Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring
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Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.
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User:HouseplantHobbyist reported by User:NebY (Result: Blocked one week)
Page: Lucy Letby (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: HouseplantHobbyist (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 21:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237439917 by Gumlau (talk) Due weight and quotes have already been given to that Guardian article"
- Consecutive edits made from 19:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC) to 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- 19:13, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Removed from intro per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper. This gives recent news reports, which themselves are disputed, far too much prominence in the intro"
- 19:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Range of issues here that need to be addressed, some of these things are already undergoing on an ongoing discussion on talk. Some other problems with POV commentary and lack of sources for parts"
- 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "No this is still under disupte and discussion at Talk:Lucy Letby#RSEDITORIAL. It may be that it is restored but not yet"
- 19:54, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Removed from intro per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper. This gives recent news reports, which themselves are disputed, far too much prominence in the intro"
- 07:44, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237127569 by PerSeAnd (talk) Please see WP:BLPRESTORE and WP:ONUS. Continued reversions will also mean you are in breach of WP:3RR, which I have already warned you about. There is also an ongoing talk page discussion already, so there can be no excuse for more"
- 07:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237125147 by PerSeAnd (talk) Yes it is, look again"
- 06:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "See talk page discussion in which this content is currently in dispute"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
User was warned about edit-warring on 27 May 2024[1] and 19 July 2024[2], both times about this article (the only one Houseplant Hobbyist has edited in the last 6 months). They were reported on 20 July 2024 and the article protected for 2 days.[3] They have continued to discuss at Talk:Lucy Letby, where they are in dispute with several editors, none of whom are in agreement with HouseplantHobbyist. They have made five reverts, of different material by various editors, in about two hours. They justified two of them in edit summaries as "undergoing an ongoing discussion" and "still under dispute and discussion", but this looks more like claiming to have a veto so long as they keep posting on the talk page. NebY (talk) 22:24, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- User:NebY, whilst you were making this report I had just updated the article to attempt to incorporate a large amount of the content that editors wanted in, just in a more appropriate and NPOV way: [4]. If you had just waited a minute, you could have worked with my reinstation of some form of the content I removed in those reversions. previous reversions. If I hadn't already done this big edit which involved multiple self-reversions, I would self-revert my own edits. But as you can see, a lot of that stuff that I reverted before I have now restored in what seems to me to be a much more NPOV way. Let me demonstrate how some of those reversions have now been restored by myself:
- 1 [5] "See talk page discussion in which this content is currently in dispute" - that content has now been restored in a slightly reduced way with the most recent edit: [6]
- 2 [7] "Undid revision 1237125147 by PerSeAnd (talk) Yes it is, look again" - see above
- 3 [8] "Undid revision 1237127569 by PerSeAnd (talk) Please see WP:BLPRESTORE and WP:ONUS. Continued reversions will also mean you are in breach of WP:3RR, which I have already warned you about. There is also an ongoing talk page discussion already, so there can be no excuse for more" - see above
- 4 [9] "No this is still under disupte and discussion at Talk:Lucy Letby#RSEDITORIAL. It may be that it is restored but not yet" - see above
- 5 [10] "Range of issues here that need to be addressed, some of these things are already undergoing on an ongoing discussion on talk. Some other problems with POV commentary and lack of sources for parts" - My most recent edit [11] re-incorporated some of that content, e.g. the Dr Hammond part in Private Eye, which I specifically went out to find a separate secondary source for to back up and this time added back in with that
- 6 These two - [12] and [13] Removed from intro per Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a newspaper. This gives recent news reports, which themselves are disputed, far too much prominence in the intro - are actually just one revert, I just had to repeat it because it got lost in the temporary rollbacking I did here: [14].
