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September 16

How do you link inside your page to your references

Hi, I am trying to find out how you make your references in the text look like [1] [2] etc... and then when you click on the number it automatically scrolls down to your reference list? Someone please help? Isa Alcala 00:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Add a section near the bottom of the article with text like this:

==References==

{{Reflist}}

Now, where you want a reference link to appear in the text, cite your source like so: <ref>text of reference</ref> Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources for more information.--Fuhghettaboutit 00:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

For a specific example, just go to any random article with a reference and take a look how it was done there. Useight 00:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

article on antarctic ice shelf

This heading was added by 172.166.159.35 with no text. Do you have a question about an article? If so then please give the exact name. There is no article called "Antarctic ice shelf". PrimeHunter 00:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a Ross ice shelf article. Also see List_of_glaciers#Antarctica. --Teratornis 02:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

authorship

how does one determine the authorship of any given page? Martauwo 01:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Click on the "history" tab at the top of the page. That will show you each edit that has been made. Most pages have hundreds of edits by different people. -- Kesh 01:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Click the "history" tab at the top to see contributers to a page (there are often many). People who ask this are often interested in how to cite a Wikipedia article. Click "Cite this article" in the toolbox on the left to see how to cite an article in different styles. See also Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 01:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks Martauwo 02:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

me again, all i seem to be able to find when i look at this history is the history of the discussion, not the actual authors of the article - can you please advise? thanks Martauwo 02:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Each line of the history (though they may have edit summaries describing their changes) is actually a change that was made to the article. Discussion of articles takes place on their talk pages (see discussion tab at the top of the article). Happy editing. Into The Fray ^T/C 02:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. To figure out from whom an article originated, generally speaking, you can simply scan all the way back to the oldest edit and there's the original editor. Sometimes this doesn't work if the page has been moved, though. Into The Fray ^T/C 02:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are a collaborative effort. There's no single author: every person who has ever edited the article is considered one of the authors. Like PrimeHunter mentioned, if you're looking for this information to cite a Wikipedia article, you should instead click the "Cite this article" link on the left-hand side of the page for the correctly formatted information. -- Kesh 02:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

If you're getting the history of the discussion, make sure you're clicking on the history tab from the article's main page, not the talk page. --Ybbor^Talk 03:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

images

What is happening to all the images? Some of them include the flags of certain countries, but seriously. What is going on?!Kitty53 01:48, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

See above. There's a minor problem with the servers. It's being worked on. -- Kesh 01:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

editing page and it keeps going back

every time edit a page it changes back to the way it was?

why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maverickgallser (talk • contribs) 03:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

It looks like the article you are trying to edit, someone is reverting it. He seems to think you are vandalising the article by changing some of the information. I don't know if the information you're changing it to is true, or if the original info is true. If you cited any info you change, perhaps that would help keep your edits.

Also, don't forget to sign your comments by placing four tildes (~~~~) at the end of the comment. -- Matthew Edwards | talk | Contribs 03:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

An editor seems to be considering your edits to be vandalism. I'd suggest you check the edit history of the article you've been editing to see who has been "reverting" your edits (they'll usually leave an edit summary with the words "RV" or "revert" in it) and contacting them for the reasoning. You may also want to check our policies on biographies of living people and conflict of interest. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Redirect

Will you please let me know when the "Okiayu" redirect is ready?

Kitty53 03:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You are able to create the redirect yourself - go to the Okiayu page, and type #REDIRECT [[target page]] on the first line of the edit box, then save the page. You don't need to go through Articles for creation, as you're a registered user. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

the [edit] tag

Hi. I messed up my userpages. I'm transcluding a header page onto my other userspace pages, but since I've done that the [edit] link found next to each section title has disappeared. Is there a way of including the link manually? -- Matthew Edwards | talk | Contribs 03:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it. You had a "__NOEDITSECTION__" magic word at the top of your header, which was causing all pages using that header to remove their section edit links. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Halle Berry formatting problem

Help. I can't figure out how to fix the screwed up formatting at the bottom of the article. Clarityfiend 03:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

All fixed. :) Someone had removed a bracket at one point or another. GlassCobra 04:03, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Orobanchaceae page

I have done some editing on the Orobanchaceae page, including adding all the genera in that family (now 90 instead of 20 as was previously posted). Two genera automatically link to other pages, but they need editing. The first is the genus Centranthera that, for some reason, links to a page on orchids. This is not correct and it should not point to that page. The second problem is with the genus Melasma. This also refers to a skin condition. So, it needs a disambiguation, with the plant version of the word pointing to the correct page. The genus Striga also goes to a disambiguation page, but maybe could point directly to the plant page. Sorry, I don't know how to do these things! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickrent (talk • contribs) 04:20, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Editing for general editing instructions. See Help:Link for instructions on how to edit links. See: WP:DISAMBIG for information about disambiguation pages. If you are very new to Wikipedia editing, a more experienced editor will probably have to assist you with these problems. Tip: your question will be easier to understand if you add links to the article names you mention: Orobanchaceae, Centranthera, orchid, Melasma, and Striga. --Teratornis 07:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Problems with tables

I have noticed a lot of the deletion and editing template boxes aren't appearing properly any more. Has there been a change to them which my browser (the latest Mac OS version of Firefox) won't accept, or has someone been playing with them? JRG 05:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I think this may be related to the server problem reported above. It'll be fixed soon enough. GlassCobra 05:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess you didn't intend to write "tables" in the heading. Many template boxes have changed look recently after using {{Ambox}}. This is unrelated to the server problems and can be discussed at Template talk:Ambox.PrimeHunter 05:36, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Regarding purchase of XO-1

Hi, My name isTanya and I live in Australia. I recently heard about these great little laptop computers and as I have 2 young boys of my own, I am wonderering if you could tell me if these are availabe for purchase and if so what the cost is? Thankyou —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.229.21.155 (talk) 06:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia cannot help you with your personal needs in this case. I would recommend you investigate locally, or you can order laptops online from sites such as Amazon.com. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Since wikipedia is not for advertising, I doubt a particular brand laptop would have an article, so try google.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 06:15, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

See: One Laptop per Child. --Teratornis 07:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so we do not help with that sort of thing. If you have any questions relating to wikipedia, feel free to ask:)--SJP 07:37, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually the One Laptop per Child article should tell Tanya everything she needs to know about the XO-1, and indeed that is a fascinating project; the article even mentions that Wikipedia will be one of the featured applications on it (thus helping to fulfill the Great Leader's dream of providing a free encyclopedia of the highest quality to every human on Earth). While the XO-1 itself is not available for sale to individuals, similar computers such as the ASUS Eee PC are or will be. The instructions at the top of the Help desk say this page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, but the complexity of Wikipedia tends to overwhelm the short term memory of many visitors who are new to using it, rendering many of them temporarily blind to some of our instructions upon the first exposure (this is the psychological basis of the programmer's dictum, "Users don't read instructions," which isn't actually true, because the users are reading them, just not comprehending them on the first go; nonetheless, as Daniel Dennett says, every time we see or hear a message, our brains make another copy of it. It's just that anything which is sufficiently unfamiliar may need a number of copies before it sinks in to long term memory). Thus we get "inappropriate" questions on the Help desk every day, and we try to answer them nonetheless. In the case of Tanya's question, the answer was straightforward. I happened to watch a segment about the XO-1 on the 60 Minutes television show a few months ago, and at the time I looked it up on Wikipedia to get the details, so I knew the answer to her question. --Teratornis 16:48, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Citizenship of India for a foreign national refugee woman married to an Indian citizen

A Indian national male, has fallen in love with an iragi refugee in thailand. He wants to marry her and take her to India as his legally wedded wife. Can she get indian citizenship quickly on the basis of the marriage as well on the grounds that she is basically a refugee under UNHRC ?

The time frame required for the same may be advised too —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sainath kv (talk • contribs) 07:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

See the reference desk, or here is a thought, your local Thai embassy.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 07:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello:)

This is not the place where you ask questions like that. You are only suppose to ask questions about wikipedia here. I hope that you find the answer to your question though:)--SJP 07:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Warnings for external links

A number of months back, I saw where someone had removed warnings from some external links that stated that the links contained adult content or nudity. I seem to recall them citing some Wikipedia guideline or policy but I can't remember which one. It was basically some sort of NPOV guideline or some such thing. Can anyone point me in the direction of what it might have been? I removed some similar warnings the other day and they were put back. So if I remove them again, I'd like to have something to back up my actions. Dismas|^(talk) 07:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Was it this? That is the only policy I can think of. It does not say that we do not need to have warnings though. All it says is that wikipedia is not censored and may have content that is offensive to some people. I hope that helped:)--SJP 08:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I had forgotten about WP:NOT and that led me to a few other arguments for the removal of the warnings. Those were namely Wikipedia:Content disclaimer and Wikipedia:No disclaimers in articles. Thanks again, Dismas|^(talk) 08:21, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem:)--SJP 08:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

• It's reasonable to assume people know what they're gonna see if they search something in Wikipedia. If adult content is unexpected in said link, a warning may be a good idea to avoid embarrassing situations. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Links to organizations in the Samael Aun Weor article

I have a question concerning external links. In the Samael Aun Weor article a lot of links to different organizations and schools are added from time to time, and I'm not sure whether they should be there or not. Some of them also contain information that could be useful. As far as I can tell there are currently only two links there which are not at all about any particular organization. There is one organization that calls itself official, which is directed by the son of the subject of the article, but there has been so many divisions and splits so I don't know if that is relevant or not. I have tried to use WP:EL for guidance but can't find a resolution there. What would be the correct thing to do? Thank you. Anton H 09:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding a person with the same name as an existing article

I was trying to create an article on wildlife artist neil cox and there is a footballer with the same name so how can I create an article with an artist of the same name?? thanks -the saint —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdambaek (talk • contribs) 10:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:DISAM#Disambiguation_pages. The short of it, move existing page to say Neil Cox (footballer), create your article at Neil Cox (artist), use Neil Cox then as an disambiguation page. KTC 10:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

In such a case, as well as moving the article, is it desirable for the mover to update all the links to the article as well? DH85868993 22:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Flags images

At Bad_Girls_(TV_series)#Bad_Girls_around_the_world I don't see the actual flag of Belgium, nor the flag of Finland. It's just a border with inside written text "Flag of Belgium". Anyone else seeing this? Venullian 10:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Please add a new section header when asking question. This is an ongoing issue with the server that the developers / sys admin is aware of, and am looking into. KTC 10:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thought I did make a new section, sorry, I do know my way around wikipedia ;-) thanks for your reply, as long as they're aware of it ;-) Venullian 10:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Nope [1], I added the new section header [2]. :-) KTC 16:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem with credibility?

I have the following questions to Wikipedia administration which I hope to be answered. Background:
” I say this: BellMJ, in the month or two you have been here you have not contributed to any articles. I suggest you get some actual expeience researching and making contributions to articles that stand the test of time, and have more experience collaborating with editors working on aticles, before you try to comment on our core policies. SIrubenstein | Talk 11:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC) ”

1. Apart from the normal and civil conduct and behavior outlined by Wikipedia as stated in its policy: Are there other certain rules for the right of making a contribution with an opinion in Wikipedia? Am I missing something? ”try to comment on our core policies”? ”try”? Seems holy ground here.

2a. Are there certain places I must refrain from taking active part in?
2b. Am I expected to navigate in Wikipedia by my own interest, or by a pre set guide?

3. Must I have made a certain amount of contributions in Wikipedia to have the right to make a submission to a debate in any place in Wikipedia?

4.Must I have spent a certain time being registered in Wikipedia to have the right to make a submission to a debate in any place in Wikipedia?

5.Are there any COLLECTING POINTS OR SCORES in Wikipedia I must have collected first before receiving the right to make a submission to a debate in any place in Wikipedia?

I would be most thankful if these questions could be answered in clarity.
wkg/BMJ 13:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I am not an administrator; nevertheless, I hope that my input may be of some value to you. First, all users are welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia in the manner that suits them best as long as they respect the core policies. Second, while I can understand how you might read the words "try to" as belittling, one of our policies requires us to assume good faith. That sometimes means biting back our first responses and seeking clarification directly from the other editor. This ties into my third point: the first step of resolving disputes is always talking to the other editor. It would probably be better if you addressed the other editor him or herself. We need to be careful about unnecessarily escalating disputes. Good luck resolving this issue, and please remember that "raw text is ambiguous and often seems ruder than the same words coming from a person standing in front of you." :) --Moonriddengirl 13:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback Moonriddengirl. You seem to be a reasonable soul. In Wikipedia policy is (howevwer) also recommended this: before apelling to an obvious provocation: don't answer the insult. Take a break. Contemplate the situation, and try to find out eventual incepts for a friendly resolution. Then, be offensive when you think you know how to do it.

I would still like to know the Wikipedia administration answers to the questions.

NOTE: SLrubenstein and I, am in no way in a dispute, and I will refuse to initiate a such. It's just that I made a submission on the talk page No Original Research and which was met by the above quoted form. Obviously, SLrubensteins does not want my presence on that page. And I just wanted to know whether he is justified by Wikipedia administration to set out such a program.

Thanks anyway Moonriddengirl. --BMJ 13:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Good luck, then. :) I'll just note that Wikipedia's administrators may or may not monitor the help desk; it's a volunteer force. If you don't get an answer from one of them, that may well indicate that your question has been unseen. --Moonriddengirl 13:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Jises. Thank you again, Moonriddengirl. I might disappear, then, altogether in our famous cyberspace. Good Lord. Do you have any suggestions how to make my presence more Bright and Shining in front of the Wikipedia administration, my questions? --BMJ 14:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

First let me add with regards to Administrators that "the tools they are granted are technical and do not convey authority" (from Wikipedia:Administrators). However, if you want to seek one for feedback because of their experience, you can locate one to ask your question at list of administrators. --Moonriddengirl 14:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I will try on that way. wkg/BMJ 14:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

(undent) Realize that Wikipedia's policies and guidelines have already been extensively debated, and those who do not study history are sure to repeat it. Therefore, before suggesting any sort of foundational change to Wikipedia, you need to arm yourself with a solid understanding of how the policies came to be, and all the arguments and counterarguments that occurred in the past. (Try not to be like the theists who debate atheists without realizing all their arguments for the existence of God have been refuted for centuries.) Fortunately, Wikipedia is a tool for writing documents, and we use it to document just about everything we do. See WP:EIW#Pol for a list of links to pages describing Wikipedia's policies, how they came to be, the history of rejected proposals, and the mechanism for proposing changes. To gain credibility, first you must demonstrate that you already know the specific arguments that led to your proposal being rejected in the past, and you have some compelling new arguments. In any case, it's a lot harder to change a Wikipedia policy than to find a wiki with policies you like better. See for example WikInfo. --Teratornis 17:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Teratornis. Thank you very much for your response. I really appreciate it. But this is also true, If you would care for a few moments: Long before I ”checked in” on Wikipedia I was studying its content, policy, articles and talkpages for about a year. I had (then) only a cell phone with Windows Mobile, not really suited for editorial work, but I could collect basic information, make citations, collect quotes and blocks from many talk pages, and it was indeed the most fascinating and interesting I yet ever had experienced. But I also, soon, discovered the weak points in Wikipedia, especially its so called ”core policy”.

Honestly Teratornis: I am not a person who flags with merits. Wikipedia is said to be respectful to your OPINION. Not your merits, your ”personal level of intelligence” or ”the number of days or articles you have contributed to”, if your skin is black or white or other, if you are a Buddhist or a Christian or other. All those things are irrelevant and have nothing to do with writing an encyclopedia, or submitting with carefully weighted opinions on carefully selected talk pages. I thought ”Wikipedia” also MEANT it. But perhaps both you and I agree (now) that THAT ”Wikipedia” really does NOT exist.

If you have (further) suggestions to my improvement on familiarity with Wikipedia history, policy and general content, you are of course welcome with proposals. I will watch this topic.

Thank you again Teratornis, and take care. With kind greetings, former BMJ.--85.89.80.140 11:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

exam preperatrions

how should i search pin point search for preperations of exams such as UPSC etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.1.106.160 (talk) 14:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the articles about the exams, like Union Public Service Commission. If that doesn't help, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's reference desk. They will be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). Good luck, and I hope this helps. :) --Moonriddengirl 16:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Advertising Deal

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Greetings from Ukraine! We are Novoskivich Steel, a minor steel manufacting company based in Rivne Oblast , in Ukraine. We wish to advertise on Wikipedia and give Wikipedia profit. Please talk here on help desk so we can negociate price. How about 200 Ukraine Hryvnia yes?. Novoskivich Steel 16:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia at this time do not accept advertising. KTC 16:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Can not agree! 200 Ukraine Hryvnia is an execellent offer! I highly recommend you accept! Why you no accept? It benefit Wikipedia alot for one advetisment! Novoskivich Steel 16:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC) (лихослів'я ви самовпевнений дурень) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Novoskivich Steel (talk • contribs) 16:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC) This is an online enclopedia not a soapbox for advertising Please note Wikipedia does not endorse any businesses and it does not set up affiliate programs this is from this. AngelOfSadness talk 16:53, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Wikipedia does not accept advertising in the usual sense. However, you can offer a bounty to motivate other editors to create an article suitable for Wikipedia on any suitable topic. See: Wikipedia:Bounty board and Wikipedia:Reward board. Also see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. --Teratornis 16:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Why not? Change rules! Wikipedia can be rich with advertising and my company can be rich aswell! Good deal for both, I think you talk to leader (Jimbo) for inspiration and advice because deal is very good! Why you no agree? Yes? Is good deal. Novoskivich Steel 16:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Unless you are an exceptionally fast reader, the three minutes which elapsed from my reply to yours was not enough time for you to have read and understood the links I gave which answer your question. On Wikipedia we do not have time to individually explain every detail to our 47,986,774 users. Instead we rely on writing down the explanations and merely linking to them. This is the only way Wikipedia can operate efficiently enough to work on its operating budget, which is shockingly low for a project of Wikipedia's size and visibility. If you want to be a part of Wikipedia, you must learn to read and follow instructions. Please read the links I gave you. --Teratornis 17:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Your image appears to have been added here for advertising purposes so I replaced it with a link. Years ago it was considered to allow advertisements at some time [3] but not anymore. Wikipedia is operated by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. PrimeHunter 17:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)# :: Fucking USA! Why no advertisment! I give up ignorant fools! Go bomb another arabia country! Novoskivich Steel 17:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC) There is a Russian Wikipedia, if you prefer to bomb Chechnya instead. --Teratornis 17:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC) And also a Ukrainian Wikipedia for those who presumably are not bombing anyone. --Teratornis 17:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC) I've blocked this user for having an inappropriate username; editors are not allowed to use the names of companies as their username, especially if they are promoting the company. -FisherQueen (Talk) 17:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC) American fools Stop making edit conflict with me american fool. Novoskivich Steel 17:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)) I like this questioner: passion meets the stultifying Wikipedia cabal. Perhaps I can get "American Fool" printed on a t-shirt to wear. --Teratornis 17:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC) Hello. Help:Starting a new page should be what you're looking for. WODUP 17:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC) But be sure to see Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? Based on the discussion above, I have a feeling that will be the next question. --Teratornis 17:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like a repeat of the earlier trolling. -- Kesh 19:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

om namah shivay!

