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How to pronounce my name in real Japaneseⓘ


Hello, prepossessing reader. There's no need to post "Talkback" or "You've got mail" templates here. I watch my e-mail, and also your talkpage if I've posted on it. (Click here if you want another compliment.)

Please don't leave

I'm sorry you are feeling tired. While you should do what is best for yourself, you are valued and loved here.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:07, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

miss jocund and honey-tongued --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
... even enjoyable, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A tiredness cure for you!

Although i never touch the stuff, i hear coffee is good for this kind of thing. Enjoy it, this one's on me! And keep up the good work for as long as you enjoy it. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 13:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(Reluctantly.) Sip. Thanks. Bishonen | talk 15:53, 4 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Recent Revert

So we can edit discussions that are closed?? LalaLAND (talk) 14:41, 4 March 2013 (UTC) Unless you reply here, I will revert again as I will assume it was a mistake on your part. LalaLAND (talk) 14:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I very much doubt it was a mistake, so just leave it. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:51, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That "No further edits should be made" note isn't a rule, just a request. And even if it was a rule, Wehwalt would have every right to remove his own edit per WP:IAR, since he gave a good reason for the removal. You gave none for reverting him, and you still offer none. How did your action improve Wikipedia, pray? Bishonen | talk 14:52, 4 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Tea Party movement arbitration case opened

An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 20, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 23:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Feel like an FA

I have been tinkering about with this page one that should appeal to our Americam cousins. Would you like to take a look and see if you feel like fixing up the punctuation and reffs etc. What do you think?  Giano  18:12, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, my friend

His Excellency with some chums

Since I have gotten myself involved in a little nonsense elsewhere on this site, I thought I would do the polite thing and express myself mordantly relieved that you can still be found upon these hallowed pages. I do hope that I have agitated your neural pathways sufficiently for you to purview (and even approve of) my sentiments. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:45, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LHvU wandering around WP muttering, Giano and Bish possibly collaborating on an FA... it's starting to feel like 2006! --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful! I can go back to successfully raiding Ahn'Qiraj every night instead of failing to write an encyclopedia. --RexxS (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, isn't it a lovely, 2006 again: Abba, Saturday Night Fever and my flared jeans with red & green leather pockets - Oh happy days.  Giano  08:16, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You must be thinking of your misspent youth fifty years earlier, excellency. You have mail, and Bishonen will take a look at the article you mentioned as soon as RL problems allow.
File:Vivienne Westwood by Mattia Passeri.JPG
Yes dear, we have seen the portrait on your talk page [1], and very nice you were too - all those years ago. I think this portrait is a little more up-to-the-moment. Titaian hair is all very well, but at your age I feel a soft blue rinse and three strings of pearls would become you better. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 18:43, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Mr LessHeard: Bishonen should be back to her unpleasant self in a few days and will then respond to your kind yoho. Cassandra at the peak of her insanity (crazytalk) 13:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
I can assure you that my nephew looks extremely smart in whatever he wears. In my family, it is considered vulgar to relentlessly pursue fashion. My own hemline has not moved since 1927 and very dignified it looks too. You may choose to look like a stick insect in one Vivienne Westwood's strange creations, but people of a certain standing do not. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 14:10, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're right Ma'am. I was particularly struck by how smart he looked in his recent portrait. --RexxS (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It has been several seasons (or possibly eons) since I looked anything like a stick insect - is there a reputable encyclopedia in which I might discover whether there are any classes of log insects you might recommend? Therefore I shall presume this later discourse not to be meant for my attention. LessHeard vanU (talk) 17:58, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Look out, Giano! Some guy has fallen out of the clock tower and is about to land on top of you! --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:01, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Oh look, Giano's wearing the priceless vestments made when Lady Catherine replaced her drawing room curtains! (Mentioned in this account of her funeral.) Classy! Cassandra at the peak of her insanity (crazytalk) 18:43, 8 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Whats wrong with you people??? The Lady Catherine is here and no red carpet???

Note to the master

User:Noodleki

Hello. You blocked Noodleki (talk · contribs) for copyvios back in February, it seems they have a sock account Noodle90 (talk · contribs) (created back in October 2012, but mainly active after the block of the master) which is now busy doing exactly the same thing they were blocked for. --Saddhiyama (talk) 21:39, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wham, bam, thank'ee ma'am. Checkuser confirms socking. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like I stupidly waded into the shark tank, thinking it was the starfish petting tank

I really have no idea what's going on there, Bish. If it looks like I'm advocating a bad idea somehow, I'm not. I know I'm not, because I'm not advocating anything. I was just commenting on the more general case of "he was blocked by one admin, now you need consensus to unblock", which drives me up a wall. But it looks like that isn't actually the case. Whatever it is, it looks like this is a typical ANI circus? And as usual Regents Park showed clue of some kind, and is getting yelled at for it? Haven't looked at ANI for (goes to check userpage) 16 days. But I'm really sorry it's got you stressed out.

Still working on Grownupedia. "Still working" in the sense of "still thinking it would be a cool idea for someone else to do". Step one: find someone who knows what they're doing to take over the task, and then play a Tom Sawyer trick on them. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone please ping me when applications become available? Also, I do have a few friends I could nominate for membership if there is a lack of interest. (reference note: While whitewashing fences is a noble profession, it can get to be a tiresome task) — Ched :  ?  07:37, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much

For this. I wonder, is there a "defender of the puppy" barnstar? It is so nice to know when I am ill and having trouble staying on top of things there are kind editors like you who will step in and help run interference. You have my gratitude. KillerChihuahua 03:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course there is. --RexxS (talk) 05:29, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OMG, that is teh awesomeness, thank you Rexx! KillerChihuahua 02:58, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice Rexx! Bish-glad to see you are still around and I hope you are doing well.PumpkinSky talk 22:40, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
:) BlueSapphires (talk) 10:14, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Bishonen, I will be celebrating my birthday on 19 March. So, I would like to give you a treat. If you decide to "eat" the cookie, please reply by placing {{subst:munch}} on my talk page. I hope this cookie has made your day better. Cheers! Arctic Kangaroo 15:36, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]



[Breathing out a light spray of {{cookie}} crumbs as she speaks :] Darwinbish has stolen your cookie! The cookie made her happy and she'd like to give you a great big hug for leaving it where she could reach it. Spread the WikiLove by giving her more {{cookie}}s, unless you want her boys to pay you a visit!

