but it is a potential featured article. Please advise -and thanks in eager anticipation! JRPG (talk) 21:34, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

The importance category is designated by members of the related wikiproject. If you head over to the project talk page, they can help you out there. Each project has specific criteria for what indicates specific importance. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Will try there thanks. JRPG (talk) 22:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Display a user's contributions

Resolved

This is more a question about MediaWiki in general: Is there a magic word or similar which can display the number of contributions by any user that is entered as plain text? Thanks alot Xtreme2000 (talk) 21:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Please direct your question to the MediaWiki support page Tiggerjay (talk) 22:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

December 6

Jeffrey Boam

Jeffrey Boam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi, My name is Paula Boam and I was Jeffrey's wife. It is listed that Jeffrey died from a rare lung disease, he did not. He died from a very rare connective tissue disease, that affected all his organs. He suffered greatly in his last two years of life. Being hopitalized 32 times and in an amublace 17 times. He was never felt sorry for himself, he always tried to be the best at his work and be a great father, husband and friend. He is missed greatly. I just wanted to clear up that Jeffrey died from a connective tissue disease. Thanks for letting me clear this up. Paula Boam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.140.252 (talk) 00:11, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, and I am sorry for your loss. In order to change the page, it would be best if there was some reliable source that is publicly accessible so we can verify the information you provided, and then the appropriate edits could be made. There is a procedure called BE BOLD but your changed would likely be reversed because it would seem to be an unsourced change. Also, since you are personally connected to Jeffrey, I would recommend you avoid directly editing the article yourself, according to the conflict of interest policy. Tiggerjay (talk) 03:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

A Google search does not show that Boam died of a connective tissue disease. I searched other data bases and did not find how Boam died. If you have the specific name of the connective tissue disease that he died from, please post. That may help us locate a source to use in the Jeffrey Boam article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Lest the above comments seem insensitive: the problem is that on the Internet, anybody can claim to be anybody. We have no way of telling that you are indeed Paula Boam, so we have to go with published information, rather than what you tell us. I reiterate that if you can find a published source that says it was a connective tissue disease, that can go in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 14:42, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Towards the end of the article, the "rare lung disease" is indeed referenced as "Variety: 67. 2000-02-07". Unfortunatly, I don't have this issue (or any issue) of Variety magazine to check this. That said, this online page from Variety simply says the date on which he died; perhaps the article can just say that too. Astronaut (talk) 20:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I have just done exactly that.--ukexpat (talk) 20:40, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Great approach Ukexpat -- I also made a similar edit here since you fixed it in the personal life, but didn't catch it in the intro paragraph. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Non-free logo

The article that I'm working on mentions the elephant as the symbol of the US Republican party. Would this justify the use of the (non-free) logo? The policy states allowable usage for "critical commentary" - but I'm not sure if this would qualify. The Cultural depictions of elephants article discusses (or soon will) various usages of elephants as symbols on flags, etc., and the Rep. party is mentioned. Would this be justified usage? ~Eric F:74.60.29.141 (talk) 07:39, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Logo: File:Republicanlogo.svg

I'd say it probably wouldn't. Currently, the file is only being used on three articles, these articles only use the file in their infoboxes. Rationales for usage of non-free media in infoboxes can be far broader than rationales for usage of files in bodies of articles. It may be acceptable if the article you're working on discusses the logo in a way that the file would be needed for necessary additional visualization that the article cannot describe in text. Scarce2 (talk) 08:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the help desk. Fair use images are only allowed if there are no free alternatives. On Commons, there are multiple illustrations of elephants as symbols of the GOP that are free: File:JUDGE04B.JPG, File:HarmonyTaftRooseveltCannon.jpg, File:NastRepublicanElephant.jpg, file:Elephants on the windows at TampaBay Social Media Command Center.jpg, File:Bush Inauguration08.jpg. Perhaps that will work as a substitute?--xanchester (t) 08:18, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks - I'll see what I can do with one of those substitutes. ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 08:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Jon Ausman

My name is Jon Ausman and I am a Member of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) from Florida. Currently I am running for Chair of the Leon County Democratic Party. Earlier this year DarkChaos27, created a negative hit article about me. While I have changed it to a factual piece DarkChaos27 continues to change it daily.