I'm logged in. I have an article I want to add. I've done it before and can't remember where to go to simply get started. Without reading through all of the directions, babble, etc. Cant you tell me exactly where to click to get started?? I can't find it! Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uncensoredinfo (talk • contribs) 17:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, your question seems to have been interrupted by someone else. Your article is now here, I think. Does that answer your question? AndyJones 17:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are asking how to start a article type on the search box the name of the article. Then if it does not exist it will show a search page. On the top there will be a redlink to the article name you searched go there and write the article and save it. Make sure it meets WP:N, WP:RS, and all the other "babble." --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 19:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Is there an inline tag for requesting clarification of a term?

Is there something analogous to that can be used, inline, to request clarification of a term, at least in the specific context? In IPv6, there's a new edit including "Linux gains alpha quality IPv6 support. As a software developer, I'm familiar with the use of "alpha" as meaning "in an early version", but I believe that a specific definition of the usage here is neeed. Unfortunately, it's an anonymous user, so I can't put a note on the user's talk page.

Obviously, I could put something on the IPV6 talk page, but, like , this would be far easier to see inline. Howard C. Berkowitz 19:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You'd want to use {{clarifyme}}. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 19:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Howard C. Berkowitz 19:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I edited it so that it now links to our article on software release cycles, which explains what alpha quality means. The need for clarification is one good reason to use an internal link. --Pekaje 21:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

some images in established articles no longer appearing

Some images are no longer appearing for me (in both PC IE6 and Firefox) on established articles. For example, in the article on Breast cancer, the thumbnail of the image Breast cancer.JPG is no longer showing, even though the full-sized image is still there. In the article on San Francisco, the thumbnail versions of images San_Francisco_Landsat7_(Lg).jpg and Lombardst.jpeg are no longer showing. I've tried clearing cache, but this does not fix the problem. What could be the cause of this? -- Sfmammamia 19:19, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Well I purged the page, so perhaps that fixed it however, Wikimedia is currently experiencing problems with images in the commons, and are working on it, so that is your principal problem. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 19:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Why can't I see correctly some images in the article on Orchidaceae. Neither Firefox nor Konqueror. Aelwyn 21:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Ditto Albert Einstein & Lever - Is Wikipedia Broken ?

Levers can be used to exert a large force over a small distance at one end by exerting only a small force over a greater distance at the other.

doesn't work

Levers can be used to exert a large force over a small distance at one end by exerting only a small force over a greater distance at the other.

does work !

Third class lever

doesn't work SVG mime-type issue in Internet Explorer?

doesn't help ... 195.137.93.171 22:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

'signature' editor button broken

Another thing broken - the 'signature' editor button that should give four tildes !
(used to give -- and 4 tildes ...) 195.137.93.171 22:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Restoring the deleted List of Entertainer's Nicknames Page

The page List of Entertainer's Nicknames has been deleted. Can you please find out who, why and when, and ultimately, restore the page?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Comprendo (talk • contribs)

Hm..I can't seem to find any article by that name. What was the exact name of the article you're referring to? GlassCobra 19:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) See deletion review What was the exact title of the article? I searched a couple, but don't see anything in the deletion logs. Also, please remember to sign your comments with four tildes like so: ~~~~ Into The Fray ^T/C 19:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

List_of_entertainers_by_nickname - You can try WP:DRV but I can tell you the result will go against what you wish to happen as this article was deleted earlier today after a AFD where it was a pretty convincing delete. KTC 20:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

My Entry Keeps Getting Deleted

Hello

My name is Don Reid and every time i put an entry about myself, some other Don Reid deletes it. Why is this allowed?

how do i prevent this happening? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donreid (talk • contribs) 20:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You're editing an existing page about another Don Reid, an American Basketball player. Since he meets our notability guidelines and there aren't (currently) any more notable Don Reids with articles, he gets the page. Before you continue to edit, or attempt to write an article about yourself, please note that writing articles about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you believe that you meet our guidelines for who is considered notable, you should request an article be created about yourself here, to ensure that it is written neutrally and that you are indeed notable. I hope this helps. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:54, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

If, by some dint of effort, you or another Don Reid became notable, you still wouldn't put that on his article. Instead, you would make a new article such as Don Reid (author) or Don Reid (kazoo player), as suggested at WP:DAB. Confusing Manifestation 22:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

(after ec)Hi, Don. This is the second time you have asked this question in the last 48 hours, so I assume you did not understand the first time. Here goes:

You have a user page at User:Donreid. You can edit that as you wish, mostly. It's for you to tell others about yourself as a wikipedia editor. We also have encyclopedia pages (not user pages) about three additional people named "Don Reid". The pages are Don Reid, Donald Bartlett Reid, and Don Reid (music). I think you believe that we need a fourth encyclopedia page, one about the Australian e-commerce entrepreneur named "Don Reid" who happens to also be the Wikipedia editor User:Donreid. Creation of this page comes in two parts:

• should there be such an article?
• If so, how do we distinguish the article from the other three "Don Reid" articles?

I will answer the second question first, since this is the one that is bothering you most. We call this "disambiguation." See WP:DAB, but the summary is this: When there are multiple articles with the same "natural" title, the first article to be created generally uses the "natural" name. Second and succeeding articles use a disambiguated name. Thus, your new article can be named e.g. Don Reid (e-commerce). Users looking for "Don Reid" will find the original article, and you can add a pointer to the top of the original article to point to the new "Don Reid (e-commerce) article. Once we have more than about two "extra" pointers of this type (as will be the case here), we create move Don Reid to Don Reid (basketball player) and then convert Don Reid to a "disambiguation page" that briefly lists all four of our "DON reid" articles. See William Kirby as one of thousands ofsuch pages.

Now for the first issue: do we actually want your article in Wikipedia at all? Well, yes, if you meet our criteria for notability. you must read and understand WP:BIO to decide. Just because you think you are notable does not mean that you can convince all the other editors. The single most important thing you must do is to assert notability in the article and cite reliable sources in the reference section of your article.IF you do not do ths, then you article will be deleted. Since you hap-en to be Don Reid, you must also be very carful not to violate WP:COI. The best way to aviod this is to create you article in a user subspace such as User:Donreid/Don Reid (ecommerce) and then ask for a review of your proposed article.

Hope this helps -Arch dude 22:38, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Watchlist question...

Anyone know of a fancy way to set up multiple watchlists? I've seen some folks making category watchlists separate from their normal watchlist and am curious if there's a way to do it for specific articles. I'd like to keep a static list of articles I keep an eye on and one for my more "current" eyeballing. Into The Fray ^T/C 21:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

One option would be for you to watch those "current" articles via its RSS feeds. KTC 21:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Excellent. Thank you! Into The Fray ^T/C 21:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Patrol log

What is it? I know I'm an admin and everything, but what it is it?? Maxim_(talk) 21:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

You can mark edits as patrolled, so that other sysops see that this edit is ok and not vandalism. Larger projects disabled this in the software, as en.wp did. You can just ignore it. --Thogo (Talk) 22:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Image visualisation problem

Why can't I see correctly some images in the article on Orchidaceae. Neither Firefox nor Konqueror. Aelwyn 21:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Look at the site notice (the small text line just below the tabs). Try to increase the width of the image by one pixel. It helps in ~80% of the cases. --Thogo (Talk) 22:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Plus, we are having a bit of a problem with displaying images from Wikimedia Commons at the moment. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 22:08, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, this is funny! I enlarged them 1px and now they work! But why? Anyway, thank you very much Aelwyn 22:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

First one on Orchidaceae linked to URL "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/Haeckel_Orchidae.jpg/200px-" but it's in a Taxobox so 200px is not explicit ! Still needs fixing ! 195.137.93.171 00:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Fixed "image_width = 199px" 195.137.93.171 00:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Expanded watchlist

For some days now the expanded watchlist doesn't work any more (it's not expanded though I enabled it in the preferences). Does anyone know why? Is it due to the server problems or was there a change in the software? (in other wikis it works well) --Thogo (Talk) 22:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

U.S. Presidential Election infoboxes (red vs. blue)

(I am posting this here, rather than on individual talk pages, because it concerns a large number of articles.) In the infoboxes for each U.S. Presidential Election, the portraits of the candidates are boxed in color, and the Electoral College maps are similarly colored, representing their political parties at a glance. A very good idea, I believe, except there is inconsistency. For United States presidential election, 1976 and all years prior, Republicans are marked in blue and Democrats in red. Starting with United States presidential election, 1980, Republicans are red and Democrats are blue. Is this deliberate? Why the change? Should it not stay the same over every article? And if so, which should be changed? (Fewer articles would need changing by making Democrats red and Republicans blue. But then, the current venacular of U.S. political campaigns is the opposite.) — Michael J 22:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

This has been discussed at Wikipedia talk:Style for U.S. presidential election, yyyy. You can comment there. PrimeHunter 00:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I didn't know that page existed. I will go there. Thank you kindly. — Michael J 03:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Images

I seem to have fixed the image problem. The disclaimer was talking about the problem, and when I hid the disclaimer, the images were working again. Kitty53 22:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you personally fixed it. :P It's good that it's been fixed, though. GlassCobra 22:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps, the very moment you hid the disclaimer, the people over at wikimedia fixed it. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 23:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Images?

I didn't fix all of the image problem, however. On some of the images, you have to click on them in order to see them. Kitty53 00:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Kitty - which page ?
Follow instructions at the top:
click to see the image page
add "?action=purge" to the end of the address and load
Click the 'OK' - purge button
You may have to refresh the page in your browser to see the change. 195.137.93.171 00:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

September 17

The Fuh

Hey why did you delete my page about the Fuh calling it nonsense? I know a lot of people who believe in that.

Image Problem

Can't someone just purge the whole cache on the image server ? I don't believe every user has to go in and purge every image individually ! 195.137.93.171 00:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't edit Einstein - thanks for fixing it !

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Newimages&until=20070917001337
also gives broken image links ... but purging the image seems to help ! Odd!195.137.93.171 01:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Just be patient. It's being worked on and purging the entire cache would probably bring the servers to a crawl. Just save your desired edits until things get caught up. -- Kesh 01:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

OK - it seems really odd that Special:Newimages has cache problems.
I wonder if it would help to put a purge button on the Images page template ? Maybe only display it if you can detect a problem occurred ? I wonder if it would be possible to query for problem images.

195.137.93.171 01:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Parser Functions

Lets say you have {{xxx}}. Now I want it to be if you type {{xxx}} you get yyyyy. If you type {{xxx|n}} you get zzzzz.

I tried {{#if: {{{n|}}} | zzzzz | yyyyy}} but that didn't work. When I typed {{xxx|n}}, I still get yyyyy instead of zzzzz.

If that didn't make sense I will try to explain some more. Can you tell what I'm screwing up? ---CWY2190^TC 00:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, here goes. Type this into your template:

{{ #switch: {{{1}}}
|n= zzzz
|#default = yyyy
}}

That should work, but just tell me if it doesn't :) Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 01:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

It works. Thank you. ---CWY2190^TC 01:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

You're very welcome :) Arky ^¡Hablar! 01:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

To clarify why the first one didn't work, the {{#if: {{{n|}}}... is asking "If a parameter called n exists, then...", but {{xxx|n}} is saying "Please use Template:xxx and assign a parameter called "1" the value "n". Using the original posters original syntax intent, he wanted {{#if: {{{1|}}}... (in which case anything after the pipe would generate the zzzz output) — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 17:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Linking username to email address, in case username is forgotten

Hi,

I believe I have previously registered as a Wiki user, however, as it was some time back, I have forgotten my username. I tried to find my username details, however, the login process sends an email (with new password) to the specified 'username' email address. 203.24.6.121 01:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)Is it not possible to link the login process with the email address to make the username discoverable, so that, if someone has forgotten their username, they won't go about trying usernames, and resetting other people's passwords?

My other alternative would be to create a new user, however, this was just a thought for those with existing user accounts (that know about them). :D

Thanks for your help!

Cheers, G

I'm afraid I don't quite understand. Are you not able to access your email to get your username details? GlassCobra 01:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The user has forgotten the user name. Mail new password works by first selecting the user name so it cannot be used here. The old password continues to work until the new is entered, so users will not get problems if somebody else requests a new password for them by mail. Your email address cannot be used to find your user name. If you remember pages you have edited while logged in at the account then you may be able to find your user name by clicking the history tab at those pages. If you know a possible start of the user name then you can try findining it at Special:Listusers. If you don't find it then create a new account. PrimeHunter 01:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

403 Forbidden error on coordinates

Whenever I click on coordinates (like 34°03′N 118°15′W) in an article I get a 403 error from tools.wikimedia.de. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a problem with the server? And if the latter, do they know about it? --teb728 02:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not seeing anything wrong with it. --Agüeybaná 03:11, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I get that too. Probably something funky with the toolserver, best just wait until they fix it. --Oskar 03:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

If they don’t know it’s broken, they may never fix it. Clicking on the coordinate takes me to http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/geo/geohack.php?pagename=Wikipedia:Help_desk&params=34_03_N_118_15_W_, displaying the message “You don't have permission to access /~magnus/geo/geohack.php on this server.” --teb728 03:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm getting it as well. I've filed a report on Bugzilla, so they are now aware of the issue. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Filed as Bug ID 11369 Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

It looks like they fixed it. Thanks, teb728 06:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Changing font...

What line would you add to Special:Mypage/monobook.css (or whatever page you go to) to change the font of articles? --Oskar 03:05, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

You do want to change the fonts just for you, right? --Agüeybaná 03:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, hence the Special:Mypage part (besides I'm not an admin so I can't edit the MediaWiki namespace) --Oskar 03:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know, the Special:Mypage links send the clicker to their mypage. Just so you know. i ^said 03:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, it's just that I have a long user-name so I usually just type that. I didn't realise it would be misunderstood, sorry about that :P User:Oskar Sigvardsson/monobook.css then. --Oskar 03:15, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing the MediaWiki namespace is not the only way to change the font of articles, BTW. --Agüeybaná 03:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

So how do I do it? I don't really like Arial (or whatever font we use) and I'd like to change it, globally. --Oskar 03:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

clear search history

how do i clear my search history in wikipedia?

Peaches84 03:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I assume you mean the autocompletes in the search box. Open up the list and put your mouse on the first entry. Then hold down delete for Internet Explorer, or shift-delete for Mozilla Firefox. I believe Opera uses delete. The entries will then whizz away. This applies to any text box that has autocompleted values, such as the Google search box. x42bn6 Talk Mess 04:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Law info-box?

Hello there. Is there any kind of info-box for articles about laws or legislation? I only seem to be able to find them for Law Schools and the like. Thanks --TreeKittens 05:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

There are info-boxes. Please see Contract. The infobox of this article even shows the way to several other law related infoboxes.--Thw1309 11:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Thw1309. I'm still a bit confused however. I'm looking for an info-box suitable for particular laws, rather than general categories and classes of law such as Contract Law. In particular I'm looking for a Federal or Public Law infobox suitable for the PETS Act article and others. Thanks --TreeKittens 17:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

how to hide your username in the page history

how do I create new pages without showing my user name. I don't want people to know I am writing about them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woomou (talk • contribs) 06:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

In short, you can't. All your contributions will be credited to User:Woomou unless you log out and then those edits will be credited to your IP address. Dismas|^(talk) 06:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)you can't, edit under an IP address if people recognise your username.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 06:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

• The whole history system is in place to keep people accountable. If you don't want to take credit for something you wrote, it's probably because said material is not acceptable. - 131.211.210.17 09:40, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

OK. But what if I do not want to show my Username, and instead want to display my nickname in the history pages, as it comes in the comments. Bhuto (Talk | Contribs) 10:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Legal case results citation

I'm came across the article for Colleen Shannon which says that she was involved in a legal battle over her high school yearbook photo when it got published in Playboy. I've been able to find a lot of links to articles about the case written before the decision of the court was made but not one link explaining how the case was settled. Does anyone know how I might find such info? Dismas|^(talk) 06:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I would recommend you take your question to the reference desk, where your question can be answered. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Will do. I was on the fence as to whether I should bring my question here or the Ref Desk. I thought since it had to do with an article, I'd bring it here. I guess I was wrong. Dismas|^(talk) 08:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The Help Desk is more for understanding the nitty-gritty of working on Wikipedia. Factual information, whether related to an article or not, is what you head to the Reference Desk for. Good luck finding that info! Confusing Manifestation 12:51, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Links inside brackets

How do I create a link inside a bracket?

• Looks silly: In a now famous passage in the Reflections, Burke lamented: "I had thought ten thousand swords must have leaped from the scabbards to avenge even a look that threatened her [Marie Antoinette] with insult. – But the age of chivalry is gone."

• Doesn't have link: In a now famous passage in the Reflections, Burke lamented: "I had thought ten thousand swords must have leaped from the scabbards to avenge even a look that threatened her [[[Marie Antoinette]]] with insult. – But the age of chivalry is gone."

Thanks. Awadewit | talk 07:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

See how I changed your markup. That's how I'd do it. A little unwieldy, but it gets the job done. Into The Fray ^T/C 07:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Or ... for a more illustrative response: <n0wiki>[</n0wiki>[[Marie Antoinette]]<n0wiki>]</n0wiki> where 0 = o.  :) Into The Fray ^T/C 07:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Awadewit | talk 08:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

hacking windows XP by internet

can you give me the total information about

netbus virus and the starbus virus which affects windows XP202.54.42.17 08:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

You're looking for the Computing Reference Desk. Not this page. Dismas|^(talk) 08:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem seeing particular images on Wikipedia

Hi there, I have been having a problem for a while in which I cannot see some images on Wikipedia. At times I can click on the text that says it is a picture and the picture is fine but it doesn't show up in reduced and sometimes in full size. Here is an example Image on Wikimedia

Thanks for any help Lummie 09:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a ongoing known problem stemming from some issue on Commons, the developers are aware of it, and is looking into it. KTC 09:40, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh ok, wasn't sure if it was my computer or settings. Cheers Lummie 10:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

formations simliar to adams bridge all over the world

how many formations similiar to adams bridge exst in this world. I mean so linear and so long almost mimicing a man made bridge≈12:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)12:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)~~partharjun_2000

Adam's Bridge doesn't address this. Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter 13:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Christanity and homosexuality

In Corinthians 6:9 the bible names things that will keep you from getting to heave,such as the effeminate,just exactly what is effeminate refering to and does the bible say that a homosexual can not enter the kindom of God? send answer to <email address removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.68.248.214 (talk) 12:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Timothy. This is the wrong page to ask those kind of questions. You could try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. Pedro |  Chat  12:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

What is Wikipedia

what is wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.113.14 (talk) 12:20, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

• HI and welcome. See Wikipedia:Overview FAQ for more information! Hope that helps!Pedro |  Chat  12:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

homosexuality in islam

Ěwho published this article 196.10.121.2 12:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

If you mean Homosexuality and Islam, then there isn't a "publisher" in the traditional sense. If you scroll to the top of the article and click on the "History" tab, it will show you who has contributed to the article (and even see what their contributions were), and if you're planning to cite it in a paper of some sort, there's a "Cite this article" link on the left-hand side of the page. However, see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for some caveats and other stuff. Confusing Manifestation 12:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Warning template?

