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March 4

Documentaries as citations

Are documentaries valid citations if the source is trustworthy, in my case the Iowa PBS? ✶Mitch199811✶ 00:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mitch199811: I would say yes, especially if you are able to cite it in a way that is verifiable by others. Things like radio news broadcasts may be reliable but not possible to verify unless there is a transcript or recording available (and the transcript or recording cannot be a copyright violation). ~Anachronist (talk) 02:06, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mitch199811: Depending on the program, you might be able to use {{Cite AV media}} or {{Cite episode}}. GoingBatty (talk) 02:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

RSA Fellow and INTJ

Hi I'm a Royal Society of the Arts Fellow and true INTJ with testing I can prove I did test as a genius And I can prove it Jdm7dv (talk) 00:26, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I would like my own wiepedia page. Jdm7dv (talk) 00:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I am a INTJ-T top 1% of the global population and if that's not notable I dont know what is and I have the testing to prove it. Jdm7dv (talk) 00:55, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

And I'll show you according to what book when you ask. According to the Book 'Please Understand me' by David Keirsey and Marylin Bates Jdm7dv (talk) 00:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/jonathanchapmanmoore was #1 on reverb nation in Ireland. Jdm7dv (talk) 01:31, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jdm7dv, I'm gonna note that 1% of the global population still means 80+ million people. Being INTJ doesn't necessarily mean you automatically deserve an article. Additionally, the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator has a lot of critics in the scientific community for whether it is valid (many people regard it as pseudoscience or just not reliable and accurate in general). 💜  melecie  talk - 01:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

 Note: 1% of the world's population is not 800m. 💜  melecie  talk - 01:42, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Melecie Wikipedia will here from my Microsoft Lawyer. Jdm7dv (talk) 01:33, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Melecie I do Have a 25 year Microsoft case load and Partnership too. Jdm7dv (talk) 01:41, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

With Letters of recommendation from Bill Gates Jdm7dv (talk) 01:42, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jdm7dv: You have been blocked in the past for making legal threats. Retract this one immediately before you are indef-blocked again. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Melecie and a letter of recommendation from Predident Obama Jdm7dv (talk) 01:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

A Microsoft lawyer? Ok. David10244 (talk) 08:22, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jdm7dv: Please read WP:NBIO for the guidance in general and WP:AUTO regarding an article about yourself. After that, you may follow WP:YFA to create a draft article for review. RudolfRed (talk) 01:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jdm7dv: I'll add that being in some arbitrary 1% group (and it is emphatically not a "top" 1%, it's just a 1% proportion) isn't a differentiator, and it certainly isn't a valid notability criterion to merit an article in Wikipedia. As an analogy, people with AB-negative blood type are even more rare, and we certainly don't have an article on everyone with that blood type. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:34, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jdm7dv: Please also read WP:NLT, legal threats will get you blocked. RudolfRed (talk) 01:43, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Indeffed for NLT, CIR, and most of all, NOTHERE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:47, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Wiepedia? Clarityfiend (talk) 01:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

What percentage of INTJ's can't spell or use the correct words or punctuation? There are lots of typos in their posts here. David10244 (talk) 08:20, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Searching for an article that needs more updating..

Like C class articles, or even a list of topics that need more added? Thank you. Phoenix3305 (talk) 01:34, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Phoenix3305: See Category:C-Class articles or Category:Start-Class articles. You might also check Category:Articles to be expanded and Category:All stub articles. Lots of ways to slice and dice this content of articles needing work. You can also see WP:WANTED for a list of most-searched topics that don't have an article. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:37, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Phoenix3305, you may also find articles in your field of interest or expertise through WikiProjects. for example, WikiProject Poetry has a list of poetry-related articles that could use some improvements through the table in the right of the page, then clicking the C-class or Start-class links. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 05:26, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Fixing a table

Working on Draft:Car Seat Headrest discography and can't get the table in the "Live Albums" section to display right. Can anyone help? The Midnite Wolf (talk) 05:01, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

hi @The Midnite Wolf and welcome to the Help Desk!  Fixed, the issue is caused by the rowspan parameters in the column headers which made the code thibk the columns were intended to span two rows, which included the row where Live at WCWM was on, pushing it to the right since the first two cells were already occupied. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 05:22, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!! The Midnite Wolf (talk) 23:12, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Visible markup

Article List_of_airline_codes contains a (huge) table. There's also some visible markup near the beginning of the article. Is any of that necessary, or meant to be part of the table markup, or is it just "extra"? David10244 (talk) 08:05, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@David10244 I have undone the last edit which has fixed the visible markup. It seems the page was vandalised. Paulpat99 (talk) 08:41, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Paulpat99 Thanks, now the list of clickable letters is there. David10244 (talk) 10:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Is there a style guide policy on linking author names in references?