His article of half-truth is defamatory and I am requesting that the page be frozen as is for the next eight days as edited by Ausman1953. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ausman

JonAusman1953 (talk) 12:11, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

• Please note that this page is up for deletion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon Ausman, and in my estimation will in all likelihood be deleted.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 13:51, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

link to a line within an article

I want to link directly to this line: An alternative to same-sex marriage – round 2

It appears inside this article: Jack Baker (activist)

What to do? Y6f&tP4z (talk) 16:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

You can link to the section using an anchor, see WP:ANCHOR. I am going to change the section headings in the article to simplify them per WP:MOSHEAD. Anchors work even if the section title is subsequently changed, provided that the anchor code is not deleted.--ukexpat (talk) 16:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion: Pop-up boxed when hovering over links

Not sure if this is the appropriate place, but would be cool to have a box with abbreviation page info appear when hovering over a link. Could at the very least be an option users turn off/on — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.204.56.15 (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Registered users can enable a gadget that does exactly that - one of the many benefits of creating an account.--ukexpat (talk) 20:37, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Just to expand on what Ukexpat said, the feature is known as Navigation popups. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 20:45, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

IP users - new messages on talk page

Do IP users get a "you have new messages" if they come back to Wikipedia and there are new messages on their talk page (the way registered users get notified)? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 22:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, they do. But keep in mind that they might not be on the same IP address. The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 22:07, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

thank you. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 23:36, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

my birthday and place of birth

tried to correct at least my birthday and place of birth, and accurate birth name. (btw, i am not married.)

don't know where you get this info on me, but it would help if i could at least correct inaccurate info, especially since you list enough junk that someone tried to scam my identity, which is how i came about your site and what you are listing. guess inaccurate info worked to catch them, but doesn't do much for my reputation before strangers. (PS: some of info on this page also violate copyrights because it was taken directly from my autobiography, which publishing rights belong to simon/schuster.)216.15.21.7 (talk) 22:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Who are you (or rather, who do you claim to be)?

Also, you should be aware that there is never any copyright in facts. Facts are just that, and cannot be copyrighted just by being written down (as your publisher would tell you if you asked). --Orange Mike | Talk 22:28, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Comment: The user has only made edits to Star Parker. Keri (talk) 22:43, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

December 7

Edit

HI i want to edit a articular but there's no edit button or rating thing. Can you help, Spidershift — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spidershift (talk • contribs) 00:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I need help editing a page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spidershift (talk • contribs) 00:25, 7 December 2012 (UTC) i want to edit an artical — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spidershift (talk • contribs) 00:28, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

What specific page? CTF83! 00:29, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

If instead of edit, it says view source then that specific page has been protected, see WP:PP. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Convert function

I was editing Blue Moon (beer) and after saving my edits I noticed (Expression error: Division by zero kJ/L)in bright red when I saved the page. Worried that I had somehow clicked something and done it myself, I looked into this and discovered that something was set wrong initially. I tried a few things with preview to fix it and none of them worked. I then looked around the Help Desk for a bit and couldn't find the Convert function anywhere.