A pie for you!

you need more food, since darwinbish stole your cookies!!!! Aunva6 (talk) 02:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]



Yum! Munch munch munch! [Bishapod runs off, full of delicious nectarine pie.] bishapod talk to your inner fish 10:26, 18 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]

so hungry

Wow - this family certainly does have a healthy appetite. :) — Ched :  ?  10:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

since all the food keeps getting stolen, I give you a kittenses!!!!

Aunva6 (talk) 18:03, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am SOOOO going to have to steal that one the next time I get in a huff. TY for pointing that one out Bish. :-D — Ched :  ?  17:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Come here, kitty, kitty, kitty..

(edit conflict)

Darwinbish has taught your Virtual Wikikitten to bite you shrewdly on the ass. Hopefully that has made your day better. Kittens are cute and have very sharp teeth! Spread the goodness of kittens by giving someone else a bitey kitten, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

A beer for you!

well, what better thing to do than get a bish drunk!!!!! only good can come of that! Aunva6 (talk) 18:13, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]


[Young Darwinfish has a few sips and reels off.] I left you some, Bishonen, I'm a good little user, I am! Burp! tipsy darwinfish, 19:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Not convinced. See: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/123000.html --RexxS (talk) 00:45, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Divine Bish

[3]. Indeed. In fact, there's already even a book about you: Small Gods. NE Ent 01:26, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

but bishzilla isn't small... I mean, why would tokyo be afraid of a small bishzilla?

Aunva6 (talk) 02:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

Hi Bishonen. I added pending-changes protection to Delwar Hossain Sayeedi while you were writing your decline comment there (I didn't see that you'd declined until I went back to RPP). I'll leave it up to you whether you remove my protection or leave it there. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 16:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there wasn't anything abusive in the new user's additions, just something about the name, and I hope they'll get my point about using the talkpage. On the other hand I think there's a case to be made for using Pending Changes on all BLPs! We just simply don't want drive-by editing on them to be too easy. So I'll certainly leave your action, thanks for filling me in. Bishonen | talk 17:23, 21 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]

I like the section heading and the smell of monsters. May I take refuge here for a while? I have just done something horrible. [4] Hans Adler 21:12, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"And if you can't justify your position, maybe you will learn something and change your opinion." Ha! [With abnormal strength of character, Bishzilla refrains from linking to a certain RFAR which does not indicate any willingness to learn or change on the part of the person Hans addressed. With another huge effort of will-power, she also doesn't link to the Wikipedia Review leaks of the highly embarrassing demeanour of the same person on the arbcom mailing list.] Worn out by all the will-power! Applying Bishonen conglomerate monster protection racket! [Bishzilla stuffs the little üser Häns in her pöcket.] No worries, little Höns! Not keeping any arbs or godkings in there these days! Safe place! bishzilla ROARR!! 22:01, 21 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
i'd think said person would be used to such statements/criticism. said person did collapse the comment, although as part of a chunk (bigger than the longest talk page i've seen as of yet), in an effort to reduce the length of his talk page.

Stoppit!

Don't you dare insult Mummy [5]; I won't have people being beastly to her; she's a wonderful, kind and very misunderstood person. She has known true suffering; it wasn't easy being dead for four years, and people said very cruel things when her third and fourth husbands both took their own lives. You should realise that - so stoppit or my pony will kick you. The Hon Mrs Humphrey Starborgling (talk) 20:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah right. [/me thoughtfully pets Mrs Starborgling's pony.] What a fine fellow! I just saw it on Darwinbish's page! Bishonen | talk 22:09, 21 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for the help on the Yohio article. I was not sure I did the right thing by reporting it to Article protection but I guess it was for the best. The tone of the sentences I removed was way to negative to be unbiased. However if the sentence can be rewritten in a less negative tone then I am all for it. Again thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:11, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for keeping an eye on the article and posting an alert, BabbaQ. I really hate the idea of that young guy googling for his name and finding mean stuff in his Wikipedia article. Bishonen | talk 21:23, 22 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Think the situation at the Yohio article has calmed down thankfully. Now I would like your opinion on Robin Stjernberg, someone has been placing a image of him making a funny/ugly face which I have had to revert several times now back to the original image. I am not sure that a image of a subject making a funny and quite honestly ugly facial expression is appropriate, I have had to revert the image back several times and I think I did the right thing but always better with other users opinions too. Just as Yohio doesnt want to read negative about him if he comes to his Wikipedia article I doubt Stjernberg wants to see an image of himself making a ugly face. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, WP:BLP is serious business. I've warned both the account and the IP (no doubt the same person). You edit conflicted me, shame on you! ;-) Bishonen | talk 15:42, 4 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Good work. Well, no one is perfect ;-) --BabbaQ (talk) 17:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
User Kiruning changed back to mentioning Yohios Japan status. I reverted the users edits because as we have established already any assumption of the singers "fame" in Japan is pure speculations and Yohio has never claimed to be a "huge pop star in Japan" anyway. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 20:21, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. Your revert turned up on my watchlist, and so I have posted on their page Pity neither you (I suppose) nor I saw their post on Talk:Yohio a week ago. I only just noticed that one. Stupid of me, since they mentioned me (my protection) specifically and everything. But my watchlist has rather large holes (like when I sleep). Bishonen | talk 20:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for PP on Spooling

Thank you so much for taking care of my request! Anti-vandal work goes so much more smoothly when one can get help from folks with powers we don't have.

I took a quick look at your work, BTW, and it's great. Please don't leave! The tiredness will pass—I've had to deal with it myself when the jerks started to get under my skin.