- In short, most of those reverts I did I then self-reverted as part of one big edit here: [15] that attempted to incorporate much of what those reverted edit's had expressed, but in what I thought was a much more NPOV and balanced way, with appropriate sourcing and wording. Yes I have probably done a few too many reversions, but I've also not partially self-reverted in doing that big edit incorporating a lot of the previously reverted content. HouseplantHobbyist (talk) 22:56, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yesterday, 28 July 2024, you gave a 3RR warning to another editor.[16] You should read it. NebY (talk) 22:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 22:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
User:Avatar317 reported by User:VQuakr (Result: Declined)
Page: ThorCon nuclear reactor (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Avatar317 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 23:05, 26 July 2024
- 23:23, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237240527 by VQuakr (talk) Contested content doesn't belong in an article unless there is CONSENSUS for it to be there. AGAIN: Per WP:ONUS: "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.""
- 19:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237214679 by VQuakr (talk) Unless an Independent Source mentions the viewpoint of UCS, the mere existence of UCS and them publishing content on their website about this reactor does NOT make it acceptable to have in this article. It WP:UNDUEly represents their opinion. Per WP:ONUS: "The responsibility for achieving consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 20:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "/* WP:EW */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 18:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Neutrality of this article */ re"
- 20:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Neutrality of this article */ re"
Comments:
Ongoing edit warring behavior at this and other articles. Gaming 3RR and stonewalling per edit summary at [17]. Previously warned for similar behavior at Linear no-threshold model (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Shouting. VQuakr (talk) 00:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Declined Citing WP:ONUS is not a particularly unambiguous example of gaming 3RR or stonewalling, and the previous warning alluded to above was from VQuakr after Avatar317 made a single revert to another article 10 days ago. If this issue merited a block, both of you would be subject to it, but it doesn't seem warrant that at this time. @VQuakr and Avatar317: I would highly suggest both of you cease reverting on this article until there is a consensus for or against, using WP:DR if necessary. Continued reverting may likely result in blocks, even if it is only one additional revert. - Aoidh (talk) 17:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
User:Ajnh0320 reported by User:Czello (Result: Blocked 24 hours)
Page: Alternative for Germany (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ajnh0320 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 23:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Ideology is revised to National conservatism, Social conservatism, Right-wing populism, Ultraconservatism, Russophilia, Euroscepticism, Identitarianism, Nativism, German nationalism, Reactionism, Anti-immigration, Anti-feminism, Christian nationalism, Anti-communism, Economic liberalism. Factions is revised to Neo-fascism, Neo-Nazism, Völkisch nationalism, and Pan-Germanism. Please Do not revert to the original document."
- 12:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Ideology is revised to National conservatism, Social conservatism, Right-wing populism, Ultraconservatism, Russophilia, Euroscepticism, Identitarianism, Nativism, German nationalism, Reactionism, Anti-immigration, Anti-feminism, Christian nationalism, Anti-communism, Economic liberalism. Factions is revised to Neo-fascism, Neo-Nazism, Völkisch nationalism, and Pan-Germanism."
- 11:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""
- 10:04, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 11:10, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Alternative for Germany */ new section"
- 12:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Alternative for Germany."
- 19:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC) "/* Ideology warring */ new section"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Ajnh0320 is a relatively new account who has a habit of mass-changing political ideoligies (WP:IDWAR) on pages. Their changes are always unsourced,[18][19][20][21] contradict existing sources,[22] delete existing sources,[23][24] and ignore comments requesting editors to get consensus before changing.[25] Despite numerous attempts at communication they've failed to respond. — Czello (music) 07:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- He is also in an investigation for being a sockpuppet. One of the other sockpuppets (Hidolo) with the same owner has been permanently blocked for constant edit warring (on en.wiki) Odideum (talk) 08:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Aoidh (talk) 17:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
User:143.159.107.27 reported by User:Escape Orbit (Result: Blocked 24h)
Page: Joseph Lister (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 143.159.107.27 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 10:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "The National Portrait Gallery calls him English, the site Histiry Today does, the National Institute of Health does and his father on here is called English!!! His surname search on wiki puts his name as origin of English in the word box!!!"
