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    April 14

    Problem with the edit toolbar

    What is with the lack of mark-up icons on the top of the edit pages? A number of handy ones disappeared a while back and none were visible today.

    Thanks!Stormbay (talk) 03:28, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    If you refer to the Edit toolbar, it looks normal to me. If you are running a browser such as Mozilla Firefox with a safer-browsing extension such as NoScript, be sure you or something else did not accidentally disable JavaScript for Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 17:21, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks! It returned to "normal". Maybe I bumped a key. --Stormbay (talk) 02:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    What can we do if we discovered contents with irrelevant reference/ links?

    Can we simply delete the contents by ourselves if we discovered those contents weren't supported by relevant resources or are giving expired links? And also, is it possible that other editors have the right to delete some of the contents even they were proved / supported by relevant references? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.178.0.214 (talk) 03:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Be bold, anyone can edit. If in doubt, suggest your change on the talk page of the article. If there is a disagreement, we discuss things on talk pages. See WP:PILLAR.  Chzz  ►  03:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You mention "expired links", which are not necessarily a reason to delete contents. See WP:LINKROT. And yes, bring it up on the article's Talk page. Bus stop (talk) 03:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    national output world comparison map dot placement

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/2005iron_ore.PNG on this kind of map for several articles, the American dot looks like it's over New York City 67.248.142.151 (talk) 04:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The external links in our Iron Ore article indicate iron mines in the states of NY/NJ and around the great lakes. I can't really see a problem with the graphic. CaptRik (talk) 07:50, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    If the map is supposed to show the approximate region of most production then the U.S. dot should be over the western end of Lake Superior. 95% of U.S. iron ore is mined in that area. Rmhermen (talk) 16:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I get a global account?

    I have an account in Malayalam Wikipedia. The account name is Curious10. When I try to create an account in English Wikipedia, it says, the account exist. However, I can not log in to English wikipedia using that account. What do I do to get an account in English Wikipedia with the same username? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.187.69 (talk) 11:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    the account User:Curious10 was created in May 2006, the account has never made any edits. You can request to usurp the account. GB fan (talk) 12:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    {{sign}} redirected

    Resolved

    Why was {{sign}} redirected to {{Uw-tilde}}? What template do we use when someone forgets to sign now?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I generally use my own, {{User:chzz/s}} (subst'd). Should that be moved to template space? Go ahead, if you like.  Chzz  ►  15:57, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Because of this deletion discussion. To tell someone that they ought to sign their posts, use {{sign}} or {{uw-tilde}}; to sign someone's unsigned posts for them, use {{unsigned}} or {{unsigned2}} as before. BencherliteTalk 15:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I forgot. What I wanted was {{unsigned}}--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:02, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Aah, that one. Cool.  Chzz  ►  16:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    MIMI

    For an article I edited I uploaded a photograph to Wikipedia Commons. I now want to upload the same image for this same article written in another language. However, when I try to do this the upload is cancelled for the following reason: "The extension of this file does not coincide with MIME." I have not been able to discover what MIMI is. More important, how can I solve this problem? Thanks for any help.

    Zimmermann 15:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barcolongo (talkcontribs)

    I guess (from your global contributions) that you mean Image:Brull Mariano in 1913 when he was 22 rbz.JPG? That image is already on the Spanish Wikipedia article, es:Mariano Brull.
    I have also just added it to the article in Catalan; see this edit.
    Commons is a 'common' area - images on Commons can be used on any "Sister Wiki" - which includes all the different language Wikipedias.
    If, however, you are having problems with another image, please let us know. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  16:04, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    MIME is a way for internet applications to detect file formats. When you upload a file the content is examined to determine what type it is— JPG, PNG, OGG, etc. If the detected type does not match the filename extension, then you get this error. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 16:09, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    error! Ellicott Creek Article

    I do not wish to create an account, but Ellicott Creek Park is in the town of "Amherst" not Tonawanda NY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.129.110.203 (talk) 16:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    You don't need to create an account to edit Ellicott Creek Park - just click the edit button. You do, however, have to provide a reference to verify where it is. Maybe the fact is in a book or newspaper? You'd add that information in-between <ref> and </ref>, directly after the fact. For example, you'd put...

    The park is in Amherst.<ref> "Some book", by A. Person, page 23. ISBN 123-456-7890.</ref>

    Alternatively, if you'd like us to make the edit for you, just let us know - preferably giving a reference to a reliable source (although we could try and find one for you, otherwise).  Chzz  ►  16:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Removing a notability tag

    A notability tag was inserted onto the page I created entitled Mark Pretorius. Changes and clean-ups have been made by a few of us since then. More info on the scholar was added to his research sub-section entitled readers to include the necessary info. I believe it now meets criteria 4.The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions. My question is: How do I get the tag removed? I cannot find any info on this. Thanks in advance.

    Infrasupra (talk) 17:10, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    If you feel the concerns that a tag signifies have been addressed, you can remove the tag yourself. It's good to leave a note on the talk page of the article to let people know why you felt it was okay to remove it but this isn't always done. Dismas|(talk) 17:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I added the notability tag to that article, and, despite the recent edits, I am still of the view that he does not meet the criteria referred to in WP:ACADEMIC. – ukexpat (talk) 18:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Unable to confirm my email address

    I tried to confirm my email address several times for the last two days. However, I cannot do it. Pleas let me know how to do it. I watched s few QnA here about this problem, but I cannot find the way to do it. I received email from Wikipedia as follows:

    Someone from the IP address xxx.xx.xx.xxx has registered the account "YYYY" with this e-mail address on the English Wikipedia. To confirm that this user account really does belong to you and to activate e-mail features on Wikipedia, please open this URL in your browser: URL1 If you did not recently register for Wikipedia (or if you registered with a different e-mail address), click the following link to cancel the confirmation: URL2 This confirmation e-mail will automatically expire at 09:14, 21 April 2011 (UTC).