Where is the convert function information? Autkm (talk) 01:07, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Recent changes to MediaWiki. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Malicious alteration of article on "Butch Jones"

I noticed obvious bogus changes on the following page and then observed additional changes of the same type while I was on the pageTherapyCat (talk)TherapyCat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Jones — Preceding unsigned comment added by TherapyCat (talk • contribs) 03:59, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Can you provide more specific information, it appears there was various acts of vandalism against that page which have been reversed, see this edit. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Editing a location template

With the recent updates to MediaWiki that cause malformed {{coord}} templates to produce errors, our longstanding {{Location map USA Alaska}} template is messed up; according to the display, it's centered at more than 200ºE, which isn't possible because numbers only go up to 180º. Looking at the code, I'm guessing that the map centering is caused by the

| y = (100*({{{2}}} - 72)/(51 - 72))
| x = (100*(({{{3}}} + ({{{3}}} < 0)*360) - 172)/((-129 + 360) - 172))

code, but I'm not sure how to change it to work properly. Could you please suggest changes? Note that it's fully protected, but since I'm an admin I'll be able to implement any changes that you can suggest. Nyttend (talk) 04:56, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Fok_it

There is a Finnish newspaper comic strip called Fok_it with an underscore. Now Wikipedia seems to consider spaces and underscores as equal in article titles. If I were to write an article about it, would the title appear as "Fok it"? Would this be a problem? JIP | Talk 05:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

The page would have to be called "Fok it", but you can change the appearance of the title by adding {{DISPLAYTITLE:Fok_it}} anywhere on the page (preferably at the top). The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 05:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Query about Wikipedia search box

How does the Wikipedia search box determine which articles should be suggested first? Eg. the first suggestion for 'A' is 'Animal'. Till 11:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

• If you compare the Pageview statistics for Animal with (for example) those for Actor, you'll see that Animal is far more popular (so far more likely to be what you are looking for). So the order of search box suggestions (that the "autosuggest" functions display) is surely based on the relative popularity of articles whose titles match what you have typed so far. LittleBen (talk) 11:17, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I thought that too, until I started expanding stubs and the pages appeared more early in the search suggestion. Till 11:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

• My explanation was a bit simplistic, because Anime was more popular over the last 30 days than Animal, but you can see that items are roughly ordered based on popularity: maybe the popularity index used for autosuggest was last updated several months ago. Maybe other criteria are also taken into account: with Google, for example, it seems that autosuggest may also be partially based on your past search history if you are logged in.
• It seems that the Page Index is updated on a daily basis, so maybe the popularity ordering also varies on a daily basis. HTH (Hope This Helps). LittleBen (talk) 11:45, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Currency

Hi, i need the currency template for the Argentine peso but cannot find it. I know it will look something like this: {{currency|11,495|GBP}}. Can someone point it out to me? Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 11:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

ARS? AR$11,495

ISO_4217#Active_codes CTF83! 11:36, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh that's champion CTF83! Thank you very much ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 12:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Div tags

Is there a way to put some text in a <div> tag without creating a line break? -- ypnypn (talk) 15:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

If you don't want a line break you should be using a <span> tag instead, I think. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:47, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, it worked. -- ypnypn (talk) 17:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

[2]. Deor (talk) 22:33, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Bad links

Hi, I spent 7 hours drafting an article yesterday and included around 30 links that were fine yesterday. I've gone back in today to continue editing and none of them work, it simply says 'bad title'.

Please can you help or point me in the right direction, I've spent a lot of time on this.

Alec Zoonvansnook (talk) 15:37, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

They don't work because the syntax is incorrect. When linking to a wikipedia page you should use the format [[TARGET PAGE TITLE|What I want to call it]] and for external links [targeturl(SPACE)Title of target]. Keri (talk) 15:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

If you are the subject of the draft (User:Zoonvansnook/sandbox), please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. And please also read WP:OVERLINK and WP:External links for additional guidance on internal and external links.--ukexpat (talk) 15:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Help with WebCite archiving

Hi, I wondered if someone could have a go at archiving this link with WebCite. I've just made several attempts to do it myself, but keep getting an error message, like this one. I don't usually have problems with it, and have archived a couple of things successfully today, so I'm not sure what's going on. Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Done.--ukexpat (talk) 17:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, not quite sure what went wrong for me. Paul MacDermott (talk) 17:36, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

citations and resources

I'm in the middle of putting together a new article. My sandbox is looking good. Where do I add my resource list and how do I use the citation tab? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShefAdam (talk • contribs) 17:40, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