Have a good weekend! — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 23:56, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[Uneasily.] My "work"? Really? I always suspect I'm the laziest admin on Wikipedia. But thank you. Bishonen | talk 00:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Your content I'm sure, Bishy. Dun be silly. You writes so good, I am maze. KillerChihuahua 00:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, what I should've said is "your writing". Sorry for the confusion; my intent was to complement you.
I can haz thesaurus, pleez, to rite gooder?? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 01:17, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Compliment undeserved, sadly. I wrote content in the early fourteenth century, a period which probably the elderly MurderDoggie recollects fondly, but that was then. But for riting gooder, you absolutely can! Please see helpful advice and link at the top of Bishzilla's talkpage! Use thesaurus and you, too, can write in voluble, wordy, loquacious, glib, prolix, tedious, pleonastic, verbose, garrulous style! Bishonen | talk 01:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
or we could make all our edits in lolcat. I suppose that could be considered garrulous.-- Aunva6talk - contribs 04:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Haha! Little Aunva6 sarcastic, we like that! darwinbish BITE☠ 17:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
well, witty mite be bettr werd, but thank u none teh les. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 17:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

curious

About this revered

do you folks know how revered you are? just wondering. — Ched :  ?  05:44, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I sure hope so, it's pretty obvious if you ask me. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 14:20, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
reverend darwinbish? I think you mean the Reverend Dr. Sir Darwinbish, KoW, PhD (Knights of Wikipedia). sounds more... illustrious... -- Aunva6talk - contribs 14:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not all tps non-plussed, fortunately. --RexxS (talk) 22:51, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
BISHZILLA FOR TRUSTEE!!!! -- Aunva6talk - contribs 23:02, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. I might have known better than to encourage your insane visual imagination, Rex. The 'zilla for trustee..? I could have sworn she already was. Bishonen | talk 23:53, 24 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
does that supersede arbcom? I could have sworn jimbo said arbcom has absolute power over teh interwebz. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 03:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, don't listen to that guy, ask Rex, he knows all about it. (Are you still a trustee, Rex?) Bishonen | talk 11:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
For a little while longer, yes. But you soon learn that teh interwebs are actually under the control of The Ruler of the Universe. Depressing, isn't it? --RexxS (talk) 00:32, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Copernican principle

Well, it is clear that Wyattmj and 91.183.53.247 are one party, which edit warred against three regulars (Drbogdan, Ushau97 and myself) and 78.50.199.189. With all their loud words, Wyattmj never provided sources for their fringe ideas, and when directly asked to stop and show the sources (by a fourth editor, 4twenty42o, on talk:Copernican principle), simply went on with reverts. You might be right though that I should report Wyattmj and have them blocked for warring instead of reverting, to stay clear of 3RR. Regards. Materialscientist (talk) 07:33, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

'This user is no longer enjoying Wikipedia, and currently has nothing more to say, especially not on this page.'

I know how you feel. That is why I don't even bother to sign in most of the time and rarely edit anymore. Alatari (talk) 01:15, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. I'm glad the conflict has been resolved. Bishonen | talk 11:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Somehow your response won't show up in my watchlist even if I turn on all things including bots and specifically search on user talk pages. This kind of watchlist error has been happening to me for years. Is it just a flaw in the system? Alatari (talk) 16:30, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A bug, I should think. But I don't understand such things. This is the place to ask. So how about my e-mail message, did you get that? Bishonen | talk 16:38, 25 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
my watchlist works fine. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 16:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Found a discussion on the bug here: [6] where they discuss a bug [7] (it's 5 years old and not resolved) when you hide any parts of the watchlist. So thanks. This sounds familiar so I probably forgot about it. The adjusted watchlist is huge. Alatari (talk) 17:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's working! [8] now to figure out how to hide Cluebot again. Supposedly there is a user script to add to your browser that will do the job. Alatari (talk) 17:47, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AN discussion

A discussion which relates to actions or comments made by you can be found at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive247#Peter Damian socks. Fram (talk) 15:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IPv6

That IP was an IPv6 and just as much a vandalism-only account as they would have been using the IPs that you're already familiar with. As long as you're not considering a range block, you can treat them just like their shorter cousins. The difference with the range blocks is that you can block a few million IPv6s and probably only affect half of a street. Sounds like heaven for Sandstein. --Famously Sharp (talk) 01:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But how I treat the short cousins depends on whether they're static or dynamic. My problem here is that I can't tell which this one is, it doesn't have the usual "Geolocate" link. Oh, Famously, why aren't you an admin so that you can deal with it? (Rhetorical question, I know why. Laziness.) Anyway, I'll be asleep in 30 seconds. P. S. "Considering a range block"? Me? Is that a polite pretence that I might know how to perform one, or mere sarcasm? Bishonen | talk 01:13, 27 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
IPv6 will make your decisions much easier. The chances of different people ending up using the same IPv6 address is even smaller than my chances of passing an RfA. In fact you could block a given IPv6 for a period even longer than us dinosaurs have been around without incurring any significant chance of affecting another user. So go for it! --Famously Sharp (talk) 02:08, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Beer keg

No, I haven't: I've seen many cases where such editors are genuinely surprised to see the House of Usher fall on top of them, and remain convinced of the conspiracy. I'm not sure I could still lift a beer keg, in my advanced state of physical and moral deterioration. As a tangent, my dog is investigating the yard, digging things up and sniffing them with her soft and beautiful nose and it warms my heart. On that note, I'm going to leave our wonderful project for a little while; have a great weekend. Drmies (talk) 15:11, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You too. We all know beer isn't even the Dutch drug of choice, hint hint, snigger. Bishonen | talk 15:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC).[reply]
aren't germans supposed to be the drinkers? Ich habe gehört, sie trinken Bier wie Wasser. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 21:23, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
aren't - looked like my name, and I was called "melliflous" again, how heart-warming! (Germans drink, so do Dutch, and Belgians ...) - the warming came in time for my first steps to the WP:Great Dismal Swamp ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think of it as the Slough of Despond, but I'm sure other metaphors apply as well. Maybe the La Brea Tar Pits, from which have been dredged thousands of skeletons of prehistoric Wikipedians. Antandrus (talk) 21:29, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I had my history with the swamp ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MONGO scared!