    When I clicked URL1 to confirm my email address, the webpage shows em the message "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired.." cooldenny (talk) 17:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It works for me. Some email programs may break the confirmation link into two lines. If that happens, please copy all parts of the link together into the browser address bar. There should be a long code of about 32 characters after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail/ PrimeHunter (talk) 18:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for your answer. However, it still does not work though putting the full URL into the browser address bar as you recommend. cooldenny (talk) 20:11, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Will you forward the most recent mail to the address at my website [1]? Then I will try to confirm it for you. It doesn't matter whether it's confirmed from somebody else's computer. I will not get your password and not be able to log in to your account if I succeed at confirming the email address. Do not mail me your password. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I sent you the most recent email, PrimeHunter. cooldenny (talk) 08:16, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I also got "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired." I don't know what the problem is. It still works fine for my own account and alternate account. Try to temporarily change the email address at Special:Preferences and change it back. Make sure you don't click URL2 with Invalidateemail in the url. That will disable the ConfirmEmail link from that mail and cause it to give the quoted standard message "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired." PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    When following your recommendation. I can see a very interesting results. my another email address (Email 1, my Gmail), the one that I filled out into a register form of Wikipedia However, what I really want to put into my email address (Email 2, my workplace email) does not work, after changed my email address into Email 1. I cannot understand what happens to my Email 2. One more interesting thing is that when trying with Email 1, the confirmation message come one second right after clicking the save button of my preference, but when trying with Email 2, long time takes (about 1 hour) in receiving the confirmation message and I can find the message in my spam folder. cooldenny 17:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

    LOGIN PROBLEMS

    I have tried logging in various times. I know that my username and password are correct as I wrote them down but I don't seem to be able to login. What might be the problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.154.219 (talk) 19:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Given the lack of details in your question, some possible reasons:
    • Can you log in anywhere else? Have you recently changed browser settings? Installed a new antivirus or whatnot? Maybe you have disabled cookies in your browser.
    • Did you input the username in the exact case? With my user name for example, if I log in as "Obsidian Soul" it will work, but trying to log in as "obsiDian Soul", "obsidian soul", "Obsidian soul", "Obsidiansoul", etc. will not. Same thing with your password. --ObsidinSoul 19:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Have a look through Help:Logging in for various common problems and suggestions. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:56, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Arsène Lupin

    I added updated info to Wikipedia that the movie starring Lionel Barrymore and others..but now it's been deleted by someone. wikipedia doesn't give credit to a wonderful movie with Lionel Barrymore...and furthermore, I gave references but someone deleted my entry. Barbara Rice —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.156.29.37 (talk) 20:55, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It took some time but I finally found your edits [2][3] with a slightly different IP address 5 months ago in Arsène Lupin (film). A film article in Wikipedia is about a single film. Another film of the same name should get a separate article with a disambiguated name such as Arsène Lupin (1932 film). See Wikipedia:Notability (films) and Wikipedia:Your first article before considering to create an article. Arsène Lupin#Films shows a lot of films by this name. Arsène Lupin (film) is about the 2004 film so your mention of the 1932 film was removed in [4]. Click the "history" tab to see the page history of an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I found a more recent edit as well. Same advice as PrimeHunter. They are different movies. There are at least four movies with that title. They have to be in different articles, not share the same article space. For an example see Dracula (disambiguation). It was made into at least six films with the same titles. That excludes television and other adaptations.
    The best way is to write a new article about the 1932 film as suggested by Primehunter separate from that article you attempted to edit (which should be renamed Arsène Lupin (2004 film), but that can be taken care of once there are other articles about other films in existence).--ObsidinSoul 22:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I moved the movie to the more correct title, created Arsène Lupin (disambiguation), and added hatnotes at the top of the articles. Should be less ambiguous and confusing now.--ObsidinSoul 22:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    How many fair use images can be used in an article

    In an article like List of Dragon Ball characters, if one would add one low resolution screenshot per character listed there, and each screenshot is used only in this article and only once, would that still be considered fair use? Also I am aware of WP:MCQ, just thought I ask somewhere. If it is more appropriate to ask there, I can do that. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I found WP:NFLISTS. This should be what I need. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Multiple Chris Masons, I'm one of them...

    Chris Mason is a fairly common name.

    If you type in "Chris Mason", you see this:


    Chris Mason, or Christopher Mason may refer to:


    I am certainly not notable enough for my own wikipedia article, but I - Chris Mason (nobody) - have been confused multiple times for Chris Mason (Linux hacker). The confusion happens because Chris Mason (Linux hacker) could also be called Chris Mason (Linux hacker living in the Bay Area) and I could accurately be called Chris Mason (Linux noob & hobbyist living in the Bay Area).

    I've tried to make the difference clear with my online footprint by adopting "Christopher T. Mason" as the name I use online, but both of us being Linux nerds and both of us having a web footprint, and me introducing myself in person as "Chris Mason" - the confusion still comes up once an a while, usually resulting in disappointment from whomever is looking at my resume or my card or whatever person I just gave my name and phone number to, and what have you.

    Chris Mason (me) http://ctmason.wordpress.com/ http://sites.google.com/site/masonux/

    Chris Mason (Linux hacker) Google search "chris mason open source" or "chris mason linux" or anything close to that.

    Searching for "Chris Mason" by itself returns the wikipedia disambiguation page as second result, something that I am sure contributes to the confusion. People google for me, an open source nerd named Chris Mason encountered in some nerdy context, and see "Director of Linux Kernel Engineering at Oracle" - not me, and it bothers me that people give me credit for his many accomplishments.

    Similarly, I doubt Chris Mason (Linux hacker) would want to be confused with Chris Mason (Linux noob and community college student) - something bound to happen when/if my web footprint increases over time.

    If it has been determined that CM (Linux hacker) is notable enough to be mentioned in "our" collective disambiguation page, so be it - I wouldn't ask that his name be removed. I don't feel that I am notable enough to be mentioned, however. So, I'm not really sure how to peruse this as it applies to that #2 Google result (wikipedia disambiguation for "Chris Mason"). Any suggestions?

    I would have brought this to the relevant discussion page, but the Chris Mason (ice hockey) discussion page seems to be the same as the Chris Mason (disambiguation) page for some reason.

    Earthpig (talk) 23:00, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Regarding the talk page redirecting to Talk:Chris Mason (ice hockey): fixed. Regarding the unfortunate coincidence of sharing a name with someone who has similar interests: not really sure there's anything we can do. Since the company he founded has an article, I suspect it's more convenient for our readers (though less convenient for you) that the entry remain there. One of those minor annoyances we have to live with, I suppose. To be honest, i kind of doubt you'd get much response on that talk page, though; unlikely someone is watching it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:11, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I can't think of anything that can be done through this venue either, but I was hoping someone else would have an idea that eluded me. One other reason it is relevant is because I've expressed strong negative opinions about his employer in the past. I'd hate for some high mucky-muck at Oracle to google my name, see him as an Oracle employee on the wikipedia page... ya. Bad mojo. In any case, I've also e-mailed the other Chris Mason mentioned and pointed him here (the URL leading here won't be changed tomorrow, will it?). Maybe, at the very least, he could hit file -> print and keep this filed away somewhere 'just in case'... Earthpig (talk) 23:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    As long as he follows your link within 7 days, the URL to this thread stays the same. After 7 days, threads get archived (see top of this page for where they go). --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Will this be an a correct link, a week from now? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2011_April_14#Multiple_Chris_Masons.2C_I.27m_one_of_them... EDIT: ah, crap. the "..." got chopped. I'll just wait a week and see. Earthpig (talk) 23:30, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Best bet is to use an archival service. I've archived this thread using WebCite here, so by using that URL you'll have a permalink to this page. doomgaze (talk) 23:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    An archival service will only show the content at the time of archiving. Your guess about the archive url here at Wikipedia is correct. If you mail a url ending in periods then the mail software of the recipient is also likely to remove the periods when the url is clicked. You can replace them by their percent-encoding %2E to get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Multiple_Chris_Masons.2C_I.27m_one_of_them%2E%2E%2E and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2011_April_14#Multiple_Chris_Masons.2C_I.27m_one_of_them%2E%2E%2E. Chris Mason is mentioned in Btrfs. If you are not mentioned in one of our articles and we don't expect to make an article about you then our guidelines are against mentioning you on a disambiguation page. Such pages are intended to lead the reader to the right article and not to list everybody by that name. However, we should list the birth year on disambiguation pages per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)#People. Do you know a source for the birth year of the other Chris Mason? If it's different from you then it could potentially prevent some people from confusing your identities. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    April 15