Hope I am asking in the right place. I notice some editors like to add links from author names listed in citations/references to Wikipedia bio articles about those same people. So, for example, if you look at Battle of Hastings#References, you can see quite a few of the authors there are linked to relevant bio articles. But it doesn't seem to be a general practice: it's easy to find many articles where such links are missing. Indeed, that seems the default. So, my question is, is there any actual guidance on doing this beyond the general guidance on internal linking? Is it generally a good thing to do, or is there no special policy? Thanks. :) 45154james (talk) 11:39, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@45154james: I'm not sure about any explicit style guidance, but most of our citation templates (e.g., {{cite book}}) have a specific separate parameter for the author-link. I have always assumed that the existence of such a parameter indicates that using the parameter is acceptable and is even encouraged, unless there is more specific guidance in the template documentation. -Arch dude (talk) 17:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

That's really helpful - especially to know about the parameter. Thank you. 45154james (talk) 18:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

From {{cite book}} section on author/last: "Do not wikilink—use author-link instead.", the same applies to first. "contributor" and "translator" are handled similarly. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 19:43, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Yep. The point is that we DO want a clickable wikilink as an issue of style. However, we prefer to use the template's mechanism to create that link instead of using linking "by hand". The reason is simple: it is much easier to create and maintain. As a matter of style, if for some mysterious reason you needed to create an entire citation "by hand" because none of our citation templates is suitable, you would create the link by hand. -Arch dude (talk) 20:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@45154james Some featured articles, such as evolution have more than the normal number of author links, which I think are helpful as they reveal which authors are themselves notable enough to have articles on Wikipedia and which in a multi-authored work are the more senior, usually. That said the use of author links is patchy and by no means as important as getting other aspects of the citation correct. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:05, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! It's the "patchiness" aspect that bothered me enough to ask the question. If you add links to a list of citations that are otherwise devoid of them, they seem conspicuous - but I guess that's no reason not to make improvements. The other aspect, I suppose, aside from the potential value to readers, is that it is (or may be in future) "semantically useful" to have these links, which add connections between articles that otherwise might not exist. 45154james (talk) 15:20, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Some of us always cite "by hand" because we don't care for the templates. (WP:CITEVAR explicitly permits it.) In that case, of course, construct links manually. If I think an author's notable, I tend to link his name, and ditto for editors etc., and also publisher names — it provides a sense of verifiability for the reliability of the author or publisher. It's also useful for disambiguity, e.g. if a book by John Smith is published by Springer, a properly constructed link will help the reader figure out which of the many John Smith articles is intended, and it avoids confusion between Springer Nature and Springer Publishing. Nyttend (talk) 06:39, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

How to delete Wikipedia Pages about hardcore criminals or gangsters who are making threat calls to innocent people to extort money or involving in murders or involving in smuggling of narcotic drugs and liquor, etc. ?

I'm new to Wikipedia and I want to know the legal process to delete Wikimedia Pages about hardcore criminals who are deliberately making threat calls to innocent people in order to extort money or involving in firing incidents or involving in smuggling of narcotic drugs and liquor or involving in murder of innocent people or involving in other criminal activities. Many hardcore criminals are misusing Wikimedia Platform in order to glamourize through their followers. Please suggest me the legal process or other way to remove Wikimedia Pages that are glamourizing gangsters directly or indirectly and thus having negative impact upon the minds of innocent common people. Cops.cp (talk) 13:01, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello Cops.cp! There is no "legal way" to delete articles about criminals in Wikipedia. I understand that some people might be tempted to emulate them, but Wikipedia is not here to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS but Wikipedia is here just to provide information. If there is any information in the article that is "too glamorous" that is wrong and not factual, you can edit the article by yourself. If you need help with that, please let me know. Have a good day! ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 13:05, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

We have articles about criminals. We have articles about nuclear weapons. We have articles about topics considered blasphemous in some religions. Wikipedia is not censored for any reason. 331dot (talk) 13:11, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Well, Wikipedia is now being used by Russian troops that are invading Ukraine for instruction on how to handle weapons. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 13:21, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Very interesting. Thanks 331dot (talk) 13:27, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@SunDawn Does ru.WP not have a NOTHOW rule? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:48, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

In my opinion, if there is "Evidence of Paid Page Creation" in order to glamourize a gangster, then Wikimedia Foundation Office should take action to remove or delete that particular page permanently. Cops.cp (talk) 13:38, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Cops.cp That's not an office action. See WP:PAID for information on reporting undisclosed paid editing. Are you a police officer here in an official capacity? 331dot (talk) 13:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections. 331dot (talk) 13:45, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Also, could you name at least one Wikipedia article which is glorifying a criminal, so other editors can have a look at it. At the moment, you are talking in very general terms about this.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:48, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

We will absolutely not be deleting the page on Donald Trump. --GRuban (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Heck no, he's hosted SNL twice! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