I'm looking for a template that thanks the user for editing Wikipedia and thanks him for reverting his own edits. I've seen such a message on some users' talk pages, but I can't find a template that does exactly that. There are templates that thank them and warn them but the ones I find imply that someone else reverted their edits. When a user experiments, then goes back and reverts his own changes the wording should be different. Sbowers3 12:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I suspect you're looking for {{subst:uw-selfrevert}}. If you haven't look over it before, you might also want to take a look at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. They're all nicely collected there. :) --Moonriddengirl 12:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That is exactly where I looked but I didn't look low enough. Sbowers3 13:59, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Toolbar tabs

The toolbar buttons at the top of my edit page have suddenly stopped working. Any idea how to fix this? MChew —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

There were some fixes to help image display in Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 (and 5.5) added recently, but specifically for those two browsers, they seem to have caused the toolbar buttons not to work. It's a known problem; in the meantime, you can work around the problem by using a different browser (either by upgrading to Internet Explorer 7, or by using a different browser altogether). --ais523 14:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I was using IE-6. The buttons work fine under Firefox. --MChew 15:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Macro environmental factors

Macro environmental factors affect organization’s marketing efforts. Discuss each of the macro environmental factors in detail with relevant real life examples that should include local and multinational companies operating in Malaysia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.204.189 (talk) 13:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Is this a test you're giving us? This page is for help with using Wikipedia, not answering essay questions. The reference desk is for factual questions, but you should do your own homework. Leebo ^T/C 16:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

English wikipedia and MS Windows Vista Home Premium - pages garbled upon refresh or revisit

I recently bought a machine with this newer OS. Wikipedia pages (English and French, all I tested) now show consistent display problems with both IE7 and Firefox browsers. The symptom is:

The first time a page is displayed it works fine. Upon subsequent display (even after restarting the browser) the page is garbled, as if I had opened a binary in a text editor. Flushing caches and temporary files had no effect, and I couldn't find any record of problems like this in a search.

Any ideas?

205.250.165.94 14:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC) DonRobinson

I cannot find specific information on How To Post An Article

Wikipedia Community

I have spent many hours this morning trying to figure out how to post an article. I have searched the site and only been able to discover "editing", not posting. Clearly I am missing something, and no one has been able to point me in the right direction.

Can someone inform? Thanks

Robert Allen 14:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

If you haven't already, read the Introduction and Tutorial. Then Wikipedia:Your first article is a good guide to what you should, and shouldn't, place in the article; and Help:Creating a new page gives information on how to create one. (To create an article, you simply edit a nonexistent article; the editing causes it to exist.) --ais523 14:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Start a new page is also relevant. Can you tell us where you expected to find the information? Obviously you spent those hours somewhere. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:06, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

MizaBot

I have

{{User:MiszaBot/config
|algo = old(1d)
|archive = User_talk:My_user_name/%(monthnameshort)s/%(year)d
}}

On my talk page, but MizaBot hasn't touched my talk page. Why is that? 70.233.156.5 15:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly how the bot works, but do you have an account? You're not logged in now. It looksl like you'd probably have to change the "My_user_name" part to your username, whatever it is. Leebo ^T/C 16:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I have see here 70.233.156.5 16:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

you may want to ask the creator of the bot, here: User talk:Misza13 — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 17:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Numbered list

Info

I need to know how to make a consecutive numbered list after bullet points......... example below.....

1. akpeokkoerk;aeo
2. afdadlakjdfl;jdsjlsajlfjaljlfjlasj

• akjdfkjsajdfjsdllkjd
• adkfj;sjaldjaslj

1. aksdfsd;flldska

• akldkfkas;f;lk;sd

1. aldsaddakskdfls

To generate a bullet point inside a numbered list entry, use #*, not :*; for instance,

1. akpeokkoerk;aeo
2. afdadlakjdfl;jdsjlsajlfjaljlfjlasj
   • akjdfkjsajdfjsdllkjd
   • adkfj;sjaldjaslj
3. aksdfsd;flldska
   • akldkfkas;f;lk;sd
4. aldsaddakskdfls

Hope that helps! --ais523 15:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

what happens when you have an image between numbers 3 and 4 this solution doesnt work........help--Gawatkin 19:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

How about this:

1. akpeokkoerk;aeo
2. afdadlakjdfl;jdsjlsajlfjaljlfjlasj
   • akjdfkjsajdfjsdllkjd
   • adkfj;sjaldjaslj
3. aksdfsd;flldska
   • akldkfkas;f;lk;sd

   File:Leebo.PNG

4. aldsaddakskdfls

Does that work for you? Leebo ^T/C 20:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry I didnt explain myself very well, it looks very good here

1. akpeokkoerk;aeo
2. afdadlakjdfl;jdsjlsajlfjaljlfjlasj
   • akjdfkjsajdfjsdllkjd
     1. akjdfkjsajdfjsdllkjd
     2. akjdfkjsajdfjsdllkjd
   • adkfj;sjaldjaslj
3. aksdfsd;flldska
   • akldkfkas;f;lk;sd

   File:Leebo.PNG

4. aldsaddakskdfls

"biosolids" - sewage sludge

I would like to add a comment to the "biosolids" page . . . see following . . .

September 17, 2007 "Biosolids" is generic

About 15 years ago in an effort to deceive the public as to the true content of treated municipal sewage sludge (the landspreading of which is "regulated" at 40 CFR Part 503), the waste industry and EPA changed the name to "biosolids". However, so many camels have gotten their noses under the "biosolids" tent, that the word is no longer specific to human sewerage, and is now used for a number of other waste products. (Just check Google to confirm):

-textile biosolids - winery biosolids - unprocessed dairy biosolids - chemical biosolids - animal biosolids - cow biosolids - poultry biosolids - chicken biosolids - swine biosolids - pig biosolids - paper mill biosolids - brewery biosolids - abattoir biosolids - horse biosolids - meat processing biosolids - sewage biosolids.

Cornell (University) Waste Management Institute correctly refers to this toxic/pathogenic waste as "sewage biosolids".   The federal Clean Water Act defines sewage sludge as a "pollutant".

Personally, I think an EPA Administrator got it right, when he said on October 21, 2001: "My personal view is, I don't think we should be using euphemisms," said Alan Hais, the EPA's program manager for sludge regulations. (Mr. Hais is now an employee of Water Environment Federation, the lobbying and PR arm of the sludge industry.)

Hshield16 16:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)Helane Shields, PO Box 1133, Alton, NH 03809 sludge researcher since 1996 hshields@worldpath.net

but I can't figure out what to click on to send the comment to Wikipedia . . .

If you want to edit the Biosolids article, just click the "edit this page" tab at the top. See Help:Contents/Editing_Wikipedia for more information. GlassCobra 16:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

deletion, having never tried to do it before

a recent update to the section "mothers" has taken me personally to distress. i strongly wish to have it removed. This section i talk about is about my mother which is untrue and i wish for it to be dealt with immediatly. how do i go about reporting this and getting it removed?

yours nick bradie.

86.134.169.199 16:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I have reverted that vandalism. See Help:Reverting for how to revert. PrimeHunter 16:40, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

After reverting did you add a warning to the vandal's talk page and/or notify WP:AIV? (I am asking not so much as a comment to you but to all readers of this page.) Sbowers3 17:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't do any good to notify WP:AIV if it's the first warning on the vandal's Talk page, or the first warning in several weeks. Admins will remove the AIV entry because the vandal has not had a sufficient number of warnings. Warning tags need to escalate, starting with, for example, {{uw-v1}} and escalating through {{uw-v4}}. Corvus cornix 17:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Left a level 2 warning on the user's talk page, which was forgotten. I wouldn't disagree with a level 3 one, either, because it is quite nasty. x42bn6 Talk Mess 17:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I read higher on the page, saw a final warning on 11 September so notified AIV. Sbowers3 17:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I only had time to revert before going out. Good to see others followed up. The IP has been blocked for 24 hours. PrimeHunter 19:18, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

color temperature

what is the match box stic color temperature —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.154.189 (talk) 17:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter 19:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Kerala Locator map at Protected areas of Kerala

Resolved

A small India map shows on the map at Kerala. Can someone please make it also show on the National Parks map at Protected areas of Kerala? I tried several ways but couldn't do it. Thank You.-Marcus 19:20, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

KTC 23:20, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Page Not Working

The "Migraine" page isn't working. It just says "Wikipedia is sustained by people like you. Please donate today." Nothing else is listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.129.203.101 (talk) 19:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

If you mean Migraine, it seems to be working for me, and doesn't appear to have been vandalized today. Try refreshing the page or clearing your cache. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:40, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Custom TOC

Im formatting a book on wikisource, and i want to create a custom table of contents--basically, a TOC-like box (collapsible, same BGcolor) that's totally blank, that i can fill with my own custom pagelinks. could somebody point me to where i might find the appropriate code, or at least something thats easily modifiable? --PopeFauveXXIII 08:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you could use Template:Show_hide_box as a base, and customize/modify that? ^Ariel♥Gold 09:05, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

You might find some choices over here. Happy editing! GlassCobra 14:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I found those already... i think theyre a little too different from the standard TOC to be of use to me. they'll come in handy for the background color, but im having more trouble figuring out how to collapse the box than anything else. I cant believe a blank TOC template doesnt exist, honestly! Im moving this question to the bottom in hopes of getting a few more suggestions, 'cause i guess i need to build one. --PopeFauveXXIII 20:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Banana storage

I have had many years researching banana storage and have found very little relevant inforamation under this heading.I found the heading is partialy protected. Have searched FAQCan you please a first time user how to add my information. Kevin Joseph Scott 101Kevin Joseph Scott 101 20:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The page has indeed been semi-protected, which disables editing from anonymous users and registered accounts less than four days old. It looks like your account was only created today, so hang around for four days and then you can edit it. Or, if you like, you can swing over to my talk page and tell me the information that you'd like to add, and I can do it for you. GlassCobra 20:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Renaming pages

I edited the article on Clan Donald changing the names of the branches. Each branch was erroniously titled "Clan MacDonald of Antrim" etc. They should be titled "MacDonald of Antrim" etc. But the branch names were linked to articles about those branches and I cannot figure out how to rename the Wikipedia pages for those Clan Donald branches so they will stll be linked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmcdonald49 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. :) Renaming pages is explained at Help:Moving a page. This will create a redirect at the old title so that users can still find it. However, note that it's usually good policy to discuss a rename at the talk page of the article if you believe it may be controversial. :) (Oh, and let me add that you must be registered for more than four days to do this. Alternatively, you may request assistance at Wikipedia:Requested moves.) --Moonriddengirl 21:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Posting new article

Hello, I logged in and posted a new article but it has not appeared. I haven't received an email saying it was approved either. The FAQ wasn't helpful in telling me what to do, as far as I can tell. Any help would be appreciated.

Erin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emoore5186 (talk • contribs)

Hi. I see that you posted in the Introduction on September 7th something about "Body1, Inc" and attempted to see if that had been the title of your article, but I don't see any evidence of such in a deletion log. Nor do I see anything about Body1.net or simply Body1. It's possible that your article was speedily deleted for failing to meet one of Wikipedia's essential guidelines for article inclusion. Usually, an editor will be notified on his or her talk page if this is the case, but not always. If you remember the title, you can find the steps for determining what happened at "Why was my page deleted?" If there isn't any record of it, I would wonder if something went wrong in the creation process. Particularly when creating complex articles, I like to keep a version outside of Wikipedia just in case of computer error (or, as is all too often the case with me, "computer user error"). Good luck tracking it down, and if you can't figure out, we may be able to help more with more detail. :)--Moonriddengirl 22:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I checked if Emoore5186 had any deleted contributions and there were none. Erin, as Moonriddengirl described, you added a section to a sandbox, which is regularly flushed out and is only for experimentation edits. If you want the article to be added to the encyclopedia, it must be created at Body1. Leebo ^T/C 22:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

It's apparently "Body 1" with a space. Body 1 was deleted as spam in 2005 at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Body 1. I haven't seen the article but the AfD mentions Body1.com which is one of many Body 1 websites. A new article may also be deleted as recreation of deleted material (depending on how closely it resembles the deleted article which I haven't seen), or as spam or non-notable content. Your edit appears to break several of our policies and guidelines. If you are affiliated with Body 1 then see Wikipedia:Business FAQ and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. PrimeHunter 23:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

signing in

I created an acct.successfully,confirmed my email etc..however AIM will not allow me to sign in,it consistantly tells me that my username or password is incorrect-I have checked it 5 tim es and it still wont sign in!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myob25 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

This isn't AOL Instant Messenger, it's Wikipedia, and since SineBot knew what name to sign your post, it means you are definitely signed in here. If you are actually having troubles signing into AIM, that would be a question for the Computing Reference Desk, not the Wikipedia Help Desk. Confusing Manifestation 22:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

You might want to consider making a account on wikipedia. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 23:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the SineBot signature, he/she does have an account (User:Myob25), and is indeed signed in. Confusing Manifestation 01:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

September 18

Adding a person to wikipedia

I am a very new at this.... my question.. may i add a person to wilkipedia? if so it's my father? he was a decorated Army officer....and if so... how do i start(navigate)?

thank you,

rapidfire67 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rapidfire67 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia's notability guidelines to make sure that your father is notable enough for inclusion. If you think he is, take a look at Help:Starting a new page. GlassCobra 01:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, because you are personally associated with him, take a quick look at the conflict of interest guideline and make sure you write the article with a neutral point of view towards the subject, referenced to third-party sources (i.e. you probably know a lot of stuff about him that can't be verified by others, which isn't really acceptable for inclusion). Confusing Manifestation 01:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Edits always on watchlist (solved)

Every page I edit keeps being added to my Watchlist, even if did not check the following in preferences:

• Add pages I create to my watchlist
• Add pages I edit to my watchlist
• Add pages I move to my watchlist

What did I forget? I'm on RC Patrol so you can guess this is really annoying. -- Kl4m ^{Talk Contrib} 00:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Change the watchRevertedPages option described at WP:TWINKLE. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 00:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Kl4m ^{Talk Contrib} 00:46, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Citing the same source to many statements

I've got a book in front of me and an unsourced article, and before I begin, I want to be sure the best way to handle this. In a paper, I'd put a source for the book at the end then tag each statement with (Dalby XX), but wikipedia usually has numbered footnotes. Do I need to copy and paste the same info over and over but change the page numbers? Should I do the first one full-out, then do {{citebook |last = Dalby | pages = XX}} for the subsequent references? Kuronue | Talk 01:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I think the info you are looking for is described at Wikipedia:Footnotes#Citing a footnote more than once. Leebo ^T/C 01:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! That's exactly what I wanted to know. I should have read closer. Kuronue | Talk 01:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Mangua Nicargua article

this "lanicoya" puts in whatever she wants and ignores contributors including my articles that are good sources, just because she doesn't want her country to be seen at what it is. She uses this site as if it where her own if you haven't noticed what she doesn't like doesn't get put into this article and that is not right! you shouldn't even allow her to be apart of wikipedia because people like that who think they know it all and live in a fairy tale about i'm from nicaragua and just because i think it's heave that is what i'll put into the article. No that is not what the wikipedia rules state. This site is nothing but hypocrits who say read the wiki rules but neither of you including her follow the rules so why should any of us if not even the so called "volunteers" do. read the articles they are good sources that information needs to be put in there.66.161.18.212 01:10, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Note: The user is referring to the Managua article. GlassCobra 01:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like you were adding biased information. LaNicoya was correct in reverting you; please see Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. Additionally, the sources you were using are insufficient; please read our reliable sources policy. Finally, personal attacks are not allowed here; it would be appreciated if you would be a little more civil. Thanks. GlassCobra 01:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Woah, slow down there. First off, calm down. Getting angry about things in an editing conflict like this only tends to make things worse. From what I can see, it looks like LaNicoya is trying to work with you. She is trying to help, but some of the information you're adding isn't suitable for Wikipedia or isn't written in a neutral manner. She's trying to work with you to incorporate the information you want to add in a manner that is acceptable to our guidelines. Please try to remember to assume good faith on the part of others, and if that doesn't work, take a step back for a while to give things a chance to calm down so they don't get out of hand. Ok? :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing Error

I have been doing minor edits on the page on Michel de Montaigne, and have deleted the "School/Tradition" line from the bio area. For some reason, the information is still showing up, unformatted, on the page. Can someone share advice here? Westkeith 01:21, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It looks like the way that infobox template is formatted, there is no way to completely remove that parameter. You must simply leave the parameter blank, but removing it completely is causing the parameter name to show up instead of blank space. Leebo ^T/C 01:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Philosopher says:

• Region, Name, Birth, and School/tradition are compulsory
• School/tradition should be selected from Category:Philosophical schools and traditions;

Keeping the parameter name without a value looks less bad:

school_tradition = |

PrimeHunter 02:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Trouble with the status indicator... last resort

Alright... I've asked a number of users about this. None could fix it. Now I go to the help desk:

I have a status indicator on my userpage. I've recently renovated it (as well as my userpage), so that there'll be a link when I click on the little traffic light thing (you know when you see it). The problem is that the traffic light isn't right next to the "this user is ___" part when it should (you'll obviously know when you see it). I need someone who fix that problem. If you could, thanks! MITB LS 03:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused. On my screen, the traffic light appears under the letters "Th" in "This" - do you want it moved to the other side, the right edge of the screen? Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Right; to the right of the "currently ___" part. MITB LS 03:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I can try to look at it later - I tried a fix just now and all it did was squish the traffic light. Unfortunately, I've got to head to class but I will try to take a look tomorrow if I don't get a chance today or someone's already fixed it. Sorry for delays. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Nestle addition

I submitted an adder last week just above the Gerber purchase entry w/ respect to Nestle's purchase of my former company, Novartis Nutrition for $2.5B. It was initially shown, but since has been removed. Why? I submitted a Business Week reference as backup, but alas, it didn't appear to be enough to satisfy your editors. Please advise as to why my factual addition was deleted.

Rgds.

<contact info removed to avoid spam> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.51.223.1 (talk) 04:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

• You're editing under an IP address, not an account, and your IP address has never edited before this. Can you point us to the article you're referring to, or give the name of the account you used to create it? —Dark•Shikari^[T] 05:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • It must be this edit to Nestlé. It was poorly formatted with URL's displayed inside the article text. I don't know whether this is why MER-C reverted it [4] with no argument. You can ask at User talk:MER-C. PrimeHunter 14:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

how to place image on wikimedia page

hello,

I want to know how to place image on wikimedia page?

As I can see only the link provided by me of that image .

thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newlyeditor (talk • contribs) 05:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Image tutorial. Confusing Manifestation 06:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT magic word, the PAGENAME template, and transcluded categories

Wikipedia:Categorization used to say this:

For instance, on George Washington, {{DEFAULTSORT:Washington, George}} would cause a subsequent [[Category:United States presidents]] to be equivalent to [[Category:United States presidents|Washington, George]], not [[Category:United States presidents|George Washington]].