    Russian Incubator

    For our project page we would like to create an 'African Incubator' (like the Russian Incubator). I've tried to get in contact with the creator of the project but I haven't had any luck. Can anyone help me? Riannedac (talk) 09:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Like Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/Article incubator? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:12, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    New Article

    I was reading the "create a new article section" and it stated not to write an article on your band or a friend. I have an entertainment company and I wanted to add articles on three of the acts signed to the company. The acts have several major music industry credits. Can I add articles on these acts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Che933 (talkcontribs) 00:35, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Nope; that's exactly the kind of thing we are attempting to discourage. If you genuinely feel they are notable, as defined at WP:BAND, then follow the procedures for requesting the creation of an article, disclosing as you do your own obvious conflict of interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Question

    Has a single user ever had back-to-back edits on Recent Changes? jc iindyysgvxc (my contributions) 06:24, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I'd say yes. Tools like Twinkle that do edits on multiple pages/multiple edits on the same page do so fairly quickly - if the rest of the project is quiet around that time, it's ~possible to get back-to-backs with a bit of luck. 212.68.15.66 (talk) 09:37, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    This must happen often. Based on revision numbers, there was only one edit between my manual edits 387826598 and 387826600. I had prepared many similar edits [5] in separate tabs and only had to click Save. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm fairly sure it has happened to me once at least, with WP:TWINKLE. Zakhalesh (talk) 20:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    It does happen, I just had two manual edits set up and they are back to back, 424256649 and 424256650. GB fan (talk) 20:31, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Vowlgar

    A Death Metal/Technical Death Metal band hailing from Chicago, Illinois. Vowlgar, as its fans know it today, originated as two separate bands that eventually merged. The first, the original Vowlgar, began in early February 2010 with guitarists Miguel Montesinos and Drew Torres, drummer Mike Manfredini, and bassist Nick Fontana . Eventually, however, Miguel left the band and quickly looked to form another project. Thus laid the foundation for Risen of Kratos , with members Miguel, vocalist Alessandro Limone, and guitarist Frank DeLuca . Unfortunately, failure to find a drummer and bassist brought the project quickly to an end. Alessandro and Miguel, however, were still looking to make music. Eventually, with guitarist Mike Almassey, they formed the second band in question, Final Pulse , in December 2010. The band then added drummer Mike Manfredini and bassist Katie Nielsen; however, as both Katie and Mike A. had left relatively quickly, it was clear that the group needed some familiar energy. From there, bassist Nick Fontana and guitarist Drew Torres joined with little hesitation. Incidentally, the newly formed band contained all of the former members of Vowlgar; therefore, during a meeting exactly one year after the first Vowlgar was born, the group decided to carry on its original name. With 2011, the legacy continues.

    Members
    Alessandro Limone-Vocals
    Drew Torres-Guitar
    Nick Fontana-Bassist
    Michael Manfredini-Drums/Percussion
    Miguel Montesinos-Guitar
    1. REDIRECT www.reverbnation.com/vowlgar
    2. REDIRECT [[6]]
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    I feel like a dimwit

    Okay, let me begin with a self-whack!, since this is a question a newbie should be asking, not a dirty old editor like me. Some time in the past I set a preference or a script or a spirit guide or something which causes edit pages to jump down past the stuff at the top so that the top of the edit tools is at the top of the screen. I'd like to turn it off, but can't now figure out how I did it. A clue for the clueless, please. Sheepishly, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 13:37, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Does it happen if you log out? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:43, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, it's persistent between sessions. Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 14:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    The is is not any gadget, script, CSS or JS. I think this is an artifact of how pages are loaded with the new MediaWiki. There have been some similar discussion at WP:VPT. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. It's good to know that the senior moments aren't running together yet... Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 14:20, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    cached image problems

    Hi there,

    I managed to edit Xerox logo here: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Corporation However it still shows the old image on the redirect page here: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox Could you please help me with this issue? I was reading FAQ all day long, but didn't came across such topics.

    Many Thanks, Koponyanyimonyok

    Koponyanyimonyok (talk) 14:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks both correct to me. Please see WP:Purge to manually reload cached images.--ObsidinSoul 14:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    As this is the help desk for the English wikipedia, we can't do a lot to help you with problems at the italian wikipedia. That said I clicked on both links and the same logo came up on both pages, you might try clearing your cache and see if that fixes the problem for you. GB fan (talk) 14:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem solved! Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koponyanyimonyok (talkcontribs) 14:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Cunard Ships

    The RMS Franconia is listed as being sunk in WW 1. In May 1953, I sailed on the RMS FRanconia from Quebec City Canada to Liverpool UK. Is it possible that there was 2 ships named RMS Franconia, of that the sinking of the Franconia is incorrect? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.226.75.196 (talk) 14:38, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    There are 3 articles on the RMS Franconia. RMS Franconia (1910) sunk during WWI, RMS Franconia (1922) built in 1922 probably the one you were on and RMS Franconia originally named RMS Ivernia and renamed to RMS Franconia in 1963. We probably need a disambiguation page or at least some hatnotes on the articles. GB fan (talk) 14:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I have replaced the redirect that was at RMS Franconia with a dab page. The redirect originally went to RMS Ivernia, but it does not appear to be the primary topic since it is a redirect. GB fan (talk) 14:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I've also added hatnotes to the pages.--ObsidinSoul 15:27, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. There were three apparently. See RMS Franconia (1922) and RMS Ivernia.--ObsidinSoul 14:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I've tweaked the shipindex page so that all three Franconia's have a link. Mjroots (talk) 15:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Looking for input