New article

Good morning. I wrote new article "Jacek Bocheński" a few days ago. It is in my sandbox. Jacek Bocheński is one of the most famous Polish writers. His most known cycle is ".Roman Trilogy". Book one and book two od this cycle were recently translated into English by Tom Pinch and edited by Mondrala Press. It's good reason to familiarize English readers with this author by adding his biography to English version of wikipedia. Could You view and check this article? It is in my sandbox. I couldn't add any external links, I tried, but I couldn't, there wasn't any space free. In the section "Bibliography" there are only three books. Most of articles about Jacek Bocheński were written in Polish and German. In the next week a new article on English will be edited in one of the Polish newspapers and I will add it. I couldn't add any German articles because there wasn't any space free. Thank You very much for Your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.D.K. (talk • contribs) 15:20, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, J.D.K. I have added a header to your sandbox User:J.D.K./sandbox, so that when it is ready, you will be able to submit it for review. ColinFine (talk) 16:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it is nowhere near ready for review. The problem is that most of it is unreferenced. Sources do not have to be in English (English ones are preferred if they exist, but are not essential), but the sources must be reliably published and most of them must be independent of the subject.

Like many new editors, you have plunged into one of the most difficult tasks there is in editing Wikipedia, and tried to create an article with your very first edit. Most people who try this have a frustrating and disappointing experience, because there is so much that they do not yet understand about how Wikipedia works. My advice would be to put this project aside for a few weeks or months while you learn how Wikipedia works by making improvements to some of our six million existing articles.

Then I suggest reading your first article, WP:NAUTHOR, and WP:REFB.

I do not understand what you mean by "there wasn't any space free". There is no practical limit on the size of articles. ColinFine (talk) 17:06, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I have tweaked the article to use standard Wikipedia format. TSventon (talk) 17:24, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Short Description

When I was last active on Wikipedia there were no such things as "Short Descriptions" so I'd just like to clarify what they're for and why we have them?

The context of my enquiry is this edit to Intestacy.

It's clearly a good faith edit, but the user was presumably someone who didn't know about intestacy so for the sake of brevity removed the wrong half of the sentence. In fact it is not having a will that is the defining feature of intestacy (a "testament" is an alternative term for a will, so an "intestate" is someone who doesn't have one). I can correct it by putting it back as it was. But is there any reason I cannot make it briefer but sill correct. "Dying without a will" would work for me. Any thoughts? AndyJones (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

If you browse wikipedia on a mobile device, you can see exactly how they're meant to work and why they need to be very short (often just 2-3 words sometimes). On mobile, each article gets an autogenerated list of related articles appended at the bottom. Each one of these has its shortdesc alongside. If the shortdesc is more than a few words, it gets truncated and becomes effectively useless! I often shorten long ones when I see they have been truncated, and that's probably the reason for the edit you noticed. Your proposal seens OK to me. See also WP:SHORTDESC. 45154james (talk) 15:57, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Brilliant, thank you. I've made that change. AndyJones (talk) 16:15, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Problem

Hello, I can no longer access the e-mail address linked to my profile; to solve this problem I would like to change the e-mail address and link it to my profile, is this possible? JackkBrown (talk) 15:51, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

You can change your email address under Preferences → User profile → Email options ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 15:55, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I solved the problem! You have been a great help! JackkBrown (talk) 16:04, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

The weight of Gymnast Kim Zmeskal

I want help and I go with permission that I have found about how much did the Gymnast Kim Zmeskal weigh and tall is she? And I found this in this https://informationcradle.com/kim-zmeskal/ Magnolia677 did to me. And I did make an updates of her story and record. I just want to apologize. I looked carefully and pay attention. 100.2.114.167 (talk) 16:19, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Reliable sources. 'informationcradle.com' clearly does not meet that standard. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Kim Zmeskal's children sons and a daughter

I need help here about the article of her family. She is married to her husband Chris Burdettte, and she a mother. She has three children, two sons Riven Burdette and Robert Burdette and Koda Christopher Burdette. Wasell gotten mistaken for deleting her story. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Wasell&action=view 100.2.114.167 (talk) 20:39, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

As Wasell's edit summary states:

WP:BLPNAME; also rm long catalog in lede

You're going to have to explain how adding details about a non-notable family member enriches the article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:42, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Edit to one section breaks another

In this diff, I edited the "Overview" section by changing "are" to "is", since the singular was indicated. Before this edit, the maths in the "Calculation example" section displayed fine. But after this edit, that section's giving a failed to parse error. Any idea what went wrong, and how I caused it? Unfortunately, none of the error message is clickable, unlike the Help:Cite errors link in the error messages you get when you make a referencing syntax error. Nyttend (talk) 21:01, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I WP:NULLEDITed the page, and that fixed it. So it's nothing you did, just the server responsible for parsing math tags having a bad day. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:04, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

I purged the page cache and it seems to have resolved itself. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 21:04, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