- 01:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "his father has been called english since he was first entered on here! i can’t see what the issue is! he was born and raised here just like his father. if the surgeon Hunter is called Scottish and not british then lister should be called English. hunter originated with the saxon’s who migrated thru these isles. admins are bias and prejudice and have been in the job too long that they have gone beyond all common sense and human decency. it’s farcical and petty. no wonder people do not trust o..."
- 21:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""
- 04:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 09:45, 25 July 2024 (UTC) on User talk:143.159.107.27 "/* Ethnicity */ new section"
Comments:
Has repeatedly changed nationality over the last week, mainly on the basis of the origins of his name. Attempts on their talk page, but refuses to discuss other than in edit summary rants. Escape Orbit (Talk) 11:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 17:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Seems to be still at it. scope_creepTalk 22:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 1 week Jauerbackdude?/dude. 22:31, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
User:Nswix reported by User:ProdigyUpdates (Result: No violation)
Page: Belal Muhammad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: List of UFC champions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Nswix (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 20:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "that doesnt establish notability. dont change until a concencus is formed"
- 01:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "per MOS:ETHNICITY"
- 20:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237643110 by ProdigyUpdates"
- 19:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC) "Those are that way because it is proven that they have that nationality. not because of what they choose to walkout with. this isnt politically motivated, just keep it consistent with their nationalities."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 18:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC) on Talk:List_of_UFC_champions "Belal Muhammad's Flag: new section"
Comments:
Continuously changes nationality and flags on athlete's page and various UFC related pages despite consensus already being reached on various talk pages. They are also violating MOS:ETHNICITY since notability of ethnicity has been clearly established on Talk:Belal_Muhammad, 30 July 2024 (UTC) ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- None of these are three reverts. Nswix (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just because you did not hit the 'undo' button to revert the change does not take away from the obvious intent and ultimate result. ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Consensus on this issue has most definitely not been reached yet. Belal has been listed under the American flag on Wikipedia for over 3 years now. Rcpilot9 (talk) 21:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Eight years. His page has said American since it was created in 2016 Nswix (talk) 21:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
No violation on either article. Bbb23 (talk) 21:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
User:ProdigyUpdates reported by User:Nswix (Result: Blocked 2 weeks)
Page: Belal Muhammad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: UFC rankings (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: Ultimate Fighting Championship (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: List of UFC records (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: ProdigyUpdates (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Diff
Comments:
Has dug their heels in about an American athlete of Palestinian ethnicity, who ‘must be labeled as Palestinian, because they walk out with an Palestinian flag’, despite there being no evidence of Palestinian nationality and it not meeting MOS:ETHNICITY. I get its a hot topic, but we cant just keep reverting pages that have been uncontentious for years, because you decided its not right. Nswix (talk) 21:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- User continues to spread misinformation. I have never used that quote. This athlete is listed by UFC and ESPN as a Palestinian fighter which is enough to establish notability. I'm afraid the user may be using their personal political motivation to discredit these obvious facts. ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have over 15,000 edits in the martial arts space, none of which have ever been described as politically motivated. You have 200, most in the last couple of day and all concerning one athlete. Nswix (talk) 21:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- All the more unfortunate that as an experienced Wikipedian, you cannot keep your personal bias aside when dealing with uncontested facts that clearly meet MOS:ETHNICITY standards and all reputable UFC and ESPN websites listing the athlete as Palestinian. ProdigyUpdates (talk) 21:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, ProdigyUpdates did not violate 3RR on any of the articles listed. Another admin may be willing to evaluate PU's overall conduct and whether it's sanctionable; my recommendation is that this be brought to ANI. I should also mention that at List of UFC champions both PU and Rcpilot9 have violated 3RR.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- It was just at AIV, they pointed us here. Do we really have to play this out in a third place? Nswix (talk) 22:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 2 weeks ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
User:Jchs08 reported by User:Elijah Palmer (Result: Blocked 48 hours + another indefinitely)
2024 Democratic Party vice presidential candidate selection (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Jchs08 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [26]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]
Comments:
Blocked – for a period of 48 hours, plus Legobro99 indefinitely. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
User:87.252.38.14 reported by User:Ponyo (Result: Blocked one week)
Page: Philip Bobbitt (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 87.252.38.14 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [37]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [38]
Comments:
- A page block would be sufficient - they're making arguments on their user talk page that should be made at the article talk page.-- Ponyobons mots 22:50, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- There have been two additional reverts since I provided notification of this report.-- Ponyobons mots 22:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of one week for edit-warring and the IP is a webhost. Bbb23 (talk) 00:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
User:DragionTech007 reported by User:FlightTime (Result:Blocked by Ponyo )
Page: Cynthia Rothrock (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: DragionTech007 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 13:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Outdated image - Undid revision 1237978648 by FlightTime (talk)"
- 13:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237978177 by FlightTime (talk)"
- 13:08, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237429330 by FlightTime (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 13:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Disruption 2."
