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Trump's Truth Social borrows term "unified Reich" from Wikipedia

Where do they get these quotes? In this recent case, Truth Social posted a video seemingly from the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign that mixed images of the former U.S. president with openly fake news headlines. The trouble started when the Associated Press noticed that "at least one of the headlines flashing in the video appears to be text that is copied verbatim from a Wikipedia entry on World War I: 'German industrial strength and production had significantly increased after 1871, driven by the creation of a unified Reich.'"[n 1] The Trump campaign press secretary told AP "This was not a campaign video, it was created by a random account online and reposted by a staffer who clearly did not see the word, while the President was in court." [1]

But the video was not from some unknown rando, according to the New York Times. It was made by Brenden Dilley and a group that calls itself the "Dilley Meme Team". They have worked with Trump before, including the well-known 'God made Trump' campaign video. On another video, according to the Times, Trump sent them suggested edits, which the Meme Team then incorporated into the video. They used a video background template from Envato in the unified Reich video, which contains the background "news articles". Envato seems to have picked up the offending sentence from Wikipedia.

The AP story, in addition to being run by major US news outlets like ABC News, and global media like The Times of Israel, was covered as secondary reporting by the Wall Street Journal, Politico, Axios, The Guardian and Reuters which noted the Wikipedia text connection, as did Newsweek's article Where Trump's 'Unified Reich' Reference Came From.

So where did Wikipedia's sentence come from? Before July 8, 2009, there had been a sentence in World War I#Background about the growth of German industrial power, but it didn't mention any connection to the founding of the Second Reich in 1871. But the July 8 edit made this connection through the 1871 unification of Germany without mentioning the words "unified" or "Reich". Over the next 13 years, the sentence was rewritten - expanded and contracted - several times, with "unified" and "Reich" each appearing and then disappearing at least once, but apparently never appearing together. Since December 2021, "unified" has stayed in the article. "Reich" and the current word order then appeared on November 15, 2022.[n 2] – B, S

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  1. ^ We confirm this is the first sentence at World War I#Arms race at the time of writing – Signpost ed. maybe just link Wayback Machine
  2. ^ revision 1122080181

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One thing that constantly bugs me every time the media brings up trumps talk page is that no one every bothers to point out the massive current consensus list, a feature that didn’t exist until his presidency. It would be nice to see it mentioned in at least one major news publication or broadcast, since it helps serve an important role in prevent the constant rehashing of arguments or proposals for main space edits. 174.231.19.167 (talk) 17:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Just updating the count on the RfC on including "Trump is a convicted felon" on the first line (as of the end of June 7). The raw count (without taking account of fine points like "Support but wait until Melania comments") 134 supports for including, 93 oppose including on 1st line. Somebody should recheck my count of course, counting to 134 is tougher than it might seem!
  • On the topic of the RfC (which I won't contribute to directly)
    • Folks have missed a few points - e.g. the prior point 50 on the current consensus list is now grossly out of date. A post-presidential conviction changes everything, we are now in a (brave?) new world. A new consensus can and will form, and it should be considered de novo. The old consensus is almost irrelevant.
    • There's no general rule that says convictions can't be mentioned in the first line, but the first line should reflect how people define the person, what he is best known for. It's quite likely that people in 10 years time will consider "convicted felon" or Trump's general contempt of the law, or of honesty in general, to be a defining feature. It may take some time, but this needs to be settled by consensus, the editors' opinions alone, since the facts are incontrovertible. Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:14, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Orphans are not "invisible", the vast majority of traffic to WP is from external search engines. Mach61 12:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I generally tell newbie editors that "Wikipedia is an iceberg. 99% of it is underwater, invisible" referring to page histories, talk pages, user pages, project pages, policy pages, image pages and other pages not ordinarily found in Google searches. Jim.henderson (talk) 23:06, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • His latest article strengthens my opinion that Stephen Harrison is the best reporter covering Wikipedia on an ongoing basis, at least in English. Cullen328 (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I like Omer Benjakob too, they both have a significant understanding of the WP-world. But taste differs, some may prefer Andrew Orlowski or Hava Mendelle (new since last year, afaik). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Il était une fois Wikipedia means Once upon a time Wikipedia". Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:13, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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