I have tested this and concluded that this statement was misleading, and have removed the phrase "a subsequent", because {{DEFAULTSORT}} appears to affect all categories, not just subsequent ones. I have also included some more information and a suggestion on use of {{DEFAULTSORT}} and {{PAGENAME}} in categories. Can someone please confirm that I am correct, and that my edits make sense. Be bold. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

• I think it was supposed to say "ALL subsequent categories" as in everything that comes after the magic word. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • My point is that it doesn't just affect subsequent categories, it affects all categories, even ones that are before the magic word (and that don't have their own pipe trick). — PhilHibbs | talk 14:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
    • This edit to meta:Help:Category was not there when Help:Category was last updated from meta, so the two pages contradict eachother currently. Should Help:Category be updated from meta? PrimeHunter 15:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
      • OK I didn't know that the help pages on en. were synced with another source. From my experimentation, though, the meta help appears to be incorrect in this matter. — PhilHibbs | talk 11:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I changed local time setting and language seeting seems to have changed

I created my account this morning and went into Preferences to have a look at settings there. I used the 'load from browser' button to tell the system I'm 1 hour ahead of server time and suddenly everything is in Welsh. Please help me change it back to English!FredHerbert 09:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

On the top line of the window please press "fy newisiadau" (my preferences). There you press "Data defnyddiwr" (user profile). There is a box, which shows "cy cymraeg" there you search "en english" Then you only have to press "Cadw ffafraethau" (save). --Thw1309 09:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

humanities

please i would like to know if studying humanities as a broadcast discipline is that relevent.

thank you, princess —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.85.201.250 (talk) 10:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with Wikipedia. You may have more luck asking these kinds of questions at the reference desk. Leebo ^T/C 13:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

speeling yes spelling error

Egyptian museum

someone has written specialising incorrectly it has an 'a' in it

Cheers A

58.84.113.107 11:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Leebo ^T/C 13:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

GAMES!!!!!

do you have any games????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.250.34 (talk) 13:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

im sooooo bored n i wnt 2 play sum games! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.219.250.34 (talk) 13:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello, and I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a game site. ^Ariel♥Gold 13:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Department of Fun#Games and Category:Wikipedia games. PrimeHunter 13:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The argument is always made in MfDs for those games that their existence makes things less stuffy for regular Wikipedians, but I can see them attracting drive-by users who don't contribute to the encyclopedia more. Leebo ^T/C 13:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The Help desk is essentially a game where we solve puzzles and riddles of arbitrary difficulty. I suggest to anyone who is bored with editing on Wikipedia, try answering questions on the Help desk. If those are too easy, check out the Reference desks, the Village pump, and for a real challenge head over to mw:Project:Support desk. --Teratornis 16:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

joining and using wikipedia-

After I set up an account with wikipedia can I use the content on my own webpages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.107.240 (talk) 15:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

You don't even need to setup an account. All you need to do is note that content is released under the GFDL license and which Wikipedia page it came from. See Wikipedia:Contact_us/Top_questions#Can_I_copy_articles_from_Wikipedia.3F for more and Wikipedia:Copyrights#Reusers.27_rights_and_obligations for much more detail. Cheers!--Chaser - T 15:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Changing my monobook

Hi sorry to bother but I am having difficulty in setting my User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/monobook.js. I'd like the set the main page to "executive" altertative by default which is [[5]] so when I click main page it automatically goes to this page but it isn't working. How can I do this? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 15:40, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Answered on users talk page. henrik•talk 15:46, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Error/Fout

Everytime I try and log in to Wikipedia, I recieve a "RGS7387 Error Code SA ELEKTRONIKS" error messege. What is all this about? What does it mean? Thank You. Instrrueneraatzimmer 15:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Elkemaal Ek probeer en log binne-in wikipedia, Ek ontvang 'n "RGS7387 Error Code SA ELEKTRONIKS" fout messege. wat is al hierdie omtrent? watdit bedoel? dankie. Instrrueneraatzimmer 15:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

You posted that while logged in here at the English Wikipedia. Are you referring to another language version? What is the exact URL of the login page? PrimeHunter 15:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

http://af.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spesiaal:Userlogin&returnto=Tuisblad Is the Afrikaans page. Instrrueneraatzimmer 16:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what causes this. I don't have an account there and get normal looking Afrikaans error messages when I try to log in with a false password for a real (not mine) or false user name. Can you try another browser or Internet connection? PrimeHunter 16:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I use the Bloemfointein Telekomm connection at 54.0 megabutes per second. I cant use another browser. I have never seen this messege before, my computer language is english. Perhaps its something I downloaded? Instrrueneraatzimmer 16:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Seeing as this page is for help with the English Wikipedia, perhaps you may get more responses at the Afrikaans Wikipedia. Leebo ^T/C 17:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

No it will take forever Instrrueneraatzimmer 17:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It is unlikely for someone who is familiar with the Afrikaans Wikipedia to come to this help desk. That's what I'm saying. It can't hurt to ask in more than one place anyway. Leebo ^T/C 17:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a speaker of the language above but do the results here mean anything to you? It sounds like some sort of firewall, router or proxy server message. x42bn6 Talk Mess 17:40, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

sunnat

What is sunnat89.80.209.103 17:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

See Sunnah. For future reference, though, questions like this belong at the reference desk, not here. GlassCobra 17:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

default search

The search for a particular name returns only a reference to a minor actor, but not that of a well-known academic with the identical name. What is required to have the Wikipedia search return references, with the most important listed first? 18.85.18.109 17:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It would be a big help if you could tell us exactly which pages you're referring to. It sounds like you're requesting a disambiguation page for the name, but you should also read Wikipedia's naming conventions. Leebo ^T/C 18:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you type something into the search box and press "Enter", it's equivalent to clicking the Go button, which attempts to take you to an article of that name first. If you click on the Search button instead, then you will get a search engine-like list of results, even if there is an article whose title matches your search term, so it will show you if there are other pages with similar titles. Confusing Manifestation 22:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

E-MAILing other people on Wikipedia

Hello,

Is it possible to E-MAIL articles from your site to other people?

Elliot Lanes —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bru122 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, you could send an email with the link, or you could copy and paste the text. But there is no email function on Wikipedia itself to generate an email. Leebo ^T/C 18:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

• You can still send them the link to ensure they get the most up-to-date copy of the article. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

• In IE7, there is an icon at the top of the screen that looks like a piece of paper and a pencil, and the word "Page" next to it, with a down arrow for a drop-down menu. If you click on that arrow, you get a series of options, one of which is "Send page by email" and one of which is "Send link by email". I can't tell you about other browsers, but there should be something similar in all of them. Corvus cornix 17:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Printable Version

Does anyone else have the problem when using the "Printable Version" function for any particular entry of having certain pages print and other pages have nothing on them except the standard header and footers (i.e. page title, page #, web address, date)?

For instance, I printed the [Master of Architecture] Wikientry after clicking on "Printable Version" at the top of the screen. Then, the first page printed normally, but pages 3 through 4 printed blank except for the header and footers mentioned above.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AreDaval (talk • contribs) 20:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I tried and tried

To get Kader Abdolah's picture with his discription, picture title kaderschoice.jpg. I just can't get it there, I seem to make things worse instead of better...  :(

I have followed all instructions and uploaded three times, but the picture just doesn't appear. :(

Can you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marjoline (talk • contribs) 20:21, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

The image is there in the article, it just wasn't loading because the picture is so large. I changes the image size down to 100px. Feel free to change it but at least now it loads straight away. AngelOfSadness talk 20:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

My page about a musician.

Hello my name is Alex Brautigan. I am asking a question concerning about an article about this musician named Chris Sutton, who lives in Olympia, Washington. I have attempted many times to keep my page up and I do not understand why it is being deleted. I think the page is significant because it is about a band that is influential on the development on popular music and how music can be percieved. Please tell me, why is my article inappropriate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrwebb1375 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Notability (music). Notability isn't subjective; it's a matter of having coverage in multiple, reliable sources. Things like reviews, interviews, record deals, etc. Leebo ^T/C 21:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Executive summary

How to make an executive summary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.134.111 (talk) 20:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but the Help Desk is for questions about how to use Wikipedia, as indicated by the large red letters at the top of the page. You might try asking at the Reference Desk for factual questions. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

If you should mean an edit summary here at Wikipedia then there is a field below the edit box saying "Edit summary", but it's not there when you add a new section like in your question. PrimeHunter 21:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Administration Abuse

How do you report Administration Abuse? GoaliesRUS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.25.165 (talk) 21:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Replied on User talk:GoaliesRUS. Friday (talk) 21:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I make a new page?

I just want to know how to make a page on the website. The sandbox has been covered with black and blue by Who-Knows-Who! —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs) 22:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Before creating a article make sure it is encylopedia material and not something else. It is notable, and also meets WP:VERI. Thanks for contributing. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 23:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Quick Response, but 1 more queestion

Quick response, but I want to know why (and how to get it off) there is black & blue shapes covering the sandbox page. Idiots and their Images... —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs) 22:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the sandbox. If you want your own sandbox, start it here: User:WinCampXP/sandbox, don't use this page for edit tests, please. Into The Fray ^T/C 22:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

For the record, the sandbox comes up fine for me. Into The Fray ^T/C 22:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Advertisements/spam on user page

A recent visitor to this page has shameless advertisements in the form of linkspam on his/her user page. Is this permissible? If it were anywhere but a Userpage, I'd already BE BOLD; but user pages are tricky and I wish to observe Wikiquette. --Orange Mike 22:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

User:WinCampXP/sanbox <-- that, Mike? Into The Fray ^T/C 22:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Sortakinda, yeah. --Orange Mike 22:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

See [6] -- kainaw™ 22:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanx! --Orange Mike 22:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, I know it doesn't really apply here, but speedy deletion criterion G11 applies to all pages, not just articles. Anything that is blatant advertising can be tagged with that. Leebo ^T/C 22:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't know either. Into The Fray ^T/C 22:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't know that! So would User:Mahadevmadhavnidhi and User talk:Mahadevmadhavnidhi fall under the speedy heading? I've been stumped on what to do about this guy for a while. GlassCobra 01:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. At the very least it's a flagrant violation of What Wikipedia is not, on several accounts. Has anyone talked to him about it? I'm going to blank both pages and leave him a message explaining why he can't use his userspace that way. Leebo ^T/C 01:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Sort of. This guy was a vandal active last month; if you look at his contribs, he tried to make a page for a company called the same thing as his username. He re-created the page several times after it was speedied, including, among other things, the content on his user and talk pages. I don't think he was reported to UAA or anything, though. Doesn't look like he's done anything substantial since, except popping up towards the end of the month to blank all the warnings from his talk page. GlassCobra 01:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you fix the sandbox yet?

{{helpme}}I want to know if you fixed the sandbox main page yet. If you did, I'll make a Thank You site on freewebs.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs)

 Done but please don't make me a website. :-) —[[Animum | talk]] 22:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Photo ?

Hello.....a page: Harold Leighton Weller has been added to Wikipedia. I have a photo for the page if that is permissable. Please let me know how I should submit it.

Many thanks,

Halweller 23:10, 18 September 2007 (UTC)halweller (Harold Leighton Weller )

Please see policy regarding images. Also, as your user name suggests, if you are indeed Harold Leighton Weller (I haven't read the page), please read WP:COI before making any changes to the article. Into The Fray ^T/C 23:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

September 19

Reporting Bias Articles

I have encountered an article that I believe to be bias. I would like to know how to report this to an administrator, or someone who is more experienced at Wikipedia. To make the situation worse, threats of legal action have been made to those that edit said article. Thank you in advance.

Note: The article was "Ballymena Academy". I've made a discussion page on the "issue". —Preceding unsigned comment added by RPGary (talk • contribs) 00:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If you believe the article is biased, you are free to tag it with a {{POV}} tag. If there are any threats of legal action involved, please either contact an administrator immediately or bring a report to WP:ANI. Provide the relevant edits where any users made legal threats and the situation will hopefully be resolved. Thank you. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Lord mortekai

This user has asked the following question with a helpme template:

"whenever i view a wikipedia article on this computer it just appears as regular text; the navigation bar with the wikipedia logo on the left is gone... why did this happen and how do i get it back?"

Anyone more technically proficient than I am have any ideas? Into The Fray ^T/C 00:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems like the CSS isn't loading properly. I'm not too sure why, though. --saxsux 08:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Help!

I am innocent I didn't do anything wrong, so why was I blocked? WHY?!

WinCamXP 00:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Note - This has been explained to this user multiple times on their talk page and now they continue trolling. Into The Fray ^T/C 01:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

And they were only blocked for an hour. Corvus cornix 18:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Citing same source twice?

Let's assume you have a web link reference (using ref tags) and you want to use the source twice in the article body, but not have it show up (autonumbered) multiple times under the references... is there a way to do this? Crimson30 01:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:FOOT#Citing a footnote more than once. --Teratornis 01:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure. The first time you cite the source, instead of using <ref>text</ref>, use <ref name="provide a name">text</ref>. When you want to cite the same source again, type <ref name="provide a name" />.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Crimson30 13:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

2 Pages on the same thing?

Why do we have an article on Isla Grande de Tierra del Fuego and Tierra del Fuego? Shouldn't there be a redirect and only one page? Sseballos 01:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The former seems to be a single island, while the latter is referring to the general area. If you wish to start a discussion for their merger, you may open a discussion on Talk:Tierra del Fuego, and/or tag both pages with the appropriate {{Merge}} tag. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 01:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

One article is an island and an the other is an archipelago. It's like saying that Hawaii and Hawaii (island) are identical subjects. Leebo ^T/C 02:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that's not an appropriate analogy. Really the two we'd be comparing are Hawaiian Islands and Hawaii (island). Hawaii is politically defined. Leebo ^T/C 02:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

deleting a page

How do I delete the page I created? I created a page on myself: Charles Pugh. Someone added a photo of me that I don't want on there. If it's that easy to just add things to my page, then I want it removed, please. HOW DO I DO THAT?

Charles Pugh <email removed to prevent spambots> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlespugh2 (talk • contribs) 02:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, there are a few things going on here that shouldn't have happened. Really, you shouldn't have created a page on yourself; that's a conflict of interest. Secondly, the page is not yours, since you agreed to license the information through the GFDL by creating the page. On the other hand, the article doesn't really contain any sources to establish your notability, so you may not have deserved a page in the first place. You could try nominating it for deletion at articles for deletion, but be ready for the results to not end in removal of your page if others improve it. Leebo ^T/C 02:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. I actually read Charles Pugh and it was just an advertisement for yourself and violated most of the policies and guidelines. Let this be a lesson learned. Don't edit Wikipedia unless you are willing to allow your contributions to be edited mercilessly. Leebo ^T/C 02:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Photos/Images

I love your site, but continually have problems uploading appropriate, non-copyrighted images.

They keep getting removed because I don't know how to tag them. I wish someone could walk me through this. It's too difficult to figure out and I have some excellent, fitting images that would enhance your site.

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by John2690 (talk • contribs) 03:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Uploading images for a tutorial. Make sure you read Wikipedia:Image use policy before uploading your images, however. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 03:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Use the "licensing" box when uploading, or edit the page to add one of the {{template}}s from WP:TAG. Some images need a fair use rationale. --h2g2bob (talk) 06:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

When all else fails, put {{helpme}} on your User Talk page, and when someone comes along asking how they can help, explain the problem to them and ask for their input. Corvus cornix 18:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I contest 'Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flo Jalin'

Hello,

I wrote an article that has become a target for Deletion. How do I contest this? I go to the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flo Jalin, but se no link for rebutal. What do I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericjj9 (talk • contribs) 03:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• Just edit the page like you would any other page and add your comment after a bullet point using an asterisk * . It is generally considered customary to state your position first, in bold, by surrounding the text you want to be bold with three ' .

*'''Keep''' Reason ~~~~

produces

• Keep Reason (Your signature and timestamp).

--Mr.Z-man 04:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Font size

now when I log on to wikipedia, all the text is real small, how do I switch it back to regular size or larger? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.104.41 (talk) 04:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Your browser should have options to set that - usually at View > Text size (or similar). Set it to normal or anything larger. On Firefox, I simply hit Ctrl-0. x42bn6 Talk Mess 04:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Or you can hold down Ctrl button and scroll the mouse wheel, up to decrease font size and down to increase font size in both I.E and Firefox ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 06:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Transferring article from sandbox to new page

I am satisfied with my article in the Sandbox, but I cannot figure out how to transfer it to a new page. I would appreciate your help.

Inver471ness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inver471ness (talk • contribs) 05:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Help:Starting a new page has all the information you need. :) Just so you know, when you post on a talk page, you should type four tildes (~~~~) to sign your posts with your name and the date. Happy editing! GlassCobra 05:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, the Sandbox is not actually a good place to put a planned article, since it tends to be very high traffic (try visiting it now and you'll see what I mean). What you can do, however, is start a personal sandbox and put the article there. I have pulled what you put together from your contributions, and put it at User:Inver471ness/Sandbox for you. Your account is old enough that you can just move it to the article space whenever you want. You may want to take a quick look at Wikipedia:Guide to layout and Wikipedia:Citation templates to see how to tidy up the page a bit. Confusing Manifestation 06:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Mozilla FireFox

Where can I download the Wikipedia FireFox application? The Hybrid 05:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

You mean the toolbar? http://wikipedia.mozdev.org/ --Max Talk (+) 05:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. For some reason it won't download. It say that it isn't compatible with 2.0.0.2. What do I do? The Hybrid 05:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You can add the search engine!--The source of the cosmos... 00:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Title Change

The title of a newly created article isn't appearing the main search unless the precise words in their exact order are typed in. i am sure that the title of the article needs to be changed but am having trouble locating information about title changes and obviously can't change it in the main edit window. can someone clue me in to this, please? Most grateful. --Westkeith 06:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If you wish to change the name of the page, then see Help:Moving a page. As for the necessity of inputing the title, you may make a redirect for a commonly used acronym or similar device for the article in question. For instance, for the video game Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, there is a redirect to that page from KOTOR, a common shortening of the aforementioned title. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• Also, it takes time for newly-created articles to be included in the search index. When you type in the exact title and hit go, it won't do a real search, but simply head for the page with that exact title. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe what Westkeith is speaking of is the article Out of the Darkness (Community and Overnight Walks), there is already an article called Out of the Darkness while searching I also found many other pages with this name in titles which includes:

• Out of the Darkness (1971 film)
• Out of the Darkness (Community and Overnight Walks)
• Out of the Darkness (Retrospective: 1994-1999)
• (1987-1989) Out of the Darkness - Into the Light
• Jerusalem (Out Of The Darkness Comes Light)
• Out of the Darkness EP
• Reach out of the Darkness
• Out of the Darkness, Into the Light
• Babylon 5: Legions of Fire - Out of the Darkness

I Think perhaps the page Out of the Darkness should be renamed to Out of the Darkness (1985 Television movie) and then the Out of the Darkness article changed into a disambiguation page, like the page Mercury ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 08:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I page moved Out of the Darkness to Out of the Darkness (1985 television movie) then changed Out of the Darkness into a disambiguation page▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 00:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding subheadings

I'm wokring on an article that should have subheadings underneath the main headings.

Main Title

First Heading Level 1

Second Heading Level 1

First Subheading Level 2

Second Subheading Level 2

Third Heading

I know how to make the main headings. It's the subheadings I can't do.

Timothy Perper 08:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply

To make sub-heading add (three equal signs) rather then two on both sides of the headline.

Four for sub-sub-heading

in your example this would be:

Main Title
==First Heading Level 1==
==Second Heading Level 1==
===First Subheading Level 2===
===Second Subheading Level 2===
==Third Heading==

also see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings) for more information ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 09:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Are there plans for an AJAX-style edit?

so you can edit without reloading a new page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bboyjkang (talk • contribs) 08:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The reference desk may be able to answer this question. LaraLove 15:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

No, it's a valid Help Desk question. The developers are working on it, I believe; various beta versions of the code are available, but the code for doing that isn't nearly reliable or stable enough to actually use on Wikipedia at the moment. Hope that helps! --ais523 16:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

More information about using AJAX with MediaWiki is on MediaWiki.org and on Meta. --Teratornis 17:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

I was just working on one of my User Pages when someone vandalized the page. I removed it, but the vandal and comment are in the History section. It created an edit conflict too.

