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July 7

Political bias

I am really sad to read that this company I had respected does edits for Kamala Harris , removing negativity and adding nice things !! That’s just WRONG. I will no longer donate or trust your information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:2590:8400:65B1:FF5D:ACFC:3E93 (talk) 01:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a volunteer project, not a company. Any edits to Kamala Harris are made by individual volunteers, not by a company. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

See section #keep scrubbing kamala harris Wikipedia profil above. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

IDK

Hello,

As I was researching about the g-mail software I came to a page in Wiki titled: INBOX In the opening it says Google got rid of their Inbox in 2019. I do not think this is true. I use my Inbox in my G-mail every day. I do not know. Do you? If so, can you take that last sentence off? Is that something a citizen like me would do? Does one need credentials or just to read the FAQ and learn how to do it themselves? At the moment I don't have time but in the future, I would be willing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:C303:BA00:1DEF:9977:6871:3F36 (talk) 02:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. The place to discuss this is on the article's talk page, Talk:Inbox by Gmail. But it seems to me that this is not talking about the inbox that every gmail user has, but a specific service called Inbox by Gmail. --ColinFine (talk) 08:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Ban Ogoi

proposed article content

Bold textOrigin of Ban Ogoi Ban Ogoi is an electoral ward 10 in Tai LGA, Rivers State, Nigeria. The main language of Ban Ogoi people is Ban but also Khana, Eleme, Gokana, Igbo and Akwa Ibom languages. The crisis at Gold Coast between the 12th and 13th century led to the emigration of three brothers namely Khana (perhaps Ghana but differed by pronunciation), Eleme and Gbene Tutu through the sea to a safe location in the rich mangrove area of Niger Delta. Gbene Tutu settled at Ban Tutu, the foremost name of Ban Ogoi. The word Ban is translated as I have arrived at a safe place. The Ogoi which was later replaced Tutu, the founder of Ban Ogoi is translated as hide me or I am hiding. Literally, Gbene Tutu was shielding himself from crisis. These three brothers were later referred to by the Igbanis as Igonibo – strangers; when some early sojourners arrived at the shore and found their lights burning in the hinterland. That word Igonibo was later coined to Ogoni and that name is not acceptable to the Ban Ogoi people. The Ban Ogois refers to the Igbanis as Bani - beggars. History has it that the Igbanis would ask the Khana, Eleme and Gbene Tutus for food in the ancient times since their main occupation was crop cultivation. Gbene Tutu had seven sons which later resulted in the formation of seven mini-communities but later there was a formation of the eighth mini-community. These eight (8) communities that make up Ban Ogoi Clan are: 1. Bala Ban 2. Kuete 3. Ngoro 4. Bolo 5. Waala 6. Ngbuagbo 7. Bali 8. Muolu Muolu community was said to have been founded by an indigene of Kuete community who moved to that part of Ban Ogoi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonungw (talk • contribs) 06:26, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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Origin of Ban Ogoi Ban Ogoi is an electoral ward 10 in Tai LGA, Rivers State, Nigeria. The main language of Ban Ogoi people is Ban but also Khana, Eleme, Gokana, Igbo and Akwa Ibom languages. The crisis at Gold Coast between the 12th and 13th century led to the emigration of three brothers namely Khana (perhaps Ghana but differed by pronunciation), Eleme and Gbene Tutu through the sea to a safe location in the rich mangrove area of Niger Delta. Gbene Tutu settled at Ban Tutu, the foremost name of Ban Ogoi. The word Ban is translated as I have arrived at a safe place. The Ogoi which was later replaced Tutu, the founder of Ban Ogoi is translated as hide me or I am hiding. Literally, Gbene Tutu was shielding himself from crisis. These three brothers were later referred to by the Igbanis as Igonibo – strangers; when some early sojourners arrived at the shore and found their lights burning in the hinterland. That word Igonibo was later coined to Ogoni and that name is not acceptable to the Ban Ogoi people. The Ban Ogois refers to the Igbanis as Bani - beggars. History has it that the Igbanis would ask the Khana, Eleme and Gbene Tutus for food in the ancient times since their main occupation was crop cultivation. Gbene Tutu had seven sons which later resulted in the formation of seven mini-communities but later there was a formation of the eighth mini-community. These eight (8) communities that make up Ban Ogoi Clan are: 1. Bala Ban 2. Kuete 3. Ngoro 4. Bolo 5. Waala 6. Ngbuagbo 7. Bali 8. Muolu Muolu community was said to have been founded by an indigene of Kuete community who moved to that part of Ban Ogoi.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonungw (talk • contribs) 06:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Sonungw: It appears that you wish to create a new Wikipedia article. Please read WP:YFA to learn how to create a draft article and submit it. If you have questions about the process, please come back here to ask for help. -Arch dude (talk) 15:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Misleading content

how can i raise my voice against a misleading content on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4063:2285:B4:6199:AAC4:CF15:1F22 (talk) 07:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, you should raise any issues at the talk page of the article concerned; you will find a link to the talk page top left of the article. You can also request edits (if you do not want to do this yourself) at the talk page. Please see Template:Request edit for how to do this. You will need to provide reliable sources to corroborate your information and (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

how to create new page

i dont have the knowledge in creating the page by my name for bibliography

how to start

send me the guide line — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sudhakalyan317 (talk • contribs) 07:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Sudhakalyan317: Wikipedia doesn't have mere pages, Wikipedia has articles on notable subjects. Note that nobody "owns" a Wikipedia page and there are good reasons why you may not want to have one. If you are still sure you want to proceed, you can start at WP:YFA. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:50, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Helping out on English Wikipedia

Hello, I'm an administrator and an interface administrator over at Persian Wikipedia. Recently, I have been interested in getting involved with the EnWiki community but I'm not quite sure where to start. I've followed a few links linking to "Where you can help" pages but I didn't find much that I can be helpful with. As Persian Wikipedia mostly used technical and patrolling help. Where do you think I can be helpful in this community? contest-wise or technical, etc. Mohammad 08:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Proficiency in both Persian and English is a rarity here, and so your help in related areas might be particularly welcome. You might look for requests at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Iran for help on Iran-related (or Persian-language) matters. -- Hoary (talk) 12:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

How to choose picture for article?

If a celebrity has more than one picture on Wikimedia Commons, then how to decide which picture will be most suitable for Infobox of that celebrity?? Should it be the most recent image of that celebrity?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 08:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello Pritam Shaw! Some guidance at MOS:LEADIMAGE, but it's often quite subjective. Reasonably new (unless were talking like Greta Garbo/peak of career stuff), recognizable, looking somewhat towards camera, not making a funny face. Discuss if necessary, often it's no big deal, sometimes it is (Talk:Greta_Thunberg#Picture_change). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:56, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

In Sidharth Shukla, the lead image is more than 4 years old and the celebrity does not looks that slim now like he is in the lead image (thumb), and I suggest that thumb is a better alternative as this image is hardly 5 months old when he won a reality competition. Could you please decide which one is better?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 10:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

IMO, the BB one is slightly better. Be WP:BOLD and see what happens. However, I would also recommend cropping it so it becomes more like the image at Daniel Craig (more head and shoulders). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Could you please fix the image on Siddharth Shukla, as I am unable to pass through the legal proceedings i.e. the copyright and all in Wikimedia Commons. Thankyou for the Cooperation. Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 13:57, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Geumho River

When I searched for "Geumho River," I was not directed to the article. Instead, I got a list of unrelated suggestions. I tried this three times. Yet, a Geumho River article exists. I was able to get to it by going to the article List of Rivers of Korea. I don't understand. Also, List of Rivers of Korea comes up red in my preview, whereas Geumho River comes up blue (I am using Chrome on Windows 7).Kdammers (talk) 09:05, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

• I see, it is the capitalization of 'Rivers' that makes the link red. But shouldn't linking on it at least suggest that a variant exists instead of telling me that I can create such a page? Kdammers (talk) 09:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Geumho River, Geumho river. I wonder if a redirect for the second form is warranted. Maproom (talk) 09:26, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

comics

why doesn't wikipedia have comics or even wikisourse doesn't have comics why is that so???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.150.148 (talk) 11:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Try Category:Comics. -- Hoary (talk) 12:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Is there a more efficient way to add species common names?

Hello! I'm a fairly new Wikipedia user and I've been updating/creating Wikipedia articles for species to include the standardized common names developed by a national working group in Canada. The process is really slow considering that I've got thousands of species to get through and a lot of the species don't already have Wikipedia pages. I'm wondering if there's another way to accomplish this task that's less labour intensive. For example, is it possible to add the common names to a species list page? Thanks in advance! --VioletBrew (talk) 13:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

VioletBrew, if you haven't tried asking at places like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Insects someone there may have a good idea. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, thank you for your suggestion! As you suggested, I've made a post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Insects. VioletBrew (talk) 14:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Request to edit article/s to remove unnecessary and misleading information.