- 13:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Cynthia Rothrock."
- 13:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "/* August 2024 */ + Section header"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
DragionTech007 is now engaging in very obvious WP:QUACK sockpuppetry[39] — Czello (music) 15:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
User:Le Blue Dude reported by User:Hornpipe2 (Result: Warning, Semi)
Page: Sinfest (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Le Blue Dude (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:26, 31 July 2024 (UTC) ""
- 19:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC) "Well, how about a compromise? We keep the link but put it behind a trigger warning so that people actually have a warning."
- 17:15, 31 July 2024 (UTC) "There is no 'sitewide' consensus about this link. There is probably no other article in this situation where the article does not mention the potential harm that could be caused by viewing the link. It is unfair to include a link that could cause harm without including a warning"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
User persistently trying to alter the infobox to remove or alter a link to a site, despite being told repeatedly that this is not how links / infoboxes work Hornpipe2 (talk) 14:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- sorry I don't know how to use Twinkle I guess! I wanted to add that there is discussion on the talk page about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sinfest#Shouldn't_be_a_direct_link - but that the user continues to make changes despite being told that this isn't how it works Hornpipe2 (talk) 14:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Elno #2 Le Blue Dude (talk) 15:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- guess you missed the bolded text at the top of WP:ELNO then Hornpipe2 (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Elno #2 Le Blue Dude (talk) 15:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Frankly, I disagree with your assessment. In the deletion section and also in the talk page this has been discussed and the general consensus is that the link should not be included because the page does not mention the extreme anti-Semitic content of the link in question anywhere on the page. It is harmful to expose people to extreme anti-semitic content without warning. Le Blue Dude (talk) 15:00, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will let an administrator weigh in on this, but ultimately the back-and-forth is out of control on that page and needs some intervention. Hornpipe2 (talk) 15:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. This is part of why there’s been motion to delete the page. The contents of Sinfest include extreme anti-semitic content and Covid misinformation and the article provides no mention. The sooner an admin sees this and either suspends Wp:or or deletes the article the better. Le Blue Dude (talk) 15:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- That is not the consensus of the talk page at all. — Czello (music) 15:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Two vs one, and in the delete page more Le Blue Dude (talk) 15:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- First, Wikipedia isn't a straw poll. Numbers don't mean anything, it's the arguments that matter - and the arguments are particularly weak right now. Secondly I've just waded in, so it's not even 2v1 now. Third, the arguments on the AfD are about deletion, not whether a link should be included. — Czello (music) 15:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- And now it's 3v2 in favour of inclusion, so that's that. — Czello (music) 15:19, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- First, Wikipedia isn't a straw poll. Numbers don't mean anything, it's the arguments that matter - and the arguments are particularly weak right now. Secondly I've just waded in, so it's not even 2v1 now. Third, the arguments on the AfD are about deletion, not whether a link should be included. — Czello (music) 15:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Two vs one, and in the delete page more Le Blue Dude (talk) 15:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will let an administrator weigh in on this, but ultimately the back-and-forth is out of control on that page and needs some intervention. Hornpipe2 (talk) 15:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Result: User:Le Blue Dude is warned they may be blocked if they revert the article again without getting a prior consensus on the article talk page. I'm also semiprotecting the article. EdJohnston (talk) 16:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
User:FlightTime reported by User:DragionTech007 (Result:Indef partial block of reporter)
Page: Cynthia Rothrock (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: FlightTime (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 13:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237978508 by DragionTech007 (talk)"
- 13:14, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1237977812 by DragionTech007 (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 13:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Caution: Disruption 2."
