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Update (5 December 2008) - links to discussion of key issues: Secret evidenceBiographies of living peoplePOV-warringIncivilityUndoing admin actionsFormer arbitrators on the mailing listArbitrator recallVacating arbitrationsReforming checkuser/oversight rightsSpeeding up decisionsTendentious editing and civil POV pushers.

With ArbCom perhaps at its lowest ebb, and attracting high levels of dissatisfaction, this incoming tranche of arbitrators will not only have to handle cases but also face reforming the way the committee works. Perhaps the most urgent priority is tackling perceptions of growing irrelevance, lack of transparency through excessive use of private space, and delay. I believe I am well-equipped for the job as I have considerable parallel experience.

Introducing me ... in a nutshell: active editor since April 2007; a Milhist coordinator since August 2007; administrator since February 2008; Milhist lead coordinator since March 2008; significant contributor to five featured articles; copy-editor for six more; dispute resolver; and intermittent wiki-gnome. See my user page for more wiki-biography stuff, article lists, languages and so on.

Otherwise, I'm calm and analytical, with no axes to grind. I try to combine civility with brevity and good humour. (Strangely, I also enjoy drafting text for simplicity and clarity, and have done a far amount of this with Milhist guidelines.) I rarely get irritated and never show it. I am used to negotiating consensus in difficult and/or innovative areas. So although I have had much to do with Wikipedian organisation in general, I have had little to do with ArbCom and thus come to this with a fresh mind.

If elected, I am likely to

  • spend the first month or so easing myself into arbitration, while I learn the ropes thoroughly and familiarise myself with what has gone before;
  • use my position on the Arbitration Committee to work for greater transparency, a minimum of secrecy, and faster decision-making;
  • prioritise winning back the support of the community;
  • seek consensus (probably through open workshops) for developing fast-track and summary procedures.

Support

  1. Nufy8 (talk) 00:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support. Rschen7754 (T C) 00:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 00:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Cla68 (talk) 00:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Captain panda 00:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Rationale. Giggy (talk) 00:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Tom B (talk) 00:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Strong support SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. ~the editorofthewiki (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 00:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support --Banime (talk) 01:00, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support Sam Blab 01:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  12. krimpet 01:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support Majorly talk 01:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support bahamut0013 01:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Steven Walling (talk) 01:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Avruch T 01:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Strong support Great user, intelligent, not crooked, doesn't mess other people around. Hard worker. YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model) 01:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  18. --ragesoss (talk) 01:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  19. I had made a list of people who I would be find with (though not necessarily in top 7) on ArbCom and this candidate was one of those people. - NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 01:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  20. PhilKnight (talk) 01:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  21. Reasonable approaches to most positions. Gimmetrow 01:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  22. iMatthew 02:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  23. -- Euryalus (talk) 02:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Graham87 02:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  25. A sound, level headed voice for the community. AgneCheese/Wine 02:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  26. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 02:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Support. rootology (C)(T) 03:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Support - Shot info (talk) 03:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Epbr123 (talk) 03:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  30. Pcap ping 04:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  31. From what I've seen of him, he seems to be a good editor. Master&Expert (Talk) 04:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  32. Support -MBK004 04:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  33. We need some fresh voices in ArbCom. Mike H. Fierce! 04:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  34. Strong Support - excellent grasp of policy, phenomenal at both discussion and conflict resolution, level-headed. In short, exactly what ArbCom needs. Cam (Chat) 04:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  35. --MPerel 04:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  36. Support Kingturtle (talk) 05:24, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  37. Strong support. Among his many excellent qualities, Roger understands that the role of Arbitrator is much more than what's written down at WP:ARBPOL. There is no doubt he'd be an excellent arbitrator. --JayHenry (talk) 05:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  38. Support. Everyking (talk) 06:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  39. Support.Athaenara 06:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  40. Support: Intelligent, experienced, and keeps a cool head - all useful attributes for this job! Walkerma (talk) 07:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  41. Support - Roger has been the Lead Coordinator for the Military History WikiProject for some time; he has wlays been kind, courteous and helpful, excellent wualities for an Arbcom candidate. Skinny87 (talk) 07:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  42. Support - From what I can tell, he understands policy and understands the need for reform in ArbCom. He gets my support. -- Nomader (Talk) 07:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  43. Support Roger has an outstanding ability to work with other editors to resolve disputes and excellent leadership skills. Nick-D (talk) 07:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  44. Support Has lots of clue, stays calm in disagreements with the most vociferous of opponents. Woody (talk) 08:00, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  45. sephiroth bcr (converse) 08:00, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  46. Support لennavecia 08:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  47. Dark talk 09:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  48. --Aqwis (talkcontributions) 09:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  49. Hell yes. Rebecca (talk) 09:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  50. Black Kite 09:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC). I was only going to support seven candidates, but I'm impressed enough to make an exception.[reply]
  51. Stifle (talk) 10:24, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  52. Strong support. - much clue, devoted to transparency. Yes please. // roux   editor review10:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  53. neuro(talk) 10:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  54. I'm Mailer Diablo and I approve this message! - 11:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  55. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  56. Support G.A.Stalk 11:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  57. SupportScott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 11:34, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  58. SupportBellhalla (talk) 11:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  59. Support You have always acted with gallantry and with the best of intentions. --Narson ~ Talk 12:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  60. Support See my reasons in User:Secret/ArbCom. Note if there isn't a comment on the candidate there, I was on vacation and couldn't edit the past weekend, will leave one today. Secret account 13:04, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  61. Support --CrohnieGalTalk 13:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  62. Support. Cirt (talk) 14:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  63. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  64. Support per SandyGeorgia. Jehochman Talk 15:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  65. Strong support PseudoOne (talk) 15:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  66. Patton123 16:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  67. I tossed a coin to decide whether to vote for you or Jay, for my seventh (and final) support vote. I trust you both and would like to see you on the committee, but making eight or more would be counterintuitive. So, congratulations on winning my coin toss, although I doubt either of you two actually need the support :P Sceptre (talk) 17:04, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  68. Support. Gavia immer (talk) 17:22, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  69. Support. I have been very impressed with Roger in all of my dealings with him. He is level-headed and infailingly polite. I trust his judgement. Karanacs (talk) 17:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  70. Support Parsecboy (talk) 18:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Support ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, you are not eligible to vote this year, you must have had 150 mainspace edits by November 1. ST47 (talk) 20:24, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  71. Support on the basis of overall cluefulness and experience as a content contributor. I like the insight evidenced by requesting a one-year slot. I'll admit I found your answers to the questions a bit vague, and the one on NPOV/scientific consensus mildly concerning, but the overall package looks deserving of support. Best of luck. MastCell Talk 19:29, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  72. Yep, few concerns. PeterSymonds (talk) 19:47, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  73. Strong support JonCatalán(Talk) 20:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  74. Support. Yeah. Ceoil (talk) 20:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  75. AGK 20:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  76. Support. NVO (talk) 20:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  77. On balance, some concerns in questions but not quite enough to prevent me from supporting. Davewild (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  78. Support Mathsci (talk) 20:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  79. Support--Taprobanus (talk) 20:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  80. Strong Support He is always very professional, calm, and a good person to work with on MILHIST stuff.Joe Nutter 21:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  81. Strong Support per his excellent work within WP:MILHIST. —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 21:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  82. Synergy 21:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  83. Support Good experience, good understandign of policy. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  84. Support United Statesman (talk) 22:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  85. Incredibly hard worker. Deserves it. —Ceran (speak) 22:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  86. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:22, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  87. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 22:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  88. Support Kernel Saunters (talk) 23:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  89. Support - has good track record and relevant experience for ArbCom. Warofdreams talk 00:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  90. Support --Nepaheshgar (talk) 00:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  91. Support...Modernist (talk) 00:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  92. Support Would prefer this user over others running. GlassCobra 00:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  93. Support hard working and sans drama. definitely a wikiperson. --Regents Park (bail out your boat) 00:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  94. With apologies to Prodrego, Arbcom's first and last job is the protection of the encyclopedia. Everything else is an optional extra. Mackensen (talk) 02:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  95. Support ---Larno (talk) 02:16, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