Hi Im new to Wikipedia and want to do a few edits, I work for the agency which represents Jazz_(company) and I want to remove some unnecessary and outdated information from the articles Jazz, Mobilink, Warid_Pakistan and Warid_Telecom. Looking for help to discuss this so I can proceed with the changes without violating any rules. Talhatauqeer (talk) 13:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

• Talhatauqeer, the first thing is probably this, read WP:COI and particularly WP:DECLARE. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 13:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
• Simply scrapping a whole bunch of stuff like you did here is just not helpful. Information in the past tense is still information. Drmies (talk) 13:31, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Talhatauqeer, historical information is the most important for Wikipedia. We are far more interested in the history of a company (or any other subject) than the "latest news". In fact the "latest news" is frequently no more than thinly disguised promotion, which is forbidden on Wikipedia. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Johnson v Zerbst

apparently an alternative content for an article?

Johnson v. Zerbst Supreme Court of the United States Johnson v. Zerbst Reference: 304 U.S. 458 Term: 1937 Important Dates Argued: April 4, 1938 Decided: May 23, 1938 Majority Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes • Hugo Black • Louis Brandeis • Owen Roberts • Harlan Fiske Stone Concurring Stanley Reed Dissenting Pierce Butler • James C. McReynolds Johnson v. Zerbst was decided on May 23, 1938, by the U.S. Supreme Court. The case is famous for the court's expansion of the Sixth Amendment right to counsel to indigent defendants in all federal criminal trials, unless a knowing, intelligent, and competent waiver of counsel is evidenced. Prior to the court's opinion in Johnson, federal criminal courts appointed "counsel in most cases based on the judge’s discretion. But here, the Court construed the Sixth Amendment guarantee of counsel to mean that, in federal courts, counsel must be provided for defendants unable to employ counsel in all trials."[1] Questions presented: Does the Sixth Amendment require a mandatory appointment of counsel in all federal criminal cases or is that appointment subject to judicial discretion in the absence of a waiver? Case background On November 21, 1934, John Johnson and an accomplice were arrested in Charleston, South Carolina. The pair were charged with "feloniously uttering and passing four counterfeit twenty-dollar Federal Reserve notes and possessing twenty-one such notes." At the time, both were enlisted in the United States Marine Corps on leave. They were detained but were unable to post bail. On January 21, 1935, both men were indicted. Though the court record indicated that both men were represented by counsel in preliminary hearings prior to being bound over to grand jury, the defendants were not able to pay for counsel at trial. At their arraignment on January 23, 1935, in which they plead not guilty, the defendants were asked by the judge if they had counsel. The defendants said that they did not have counsel, but when asked by the judge if they were ready to proceed to trial, the defendants said they were. After their arraignment, the defendants were tried, convicted, and sentenced to four and a half years in federal prison on January 23, 1935. During the course of his incarceration, Johnson filed a petition for habeas relief in U.S. District Court arguing that his uncounseled conviction violated his Sixth Amendment right to counsel. At his habeas hearing, Johnson provided evidence that a request for counsel was made not to the trial judge, but to the district attorney, who informed Johnson that the state of South Carolina provided counsel to indigent defendants only in instances where the defendant was charged with a capital felony; the district attorney, however, denied that Johnson and his accomplice had either requested counsel or that the district attorney informed them they did not have a right to counsel. The judge presiding over the hearing also acknowledged that Johnson and his accomplice "asked the jailer to call a lawyer for them, but they were not permitted to contact one. They did not, however, undertake to get any message to the judge." The habeas hearing record also indicated that after Johnson and his accomplice arrived at the penitentiary on January 25, 1935, "they were placed in isolation and so kept for sixteen days without being permitted to communicate with any one except the officers of the institution, but they did see the officers daily. They were no [sic] request of the officers to be permitted to see a lawyer, nor did they ask the officers to present to the trial judge a motion for new trial or application for appeal or notice that they desired to move for a new trial or to take an appeal. On May 15, 1935, petitioners filed applications for appeal which were denied because filed too late" because the time for filing a motion for new trial and for taking an appeal was limited to three to five days. The district court denied Johnson's habeas petition. Upon review, the Fifth Circuit affirmed the district court's ruling.[2] Oral argument Oral argument was held on April 4, 1938.[2] Decision The decision was reversed and remanded to the district court for further proceedings.[2] Opinion Justice Hugo Black delivered the opinion for five of the six justices in the majority. Justice Black began his opinion with a discussion of the importance and necessity of counsel, particularly to the pro se defendant, and his reasons as to why federal courts cannot limit the right:[2] “ The Sixth Amendment stands as a constant admonition that if the constitutional safeguards it provides be lost, justice will not 'still be done.' It embodies a realistic recognition of the obvious truth that the average defendant does not have the professional legal skill to protect himself when brought before a tribunal with power to take his life or liberty, wherein the prosecution is presented by experienced and learned counsel. That which is simple, orderly, and necessary to the lawyer-to the untrained layman-may appear intricate, complex, and mysterious. Consistently with the wise policy of the Sixth Amendment and other parts of our fundamental charter, this Court has pointed to '... the humane policy of the modern criminal law ...' which now provides that a defendant '... if he be poor, ... may have counsel furnished him by the state, ... not infrequently ... more able than the attorney for the state.' The '... right to be heard would be, in many cases, of little avail if it did not comprehend the right to be heard by counsel. Even the intelligent and educated layman has small and sometimes no skill in the science of law. If charged with crime, he is incapable, generally, of determining for himself wheter the indictment is good or bad. He is unfamiliar with the rules of evidence. Left without the aid of counsel he may be put on trial without a proper charge, and convicted upon incompetent evidence, or evidence irrelevant to the issue or otherwise inadmissible. He lacks both the skill and knowledge adequately to prepare his defence, even though he have a perfect one. He requires the guiding hand of counsel at every step in the proceedings against him.' The Sixth Amendment withholds from federal courts, in all criminal proceedings, the power and authority to deprive an accused of his life or liberty unless he has or waives the assistance of counsel. [3] ” What constitutes a waiver of the right to counsel? Justice Black evaluated the claim that the petitioners here waived their right to counsel, a contention that Justice Pierce Butler, in dissent, believed that Johnson and his accomplice had done. Justice Black wrote:[2] “ There is insistence here that petitioner waived this constitutional right. The District Court did not so find ... A waiver is ordinarily an intentional relinquishment or abandonment of a known right or privilege. The determination of whether there has been an intelligent waiver of right to counsel must depend, in each case, upon the particular facts and circumstances surrounding that case, including the background, experience, and conduct of the accused ... The constitutional right of an accused to be represented by counsel invokes, of itself, the protection of a trial court, in which the accused- whose life or liberty is at stake-is without counsel. This protecting duty imposes the serious and weighty responsibility upon the trial judge of determining whether there is an intelligent and competent waiver by the accused. While an accused may waive the right to counsel, whether there is a proper waiver should be clearly determined by the trial court, and it would be fitting and appropriate for that determination to appear upon the record. [3] ” Could Johnson's error be corrected by habeas relief? Justice Black next addressed whether Johnson's request for habeas relief was a permissible legal remedy. The district judge hearing Johnson's habeas appeal did not believe so, even though the judge stated, "It is unfortunate, if petitioners lost their right to a new trial through their ignorance or negligence, but such misfortune cannot give this court jurisdiction in a habeas corpus case to review and correct the errors complained of."[2] Justice Black argued that such a view of habeas relief need not be so restrictive, noting that the Congress had expanded habeas relief under the Sixth Amendment since the amendment's adoption,[2] “ The purpose of the constitutional guaranty of a right to counsel is to protect an accused from conviction resulting from his own ignorance of his legal and constitutional rights, and the guaranty would be nullified by a determination that an accused's ignorant failure to claim his rights removes the protection of the Constitution. True, habeas corpus cannot be used as a means of reviewing errors of law and irregularities-not involving the question of jurisdiction-occurring during the course of trial; and the 'writ of habeas corpus cannot be used as a writ of error.' ... These principles, however, must be construed and applied so as to preserve-not destroy-constitutional safeguards of human life and liberty. The scope of inquiry in habeas corpus proceedings has been broadened-not narrowed-since the adoption of the Sixth Amendment. In such a proceeding, 'it would be clearly erroneous to confine the inquiry to the proceedings and judgment of the trial court' and the petitioned court has 'power to inquire with regard to the jurisdiction of the inferior court, either in respect to the subject-matter or to the person, even if such inquiry (involves) an examination of facts outside of, but not inconsistent with, the record.' Congress has expanded the rights of a petitioner for habeas corpus and the '... effect is to substitute for the bare legal review that seems to have been the limit of judicial authority under the common-law practice, and under the act of 31 Car. II, chap. 2, a more searching investigation, in which the applicant is put upon his oath to set forth the truth of the matter respecting the causes of his detention, and the court, upon determining the actual facts, is to 'dispose of the party as law and justice require.' 'There being no doubt of the authority of the Congress to thus liberalize the common-law procedure on habeas corpus in order to safeguard the liberty of all persons within the jurisdiction of the United States against infringement through any violation of the Constitution or a law or treaty established thereunder, it results that under the sections cited a prisoner in custody pursuant to the final judgment of a state court of criminal jurisdiction may have a judicial inquiry in a court of the United States into the very truth and substance of the causes of his detention, although it may become necessary to look behind and beyond the record of his conviction to a sufficient extent to test the jurisdiction of the state court to proceed to judgment against him. ... '... it is open to the courts of the United States, upon an application for a writ of habeas corpus, to look beyond forms and inquiry into the very substance of the matter ....' [3] ” Given Justice Black's view that Congressional authority was sufficient to expand judicial habeas review and relief, Justice Black argued that, in fact, rather than precluding relief, Johnson's habeas petition was likely his only recourse for relief: "it necessarily follows that no legal procedural remedy is available to grant relief for a violation of constitutional rights, unless the courts protect petitioner's rights by habeas corpus ... To deprive a citizen of his only effective remedy would not only be contrary to the 'rudimentary demands of justice' but destructive of a constitutional guaranty specifically designed to prevent injustice."[2] Holding The court reversed the lower court's decision to deny habeas relief. In so doing, Justice Black pronounced a new rule in federal courts that counsel must be afforded to all federal criminal defendants:[2] “ Since the Sixth Amendment constitutionally entitles one charged with crime to the assistance of counsel, compliance with this constitutional mandate is an essential jurisdictional prerequisite to a federal court's authority to deprive an accused of his life or liberty. When this right is properly waived, the assistance of counsel is no longer a necessary element of the court's jurisdiction to proceed to conviction and sentence. If the accused, however, is not represented by counsel and has not competently and intelligently waived his constitutional right, the Sixth Amendment stands as a jurisdictional bar to a valid conviction and sentence depriving him of his life or his liberty. A court's jurisdiction at the hearing of trial may be lost 'in the course of the proceedings' due to failure to complete the court-as the Sixth Amendment requires-by providing counsel for an accused who is unable to obtain counsel, who has not intelligently waived this constitutional guaranty, and whose life or liberty is at stake. If this requirement of the Sixth Amendment is not complied with, the court no longer has jurisdiction to proceed. The judgment of conviction pronounced by a court without jurisdiction is void, and one imprisoned thereunder may obtain release by habeas corpus. A judge of the United States-to whom a petition for habeas corpus is addressed-should be alert to examine 'the facts for himself when if true as alleged they make the trial absolutely void.' ... Where a defendant, without counsel, acquiesces in a trial resulting in his conviction and later seeks release by the extraordinary remedy of habeas corpus, the burden of proof rests upon him to establish that he did not competently and intelligently waive his constitutional right to assistance of Counsel. If in a habeas corpus hearing, he does meet this burden and convinces the court by a preponderance of evidence that he neither had counsel nor properly waived his constitutional right to counsel, it is the duty of the court to grant the writ. [3] ” Concluding that the district court erred in dismissing Johnson's habeas claim, the court remanded the case back to that court for additional proceedings on Johnson's petition. Concurrences Justice Stanley Reed did not join the court's opinion but did concur in the reversal.[2] Dissents Justice James C. McReynolds stated that he would have affirmed the judgment of the lower court. Justice Pierce Butler stated that the record sufficiently demonstrated that the petitioners waived counsel, that the trial court had jurisdiction, and that the circuit court decision should have been affirmed.[2] Impact As a result of the court's opinion in this case, the court expanded the Sixth Amendment right to counsel to indigent defendants in all federal criminal trials, unless a knowing, intelligent, and competent waiver of counsel is evidenced. Case notes Justice Benjamin Cardozo took no part in the consideration or disposition of the case. Neither Justice Reed nor either of the dissenting justices authored separate opinions in the case.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.221.98.237 (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I'm not sure what you are trying to do here, but we already have an article on Johnson v. Zerbst. If you want to recommend changes to that article, please discuss them on the talk page Talk:Johnson v. Zerbst. --ColinFine (talk) 15:26, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Uploading image on Wikipedia