March 5

Incorrect information regarding the founder of the NBFO, Washington, DC in 1974

I perused for information, that I spearheaded and founded the National Black Feminist Organization in Washington DC in 1974. I have the Washington Post article to support my claim, however, credit wasn't forthcoming. I have completed the manuscript, and in the process of publishing my memoir, Expanding the Scope: A Memoir from A Multifaceted Person. How to I correct information on the google web? 2601:46:C881:7020:D475:C65D:F232:B0D (talk) 01:39, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

If you want to improve a Wikipedia article, you can start a discussion on that article's talk page. For errors in Google you will need to contact them. You might be seeing the Google Knowledge Graph which pulls information from many sources. RudolfRed (talk) 02:24, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Links in articles

I'm looking through the manual of style but I'm having trouble finding guidance on something... The article Korean Wave states in the second paragraph of the lede:

"Following the 1997 Asian financial crisis and the loosening of restrictions on the South Korean entertainment industry, South Korea emerged as a major exporter of popular culture."

Is it (or is there) a hard rule that "1997 Asian financial crisis" should not be linked again when it is mentioned later in the article? (I feel like I've heard this brought up previously when reading Featured Article reviews) Can someone direct me to the MOS policies around double linking? Cheers! Freedom4U (talk) 05:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

MOS:DUPLINK * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:35, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! And double thank you because of the mention of duplinks-alt in there, that looks handy. Freedom4U (talk) 05:38, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

How to disable the sticky bar that appears at the top of pages?

Recently, a "sticky bar" has been appearing at the top of Wikipedia pages: when I scroll down a few lines, a horizontal bar containing the title of the page and a variety of buttons appears at the top of the browser window, introduced by animation that makes it crawl downward. I find this distracting and quite annoying. How can I disable the sticky bar? I looked in Preferences | Appearance but didn't find anything. —Ben Kovitz (talk) 10:48, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi BenKovitz, I think this might be a Vector 2022 thing, perhaps changing it in Preferences → Appearance → Vector Legacy (2010) and see if that fixes it? Justiyaya 11:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@BenKovitz and @Justiyaya I don't think that is a Vector 2022 skin thing. I use Vector 2022 and I don't see it. If it crawls down the page as you scroll, it sounds like custom Javascript code, coming from somewhere. Do you have any custom css (or whatever that stuff is)? David10244 (talk) 07:15, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@David10244, that's odd, because I'm told that the floating header is enabled by default for logged-in users of Vector 2022. I wonder why you're not seeing it? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@David10244: Nope, I don't have any custom Javascript or custom CSS. —Ben Kovitz (talk) 17:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@199.208.172.35: Hmm, that suggests that there might be a way to disable the floating header. Have you seen any way to do that? —Ben Kovitz (talk) 17:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@BenKovitz Odd, I see that header today. It wasn't there before, I swear! However, I have restarted my tablet... The header doesn't move down the page as I scroll. That would be annoying. David10244 (talk) 10:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

If you wish to otherwise retain the new skin but lose the mystery menu, you will need to add some custom CSS or Javascript. There is a FAQ here about that, but I found it didn't work. Instead you can add some custom Javascript to your Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js page. The code to use, using that link, is: $.when(mw.loader.using('mediawiki.util'), $.ready).then(function () {$("#vector-sticky-header").remove();}); -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 11:12, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I just tried it and it works! Thanks! BTW, do you know where I can put in a word suggesting that the default in Vector 2022 should be to have no sticky bar? As I understand sticky bars, they are mainly for things that don't suit Wikipedia pages, like constantly nudging a user to make a purchase. And of course they introduce distraction, which doesn't suit a scholarly, textual site like Wikipedia. —Ben Kovitz (talk) 17:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@BenKovitz There is mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements for suggestions and feedback. (Personally, I quite like the sticky header—but I can understand why others don't.) Shells-shells (talk) 17:39, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Adding of my page

How can i create wikipedia using my html code Bunnygoud (talk) 13:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

See WP:YFA, but please note Wikipedia doesn't use html code. Theroadislong (talk) 13:26, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Question

Why is the hyphen attached in the title of this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutgers_University%E2%80%93Newark, and not in this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutgers_School_of_Business_%E2%80%93_Camden. JackkBrown (talk) 16:05, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Because they were created by different people at different times, and nobody until now has noticed and cared about the inconsistency. You're welcome to move one of them to whatever is more appropriate. But many many times more important than worrying about consistency of names would be finding some sources to establish that Rutgers School of Business – Camden meets Wikipedia's criteria of notability or deleting it if it does not. ColinFine (talk) 16:12, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Providing some sources would also allow the test in WP:COMMONNAME, by which articles should be named according the name most commonly used for the subject in the sources. ColinFine (talk) 16:17, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your comprehensive answer. I don't have the authorisation to move titles, otherwise I would have done it myself. JackkBrown (talk) 16:32, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

