User talk:El C

If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures!  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

4Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Rev-dels

Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Romania

And all I got was this... Whoa!

I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

And all I got was a ^^^

• Talk:And Then There Were None#RfC: And Then There Were None and racial language
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Request for comments on the 'political position' parameter of the political party infobox
• Talk:Romania#RfC
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: HispanTV
• Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Is RfX a vote, or a consensus discussion? (RfC)
• Talk:Civil Rights Act of 1968#Merger of Fair Housing Act and Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968 into this article
• Talk:WikiLeaks#RFC: Murder Of Seth Rich content dispute
• Talk:Athens News#Request for comment
• Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC: LavScam
• Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC: Change "white supremacist" to "white nationalist"

El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Nice. Thanks, Gerda! El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have  Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

February flowers

Alte Liebe

Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's corner

Add some colour to the corner! El_C 08:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for tagging me, El_C! Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's February corner

Hellebore

Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Yay for Green Opa! This made my day! El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Till 120! El_C 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Birds of a feather

External videos
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)

Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Helleborus orientalis

happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR

@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Us

User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)

"You See Far, You See Clear"

"Us"

"I Want Us To Be Realized"

"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"

"You Put My Hand In Yours"

"A Place Of Worry"

What Is Love?

"How Is It That A Star"

"A Love Song (Like A Wheel)"

"Sitting On The Fence"

"Fragile"

"In Praise Of Samba"

"Where Are You?"

"Poogy Tales"

"Tell Me"

"There Were Nights"

"It Happens"

"Drawing"

"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"

Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda loves subsections!

Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems. Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

"making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Innisfree Garden

Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".

I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

"no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Guess what, BWV 1 and BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.

Did you know ...

... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?

(17 February 2021)

One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Play Bach

How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

(As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

"You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

"at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Lab Leak essay close

Thank you for this. Even if I may dislike with the outcome, I believe you have fairly assessed the lack of consensus. However, I do have one favor to ask: Is there any way you could restore the essay's talk page, since the user essay will be kept? I think it adds important context to the community's thoughts on the essay. Let me know if I should file a formal WP:REFUND instead. Thank you.— Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 14:19, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Shibbolethink, I appreciate your support. No problem:  Done. El_C 14:28, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/109.79.160.61

I just commented at AN/I, but I only now just noticed you blocked 109.79. I think this was a misunderstanding because from what I can tell since 109.79 is actually an experienced user (not a sockpuppet) who had a pretty legitimate reason for doing what they did (certainly weren't ever warned against it at least). I really don't think blocking them was the right call here. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:23, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I didn't say they were a sock. But if they are an experienced user, how do you justify their logged out editing that hounds another user? El_C 17:27, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

MJL, please feel free to refactor this exchange onto the ANI thread. Probably better we discuss it in that wider forum than split the discussion over here. El_C 17:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

(1) All of their experience is logged out editing. They've been editing Star Trek articles for at least more than a month (it's all on their range)

(2) editorinteract.py showed me two diffs: [3] and [4]. Besides the explicit mention of Talk:WUKY, those were the only examples I could find of following.

(3) All three show the same exact pattern of 109.79 simply trying to restore removed text, and I can't see in that as anything nefarious. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:41, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

FWIW, my intuition on these matters, are rarely wrong. GoodDay (talk) 17:50, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, GoodDay, unless it involves smoking out campers, my intuition is kinda for shit. El_C 17:54, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I sincerely hope, ya'll are correct on this. GoodDay (talk) 17:57, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Who knows. But I'd rather err on the side of good faith. El_C 17:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

A poseur writes:

The Boomtown Rats were a punk band of the second rank, who'd written a couple of good tunes but had a rep for TTH. Then one day in 1985, with Sir Bob Geldof (as he then wasn't) running on fumes and adrenaline, they did this - and jammed the entire BT phone network for over two hours.

Few popular musicians understand the power of silence. Keith Moon was another.