Can I upload a image of a celebrity through File Wizard as Fair use??Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 15:33, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

If the celebrity is still alive then a fair use image isn't allowed. Fails citerion #1 at WP:NFCC as an alternative image could be created by taking a photograph of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

And if this is for Sidharth Shukla, a free image is already included in the article, so obviously a fair use image couldn't be used. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

REMOVE/DELETE PERSONAL PAGE

Evening,

Could you please advise how I can delete a Wiki page that is personal to me, but is hindering my ability to secure new roles given the negative stories that appear on the page, it was set up some time ago (2010) by a person who also set up blog sites about me, given my role in public life.

My employment advisor when Google searching my name felt the information on the Wiki page was unduly negative and would impact on my ability to secure a new role.

For your information I served in the UK Fire Service for 31 years with an unblemished record.

Thank you in anticipationJohn130540 (talk) 18:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

John130540, as unfortunate as it is to have an article like this, you do not own your Wikipedia page. However, if it contains libellous information or other information, you should follow the procedures listed at WP:BLPCOMPLAINT. Many thanks, Ed6767 talk! 19:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@John130540: FWIW, any potential employer who relies on a single Wikipedia article about you without following up on any negative material is, at least, irresponsible. If the material is wrong, do follow the link above for help getting it fixed. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

• Update: User blocked as a SOCK of Warren2922. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 20:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

• Note: For anyone that might be interested and judging by the contribs. of the 'sockmaster' seems to relate to Warren Bradley (politician). Eagleash (talk) 22:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

You know, whatever the facts and merits of this particular situation, it's all well and good to say that an employer who relies solely on a Wikipedia article is irresponsible, but that doesn't help someone who can't get a job because some problem material is "out there" somewhere. Put the case of someone looking for a job, and a Google search of that person's name turns up right on the first page a whole slew of hits on the extensive criminal history of someone who happens to have the same name. Very often, it's the employer who has the luxury of choice--and if they have a lot of applicants to look at, they WILL do a quick go-through and reject a lot out of hand, to pare it down to a manageable number that they're going to consider seriously. I remember seeing someone with a box full of resumes she had to look through; if, for example, there was one she couldn't read without a lot of strain--she didn't! Into the Don't Consider pile--and a roughly three-second decision. Uporządnicki (talk) 01:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up action on decisions to delete

Occasionally I find on a talk page a template that says the article was nominated for deletion and "The result of the discussion was delete." The article still exists, however, sometimes with the template dated years ago. For example, Talk:Blagoje Jovović has a deletion template dated February 9, 2009. When I find such a page, should I take any action, or should I leave the page as it is? Eddie Blick (talk) 19:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

If you look at the log you'll see that it was indeed deleted as agreed at the AFD, and if you look at the history you'll see that it was created again in 2014. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Teblick: I would guess that you would follow the normal deletion process, and people may take into account the previous history as needed. Perhaps someone more familiar (than I) with the deletion process can comment on what the appropriate next step would be. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:48, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

David Biddulph, You are correct that I did not look at the log. I interpreted "this article" in the template literally, not thinking that the template would remain when a new article was created. I appreciate your feedback. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

AlanM1, Thanks for your suggestion, but I see now that I was in error in my thinking. The deletion process did its job, and I misunderstood the template to apply to the current article rather than a previous version. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Matran Family of Shamizdin

Hi, this article about my own esteemed family has been deleted, is there at least a copy of it somewhere, I had important information in it.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.106.28.49 (talk) 19:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

The correct way to do this is through WP:REFUND, but there is an archived copy of an older version of the page available at https://web.archive.org/web/20151012005836/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matran_family_of_Shamizdin Ed6767 talk! 19:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Compact ToC not updating

Someone had added "The Zodiac club" to List of fictional bars and pubs, but at the lede. I moved it to a new section "Z", and now it shows fine in the article itself, but the article's table of contents is generated with "{{Compact ToC|u=|z=|num=yes}}", and the table of contents does not show a "Z" link. Why is that? JIP | Talk 22:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@JIP: The TOC template was set to hide U and Z entries (u= | z= | ) I edited it to not hide Z and now it is showing. RudolfRed (talk) 23:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Ah, so that's what the "u=|z=|" part means. Thanks! JIP | Talk 23:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

July 8

can't find cite error in Ossetian language Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

Please explain my cite error in Ossetian language. --Espoo (talk) 00:51, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Espoo: The wikitext parser is confused by the special characters inside two of the external links. I found this by "commenting out" those links. Your best workaround is probably to just link to the dictionaries and not try to link to the page with the word itself, or you may experiment with other workarounds. -Arch dude (talk) 01:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, but which ones? I'm going crazy trying to find them. It seems to be a combo i haven't found. --Espoo (talk) 02:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Espoo:I think it was the first two. Use "show preview", remove them all, and add them back one at a time until it fails. -Arch dude (talk) 02:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I discovered that the error message "The named reference $1 was invoked but never defined" is confusingly also sometimes produced when a named reference is correctly defined if one tries to add a URL in the Template:Refn without using ref tags, for example when the URL includes the equals sign =, e.g. https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=Ossetia.--Espoo (talk) 08:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

How to Publish my Biography on Wikipedia?