Help! This is in my userspace...it needs your support and I was hoping after I do some more modifications, you might be brave enough to shoot it to the zilla? Thanks in advance!--MONGO 19:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, no need for RFF. Founder flag already activated! Bishonen | talk 20:01, 2 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
I nominated the 'zilla yesterday... see the 'zilla talk page. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 20:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great! MONGO once again behind the curve...dumb MONGO...head back to forest, leave footprints, spook visiting city slickers.--MONGO 14:12, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What a surprise - a tribute to me!

My dearest, and very dearest Mrs Bishonen, I am quite overcome by your writing an article on my most favourite BP (best poet). I had no idea you were planing such a tribute to my service to Wikipedia and years of selfless devotion to the world of culture, art, beauty and refinement. By celebrating these little known poets we open up and share a world of enlightenment to the little people - whose lives are so base and shallow. Of course; it's not quite as I (a true expert) would have written it, but for a first attempt at a page; it shows great promise. Very well done. The Lady Catherine de Burgh (talk) 20:39, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Thomas Jordan's best-known poem always makes me think of you:
Let us drink and be merry, dance, joke, and rejoice,
With claret and sherry, theorbo and voice!
The changeable world to our joy is unjust,
All treasure’s uncertain,
Then down with your dust!
In frolics dispose your pounds, shillings, and pence,
For we shall be nothing a hundred years hence.

Because it's so not true in your case! You steam right on with the claret and sherry, theorbo and voice into your second century, you're immortal! Excelsior! Bishonen | talk 21:02, 2 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting

milquetoast? This wikt:milquetoast? ;) NE Ent 23:47, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yerse? Don't you think the shoe fits me? Bishonen | talk 00:41, 5 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
In my opinion, based on unscientific, sporadic observation, you're always one of the most calm, reasonable Zen admins except when ... you're not. NE Ent 02:08, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Thomas Jordan (poet)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I need your help again, now an IP has merged the Allenton house fire without any discussion or consensus. Atleast not to my knowledge. Is that something that needs to be adressed at the IPs talk page? Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BRD says just undo it, and discuss on the article talk page. i'll give the IP a mild warning, and direct him/her to discuss it. (@bish- perhaps you should add a talk page stalker notice, you certainly have some, lol) -- Aunva6talk - contribs 15:49, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Aunva6 for your assistance.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:30, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, thanks, aunva6. The IP jumped the gun, without attempting to reach consensus on either of the talkpages, nor engaging with the previous discussion. In fact, I can't see that they have posted on any talkpage at all. That is unacceptable. If I were you, BabbaQ, I'd revert back to the status quo ante (not just revert the redirect, but also the addition of merged material to Mick Philpott), with a conciliatory edit summary explaining that this is only until consensus is reached, and then try to revitalize the discussion on Talk:Mick Philpott. Of course the merge discussion needs to be kept on one talkpage, so whichever one you prefer, you may want to put a note on the other page about it. But, no, I don't see any need for you to engage on the IP's talkpage. (My tps are the best, that's why I keep giving them nice compliments.) Bishonen | talk 19:35, 6 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
I will do that. Thank you for the assistance with this. Also if you could take a look at the Emmelie de Forest article. Some POV pushing by user Vinson wese is going on since earlier today. I am not sure what to do really as the user seems combative. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 23:57, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I decided to revert all recent edits and leave a comment on the articles talk page and hopefully the situation will die down.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:05, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Regret to have to write to you again but the user has reverted back to his version of rambling up reason after reason to why Emmelie de Forest is a liar about her nobility claims. I dont know if I am right here but I think an article about a singer should not contain 70% information about how the singer is lying about something even if it is sourced or unsourced. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:11, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
that sounds like WP:undue to me... and his edit summaries are, for lack of a better word, odd...

("Urbandweller" has a tendency to enforce his/her viewpoint without discussion - not a good basis for collaborating on an encyclopedia. In fact, I'm the only one using the talk page. You cannot place an NPOV tag without a rationale/discussion.)

there doesn't need to be discussion to place tags, and most don't even require posting on the talk page about it, so that is just pure nonsense. it also looks like a borderline personal attack on urban to me. I will look at the source,and see what it is really saying. also suggest leaving it lie, lest you violate 3rr. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 00:23, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I have told the user I will be leaving the discussion and let someone else look at the situation. The user has done the exact same strange edits on the Danish article on this singer. Even if the sources are correct it gives undue weight to a certain situation that has been blown out of proportion by the user in question. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

*Sorry I wasn't around. I see they've been blocked for 31 hours by Bbb23 for violating WP:3RR. So far so good, but it seems they also need a talking-to about WP:BLP and WP:UNDUE, or the problems on those fronts are likely to continue. We can't have that kind of stuff in a bio. I'll go tell them so. Thanks for defending these biographies, both of you. (I've deleted the Category:False claimants of royal descent. Abusing people isn't the purpose of categories.) Bishonen | talk 11:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, it is really frustrating when a new user pops up and refuses to listen to reason. Even after Auven6 tried to reason with the user it still refused to compromise. In my opinion not an even smaller mention of all of this should be in the article but I accept that some people find in necessary to have this pseudo-event mentioned. The user is doing the exact same thing in the Danish Wikipedia article on the singer. Yes, Auven6 was really helpful and as I stated to her I admire her patience with that user last night. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 11:49, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I took a look at the Danish history and talkpage. Interesting. I see a mention of the user's block on en in the latest edit summary (an update in relation to your mention on talk that they're "under investigation", BabbaQ). Are you Danish? Do you guys have any policies corresponding to 3RR, BLP, and UNDUE? Bishonen | talk 13:08, 7 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
No I am not Danish I am Swedish so I understand almost everything written in Danish too. Yes, the users edits has been reverted over there too partly. I am not sure if the 3RR rule apply on Danish Wikipedia. But if so then the user has done the same problematic edits there too. And yes I think that Danish Wikipedia has the same rules about UNDUE and BLP. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 14:17, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to bother you with this but could you take a look at the edits of user Thomas Phuck at the article Simona Williams, I believe the user is either Simona herself or someone close to her. Seems a bit like the Emmelie de Forest article where one user is determined to have its own way no matter what. I hope I did the right thing by reverting some of the users edits and adding back only the important information. I also have a concern about the username Thomas Phuck, if you change Ph to F and then uck you get a certain word that might not be suitable for Wikipedia, and I am not sure if that was the intention of the user :) So please take a look. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 15:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've no experience of these types of blocks, so I lazily stuck Thomas Fuck here for attention/assistance. An SPA, apparently — I'll take a look at the contribs later. Bishonen | talk 19:18, 28 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
And replied here to a suggestion that it might be a real name. (Ha ha.) Username blocked by Ched, so presumably we may expect a new account to start editing Simona Williams in the same inimitable style. Don't worry, I already gave them a 3RR warning. Bishonen | talk 23:08, 28 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Revision deletion