In the place you want the link to the footnote to appear (like this:), type the following: <ref>your source</ref>. Then, at the bottom of the page, add a section called "References", and type the following: {{Reflist}}. After you save the page, your source will appear in the References section. -- ypnypn (talk) 17:52, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Alternatively take a look at WP:Referencing for beginners.--ukexpat (talk) 19:16, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Deleting a Sandbox article and creating a new Sandbox

Can anyone help advise me on the following difficulty? I created a Sandbox article and then moved it to Wikipedia. Today I wanted to start a new article, went to the Sandbox (or so I thought), did not know how to delete the article that had been moved, and promptly started the new article while leaving the old title in place. Later, to my horror, I discovered that the new draft had somehow replaced the 'live' article that I believed I had moved out of the Sandbox. I've reverted so that the damage is now undone. However, I still have the problem as first stated. How do I delete this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kim_Traynor/sandbox so that it no longer appears in my Sandbox; and how do I start a new article in the Sandbox once I've done that? Also, is there any way of deleting the crazy edits from the new draft now appearing on the viewhistory page of the live article? Does the Sandbox space become immediately available as a blank space following deletion? Any advice would be much appreciated, even if it's only to tell me where to look for the proper instructions which I haven;t been able to find yet. Kim Traynor (talk) 18:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Your confusion came because on moving your sandbox to article space the sandbox was left with a redirect to the article in mainspace. Hence when you went into your sandbox again you began to edit the article in mainspace. i have now replaced the sandbox redirect by just a link, so now you can go into the sandbox and replace it by whatever you want next. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:40, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

If you find yourself in the same situation again in future, when you get redirected you'll see a note at the top of the article saying that you've got there via a redirect. A blue link there will get you back to the redirect page and let you edit there. See WP:Redirect. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

That's fantastic, David. Thanks for your very prompt and clear explanation and help in returning the Sandbox back to virgin territory. I'll copy and paste your explanation for future reference. I edit a lot on Wikipedia, but I still don't understand its various mechanisms and am never sure how to look anything up when seeking guidance. I appreciate what you've done for me. Kim Traynor (talk) 20:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Display problem with bullet followed by an indent

Resolved

Consider the following hypothetical discussion;

• A

B

• C

When I scroll away and come back to this, I can see a second bullet (infront of C). But on the instant I click on somewhere within the page to place the cursor, it disappears. Am I the only being being able to see this phenomenon? (This was first observed on viewing the section Wikipedia:HIGH#Wikipedia:Five-million pool (2050 or later))···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 19:33, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I see it too. When I go to another tab and come back, it disappears. Popcornduff (talk) 19:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I see it as well. Sort of cool, but needs to be fixed...Naraht (talk) 20:07, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

I see it too. But I fail to see how this is a problem, considering you should never use such badly formatted lists. — Edokter (talk) — 20:07, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

It is very interesting to watch this. So a wikipedian might waste time by playing with this instead of doing some constructive works (but this is not as entertaining as hovering mouse over the here^[1] :)···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 21:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

If it's that big a problem, Bugzilla is thisaway...--ukexpat (talk) 21:27, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Is this a WP problem or a browser problem? RJFJR (talk) 21:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Just to mention, this effect can be produced more easily by pressing the scroll button of your mouse, if present. (I don't have a bugzilla account!)···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 21:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Is this browser-specific? I don't see a second bullet under any conditions in Firefox 17.0.1.--ukexpat (talk) 21:44, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I cannot see this effect on Fitefox 16.0.2, but strangely, two bullets are there. The difference is that it would not disappear on clicking. However on Google chrome 23.0.1271.95 m, the effect is still there. Hence the problem is now resolved (I must have looked for this before starting the comment!)···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 22:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

username change

Hey, I started setting up my wikipedia page "MarioButterfield" and noticed that I forgot to put a space inbetween Mario & Butterfield... How can I make that change? Or can you make it for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioButterfield (talk • contribs) 19:49, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