Hi Wikipedia,

I would like to add my professional career biography on WikiPedia. Could you please let me know how to publish this information on your portal for public search about me. Please let me know.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by ZakiaHossain (talk • contribs) 01:16, 8 July 2020 (UTC) 

ZakiaHossain Wikipedia is not a place for people to publish their autobiographies or otherwise write about themselves. Please see the autobiography policy. Wikipedia also has no interest in aiding search results for you, in helping your fans find you, or otherwise helping your career. Social media is the proper place for you to tell the world about yourself.

You seem to have a common misconception about what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as an encyclopedia Wikipedia is only interested in what others unaffiliated with the subject say about it. A subject merits a Wikipedia article if it is shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources to meet the special Wikipedia definition of notability(in this case, the definition of a notable creative professional). Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject wants to say about themselves.

If you meet the notability criteria, eventually an independent editor will take note of your career and choose to write about you. Any article about you would not be under your exclusive control. You could not lock it to the text you might prefer, or prevent others from editing it. Any information about you, good or bad, can be in an article about you as long as it appears in an independent reliable source and is not defamatory. A Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable, please read this page for more information. 331dot (talk) 01:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Question about Wikipedia

Pretty much daily, people write here "Why does Wikipedia do this and that about so-and-so?" Apparently they think Wikipedia is a single, homogenous, coherent entity that has official employees and an official opinion.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Wikipedia is a project run entirely by volunteers. I, for example, am a typical Wikipedia editor. I am not employed by Wikipedia, nor do I earn any other income from it. I do this entirely as a volunteer, as an altruistic hobby. So do thousands of others. Most of us don't know each other. So we often engage in arguments.

Many people threaten to sue Wikipedia. Sue whom? There is no single "Wikipedia" entity. You can not sue the entire Wikipedia for something someone who the foundation behind Wikipedia doesn't even know, and is just doing this as a hobby, wrote.

How can we get people to understand this? JIP | Talk 01:46, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@JIP: I certainly don't have a great answer for you. I've also wondered how people can all be aware (and even complain) that anyone can edit Wikipedia without taking on the corollary that it isn't homogenous. If you think of a good answer, please let me know Nosebagbear (talk) 08:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

A good solution that would also encourage very many new people to start contributing to WP would be to change the off-putting, formal, bland, boring "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" at the top of every page to something more welcoming and more informative, f.ex. "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that its users make and are responsible for". --Espoo (talk) 08:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

An alternative to the suggestion above: From Wikipedia, the free volunteer-driven encyclopedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Editing Archive?

I edited and put a link into one of the many questions I asked on the Reference Desk that are now located in the archive for future reference. However, a high-profile administrator reverted my edit and claimed that it was not constructive even though it was just adding a link in a question I wrote. Could anyone explain why my edit got reverted? StellarHalo (talk) 02:11, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about the mistaken warning, I've removed it. However I will note that you generally should not modify archived discussions. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:13, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Did I come across a conflict of interest?

I'm an Occasional editor who mostly makes corrections and is probably over zealous about truth and stopping Vandalism.

Who do I go to exactly if I think someone is trying to maintain a conflict of interest?

On a certain film an editor placed a picture of a certain actor who had a bit role in a film after his role was drastically reduced in the released film the public received.

He also brought his credit marker 4th under the credits.

He had also placed a photograph of a director who had nothing to do with the film in the article but was supposed to work on a cancelled sequel.

He had also removed a photo of the lead star and the actual director for the film and I believe that people who have not seen said film will be mislead into thinking that the role is more prominent.

I just want to say I have no feelings about all the actors involved in the film. What I do have is an indignation for the sake of truth. Is that indignation too heavy in this case?

Maxcardun (talk) 12:12 AM July 7 2020 (UTC)

...Are you joking? You’re filing a conflict of interest claim? What is the conflict of interest exactly? I literally have no connections to Matthew Fox. None whatsoever. I feel I’ve explained this to you countless times in your talk page, on the Talk:World War Z (film) page, and now here, in that the image is there to convey that Fox, despite filming more scenes and having a bigger role in the film, was cut to a lone scene. It’s absolutely impossible for a reader to get misled because the caption under the photo specifically states that. Fox was moved to 4th placement because that’s how the billing block is formatted. This is a practice used across film articles on the website, we go by the credits on the films poster. And once again, the directors image in the section SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CANCELLED SEQUEL, is there explaining his role in said cancelled sequel. Why does this bother you so much that you’re now bringing this to help desk accusing me of having a conflict of interest when I absolutely have none of the sort? I’ve told you already how belligerently bad faithed you’re acting, now this is crossing into harassment territory. Rusted AutoParts 09:16, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

As you can see he is now following ME around, and I didn't even mention him. Maxcardun (talk) 7:37 AM July 8 2020 (UTC)

Maxcardun, use the conflict of interest noticeboard - don't start silly arguments in the help desk. Ed6767 talk! 13:47, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Copy and Paste move problem

Someone just copy and pasted a draft article still awaiting approval into a redirect. Specifically Draft:Min Min (character) into Min Min (character). I, thinking that the article got approved, edited templates and articles linking to the new article. What do I do now that I know it was not actually approved?(Oinkers42) (talk) 04:15, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@(Oinkers42): I have reverted the copy&paste move Because the draft has substantial contributions by others, including the creating IP. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:53, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. (Oinkers42) (talk) 14:27, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Attaching standalone PDF documents

Hello

Is it possible to attach a standalone PDF of a speech to a person's Wikipedia bio/page when no web link exists for the document?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keastlake1 (talk • contribs) 05:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Keastlake1: No, unfortunally not. You can howewer try to find said speech elsewhere online. In todays age, most speeches are recorded in some way, and either printed as a magazine or (at least for the cases I can observe) make their way onto Youtube via a Broadcast Television Sender. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:49, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Philosabhi (talk • contribs) 06:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Prof. Rishi Kant Pandey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Your empty reference was removed in this edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

send me a new password please

I clicked on 'forgot my password' but haven't received a new password yet. Can somebody hep me please? I need to do this for a college professor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.164.126 (talk) 09:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

You should make sure that you typed your email address in correctly, and that it is the address associated with the account. It is possible that there is a delay with the system as well. If the email does not work, you may need to create a new account and identify it as a successor to your original account. If you are working for this professor(even if not paid in money) you must review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Even if you are editing on behalf of a college professor, you cannot use the professor's account: you must use your own account, not one that is ever used by anyone else. If you are assisting a professor to retrieve a password on the professor's account, then if you end up seeing that password, the professor should change the password before continuing to use the account. -Arch dude (talk) 15:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

How to choose bgcolor?

How to choose bgcolor of Infobox for the seasons of Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi. Thanks Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 10:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

And one more query, while using {bgcolor="#7FFFD4"} or any other color which has a code like "#7FFFD4", do I have to remember the code (probably not) to use it or have to copy it from somewhere. Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 10:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Could anyone please guide⬆️ Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 13:43, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Pritam Shaw, if you type "hex color picker" into Google they'll give you a color picker where you can copy the code (marked with HEX) and replace the current bgcolor content with to change it. Hope that helps Ed6767 talk! 13:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey Ed6767, First of all thankyou for your answer and please answer this question too "How to choose bgcolor of Infobox for the seasons of Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi. Thanks"-Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 15:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Pritam Shaw: I guess you mean the background of the headings. I'm not sure whether you are asking how to set a background color in the code or how you might decide which color to use. I don't know about the latter. Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi uses {{Infobox television}} at the top right infobox. It does not have a parameter for background color. The template code says background: #CCCCFF; with no option to change it. But the seasons in the sections use {{Infobox television season}} which does have a bg_colour parameter. Some alternative spellings are also accepted. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:25, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

How to decide which color to choose for Infobox of the different seasons of Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi.Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 07:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Pritam Shaw: If the show doesn't associate seasons with a color then I would use the same color for all seasons. If the show in general is not associated with a color then I would omit the parameter and use the default color. I don't know the show and don't know why color was added to some of the season articles like different greens [1][2] in Fear Factor: Khatron Ke Khiladi 6. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:, Okay let's say in general. I've seen articles of different TV shows making the background color of a particular season same as the color in the poster of that season ([3], [4], [5], [6]). So, is it the correct way??Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 10:08, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Pritam Shaw: That sounds OK. I don't edit in the area but found Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television#Formatting: "Colors for the seasons are often selected based on the series logo, DVD or promotional artwork, or for other reasons." PrimeHunter (talk) 10:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:, Thankyou😊-Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 13:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

my account

How do I change details in my Wikipedia account e.g. my email address

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by JifJaf (talk • contribs) 12:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