Turning to you, since you always appear so helpful and wise. Could you possibly help me out by deleting my contributions to this page. They were minimal, and I rolled them all back almost immediately.

When I saw it among old AFCs, I thought "WTF? Surely he is notable by now. Another bad AFC review." But as I moved it and started working on it, I realized that this had all the potential to turn into some kind of BLP nightmare with vandalism inserted for a dozen different reasons (including, quite possibly, vandalism performed as artistic experimentation). I don't want to be the permanent guardian of the article and would prefer to keep my username out of that article history. (If you decide to move it to article space, please perform the deletion of my edits before doing that.) --Hegvald (talk) 13:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wow. I agree with you that the subject is somewhat notable, but I'm rather glad you had second thoughts about putting it in mainspace. I well remember the furore in Swedish media at the time. Have you seen Erotic cake, by the way? And this section of Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth?
Thank you for the compliments. Flattery will get you most places with me, but in this case… sorry, I can't see any policy support for disappearing those edits of yours. Do you really think they're embarrassing, or likely to cause trouble for you? Because I don't. It's obvious from your edit summaries that you had good reasons for everything you did, including changing your mind.
I won't move it to mainspace. But if it should turn up there later, it'll surely hardly be your responsibility to be its guardian, even if you do appear back in the history. Bishonen | talk 14:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Oh snap, and I was so sure a bit of flattery would work... Generally, I try to stay away from BLPs, and I soon realized that it was a miscalculation to get involved with this one in particular. Either way, he is notable enough that somebody is likely to post an article in mainspace soon anyway. Doing this from scratch would require less effort than starting from the AFC version.
No, I didn't see Erotic cake before. How does the caption author know that the beheaded and half-legged cake-woman is a dancer? Is she perhaps dancing some form of the Cakewalk? Was ML's cake intended to be erotic, or is there a violation of WP:SYNTH going on there? (It was remarkably similar to that Ur-European Venus of Willendorf, who may or may not have been considered erotic by palaeolithic European men. Or palaeolithic European lesbians, I should add, just to remain completely politically correct. Or palaeolithic bisexuals of either sex. Or anyone alive at the time who may have objected to being identified as part of mainstream palaeolithic culture.)
I noticed the Adelsohn Liljeroth cake-cutter section. It should probably go, but it seems pointless trying to remove it, as someone will just put it back. It's "notable" and easy to source, while a balanced description of her political career would both take time to put together and soon be marked as a "resumé" by some drive-by tagger. --Hegvald (talk) 18:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nirmal Baba

Although, you had declined page protection but please see [9] history again the sections like --Allegation of fraud--- the main reason why his controversial telecasts were stopped and cases are pending in Supreme and other courts are repeatedly removed. Further, I doubt if the page protection will suffice as I note that Single Purpose accounts like Daniel w2, Jk2689, Bj28193, Luro28 are created to keep the vandalism alive.

As you are an admin and have powers to stop such vandalism, I request you to please look in to matter again and perhaps find a solution to this. Can this all accounts be blocked for vandalism, sock puppetry?? Jethwarp (talk) 05:29, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow!!! User Jk2689 - even blanked the page. Jethwarp (talk) 08:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's some attack. Those new accounts are probably all one individual, but I don't care whether or not — they're vandalism-only accounts, so I've blocked them. And since it's so easy for that/those determined individual/s to create new socks, I've also semiprotected the article for three months. Thanks for letting me know! Bishonen | talk 10:25, 8 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
P.S. New accounts have to wait four days before they're able to edit through semi. If somebody has the patience to create new accounts and leave them to "age", we could see another outbreak in 4—5 days. In my experience, that usually doesn't happen, but if it does, please just let me know again, and I'll play whack-a-mole (=block them as they show up). It may come to full protection, I suppose, but we'll try to avoid that. Bishonen | talk 10:34, 8 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
they have to do a certain amount of edits too, don't they? -- Aunva6talk - contribs 13:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ten edits. That won't inconvenience anybody much. Bishonen | talk 13:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
ten constructive edits... perhaps I'm being a bit pessimistic, but what are the chances that a vandal will make 10 constructive edits on each sock? -- Aunva6talk - contribs 13:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The chances are pretty close to 100%. There's not much point in going to the trouble of registering a sock account if it can't edit through semi-protection. --RexxS (talk) 01:04, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
[Maniacally:] Because it's fun! Fun! Fun! darwinbish BITE ☠ 09:19, 9 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
You're a silly little sock, darwinbish. Actually, in this case it's quite logical, Aunva6. The subject is a, um, spiritual leader, and the current vandals are obviously followers (or quite likely all one follower) removing negative facts (lawsuits), or the sources for such facts. Bishonen | talk 09:27, 9 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
that does make sense... -- Aunva6talk - contribs 14:37, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
thanks...I will be watching the page.Jethwarp (talk) 14:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

>> P.S. : At least one mole has been left....free... pl. see..[10]. --Jethwarp (talk) 09:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, right. That may be somone else. They edited through semi to add puffery, as J.P. Gordon said when he reverted, but did make an effort to add references. Their actual vandalism was back in February, so there has been progress of a kind, and they haven't reverted JPG. I don't think I want to block them, or even warn, right now. There have been a few constructive edits to non-religious articles too. Please keep watching, and I will, too. Bishonen | talk 10:15, 17 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

ANI, IPs, etc.