You can make a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I have requested the title to be moved! JackkBrown (talk) 17:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

ColinFine, for your reference, major schools/colleges/departments within major US universities are basically guaranteed to be notable; they're basically on the same notability level as Oxbridge colleges. Nyttend (talk) 18:37, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Mebbe. But the existing article says nothing encyclopaedic about it. ColinFine (talk) 23:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Sentence

Since I'm correcting numerous details, I would like to make sure of this: in the sentence "Danforth Campus buildings", should 'buildings' be capitalised? Thanks in advance. JackkBrown (talk) 17:12, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Please tell us which article you are talking about (it's neither of the two you linked to in your previous question). We cannot reliably answer your question without seeing the context, because we cannot tell whether "Buildings" is part of their name, or a common noun being used in the text. ColinFine (talk) 17:51, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

"The newspaper reported that some of the Danforth Campus buildings had burned in a fire, but other buildings on the Danforth Campus were unaffected, and none of the Quayle Campus buildings were touched." "Welcome to the Danforth Campus Buildings, comprising James Hall and Quayle Hall." If it's just buildings at the Danforth Campus, no capitalisation because it's just a common noun being used in the text, but if it's a specific designation, capitalise because it's part of their name. Nyttend (talk) 18:41, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine: here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_University_in_St._Louis#/editor/4; second caption: "Danforth Campus buildings". JackkBrown (talk) 20:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: No, "buildings" should not be capitalized in that context. Deor (talk) 22:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! JackkBrown (talk) 10:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Add background to an image in an infobox

I have File:Overwolf vertical.svg. It needs a black (#060606) background. the second revision added the background but neither Wikipedia nor the size trimming bot recognize it. Is there a way to add a black background to an image using wikitext Aaron Liu (talk) 20:25, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Aaron Liu I think that {{multiple image}} can do this, although I find the instructions quite impenetrable. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:11, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I got it to work. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:51, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Have a look at Wikipedia:SVG_help, it also has links to some SVG checking tools. The Commons checker will check it against know Wikimedia bugs and issues. - X201 (talk) 16:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@X201 The file is nonfree, so it's not on Commons but it has been marked as checking OK. The real issue is a different problem: see WP:Help_desk#Background_colors_in_SVG above at March 3. The OP is looking for a work-around for that issue. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: The image doesn't have to be on Commons. The tools will allow you to check a file without making it an actual commons file. - X201 (talk) 17:15, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@X201 He said that neither commons nor labs nor w3 showed any errors. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

March 6

Regarding Cricket competition Wikipedia

Hi Team,

Some Mad person is updating the ICC 2020-2023 World cup super league points Table to Wrong Data. Actually South africa already awarded their 30 points to Australia and Same time Australia has awarded 30 points to Afghanistan. There is couple of more series canceled, so the points Table should be updated according to that. I had authority and updated it but some mad person threatened me to not to updated instead his updating is erroreneous one

Please update it accordingly — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManojDDesai (talk • contribs) 03:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

You could try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket. See also WP:COMMUNICATE. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:29, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Kangaroo (1952 film)

hello I believe that my father was an extra in this movie he has since passed my mother is still alive. how do I find out who where the extras in this movie would there be some record of them his name was Eric deane virgin or joe virgin in those days . he would have been riding horse as he was a drover than, your peter virgin Adelaide south Australia 2001:8003:B027:B01:85B6:8559:4282:C217 (talk) 08:26, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

This page is for questions about Wikipedia-editing. Try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:31, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello. Extras in Hollywood films are, by definition, uncredited and paid very little for the privilege of a few moments onscreen. Accordingly, there is rarely any way to establish that a specific person was an extra in a specific film. See Extra (acting) for details. Ensemble (musical theatre) describes a similar concept, although these performers get a little bit more respect. They have to show up day after day, not just once. Cullen328 (talk) 08:41, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The only website I'm aware of which covers movie cast lists in exhaustive detail is IMDB but even its listing for that film does not have your father's name. However, you may be able to add it there.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect formatting

Good morning, this paragraph was formatted wrongly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janata_Party#/editor/15. JackkBrown (talk) 10:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: That's a mobile edit link. The section is Janata Party#National Units. It had code from a confused edit [1]. I have removed the code [2] without examining the remaining statements and references. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

How to write on new person or Organization

How to write about new person or organization that is not available on Wiki till date DigitalizedApex (talk) 13:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The answer to this is don't, particularly if you have a conflict of interest while doing this. If you would like to create a draft article to be reviewed by other users that is fine, but it should meet the guidelines for notability.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@DigitalizedApex: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia: It is not a venue for press releases or for any "embargoed" information: see WP:NOT. If a subject is notable by our definition, it deserves an article, otherwise not. Notability is defined as the availability of information about the subject in the general press (WP:N). You cannot predict when a particular non-notable subject will suddenly become notable. It is technically possible for you to write a proposed article as a sub-page of your user page. This page will not be a mainspace article. It will not be indexed by search engines and it will not be reviewed until you later submit it for review. However, since Wikipedia is designed for collaborative editing there is no way to prevent other editors from finding this article and reading it if they know where to look. -Arch dude (talk) 16:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Gaia EDR3 template issue