(I'd bet my life savings Geldof got his K on the recommendation of Brenda or someone in her household - Thatcher couldn't stand him, he called her out.) Narky Blert (talk) 17:36, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm more of a funk than I am a punk man, truth be told, Narky Blert (though, of course, I admire the latter's origins and spirit). But I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommend! El_C 17:43, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, Narky Blert, I tried giving it a chance, I really did. But it just isn't my cup of Earl Grey. Damn, I think I might be a prep! Oh noo! El_C 17:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For taking on difficult tasks that need to be done I award you the Admin Barnstar. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 23:07, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, man! I did a thing, I got a thing. El_C 23:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I endorse all barnstars given to El_C (not that my endorsement is meaningful but just putting it out there). S0091 (talk) 23:55, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar

For being “that sort of admin” there are a bunch of you though, but you popped in my head first. I have always been intrigued by men and women of power who aren’t stiff but jovial and act as though they aren’t powerful but command great authority and power it’s hard to explain but I hope you get what I’m trying to say. Furthermore for being an admin who is unafraid or unfazed in the face of tough decisions. Celestina007 (talk) 23:51, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Coincidentally I see TNT already gave you a Barnstar of Good humour and as God is my witness I saw it after I had given you the Barnstar. Still sad about the JPL block though 😔. Celestina007 (talk) 23:54, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Wow, I don't think I ever edit-conflicted by an award just as I was responding to a different award! Anyway, I followed some of that, Celestina007, the rest I will definitely let go to my head! Thanks for colours! Hope your knee is healing good and not too hurty. El_C 23:59, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I’m recovering, thanks once again. Thank you for your services towards the growth of the collaborative project E, it is appreciated. Celestina007 (talk) 00:05, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Page Protection

Kolkata Downgrade the protection to semi because of page stablity.. Thanks.– ItsSkV08 (talk) 08:40, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Done. BTW, ItsSkV08, the magic word is... plight, probably...? El_C 10:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Impersonation?

Is this you?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:53, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Announcement: I've quit en and moved to Commons, Ymblanter (for the lulz!). El_C 15:59, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:01, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

You spelled kthxbai wrong! El_C 16:06, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

El C is El keeper of the sacred lulz nowadays; so that's a dead giveaway. SAD to catch the champion of the proletariat moonlight for the capitalist suids though. Usedtobecool ☎️ 18:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Kill prepz, get money. El_C 18:43, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

IP harassment

Hi El C. Some IP hopper (from Turkish Cyprus) has appeared out of nowhere and is disrupting the latest articles I have edited. [5] [6] --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:57, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

In tandem, even. El_C 20:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Think I got a fan [7] [8] --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:51, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

In tandem in tandem — that's a fractal! El_C 21:36, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Hattrick [9] --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:49, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

♫ Ta-da! ♫ El_C 12:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Johnpacklambert

I saw that you were the administrator that protected User:Johnpacklambert's talk page; would you be willing to look at the user page as well? Brownugget (talk · contribs) is an account created today that seems to be created with the sole purpose of messing with JPL and made this edit to his user page. - Aoidh (talk) 22:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

And... gone. Beyond reprehensible, truly. El_C 22:59, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that so quickly. I'm at a loss as to what goes through some people's heads. - Aoidh (talk) 23:00, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Of course, Aoidh. Thank you for reporting it. Indeed, depressing to witness someone having lost any semblance of humanity and compassion. El_C 23:07, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

I was not aware of the edit notice, in hindsight that makes a lot of sense. First time doing a page restriction under DS. Thank you. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 23:01, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

No worries. Hey, we all gotta start somewhere. And if you get a Cow Man to guide you, all the worse! BTW, handy link to remember: T:DSA (specifically, Template:Ds/topics/single notice is transcluded at the bottom). El_C 23:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

