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January 15

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters
  • A fuel freighter, the Doola No. 3, explodes near the South Korean port city of Incheon, killing at least three crew members. (CNN) (Los Angeles Times) (MSNBC)
  • Three trapped survivors are rescued from the capsized cruise ship Costa Concordia, over 24 hours after it ran aground off the coast of Italy. Two corpses are also found, bringing the known death toll of the incident to five. (BBC)

International relations

Politics and elections

Science

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Television

The 33rd edition of the event concludes today. - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 09:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


January 14

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters

International relations

Politics and elections

Transportation

2012 Basra bombing

Article: 2012 Basra bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A suicide bombing targeting Shiite pilgrims kills 50 and wounds over 100 in Basra, Iraq. (Post)
Nominator's comments: At least 50 people were killed in the attack. -EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 13:18, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Marmara blackout of 2012

Article: Marmara blackout of 2012 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Parts of Marmara region suffered a power outage including including parts of Istanbul and Kocaeli provinces of Turkey. (Post)
News source(s): "İstanbul'da metro ve tramvay ulaşımı durdu". Hürriyet (in Turkish). Retrieved 14 January 2012., "Istanbul blackout leaves millions in dark - CNN.com". CNN. Retrieved 14 January 2012.
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Similar to Northeast blackout of 2003 Turkey just lost power in significant part of the country in most of Marmara region and many provinces of Istanbul and Kocaeli where vast majority of Turkish industry is located. I posted it here before the media so it may take time for the media to catch on or power lines to be fixed making the event less significant. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 13:10, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