    Hi there, I’m a new Wikipedian looking for some advice on a revision to the Peabody Energy article’s History and Modern era sections. I’m somewhat familiar with the company’s history and believe the new content I’m proposing would make the section more comprehensive, up-to-date, and address some citation issues as well. Technically speaking, I am aware of how to implement these proposed revisions into the article. However, I have past experience in the energy industry and having read through the Wikipedia guidelines on conflict of interest I wanted to get a second opinion on this update that I’ve proposed. Anyways, I would really appreciate any feedback on my revised draft, which I have posted to a sandbox on my user page. Note that I also inquired about this on the article Talk page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Peabody_Energy#Proposed_revisions_to_history_and_recent_developments_section about a week ago, but seems that it isn’t active enough to generate any response. That is why I came here, thanks for your time! JamesClyde (talk) 17:02, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks very good to me. :) As long as the info is worded neutrally and properly referenced you should be fine. No need to ask permission, be bold.--ObsidinSoul 05:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for looking this over and providing feedback, it is greatly appreciated. I will implement the revisions after reviewing the material one more time. JamesClyde (talk) 18:22, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Badly formatted AfD entry

    Could somebody have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2011 April 15#The Hills Have Eyes (Miscellany)? It seems to be poorly formatted. I would reformat it myself, but don't have the time right now. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I assume this has been fixed. The AFD log page looks ok to me. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Text removal question

    I deleted the following text from this page: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_(charity)Functions>

    "Though well intentioned, most consider Brake's policies to be ill thought out and somewhat extreme. They have often been refered to as the anti-motoring Taliban, due to their extreme views and resolute dismisal of other view points without discussion."

    because it is an opinion and not attributed.

    I thought that Wikipedia wasn't intended to be simply a place for people to express their views. I am neither connected to, nor a supporter of, the Brake charity.

    User crosstemplejay immediately reverted the deletion saying "The text represent neutrality bringing in the views of other concerning the charity". The user says he/she is a member of the Welcoming committee but is not listed on <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Welcoming_committee/members> not the its archive.

    Have I missed something?

    Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IvanBurton (talkcontribs) 18:39, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    You're absolutely correct. I've removed the material and asked Crosstemplejay about the issue on his talk page. TNXMan 18:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Subject Box

    I was trying to add the status of Windseekers construction on the page but would never show. Whats wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom497 (talkcontribs) 21:08, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    You can't just add stuff that isn't in the template. There is no input value called "status" CTJF83 21:11, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    etown radio program article - not an advertisement - rewritten in more neutral tone

    Why is there still an "written like an advertisement" flag on our article after many edits have been made?

    The article I am referring to is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETown_%28radio_program%29

    Is there anyway to have this removed? I am an official representative of this organization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zradio (talkcontribs) 22:23, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Being connected to the subject, you are the least qualified person to judge the article for its neutrality (for a more in-depth explanation why, please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest). That flag is a maintenance tag, it is intended for an uninvolved editor, not for the original creator. While you can edit the article to fix the issues, please leave it for another uninvolved editor to judge if the article has been rewritten to be more neutral and not promotional.
    I have checked, and it still has issues. Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view for guidelines on how to comply to the tag. Everything must be written in an unbiased (even clinically distant), encyclopedic manner. Avoid subjective descriptions like "He was also astounded by the region's noticeable environmental degradation due to lack of community control."
    Below are some other problem words/phrases in that article from quick perusal. They are not neutral and self-aggrandizing. They should be reworded or removed.
    • The multi-talented eTown house band, the Etones , add an exciting musical dynamic to the program.
    • around a love of live music, intelligent conversation, and an appreciation of shared values.
    • several hundred legendary and emerging musicians
    etc.
    For now, the biggest problem in that article is the lack of references. References are extremely important for verifiability and for proving notability, failure to meet those policies means it can be deleted at any time. Please reference all the information in the article from third-party reliable sources ASAP.--ObsidinSoul 05:12, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I am also worried that you see it as "our article", you do not own it. See WP:OWN Arjayay (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    corrigated steel homes

    I read an article about steel corrugated homes being built in Northern Canada, but now cannot find the info on it. Can you help!! Colleen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.250.66.239 (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Was the article here? Or on some other site? Dismas|(talk) 02:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You can look at Corrugated galvanised iron and serach through What links here. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    April 16

    Firefox 4 losing menu and tabs

    Since I upgraded to Firefox 4 the other day, when I revert a vandal and it brings up their page for a warning (using Twinkle), Firefox loses the menu, the tabs, and the URL address line shows that and nothing more. After I warn the vandal, Firefox stays that way until I restart it or get back to the original page. Is there a way to fix this? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:29, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    If this is still a problem for you, I suggest that you report it at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 16:24, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Search by article class?

    Using the Wikipedia search engine, how can I restrict search results to a select class of articles, such as only those that have achieved featured article status?

    I understand articles are categorized by class (like Category:FA-Class articles), but I have trouble exploiting this with the search engine. The incategory: parameter does not search subcategories, so results only include (a scant few) articles that are not further categorized. Manually clicking through the subcategories is unhelpful, because I am trying to search the text, not the topic, of articles.

    What is the correct technique? —Cheng  04:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    There are currently only around 11k good articles and 3k featured articles out of ~3.5 million articles on Wikipedia. Searching within such a small number of articles would make it far more likely that you get zero results every time.
    But yeah, I can see how this might be useful in certain cases. The closest thing I can figure out is to do an Advanced Search, deselect all categories except "Talk", then search with the string "Featured article" + your keyword. :S--ObsidinSoul 14:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    That is close, except then my keyword search is limited to the talk page instead of the article. Any other ideas? —Cheng  01:36, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Page Backgrounds

    On several Wikipedia pages the blueish background is gone and replaced with a white background. One of the pages even reverted back to the very early days of Wikipedia, back when tabs and navigation boxes were non-existent. I'm using Google Chrome on Windows 7. Is this something related to the computer or is Wikipedia doing something strange? Sumsum2010·T·C 04:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It sounds like something isn't loading properly. Try to clear your entire cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    How to transfer a watchlist from one user account to another user account

    Hi, if you have a certain user account with a certain watchlist, and you create another second different user account, is there any automatic way of transferring or copying the watchlist from your first user account to your second new user account?

    Thanks!!!