WP:SPA account casting repeated aspersions

The user Aydin mirza keeps casting aspersions in Talk:Kapan#Edition and sources. Their latest reply is a good example [10]. They seem to be a WP:SPA account [11], and have a history of disruptive and POV style edits in AA area. They also re-revert every time their disruptive edits are reverted [12], [13], despite all the notices in their talk page. Maybe you could take a look, dear El C. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 13:37, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Having glanced at it, their behaviour obviously isn't ideal, but I confess that the content changes themselves go over my head. I'll drop them a warning to tone it down. If you see fit, maybe take it to WP:AE for a more comprehensive review...? El_C 13:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the help El C, appreciate it. I'll wait and see if the user continues their behavior or not, as maybe they'll improve in the future. Pleasure talking to you, cheers. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 13:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

No worries, glad I was able to help (hopefully). El_C 17:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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Quick announcement

Friend in hospital needs help. Possibly serious, but not life threatening. Might be resolved quickly enough, but if I vanish for a few days, that'd be the reason.

Sorry in advance if I miss your comment here, there's been like 50 edits to my talk page in the last 2 days alone, which is really par for the course. Please note that, in general, there's no harm in placing a note at the bottom here just to check if maybe I overlooked your comment. That said, there are a few (very few) threads/comments I purposefully do not reply to for whatever reason, so, I dunno, use your discretion there I suppose (ask yourself: what would Darth Tyrannus do?).

Thanks everyone and best wishes, El_C 17:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Update: Just grabbing some things from home, probably gonna be about a week. El_C 18:32, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Ouch! My best wishes for them. Narky Blert (talk) 21:34, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

That's terrible! Hope your friend gets better soon :( — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 19:47, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

May the force be with you both. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:54, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

I echo the above as well. Crossroads ^-talk- 04:40, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, friends! Just quickly watering plants. Should be a few more days. In any case, excellent prospects for a full recovery, but still gotta get over the barrel of not/laughs. In the meantime, while away, I've drafted some nonsense no one cares about: An open letter to Irma Records and What Lulz got to do with it, got to do with it? Enjoy! P.S. Forgot to mention last time: it only took me 17 years, but finally gave my Commons userpage a facelift: →ElC← (old timey pics circa 2004-2008). Talk soon. El_C 21:40, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Great news about your friend! And lots of excellent pics. --bonadea contributions talk 09:40, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Best to all! —valereee (talk) 17:34, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Back early, but gotta re-charge. Currently re-reading a Hebrew translation of Giles Milton's Nathaniel's Nutmeg, Val. It is excelente. El_C 03:25, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Move prot

You changed edit prot here but that also set the temporary move prot to indef. Can you remove the move prot or lower it to autoconfirmed to match edit? ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 00:18, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

I actually think it's best to leave the move protection for the Panjshir conflict at admin level (i.e. RMs only), due to the nature of the subject matter. El_C 03:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

JPL unblock thread

• The ANI thread is here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Johnpacklambert unblock conditions. --Floquenbeam (talk) 03:53, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

And it's a shoe in! El_C 03:57, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand very many of your clever comments lately. I'm sure it's my fault. But could you do me a favor and, when talking to me, either do it in plain English, or just don't do it at all? I have no idea if this is a compliment, an appreciation, a disagreement, an insult, a play on words, a reference to some song. It's exhausting to have to ask. --Floquenbeam (talk) 04:00, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Uh huh. El_C 20:44, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Not going to lie, El_C. I have found it... curious.. the amount of references and silly jokes you have been making as of late. Any particular reason behind the uptick? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 02:45, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

No. El_C 02:53, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Edit-war and WP:OR addition

Dear El_C, hope you're doing well. As the title says, user Verman1 edit wars and later adds complete WP:OR with POV modifications in Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: Revision history. As seen from the history, I notified them numerous times about their unsourced additions, now they're adding the same with a source that doesn't support their claims (and which after checking, I told them [14]). They re-reverted me yet again without an explanation (also breaking 1RR if it applies) [15]. Clear breach of WP:OR, WP:EW and WP:DE. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 13:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey. Sorry, not really in the mood to look into that right now. Regards, El_C 13:55, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

No worries. With best, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 14:01, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