On TRAPPIST-1 it seems like the reference templates cannot see the Cite template and thus throw a red error. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't see any errors in that article's references, despite there being a huge number of them. The Gaia EDR3 is ref 1 and looks fine to me. Are you getting something else? Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:01, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

The red error comes from a personal script at line 3 of the editor's ~/common.js.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

You broke the link at this edit. That is perplexing. {{cite Gaia EDR3}} lists it's publication date as 2021 and also links to the Astronomy & Astrophysics article and erratum from the same year. So why did you change {{sfn|Brown|Vallenari|Prusti|de Bruijne|2021}} (note the year) to {{sfn|Gaia EDR3|2023}} (again, note the year)?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

hi I want to change my user name can you please guide me

I want to change my user name R.OSMA zahid (talk) 16:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@R.OSMA zahid, Since this is your only WP-edit so far, the easiest way is to forget this account, never use it again, and make a new account with the name you want. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@R.OSMA zahid: You can go to Wikipedia:Changing username for more info, but like Gråbergs Gråa Sång said, it's easier to abandon this account and create another one. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:15, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Ancestral Charts

What is the policy on including ancestral charts for a member of royalty or nobility of any country? Is there a site-wide policy? What specific types of sources need to be given? Can someone block you from including a chart on an historical figure’s article but themselves include a chart on another similar figure’s article? Do all historical figure’s articles follow the same policy? What is the standard to follow: local consensus or site wide policy? Would two articles of the same nature (eg. Maria Theresa of Austria and Maximilian I of Mexico) have two different standards of inclusion? Thank you. CMD007 (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

See also this discussion for context. --130.111.39.47 (talk) 20:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, please do. See also:Talk:Maximilian I of Mexico CMD007 (talk) 20:37, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

These questions can be answered without bias. Or can they? CMD007 (talk) 20:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Six people have answered your questions, but since you do not like any of their responses, you label them biased or sockpuppets. Now you are forum shopping as well. Keep it up; an ANI thread has no length limit. Surtsicna (talk) 16:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

That is untrue, NO ONE has directed me to WRITTEN policy or guidelines as to why two similar pages have different standards for inclusion based on two different sources “needed”. You are showing everyone that you can’t act mature, all the while trying to fluff up accusations while only one admin said that’s enough. CMD007 (talk) 20:14, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I won't comment on the conduct/behavioural issues which is concerning, but specifically regarding policies see WP:OTHERSTUFF, WP:CONSENSUS as policy reasons for why two articles may have diverging approaches. Sourcing quality also will also influence article variation. I hope you’re able to de-escalate and come to an amicable resolution with the other editors, regardless of what outcome follows ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

How many warnings until that becomes bludgeoning? CMD007 (talk) 02:37, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

How do I upload PARR LUMBER new logo

This company has rebranded and has a new logo. How do i upload the logo to be able to show correct information to the audience. Nancycranston (talk) 22:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Nancycranston Please see WP:UPIMAGE for the process to upload an image. 331dot (talk) 22:35, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Broken image

Any idea why the image isn't working at Ladies Musical Club (assuming it's broken in general, not just for me)? If you click through on it, everything seems fine, so there is no doubt that the image exists on Commons, and that the filename is correct. - Jmabel | Talk 23:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Jmabel, the image works just fine for me on an Android smartphone. Cullen328 (talk) 23:34, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

And now it's working for me. Probably was some sort of caching problem. - Jmabel | Talk 00:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Jmabel | Talk 00:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

March 7

Wikipedia deleted my fathers page

James Hugo Sporleder was removed by WIKIPEDIA representatives claiming he was not published.

I have St. Louis Post Dispatch published article introducing James Hugo Sporleder,

USA Senate Committee published quotes by James H Sporleder.

Where and why was it removed? Jeffry Sporleder (talk) 03:16, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jeffry Sporleder: James Hugo Sporleder was deleted in 2021 after discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Hugo Sporleder. It was created in 2016 by Wendy.sporleder. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Nobody is suggesting that he wasn't published. The question is "Was there enough independently published material about him to base an article on?" The consensus in 2021 was that there wasn't. If you can point to sufficient sources to establish notability, then an article about him might be possible (but the deleted article would probably not be much use for the purpose, because it was evidently not based on suitable sources). Remember that nothing written, published, or commissioned by him, his family, his associates, or his employers would contribute to notability. ColinFine (talk) 15:45, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