[Pending update] Republic of China Election 2012

Articles: Republic of China presidential election,_2012 (talk · history · tag) and Republic of China legislative election, 2012 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Ma Ying-jeou is re-elected President in the Republic of China (Taiwan), and the Kuomintang is re-elected as the majority party in the Legislative Yuan. (Post)
News source(s): Taipei Times
Credits:
Nominator's comments: This should be a no brainer, as with most national elections. Once the results come out (which is today the 14th) both president-elect and the new Parliament will be determined. Please note that the results are being tallied right now on the 14th so that the headline should be made today when the results are confirmed. --Yong (talk) 08:00, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As I said in the comments, the election was held today and results will come out later today, so I don't see the point of not suggesting it as part of the proper procedure to get it posted. Surely this might not have to be suggested to be posted but if this can be a friendly reminder then why not. --Yong (talk) 14:40, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Important note: Per the policy WP:NC-TW, the name we use when referring to the legislative council is Legislative Yuan of the Republic of China. The title of the re-elected president (Ma Ying-jeou) is President of the Republic of China. The incumbent party is known as Kuomintang of China or Chinese Nationalist Party. JimSukwutput 13:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've modified the blurb according to this policy and to include the election results. While the counting is not 100% over, the winners have already been declared (but we still need to wait for the full results before posting). JimSukwutput 13:30, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for my obviously POV bias, but it was intended to be a rough start for the blurb. Thanks for any modifications and updates. From the preliminary results it is less unlikely that the KMT will achieve a majority this time, though everything will be determined when the results are confirmed. --Yong (talk) 14:40, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that very guideline says that we should use Republic of China (Taiwan) for the state, i.e. with the brackets, but use Republic of China in the president's title. wow this China/Taiwan naming thing is a mess Modest Genius talk 16:30, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, nothing in the blurb refers to the state. "Legislative Yuan of the Republic of China" is an official name for the legislative council. JimSukwutput 16:46, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think a lot of readers are likely to be misled that there have been presidential and parliamentary elections in China, and the bolded article doesn't really work hard to dispel that. --FormerIP (talk) 19:11, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If some readers have misconceptions about the current political status of PRC/ROC, this is a good chance for them to educate themselves on the issue. Yes, there have been elections in China, the Republic of China. JimSukwutput 20:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Actually, the article is missing some prose update regarding the results. There's just the infobox and the result table. Some reactions would be nice to see as well. Otherwise, when you agree on the blurb, I can post. --Tone 19:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Support obviously worthy of posting (although not ITNR as its a disputed territory), but the blurb needs to mention "Taiwan" in it so there isn't confusion that this is an election in China. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:29, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • WP:NC-TW states that for official names such as President and Legislative Yuan, the term "ROC" is used without any reference to Taiwan. If you can find another way to put Taiwan in the blurb for the ignorant masses, fine (maybe we can start referring to the United States as "America"), although the blurb is long enough already. JimSukwutput 20:34, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Fundementally I oppose until the blurb contains the word Taiwan so we can avoid confusing our readers. And therefore there isn't a clear consensus with only one support so removing the [Ready] tag.
      • If you think the blurb is too long then we don't need to spell out "parliament" as "Legislative Yuan of the Republic of China". -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • There is nothing confusing about the blurb. There has been two elections in the Republic of China, and we stated that there were two elections in the Republic of China, as our current policy guidelines demanded. No ambiguity at all. It's true that some readers may have the mistaken belief that the government of Taiwan island is known as Taiwan. That's okay; some people also believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth or that evolutionary theory is fabricated; Wikipedia doesn't pander to their ignorance. JimSukwutput 20:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • No, but it should seek to correct it, and to avoid expressing itself in ways that it knows will be misunderstood. Also, please don't use the word "pander", since this is likely to make people think of Chinese wildlife. --FormerIP (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • Jim, I've spent a lot of time looking at sources about this when getting China re-titled, and its blindingly obvious that the WP:COMMONNAME in English for the Republic of China is "Taiwan". Taiwan is what the country is known as to our readers, and people who aren't experts on greater China will probably assume that the Republic of China refers to the People's Republic.
          • I'm happy for the blurb to contain the words "Republic of China" as that is the current title for the article on the government of Taiwan, but we need to mention Taiwan as well.
          • The KMT article should also probably be linked without "of China" - no need to mention China in the blurb as that is confusing as well and the aritcle is located at Kuomintang. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:56, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose To those who want the blurb to say China, stop playing politics. The common name is Taiwan. I will strike this out and add a Support comment when the word China disappears. HiLo48 (talk) 21:39, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • The word "China" only appears once, in the context of "President of the Republic of China", which is Ma Ying-jeou's constitutional title. "Taiwan" is mentioned as the area of election. Shrigley (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • What politics? Ma Ying-jeou was elected as the President of the Republic of China. It's not politics to state the title of the presidency; it IS politics to arbitrarily change the title of the office into something else based on your personal preferences. Furthermore, WP:NC-TW forbids any mention of the term Taiwan when referring to official names and titles that do not contain the term. If you have problems with the policy, bring it up at its talk page. JimSukwutput 21:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • At this stage the word China appears conspicuously in the blurb, the title of this section, and the name of the linked article. The presence of that name distorts this whole discussion. It certainly fooled me. It will fool others. Those including it are playing politics. It is NOT NPOV. It is promoting Taiwan's international political goals. I cannot possibly support it. HiLo48 (talk) 22:04, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
          • Forgive my frankness, but it's not our problem if you're ignorant or obtuse. Our naming conventions dictate what names we use, and in this case there is no ambiguity whatsoever that we ought to use ROC or ROC-TW in the articles and the blurb (and certainly not the term Taiwan on its own). You seem to have a problem not only with the blurb but with the entire NC-TW policy and the naming conventions that we have been using for years (see the previous election articles). I'm sorry, but consensus rules, and your objection here is out of place. JimSukwutput 22:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
            • I have problems with several Wikipedia policies. My reasons are rational and clearly stated above. If policy allows supporters of Taiwan to play politics here, so be it, but it doesn't mean I will endorse it. China is that huge country on mainland Asia, not this place. I still strongly Oppose. HiLo48 (talk) 22:20, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