98.113.137.35

98.113.137.35 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hi El C

An IP has recently emerged, adding personal commentary and removing sourced information [16] [17] [18]

A interesting thing is that the edit he did here [19], which is basically a restoration of a previous banned users edit [20], both of whom have the same rather rude behaviour [21] [22] [23]. This guy deffo seems to know me (or well, he think he does). --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:16, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Blah! El_C 19:27, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) why did I laugh at this so much haha, good one. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 20:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Looks like a range block might be needed [24] --HistoryofIran (talk) 05:31, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

If you have a recommended range, feel free to link it here. I'm happy to have a look. El_C 14:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, I may have misunderstood how range block works then. I just saw that both IPs had the same 98.113.137 number and thought that would be enough. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:32, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the club! That's why when someone asks for a range block, I let them link to the proposed range so I can get a sense of any collateral (that, at least, I can do). El_C 15:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @HistoryofIran: maybe I can help. An IP range is like a net you throw over a bunch of IPs that are given out to users connecting to the same network, which is often determined by being geographically close to each other. The larger the net you throw, the more chance there is that you will 'catch' more than one user receiving IPs within that range.

So if we block an IP range, we want to make sure that the net is not too big: we want to block the disruptive user, but we might not want to block their brilliant neighbour who happens to sit in the same IP range. The way to do this is to look for the IP range that does include all the disruptive IPs, but not any (or too many) others.

For example, the smallest IP range in this case is 98.113.137.35/32 (you can reach this by going to an IP's contribs and manually adding "/32" to the URL), which doesn't include 98.113.137.113. The largest possible IP range, 98.113.137.35/16 (the smaller the number after the /, the larger the range), does include it, but is of course much too large. The fastest way to find the smallest range that includes it is to first check the one in the middle between 16 and 32, 98.113.137.35/24, which still includes it, then again the middle between 24 and 32, 98.113.137.35/28, which doesn't include it anymore because it is too small, and so work your way to 98.113.137.35/25, which is the smallest IP range that contains both disruptive IPs.

The next thing to do is to check whether any of the other IP's caught up in the range can be safely assumed to belong to the same disruptive user. If not, blocking that range will also block the non-disruptive and potentially brilliant users behind the other IPs. Whether that 'collateral damage' is worth it, is something El C doubtlessly will be able to judge. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 00:08, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Facepalm I've just found a tool linked to by WP's block log ('calculate a rangeblock') that will automatically do this for you (just fill in the disruptive IP addresses; it will also work for these longer IPv6 addresses if you choose that option). ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 00:32, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Booker T. Washington Senior High School (Miami, Florida)

Hi El C, extra eyes on this will be appreciated--I don't want to spend the late night reverting and repeating, then going to a noticeboard. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:56, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

How can I say no to you, IP? El_C 03:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I know, my charm has no limits. And my intuition is decent--probably I went straight to an administrator because I had a sense this would be a next chess move [25]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:47, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Back In Black spam! El_C 04:08, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Wondering

• [26]
• [27]
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To start off, if this is too recent for you to wish to discuss, I can understand that and will happily go crawl back under my rock.

But in light of recent events, it's interesting to me to consider my recent proposal in light of recent events. Now it's a different situation to be sure, but I wonder, setting aside the 24 hour arbitrary time limit a second, I wonder if discussions (between blocker/unblocker/potential blocker/various editors/community/etc.) might have been more fruitful somehow. This was a mess, but such situations often are.

I'm wondering what we (as editors, as admins, as part of a community) could do better here.