It's for User:Timothy Perper/Test

Lunatics...

Timothy Perper 09:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Tim. The Vandal has been blocked. The page looks okay now, don't worry about the edit conflict. Regretfully the page history can't be removed for things like this. Sorry about the vandal! Pedro |  Chat  09:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Pedro! We can leave it on the page history. Sheesh. Buncha loons... Timothy Perper 09:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Add a new page to Wikipedia

Dear sir/madam,

I would like to now how I can add a new page to Wikipedia.

Thanks in advance!

Kind regards,

Quinta van Rotterdam (email removed to protect from spam) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quinta123 (talk • contribs) 09:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 09:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

email purpose

can you send email of mba journals and articles & refer books —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.162.211.23 (talk) 09:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding a line of text immediately under the title of an article

How do I add an explanatory line immediately under the title of an existing article on manga I'm working on?

What I want is:

Title of Article

Disambiguation stuff, already in

I want to add a line in italics next that says "This article deals with manga in general. For details of individual manga series, plots and artists, see individual Wikipedia entries."

Is that clear? This is not a see a specific article, but a general comment.

Timothy Perper 08:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I figured out a way/workaround to do it. If someone wants to check, see the article on Manga. The page now looks the way it should.

And if someone objects to the addition, please believe me, it's needed.

Timothy Perper 10:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• I would say such a comment would be superfluous to anyone reading the lemma. Are you talking about an attempt to avoid too detailed spam on the article? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Stopping an edit war on Cairns, Queensland

Greetings, today, I updated the Cairns, Queensland article with the latest population figures out of todays Cairns Post (The city's main newspaper). Below is the edit history that has caused me to run into the three revert rule. I have tried to remain civil through it...

• 10:27, 19 September 2007 Fosnez
  • Updated population figures with number published int he cairns post today)

• 11:07, 19 September 2007 Thuringowacityrep
  • The Cairns post is not what we use for pop figs, if we did then Towsnville & Thuringowa would have 163,000 not 143,328 we use the ABS stats OK...Good...Thanks

• 14:11, 19 September 2007 Fosnez
  • That's nice, update your own page then, WE use the most current, reliable source, in this case, the cairns post, instead of a census that is two years out of date.

• 15:49, 19 September 2007 Thuringowacityrep
  • thats good but what gets said in a news paper in not always fact or correct and wiki must use fact and the censusis what every other City/LGA uses plus it is current as of 2006, so leave it alone.

• 19:44, 19 September 2007 Fosnez
  • Anf if everyone else jumps of a cliff are you going to? Wikipedia:Reliable sources clearly states that mainstream newspapers are reliable sources. The figure on this page is incorrect by 13,217 people

• 19:56, 19 September 2007 Thuringowacityrep
  • wake up fool you wish cairns had that many people it might with all the tourists but that is not the population we want on wiki, the ABS it what has been used for years and still will be.

In the above edit comments you can see I have been personally attacked, good faith has not been assumed and most importantly the article has got incorrect/out of date facts in it. A couple of things to bear in mind, Thuringowacityrep is clearly from the Townsville area and Townsville and Cairns has a *cough* healthy rilvary, hence (IMHO) the "you wish cairns had that many people" comment.

What do I do about this? Fosnez 10:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• Well, according to the TRR, you have one revert left. If User:Thuringowacityrep reverts it again, then he/she is in violation of the rule. So technically you aren't out of the "fight" yet and no rules have been broken. Edit War is not yet declared, just border skirmishes. — PhilHibbs | talk 12:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Instead of explaining how to "win" the edit war, I would suggest that two editors either take it to the article's Talk page, or to dispute resolution. Or possibly, to Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia for discussion. Corvus cornix 18:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Failed attempt at levity. My bad. However, in all seriousness, it seems to me that the original edit is protected by the 3RR. One other editor can't "win" in removing another person's edit, the rule stops the war with the orginal edit still in place. Is this not the intention? That a second objector must intercede in order for the edit to remain revoked? — PhilHibbs | talk 12:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect Info Johnny Afro

Hi I was doing a search in Google for myself and stumbled upon this wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Afro

for Johnny Afro. Some of the info is not true and I didn't see where it can be corrected.

Someone has embellished some BS.

I was the first hip hop producer to graduate from Stanford University and made popular the "Drum" on KZSU which holds the Guiness Book of World Records as the longest running hip hop radio show.

I had nothing to do with the G-Curl style Afro. That's someone being a clown. How do I clear this up??

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.192.129.20 (talk) 11:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

At the top of the article, there is a tab that says "edit this page". If you click that you will be taken to an edit page much like the one that you used to add your post above. You will see all the text for the current article. Read through that and make changes as necessary. Citing some reliable sources is also necessary. Published information from trusted sources allows information to be verified so that the types of issues you list above (inaccurate information) is not included. LaraLove 15:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Reverting

I'm a bit surprised by the guidance Help:Reverting#Do_not. I've been around at wikipedia for a long time without ever having read this, and although I acccept that reverting someone else can appear disrespectful, I've always taken the view that reverting is by far the best and easiest way to be bold whenever I think that a past version of a page is better than the current one for any reason. After all, I never have any worries about overwriting someone else's material with newer better material, and I don't see why reverting is fundamentally different. Do others see the issue differently? (Note that this is just a question: I'm not involved in a debate or dispute about this topic, anywhere) AndyJones 12:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I imagine its contextual. If somebody has put effort into making what they believe are improvements, they might well be put off by a blanket undoing. Overwriting has more of a chance to incorporate their efforts and to seem collaborative rather than simply dismissive. I frequently revert changes that might be good faith in recent changes patrol--for example, blanking. Many new editors might blank material accidentally, but I'm not going to take the time to retype it all. :) On one occasion, when the editor attempted to insert something and accidentally wiped out the references, categories & see alsos, I copied his or her single sentence addition and inserted into the earlier version, with a note to that effect in the edit summary. I imagine precision in the edit summary is particularly important when doing reversions, as is explaining to the user at his or her talk page why the reversion is made. I wouldn't revert and just say "old one sounds better", for instance. :) --Moonriddengirl 13:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Finding the author

I am doing an assignment on Edouard Manet and have used your site and loved the info it has given the only other thing I need to know is who wrote this information adn when they did. THis is necessary for the bibliography.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.242.134.235 (talk) 13:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

There's a whole page available about how to cite Wikipedia at Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. --ais523 13:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopedias aren't primary sources, and so shouldn't really be used where you need to cite your sources. This is one of the reasons that we are pushing to get more references into the articles, so that they can be used as a starting point for research such as your assignment. A lot of colleges will reject your research or mark it down if it uses Wikipedia as a source — not because of any accuracy concerns, simply because it's an encyclopedia. — PhilHibbs | talk 16:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

history of recreated deleted pages

If a deleted page is recreated (not undeleted), do the version(s) before deletion show in the history? Arutena 13:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Not by default. An admin can re-add them to the history if it seems an appropriate thing to do (depending on what the old versions were), and you can request such a re-adding at Wikipedia:Deletion review. --ais523 13:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

boogytalk

Hello,

A friend of mine told me about a wikipedia page about our site Boogytalk.com. I really don't mind that their is a wikipedia page, but please then a nice one :)

A bit over the website; A few months ago I, with some friends started to build a site where everyone can broadcast himself and talk with eachother via webcams, sound and chat. One of the reasons we wanted to do that, its because we like the Boogie Woogie music, we hope soon, when a lot of visitors will come we can let this music live again.

Kindest regards,

John —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enterpoint (talk • contribs) 13:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi John. I'm afraid that the the Boogytalk article has now been delted (by me) as it did not assert the Notability of the website. Please see WP:CSD#A7 for reasons why articles are speedily deleted from Wikipedia for this reason. Any problems please feel free to approach me at my talk page. Pedro |  Chat  13:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Most viewed pages when i search with a keyword

when i search with a keyword,i want to see most viewed pages with that key word.Is than functionality present in wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.53.95.130 (talk) 13:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

At the moment, view counts for pages aren't maintained because it would place too much strain on the servers. So unfortunately, it's impossible. (Some approximate counts are maintained, but they aren't anywhere near accurate enough for what you suggest because they only give accurate figures for the most popular pages.) --ais523 13:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

duplicate name help

I want to create a new article about someone. A different person by the same name already exists, how can I go about creating this new article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjbermel (talk • contribs) 14:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Create the new article with something in parentheses at the end of the title to distinguish it from the old one; for instance, George Washington (inventor) is a different person to George Washington. You should then put a note up at the top of each article so that people who search for one can find the other; the usual way would be to use the {{otheruses4}} template, and instructions for doing this can be found on Template talk:Otheruses4. --ais523 14:07, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

(editconflict)Usually, what will happen is if there's already one article about one person (ie. John Doe), and you want to write an article about another John Doe, you could create a new article for them by tacking some notable fact about them at the end, like their job (ie. John Doe (author), John Doe (carpenter)). See some disambiguation pages for examples. Also, before you create an article, please read Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article. Good luck! GlassCobra 14:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Help, need to make third revert but fear banning

the article of Anglo-Scottish border is offensive name and should be English-Scottish border, have tried to talk on talkpages and stuff but keeps reverting back, i fear third revert ban, need advise pls. thank you. YESYESandmanygoals 14:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you find it offensive, but "Anglo" has always been the reference name for England in that context, just like "Sino" for China. See Sino-Japanese War. GlassCobra 14:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Glasscobra, thank you many for fast answer. I ask though, what is wrong with English-Scottish border ? surely it is better name and is much more understandable for person not knowing this, the word anglo has many politcal motives in modern times, English is best name, can you help me ? YESYESandmanygoals 14:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

This isn't the place. Work out content disputes on the article talk page. Friday (talk) 14:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

But nobody replies to it, they just do not answer, but when i change they revert it! YESYESandmanygoals 14:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

We can point you to dispute resolution, but this page is not the place to host a content dispute. Also, the three revert rule means that you can't make more than 3 reverts in 24 hours. That's not an excuse for making exactly 3 every 24 hours, but you won't be banned for breaking 3RR. You could be temporarily blocked, but that's different. Leebo ^T/C 15:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

invoking 'Random Article' function from shortcut or homepage

I set the 'Main Page' as my home page a couple of months ago and have found 'Today's Featured Article' to be an easy way to introduce my kids to things beyond 'Current Events'. Today I discovered the 'Random Article' function, which take the 'featured article' concept to a whole new level by providing a new article each time the browser is invoked, rather than just once a day. I noticed the 'Random Article' function does not have it's own address, and also that it can be invoked by 'Alt-X' while in a page.

Not knowing much about browser technology, I am interested in knowing if there is a command line option to invoke the 'Random Article' function directly, either in the Internet Explorer Home Page Address field, or within a shortcut.

Much thanks for any help.

Keljohnca 16:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)keljohnca

The URL (Internet address) of the 'random article' feature is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random (you can set this address as your home page, or bookmark it as a shortcut, the same way as with any other address). Hope that helps! --ais523 16:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Help talk:Archiving a talk page

There is currently a dispute between me and another editor over certain additions to Help:Archiving a talk page. It appears we can not establish consensus between the two of us and since this page is frequented by many users looking to help other Wikipedians, I figured it may be a good idea to come here asking for third party input. — [ aldebaer⁠ ] 17:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Undoing more than one edit at a time?

Hello. I like to help clean up vandalism, but there is something I cannot quite figure out that I have seen others do. How do you go about undoing more than one edit at a time? Right now, I just go and undo them one by one, but I know/have seen people do more than one undo at a time. How do you do that? Thank you! Tabor 17:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

There are several ways. Most often you will see people using an automated tool like Twinkle or AWB for making special edits/edit summaries. Next, administrators have a rollback function for reverting consecutive edits by a single user. Lastly, you can just go to the version you want to restore, hit "Edit" and save that page; that undoes all subsequent edits. Leebo ^T/C 17:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

gulf the book

when did the gulf war begin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.254.23 (talk • contribs)

You should go to the Reference desk for this type of question - this is where you ask questions about editing Wikipedia. However, you might be able to simply look at the article Gulf War. x42bn6 Talk Mess 18:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Screenshot use from online video and Request a photo template

I'd be willing to bet this has been answered somewhere but I don't know where to look. I'm editing an article about an internet celebrity and am looking to get an image for use. Is their policy about using a screenshot? Also what is the request a photo template? I've seen it on a few articles but haven't a clue where to find it. Thank you! Benjiboi 19:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

A screenshot from a video would need a fair use rationale, unless the video was licensed for free use. Such a rationale could not be established for the purpose of identifying a living individual, of whom a free image could be obtained. Unsure off the top of my head on the request template. Leebo ^T/C 19:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

{{photoreq}} should be the template you're looking for - it goes on the talk page, and gives a big red warning message if it's not there. Also, you could put the image Image:Replace this image1.svg up within the article itself - that should make it a little more noticeable and also gives people instructions on what to do about it when they click on the image. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleteing account

How do I delete my account. I don't want to simply abandon my user profile, I want to delete it.Gibbs59 19:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Short version: you can't.

Longer version: This account has only made one edit, which was this question to the Help desk, so there's no need to delete it. If you're referring to another account, you can blank your user page and vanish, but the account will not be deleted. -- Kesh 20:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

You can also tag your userpage and talk page with {{db-userreq}}. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 21:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

That's moot since the user doesn't have an existing user page or talk page, but talk pages are generally not deleted upon user request the same way user pages are. Leebo ^T/C 21:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Move page

To the Wikipedia-team

I have created the following page: "Myc4", but it should have been: "MyC4" - now I'm unable to locate the "move this page"-button on the page. I would kindly ask you to move this page for me.

- Thanks in advance. Rune —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runekokholm (talk • contribs) 19:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I've moved it, the tag reads "move" and should be located to the right of the history tab. You should be aware, however, that the article currently does not establish why MyC4 is notable and has been nominated for deletion under Criteria for speedy deletion A7. Please see our guidelines on what companies are considered notable for more information. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

The reason you can't locate the "move" tab, Runekokholm, is because your account was created today. That function can only be used after a 4 day waiting period. Leebo ^T/C 20:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing Article Titles

How can I edit the title of my article. Each word should be capitalized and they aren't. Just the first word is.

Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.57.75.120 (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If you're logged in with an account that is more than four days old, you can move the article to the correct title. Be sure to check the policy on naming conventions before making your move. :) --Moonriddengirl 21:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

By the way see WP:OWN. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 21:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Malagasy currency

What is the exchange rate between the Malgasy ariary ane the US$ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.106.217.17 (talk) 21:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Malagasy ariary. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. :) --Moonriddengirl 21:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Special Icon

Does anyone have a picture of a pizza I can put on Wikipedia messages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs) 22:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Here you go: [7] Into The Fray ^T/C 22:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

(ec) Also try Image:Pizza.svg Jonathan Mind you, I've made at least ONE EDIT! Huzzah! 22:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Pepperoni_pizza.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs) 22:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by "put on Wikipedia messages?" You can't include images in your signature, it's disruptive. Leebo ^T/C 22:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

'Into The Fray I need to know to put the image so it shows the picture, not the web address.

How do you get the pizza picture show on the message, not show the web address. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs) 22:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

See WP:Image or wait for another editor to respond here. I'm not an image expert. Into The Fray ^T/C 22:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure if I'm answering your question, so tell me if I'm not :) To display an image as a link on a page, type M[[:Image:Imagename]], and to get it to display a picture, type [[Image:Imagename]]. For example:

[[Image:Example.png]] becomes:

and [[:Image:Example.png]] becomes: Image:Example.png. Cheers, ARkY // ¡HaBLaR! 22:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Arky, thanks.

searching for template usage

Is there any way to search for all pages that use a particular template? For example, I'm interested in seeing all articles that have use the {{Protein}} template. Suggestions? Thanks, AndrewGNF 23:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure. Go to Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Protein. Cheers, ARkY // ¡HaBLaR! 23:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Brilliant, I knew there must be an easy link somewhere... Thanks much... AndrewGNF 00:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Finding out the AUTHORS of a particular entry?

We need to know the AUTHORS of a particular entry - for a bibliography. How do we find that out????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.7.142.159 (talk) 23:53, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Check out WP:CW for how to cite Wikipedia. LaraLove 23:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

For an automatic reference generator, check out Special:Cite. Cheers, ARkY // ¡HaBLaR! 00:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

September 20

Editing the MediaWiki side panel

I'm sure it can be done, I just have no idea how. I just want to add another link in there, nothing major. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.45.187 (talk) 00:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it can't be done unless you have developer rights. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:03, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You could make a request for the link to be added at bugzilla, however. You'll have to register an account there to do so. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

(ec x2)I believe only developers can edit the "toolbox", but the text for the other sections of the sidebar is MediaWiki:Sidebar. Though it's only editable by adminsistrators, you can make a request on the talk page. — Malcolm (talk) 01:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe he means something with his User CSS. I have my CSS set to put my toolbox (My Preferences, My Watchlist, My Contribs, etc.) on the left side of the screen rather than the top. Is it that much harder to add a link? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, to change it for all users, yes. But adding a link just for yourself can be done with javascript and/or CSS. I'll explain if you want. — Malcolm (talk) 19:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Admins can change the sidebar for all users using MediaWiki:Sidebar. You can change it just for yourself using user scripts; see the scripts list for currently available scripts, or the scripts requests page if there isn't one that does what you want at present. --ais523 09:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

What is a word for someone who takes a trips?"

What is a word for someone who takes a trips?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.74.74.28 (talk) 00:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You might be looking for tourist, but remember that the Help Desk is not for factual questions. You'd be better off at the reference desk or perhaps Wiktionary, our dictionary sister project. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Automatic Hyperlinking

Hello. Whenever I type in an ISBN, it is linked to Wikipedia Book Sources. Alternatively, whenever I type a full external (outside of Wikipedia) website with the http:// prefix, it is automatically hyperlinked accordingly. This is good. How does Wikipedia do this? Thanks in advance. --Mayfare 00:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it's something to do with the CSS, a set of instructions for how pages get displayed. You can edit yours if you like here. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. - It's actually more likely it's coded into the Mediawiki software - you'd have to ask at the tech village pump for a mroe detailed answer. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:ISBN and m:Help:ISBN links. PrimeHunter 01:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Also see m:Parser testing/doMagicLinks and mw:Markup spec/BNF/Magic links. --Teratornis 01:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Are there notability guidelines for articles on newspapers?

And if there are, where can I find them? -- Craigtalbert 01:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. I'm afraid I need a little more clarification. Do you mean that you want to create an article about a newspaper? If so, Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) is where you want to look. If you want to use a newspaper article as a source for an existing article, check our reliable sources guidelines. If that doesn't answer your question, please be a little more specific. Happy editing! GlassCobra 02:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, creating (or just created) an article on a newspaper, the Boulder Weekly. -- Craigtalbert 02:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

What is a word for someone who takes a trips?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.74.74.28 (talk) 01:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll guess tourist, however, this page is for help using Wikipedia. The reference desk would be the more appropriate place for this. LaraLove 01:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The tile on my page is wrong...it says User: Madison Jones. How do i change that?

How do i change my page title to just say "Madison Jones" and not "User: Madison Jones" at the top, which it reads right now? Is there a way to fix this asap? please let me know, im having difficulties.