              • So you understand that your opposition is with regard to WP:NC-TW, and not this blurb. Yet you still choose to whine and moan here, rather than in the policy's talk page. You know that is disruptive, correct? JimSukwutput 22:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                • No, my position is supported by Wikipedia's policy to use common names (which I can't be bothered looking up the proper name of, but I KNOW you know what I mean.) Using China to describe this country is non-neutral POV. HiLo48 (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                  • WP:COMMONNAME doesn't always apply (it states that we should generally use the most common name); that's why we have WP:NC-TW guidelines to specifically settle disputes about the PRC/ROC naming issue. This is the way it has been done for over 5 years; it makes no sense for us to diverge from it now just because you got "fooled" as a result of your ignorance. JimSukwutput 22:44, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
                    • If anyone gathered a coherent set of evidence about how the Republic of China is named, and managed to get enough non Taiwanese-partisans to participate in the move discussion then Republic of China would move to Taiwan per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:POVTITLE.
                    • It is certainly legitimate for people to be fooled about the Republic of China, it is literally never called that in English. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 00:00, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support posting and saying "Taiwan" and nothing else, because that is of course how mainstream reliable sources are reporting the elections. --Mkativerata (talk) 22:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Again, contrary to Wikipedia policy WP:NC-TW. Comments like this are tiring. It's not that hard to understand this: When there is an existing policy, we follow it. When you have an objection regarding the policy, take it to the policy talk page. Any other objection on any other location is completely worthless and valueless. Simply because you've never heard of the policy before is not a valid reason to object to it in one specific place and expect us to create a huge inconsistency. Please don't waste your time. JimSukwutput 22:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Tone it down a bit there, big fella. I am well aware of NC-TW, having argued against it in the past: [1]. You are downright wrong to call this a policy. NC-TW is not a policy, it is a naming convention -- a guideline -- to which exceptions "may apply". It is a "general rule of thumb", from which we are free to depart. We should do so here, because no-one is reporting this as the "Republic of China" election and we should follow, as always, what the reliable sources say. Have a cup of tea, take a break from your keyboard mashing for a while, and read WP:POLICY. --Mkativerata (talk) 22:40, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • It does not matter whether the name ROC or Taiwan is used more often in mainstream English media. Articles on ITN follow Wikipedia guidelines; how other news organizations report it is none of our business. Sure, you're right that we can "ignore all rules"; so far you've not provided a convincing reason to do so. JimSukwutput 22:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • For reference, here is how ITN dealt with the Republic of China/Taiwan naming issue in the past. Shrigley (talk) 22:36, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment: With one exception, all references to the state (not the island) uses the term Republic of China or Republic of China (Taiwan). Seems like the precedents are pretty clear. JimSukwutput 22:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'm in Australia. I just checked all our major reliable news sources. Every one of them used just Taiwan for this news, and didn't use the word China at all. Oh, except for one. It said "China-friendly leader wins Taiwan re-election". Clearly the name China is simply not used to mean Taiwan here. I don't think Australia is on any particular political or reporting extreme, and it certainly shows where my views come from. So, Wikipedia's or Jim's policies notwithstanding, I'm sticking with total opposition to the word China being mentioned. It's confusing, unhelpful, and political POV pushing HiLo48 (talk) 00:38, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support posting. Neutral on whether "Republic of China" is used, provided that (Taiwan) remains in brackets if it is. Either way, just get on with posting; there's no reason that this debate can't continue once it's up. —WFC23:48, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Even if considered only a Chinese domestic event, this is important news with international implications. Some people here make good points about the naming of Taiwan-related articles. They should join the active debates about this issue at Talk:Republic of China and Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese). But we seem to have worked the blurb so that it doesn't gratuitously mention the formal name of the state ("Republic of China"); so that it does so only once, before which "Taiwan" is mentioned first in order to clarify. Shrigley (talk) 00:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support posting, with names adherent to WP:NC-TW. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 03:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. A major election in one of Asia's leading economies, plus it may be decisive in relations between the ROC and mainland China. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 04:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support and I support using the guidelines per WP:NC-TW. While only guidelines and not policy, they provide a clear reference on this issue that reflect WP consensus presumably. Wikipedia is not a news media outlet and is not required to follow the media in naming Taiwan. (If we didn't have such guidelines I would suggest we follow the media). We are also not required to follow the guidelines WP:NC-TW, but I see no compelling reason not to.--Johnsemlak (talk) 06:53, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support speedy posting. And, please, use common name of Taiwan. The "In the news" section is for a general audience with casual interest, not those interested in Wikiguideline minutiae or refighting 60-year-old wars over China. Per the principle of least astonishment, we shouldn't fool some passersby into thinking China has suddenly started having elections. —  AjaxSmack  07:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Naming shouldn't come up as an issue at ITN. Leave that to a move request. One was recently done at Republic of China and the page wasn't moved. If that's the name of the article, that's the name we should be using here. Let's not set our own naming guidelines, stick to WP:NC-TW. Nightw 09:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously most people commenting here would not have been part of the discussion contributing to the claimed consensus at Republic of China. Ethically I think we have every right to comment on the inappropriate name here. Many have commented on it here. That cannot be ignored. A different consensus can validly arise here. HiLo48 (talk) 09:56, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's different when there's a guideline in place for it. We can't ignore a guideline that a lot of time has gone into (especially for the Main Page). The guideline needs to be changed first. Nightw 09:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Have you looked at that guideline and how it came to be? It's obvious the discussion involved a bunch of people with strong political interest in a perceived local "correctness", with no interest in the global common name. That part of Wikipedia won't change its view no matter what. That means it's a bad policy. I argue that this discussion can develop its own consensus among people with less of an obsession with a century of politics in that region. We really should be using today's globally common name. HiLo48 (talk) 10:08, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's because there are more Taiwanese partisans interested in the guideline than either Chinese partisans or editors who don't have a "side" in cross Taiwan strait relations. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 15:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Posting. The naming now should be neutral enough and in agreement with what we've used before. --Tone 13:23, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I am still missing a prose update. --Tone 13:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Costa Concordia