    --Faus (talk) 06:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I've never done it. Never even thought of using it like this. But I think if you go to your watchlist for User A and then click "edit raw watchlist", you can copy and paste the contents of that list into User B. Dismas|(talk) 06:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, Special:Watchlist/raw is the way to do it. Warning: Edits there cannot be reverted and former content cannot be seen. Only save if you are sure. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:36, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You could paste the content in your watchlist to a text file if you don't want to loose it while experimenting. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Auto-signature

    how do you set it to auto-sign your signature?rm2dance (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]

    As far as I am aware, there is no way to do this (someone else please correct me if I'm wrong). To sign your posts, either click the signature and timestamp icon on the menu at the top of the editing window (should be the 4th icon along from the left), or simply type four tildes (~~~~) after your comment. Orphan Wiki 09:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    ......surely they must. Wikipedia has been on the Web since forever.rm2dance (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]
    See this link. Bear in mind the icon has now changed to a pencil icon (as mentioned above). Orphan Wiki 09:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    As it is you are signing incorrectly - use four tildes to include a timestamp. Roger (talk) 12:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia is a wiki where you can edit existing text, and not all edits should be signed. It would be possible to make some criteria where a signature is automatically added but I prefer to control it myself. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe User:SineBot could be reconfigured to produce your full signature automatically instead of reminding you that you forgot it? Just an idea, I don't know if this would be possible or even warranted. But if there were a community wide discussion and consensus to implement such a change, why not? Just an idea. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:38, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    There has been discussion on this, but we will have updated software for discussion pages Coming Real Soon™.

    A TOPIC ABOUT A SMALL TOWN NOT IN WIKIPEDIA

    I would like to write about my home town in kenya that is not in wikipedia.Kindly inform me which process should i take. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chukura (talkcontribs) 08:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Chukura, and welcome to Wikipedia. I have left a message on your talk page which gives some helpful pointers about writing and developing new articles. You may want to start writing it in a an area of your own userspace (e.g. User:Chukura/Sandbox) first, so you can take your time to make it good before releasing it as a proper article. All the best, Orphan Wiki 09:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) First I would recommend you to read Wikipedia:Starting an article. Make sure it is not against WP:WWIN; and make sure it won't be speedy deleted. Make sure it is a notable town and add reliable sources (and not original research. Do not copy-and-paste copyrighted text. For a beginner it is useful to add the article Articles for Creation. I think I wrote the most important things to write a good articles. Regards and happy editing.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 10:01, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Take a look at the Swahili Wikipedia - there may be an article there that might have useful material (if you understand the language of course). Also look at WikiProject Kenya. Roger (talk) 11:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Entries missing

    Why can't I see [7]? Kittybrewster 13:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, but if you mean why you can't see High_Sheriff_of_Surrey#References, the references are hidden inside a collapsible table. You have to click 'Show' in order to see them. Is this what you want to know? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:01, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    No. I cant see who was HS in 1726. Kittybrewster 14:02, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

     Working ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

     Fixed Looks like the raw link for the 1732 entry breaks {{Columns-list}}. I converted it to a ref. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you Kittybrewster 14:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing Question

    Hi,

    I am trying to include a reference for this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Freiherr_von_Eichendorff) but I am still getting an error message despite having created a reference list and there now being a reference in the right place. Please could someone tell me what I have done wrong?

    Thank you in advance! David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudey cool240 (talkcontribs) 14:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. I have fixed it here by removing the same reference you added after the {{Reflist}} template. You only ever need to define a reference once in the body of the article itself. They will automatically be listed where you placed the {{Reflist}}, so there is no need to place it under ==References== again.--ObsidinSoul 14:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    A bio does not mention derogatory information

    Reading an article regarding Frances Newton (a murderer) stated that her attorney, Ron Mock, was incompetent and had received several citations for professional misconduct. Mock`s own article is a glowing review of his career and his Christian achievements with just the slightest reference to his legal past and no reference to any controversy. There are no negative statements in his bio at all. I`m a grammar/spelling editor usually, but this article anomaly has really annoyed me. Can I just insert such a controversial passage into a self-serving, totally positive bio? (there are references in the Newton article). The Mock article would seem to have been written by Mock or an associate. Could my addition be removed by them without moderation? How should it be inserted? Under a `Controversy` heading? Your advice would be appreciated. Yameogo (talk) 14:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Go for it. Kittybrewster 14:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Is it the right Ron Mock? No mention was made that he practised law in Texas. Jarkeld (talk) 14:54, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    At this point I have removed the negative information about Mock from the article on Newton. He is mentioned in 2 of the sources listed, 1 just said that he was later barred from capital cases, doesn't explain why or if it had anything to do with this case. The other was from an ant-death penalty advocacy group, I don't believe the source is sufficiently reliable to present the negative info about a living person. GB fan (talk) 15:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think he's the same person. From the (inappropriately included) resume of Ron Mock, he's from Michigan, spent most of his life/career there apparently, and isn't a practicing lawyer for a good long time. Ron Mock, if I get it correctly is a public defender in the state of Texas (he was recently suspended in 2004 by the state of Texas, something a professor in Detroit simply can not be subjected to).--ObsidinSoul 15:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thankyou all. I`m glad I brought this issue here before doing something stupid. Back to grammar/spelling editing for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yameogo (talkcontribs) 15:13, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Cheers Yameogo (talk) 15:15, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    MA HE Teaching

    i want to know that after "MA HE Teaching" whether i should be eligible for QTS IN UK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.154.44.83 (talk) 16:11, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:16, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    debugger

    today;when i download a game after installatoin it shows me that the game can't run in an active debugger in memory.what should i do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.176.207.138 (talk) 16:45, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. If you do ask there, you should give lots more detail about the game and your computer and operating system. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Non-disambiguating hatnote

    I would like clarification on a specific hatnote being used on The Other Side of Time. Currently, a {{distinguish2}} hatnote is being used to forward anyone searching for a science-fiction book of the same title to the author's page. I read the entire WP:HATNOTE and searched through both the respective talk page and its archives, and nowhere can I find this example mentioned, so my problem is this: there is no specific article on the book The Other Side of Time, which is an important factor to me, and I'll mention why in a moment. The author's article, on the other hand, mentions the book only twice in passing (1. a confusing sentence about the Land of Oz—or the author's brother—being mentioned in The Other Side of Time; 2. as an example of time-travel) and three times in a list of publications. In other words, I don't see any substantial information on the book.

    Now, the following example is what I'm drawing from, and it's a little more difficult to explain because only admins can see the now-deleted page (see [8] for the public log). In January 2011, I created a disambiguation page at What the Hell (deleted to make way for an article that currently resides there). Each item on the dab page linked to an appropriate article, but there was one item with a fault that greatly resembles this hatnote. From what I recall, the page had the following:

    As you can see, there was no article—and there still isn't—for the song "What the Hell" by Terri Walker. The only link was to the album article, which only lists the song in its track listing section. I obviously created a rather pointless disambiguation page, and I soon realized it. I brought it up for quick discussion at the Help Desk, and the dab page was soon deleted.