Madison Jones 02:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Are you trying to write an article about yourself? android79 03:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
  • ... in which case, please see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Autobiography. The direct answer to your question is that you would move it to Madison Jones per Wikipedia:How to rename (move) a page, but there's already a page there about a different Madison Jones. In this case you'd have to create your page with a different title, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions and Wikipedia:Disambiguation. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

What you have right now is a user page. It's not meant to be an article, it's meant to be a page that tells other Wikipedia users who you are, for example to know what skills you might be able to contribute to Wikipedia. Confusing Manifestation 03:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Significance of "Requested Article"

I discovered today that someone (not me or anyone I know) dropped the following suggestion into your list of Requested Articles Natural Sciences/Biology under Evolution.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&editintro=Wikipedia:Help_Desk/editintro

"Cancer selection (James Graham's book may be a good start)"

I am James Graham (my book was published by Aculeus Press)and I might be interested in composing an article about my idea on cancer's role in animal evolution. However, I am reluctant to undertake the work if that listing of Requested Articles is less than an "official" expression of interest. I'm not a credentialed scientist and although I've received favorable scientific reactions (including a book review in Nature) some scientists are quite reluctant to take seriously anyone lacking the usual credentials.

To check my bona fides go to 1) my web site http://www.jamesgraham.bz/ (the article linked at Butterflies and Wheels is helpful) and (2) Google Scholar (enter "cancer selection" + graham) for more recent papers that refer to my book rather prominently. See Crespi & Summers (2 papers) and Saul and Schwartz especially.

I've only opened an account with you today and did so only because I discovered my name mentioned in the bit I've quoted above.

I'd rather not undertake the work unless you can give me a "green light". Of course I'm not asking for pre-approval of what I may write only that I will not be automatically rejected because I'm what some call a "layman'.

--Aculeus 03:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome to do so if you wish. To get started, you may want to take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article and some of our policies referring to article content - mainly neutrality, and our policies on citing reliable sources that can be easily verified. You should also take a look at our criteria for speedy deletion - many new pages get hit by one of those, and I wouldn't want your article to be one of them. Thanks for your help, it'll be useful for us to have an expert on the subject. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

And, of course, take a look at the conflict of interest guidelines. Just make sure you don't (intentionally or otherwise) promote yourself at the expense of a neutral point of view. Confusing Manifestation 03:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I scroll through Recent Changes and how long to update?

Is there a way I can simply click to see each change that's been made to a wiki in chronological sequence? I've looked at the recent changes page, but can't find an easy way to do this.

Also, how long does it take for a change to show up on the log on Recent Changes. There's a wiki that shows the latest change having occurred 3 days ago, although the most recent wiki has to have been updated more recently.

Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.37.119.130 (talk) 04:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Yup, click on the history tab at the top of a window. Or did you mean to wikipedia overall? There's not an easy way to do the latter, that I'm aware since so many changes are constantly being made. --Bfigura ^(talk) 04:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

And by 'wiki', are you referring to wikipedia, or other wiki's? I'm only really conversant on Wikipedia, where changes generally show up in the history and Special:Recentchanges as fast as the database permits (usually seconds). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 05:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. By "wiki" I meant by particular entry within Wikipedia. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.37.119.130 (talk) 05:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• If you want all edits to a particular entry in Wikipedia, you're looking for the history tab at the top of the article. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

songs for the groom to dance with his mom

my son is getting married next year and we are trying to find a nice song to dance to. my son wants an italian song sung in italian do you have any suggestions????? i would really appreciate any help that you could give me. thank you very much victoria

ps my e-mail address is <e-mail removed> thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.238.198.79 (talk) 05:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

This is the Help Desk for using Wikipedia. Your question would probably be better suited to either the Humanities or Entertainment section of the Reference Desk. Confusing Manifestation 05:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

uh, how do I get a block removed?

Hi, I'm user Markmayhew. My account has been blocked, I don't know why, etc. Can you enlighten me? 68.244.164.5 06:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

According to the blocklog:

Spartaz (Talk | contribs) blocked "Markmayhew (Talk | contribs)" (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (offensive and abusive interaction with other editors. We don't need that here)

As far as what to do, add the following to your talk page.

{{unblock|your reason here}}.

It's not a guarantee, as the unblocking admin will check in with the blocking admin before doing anything. Hope that helps. --Bfigura ^(talk) 06:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

That won't work, as he continued his abusive behavior on his talk page, so it's now protected. He knows perfectly well why he was blocked, as it was pointed out repeatedly. --Pekaje 08:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Joseph Shade

Resolved

Hi there,

I was wondering if you could help me in erasing the mention of where Joseph goes to school as i tried to erase this but it just reverted back. I want this deleted as he is my son and i feel by mentioning where he goes to school it is putting him at risk. thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolly0501 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi. I see what you mean. It's removed from the article but will always remain in the article history. If you need that removed you will need to follow the procedure at WP:RFO. Any problems please ask. Pedro |  Chat  11:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

question

how can i creat my address and forms my pages —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.13.185.253 (talk) 11:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

If I've understood your question correctly, you create your username by creating an account. Please read over the username policy to be sure your name conforms to guidelines.

To create pages, please first search Wikipedia to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.

Your User Page is created in the same way. You may want to review Wikipedia:User page for guidance on what should and should not be included. :) --Moonriddengirl 12:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding images to userboxes

How do I add images to userboxes? I have been trying to add my newly created image (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DAR.GIF) to make a Daughters of the American Revolution userbox but I can't get the image to appear. -- Socal gal at heart —Preceding unsigned comment added by Socal gal at heart (talk • contribs) 11:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Socal gal. It depends how you are creating the box but normally just use something like "Image:DAR.GIF|43px" wrapped in hard brackets. Are you after something like this; ??

This user is a member of Daughters of the American Revolution

Pedro |  Chat  11:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• • Yes, that is what I want to use. Thank you very much! :)

Dead links

How can i find a dead link to an external website within a Wikipedia page??? Pls if possible leave the comments in my talk page. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Dead links will usually show up in red text in a Wikipedia page. Saturn 5 20:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Red links are internal links (wiki links). This question is about external links. Leebo ^T/C 20:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Dispenser's linkrot spider? - Mgm|^(talk) 22:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Turbine

Dear Sir,

We want turbine of 1MW fully back pressure type , which would supply the steam to our paper plant.

The back pressure turbine is to be connected in the extraction line of our existing extraction cum condensing of turbine of 4MW.

The detail of the existing turbine is as follows:-

1] INLET :- pressure :- 64 Kg/cm2, :- temperature :- 490 deg. centrigrade

2] EXTRACTION :- pressure :- 7 Kg/cm2, temperature :- 265 deg. Centrigrade, 15 TPH

3] Power output :- 4 MW at 26 TPH.

Now your paper machine requirement is changed from 7 Kg/cm2 to 5 kg/cm2. Thus we are need of 1 MW power output to be generated or the how much power we can achieve from the extraction of the turbine by reducing the pressure from 7 kg/cm2 to 4.5 or 5 kg/cm2.

Or kindly suggest us what would be appropriate solution to avoid extra consumption of steam for power output at 7 Kg/cm2 extraction. By going up to extraction pressure at 5 kg/cm2 the steam consumption per kwh would be less.

Thanking you,

With regards,

Dwivedi M. S.

098256 06118 email id :- <email address removed> Gayatrishakti paper and boards ltd.,

Plot no. 799/1, GIDC, 3rd Phase,

Vapi :- 396195.

0260-2400451,2401588, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.218.150 (talk) 12:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for questions about USING WIKIPEDIA only. Please try the Reference Desk. Also, please do not interrupt other peoples questions with your own. ::Manors:: 12:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manors (talk • contribs)

How to delete the uploaded Image file

Dear Sir/Madam,

I like to ask, how i can delete the uploaded image file from Wikipedia.

Shersinghrawat —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shersinghrawat (talk • contribs) 12:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. You can request deletion through several different ways, depending on the reason you feel the image should be deleted. The deletion policy may help you determine the best approach. For images, you can request that the image be speedily deleted if it blatantly violates Wikipedia's policies. Otherwise, you can list it for discussion at "images and media for deletion". --Moonriddengirl 13:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

If you uploaded it, you should be able to delete it by adding the text {{db-author}} to the page. --h2g2bob (talk) 15:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

How to edit the wikipedia page title once it created?

I have created the company page on the wikipedia but while creating the page there was a little mistake in the page title.

I searched for the editing options but didnt got any for the page title.

What should we will need to do to edit the page title alos in the wiki url like /wiki/title.

Thanks.

Amar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.193.139.117 (talk) 13:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You will need to be logged in to your account, which needs to be at least four days old. After that, you move the page to the new title. If you haven't already, you might want to review Wikipedia's naming conventions. I hope that helps. :) --Moonriddengirl 13:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Unscrupulous Editing by unknown parties

How do we stop outsiders from editing our site 86.27.147.226 14:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

If "our site" refers to a Wikipedia article then note that nobody owns an article. Everybody are allowed to edit articles but if it's heavily vandalized then you can request protection of the page at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. PrimeHunter 14:11, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

As PrimeHunter says, you can't stop anyone from editing the page, but you can revert vandalism. Leebo ^T/C 14:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

family tree

The formatting for a family tree is extremely difficult for me to follow. Maybe it's easier for a computer programmmer, but I'm not one. Is there some program I can download or feature I can use to easily create a family tree? thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.220.193 (talk) 14:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Wikipedia. Please see the reference desk for questions like this. Leebo ^T/C 14:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want to create a family tree for a wikipedia article see Template:Familytree and the accompanying documentation. This is for wikipedia articles only though. Was there a particular article you wanted it added to? Woodym555 15:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

How do we protect our Page/Article against vandalism

How do we Fully Proctect against vandalismInspirepac 14:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You can request protection of the page at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. --Bfigura ^(talk) 14:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You can't fully protect an article as prevention of vandalism. Full protection prevents everyone except administrators from editing it. Semi-protection is used only in cases of vandalism that can't be reverted by the users who watch the page. Typically that means dozens of vandalism edits by numerous anonymous editors over a course of a few days. If it's less than that, a user can watch the page revert vandalism as it occurs. Leebo ^T/C 15:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Whoops. Quite right. --Bfigura ^(talk) 15:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The edit at Inspirepac is not vandalism. Read the pink box, it explains what is going on there. In addition, please read WP:COI, in which the conflict of intereste rules and guidelines are explained, and WP:USERNAME, which indicates that you should not use a User name which is the same as a company name. Corvus cornix 17:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I put the speedy on them AFTER they asked the question. I'm not sure what inspired the inquiry. --Orange Mike 17:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I didn't compare the time stamps. Corvus cornix 17:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Viewing Footnotes during "Show Preview"

When I am editing a section and working on footnotes and references using <ref>, </ref>, and {{reflist|1}}, (cf. History of the Church-Turing thesis) and then want to view my work with "Show Preview", the footnotes are renumbered from 1 for the section. I can deal with that, however, I have not found a way to see what is actually in the footnote. (cf. Fix the reference boo boo.)

What do I need to do to be able to see my footnotes prior to "Save Page"?

Softtest123 15:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The only advice I would offer is to edit the whole page if you want to see the results in the References section. Leebo ^T/C 15:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I sometimes add <references/> to the edited section during preview and remove it before saving. PrimeHunter 15:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

That works for me! Thanks. A great help. Softtest123 15:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

What a brilliant idea, PrimeHunter! It's never occurred to me to do that. --Moonriddengirl 17:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:FOOT does not mention this handy technique. I will add it now. --Teratornis 17:29, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. PrimeHunter 17:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see WP:FOOT#Previewing and check my addition for errors. --Teratornis 18:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I added a note about temporary renumbering of notes during a section edit. Please make sure I did the right thing.Softtest123 23:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

That was a good point to mention. I reworded your addition slightly to move it more toward the active voice, and I added another paragraph describing a complication that just occurred to me: re-using footnotes from previous sections. While I was there, I looked at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes which seems to be having a huge debate over citation styles at the moment. Yikes. --Teratornis 00:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

borax paste for prewash

To use Borox for stain removal on a pre-wash item, what is the amount of water to use with Borax to make a viable paste? --Do I just make a paste? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.221.60.211 (talk) 16:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You should try reading the directions on the back of the box. We're here to help you use Wikipedia, not do your laundry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry--I thought wikipedia was helpful

I was trying to find information about using borax and was sent to Wikipedia. Sorry to bother you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.221.60.211 (talk) 16:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

removed duplicate response and removed section header. Woodym555 16:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

We are rather helpful, just not for washing clothes. You're welcome to read our article on Borax, but I don't think it has what you're looking for. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The stain article might provide some clues, but it does not mention borax. You could try asking on our Reference desk, where volunteers attempt to answer any question. Or you could try searching the Web: google:stain removal borax, which finds many links. Wikipedia tends to be weak on this type of procedural knowledge, because Wikipedia is not a how-to guide. Other wikis do specialize in this kind of information, for example WikiHow. --Teratornis 17:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The reference desk if for asking these kinds of questions. This page is for help with using Wikipedia. Leebo ^T/C 17:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

See these articles on WikiHow about stain removal. --Teratornis 17:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

You might mention WikiHow to your friends who sent you to Wikipedia. Much practical information is (or will eventually be) on WikiHow that probably will never appear on Wikipedia, because of Wikipedia's content policies. Wikipedia is merely the world's most-visited wiki, by no means the only one, nor always the most appropriate one for a given need. --Teratornis 17:34, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Ask Metafilter and Yahoo! Answers are pretty good for stuff like this too, probably Yahoo! Answers in this case more than Ask Metafilter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigtalbert (talk • contribs) 01:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Why don't others see what I added

I am adding our information to this page, "Editing Bradenton, Florida (section)". I see it when I call it up on my computer, but the information is not there from other computers. What am I missing? Sorry if this is a stupid question! ArtCenter Manatee 16:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound patronizing, but have you saved the changes? Changes should show up within seconds. (To make sure the changes were applied, you can check the history of the page by clicking on the history tab, and seeing if your changes are listed there). Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 17:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

PS: After examining the history (here), it does seem that your changes were applied. Perhaps you need to refresh the browser on the other computer? However, it does seem that some of your changes sound slightly like advertising, which is somewhat frowned upon. (See this page for why that is; or in short: in order to prevent conflicts of interest, we discourage editors from working on articles relating to organizations to which they belong).--Bfigura ^(talk) 17:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your response! I should have said so, but yes I saved the changes, and they did show up on my computer within seconds. When I go to the page from another computer today, it still doesn't show the changes, but I do see the changes from the history tab. When or will it be shown on the main page? Sorry, I don't mean to advertise, just make it clear what we do here. I am, as you can tell, a computer novice trying to get by. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.43.126.66 (talk) 19:39, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

There are very specific requirements for an article to appear on the Main Page. "Today's Featured Article" comes from our collection of featured articles, the best and most comprehensive articles. Did You Know items need to be well-written and substantial new articles. Leebo ^T/C 19:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, by main page I meant for Bradenton, Florida. From Google, search bradenton, fl and wikipedia link comes up, from there you are taken to the page for Bradenton that I am trying to get this information added to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.43.126.66 (talk) 19:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

If you're referring to your edits about ArtCenter Manatee, the changes are showing in the article. Leebo ^T/C 19:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you try to bypass the browser cache on the other machines? You can find browser-specific info here Saturn 5 19:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Some ISP's cache pages and register updates with a varying delay. Then you may have to find another URL which hasn't been cached, or use another ISP. PrimeHunter 23:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Page Deleton

Hi, I just had my page about my book 'The Forbidden Books' deleted for advertising.

I notice other books have pages dedicated to them with links to places to purchase them.

I would like to put a page back up - although structured differently.

From studying other books pages I can see that they are structured differently and would like to try again.

Although I use Wikipedia often, this is the first time I have ever listed an article so am a novice who got it wrong! Emmawhatever 17:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. In general it's a bad idea to add commercial links to wikipedia (see here for more info). The other people doing it are also probably in the wrong. One page that might be helpful would be the notability policy for books. If your article follows those guidelines, you should be all set. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 18:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Writing about your own work is generally frowned upon - we encourage you not to unless you can remain impartial about it. You could list it on the bounty board to encourage others to improve it. --h2g2bob (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Quite correct. Somehow my eye missed the "my" in "my book"--Bfigura ^(talk) 18:19, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Question (in Georgian I think)

minda inpormacia rusuli snaiperis vintovkis svd s shesaxeb inpormacia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.168.163.119 (talk) 18:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to translate Georgian to English and find out what this means? Leebo ^T/C 19:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I found an online Georgian-English dictionary. Not a translator per se, but none of the above yielded any definitions as spelled... Saturn 5 20:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

There's an article at [8] in the lt.wikipedia, is lt Lithuanian or Latvian? Corvus cornix 20:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Did that online dictionary require you to put in the Georgian spellings with the Georgian script? This is clearly approximated using Latin characters. Corvus, I think it's Gerogian mainly because the user is from Georgia. Leebo ^T/C 20:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Ah. I didn't think to check the IP address. But further google searches for some of the words do appear to reference Georgian forums. Corvus cornix 20:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I need Help

Do you know any one the can do the work of a sorceresses if so contact me please. Lester Thabodiaux (if that's how to spell it)

    Uhh, maybe Into The Fray can help.

Help!

Into The Fray, or any other helpers, I have a question on my talk page! Please Answer it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs) September 20 2007 (UTC)

Turning off in-line cleanup template messages

Is there a way for a reader to have Wikipedia not display messages such a ^{[Citation needed]} (the {{Fact}} tag)? I have an editor removing these templates from an article, and I would like to give him an option besides refraining from vandalism. / edg ☺ ★ 21:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Ask Into The Fray To answer that question. WinCamXP 21:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

WinCam, please don't reply unless you're offering help. You may cause an edit conflict with someone who is providing a helpful response.

Edgarde, I'm afraid there isn't. They're there for the purpose of being noticed, so that people using the article for research will know that the preceding statement may not be completely accurate, and editors will know to look for references. I've reverted the editor's removal of the templates and will leave him a note about the tags. Thanks for bringing this up. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Help me on Hyperlinks

I need to know how to make a hyperlink with an arrow like everyone else. Just the one with the arrow coming out of the little box.

By WinCamXP —Preceding unsigned comment added by WinCamXP (talk • contribs) 21:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• External links have that image appended automatically. for example --> http://www.google.com - Mgm|^(talk) 22:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Place the URL inside square brackets to avoid displaying the URL. See more at Help:Link#External links. PrimeHunter 23:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

---

• Other tips:

On external links, [9] <-- you will get an arrow with a number.

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LINK] <-raw form of the above example

by adding a space after the URL then text,the text will appear in the link, ex. Help on Wikipedia linking

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LINK Help on Wikipedia linking] <-raw

On internal link just add [[text]] between two brackets instead of one to interlink WP:LINK

and to change what an interlink displays add a |then text, this is the same link as above

• [[WP:LINK|this is the same link as above]] <-raw
• To link to a Wikipedia sister site, use an interwiki code see m:Help:Interwiki linking▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 23:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

login - email not recognised

I created an account as rewardinheaven in July 2006, when I edited the article on the Popular Flying Association (removed stub and wrote article). I would now like to make a small edit to update the article. However I cannot remember my password and it seems my email was not recorded at the time. This surprises me but it means I cannot ask for a new password.