At the top right of any page, Click on "Preferences". In the "User profile" tab, where you already are, find the section "Email options". Click on "Change or remove email address". Maproom (talk) 12:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Write article on a topic which is not available in wikipedia

can copy my own website content here. I think it is good because I m not copying from others websites — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:4681:5B63:F1CF:3396:E871:AB5B (talk) 13:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. The answer is "almost certainly not", for several reasons. First, if you have published it on your website, then unless you explicitly release it under a licence such as CC-BY-SA, it would be a copyright violation. Secondly, because it is very very very unlikely that material you have put on your website is appropriate for a Wikipedia article. Please see Your first article to begin understanding how very difficult it is to write a new encyclopaedia article for Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 13:50, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll expand my answer a bit further. A Wikipedia article is a summary of what independent reliable sources have already published about a subject. Unless your site is that, then it is not appropriate. Wikipedia is not interested in what you (or I, any random people on the internet) think, or know, or believe: it is only interested in what reliably published sources have said. self-published sources are rarely usable, even as references. --ColinFine (talk) 13:54, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Unable to process PayPal donation

... unable to process donation to tohttps://donate.wikimedia.org/. When singing in to PayPal I get this (pasted) response:- attempted to sign in to PayPal using LastPass:-

"With a PayPal account, you're eligible for Return Shipping on Us, Buyer Protection and more. Please enter the valid CAPTCHA code. "

... but,. I wasn't asked to enter a Captcha code or image check, so I have given up donating today. The same problem existed about 2 weeks back, except that then, I gave up hunting for a way to let you guys know. Regards, Geoff. Em Geoff.MySurname@MyDomain.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geoff Lezemore (talk • contribs) 18:19, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Geoff Lezemore. Here, you are addressing thousands and thousands of Wikipedia editors, none (or hardly any) of whom have anything to do with the Wikimedia Foundation's fundraising and donation system. Please go to https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Problems_donating for help. --ColinFine (talk) 18:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Need clarity as who should be labelled as a 'paid editor'

Hello There,

I enjoy reading Wikipedia and I started a habit of updating the information in Wikipedia where I found it is either out of date or details are missing. I must say my experience recently is not so good. Today I am labelled as 'paid editor' for a missing page that I created for an very well know Indian asset management company. Link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Asset_Management_Company . I found this missing page from the main page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_funds_in_India. When I go to the main page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page , there is a mention that it's a 'free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.'. Now when I have created the page I am being labelled by an wikipedia admin being a 'paid editor'. I take this an insult to my volunteering work.

Can someone please help me in telling me that what is wrong with the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Asset_Management_Company and why I am being labelled as a 'paid editor' by an admin.

Cheers! Checkright (talk) 18:41, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Checkright: I think because of your limited editing history and the stub [[7]] you created for Axis' Asset Management group (subsequently turned into a redirect), it gave the appearance that you might be trying to promote the group or its mutual fund. It's possible that you were misjudged, but I can't make that determination. Regardless, I don't think there's enough sourcing in your stub for a standalone article, and discourage people from including competitor info (it's a spam magnet and is better to use a category), but you could look into adding a plain sentence or two about Axis Asset Management Group as a new section in Axis Bank#Subsidiaries. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:06, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Many thanks for your feedback. I appreciate that my content had limited info but I created the content looking at the structure that was available for similar category of companies. I take your feedback adding the details in an existing page. My disappointment here is not around whether the page I created, it is around how admins are leveling the volunteering work as a 'Paid' even with out giving feedback.Many Thanks you for your constructive feedback. Checkright (talk) 04:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Commons SVG image not being displayed properly in Wikipedia iOS app

I've been trying to add the following SVG file ( which I created using Draw.io and Inkscape ) to the HP Saturn article :

HP Saturn register fields

The problem is that the the iOS Wikipedia app doesn't display the above SVG correctly -- I just get a blank box.

Does anyone know what the problem might be? I remember that the image used to be displayed correctly, so, maybe it's a problem with the iOS app?

Thanks,

Jdbtwo (talk) 19:13, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jdbtwo: I see a lot of the "inkscape:" namespace within the SVG. It's possible that the app has trouble with this. In Inkscape, try save as... Plain SVG. I'm unfamiliar with the app, but if it can display local files the way any browser can, you can check your file locally without uploading it to the Wikimedia servers. You can certainly do this with the iOS native browser as a cross-check. -Arch dude (talk) 23:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jdbtwo: You might also find a better-focused audience at c:Commons:Help desk. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Use of hyphenation in compound modifiers

Particularly, I'm interested in phrases like "second most dexterous"; could anyone please tell me if it should be "second-most dexterous" or "second-most-dexterous", in either case before a noun? Sorry if this has been asked here before, or if it was covered in the MOS section on hyphens and I missed it while skimming through it, since I only focused on the text in red (sorry not to have read the whole thing). (Edit: Just read through the whole, with varying amounts of paid attention; I'm pretty sure the answer to my question isn't covered there; no offense to the writers of that section.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 19:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: I would say that since writing "most dexterous" is not hyphenated, and "second" modifies "most", it should be "second-most dexterous". I have no idea if that logic is "correct". —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Thanks. Just to clear, you do understand that I'm talking about phrases like the "second-most dexterous typist" and not "the typist who is second-most dexterous", right? Sorry to be condescending; I'm just trying to be absolutely sure about this.--Thylacine24 (talk) 00:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

If you were saying "most dexterous typist", you would not hyphenate it. "Second" is modifying "most", not "dexterous". "Second-most dexterous" is correct. Schazjmd (talk) 00:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Schazjmd: Okay, thanks.--Thylacine24 (talk) 21:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: This is definitely a can of worms. I would suggest that no hyphens are needed at all. This web page has a good discussion, invoking the Chicago Manual of Style. The Manual recommends not using hyphens "unless ambiguity threatens", using this pair of examples:

the most skilled workers (most in number) but

the most-skilled workers (most in skill) MinorProphet (talk) 21:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm comfortable with the one hyphen. It seems most appropriate to me. Sorry to be arrogant about it. (Edit: Added extra indent. Sorry to not test my replies on the preview option first.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 22:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thylacine24, you can alternatively use secondmost. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:03, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Thanks, but as I stated above, I'm comfortable with the one hyphen. Again, sorry to be arrogant about it. (Edit: Fixed template, which lacked vertical bar. Sorry about that, and again, for not testing the preview option first.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 22:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Review assistance

Hi, new here. I just added a lot of information and several citations. Can the "This article needs additional citations for verification" message be removed? Can someone review it for me? Here is the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_(Jacksonville) . Thank you! Lekarren (talk) 20:09, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lekarren: Usually if it's just 2-3 things that are unsourced, you can flag them with the citation needed template. If it's more than that, I'd leave the additional citations template at the top. See the recent edits I made to the article. It's close to just having the individual statements flagged versus the whole article. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:45, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I saw the "citation needed" notes that you made and I added those citations. I had added most of the citations on the page originally, but see you made those two notes that they were needed. I'm sorry if I misunderstood something - is that all I needed to do? I appreciate how you reorganized the material, makes a lot of sense. Do I need to do more on it for it to not have the warning message on the top?Lekarren (talk) 23:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

When you are using the same reference more than once in the article, they should be merged, as shown in WP:REFNAME. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

thank you. No matter how many times I stare at the directions for refname, I don't understand what to do. Can you show me once on the page? I even tried to see how it is done on other pages. For example, on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville,_Florida citations 190 and 191 are the same, but I don't see what you mean by refname. Lekarren (talk) 01:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Instead of trying refname, I removed the redundant citations, replacing them with new citations from additional sources. Hopefully the page doesn't need citation help now. Review please. Thank you all. Lekarren (talk) 01:52, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lekarren: All refs are horrible and beastly and a source of endless pain. To concatenate refs, do this for the first ref:<ref name="MyRef"> Properly formatted reference eg [https://www.random.stuff Random stuff] </ref> For subsequent refs to the same link, do this: <ref name="MyRef" />. This will appear as: For subsequent refs to the same link, do this: and all will be good. It's best to use quotes when defining the name for the first time. The name can be defined once anywhere in the article, it doesn't have to be the first instance. If you edit a single section which doesn't contain the original defining ref name, you will get a warning message when you press Show Preview, but it sorts itself out when you press Publish Changes. Sometimes. Best of luck. MinorProphet (talk) 22:34, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

References

Thank you, I'll keep those directions for the future. I added different sources, instead, and hopefully that will work to get the warning label off the page. Perhaps you have time to review? Thanks again. Lekarren (talk) 22:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Magrath

Good Afternoon,

I work for the Town of Magrath and would like to edit this pagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magrath

The logo has changed and there is a photo we would like to update.

Could you please let me know how to do this.

Thank you.