And in thinking about it, I guess I was wondering what your thoughts were, not so much necessarily on this specific situation, but situations in general. - jc37 06:18, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

jc37, indeed, right now I'm not at the point of engaging in detached generalizations that extend from this case. You'd think that after +8000 blocks and +200 unblocks I'd get the benefit of the doubt, at least when it comes to lifting my own block. But whatever. Doesn't matter. I'm just... Doesn't matter. El_C 11:31, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I understand. and I understand. I know cliches and platitudes are unlikely to help at the moment, but regardless, you have my empathy. I wish you well. - jc37 11:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Actually it does help, so thank you for that. Kind regards, El_C 11:45, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Balkans topic ban coverage

I really do not care much about what that particular editor does, but out of curiosity. Is an editor who is topic banned from the Balkans allowed to edit articles that mention Romania, Serbia and Croatia [29]? Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:51, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Ktrimi991, it's a bit borderline, but the edits themselves do not seem to violate the TBAN's parameters (its spirit, if you will), so as it stands, I'd leave it be. El_C 18:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I see what you mean, and I agree. Of course, that editor should be thankful for your good will. I have seen several cases of topic banned editors being blocked for a week or a month for edits that were good ones, but were made on articles that concerned (uncontroversial) Balkan stuff. Well, that was rather harsh probably. Best. Ktrimi991 (talk) 21:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

It seems that the editor was not aware of the rule [30]. Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:29, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Strange Wall of text at my Talk

Hello, El_C, User:Karak1lc1k left me a message at my talk page, dont know what to say, could something be made. For example to protect my talk page or indicating him that talk pages are not Forums. I'm not Iraqi or Belgian but dont believe that type of opinions should be allowed, because of WP:FORUM and WP:CIV. By the way that user was blocked in the past for disruptive edits and turning talk pages in forums 1, 2, 3.Mr.User200 (talk) 18:01, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I just reverted it as per WP:SOAPBOX. Especially for clear WP:SOAPBOXing like this, I think deletion or collapsing is always the best answer — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 18:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

And of all the admins to deal with such anti-communist soapboxing, you've chosen the Red'est of the bunch — smart move! El_C 19:55, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Any advice ?

Hey El_C, hope you are doing well (and your friend who was in a hospital too). Just to let you know, this RfC i opened more than a month ago has not gained any contribution, however, so far two other editors have already said that the current version is not legit, Visioncurve and Kansas Bear. Thoughts ?---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:19, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey. Thanks. Wow, that has to be the saddest RfC I've ever seen (participation-wise). My recommendation: relist and advertise it (neutrally, of course) on a number of wikiprojects related to the subject matter. I'm presuming that the two choices presented are the principal contending versions when I say this, though. HTH! El_C 20:26, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, same goes for me, that's really the saddest RfC i've seen since i'm on Wiki LOL, and it's mine ... I'm not well aware of how Wikiprojects work, since i've never been a member of one of them, but i'll give it a try. What do you mean by "relist" ? you mean i should post the RfC again ? Thanks very much.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I mean re-tag it again with an updated timestamp and a note that mentions you having done so. See WP:RFC#Restarting_an_RfC. El_C 21:05, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

@Wikaviani: your username is so hard to link, so much code! El_C 21:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thank you very much ! Sorry for my username, didn't know it was so hard to link (i think it's because there is a missing bracket at the beginning of the ping) ! Cheers !---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:16, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, because I have to reconstruct it from <b><span style="color:orange">---Wikaviani </span></b>^{<small><b>[[User_talk:Wikaviani|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Wikaviani|<span style="color:black">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small>} No biggie, you're hardly the only one. El_C 21:19, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Table mess

cheers El C, wondered if you can help here- an editor has added this (Procurement) table which mostly speculative content, and a mess to read - further the content is already covered Royal Malaysian Air Force page. I've removed & noted here to no avail (twice wanna avoid an edit war)- any help would be appreciated - Thanks FOX 52 ^talk! 05:14, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

FOX 52, I've blocked 42.188.81.254 and warned PTS_188. But, as for your edit summary to Klueng that read in full: that's not the proper use of a table WP:WHENTABLE -further already covered in the "Present development": (RMAF page) (diff) — that's actually not the best approach for dealing with someone who has only been here for a couple of months. It would have been better to explain in simple terms on the article talk page what all that means, then add a link to it at the end of the original edit summary. Otherwise, it sort of comes across as wiki alphabet soup bombardment of a new'ish editor. And, in general, communicating through edit summaries is rarely enough for content disputes. HTH! El_C 10:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