See [[WP:UNC]. You can apply to have it changed, but given that you've only made two edits, this request and a edit that has been revered on your userpage, it is easier for you to simply create an account under the new name and simply forget about the old one.Naraht (talk) 20:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

And please note the following point listed there at Wikipedia:Changing username,

• Using your real name as a username may put you at risk of harassment.

We hope this helps and would like to hear from you. Thank you.···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 20:19, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Billion

Which billion is used in WP? 1x10^9 or 1x10^12? 3|9|3|0|K (talk) 20:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

10^9. WP:ORDINAL. Cheers. Doniago (talk) 20:44, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

December 8

Clearing a cite error message.

I have been working on a page 'Balinese Textiles'. Noe I have a cite error message.

I have followed the instructions in the help desk to put ==References== {{Reflist}} but the message still appears. Am I missing something? Chris Hazzard (talk) 00:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I fixed it on the page. You were missing </gallery> CTF83! 01:00, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Editing Silurian page

I'm in a class and I have to Update a Wiki page and I choose Silurian. I'm having issues with getting citations to work within the edit. I have a word document and my sandbox pageUser:Boyd7854/sandbox if anyone would like to help.

This is a add-on to the climate and sea level part. Boyd7854 (talk) 04:50, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Boyd7854

Have you read Referencing for Beginners? If not, it should help you get on the right track. RudolfRed (talk) 04:19, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

There is still a couple issues. Haven't been able to add multiple sources. As well as the in the references tab it would only say the ref name instead of the actual citation. Boyd7854 (talk) 04:50, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Boyd7854

You haven't used any ref tags that I can see. You need to put your references into <ref> </ref> tags and not brackets like [7]. The wikicode will put in the footnote numbers for you. RudolfRed (talk) 05:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

To elaborate a little, you need to put all your sources inside ref tags where you want the footnote to go, and then at the end use {{Reflist}} and it will generate the reference list. RudolfRed (talk) 05:15, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

It is working better though I'm getting duplicate sources down below.. (not including the references page keeping those for easy copy and paste. when I add figures which looks even more of a pain) Boyd7854 (talk) 06:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Boyd7854

I worked on your sandbox and left you a message there. Not quite sure how you get a sandbox and no user page though. John of Cromer in China (talk) mytime= Sat 22:09, wikitime= 14:09, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Johnmperry. I just didn't set up the user page yet. Boyd7854 (talk) 18:16, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Boyd7854

Emailing a page

how do i email a page to someone ? tks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.84.205 (talk) 04:31, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

If you want to mail a copy of the article as an attachment you can use the "Print/export" function in the menu on the left of the page to create a PDF document, alternatively you can simply copy the page url from your browser address. Roger (talk) 08:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Problem with (sandbox) relative linking?

I have two subpages below my sand box, /a and /b. I can get to /b from /a by writing {{../b|params..}} but when I try to transclude /a from my sandbox, as {{/a|params..}} it then tries to access b as user/b not user/sandbox/b

Or am I doing something wrong? Alternatively, is there an easy way of removing [ and ] from a string, i.e. "unlinking", which is what I really want to do? John of Cromer in China (talk) mytime= Sat 14:21, wikitime= 06:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Subpage links are evaluated in the context of the page being rendered, not the page on which the link was keyed. So you will have to use the full page name when transcluding those subpages, and not use the ".." abbreviation.

I don't know how to remove characters from a string, but I do know that string handling is notoriously inefficient here. I recommend that you undo your changes to the Runway article, and instead create a separate template containing a "#switch" statement that outputs the exact text you want. Then the article text will be easy for other editors to understand, and the template coding will be much simpler as well. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Is there a guideline on religion?