  1. Oppose, although nothing personal: I have chosen a group of seven editors that will make the best new additions to ArbCom, reflecting diversity in editing areas, users who will work well together, as well as some differing viewpoints.--Maxim(talk) 00:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Voyaging(talk) 00:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Mr.Z-man 01:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. OpposeSumoeagle179 (talk) 01:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Nothing personal, but I picked a group that I want to win. RockManQReview me 01:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  6. ArbCom must be disbanded and replaced with a system which actually works. Sorry, I oppose. Bstone (talk) 02:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Dlabtot (talk) 03:22, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Oppose "ArbCom has a duty to protect the project from harm" mmm, read WP:ARBPOL I don't see that on there. Prodego talk 03:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It's implicit in Rules 1 & 2 and explicit in the policy those rules refer to. (See examples here.) --ROGER DAVIES talk 08:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Caspian blue 04:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Oppose. (rationale) rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 04:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Oppose. Dragons flight (talk) 06:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Answers to questions say nothing - either he doesn't know what he thinks, or he's not saying. Naive on BLP.--Scott Mac (Doc) 12:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Oppose - not impressed with the conflict around Mrg3105. I don't want such things from an Arb. Colchicum (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Oppose. Franamax (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Oppose. The bane of our election process is that it favors people who work hard and don't step on any toes. These people may be great Wikipedians, but are they really equipped to handle the site's toughest disputes? The 2008 ArbCom has been plagued with too many milquetoast pass-the-buck remedies. Remedies that address serious administrative misconduct by asking people to play nicely together; remedies that delegate authority to WP:AE in the form of general sanctions. And as we've seen many times including very recently, those discretionary sanctions can cause more trouble than they solve. It's time to elect arbitrators who have a track record of solving conflict, not sidestepping it. Roger Davies has blocked only 11 people during his tenure as an administrator--which has been less than one year. Those blocks were easy calls. You're a wonderful Wikipedian, Roger. But you're too green for the position you're seeking. Come back in 2009. DurovaCharge! 23:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Durova pretty much sums it up. I think you do a fantastic job on Wikipedia, but while your "when to listen, and when to tell people to shut up" balance is right for Wikipedia as a whole, I don't think it's the right mix for Arbcom. – iridescent 23:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]