    Pulling from this very example—there isn't sufficient information that is being linked to—I removed the hatnote from The Other Side of Time and left a note on Hullaballoo Wolfowitz's talk page explaining why I didn't think the hatnote belonged. Hullaballoo, naturally, argued why he thought it did. Except for the part about the book's notability vs. the album's notability, I don't find his argument completely flawed. But I believe this is a simple case of gray area, and I am more or less willing to make a compromise by asking him if the {{distinguish2}} (which reads: "Not to be confused with...") could be changed to {{about}} ("This article is about Mary Fahl's album. For the science-fiction novel, see Keith Laumer").

    But before I do so, am I wrong in thinking the hatnote should not even be there? – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 17:32, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The hatnote on The Other Side of Time is appropriate. The could also be a hatnote on "What the Hell" linking to L.O.V.E (album). olderwiser 22:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Adelbert Ames Jr, Opthamologist, in Hanover, NH

    When I was a student at Dartmouth college ('49-53') I worked for a while with Adelbert Ames, Jr., who was working beyond his famous "Ames Room". He was intrigued with the mobiles (ala Calder) I was making and wondered if I woulld like to try to incorporate some of his visual effects into my mobiles. Alas, my imagination didn't extend that far.

    At the time he had fabricated a flat steel trapezoidal "window" which when mounted vertically and revolved on a vertical rod, appeared not to revolve but to swing back and forth. This particular invention of his has not, to my knowlege, been mentioned in the literature about his inventive work.

    He was also doing work for a large automobile manufacturer, analyzing the optical properties of the the coming "wrap-around" windows, with a view to discovering if they posed eny hazard for the driver looking through the sharply curved ends of the windshield.

    He was a lovely person and a gentleman.

    By Rodger Ewy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.77.237 (talk) 18:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have a question on how to use Wikipedia? CTJF83 19:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you're referring to the Ames window. You're very welcome to improve that article if you can, but be aware that information posted in Wikipedia must come from published references, not from personal knowledge. --ColinFine (talk) 21:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Help formatting a list

    Resolved

    I have rearranged the list of NASA medals into their order of precedence and added a citation -- but I can't figure out how to move the medals that fall under the same number one space to the left so they line up with the top numbered medal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, RadioBroadcast (talk) 19:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I tried a few different tricks, and I can't seem to get it either. My guess is that you;ll have to use a table to line everything up. E.G.,
    Number Ribbon Title
    1. Congressional Space Medal of Honor (astronauts only)
    2. Distinguished Service Medal
    - Distinguished Public Service Medal
    3. Outstanding Leadership Medal
    And so on for the rest. Dunno if that helps at all. Avicennasis @ 21:55, 12 Nisan 5771 / 16 April 2011 (UTC)
    Thanks I will try that out! RadioBroadcast (talk) 22:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    When handling lists in Wikipedia, use the appropriate Wiki markup. In short, bulleted items are prefixed with asterisks ( * ) and numbered items likewise with number signs ( # ). List items can also be formatted to exclude both the bullet and the number using the {{Unbulleted list}} template.

    By default, each of these three lists will be indented differently.

    The Manual of Style discourages using tables in place of simple lists.

    Step one

    This is the syntax for a numbered list:

    # [[Image:CongSpaceRib.gif|80px]] [[Congressional Space Medal of Honor]] (astronauts only)
    # [[Image:NasaDisRib.gif|80px]] [[NASA Distinguished Service Medal|Distinguished Service Medal]]
    

    which renders:

    Step two

    Two problems appear if we simply eliminate the number sign from the third item:

    # [[Image:CongSpaceRib.gif|80px]] [[Congressional Space Medal of Honor]] (astronauts only)
    # [[Image:NasaDisRib.gif|80px]] [[NASA Distinguished Service Medal|Distinguished Service Medal]]
      [[File:NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal.gif|80px]] [[NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal|Distinguished Public Service Medal]]
    # [[File:NASA Outstanding Leadership Ribbon.png|80px]] [[NASA Outstanding Leadership Medal|Outstanding Leadership Medal]]
    

    renders:

    First, the unnumbered item is not indented like the others. Second, the numbering resets by the fourth item. Wiki markup terminates the previous list and begins a new list whenever the source code contains more than one line break between list items. The two line breaks between "Distinguished Service Medal" and "Outstanding Leadership Medal" causes the list to restart at "1." instead of continuing with "3."

    Step three:

    To get around this, we need to resort to a hack. We have to replace the line break between "Distinguished Service Medal" and "Distinguished Public Service Medal" with the HTML tag <br/>. As far as the Wiki markup for lists is concerned, the <br/> tag does not count as a line break in the source code even if it displays a line break in the actual article. For this hack to work, we need to remove the line breaks immediately before and after the <br/> tag:

    # [[Image:CongSpaceRib.gif|80px]] [[Congressional Space Medal of Honor]] (astronauts only)
    # [[Image:NasaDisRib.gif|80px]] [[NASA Distinguished Service Medal|Distinguished Service Medal]]<br/>[[File:NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal.gif|80px]] [[NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal|Distinguished Public Service Medal]]
    # [[File:NASA Outstanding Leadership Ribbon.png|80px]] [[NASA Outstanding Leadership Medal|Outstanding Leadership Medal]]
    

    renders:

    which is what we wanted.

    I realize I could have given you the answer without the tutorial, but understanding how the code works makes it a lot less intimidating. Hope that helps! —Cheng  23:00, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I had considered that, however (at least on my screen) There is no horizontal space between 2 and 2a, as there is between 1/2 and 2a/3, so it still looks a little out of step to me, albeit in different dimension. Avicennasis @ 23:38, 12 Nisan 5771 / 16 April 2011 (UTC)

    To insert horizontal spaces, forget the <br/>. Just bracket each list item in <p></p> tags:

    # <p>[[Image:CongSpaceRib.gif|80px]] [[Congressional Space Medal of Honor]] (astronauts only)</p>
    # <p>[[Image:NasaDisRib.gif|80px]] [[NASA Distinguished Service Medal|Distinguished Service Medal]]</p><p>[[File:NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal.gif|80px]] [[NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal|Distinguished Public Service Medal]]</p>
    # <p>[[File:NASA Outstanding Leadership Ribbon.png|80px]] [[NASA Outstanding Leadership Medal|Outstanding Leadership Medal]]</p>
    # <p>[[File:NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Ribbon.png|80px]] [[NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal|Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal]]</p>
    

    This renders:

    Problem solved. —Cheng  00:15, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Fantastic! Thank you so much, Cheng (also Avic)! You are the best!
    RadioBroadcast (talk) 00:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Present day facts about Co Durham, England

    I have found that several of your sites are now out of date with regards to the geographical and county adminsitration of this county. I believe there are people in government who use your sites for information which they wish to use to help them make decisions. These decisions are being based on incorrect out of date information and as such cause serious problems for this county and its people.