Jessica — Preceding unsigned comment added by Town of Magrath (talk • contribs) 22:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I believe that you're editing with the best of intentions, but your username breaches the rules here. (A username must be for a single person, and mustn't be, or appear to be, for a group or organization.) Please simply abandon the username (which you seem to have used only for the one edit above) and adopt a different one ("Jessica in Magrath", for example). Once you've done that, the simplest procedure might be to write on Talk:Magrath that Magrath has a new logo and that this may be found at such-and-such a URL (http(s)://whatever.whatever/whatever/whatever). Because you work for the town, Wikipedia's "conflict of interest" guidelines mean that you shouldn't edit the article directly (other than to revert vandalism, etc), but you'd be most welcome to continue to make informed suggestions for the article on Talk:Magrath. -- Hoary (talk) 01:06, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

July 9

Deletion on Meta

What is the procedure on Meta that is the equivalent of an English Wikipedia WP:MfD? --Guy Macon (talk) 00:35, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

m:Meta:Requests for deletion. —Cryptic 00:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Apply math formula in a table?

When building tables here in Wikipedia, is there a way to apply a mathematical formula to a value in a cell (or several cells) in order to show the result in another cell? For a project here, I'm working from an archaic astronomical work. It gives Right Ascension in Degrees, Minutes, and Seconds. Of course, the standard now is Hours, Minutes, and Seconds. An Hour of Right Ascension is 15 degrees, but it's rather more complicated than just dividing by 15.
I looked at the Convert Template to see if that conversion is available; it seems that it is not. Uporządnicki (talk) 01:12, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@AzseicsoK: If the table is edited as table cells in the wiki source then one cell cannot read the value of another cell. If a Help:Table#Row template is used to make table rows then it's possible to pass one value to the template and use it to make multiple cells. Maybe you can combine {{Decdeg}} and {{Deg2HMS}} for the conversion. If you want to display both values without using a row template then you can manually copy the original value to another cell which applies a conversion to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Does "no original research" apply to calculating percentages from raw numbers?

I would like to add census data concerning demographics etc. to the articles for specific towns, based on this pdf. It lists percentages for statistics at the sub-district level, but for individual settlements it only gives the raw numbers (i.e. X many people in category Y). Would it be a violation of WP:OR to convert this to percentages to then include in the article?

Thanks,

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 01:28, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@3 kids in a trenchcoat: Welcome to Wikipedia. Basic math operations are not Original Research, so you are fine. See WP:CALC. RudolfRed (talk) 01:50, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Gotcha, thanks. 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 02:25, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Is including text directly from ballot initiatives acceptable?

I've been working on creating the article Draft:Michigan Proposal 18-2. Under contents, I copied verbatim the what was written on ballots. I believe this would be acceptable, as laws are public domain. I'm not sure however. Thanks for your help. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 06:25, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

How can I stop someone uploading inaccurate information about my Great Grandfather

My Great Grandfather was a Rugby Player for the Welsh squad. He had three children. this resulted in 4 grandchildren and 8 great grandchildren. All who are alive are in close contact. His daughter is still alive at the age of 93.

Every few weeks the page gets updated to add a man called Colin as a grandchild and his 3 rugby playing sons as grandsons.

I have looked into the history and it appears that this man has set up a BOT to continually update this incorrect information. I have investigated this in a genealogical way and there is no chance that this family are direct descendants. It is upsetting his daughter who is still alive.

Please can someone let me know how to rectify this. The Bot that keeps editing this is "AnomieBOT"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Jenkins_(rugby_union) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaEdwards1978 (talk • contribs) 09:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@LisaEdwards1978:First of all, What AnomieBOT is doing is removing empty <ref>-Tags from the page, as they are pointless and cause error messages. As for the family tree, it appears that this was removed entirely because it wasn't WP:RS. You may want to read Wikipedia:FAQ/Article subjects, even if you arent the direct subject, as it may contain additional advice. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 09:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@LisaEdwards1978: An editor has now removed all the relatives from the infobox. The field there is for 'notable' relatives; I.e. persons about whom Wikipedia has an article. FWIW the additions were made by various anonymous editors not by the 'bot' you mention which is an automated tool which undertakes minor maintenance tasks. For future reference, strictly speaking you should not edit the page yourself as you have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest but you can make requests at the article talk page. You could also read that linked page and make the necessay declarations. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:53, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

(ec)Hello LisaEdwards1978, and welcome to Wikipedia. I think you mean the edits directly after AnomieBOT, that was a person.

Unfortunately, the article is pretty bad from the WP-POV, since much in it doesn't have any refs. I removed the names from the infobox for now since there was no cite to a WP:RS. If you know about WP:RS for Albert Jenkins, consider mentioning them at Talk:Albert Jenkins (rugby union). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:54, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Request to add image

Can anyone please add a picture to Thomas D'Souza without facing copyright restrictions. I've tried a couple of times, but every time it got deleted due to copyright infringements ([8], [9]). Thanks-Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 10:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Pritam Shaw Looks like Wikimedia Commons has an image File:Rev. Fr. Thomas D'Souza.jpg- is this the right person? If it is, you could use this. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, but he is not the right person, the correct person's images are in pages [10], [11], [12].

Thankyou-Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 11:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid that, as they stand, none of those pictures can be used, Pritam Shaw. Are you in a position to take a picture of him yourself, or do you know somebody who could? In that case the photographer would be able to license it appropriately as they uploaded it. Alternatively, if you approach the Diocese, they might be willing to license the picture appropriately: see Donating copyright materials, and be aware that D'Souza is probably not the owner of the copyright, and the Diocese may or may not be, depending on the circumstances in which the pictures were taken. If none of those work, then I can't see a way that a picture can be added to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 14:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

ColinFine, I can't take his picture. If you search "Thomas D'Souza" on Google, you'll see a ton of image there. Is not a single image fit for Wikipedia, not even on Fair use?? - Pritam Shaw (talk • contribs) 14:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Fair use is completely out of the question for a living subject, {U|Pritam Shaw}}, as it is in principle always possible for someone to take a new photo of a living person and release it under the appropriate licence.

Images found on the internet are overwhelmingly subject to copyright, even if they are not immediately labelled as such. If you yourself want to perform the labour of checking through them until you find one that is explicitly released in the way that Wikipedia requires, you are welcome – you are as capable of doing so as any other of Wikipedia's all-volunteer editors. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.56.20 (talk) 15:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Publish New Page

Dear, Sir/Mam, I write about my company details since april 2020 but still its showing me as a draft instead of publish that article can you pls. reply how and when my wikipedia page was published?

This is my added page link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SGMF_-_Support_Gujarati_Movies_Forever

Thank You SGMF Team — Preceding unsigned comment added by MT INDIA 786 (talk • contribs) 11:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

It's your company? Please read the "Plain and simple conflict of interest guide".

When the company become much written about in independent, reliable publications, then unrelated, disinterested editors may wish to create an article about it. -- Hoary (talk) 11:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@MT INDIA 786: You created the draft Draft:SGMF - Support Gujarati Movies Forever, but you have not submitted it for review. If you submit it now, it will be declined, because it has no references to sources that establish the subject's notability. In fact, it has no references at all. If you cannot establish notability, then you should abandon your effort. Please look at WP:YFA, and carefully read Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability) and WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 14:45, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Tucker Carlson listed as a Journalist is incorrect

Tucker Carlson has never studied Journalism, and just because he wrote two books and is a political commentator, that does not make him a Journalist. Further, his lawyers have just recently argued in court that no one expects truth from Tucker Carlson. True Journalists are held to a high standard of truth in reporting. Tucker Carlson's own lawyers are arguing that he is not a true Journalist. So, I edited Carlson's page yesterday to remove the word Journalist, and someone, who normally edits Eastern European pages, reverted the changes back. How do I ensure that Carlson is not listed as a Journalist? Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samorgan44 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

The place for discussion of the article is at Talk:Tucker Carlson. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:41, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Samorgan44 (ec) You should bring this up at Talk:Tucker Carlson. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say about subjects. If the preponderance of them describe Carlson as a journalist, there isn't too much you can do about it. If they don't, then you should offer sources showing what he is typically referred to as. 331dot (talk) 13:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia lists his occupation as commentator. His lawyers argued just this week that he does not adhere to Journalistic principles. It does not matter how many people call him a Journalist. He is not one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samorgan44 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

His lawyers can argue whatever they want in court; that's not what we go by. 331dot (talk) 13:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_objectivity Do you go by that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samorgan44 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 9 July 2020 (UTC) How about this? https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/journalism-essentials/what-is-journalism/elements-journalism/ Truth is the number one goal of Journalism. Anyone who has studied Journalism knows that. Carlson does not tell the truth. Carlson is not a Journalist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samorgan44 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

The reference currently numbered 4 in the Tucker Carlson article provides ample evidence that he was once a journalist. Maproom (talk) 14:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