Article: Costa Concordia (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The cruise ship Costa Concordia, the largest ship built in Italy at the time of her launch, runs aground off the Isola del Giglio and capsizes with the loss of at least three lives. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Ship now showing on webcams as lying on her side. Biggest ship ever built in Italy. Significant maritime loss. File:Costa Concordia.JPG is available to use on main page. --Mjroots (talk) 07:09, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

January 13

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

Kiribati presidential election, 2012

Article: Kiribati presidential election, 2012 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Kiribati President Anote Tong (pictured) wins re-election. (Post)
News source(s): (Radio Australia News)
Credits:
  • Nominated by [[User:{{subst:Scanlan}}|{{subst:Scanlan}}]] ([[User talk:{{subst:Scanlan}}|talk]] · [{{fullurl:User talk:{{subst:Scanlan}}|action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/preload_credit&preloadtitle=ITN+recognition+for+%5B%5BKiribati+presidential+election%2C+2012%5D%5D&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=Kiribati+presidential+election%2C+2012&preloadparams%5b%5d=nominated}} give credit])
  • Updated by Scanlan (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Major event for the country, which might be overlooked by outside media. Public Domain photo of Tong is located on the article's page for posting. --Scanlan (talk) 13:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2012 Winter Youth Olympics

Article: No article specified
Blurb: ​ The first Winter Youth Olympics start in Innsbruck, Austria. (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Seems a notable development in Olympic history. GreyHood Talk 16:10, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Surprisingly how little coverage this event is getting from the mainstream media. Well, as it is the first time for winter youth olympics, I guess we can post. We'll see in years to come how it develops. --Tone 19:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CRYSTAL forbids us from using your philosophy doktorb wordsdeeds 11:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CRYSTAL: pure assumption. Kevin McE (talk) 12:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose For a sports event with the word "Olympic", it has almost no coverage, seems to have barely any minimum level of entry for athletes, and the article is as scarce as it could be for the front page. Not convinced at all by its nomination doktorb wordsdeeds 23:17, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support an official IOC sanctioned olypmic event is newsworthy. I think it's worth noting that the opening of the summer and winter games, as well as the summer and winder paralympic games are already on ITN/R. The article is a good size, and all the links are event specific, such as "Speed skating at the 2012 Winter Youth Olympics" or "Austria at the 2012 Winter Youth Olympics". Also, --76.18.43.253 (talk) 00:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • support - seems notable enough.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Where is the widespread coverage of this? It seems to me this has only gained any level of support because of the Olympic connection. We don't do notability by association elsewhere on this project, so why on ITN? There are two clarifications here that both restrict notability - it is winter sports specifically for youth. That lacks the prestige of the main summer games and as a youth event it isn't a top-line competition. Crispmuncher (talk) 04:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The time of year that it is contested doesn't, but the range of sports covered does. Do you really doubt that there is greater interest in the Summer than winter games? Kevin McE (talk) 12:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No. It is the inclusion of items in the project that needs sourced verification, not the omission. There is nothing in Wikipedia about fact that my garden fence has a damaged panel, but I don't need a media source proving the lack of reportage on the state of my garden fence to justify the fact that it is absent from Wikipedia. Kevin McE (talk) 12:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rauf Denktaş dies