- 13:15, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Cynthia Rothrock."
- 13:17, 1 August 2024 (UTC) "/* August 2024 */ + Section header"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
User: FlightTime keeps attempting to revert and insert an outdated infobox image (circa 2018) on Wikipage. Newer image (Jan 2024) has been restored.
- Any passing admin should note that this is clearly a retaliatory report for the discussion above. DragionTech007 is edit warring to insert their own photograph which clearly does not have consensus. — Czello (music) 15:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- OP is now engaging in very obvious WP:QUACK sockpuppetry[40] — Czello (music) 15:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've partial blocked DragionTech007 indefinitely from Cynthia Rothrock and blocked their two
Confirmed socks.-- Ponyobons mots 16:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
User:Control-alt-delete reported by User:Scope creep (Result: Declined)
Page: German-American Petroleum Company (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Control-alt-delete (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:22:59, 29 July 2024
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 22:59, 29 July 2024 Addition of unsourced content copied without attribution from another article. Removed it. Left a message on editors talk asking why they were adding unsourced content.
- 2 August 2024 Reverted and added back unsourced content.
- 00:48, 2 August 2024 Reverted again and added the unsourced content. Removed it. Left a message on editors talk page asking why they are adding unsourced content.
- 00:49, 2 August 2024 Left an abusive message on my talk page.
- 00:57, 2 August 2024 Reverted again and added unsourced content
- 01:03, 2 August 2024 Reverted again and left an abusive message " Still trying to add citations but this moron wants to cause edit conflicts"
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [diff]
Comments:
Left two messages warning the editor over attribution and adding unsourced content. Editor has WP:CIR issues. Editor has been unncessarily abusive. scope_creepTalk 00:25, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- From the get-go this user left very passive aggressive remarks to me. I am still actively adding the citations that are needed. I am thankful that this user spotted the need for citations, however continuously rolling back my edits whilst I am literally in the middle of adding them is highly obstructive. Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 00:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Scope creep, Special:Diff/1238073380 and Special:Diff/1238074434 have probably not been necessary, and the former lacked an explanation. Special:Diff/1238073057 appears to be inaccurate ("Every sentence that is added to Wikipedia needs a reference", "illegal") and unnecessarily hostile (if there are competence issues, merely informing the user about their existence is unlikely to cause any change).
- Control-alt-delete, "this moron" is rather actively aggressive, so I guess you're now even.