For Your Information, Sorry to say this but It Wasn't my idea to revent it. Klueng has Made this for days and im not against Fox but he need to understand That Aircraft Iventory dosen't need to put on Equipment of RMAF But he Insists to remove. One Iventory is Enough. Im just doing my job to help klueng. Sorry to make Edit war. Peace.PTS 188 (talk) 14:01, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Myanmar protection request

Can you please renew the protection on 2021 Burmese protests? ― Tartan357 ^Talk 08:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

I restored the original title and move protected, but let's wait and see if additional protection action is needed. El_C 10:22, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Destiny

See also: User:El C/Songs from new lands, User:El C/Songs from the homeland

A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Oceanic feeling

Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Lyrics:

(Intro) Somehow I found myself here today Awakened to these thoughts and feelings Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming? A strange sort of spherical sensation With an overwhelming sense of apprehension An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon So far beyond our reach Where consciousness coalesces Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds The streaming runs of thought goes 'Round and 'round and 'round Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down And the earth bows down in reverence Lest it should be torn to pieces And blown into oblivi-essence And all who live will run and hide And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of One's own mind But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind You'll find that everyone is everyone And everything is everything (Verse one) Open up Your hearts and minds 'Cause I remember Nothing One day now It all falls down But love must keep on Loving So start the show Here we go (Chorus) Dark to light The day from night A roll of a mountain A rip in the sky Turning the dust to flesh And ashes to breath A pull of a muscle A pin in the eye An initial spark To get this heart of mine pumping And another To get these feet of mine running But sadly they've just taken me To a place Where all is devoid Of your embrace So baby now we're falling Baby now you're falling Baby yeah, yeah Baby now we're falling, baby yeah Tripping and tumbling Flipping and fumbling Flowing on the rivers of sadness That have been forever rumbling But from dawn until now Of all the paths that I could have gone down Of all the valleys That I could have been flowing through In spite of all the chaos And all that has come between us How is it I still find myself Here with you (Outro) So somehow we find ourselves here today A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming A strange sort of spherical sensation An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon And all of us, we run and hide Do what we've done since the dawn of time Peering out through the beating rain The pounding wind Everyone is everyone And everything is everything

Serrado. El_C 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Memories of Spain

Tomatito & Michel Camilo (2000)

Hooni (2012)

Olivier Castellat (2010)

Stevie Wonder (2008 live)

Gary Valenciano (2017 vocals)

Chick Corea and Return to Forever (1973 original) / Live performance (date unknown, but laterer)

El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Resting: a compilation

Flite — El_C 10:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Void — El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

WhipTail — El_C 10:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Posição — El_C 10:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Feel Free — El_C 02:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

On Sight — El_C 10:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

The return of Remix surfing

Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Golden — El_C 09:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Mozalounge — El_C 20:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorrow — El_C 13:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Be With You — El_C 14:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Everybody Knows — El_C 10:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Butterfly — El_C 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Guilty Pleasure — El_C 09:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Blue Bossa — El_C 15:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Legend — El_C 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Who — El_C 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Losing My Way ^{London (2019)} — El_C 15:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Love Forever — El_C 16:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Brother to Brother — El_C 01:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

'Round Midnight — El_C 06:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Close Your Eyes — El_C 18:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar

Whipping Post→Mountain Jam — El_C 23:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Into the Sun — El_C 14:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

April — El_C 14:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Desire And The Comforter — El_C 04:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Fire on the Mountain — El_C 12:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

A Go Go — El_C 14:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Broken Promised Land — El_C 15:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Mediterranean Sundance / Rio Ancho — El_C 18:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Eternity's Breath, Pt. 1, Pt. 2 — El_C 21:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Say the Brother's Name — El_C 22:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Drifting — El_C 22:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The Epic — El_C 05:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Little Wing — El_C 13:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Bold As Love — El_C 13:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement), Tina S ^{Dr.Viossy — El_C 16:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)}