Just to let you know that I respected your comments at WP:ANI. Regards. Bbb23 (talk) 22:59, 9 April 2013 (UTC) has extended an olive branch of peace.[reply]

Talkpage stalkers

rrawRRR ... 'Zillas want food <looks at little twig, tastes ... pfft.> yucky. Little Bbb a good editor, Chedzilla happy to pick up and put in pocket that honorable Bishzilla give him. Bishonen .. "can I keep him"? I think he make fine addition to the cabal. — ChedZILLA 01:11, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Zilla .. see what happens when I let you have the keyboard? Yes, we all know that Bbb is a good editor and a good admin. Now could you please stop sticking your most enormous nose into other people's business? geesh ... the stuff I have to deal with here. Bish, my apologies for letting my sock loose. Best to your whole family .. although I'm still smarting over the little ankle biter chewing my arm off. :) — Ched :  ?  02:02, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
i'm sure I speak for all non-admins when I say that I find rouge admins to be the best admins! also, I thought that sticking our noses into others' business was what being an editor was all about, I mean look at all the BLP articles out there! and ched, your arm will grow back soon enough, from what I hear, this isn't the first time! -- Aunva6talk - contribs 02:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Copernican principle

Can you please check the latest edits at Copernican principle? -- Kheider (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case may be relevant. — Ched :  ?  19:39, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, and this. 72-hour block by VSmith. But I'll watch the article when the user returns from their block, because the history really doesn't look promising. I hope you'll ping me again if it starts up again and I miss it, Kheider. Bishonen | talk 20:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Ah, I was wondering how I got to Planck (spacecraft). That and Cosmological principle probably also bear watching; I dunno what the deal with cosmological principle is; maybe I'm not on the up and up enough to get it, but the latter part looks like kinda bad. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Roofs

I don't suppose you (or one of your fellow Nordics) would care to start a new page would you, by simply translating this [11]. It would be most useful.  Giano  19:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Säteritak. I'll see what else I can add. It's not a translation, as there was some dubious historical claims in the (unreferenced) Swedish article. Not sure if there is an English term. I doubt it but I'll look around for one. --Hegvald (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's brilliant; thank you. I have linked it already. I think it's a Scandinavian Baroque feature, which spread to northern Germany and the Low Countries but don't have a reference for it. It's often confused with mansard, but is quite different.  Giano  21:23, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:30, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That would be a rather unusual direction of cultural influence. --Hegvald (talk) 07:49, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To the contrary

Our paths have crossed previously, though rarely [12]

The manner in which I manage my talk page is completely unrelated to the content of comments posted there. It is no more or less embarrassing than the manner in which anyone else chooses to manage their user and talk pages.

Thank you for expressing your opinion. Fladrif (talk) 17:48, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • (talk page stalker)Well, without patting myself on the back (since it's hardly original), the way in which I archive my talk page, for example, could not possibly be called embarrassing. You make it impossible for other editors to see what was being said when. Within guidelines, yes. Transparent, no. Irritating, absolutely. Drmies (talk) 04:28, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was just about to post the same thing but you beat me to it. Yes he keeps his barnstars.--Penbat (talk) 13:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
asking for more, or what? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(watching) I am weeping and wailing, permitted here, thank you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I find Fladrif's talk page arrangements seriously irritating, see [13]. For somebody who throws stones it is annoying that I cant easily find out much about who I am dealing with. I am very tempted to piece all the talk page posts together either online or offline, it may take a while to do tho.--Penbat (talk) 11:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to do the same for Townlake, who deleted the same way, for example here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I echo the sentiments of Gerda and Drmies as well. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:23, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Boing

Although all admins have autopatrolled by default, Boing had himself un-admin'd last month. DS (talk) 15:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He got re-adminned, though, and I believe the crat that de-adminned him gave him autopatrolled as he did so. nevermind, no he didn't Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
...oops, I misparsed the situation. Thanks for pointing that out. DS (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my,

LOL, literally. I tried to think of something clever this morning when I saw the "trophy" thing in his edit summary - but was too pressed for time. Now I'm glad, cause I NEVER would have close to topping that one. Well played Bish, well played. :-) — Ched :  ?  20:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe. I just caught sight of that dangerously manic-looking image and couldn't resist. Bishonen | talk 12:16, 16 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
I know someone who looks like that. I've always been jealous of pretty boys. Drmies (talk) 14:30, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
LessHeard, for his part, isn't that young nor that blond, but I hope the facial expression catches how he looks when he receives barnstars. Bishonen | talk 14:40, 16 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Age isn't the be-all-end-all determining factor of life for me. So even though Mark is a bit younger than I am, I still look up to him in all so many respects. I'm proud to consider him a role model. — Ched :  ?  13:28, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question to talk page stalkers

I've often thought we need to say something like this, but perhaps it already exists, maybe inside something longer? Anybody know? Bishonen | talk 12:16, 16 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

I suggest block first, protect their talkpage and delete all the edits...they have ever made...no discussion is even needed.--MONGO 18:36, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's even more useful is that final epithet - do we have an acronym better than HAIBIN? I could imagine massive use for it on Wikipedia. --Famously Sharp (talk) 19:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Heheh. Pity WP:HAM is taken! Bishonen | talk 20:24, 16 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Delfin-bin and ...
... hamfisted and irritating, but I'm nice!
I like what Hai-bin evokes. Delfin-bin and Hai-bin. ---Sluzzelin talk 21:25, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hehe, you're good, Sluzzelin, and crazier than I thought. I'll never understand how you found those images. (Hai is if possible even more evocative in the frozen north. Ah, the native tongue of Bishzilla!) Bishonen | talk 22:35, 16 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Mick Philpott

Hi, cheers for reply, I've replied on my talk page.--A bit iffy (talk) 14:26, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tell the truth

I suppose I could feign interest, but regarding understanding: Do you (or Bishzilla) understand anything he's saying? I think "extra firm" patting is unfair when dealing with fringe topics like this. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

NO WAIT! I didn't mean "fringe"! Please ask your pet to show mercy. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:20, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
NO WAIT!! I didn't mean "pet"!! I meant... um... how would you describe that relationship? --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:21, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
[Ominously.] My lifeguard. Bishonen | talk 17:53, 16 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
(*gulp*) OK, I'm interested. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:00, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GNU C-Graph

Hello. There is currently a discussion at WP:ANI regarding GNU C-Graph. The thread is Complaint Against Summary Deletion of "GNU C-Graph".The discussion is about the topic GNU C-Graph. Thank you. -Visionat (talk) 16:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If I might ask...