- I think whether administrative action is needed depends on whether Scope creep is fine with the result of the edits that followed the edit war, or if there is still disagreement about the inclusion of that paragraph. In that case, I'd enforce WP:ONUS (and potentially WP:BURDEN), requiring Control-alt-delete to gain a consensus for the addition on the article's talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with everything you're saying. I admit, I did call him a moron in response to his own tone. I am now finished editing. I have done my best to add good citations, but I would be happy to improve them if needed. I copied some citations from existing citations on existing Wikipedia articles. I have also added 2 new ones from the US military. Please do let me know if you see something I could improve further. Many thanks Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 00:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would also like to point out that @Scope creep claims that this is "his article" and he "doesn't want other people working on it". Tough! That's not keeping with the spirit of Wikipedia. I have been a user for probably a decade or two. I rarely edit, but I do not lack the competence. He is far too attached to "his" article. See my talk page for his ridiculous standpoint: User talk:Control-alt-delete - Wikipedia Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 01:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- "Articles I worked on" is a bit different than "my article", and the indirect ownership claims are a relatively small concern to me in this discussion. I'd be more concerned about the wording "low-quality junk", but at the moment, I primarily wonder about Scope creep's opinion about the current state of the article. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is also telling: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive394#c-DovidBenAvraham-2019-08-17T17:08:00.000Z-User:Scope creep reported by User:Lqqhh (Result: both editors advised, discussio Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 01:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- "I've experienced scope_creep's over-protectiveness of articles" from another user in the same thread Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 01:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- There have been dozens of issues with this user previously, including issuing him bans:
- scope creep - Search results - Wikipedia Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 01:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Control-alt-delete, enough please. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: The editor shouldn't be editing articles. They are not competent. The editor edit-warred to restore unsourced, unlinked, non-attributed content twice instead of discussing it when it was reverted, like normal folk. This is egregious and a clear competency issue. Not being able to interact is problematic. Since I stopped doing anti-vandalism work and stopped working in afc/npp/afd and coin, I tend not to check my watchlist too often and it was sheer chance that I looked at it. It would have sat there unsourced even now, if I hand'nt seen it and left a comment about it. Editors who have to be forced to do the correct thing, shouldn't be on here. The content was copied across really quickly and I think the refs haven't been checked, which are a complete mess, which I'll need to fix on Sunday. The articles now reads 1938 stuff, 1945 stuff, back to 1939 stuff. No attempt to integrate the new content. It has bare urls in a fully cited article, hanging sentences with no closing clauses, a main article tag with no section header. "The introduction of Stutthof concentration camp" with no attached context. I don't even know why that is there. No units for the barrels of oil. It is mess. I will need to fix this. Some stuff will be removed. The editors nature is try and force it through. Its Ani the next time and a block recommendation. The comments above are really really shabby. It sadden's me. The editor jumped to try smear me instead of focusing on the content. Its not a laughing matter. I have no time for this editor. 20:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have tried to add information to the article, as there was nothing in it about their history during WWII. I did try to talk to you about this on your talk page, but you did not want to talk, you reverted continuously instead - whilst I was actively trying to edit it, you forced multiple edit conflicts. You caused the disruption, you appear to have a history of causing disruption, and you continue to cause a disruption. I am not "forcing content in", I am trying to add key information to the article where there is a gaping hole. I would be pleased to have some help with rewording it, and I am keen to see your results on Sunday, so thank you. Please don't think this is a personal attack that I've edited your article, I hold no grudges, I am just trying to improve your article. Relax - life is good! Sincerely, Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 23:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ToBeFree: The editor shouldn't be editing articles. They are not competent. The editor edit-warred to restore unsourced, unlinked, non-attributed content twice instead of discussing it when it was reverted, like normal folk. This is egregious and a clear competency issue. Not being able to interact is problematic. Since I stopped doing anti-vandalism work and stopped working in afc/npp/afd and coin, I tend not to check my watchlist too often and it was sheer chance that I looked at it. It would have sat there unsourced even now, if I hand'nt seen it and left a comment about it. Editors who have to be forced to do the correct thing, shouldn't be on here. The content was copied across really quickly and I think the refs haven't been checked, which are a complete mess, which I'll need to fix on Sunday. The articles now reads 1938 stuff, 1945 stuff, back to 1939 stuff. No attempt to integrate the new content. It has bare urls in a fully cited article, hanging sentences with no closing clauses, a main article tag with no section header. "The introduction of Stutthof concentration camp" with no attached context. I don't even know why that is there. No units for the barrels of oil. It is mess. I will need to fix this. Some stuff will be removed. The editors nature is try and force it through. Its Ani the next time and a block recommendation. The comments above are really really shabby. It sadden's me. The editor jumped to try smear me instead of focusing on the content. Its not a laughing matter. I have no time for this editor. 20:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Control-alt-delete, enough please. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- "I've experienced scope_creep's over-protectiveness of articles" from another user in the same thread Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 01:22, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is also telling: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive394#c-DovidBenAvraham-2019-08-17T17:08:00.000Z-User:Scope creep reported by User:Lqqhh (Result: both editors advised, discussio Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 01:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- "Articles I worked on" is a bit different than "my article", and the indirect ownership claims are a relatively small concern to me in this discussion. I'd be more concerned about the wording "low-quality junk", but at the moment, I primarily wonder about Scope creep's opinion about the current state of the article. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would also like to point out that @Scope creep claims that this is "his article" and he "doesn't want other people working on it". Tough! That's not keeping with the spirit of Wikipedia. I have been a user for probably a decade or two. I rarely edit, but I do not lack the competence. He is far too attached to "his" article. See my talk page for his ridiculous standpoint: User talk:Control-alt-delete - Wikipedia Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 01:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with everything you're saying. I admit, I did call him a moron in response to his own tone. I am now finished editing. I have done my best to add good citations, but I would be happy to improve them if needed. I copied some citations from existing citations on existing Wikipedia articles. I have also added 2 new ones from the US military. Please do let me know if you see something I could improve further. Many thanks Control-alt-delete ★ user◾talk◾favs 00:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Declined Ordinarily I'd be blocking both editors, but here C-a-D said in their edit summaries they were planning to add cites in the next edit ... which did nothing to deter Scope Creep from reverting within minutes. This is not how to assume good faith.
Scope, not everyone likes to add cites with the text. If someone says they're going to do it in their next edit, give them a little time. Don't revert away like some malfunctioning cyborg. Daniel Case (talk) 03:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
User:104.218.69.202 reported by User:Bsoyka (Result: Blocked 24h)
Page: Rachel Cruze (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 104.218.69.202 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 16:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1238189408 by Bsoyka (talk)"
- 15:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1238085879 by Bsoyka (talk)"
- 02:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC) "Undid revision 1238085879 by Bsoyka (talk)"
- 01:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 02:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC) "Warning: Disruptive editing on Rachel Cruze."
- 15:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC) "/* August 2024 */ reply"
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 02:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC) on User talk:104.218.69.202 "Warning: Disruptive editing on Rachel Cruze."
Comments:
I'm also convinced this might be vandalism, especially based on this edit. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 16:10, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 03:46, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
User:Воскресенский Петр reported by User:Altenmann (Result: Already blocked, as noted)
Page: Olga Tobreluts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Воскресенский Петр (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [41]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [46]
Comment: While I was filing this report, the user was blocked for other violations, but I decided to keep this as a record. - Altenmann >talk 18:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Altenmann >talk 18:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Already blocked for a period of 72 hours by Cullen328 for persistently adding unsourced content and making false accusations of vandalism. Daniel Case (talk) 03:49, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
User:TurkeyAndHungry reported by User:CommunityNotesContributor (Result: Blocked 72 hours)
Page: 2024 England riots (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: TurkeyAndHungry (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts: August 2-3
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: link
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: diff
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: diff
Comments:
New single-issue editor is edit-warring despite warning on talk page and discussion opened on article page. CNC (talk) 00:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- He made a list of changes that he wanted implemented on the TalkPage, so I added all of the changes he asked for and updated the article. Beyond that he has not said why he dislikes my changes after already catering to his requests. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TurkeyAndHungry (talk • contribs) 00:08, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- So I am not in violation of the 3R rule because I basically implemented all the changes he wanted. TurkeyAndHungry (talk) 00:09, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, no, you literally clicked the "Undo" button 4 times. It's hard to find a clearer 3RR violation than that. C F A 💬 00:11, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Could someone point out if I should bother to respond to that? It's not clear if it's worthwhile. CNC (talk) 00:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- ... And now you're up to 6 reverts. C F A 💬 00:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 72 hours. Bbb23 (talk) 00:24, 3 August 2024 (UTC)