I cannot re-register as rewardinheaven as it is already taken (list confirms this) and do not want to create a second account if possible as this would be confusing and probably not good practice. Can you help please?

rewardinheaven

84.92.189.134 21:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

• Did you confirm your account at the time of registration? - Mgm|^(talk) 21:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Also remember you don't need to be registered to edit! Saturn 5 22:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

search history

could I save the search history in wikipedia? Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stringari (talk • contribs) 23:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Some browsers independently save the information that you input into a search bar (including Wikipedia) but as far as I know there is no way to actually save your search history other than to bookmark or watchlist pages of interest. —Keakealani·?·!·@ 00:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

September 21

Shrink/shorten/basically make space that the talk page boxes invade smaller

How do you shrink, shorten, or merge talk page boxes? Is there really a way to create a scroller for them to reduce space? Talk:SanDisk Sansa is a very good example, and it's giving me the nerves. --Jw21/PenaltyKillah^{(discuss•edits)} 02:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

{{WikiProjectBannerShell}} will allow you to condense the wikiproject boxes. Depending on how much attention the talk page gets, it may not need the talk page header. LaraLove 03:11, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Painting listing "Yu Shih-hai" by cplumley2

Good evening,

I have uploaded a painting by Yu Shih-hai. It is also available here on my server:

I belive that it was painted about 1920-30 and was in a collection of paintings from my grandmother's home at 76 Brooks Street, West Medford, Mass. (You have a listing for this home on your service, as Amelia Earhart lived there for a time with my grandparents. When I find my photos of the house I will add the monument to that page.)

I have no idea if this painting is copyrighted and how to list it on your servers.

I am really trying to find out about the artist that I can list the painting for sale.

Thank you for your help.

If you do not know about the copyright, it will likely be deleted. Also, do not post personal information here. Wikipedia is not for selling things. Try Craigslist instead. Into The Fray ^T/C 01:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

incorrect image i ubject to using it

there is an image of a nscc color guard on the us naval sea cadet page where the cadets portraied are out of proper uniform in that there Aiguillettes are on improperly 2 of the three strands should go on the outside of the sholder 97.84.155.21 01:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)NSCC PO3

I assume you mean the page United States Naval Sea Cadet Corps, and the image Image:US Naval Sea Cadet.jpg. Obviously we would like an image with everything correctly portrayed, but right now this seems to be the only image we have of such a cadet. If you have an better image we can freely use (see Wikipedia:Image use policy), we would be happy to use it, otherwise an image with a slight mistake is better then none at all. Prodego ^talk 01:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Creating New

I created a new one, however the text is partially in caps and part not. I need to change the format of the spelling, but it won't let me. How can I fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fenwaypark (talk • contribs) 01:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure I understand. you want to change the format of what exactly? The Kato picture, the article, or something else? Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 02:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

With regards to the article, please do not overwrite an existing article with a new one. :) If you are confident that the Kato you wish to write about meets notability guidelines and you are able to supply proper verification, please establish a new page for him. --Moonriddengirl 02:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Citations

I like using WP:CITET. I'm not a big fan of the Harvard templates, because they don't look as neat. At any rate, when using CITET, I'm wondering how to do different page numbers for one reference. If I'm citing a book, cite book works fine once, but what if one time I'm referring to page 100, and another time page 150. I notice that FAC reviewers like page numbers for books. Any ideas? OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 02:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You can list the book under references, then list each use under notes. Each use with a different page number would be it's own note. For example, you may have:

• Jones, M. (2004). A Mother's Tale. New York: Greenbay Publishing. ISBN 3940535054.

1. Jones (2004), pp. 24-36.
2. Jones (2004), pp. 34-35.

Alternatively, you could use {{rp}}, although this is not typically preferred unless you're citing many many different pages from one book. LaraLove 02:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the alternatives. The first choice wouldn't fit under CITET, so I wouldn't like it so much, especially if the article gets a lot of editing, then the numbers could potentially be out of whack (2 could actually occur before 1). I'll look at your section alternative. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 21:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Watching only part of a page

Resolved

Is it possible to watch a page (especially a talk page) such that only edits to a particular section will show up in the watchlist and edits to other sections won't prevent those "desired section" edits from showing up? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

No. Only pages are in your watchlist. It is just a list of page names. When you view it, it quickly queries the recently changed database table for pages with a name in your watchlist. That table does not have page sections in it. -- kainaw™ 03:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

It would put too much of a burden on the servers to allow sections to be watched. LaraLove 03:14, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

OK. I was just curious. Thanks for the quick response. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Grammar

Hi. I've got a question about the grammar (specifically capitalization) in a wikipedia article. The article is for brian_d_foy. Apparently he doesn't capitalize his name. I know there are other 'proper' nouns that aren't normally capitalized. The question is, what should be done at the beginning of a sentence? I would have thought normal English grammar rules would apply, and the text for his name would be capitalized. (I'm particularly looking at the third para beginning 'brian'. I don't have Strunck & White with me, but my 'Australian Style Manual' says in this case: "...proper names that begin with a lowercase letter...either rearrange the sentence so that the proper name no longer starts is or ... convert it to a capital at the start of the sentence" Thanks for any advice. peterl 03:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The Manual of Style has general guidelines on how to format articles, and includes some instructions for special cases such as this, in submanuals such as the one at MOS:CAPS. That particular guide says:

For personal names, capitalize normally within the article, but include the lowercase spelling within the lead. For the article title, follow the lead of outside sources and use the most common spelling and capitalization, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions. For example, if The New York Times and USA Today routinely capitalize the name, use the same style here on Wikipedia. If the situation is ambiguous, capitalize normally.

The submanual on trademarks expands on this a bit further, saying that within the article, standard capitalization should be used (i.e. capitalize the proper noun). In general, though, whatever method you end up using should be what you use throughout the article. Don't switch styles. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I suppose one could try asking brian d foy why he enjoys making life more difficult for other people and wasting their time. There are already enough difficulties in life even when everybody tries to cooperate, I should think. I cannot be alone in spotting the irony: his notability derives from his work on Perl, which is part of computing, and the goal of computing is to save labor - that is also the point behind having grammatical rules. In any case, Wikipedia tramples freely on lots of cultural and religious preferences, so I wouldn't worry too much about how brian d foy prefers to render his name. In my opinion (which is by no means authoritative beyond my limited ability to make it sound sensible), do what you have to do to keep our articles looking at least semi-literate. There might be a template somewhere to tag articles that contain goofily-rendered names, or maybe someone could start one (lest another editor should see what looks like an error and "correct" it). --Teratornis 03:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Viewing languages in articles

When I view articles which text written in different languages, I cannot view the text. It always comes up as question marks. In particular, I cannot view Asian languages, or some text written in IPA. Is there something I have to download to view these fonts? This is an example of an article where I cannot view parts of the text: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system Also, is there a way to request articles to be written? I work for a company I believe qualifies as notable, but agree that my association with the company makes me unsuitable to write it. Do I have to wait and see, or ask someone personally?Pjsiqhh 04:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You can request an article at WP:RA, under the appropriate section. It may take a fairly long time for it to get written, but it's better than doing nothing. Thanks for not trying to write it yourself. :-) As for your first question, which I'm answering last because I had to look up the help page, you should check here for directions on how to get your computer set up properly. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 04:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

How to add photograph to article?

Hi, I wrote an article and would like to add a photo (I own the copyright) to the article/ how would i go about doing this? thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamtrask1 (talk • contribs) 06:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The easiest way is to upload at Wikimedia commons (and your picture can be used within other projects too). Please go to Commons:Upload. This page leads you through the way. Before you can upload a picture at commons, you have to create an account there. To use a picture within an article, please look at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial--Thw1309 07:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Leonardo da Vinci - Vocational training

Hello. I wonder what Leonardo da Vinci - Vocational training program is. So I searched the program in wikipedia. Would you help me find the explanation or the reference for the Leonardo da Vinci? I'm very looking forward to your reply very soon through my e-mail <email removed for your security>. Thank you very much.

This page was created to help users with questions about the use of wikipedia. For questions about the content please look at Wikipedia:Reference desk and ask your question there. If you should be looking for the european programm please look here--Thw1309 07:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Logo

How do I add a logo for the airline I have written the history for. I can produce a gif image easile, but where toI download it to, and how do I insert it in the page?Tnuag 07:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)tnuag

You can upload the image via the 'Upload file' box in the toolbox, which will be at the bottom of the left column if you are using default preferences. For instructions on adding an uploaded image to an article, see Help:Image. --ais523 09:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, it's better to have the image as PNG format rather than GIF. Wikipedia:Upload is the page to use to upload the image, just give it a description and choose a licence tag (such as {{Non-free logo|Airline logos|Central African Airways}}). Then include it with something like logo=Central_African_Airlines_logo.png| in the infobox. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Copying a biography with permission...

I recently created a page for a well known south western artist and was given permission from his family to copy his biography from his website. Your copyright bot said that it found the connection and told me to delete the copied material. What shall I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BDeVine123 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• See Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission#When_permission_is_confirmed Either have the person themselves write to Wikipedia from an identifiable address or forward the permission you got yourself. Also, it's generally not a good idea to copy biographies because they tend not to be written in a Wikipedia compatible format and tone. I recommend you use the facts and write the biography for Wikipedia yourself. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Also, getting permission is often trickier than it first might seem. Merely granting permission for use in Wikipedia isn't good enough, because Wikipedia can be copied so the permission needs to be broader. Put simply, all material has to be either public domain or licensed in a way that is compatible with the GFDL. The simplest from our point of view is to get the copyright holder to agree to license the material under the GFDL itself, but that can be hard to explain. Sometimes it's easier to re-write the text using just the facts, like Mgm says. If you don't have the time or the confidence to do that, just link the bio in External links and let someone else do it. If the person is notable, then someone will do it eventually. — PhilHibbs | talk 09:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

How does Wikipedia ensure the quality of its articles? Bad articles can lead Wikipedia in to very serious trouble especially if they invlove people who might sue you. Simply put how do you check the millions of articles and remove bad edits? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rylong2 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, anyone can change the articles in any direction; much of the checking is done by readers who happen to come across the article and correct mistakes in them (the principle is that there are more people who will correct the articles if they come across a mistake than there are deliberately trying to mess them up). There are also people (and computer programs) who monitor all changes being made, trying to spot bad edits and reverting them as they happen. There are other methods as well, but despite these there's no way that Wikipedia can guarantee that all the articles are correct (see the General disclaimer). --ais523 09:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

A simple question with lots of answers! Regarding articles on living people we have some very specific policies - see WP:BLP for more. In general, articles can go through a good article review to check for "quality", with the aim of getting articles up t0 Featured status. However the most important thing is this is a wiki! The aim of Wikipedia is constant improvement, and the thousands of people who edit here each day (generally) are all trying to remove bad edits and replace poor content with good content. You can help us!! Pedro |  Chat  09:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

See:

• Wikipedia:Overview FAQ#Who is responsible for the articles on Wikipedia?
• Wikipedia:Overview FAQ#How do you know if the information is correct?
• Wikipedia:Replies to common objections
• Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (as mentioned above)

--Teratornis 15:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

GFDL questions

I'm setting up a new wiki soon, and will be importing pages from here using Special:Export. Below are some of the pages

• Template:Sprotected
• Daewoo Magnus
• Middlesbrough
• Asperger's Syndrome
• Disability
• Girls Aloud
• Hallam FM
• MediaWiki:Monobook.css
• MediaWiki:Common.css

Is it a violation of the GFDL to edit the source of the XML files, changing all the ".svg" image files to ".svg.png" files because my webhost does not support SVG uploads??

Thanks, --Solumeiras ^talk 10:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not a violation of the GFDL to edit pages (if it were, then Wikipedia would have quite some legal problems trying to run!), but the rules are slightly different if you're editing rather than making an exact copy. See Wikipedia:Copyrights#Reusers' rights and obligations for an informal explanation of what you have to do, or the GFDL itself for the full legal details. (Basically: you have to make it clear what you've done (for instance in the edit history of the image description pages), licence the changes under GFDL (unlikely to be a problem in a GFDL-licenced wiki), keep track of the previous history (which Special:Export handles for you), and make sure that the new version is available in a machine-readable form (unlikely to be a problem in this case; however, as the SVG is probably the preferred form to edit the image in rather than the produced SVG, to be safe I'd recommend you link to the original SVGs somewhere, maybe Wikipedia's copy of them if you can't upload them yourself).) --ais523 10:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for that, ais523. I'll have a read through of the copyrights page.

This is an example:

Image:Octagon-warning.svg.png

Image from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octagon-warning.svg

The wiki I am making is for editing, and not a copy of pages from Wikipedia (like answers.com and other sites that mirror it).

I was unsure about if it was a violation of copyright to change all SVG images to .svg.png images in an imported copy of the pages into my new wiki.

Thanks, --Solumeiras ^talk 10:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

That looks fine to me. Just one other quick note: not all images (as opposed to text) on wikipedia are GFDL; see their image description page for licensing information on each individual image. (All images used on templates have to have licences that specifically allow you to do what you're doing, though; this is Wikimedia policy.) The licences used will either be GFDL (as in the example you've given), public domain (this puts no conditions on the image at all, so it's impossible to mess that one up), or Creative Commons licences (which have a subset of the requirements of the GFDL; the most common Creative Commons licence used on Wikipedia would require only keeping track of the author and keeping the same licence, which is a subset of the GFDL obligations). So if you follow the rules as for the GFDL, and copy the licence templates used over, then you're unlikely to have problems whatever the licence. --ais523 10:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you for that explanation. The only images I was going to re-use would probably be the Nuvola icon sets used on talkpage warnings and templates. I'll have a look at the licences now. At least now I don't have to worry too much. --Solumeiras ^talk 10:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

New section

როგორ დავრეგისტრირდე და გამოვიყენო ვიკიპედია ვახტანგი —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.114.225.127 (talk) 10:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. :) We'd be happy to try to help you if you could translate your question, but questions in other languages may go unanswered unless somebody else who speaks it happens to be manning the help desk. --Moonriddengirl 11:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You could ask your question at the Georgian language version of this page, reachable here.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Dubious times in top Asian 'international academy'

I am currently an employee of '__________international academy' in Korea, and am extremely concerned by levels of corruption at the school. The information is true; however, I cannot at the moment produce evidence as i'm an employee there until I fulfill my contract. Having said that, I feel completely outraged with the goings on there and the treatment of some of the students: people need to know.

The academy is very wealthy and influential however, therefore I'm trying to watch my back.

I will publish on this site, but I need to know that they won't be able to track me (I am not kidding with my concerns- if you mess with this organisation, it can have serious consequences).

I know you may deal with a lot of fake stuff, but this is not. I just don't know what to do: people can't get away with this!

I can't say too much here, because this is in the public domain, but i'm just hoping that I can publish with reassurance that I can't be found by them (my employers) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wynspuds (talk • contribs) 13:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

As you note you can't produce evidence, Wikipedia may not be able to help you with this. There is an official policy against original research. And if the evidence that you can produce is not already published in a secondary source, it is not proper for Wikipedia's purposes. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is a compendium of known and published facts. However, even if you produce proper secondary sources, Wikipedia can't guarantee your anonymity. While private information is not routinely published, there may be some cases where Wikipedia is compelled to reveal that information. See Wikimedia:Privacy Policy. Depending on the laws of Korea, you might have better luck speaking to local media or locating a supervisory organization to help you. Perhaps you could find a way to deliver your evidence anonymously there? I'm sorry that the situation is so dire, and I hope that you're able to resolve it. :( --Moonriddengirl 14:21, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

There's quite a few places where you could put this information. I seem to remember a Wiki-style site dedicated to this that uncovered some corruption scandal, but I can't remember the name. It was essentially an encyclopedia of "leaks". -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 04:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Persistent infrequent possible vandalism

I watch the article Guiseley. Every so often User:195.171.89.178 comes along and adds that that historian Barbara Haydock is a local resident. I'm not sure that this person exists, and if she does then she's not notable (the entry on her was deleted earlier this year [10]. Every few weeks User:195.171.89.178 adds the name to the article and then I come along and delete it. I've tried discussing it with them, on their talk page and on the article's talk page. What can be done to stop this waste of time? Thanks, Dupont Circle 14:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

There's not a whole lot, other than having more people watch it. A long-term IP block wouldn't really be appropriate, since it's not severe vandalism. Semi-protection also wouldn't be appropriate, since the frequency is so low. Leebo ^T/C 14:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

center for jewish history

Hi,

I attempted to make changes to the page, "Center for Jewish History". My changes were reverted, per the message below:

"September 2007 Thank you for your recent edit to Center for Jewish History. Unfortunately I had to revert the edit, as sections seeme to have been taken from another source, possibly breaching copyright. These additions also did not have the encyclopaedic style which we try to aim for on wikipedia, but read like an advertisement. Thanks. Quantpole 14:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)"

I work for the Center for Jewish History, as the primary public affairs staff member, and do most of the writing about the Center. The changes that I attempted to put on the page were accurate AND my own work. I am not sure why my edits were not accepted (nor do I know who posted the Center's wikipedia page in the first place).

Can you please let me know what I can do to correct this information so I can provide the Wikipedia community with accurate and complete information about the Center for Jewish History?

Thank you,

Hadas Almagor Deputy Director of Development and Public Affairs Center for Jewish History Hadasalmagor 14:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for working to improve the encyclopedia. Unfortunately, I have to agree with the person who reverted your edit, because it appears to be largely copy/pasted from another source and reads like an advertisement for the Center. Wikipedia has a number of policies and guideines that must be followed when adding information to an article. Of significance here is the neutral point of view policy. You work for the center, so it would be difficult for you to write a neutral entry on it. This is discussed at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You can propose changes on Talk:Center for Jewish History, but please do not edit the article directly. Leebo ^T/C 14:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The other problem is that, as they say, "on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". In other words, while we do try to assume good faith in most cases, if you're contributing content that you wrote for another website, it is copyrighted (by you, most likely), and because the content on Wikipedia is supposed to be licensed under the GFDL, we can't blindly accept anything that appears to be non-free content. Yours is one of about three or four questions recently about a similar topic, and I believe if you scroll up a few sections you will see where there is some information on how you can release your text under a free license so that there is no copyright violation involved. Confusing Manifestation 15:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

copyright text

Hi there,

I work at Penguin publishers and have been trying to update my author pages and book title pages but having trouble with text. Specifically with Neris and India's Idiot-Proof Diet. Every time I enter the book summary (from our own penguin systems that I myself wrote and has been approved by the author) it gets removed because the bot finds it on another website. Even though it is clearly in my own copy-right. Please help! I also don't know how to add book images which are fully cleared for me to put up on this site without them getting removed.

Jenny

Jenpeng 14:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see a bot doing it. It looks like another user, User:Madman, removed it most recently. Basically, as an encyclopedia article, the page shouldn't contain copied text from another source, even if you own the copyright for that source. It should be written in original words, or you could place a link to your hosted version of the summary. Regarding the images, you need to provide copyright information and a fair use rationale. See Wikipedia:Non-free content. Leebo ^T/C 14:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Intersection

I was wondering how it is possible to do a intersection of 2 categories to find out how many are in both. Such as list of album covers without fair use rationale. Dommccas 15:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

You could try asking Jogers, because I think he has Jogersbot update the list. Leebo ^T/C 15:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks i'll ask him Dommccas 15:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• You can also try CatScan; I've got it listed on my userpage. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Hallo

Hallo, wie du Windeln trägst? danke. --Co Signer 15:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Please ask questions in English in order to allow more people to understand. Leebo ^T/C 15:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, confine your questions to Wikipedia. For questions about things such as diapers, use the Reference Desk. -- kainaw™ 15:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

We do of course have an article about Diapers which you may read. If you have a question about editing the German Wikipedia, you could ask at de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia. --Teratornis 15:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

weir gut danke --Co Signer 15:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

(undent) Note to Help desk volunteers: when questions arrive in languages other than English, Wikipedia:Language recognition chart may be helpful. --Teratornis 15:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Note to Help desk volunteers: this guy' s German is even worse than my English. So this seems to be a stupid joke. Please do not try to help him any more. --Thw1309 17:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Considering your question is in German considering asking your question here. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 21:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Photo archive

Hello,

I wonder how to proceed to have access to the phto archive as You can find in the French Wiki version "Photo du jour" as photo of the day ?