Is there a wp guideline that says that wp:notability is determined through adherents statistics? I'm asking coz an editor contantly uses this excuse when deleting mention of some religions. (diff), (diff]), (diff). Pass a Method talk 07:58, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Notability depends on the existence of acceptable sources - Period. Roger (talk) 08:16, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

You linked to wp:notability which is about having its own article. None of your diffs are about that. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Good work for bolding editing those pages, however, as in that process, someone reverted your edits. That is fine as well, it simply prompts a discussion to take place on the appropriate talk page of that article before reintroducing that idea/concept. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:17, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Rollback request

Could someone please roll back an IP editor's recent edits to determination of the day of the week? Pokajanje|Talk 19:06, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

There are several different IPs that have edited that article recently. Can you be more specific about the edits you're concerned about? And why not just undo the edit yourself? RudolfRed (talk) 20:03, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Also, this appears to be a content dispute; why not discuss changes on the article's talk page? Keri (talk) 20:30, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

closing an AfD I opened

I would like to close an AfD discussion that I opened. At this time the only other editor has voted Keep and he's convinced me. The AfD is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Levon Pashabezyan. I'd appreciate any help or instructions you can give me. Papaursa (talk) 22:42, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

You can withdraw your nomination and see WP:KEEP Tiggerjay (talk) 06:17, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Referencing

Can anyone advise me how to avoid multiple repeats of the same reference appearing in an article's Reference list? I can see from previous articles I've done that either an automatic bot or a very kind person has employed a method which I've attempted to clone but without success. My efforts result in invalid displays showing up in red. What's the secret? The list I am trying to amend occurs on the page Leith Links. Kim Traynor (talk) 00:49, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

You can use <ref name="name">reference</ref> for the first occurrence. For any subsequent occurrences you can use: <ref name="name"/>. Jarkeld (talk) 00:57, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

If you want everything including a possible page number to be identical then see WP:NAMEDREFS. If you want to change page numbers then see Help:Footnotes#Citing one book repeatedly with different page numbers and Help:References and page numbers for options. If you still have problems then post a link to an attempt so we can see what is wrong. You can revert it or save it at User:Kim Traynor/sandbox if you don't want to leave an article with a formatting error. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you look at what I did for another user just a few sections up this page - Editing Silurian page, and its talk page. I don't suppose s/he'll mind.

I'll look at yours later - maybe you just have a few typos stopping it working.

John of Cromer in China (talk) mytime= Sun 09:13, wikitime= 01:13, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

JWoww's birthday

Hi there. I'm a fan of Jersey Shore, and out of curiosity I was looking up there birthdays on your site. I then came across this video on youtube, which states directly from JWoww herself that she was born in 1985, not 86. Here is the link below to cross refernce. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee1C5FB3ceo&feature=fvwp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.76.16.164 (talk) 01:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know her but http://jwoww.com/custom/about at her official website says "born on February 27, 1986". Our article JWoww says the same. The person in the Youtube video is drinking and starts by saying "by the time I walk out I'm drunk". At 1m13s she talks about "a Land Before Time dinosaur that came out in 1985 the year I was born". The Land Before Time actually came out in 1988. We should prefer a written statement at the official website over a possibly drunken interview talking about something else and mentioning an alleged birth year in passing while saying another clearly incorrect year. All other sources I have seen also say February 27, 1986. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:12, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Purchase of jeans

I purchase my jeans at vanity because of my unique size...But in the last year i purchased three pair of jeans and the buttons have come off of all of them...im not a heavy person but am very discouraged...your employees said i cant do any thing about it it if its past thirty days but i do not think this is right...I need to speak with someone one so they can see im not b.s.ing...im a size six with longg legs...please reespond and be respecctful...thank you..carl...[phone number redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.89.133 (talk) 02:58, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 PrimeHunter (talk) 03:01, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

General image questions

I have a some questions relating to image uploads and couldn't find an appropriate help forum, so please refer me elsewhere if this is not the proper place for these questions:

• Which is preferable for uploading: good-quality, medium-resolution images -or- very-high quality (big files)?
• Is there a preferred image format for high-quality images?
• Often, the high-resolution images on WP have smaller versions available; should I create smaller versions, or is that something that is done automatically?