If a draft is similar to an existing article

What should I do if I find a draft that covers the same topic as an existing article but the spelling is slightly different. Specifically, Draft:Kluay Buat Chi versus Kluai buat chi. Aithus (talk) 05:38, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Aithus. A draft about a topic that is already the subject of a Wikipedia article should be declined on that basis alone. Any new policy-compliant content in the draft should be merged into the existing article. Cullen328 (talk) 07:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Aithus: You can use {{AfC comment}} to say an article already exists.[3] If the spelling is a plausible search term then create a redirect. "Kluay Buat Chi" gives many Google hits including the capitals. I have redirected Kluay Buat Chi to Kluai buat chi. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Nationality

My reading of MOS Biography is that it is correct to describe Vitalik Buterin as Russian-Canadian as he was born in Russia and NOT to describe Dominik Mysterio as Mexican-American as he was born in the US.

Can you confirm - or if not put me right please.

Many thanks. Lukewarmbeer (talk) 08:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The answer to questions like this is always "how do the sources describe him?" not "Where was he born?" ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Positions are not in clockwise order

Good morning, on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakarta, the positions within the first caption are not in clockwise order. JackkBrown (talk) 13:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: Yes they are. Clockwise means . PrimeHunter (talk) 13:46, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The best place to raise such issues is on the article's talk page. ColinFine (talk) 15:52, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I think this is plagiarism.

I was given a newbie task to add citations to the Battle of Chiset article. I found a source here (https://dbpedia.org/page/Battle_of_Chiset). Then I realized that the article was just copied and pasted from this site and copied to wikipedia. I'm new, but I don't think this is in acordence with the rules. If this is against the rules, where do I report it? Blitzfan51 (talk) 15:14, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Blitzfan51 If you scroll to the bottom of the page at dbpedia, you will see a disclaimer that it is a Wikipedia mirror, in other words, they copied from us. Definitely don't use that as a source in our article, as it would be a circular reference. When I'm looking for sources for older articles, I tend to check the history to see when the oldest version of our article was created, then I limit my searching to sources that pre-date our article. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

In addition, it seems that this mirror is license-compliant (it says that the text comes from Wikipedia and under which license).

If it had not been, see Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks#Non-compliance_process for what you can do (but realistically speaking, the answer is nothing). Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 15:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Also, if you check Bataille de Chizé, ther are sources there you could use. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

From that site's footer: This content was extracted from Wikipedia. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 15:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Oops! OK thank you for the help. I'm gonna run back to that article and uncite that cite and try to find different sources. Blitzfan51 (talk) 15:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Potential biog AfD

I just stumbled onto this biog Nicolas Sarkis which has many dead or deprecated citations. I think that notability is not met although he is author of a book. Would someone care to have a glance (it's short) and advise whether an AfD is appropriate here? Thanks. Thelisteninghand (talk) 16:01, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Dead links aren't great, but the fact that links went dead should not effect the notability of the subject. Nearly everything on the internet is archived somewhere.Help:Using the Wayback Machine has more information on how to find archived articles. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:19, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks - links and notability are two separate issues really. I can't see what makes the subject notable. The article appears to advertise his book and not much more. Cites to a PDF and publisher's website are not good sources I would suggest. I'll await further comments before AfD. Cheers. Thelisteninghand (talk) 21:00, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Vandalism help request from Anubhavklal

I have noticed some vandalism at Indian National Congress. Namely, details of the founders are deleted everytime without justification. I have also posted this on Talk page. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Anubhavklal (talk) 18:02, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

This looks to me like an inaccurate description of what is going on there. However, you've done the right thing by opening a talk page discussion on the subject, that is for sure how we resolve content disputes here. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:16, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Anuabhavklal, you are having a content dispute with Vanamonde93: that is how Wikipedia works. You have taken the correct step by discussing it on the talk page (after having previously taken a very very incorrect step of edit warring). If you cannot resolve your dispute in that way, dispute resolution will tell you how to proceed.

Please note that describing an edit that you disagree with as vandalism is disruptive. ColinFine (talk) 18:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

HISTORY OF Cincinnati Ohio

I see no mention of the Cincinnati Royals basket ball team 184.57.211.122 (talk) 18:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

History of Cincinnati is not protected and you can add referenced content to the "Sports" section. See WP:FIXIT. Cullen328 (talk) 18:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Franklin D. Roosevelt Harvard Graduating Year

He graduated in 1904 not 1903. The Harvard Crimson Yearbook lists his Senior Photo in 1904. 2600:8801:2F00:9D:9493:8685:78F:5F59 (talk) 20:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I graduated in a different year than my last college yearbook is. Perhaps it's the same for FDR. What matters is what independent reliable sources say. Please direct inquires about the FDR article to its talk page, Talk:Franklin D. Roosevelt. 331dot (talk) 20:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

He graduated in three years, so 1903, according to the FDR Presidential Library and Museum, but he did stay a fourth year, taking some graduate courses, which may sorta explain why he is included in the class of 1904. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Now added to the article, with sources. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Best wikiproject for Lockdown Files

Hey, was interested in some advice on editing this page as announcements continue. Is there a good wikiproject for this sort of page. I normally hang out on WP:MED and WP:LAW but this is a little more current affairs than medicine. Talpedia (talk) 22:03, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Talpedia. The talk page Talk:Lockdown Files lists five relevant WikiProjects. Will any of them do? ColinFine (talk) 22:57, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Is there an IPA pronunciation validator?