He may have been a reporter once, and he may have ascribed to journalistic principles once in his life, but he no longer does. So, list him as a former Journalist...not as a current one. A true Journalist tells the facts and the truth. Carlson does not do either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samorgan44 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Samorgan44, again, this is best discussed at Talk:Tucker Carlson as that's where discussions related to the article's content takes place. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Problem with relisting MfD debate

The MfD debate Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Kappa/Kaaos (2nd nomination) has been open but inactive for a month now. I tried to follow the relisting instructions by adding {{subst:mfdr}} at the top and {{subst:relist}} at the bottom. The instructions say that a bot will shortly come along and add a link to the debate from the current day's listing. It's been over 14 hours now and no link has been added (I checked from the "what links here" tool). Did I do something wrong? JIP | Talk 14:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I think you did. It seems that your {{mfdr}} was put in the wrong place, see what it says on the template and at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Administrator instructions. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I just relisted it again, with the {{tl:mfdr}} template in the right place. Because no one had added any comments after the first relist attempt, I deleted the old attempt so it does not appear like it has been relisted three times. JIP | Talk 15:03, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I suspect that there may still be problems, perhaps because the listing had been archived before being relisted the previous time so it didn't seem to get put back in the list. It may need adding manually to the relevant place in the list at WP:MFD. I see that recent relistings seem to involve manual intervention rather than by bot. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:23, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

I added the debate to today's MfD listing manually. JIP | Talk 16:05, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Problem publishing a translation

Hey everyone,

I have trouble uploading a translation. I can't upload an english translation of a french article since I didn't do the minimum edits required. Can someone upload a translation on Wiki Uk for me please ?

Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redkoffee (talk • contribs) 15:38, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Short answer:No. Long answer:No, presumably not. Please note that each language of Wikipedia is a seperate project with possibly different rules. We can generally assist you in translating and editing, but we arent going to do the complete work for you. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

User:Redkoffee had already written a translation in his user space. All I had to do was move User:Redkoffee/Roche Musique to Roche Musique and fix a few minor errors. JIP | Talk 16:18, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

There are some COI and paid editing concerns that I have alerted the user to here and on fr-wiki. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 22:57, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Delete Wikipedia Page for Company

I need to delete the following company wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._Gray — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fwagner17 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Fwagner17: Will likely not be done. Please see Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more info. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

User:Fwagner17, if you "need" to delete the article just because you are employed by it and the company wants it to be deleted, please note that the subject of an article is in no way in any kind of position of authority or ownership of it. Please read WP:OWN and WP:COI. JIP | Talk 18:52, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Fwagner17: Wilipedia is an encyclopedia. Our goal is to have an article on every notable subject, by our definition of notable. See WP:N. Notability is forever, so if the subject was ever notable it is still notable. We are not a topical news site. To have this article deleted, you would have to successfully argue that the subject had never been notable. -Arch dude (talk) 19:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Page declined

Our attempt to submit our page, California Dental Hygienists' Association (CDHA) to wikipedia was denied, essenntially citing not enough external sources.

Our organization is very similar to the American Dental Hygienists'Association Wikipedia (ADHA) page, and I see none of the external links on their page that have been required of us to publish our page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dental_Hygienists%27_Association

I can certainly add external links such as news stories to our submission, but I would like to know why the ADHA page has been published, yet ours denied, when ADHA has none of the external links required of our submission for CDHA.

Oral Health Warrior (talk) 20:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)Mike

Oral Health Warrior Please note that accounts may not be shared; only one person should be operating your account. If you represent an organization, please review conflict of interest; if you receive any compensation from them, you must declare as a paid editor.

Please see other stuff exists; other similar articles existing does not automatically mean yours can too. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected or unaddressed, even for years. We can only address what we know about. The article you cite is tagged as problematic.

Please understand that Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization wants to say about itself, only in what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about it(not press releases, routine announcements, staff interviews, etc.) demonstrating how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. 331dot (talk) 20:08, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Oral Health Warrior, the other page has its own problems as indicated in the tag provided at the top. However, a reference (which in itself is not reliable) and external links are provided and formatted properly. I suggest checking WP:EASYREFBEGIN to learn how to properly cite reliable sources. You should probably also review Wikipedia's stance on conflicts of interest as you appear to have declared a relationship with the subject, and said declaration should appear on your user page (something like {{UserboxCOI}} is helpful).

It's also Wikipedia policy that only one person can use one account; sharing accounts is not allowed on here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:10, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

User:Oral Health Warrior, if you look at the American Dental Hygienists' Association article, you will see this right at the top:

This means that article also has problems with lack of external sources. However, as User:331dot said, "other stuff exists" is not a valid criterion for inclusion. The existence of a bad article does not justify creating another bad article. JIP | Talk 20:17, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

• I nominated the article for deletion after failing to find any good sources online. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 10:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

The Maritimes are in Quebec, Gaspe, the Two Isle's Anticosti, and the Magdalen. Since 1949, the Four Atlantic Provinces are one. Pei, NS, NB, and Newfoundland .So who ever posted this , it should only go to 1949.

Thank you, i hope you make those changes , your article is good till you go beyond 1949. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.117.22 (talk) 23:29, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

You'll have better luck posting this on the talk page of the article you're referring to. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

As a Canadian, I can state unequivocally that the Maritimes do not include Quebec, the Gaspé Peninsula, or the sundry islands you've listed. Also, it states in Atlantic Canada, aka the Atlantic provinces, that the term dates to 1949. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

A simple search will bring up lots of official sources for the Maritime provinces, e.g. this federal government article. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:39, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Writing an Article

Hi! I would like to make a Wikipedia article about a fictional airport that I have made a model for. When trying to make an article, it says I must include links and sources for the topic I'm making an article about. But I don't have any of those since my airport is fictional, and would just like to make a Wikipedia article for fun to show to my friends and family. Would I be able to this? Please let me know. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChrisJTP (talk • contribs) 23:31, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@ChrisJTP: See WP:NOT This is not what Wikipedia is for. You will need to find another place to write about your fictional place for your friends. RudolfRed (talk) 23:36, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

ChrisJTP, that does not fall within the scope of what Wikipedia covers. You could try creating something at another wiki. There are some wiki hosting services that might be appropriate for you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:44, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Help a user threaten to

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKent_Bargo&type=revision&diff=966896232&oldid=966545730 Can any experts verify the legitimacy of a another editor able to post final warning over a challenged edit? I feel like this behavior is inappropriate and admin intervention maybe needed? Is like this person want to keep the page his/her way or threaten you to be blocked. Kent Bargo (talk) 23:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

You appear to have been the sole proponent of one side of an argument on Talk:UFC 251. Fine so far. But you won't accept that you've lost the argument. Again: for your latest edit summary, you say "Warning : This is EN Wikipedia not United Arab Emirates Wikipedia : We follow US time". You are welcome to "follow US time" for your own private purposes, but Wikipedia has a policy of using local time. If you are unhappy about this, you are free to argue for a change to MOS:TIMEZONE. The place to propose such a change is Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers. -- Hoary (talk) 05:05, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

what's more, as this is the English wiki, wouldn't the US time be also inferior to GMT? :P Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I think that GMT is only standardly standard in Iceland. Weak-kneed nations like Blighty drop out of it for half the year. -- Hoary (talk) 11:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Hoary It's also the standard time in Ghana and Togo (and maybe a couple of other nearby African countries). Joseph2302 (talk) 12:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I sit corrected and delighted. It turns out that there are a sizable bunch of such countries, not to mention Tristan da Cunha. "Togolese time" has a particularly pleasing ring to it. -- Hoary (talk) 13:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Agree, this isn't the US Wikipedia, and the US has many timezones anyway, so we shouldn't be standardising to "US time". If you want to standardise, so it to UTC. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Agreed to all the above, except that Gsfelipe94 should be reminded that this was a content dispute and were edit warrning themselves (with multiple users) and could have easily been blocked. I count at least five reverts in a 24 hour period. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 13:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. Reverting disruptive edits by multiple IP and registered users that have already done it before does not fall into edit war. There's no content dispute on it, as we already had notes hidden to remind people that the date is correct and should not be changed. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 16:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Gsfelipe94, you are completely wrong. In fact, it's interesting that you are now taking this position when you said earlier "Do not revert or you might me blocked for disruptive edit/edit war" (emphasis mine). Although I actually agree with your side of it, this is the very definition of a content dispute. Kent Bargo was making good faith edits to the article and was not vandalizing. Constantly reverting good faith edits does not exclude you from WP:3RR. If I see you doing this again, you will be blocked as your block history shows you've been down this road before... and apparently haven't learned from it. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 17:58, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Apparently you can't recognize a typo (interesting that B and M are close to each other), so that has no context whatsoever. He was reverted once and warned about it not being a simple content dispute. He did not repeat it, different than the other registered user there who did it twice (not counting the random IPs as well). And yes I was blocked years ago due to 3RR and if I haven't learned from it, those situations would have already repeated over and over again. Can't compare then to now. Gsfelipe94 (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Gsfelipe94, you can rationalize it any way you choose, but it doesn't make you any more correct. If this had been reported at WP:AN3 instead of here and I had seen it, you would be blocked. So, let me be absolutely clear: if you continue to edit war over content like you did on this article, I will block you. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 19:14, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

REQUEST HELP DESK CASE Conversation CLOSURE. The user is going on and on and on again about a =small content dispute... user posted phony "final warnings" on multiple users talk pages. REQUEST HELP DESK CASE Conversation CLOSURE Kent Bargo (talk) 19:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

July 10

How do I go about getting it live?