Nominator's comments:
Rauf Denktaş

Death of former presidents are normally notable. Northern Cyprus is only recognized by Turkey. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 20:40, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I was thinking about all article, since most of the biography has no references - or at least no footnotes. Try to improve that as well. Regarding the comments Northery Cyprus is not internationally recognized, we often post events in other unrecognized enthities. --Tone 19:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

January 12

Armed conflicts and attacks

Law and crime

[Posted] Burma-Karen peace talks

Article: Internal conflict in Burma (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Burma, government officials and the Karen National Union agree on a ceasefire to end an internal conflict that began in 1948. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Al Jazeera

It was the lead story on BBC World Service this morning, and NPR too if I remember correctly. BBC, CNN, Associated Press NW (Talk) 14:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I updated the article to reflect on-going news coverage and requests made by editors here. WikifanBe nice 12:42, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Posted --slakrtalk / 00:01, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Frogs

I'd say it's time for some science stories, the world's smallest vertebrae discovered. [2] --Tone 08:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And the stubby article is here as well: Paedophryne amauensis. --Tone 08:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, moderately interesting story, timer's red, and the article is decent enough. There's even an image! The blurb needs to be 'scientists announce' or 'publish', since the discovery itself was in 2009 but we've quite rightly waited for the peer-reviewed paper. Modest Genius talk 10:09, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It's also interesting to note that the previous record holder for the smallest frog, Paedophryne dekot, had been described just a month ago. Plus, there have now been three papers on the genus, each describing two new species, and each being published in an Open Access journal under CC BY. --Mietchen (talk) 10:32, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator and Modest Genius. Currently four of five items in the ITN are about human deaths (#39 in total). The fifth is about alleged sodomy. Time for something positive, and the image is great. --Elekhh (talk) 10:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sodomy not "positive"? Keep your homophobic judgmentalism to yourself, Mister! 97.89.52.45 (talk) 07:40, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Better you keep your misguided preconceptions to yourself: I was referring to the news item about the messy politics of unproven allegations, no intention whatsoever to be judgemental about sexuality. --Elekhh (talk) 08:41, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are other images too. --Mietchen (talk) 10:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. GreyHood Talk 11:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The image is great, frogs symbolically taking over global economy. Hm... :-) Anyway, give me a good blurb and I'm posting. BTW, s there a quick way to protect images on Commons (I'm not an admin there) so that the files do not need to be uploaded here and protected? --Tone 11:29, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is very interesting record that deserves posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Blurb attempt:
Scientists describe new species of frog, Paedophryne amauensis (pictured), that is now the smallest known vertebrate.
Feel free to rephrase as necessary. --Mietchen (talk) 11:50, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Posting. --Tone 12:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

January 11

Armed conflicts and attacks

Law and crime

Politics

Iranian nuclear scientist assassinated

Article: Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan assassinated in a car-bomb explosion, prompting calls in Iran for retaliation against the West. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters, New York Times, AFP

The assassination produced a furious reaction in Iran; the kind of an event that makes some kind of a military blow-up between Iran and the West more likely. Nsk92 (talk) 20:09, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Notable assassination which further deteriorates the already fragile relations between Iran and "the West", especially in light of calls for retaliation from within Iran (although I doubt they will actually retaliate). There has been a series of such assassinations - is there an article on that? May be worthwhile to link the same as well. Chocolate Horlicks (talk) 03:18, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak Oppose Nothing particularly note-worthy. If posted, blurb should be truncated. No need to say "calls in Iran for retaliation against the West." Who are making these calls specifically? What is "the West?" Blurb infers the culprits are the "west" when the only country making that claim is Iran, so far. WikifanBe nice 03:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question Exactly what makes this assassination rather than murder? HiLo48 (talk) 04:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest the word "killed" to avoid this. Prodego talk 04:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
RS say assassination, murder, and killed. Considering the high-profile nature of the person and regional conflict "assassination" fits NPOV. Killed is more reserved for general deaths - i.e, suicide bombings. WikifanBe nice 04:36, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To me it seems that the word 'assassinated' shows that the death is regarded as being intended, but the word 'killed' can mean that the man was just caught in the crossfire. So I think assassinated works better.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 04:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Then so would murdered. Why assassinated? HiLo48 (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Virtually all the news-outlets covering this event refer to it as "assassination" (see 1900+ GoogleNews hits here[3]), so I think we should use that wording. Nsk92 (talk) 23:20, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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