When I said to NE Ent "Re I'm not an admin - you should be!" over at ANI, what did you read that as meaning? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:00, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind - I had misunderstood something -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:08, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Boing .. just be sure to keep your hands inside the vehicle at all times if you should visit the little ankle-biter. things seem to disappear if one isn't careful. :) — Ched :  ?  16:45, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've invoked WADR

here. You or your little ankle-biter may have useful comments in this discussion. Montanabw(talk) 19:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My god, she's not allowed outside the userspace. We'd all be dead. But I'll take a look in a bit. Bishonen | talk 20:25, 21 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Might

He might be Belchfire. They share similar interests and have similar styles. Pass a Method talk 21:36, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He might also be User:Frankfort05 Pass a Method talk 21:46, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unless I misremember the limits, those are both too old to checkuser. And two suggested masters is no good—won't fly on WP:SPI. "Checkuser is not for fishing." Sorry to be such a wet blanket. If you have some striking diffs with similarities of style etc, you could still take our new friend to SPI. Socks can be blocked per WP:DUCK, without a checkuser. But only if it's good, and only for one proposed sockmaster!
Anyway... if Keted doesn't change their editing style, they'll soon be indeffed on their own merits. Let's hope they do change it, then all's good. Bishonen | talk 22:51, 21 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Frankfort is almost certainly Scientoom. Ask Alison who did the block.  little green rosetta(talk)
central scrutinizer  02:45, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
User:Keted6 has returned to edit-warring on Abdulrahman al-Awlaki Pass a Method talk 21:49, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know I'm in your bad books at present...

... but could you possibly have a look at "Ekorrgos"? The phonotactics for both of our modersmålor just seems completely wrong there. Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:04, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[/me ferrets around for her bad books. Can't find 'em. Darn. If you did something fiendish, please disregard this reply, because if so I should of course ignore you!] Not a problem in Swedish phonotactically, if that means what I think it means. (Yes, I did click, but you could put my phonetics expertise on the point of a pencil.) Compare for example herrgård. No problem there. Speaking of which, what does Sighsten Herrgård (1943—1989)), a gay man with a phonotactically cromulent name but not conspicuously fancied by older or any women as far as I know, have to do with it? Anyway, it's an ephemeral neologism, we don't promote 'em. Bishonen | talk 11:44, 22 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you

The Civility Barnstar
Thank you for leaving a helpful comment on my RfA in which you helped me to improve my understanding of civility. I always welcome constructive criticism like that, and here's my way of saying thank you. Cheers, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you, Piotrus. I'm sorry to see the current pile-on. Bishonen | talk 23:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

re:

"(And I'm old, too.)" ... hey, Zillas are timeless and ageless. :-) — Ched :  ?  00:20, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ho ho ho

Smok, Giano's personal dragon

See my new, cool re-write page; I've got my owm dragon now, Smok, [14] and he's far bigger, scarier and better than any of your small reptiles.  Giano  20:43, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I see him. About the size of a sheep, isn't he? Cute little fellow. Bishonen | talk 22:29, 28 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
He's not; he's huge and extremely fierce!  Giano  07:38, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What precisely is....

Her Ladyship's attention has been brought to this edit of yours [15]. Lady Catherine is not familiar with the term and wishes to know precisely what is a TOC Limit? Please address all correspondence through me and nobody else; Lady Catherine is not to be bothered personally; she is currently in Amsterdam advising her Godson on his forthcoming reign. Vera Corpus (Miss) (talk) 19:40, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How kind of you to stalk my edits, Miss Corpus. I feel validated. That template was new to me, but I had noticed with consternation that the subsections on Vanbrugh's plays and architectural works didn't appear in the Table of Contents, and managed with some difficulty to locate the template that was doing it. Apparently this template makes the TOC ignore subheadings beyond a certain depth (in this case, subheadings with more than 3 equals signs, ===). The idea apparently is that too "deep" a TOC will look "cluttered".[16] Yes, so it will, but information and ease of locating a particular play/house in that long article seems to me more important than a pretty (but misleading) TOC. In this version, you can see how the TOC looked just before my edit. Pretty and useless. Bishonen | talk 20:00, 30 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
It sometimes finds use when the 'References' section is subdivided by lower-level headings (like 'Notes' and 'Sources') and the editor prefers not to show them in the TOC. Of course it only works when the rest of the article has no other sub-headings that we do want to see in the TOC, but that does occasionally happen. --RexxS (talk) 22:38, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the fixiedust, great T-Rex. Bishonen | talk 23:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

re: Thomas P.