Reba, Brother, Glide, Rift — El_C 22:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

How Insensitive (Wes Montgomery), Pat Martino, Grant Green — El_C 02:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

White Rabbit — El_C 13:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Telegraph Road — El_C 21:47, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Yours Is the Light — El_C 23:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Burning Bridges → Mudmen — El_C 13:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

16/16 — El_C 03:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Achilles Last Stand — El_C 12:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

La Grange — El_C 03:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

White Room — El_C 00:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Tupelo (Albert King, Pops Staples, Steve Cropper), JLH — El_C 00:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Soul — El_C 03:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

My Inspiration — El_C 12:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Our Spanish Love Song — El_C 20:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Change of Life — El_C 02:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Reunion — El_C 12:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Montevideo — El_C 02:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 02:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Treacherous Cretins (studio), Copenhagen (1979) — El_C 12:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Arabia→Hasta Siempre, Comandante→Arabia — El_C 20:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Dark Star — El_C 16:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Tangled Up in Blue — El_C 02:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Face to Face (masks save lives) — El_C 13:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Bossa — El_C 22:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Under the Milky Way — El_C 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Wish You Were Here (studio), Pulse — El_C 02:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Albert's Shuffle, His Holy Modal Majesty — El_C 14:09, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Cārukeśī, Sunset Road (studio) / Sunset Road (Live Art) — El_C 09:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Gimme Shelter — El_C 17:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

The Great Gig in the Sky (Pulse) — El_C 20:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Eyes of The World — El_C 03:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Morning Dew — El_C 14:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Sky → Kind of Bird — El_C 18:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm Troubled → Been All Around This World — El_C 14:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (JHB) — El_C 14:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

La Sirena — El_C 12:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

The Landlady — El_C 12:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Dope-A-Licious — El_C 00:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Air

Unveiled — El_C 15:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Portia — El_C 23:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

El Niño — El_C 00:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Jungle Strut — El_C 09:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Dialogos → San Lazaro — El_C 16:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Love Has Come Around — El_C 13:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

In a Sentimental Mood — El_C 14:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Rondo à la Turk — El_C 22:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

La Fiesta — El_C 10:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, It Has No Chance (etc.) — El_C 12:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Skin — El_C 13:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Manhã de Carnaval — El_C 21:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Dawn: Dawn Is A Feeling — El_C 11:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

In My Own Way — El_C 19:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Caged Bird — El_C 10:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Around the Bend — El_C 15:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

House of the Rising Sun — El_C 00:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Prism #1 — El_C 11:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Water

Deep down → Secret Blue — El_C 18:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Familiar — El_C 05:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Feel It All Around — El_C 11:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

What If This Storm Ends? — El_C 18:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Promise — El_C 23:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Breathless — El_C 09:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Waves — El_C 17:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Power of Love → Vision is a Naked Sword — El_C 00:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Running Away — El_C 11:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever) — El_C 23:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Jack-A-Roe — El_C 11:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Fall songspam

All Along the Watchtower — El_C 04:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh My God! — El_C 00:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Poetry — El_C 12:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Paroles, paroles ("Words, words") — El_C 02:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Ebatule — El_C 14:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Europa (Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile) — El_C 00:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Booty Step — El_C 11:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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Sorry, everyone, I will not be accepting any new requests for the immediate moment. In the meantime, enjoy the music! (Also here) El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda's September corner

September songs

Omas gegen Rechts - enjoy strong women! I thought of Yoninah on the first day of Rosh Hashanah. I hope you could help your friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

These unstoppable grannies are da best! A ray of light in my day. Thanks, yeah, helped for a while, but now someone else has picked up the slack. One way or another, we'll figure it out. El_C 00:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Good news, thank you! Could you please help us to Psalm 16 text? (Psalm 15 next). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I am WT:QAI/Psalms -on it. El_C 21:53, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Good to glow. El_C 21:59, 8 September 2021 (UTC)