I occasionally encounter articles whose subjects are words that are confusing for Anglophones to pronounce (such as Guerciotti). I was thinking about adding IPA pronunciation guides for some of these words that I happen to be certain of the correct pronunciations for. It occurs to me that an IPA validator which one could input IPA symbols into, to be able to listen to ensure that those symbols are correct for the word, would be a very useful tool. I have not been able to find any such validator. Can anyone point me in the direction of such a thing (if it exists) or otherwise provide guidance for how I can ensure that the IPA symbols I use sound accurate? Thank you. Bricology (talk) 22:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bricology: If you use Template:IPAc-en to add the IPA pronunciations, each phoneme will display, when hovered over, an English word containing that phoneme (example: /ɡwɛərˈtʃɔːtiː/}. This works for displaying an Anglicized pronunciation, and you can preview your edit to make sure that the tooltips are showing what you intend. Displaying the authentic Italian pronunciation is a bit more complicated. Deor (talk) 23:01, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! That's very useful information. Bricology (talk) 00:16, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bricology: Try a google search for IPA readers. You get lost of results. I just did this and then tried one online one [4]. It worked well on two samples. I have no way to evaluate if it is better or worse than others. -Arch dude (talk) 23:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! That the search parameters I used didn't produce the magic results, so I appreciate that link. Cheers! Bricology (talk) 00:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Deletion

I created an article in my sandbox on the BLP Sue Galloway. In the few days that it took me to do so, another editor created the same article. I accidentally moved it to the wrong place: Wikipedia:Sue_Galloway Can someone speedy delete it? Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 22:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@maineartists: you have already placed the g7 tag. an admin will delete it soon enough. lettherebedarklight晚安 00:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

March 8

deleted page

I am new to Wikipedia. I started drafting a page on Sandbox and it has now been deleted because I have apparently contravened copywrite. I had put close to twenty hours in and would like to have the page restored so I can improve it and remove anything including rewriting or removing anything that is copywrite. Is it possible to have a deleted page restored?~~~~ Vistadelsol (talk) 00:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Vistadelsol A copyright violation will not be restored. 331dot (talk) 00:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@vistadelsol: not in this case. due to united states law, we cannot host any copyrighted materials. start from a blank draft and make sure to not copy text from other sources. lettherebedarklight晚安 00:46, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

vistadelsol, do you consider yourself authorized to reproduce the content of the website laurelmckenzie.au? If so, please briefly explain how you are authorized. -- Hoary (talk) 02:14, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I would like to know why my draft can't be submitted.

My draft couldn't be submitted and I don't know why. CARLITOAHUISA (talk) 02:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

CARLITOAHUISA, do you mean Draft:Winner Airways? If so, did you click on the blue "Resubmit" button? If you did, then what happened? -- Hoary (talk) 04:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

It worked now, I think I didn't fill in one of the blanks. CARLITOAHUISA (talk) 04:33, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, CARLITOAHUISA. You need to provide some references to reliable, independent sources that devote significant coverage to the airline. Passing mentions are of no value in establishing notability. The references need not be in English. Chinese would be fine. Cullen328 (talk) 07:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Links

1) Is it better to link the search term with a red link to an article that doesn't exist or to link with a blue link to an article that explains some or the basics of the linked word? Red linking would seem to be clearly weaker for readers.

2) Do red links still lower the quality of the article? Namely, in one vote for a good article, half considered the red links to be a weakness. 2001:2003:F643:6A00:65DD:5020:12A4:9132 (talk) 08:42, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Your questions look very reasonable but I don't think that they have very simple answers. Meanwhile: Question 1: you don't mention a third option: not linking anywhere. If you consider this, you have three options. Which of the three I'd take would depend on the particular situation. Question 2: not straightforwardly, no. However, there's no point redlinking to imaginable topics that are unlikely to have viable articles any time soon. I'd not heard of voting for "Good Articles" (or for [lowercase] good articles); which vote was this? -- Hoary (talk) 08:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

1a) You are right. There is also option 4: don't write about the topic at all. 1b) You are right. Specific situation: list of features with 8 names, 7 of which are blue and 1 red. 2) That article had no links to fictional objects, it was a high level science article. 3) This was an article in my country, where Wikipedia guidelines prohibit linking to articles in English Wikipedia. 2001:2003:F643:6A00:615E:C764:4827:ABFB (talk) 09:28, 8 March 2023 (UTC)