 Courtesy link: Draft:Deanna Young

Hi there, I have written and edited my first article. It is a draft on the Canadian poet Deanna Young. How do I go about getting it live? Thanks --MichaelAdamsOttawa (talk) 02:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@MichaelAdamsOttawa: I've added the template that has the submit button for you to press. I'd suggest putting the image inside the infobox first though. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@MichaelAdamsOttawa: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to add to it. Click the blue submit button near the top of the page Draft:Deanna_Young, and it will be added to the list for review. Reviews can take quite some time, so be patient, and continue to work on the draft in the meantime. Check out the tips at WP:YFA if you haven't already. RudolfRed (talk) 02:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@MichaelAdamsOttawa: I took a quick look at the draft. The sources you have used seem to be highly specialist publications, with possibly quite limited circulation  and I can't help wondering if they have real "arms-length" independence from the subjects of their articles. Try to find sources that are less esoteric, such as this report from CBS News or this article by the Ottowa Citizen. A substantial article or two by national or regional general newspapers or broadcasters can be worth far more than entire volumes by a "narrow interest" specialist periodical (unless it's a peer-reviewed academic journal of course). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Image needs verification

Can any copyright expert verfiy if this is fan art or real? CLICK Kent Bargo (talk) 04:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a copyright question, or an authorship question? (If a copyright question, then you should assume that it's conventionally copyrighted, "all rights reserved", unless you can point to explicit evidence to the contrary.) -- Hoary (talk) 05:24, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

UFC Europe's twitter gives a different version: https://twitter.com/UFCEurope/status/1274001492358266882 —Cryptic 07:49, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Help edit company page

Hi there, I'm reaching out to you on behalf of Recruitee, with regard to our company page. We are looking into refreshing the content displayed on Wikipedia and in the meantime saw that there is a banner on the top mentioning 'undisclosed payments' in returns for the current article. Find our page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruitee

Could you please let us know what determined the use of that banner on the page and what we can do to remove it?

Thank you! --157.97.118.234 (talk) 08:14, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

It is not "your company page", it is a Wikipedia article about your company. While your input is welcome, you have no more rights to the article than any other editor. Please review the conflict of interest and paid editing policies for information on disclosures you are required to make. The tag that you refer to means that it is thought the article was created or edited by persons who did not comply with those policies, such as a company representative. Compliance with the paid editing policy is a Terms of Use requirement

If you have suggestions for changes to the article about your company, you should offer them as formal edit requests(click for instructions) on the article talk page. You should avoid editing the article directly. Please note that the article about your company should primarily summarize what independent reliable sources say about your company, not what the company wants to say about itself. Any up to the minute current information by your company is better suited for your company website. 331dot (talk) 08:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

The article was created by someone who has edited no other Wikipedia article. Its opening sentence, written by that editor, is in jargon, and does not make it clear whether the subject is a company, a software package, or something else. So it's very likely that the article was created by a PR person on behalf of Recruitee. The article certainly needs attention, but not by anyone with a conflict of interest. Maproom (talk) 08:52, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

alp joining

alp ki joining ckp kb de rha h — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.47.194.184 (talk) 08:38, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a question about how to use or edit English Wikipedia? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 09:10, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

हाय क्या आपके पास एक खाता बनाने के बारे में एक सवाल है या अंग्रेजी विकिपीडिया को कैसे संपादित किया जाए? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 14:18, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Link to Commonscat for images

I have just started work on an article about Fleet Brook in Hampshire, England. I uploaded four pictures to Commons from the Geograph project, and put them in a [Fleet Brook, Hampshire] category, because there were Fleet Brooks in Canada and Nova Scotia. When I added a {Commonscat inline|Fleet Brook, Hampshire} to the article I got a "Warning: Commons category does not match the Commons sitelink on Wikidata - please check (this message is shown only in preview)". I am not sure I understand what the Commons sitelink on Wikidata is, and whether I need to do anything about this to resolve it. Bob1960evens (talk) 14:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Just ignore the warning. The article does not currently have a Wikidata item so there is no Commons sitelink on Wikidata. The warning was added by Mike Peel in [13] but is wrong or misleading in this case. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Bob1960evens and PrimeHunter: In this case there wasn't yet a Wikidata item, I've created Fleet Brook (Q97130245) and added the sitelink to Commons. If it's a new article like this, you can either do the same as I just did, or you can ignore the message if you want as I check through them regularly - and feel free to ping me if you come across it elsewhere and want some help. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:23, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Temporarilly saved edit-window

I'm not going to explain myself very well, so apologies in advance. But when the aforementioned contents of an edit window is saved (cached?), is it saved server-side or by my machine? If the former, is it accessible, if the latter where would it have been saved to? If anyone happens to have any ideas  :) all the best, ——Serial ^# 14:42, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: What do you mean by "Temporarilly saved edit-window"? Which steps have you made when you think this situation occurs? If you click "Publish changes" and the save goes through then it is on Wikimedia servers and can be seen in the page history. If you click "Show preview" or are still writing the edit then it is not saved anywhere but only stored in the memory used by your browser. If it's also stored in the memory of a Wikimedia server then it cannot be retrieved there. It will be lost if the browser window or tab is closed. If you click a link in the browser to leave the edit window then your work may still be there if you click the browser back button. It depends on the browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:17, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: thanks for this, and in the meantime, I've remembered the operative word: autosave, and I finally found the Meta wishlist discussion from a few years ago. You see wot I mean? ——Serial ^# 15:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

That's news to me. I don't know anything about an auto-save feature. I have a stable browser and computer and don't experience mid-edit crashes. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

commons.wikimedia.org

how do I add commons.wikimedia.org to my account?

0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 16:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

login with wikipedia.org name & password & cookies....0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 16:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@0mtwb9gd5wx: Yes, you can just view any page at https://commons.wikimedia.org while you are logged in. I see you have already done it now. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit to "Pandemic"

I take exception to an edit to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic, specifically the last sentence of the top summary: "Current pandemics include COVID-19, HIV/AIDS, and racism[10]." This should be corrected to "Current pandemics include COVID-19 and HIV/AIDS".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infection establishes that the technical specificity of disease in medical terminology is an organism invading body tissues. While totally reprehensible - I'm all in there - the mention of racism is a pollution of this medical definition. Furthermore the YouTube link provided in the bottom citations leads to a link that starts with an ad.

I created a user account to edit this but yet I am a neophyte as an editor.

• Can I simply remove that part of the top statement and the bottom citation?
• Do I need to log some justification somewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jseeman (talk • contribs) 17:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

The place to discuss an article is on its talk page, but the edit concerned has been reverted. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jseeman: Thanks for your interest. "racism" was added 30 minutes before your post and has been reverted as unconstructive. You could simply have removed it and explained why in the edit summary box below the edit area. You could also have checked the page history and reverted the edit which added it. Inappropriate content like that is often recent vandalism and frequently (not in this case) part of other bad changes to the page. See Help:Reverting for how to revert edits with a few clicks. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:10, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Sending messages to project pages?

I am curious about a recent post to Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous). Apparently the announcement about the new Abstract Wikipedia project was delived to the VP via the mass message sender process. Is this normal? Can any page be the recipient of a mass message? I thought messages could only be sent to users. RudolfRed (talk) 18:12, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

See mw:Extension:MassMessage#Configuration parameters. Talk namespaces are allowed by default. Wikimedia wikis add NS_PROJECT (the project namespace) to wgNamespacesToPostIn in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php. It also adds mainspace at meta:. The message at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Announcing a new wiki project! Welcome, Abstract Wikipedia has a source comment saying: "Message sent by User:Elitre (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Elitre_(WMF)/All_wikis_June_2020&oldid=20265889". PrimeHunter (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed explanation. RudolfRed (talk) 19:23, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Green + in Contributions Tab

When opening the contribution tab, all my contributions have a green plus sign followed by a green number after it. What does this mean?

Thanks, UsaforPennies — Preceding unsigned comment added by UsaforPennies (talk • contribs) 18:20, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

It tells you how many bytes were added in each edit, see Help:User contributions and Wikipedia:Added or removed characters. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm I able to play videos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mphotheo shoko (talk • contribs) 19:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

REPLACING MY PHOTO

I wish to change the photo on my Wikipedia page.

I am Terry Carter, I have a photo that I want to use. The photographer has already sent you written permission for my use of the photo.

Please tell me what I must do next.