    Since 1974 County Durham has been a reduced county in both size and administration. Just because Darlington is still classed as part of Co Durham geographically it is NOT part of it administratively. Other highly urbanised areas are no longer part of Co Durham geographically or administratively, ie South Tyneside, Gateshead, Sunderland, Teesside, so I think it is about time someone checked my facts, and amended the site. It is becoming like the out of date satnav, relied on by users but often inaccurate because the changes have not been amended.

    What you have on the site is now history, not modern fact. Please amend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.128.46 (talk) 21:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is the free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit - including you, me, and millions of other volunteers. If you find ways in which it can be improved, you are welcome - indeed, encouraged - to improve it. If you are unable or unwilling to do so, it is a good idea to draw other people's attention to the problem by adding a suitable maintenance template to the article, or by posting on the article's talk page, or a relevant Wikiproject, or on the help desk, as you have done.
    But please don't demand in that peremptory tone that somebody fix it. Anybody using information from Wikipedia for anything important should be checking the data (from the references that ought to be there in every article (sometimes they are missing, it's true). It is their responsibility to check their facts, not a load of anonymous people on the internet (which is actually what Wikipedia editors are, if you think about it). --ColinFine (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Rebuttal to Feigned Biography of Joseph Smith

    Dear Wikipedia Representative,

    On your Wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Mormon , I believe there is need for a counter-reference. Whomever entered the so-called biographical entry of Joseph Smith by Fawn Brodie, has done so I believe, in ignorance of the poor documentation and story-telling method of Ms. Brodie's works.

    However, rather than attempt to remove the reference to Ms. Brodie's book: Fawn M. Brodie (1971). ISBN 0-394-46967-4. ed. No Man Knows My History. Alfred A. Knopf., I would instead ADD the rebuttal to her biography written by scholar and historian, Hugh W. Nibley, who is also the founder of the FARMS (Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies) organization.

    No, Ma'am, That's Not History, Hugh W. Nibley, A Brief Review of Mrs. Brodie's Reluctant Vindication of a Prophet She Seeks to Expose. Reprinted by permission from Tinkling Cymbals and Sounding Brass, volume 11 in The Collected Works of Hugh Nibley (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book and FARMS, 1991), 3—52. This reference and online book may be found at: http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/transcripts/?id=47 .

    I have found in the past, when a discrepancy was addressed, Wikipedia made a correction almost immediately. Thank you for your consideration on this matter as well.

    Signed: A member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoenix80110 (talkcontribs) 23:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    "Wikipedia" doesn't make corrections: it doesn't work that way. Articles are edited by editors - you and me and millions of others. On a quick look, it does appear that there should be some reference to Nibley's rebuttal in the page (but your use of loaded words "feigned" and "so-called" make me think that you may not be the most appropriate person to add such). I suggest you bring this up on the article's talk page. I did a quick search of the archives of that talk page, and there are a couple of references to Nibley there, but not apparently of the point you are making, so it would be worth discussing.--ColinFine (talk) 10:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Recover data from compromised account?

    I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, but I haven't found any guidance in the FAQs.

    my previous user name / password strings are being rejected, though I've got the same settings as previously and I cut&paste the login strings. So I requested a new password, but nothing is arriving at my email address as it should. I'm wondering (1) if that account has been hijacked? and (2) Is it possible to move that user account, and all the edits of wikipedia articles I made under it to this new one? I did look at the instructions for moving pages, but I'm not clear on the process and don't want to lose anything in the process. since I'm worried that the previous account has been hijacked, I'm not naming it here unless someone tells me that this wouldn't cause more problems. thanks Redovno (talk) 23:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Edits cannot be reassigned to another account. Accounts can be renamed in some circumstances but it would not help you gain access to it. Many users have problems receiving mail from Wikipedia. Try checking spam folders, also at your mail provider if possible. Accounts are free and easy to make, and give no extra access unless they are admin accounts, so I don't think people generally bother to try hijacking non-admin accounts. I don't see a problem in posting the name here. If you don't know a working password and cannot receive password mails then you will have to abandon the account. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks, very helpful! I've also figured out the problem. I'm embarrassed to say it involved a long-ago updated password which I'd saved in the wrong place and just now rediscovered, and a misremembered stored email address. So there's been no hijacking. case closed. live and learn Mahnut 00:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahnut (talkcontribs)

    April 17

    Changing the row height in tables

    (1) I have searched the FAQ but could not find any assistance. My intent is to specify the height of rows in a multi-column multi-row table with colspan and rowspan. My test template is below. What I want is for the rows between the suits (and not others) to be slightly less than currently rendered and match that shown in the upper left quadrant. Ideally, I want to be able to make those rows less tall as well. Could not find any references or example in other articles. (2) Is there a way to put a simple line box around the outside perimeter of the table? Everything I have tried puts boxes around all cells. See {{BridgeHand}} created by others. I am trying (a) to make the template more pleasing to the eye and (b) to add more information on the outer quadrants.
    Thanks. Newwhist (talk) 01:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Template:BridgeHandTest2

    How do you bring up the editing toolbar?

    When I went to go edit a userspace page, there wasnt a toolbar that gave me to ability to make a table like there was before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evilhamster9696 (talkcontribs) 02:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    If you are using the default vector skin and are in the edit window there is a drop down menu called advanced in the top row. Hit the arrow to expand the menu and inserting a table is the second from the right. Was that what you were looking for? You can also see Help:Table for more information on manually inserting and formatting tables. --D•g Talk to me/What I've done

    How can I find out which "Good Article" I edited?

    I saw on the bottom of my userpage this morning that I am in the category "Good Article Contributors". I have edited 789 different articles, obviously at least one is now considere "Good" but I have no idea which. Is there any way I can find out quickly? I might like to add a userbox that boasts about it, although I'm sure my contribution was absoloutely minimal. --Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 07:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


    That category results from the {{User playread}} userbox on your user page. I have no idea why it sets it. —teb728 t c 11:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    (e/c) There was a problem with User:UBX/User playread, which I have just fixed. Everyone using this user box was in that category! I'm not sure how to find out which good articles you have really contributed to. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


    You can view a list of Good artcicles here.Jamietw (talk) 11:26, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Book tool

    I really like the Create Book tool. I created a book an had it printed by Pedia Press. My colleagues were very impressed by this.I think it would be really useful to be able t create ebooks from Wikipedia articles and share them with colleagues an the wider community. However, to be able to do this it seems I have to make 10 contributions to Wikipedia. I don't understand why this has to be the case. Gathering together articles to make an ebook to share with others could be a contribution t the Wiipedia community. I don't feel I have the knowledge to contribute to any articles. Possibly if I was given a specific set of reference tasks I could do that. I think my skill is in bringing information and people together. I work as a librarian so that is what I do. How could I try to get the policy on creating and sharing ebooks modified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.170.83 (talk) 07:57, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Replied on the New User desk. Please do not post on multiple desks. --ColinFine (talk) 10:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Three things I like to discuss