Please let me know. Thanks in advance, Jean —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.73.161.116 (talk) 18:34, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The page archiving the Photo of the Day changes by month, but you can get to all featured pictures by going to Wikipedia:Featured pictures. Leebo ^T/C 18:42, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

removing a flag/message

I have added internal and external links and believe my entry is no longer orphaned. How do I remove the message generated by Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wendyweiss123 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned means no articles link to it. You need to place links to the article in other articles with appropriate context so that there is more than one way to get to it other than searching. Leebo ^T/C 19:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

As Leebo notes, to, erm, de-orphanize an article, you need to find relevant articles elsewhere on Wikipedia that should be linked back to it and add such links there. :) Once you have done so, you simply edit the article to cut out the template. Look for text between brackets. The orphan template looks like {{Orphan}} and may have a date attached. --Moonriddengirl 19:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The article still has a lot of other problems. It is not an encyclopedic entry in its present form, but a list of "medical foods" and links to outside sources. It has few or no wikilinks; no categorization; etc. Please wikify the article first, before worrying about the orphan tag. --Orange Mike 19:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

my article doesnt appear when I search

Hi Wikipedians I wrote my first article. It appears under "my contributions" However, it does not appear when I search Wikipedia. What have I done wrong? ILPAC 19:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I see it when I search for CETO Wave Power. Leebo ^T/C 19:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe the Wikipedia seach function had not indexed CETO Wave Power when you searched it but it's in searches now. If you want Google search or other external searches then Wikipedia has no control over when they index a new page. PrimeHunter 19:36, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

New articles

can you write your own articles, and how —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.155.248.201 (talk) 20:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• Please read Wikipedia:How to start a page. Wikipedia:Your first article details what is and isn't a good idea for article topics. Remember, if you want to write your own articles as in you owning the material, Wikipedia is not the place, see WP:OWN. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Fourth Geneva Convention

The Fourth Geneva Convention article starts with Artical 2. It goes on from there but does not include Artical 1. What does Artical 1 say and why is it not included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.165.172 (talk) 20:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

This sort of question is best asked at the Reference Desk. --Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 21:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

"Article 1. The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances."--Thw1309 21:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The full text can be found in the first link at Fourth Geneva Convention#External links. Article 1 says: "The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances." Wikipedia does not bring full source texts. Other sites like Wikisource specialize in that. I guess Wikipedia editors have tried to select the articles considered most important. PrimeHunter 21:12, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

See also wikisource:Geneva Convention/Fourth Geneva Convention. PrimeHunter 21:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I want to access wikipedia from my Verizon mobile phone..

Dear friend of the All-knowing Wiki,

I really want to be able to access wikipedia while i'm on the go. I currently have a mobile web 2.0 capable verizon mobile phone. It's not a smart phone or a pda. Is it possible for me to access wikipedia from this?

Thank you for your repsonse.

66.75.4.149 21:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know the technology but maybe Wikipedia:WAP access is of help. PrimeHunter 21:38, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Arbitrary break

Hello, I recently edited the Wikipedia page for Best Friends Animal Society. Could you please take the disclaimer off the top of the page re: it being written like an advertisement? I think the new copy is much better.

Regarding citations, I'm not sure what you mean by that - and how to cite within an article. If you could please give me some guidance, I'll make the changes.

Many thanks.

John Polis jpolis@earthlink.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpolis (talk • contribs) 21:39, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

A guide to citations is here. Hope that helps. (I've also marked some places where you might need to cite sources). And after a cursory examination, the copy does appear improved, so I'll remove the advertising tag. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 21:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation

AFC is faulty. The main page doesn't display all articles from the subpage and even though the tags are closed properly, the older submissions header is included in the collapsible close box. Can someone with template and transclusion experience look into this? - Mgm|^(talk) 21:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• Purging either page isn't helping. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:03, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
• Ah, there it is. Missing noinclude close tag meaning nothing after it was included. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Admin requested....

If an admin is watching here, can you please take a look at this question for this user? Thanks in advance. Into The Fray ^T/C 22:29, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I unblocked his IP and re-blocked it to approximately the former length with a soft-block. That should solve the problem. :) Nihiltres^(t.l) 23:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much! Into The Fray ^T/C 23:06, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

September 22

Edit history

Is it possible to delete some histories from Jena High School. Thanks,Thedjatclubrock :) ^(T/C) 01:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)>

I don't think it's possible to delete a history, although upon examination I think I understand why you would want to do so, and sympathize. You may want to consider that since a significant section of the article is devoted to "Racial tension" it might be more valuable to demonstrate to readers that that sort of vandalism is not tolerated at Wikipedia and is quickly reverted or edited. I'm sorry not to be able to help you more. Accounting4Taste 01:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Specific versions of articles may be deleted by admins, although it should only be used if the version includes someone's personal information. --Agüeybaná 01:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Walt Disney's "Zorro" television series

There is a mistake on this page regarding the hour-long episodes aired on the Disney anthology series. The article stated that the episodes were shown in color and that they aired on NBC. This is incorrect. All four episodes were filmed in black-and-white and aired on ABC during the 1960-61 season, when the series was called "Walt Disney Presents." The show moved to NBC in the fall of 1961, where it was renamed "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color."

How do I make these corrections?

72.245.7.45 01:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

You can learn about the mechanics of editing a page at Wikipedia:How to edit a page; anyone can edit a Wikipedia article. However, one important principle at Wikipedia is that content must be verifiable (click on the word "verifiable" to find out more about that policy). You need to be able to back up your assertion about Zorro with reference to an outside source -- a book or a magazine article, for instance -- that says so. My copy of The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network TV Shows doesn't seem to list Zorro separately, so you may need to do some digging. If you don't back up your assertions with a reference, someone else may come along and say that you're wrong and change it back to what it was... I hope this helps. If you need more information, leave a note on my talk page. Accounting4Taste 01:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Please help me about Pokémon Cheating Encyclopedia if you can!

Help! I made an encyclopedia so people could get Pokémon cheats and glitches. I was being nice, so why was my page (Pokémon Cheating Encyclopedia) deleted?! And is there anything I can do about it?

Unfortunately, Wikipedia does not include how-to articles. (See WP:NOT#HOWTO). So Wikipedia might not be the place for an article on how to cheat in Pokemon. However, you might take a look at the Pokemon Wikiproject and see if you'd be interested in contributing there. --Bfigura ^(talk) 02:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I have put Pokémon Action Replay Encyclopedia up for CSD as well. User:Blair Bonnett replied to your earlier edit with this However, this is not suitable content for Wikipedia (see WP:NOT, specifically WP:NOT#HOWTO). If you want to create a Pokémon cheat wikia, you could try somewhere like Wikia or Bluwiki Blair - Speak to me 01:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC) . I think he said it perfectly. This type of content does not belong in an encyclopedia. Please see Pokemon wikiproject for how you can help edit Pokemon related articles. Woodym555 02:15, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:WWMPD#If all else fails, try another wiki. You can search for a Pokémon-related wiki on WikiIndex. For example, try: wikiindex:Category:Games and wikiindex:Category:Pokemon. WikiIndex lists several Pokemon-related wikis, including The Pokémon Encyclopedia. Most wikis that specialize in a particular topic accept articles on that topic with fewer content restrictions than Wikipedia has. Which means your work is more likely to be acceptable on a wiki that specializes in Pokémon. --Teratornis 10:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Which is to say, I would have to slightly disagree with the "said it perfectly" assessment, since there was no mention of the suitable alternative wikis that already exist. Starting an entirely new wiki is much harder than editing on an existing wiki, so that would normally be a last resort. In general, it seems too few participants in deletion debates on Wikipedia are fully aware of the several thousand alternative wikis that already exist. Even worse, many of the new users who create new articles on Wikipedia that violate one or more of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines seem to be utterly unaware that there are other wikis besides Wikipedia (and I think Wikipedia needs to do a better job, somehow, of pointing this out to new users who try to create new articles). --Teratornis 10:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I think said it perfectly was a fairly adequate statement. I dont think it is neccessarily our job to mention every single other wiki. Most Wikipedia editors are here to help Wikipedia to develop. That being said the link to the Pokemon Encyclopedia is here: http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Home . I do think that some editors should be guided elsewhere in their endeavours because they have valuable contributions to make to other wikis. We can't provide a link to every other wiki though because, as you say there are thousands. Woodym555 10:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Dale Wiley deleted for the wrong reason

I had an article deleted about Dale Wiley, saying that there was nothing notable about him to include him in Wikipedia. I thought it was notable that he was the only player (to best of knowledge) to have played pro basketball both as an able-bodied player and then later as a handicapped player after an accident. I also thought that other people would come across the page to either confirm and add on to the information, or to let us know why the information was no longer accurate. It doesn't help that his fame was from before the days of public internet. He did meet with then-President Ronald Reagan, and played a leading role in organizing the Para-Olympic Games. I have no conflict of interest here. I was simply trying to research Dale Wiley and found that nobody had anything about him in Wikipedia, so I thought I'd just post what I knew and see if more info could be added from other sources more knowledgable than myself. He could be a hero and role model for handicapped persons and specifically for wheelchair-bound persons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrommer (talk • contribs) 02:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

You might want to contact the admin who deleted the article (User:Tawker) and see if he would be willing to copy it to your user-space, so that you can improve it. Alternatively, you could go to deletion review, and see if you can get it undeleted there. In either event, you'd also need to make sure that you can create an article with verifiable, independent, reliable sources. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 02:44, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

The article wasn't really written in a way that made his notability clear. It wasn't in an ordinary Wikipedia biography style. I'm not sure if you copied the text from somewhere else, but it would need to be completely rewritten. Leebo ^T/C 04:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[Wikipedia Table of ] Contents

Recently, I'm experience the ineffectiveness of the "Content" section of Articles: When I Click on an item, it flickers, but nothing happens - I do not get to the section kisted!

Is that just my prblem? Or is it Vandalism on Wikipedia? Or what?

Best. --Ludvikus 05:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like a problem with your browser. Have you tried it on another browser or computer? It should work. Leebo ^T/C 05:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

WOW! My hat goes off to you (if I were wearing one)! You are Fast and Correct.

The problem was on Netscape. When I switched to Explore the problem disappeared!!!

Thanks so much?

Now how do I fix it? I Love Nescape, and can't stand Explorer!

Yours truly, --Ludvikus 05:46, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, can't help with that... I use Firefox. Perhaps the reference desk folks can help with a broswer issue. Leebo ^T/C 05:53, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

See the entries under WP:EIW#Browser. --Teratornis 10:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Where to ask for others to look at an article?

People need to look at the Judge Judy and Judith Sheindlin article. They've gained the attention of a user (and his many sockpuppets) who has been abusive and seems to think he owns the pages. He called me names and has slowly reverted all my edits (and the edits of others), calling them ridiculous and erroneous, and continually removes cleanup templates. Other uses have commented on the talk page about the article needing cleanup. Where do I ask for experienced Wikipedians to pay special attention to this article? I am not sure Request for Comments is the best place. Kat, Queen of Typos 07:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll put both pages on my watchlist. ByeNow is the abusive editor you mentioned? GlassCobra 07:21, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, if it starts to become a matter of policy violation, you could try AN/I. --Bfigura ^(talk) 07:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Kat, Queen of Typos 07:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I have left reminders about our civility policies at the talk pages of User:Lormos and User:ByeNow. It's plainly inappropriate for Lormos to use edit summaries like "Oh my fucking god did Rainbow really mess up this page" and to imply that you don't "do anything very useful" on Wikipedia (Talk:Judge Judy). Neither is it proper for ByeNow to call your edits "ridiculous" and tell you to "stop whining". I hope that they will read over the policies and change their approach to the conversation accordingly. It is of a bit of concern that your mention of indefinitely blocked user Tratare and potential sock puppetry was immediately removed from the page. If evidence develops to lead you to believe that such is the case, please consider seeking assistance at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. --Moonriddengirl 12:23, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Cell Phone Tracking

How do I track the location of a cell phone? <e-mail removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.202.204 (talk) 07:23, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

That's not really a question that belongs here. Try the reference desk. GlassCobra 07:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

See Cell phone tracking and you can search Wikipedia with Google for: GPS cell phone which finds some other articles that mention this topic. --Teratornis 10:53, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

article version number

How do I determine the article version number of a particular article? This is so I can use Wikipedia as a source in papers. I read the recommendation on how to reference and it suggested to add the article version number at the end of the URL for that page. However, where is the article version number located?

Thank you! gillian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.15.245 (talk) 08:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

• You can see it by clicking the revision in the history. If you are talking about the most recent version, click: "permanent link" in the sidebar to the left. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

You probably also want to check out Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Confusing Manifestation 12:49, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

images

how to insert images in the articles of wikipedia?Are the images inserted already loaded somewhere in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hedonister (talk • contribs) 09:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they are. To insert an image it first must be uploaded to the servers, then it can be added to articles. See Wikipedia:Uploading images and Wikipedia:Picture tutorial, and there are a lot of other helpful pages in this list. Raven4x4x 09:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

please do reply

plaese send me more research papers(if any ) on the subject of thermodynamics of ideal solutions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.245.43 (talk) 10:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

You could start by reading the Ideal solution article. --Teratornis 10:44, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

• Try searching article databases like Pubmed or global ones at an academic library. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

ctenophora

what is the structure of aboral sense organ in ctenophora? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.33.96 (talk) 10:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

If you don't find the answer by reading the Ctenophore article, you could try asking on the Reference desk. Or try: google:aboral organ ctenophore. --Teratornis 10:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way to create your own private experiment page?

I have a future article in mind, but my plan for this article involves a table which will be time consuming to create, and I'd rather make the table before putting it into the article. I'm just wondering how that works, if such a thing exists. DandyDan2007 11:07, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

You can create a sandbox in your userspace. Just click on User:DandyDan2007/Sandbox and away you go. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Subpages as well. Woodym555 11:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Using with research function in MS Office

What url is used to include Wikipedia in the research function for MS Office? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fozzel (talk • contribs) 12:34, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

copyrights

The following image has the following Licensing message attached to it. the same message is attached to the maps of the British, Portuguese and French empire maps. does the license message mean that i have the right to use this map in a publication of my own?

Image:DutchEmpire.png

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".

also, there were animated maps of the same empires that have now been taken off the article. is this because these maps had copyright infringements? or because they were invalid?

Dent09 12:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the GFDL, which you can read in full at that link, gives you the right to duplicate the content within. It's the same license Wikipedia uses for all of its content. You can find more information here. Unfortunately, I'm not sure why the image was removed, but it's likely there was some form of copyright problem, or a consensus was reached somewhere that a static map works better for our purposes. You're free to look it up in the page history if you like - it's probable whoever removed the image left behind an edit summary explaining their actions. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:01, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Footnotes

I can't create footnotes correctly. What could I be doing wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.101.86.117 (talk) 14:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:FOOT has all the details, but a common mistake is not adding <references/> or {{reflist}} to the bottom of the page. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Also be sure to close your inline references with </ref>. That one gets me all the time :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saturn 5 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, thank you sinebot. :P Saturn 5 17:39, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

IGCSE history question on why did some industries not share in the 'boom'? this is during 1919-1941

Q1... explain how new technology affected some older industries?

Q2... explain what impact the tariff had on certain industries?

Q3... explain the reason why the wages of workers in certain industries remained low in comparison to profits.

Q4... why should the government have been concerned about poverty in the USA during the 1920's?

Q5... do you think the government would do anything to help these workers? why ?

Q6... explain whether you agree or disagree with this statement? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.69.179.16 (talk) 15:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

The help desk is for questions on USING Wikipedia ONLY. try asking that question at the Reference Desk. DeSalvionjr Talk | Contribs 15:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Note, however, that the reference desk is not there to do your homework for you. You're not going to learn anything by not doing the work yourself. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Hidden search box

Have you considered placing the search box closer to the top of the welcome page.

As the box now is located, I find I cannot view it even at the bottom of the 1st page. I must scroll down to it on the left of my screen.

Most people, I would bet, come to Wikipedia to search for something and not to read the articles - though they are of interest, generally worth looking at.

Why not place the search box where it is immediately visible at the top of your 1st page ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.0.184 (talk) 16:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

It's visible on my screen. Try making your font size smaller in your browser, or adjusting your screen's resolution. Unfortunately, there's not much we can do about this anyway, as such changes would have to be made by the MediaWiki developers. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:42, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

It's right in the middle of the left side of my screen when I'm at the top. Of course, I have a larger than average resolution. Try increasing your screen resolution. Leebo ^T/C 17:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

If you go to Special:Preferences and change skin to Classic or Cologne Blue then the search box should be at top, but many other thnigs change at the same time. PrimeHunter 18:43, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Haven't received e-mail with new password

Hi. I registered a couple days ago, and when I logged in yesterday I apparently forgot my password. I hit the "e-mail new password" button, but I haven't received an e-mail yet. I tried to hit the "e-mail new password" button again, but it says I've already had an e-mail with a new password sent to me.

I'd appreciate any help anyone can offer.

69.183.180.185 17:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

First, I'd check to see if the email is getting trapped in a spam filter somewhere. Other than that, there isn't a way to recover the password without having access to the email address that originally registered it. So I'd suggest creating a new account. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 17:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Use images from another (language) Wikipedia

Hi,

how can I use an image in my article, if the image has been uploaded to a different Wikipedia? To be more specific: I wrote an article in the English Wikipedia and uploaded an image for this article. Now I would like to use the same image for the German article. Using the standard command didn't work, however. So, how do I have to do this? I bet there is another way than simply uploading the same image to the German Wiki.

Your help is appreciated, thank you!

Regards

- spitfire —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spitfire ch (talk • contribs) 18:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Since the image you uploaded is being used under a claim of fair use, you will need to upload it again on the German Wiki, sorry. If it was an freely licensed or public domain image, you could have uploaded it to the Commons instead and been able to do this. It's not possible to link to images across languages due to the limitations of the software, and the German Wiki would need a local copy of the fair use rationale in German. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I see, I will upload the images to common from now on, I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for your help! --Spitfire ch 18:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Hang on there - You can't upload fair use or copyrighted images to the Commons. They won't accept them, they're very likely to get deleted, and you're very likely to get blocked over there if you do so. Fair use images MUST be uploaded to the project you intend to use them on locally. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:03, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Storm Thorgerson & my band

Okay. So my band's page had been deleted a while back. It is now back up. But now, I'm having trouble linking our band's name from Storm Thorgerson's wiki to ours. He did our first album cover.

band name: Program The Dead. any help would be appreciated.

P.S. our Title says "Program the dead" We prefer it have a capital D. ANy help on how to fix this if it can be fixed?