This relates to a high-resolution TIFF (57.3 Meg) that I downloaded from Library of Congress. This image included handy templates for histogram and temperature optimization. From this, I have derived a high-quality image, and can make copies in just about any size or format. - I will inquire elsewhere regarding uploading / copyright, etc. (This 19th C. print image is potentially useful for the article I have been collaborating on - if interested, details from source: http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2004666374/) ~ Thanks once more for your assistance, and for allowing me to be annoying ;) ~E 74.60.29.141 (talk) 05:22, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Images used in Wikipedia can be uploaded to either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. Non-free images should be at Wikipedia and then WP:Image resolution applies. Free images are usually best to upload to Commons, and often transferred to there if the uploader chose Wikipedia. Some relevant links: commons:Commons:Maximum file size, commons:Commons:Why we need high resolution media, commons:Commons:File types#Size and scaling, commons:Commons:File types#TIFF, and commons:Commons:Help desk for asking questions. A page using an image will usually specify the display size and then our software automatically scales it. The file page often has links to different resolutions right below the image and these are also automatically made. If you mean cases where there are two similar images with different file names on their respective file pages then they are created and uploaded manually, but this is rare. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:24, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll check out your links. ~Eric F:74.60.29.141 (talk) 08:05, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Pedro the Spanish Speaking, Singing, Horse Riding Monkey

• Pedro is a monkey (not a scary one either)
• Pedro speaks Spanish (it is his native tongue)
• Pedro can sing (quite well)
• Pedro knows how to ride a horse (enough said)

Pedro was born on January 1, 1999 in Chihuahua, Mexico (a real place). His parents were two very well known circus performers who traveled many Mexican cities bringing joy to young and old. When Pedro was born (on New Years Day), his parents knew he was going to be special. His first words were (well, very hard for you and I to understand) equivelant to the Spanish word of "Fiesta" or "Party." He knew in his heart that he would one day become the life of the party, any party really, because how many monkeys do you know that learned how to sing and ride a horse? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cf.harding (talk • contribs) 07:05, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your post, however is there a question for the helpdesk? Tiggerjay (talk) 07:31, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

How to fix problem on main page

I posted about a problem with a quote on the main page in the main page errors. I posted about 4 hours ago. Nothing has happened.

Are main page errors corrected? If not, please don't tell people to post about them, just tell people to ignore them.

Is wikipedia an encyclopedia or what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.131.23 (talk) 07:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I cannot locate the error you reported at Talk:Main_Page. Can you describe the problem you are seeing? Tiggerjay (talk) 07:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.131.23 (talk) 07:51, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

As you might have noticed, it was removed 5 minutes ago. It does appear that the main page had some incorrectly synthesized data, but since it is no longer active, I believe the point is moot. Tiggerjay (talk) 08:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I just learned that errors on the main page are ignored since there are only there for a few hours. Nice going wikiepdia. It's no wonder the experts don't edit.

However, the article is probably all wrong. The author incorrectly synthesized the information from the one source, attached other information to the source that is not in the article, and did not understand what the reference was saying in the first place. It is not the appropriate reference for this particular article.

I looked at one other reference used by the author in that article, and the little I reviewed is used incorrectly also. The article should probably be deleted.

However, now that I know wikipedia just puts anything into articles whether it is right or wrong and doesn't allow them to be corrected, I assume this information will just stay there and become part of the google wikipedia archive of nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.131.23 (talk) 08:17, 9 December 2012 (UTC)