    1. In the article about Canadian English there should be a section for Dialect in Northern Canada which is Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut. 2. In the tv series The_No._1_Ladies'_Detective_Agency_(TV_series) BK is a single gay man. Here's proof: http://www.bbc.co.uk/ladies/characters/bk.shtml I think The_No._1_Ladies'_Detective_Agency_(TV_series) should be listed under List_of_dramatic_television_series_with_LGBT_characters. 3. A while ago, I wrote an article about a novel called More Than Weird by English author Martyn_Godfrey but it was deleted. Would it be ok to write the article again? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 08:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    1. If you think there should be a section, go ahead and create it; or if you can't do it yourself, or if you think it might be controversial, start a discussion on the talk page.
    2. The list says it is of "prominent characters". If you think that BK is prominent, add him - with the reference you gave. (I do not know whether he is or not: I've never seen the series).
    3. The deletion discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/More than Weird, and shows that the article was deleted because the book did not meet the criteria for notability for books. If that has changed - if it has won an award, say, or if it has been significantly written about in a reliable source, then by all means write the article again. If not, then don't waste your effort.
    By the way, it is easier for repliers and readers if you don't combine several unrelated issues in the same question.--ColinFine (talk) 10:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I have created a new article. My Username is in the URL. Can someone please remove "User:Wellingtonia/" from the address bar? Or tell me how I can do it? The address should be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballarat_Star --Wellingtonia (talk) 09:58, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I see User:Dismas has already moved it. For future reference, the way to change the name of an aarticle is to move it. Looks like a good article to me. Well done. --ColinFine (talk) 10:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I've moved the page for you as was mentioned in the previous comment. I've also fixed a few of the more glaring format problems with the article. It still needs work, such as wikilinks to other articles, but otherwise it looks like a good article. Dismas|(talk) 10:26, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    So grateful to you Dismas. I will link to Ballarat (as a place) and to Trove. Had to create the page for NLA digitisation for the first 10 yrs of The Ballarat Star, a project initiated by the Ballarat & District Genealogical Society. I was totally oblivious to the other formatting problems. Thank you. It was my first effort so I do appreciate the kind comment from ColinFine. Seeing I have your attention - I have a list of Ballarat newspapers and don't know where to put it. Maybe break into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Australia#Regional_newspapers_2--Wellingtonia (talk) 11:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Featured Article and Image

    Hello! I'm a Khmer Wikipedia user. I want to create a featured article and photo templates. but i don't know how at all. Can you show me? Thank you!

    Sovichet (talk) 11:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This [9] will help you get started and this [10] gives you some criteria of featured articles. Zlqq2144 (talk) 14:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Former US Presidents

    I'm editing New Baptist Covenant where there are repeated refernces to former presidents Carter and Clinton. What is the WP protocal as to the proper titles for them; President, Former President, Ex-President, etc. I wouldn't use it repeatedly just enough to make the point of respect for their current position. Currently there is an immediate shift into just ...Carter....or Clinton. Even a Mr Carter might do the trick! Buster Seven Talk 13:06, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The WP protocol is here - after the first mention, it is standard to refer to a person by surname only. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    For more than a week I have been suffering from pains in my knee and calf, making it very difficult for me to walk. For the last 3 days I have been rubbing my calf and knee with my urine. The pain is releived immediately and I am able to walk normally. I am very shocked and don't know what the urine is doing. Is there some explanation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.169.97 (talk) 14:21, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This is wikipedia, an encyclopedia. Sorry but we do not give out medical advice and you should seek a doctor if you feel that the situation is bad enough. Zlqq2144 (talk) 14:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I suggest the OP looks up Urine therapy. Kittybrewster 17:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Where can I request comment from other editors on my actions in a particular case

    I nominated Companies listed on the Singapore Exchange for AfD (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Companies listed on the Singapore Exchange). The discussion there lets me question my own arguments a bit. Is there a way to receive a neutral feedback on the arguments I have given there and whether they are appropriate or not? This is not meant as an approach to win consensus for my arguments, but simply for me to know if my arguments are meaningful or if they are complete nonsense. I would appreciate any pointers to a place where I can receive such a feedback. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    uninstall old windows live messanger

    I have installed a new windows live messanger service(which I really like,i want to uninstall the old service can you tell me how to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.224.149 (talk) 15:03, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    You have come to the wrong place, your question is suitable for the reference desk WP:RD. This is the place for questions on how to use the wiki. Zlqq2144 (talk) 15:07, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Watch pages I delete by default

    I have the setting to watch pages I edit, create and move (source and target) by default. However there does not appear to be such a setting for pages that I delete - is there one I'm overlooking somewhere or is this not presently possible? Thryduulf (talk) 15:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    If you've deleted the page, there's presumably not much to watch? - David Biddulph (talk) 15:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I have several pages which have been deleted on my watchlist simply because I want to know if anyone recreates them. Dismas|(talk) 16:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    For me, Special:Preferences#preftab-5 has a checkbox with "Add pages I delete to my watchlist". Does it not for you? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes it does. How did I miss that? Thryduulf (talk) 18:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Disasters

    Can someone point me in the direction of the naming convention on natural disasters or disasters in general? Simply south...... trying to improve for 5 years 16:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events) and Wikipedia:WikiProject Disaster management#Naming convention. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Can an editor use a map they have created and uploaded to the commons for an article they are involved in editing

    Map in question on the right thumb|Palestinian territories controlled by Israel under the 1949 Armistice Agreements

    Can this file be used for a Google Earth Overlay linked into the article? talknic (talk) 17:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Content of articles is dependent on a consensus of editors. I can't imagine your getting a consensus to use that map. —teb728 t c 19:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    the phi gamma delta or fiji page

    Hi, I am in the fraternity of phi gamma delta and we only display our greek letters in certain places, as your article about us says. This does not include websites and it is on your so all of phi gamma delta would greatly apreciate it if you took down our greek letters. Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.254.162.83 (talk) 20:14, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    No, this won't be done for you. To quote from Wikipedia is not censored, "Nor will Wikipedia remove content because the internal bylaws of some organizations forbid that information to be displayed online. Any rules that forbid members of a given organization, fraternity, or religion to show a name or image do not apply to Wikipedia because Wikipedia is not a member of those organizations." -- John of Reading (talk) 20:20, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Ideas

    Where can I post ideas to improve Wikipedia? Toontown59153 (talk) 21:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]