Just noticed your post here. I'll be busy and away for a good part of today - but if you (or any other admin.) feel a change is in order, please feel free to remove or adjust my block as you see fit. I'll check back when I get home later today or this evening. I also asked LoS to have a look here. — Ched :  ?  13:24, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's fine, thanks. I've had some (one-sided) correspondence with the user, where he complied with my request for evidence for a statement he had made. It checked out fine. Bishonen | talk 20:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
I'll leave things to others then ... perhaps a 'Zilla or two can handle it? .. <Ched cackles with evil laughter> Which reminds me, I need to drop by the honorable Giano's talk and see if "Smok" would object to my using his very glorious picture on the Chedzilla page. Some sort of WP:FOP thing caused the loss of his profile pic. But I know so little of these things. My very best to the family (although I've learned my lesson about trying to pet the little ankle biter) — Ched :  ?  20:15, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Have you really? It was rather daring of you to ignore her on your talk. Still got the other arm? Want to lose it? Bishonen | talk 20:34, 30 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Ahr. Hrrm. I guess there's occasionally leakage from the over-indulged Darwinbish personality into other members of the conglomerate, like me. Good job she doesn't have the block tool, isn't it? Imagine the biffing and the urkkking. [/me resolves to become more like Darwinfish.] Bishonen | talk 19:29, 1 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

OBOD

Hi Ms. 'Shonen. I noticed that you and the little one with sharp teeth were testing a few things. Perhaps you are already aware of this, but if you missed it then you may be interested in (User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/orangeBar.js). I also noticed that Floq and User:Writ Keeper have been talking, so WK is putting a lot of effort into helping others implement the solution as well as tweaking the interface. I noticed a few of the kids playing with this "new notification system", which I actually did get a chuckle out of even if I pretended to be a grumpy "get off my lawn" guy in front of them. Actually there are a few things I do like about the little red dot - not only does it ping you if someone mentions you by linking to your username .. but it also just told me about the tightrope revert. (and of course I don't mind - Jimbo is big boy, so if he has an issue with my comment then I'll offer any explination or apology if I ever have to cross that bridge.) And while I'm at it .. I'm sorry, but I have to mention my guiding spirit User:Huntster just once with this new system. (I know, bad as the kids huh? ... but he always takes things in stride). Anyway - just thought I let you know about the script in case you hadn't seen it in your travels. Cheers and best to the family ... OH WAIT ... if you must give your adminy bits to one of the family, please give them to 'Zilla ... that little one with sharp teeth is sooooo unpredictable .. although she was most magnanimous about the slight on my talk page. Still - 'Zilla for admin, 'Zilla for 'Crat, 'Zilla for Arb, .. even User:Bishzilla for founder!! Cheers. — Ched :  ?  21:09, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Ched, but I don't miss the orange bar personally. I'm so used to the look of wiki pages that the little red blob strikes me immediately. What I miss is other people, who may be less habituated and addicted, getting a pushy, in-your-face, garishly colored banner all across the page whenever I 've written a tremendously valuable post on their page. Really.
I'm not sure about Bishzilla, she's getting above herself as it is. I mean, who exactly is the mighty mother account around here? And yet Zilla had the nerve a while back to issue a warning that she might topic ban me from Wikipedia space.[17] For silliness, if you please. It's true that I was trolling. Still. And admin tools might well encourage her to encroach further. Do we need that? We do not. Bishonen | talk 21:30, 2 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
My name is invoked, and so I appear. Actually, what Floq and I were discussing wasn't the OBoD script; it's a bit of CSS I made to hide the incredibly obnoxious +1 template. With it, it just shows up as a little, text-only "+1". Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 21:37, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Saw the mention ping too, which has prompted me to agree that 'Zilla needs the admin bit. Wiki really could stand to have a little more utter and complete chaos amongst the admins ranks...someone really willing to get in there and eat offenders alive! — Huntster (t @ c) 23:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

With apologies to the Goons

The Hitting the Nail on the Head Award
"But I haven't got a nail on my head" --Famously Sharp (talk) 21:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Julian Assange page

I would like to correct an inaccuracy on Julian Assange - the source doesn't state that he is living on a diet of pizza and takeaway food. It states that he has received takeaway food, which isn't the same thing. If I receive a takeaway pizza now and then it doesn't mean that I live on a diet of takeaway pizza. the source also states that he has a microwave and a kitchenette, and that his mother says that he is eating well.. At any rate, if the article wasn't protected, I would remove this error, so I suggest that it be removed as inaccurate. Totorotroll (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Totorotroll. I've moved your request to Talk:Julian Assange and answered it there, because it's useful if others with an interest in the article can read our convo also. Bishonen | talk 17:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Madagascar

Hi, can you restore Madagascar's indefinite move-protectio (sysop)? I think you removed it by mistake. Thank you. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:29, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I agree there's no call for anybody to ever move the page; at least not until such time as the spelling/the official name is changed. Bishonen | talk 20:38, 5 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
You are one of the best! MONGO 02:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It sucks MONGO. You beat me to the punch. All rights reserved though for the future. :) Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:16, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • [Bishonen blushes a becoming pink. Darwinbish turns bright red with rage. ] Must create vicious anti-admin barnstar for useless milquetoast admins! I am missing this template in my collection! [Eaten by envy, Darwinbish withdraws to her evil template smithy. ] darwinbish BITE ☠ 14:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Musing

Re [18] -- why is there no BishParrot (talk · contribs)? Seems likes a deficiency in the Bish-pantheon to me. NE Ent 13:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, my suggestions (before they spiralled out of control) were somewhat based on what was close on the keyboard. Though it turned out the real explanation was m had become p, which was a surprise — they're miles apart. A bishparrot, hmm. I must admit I like this clever chap/gal! Have you seen this upstart fish, btw? Not in the pantheon! (Portrait here.) Bishonen | talk 13:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
You know it makes an Ent sad to see an upstart fish stuck a tiny little bowl, right? NE Ent 02:11, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
because your awesome and, despite all the crap you've been through, you just keep going! -- Aunva6talk - contribs 14:10, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[Darwinbish, outraged again, steals the spinning star and leaves her favorite animated gif in its place.]

How right you were about the crap, Aunva! Crap from my own socks.. but never mind, I appreciate the sentiment no matter the illustration. Bishonen | talk 17:19, 8 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
[A robed cultist, face hooded yet radiating a subtle aura of unspeakable horror, sneaks up to the image and replaces it with the symbol of his unholy master.] Cthulhufish (ph'nag | fl'thun) 17:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Afphla namql to you too! [Darwinbish will not admit to being somewhat impressed.] A bit of a primitive fish, isn't it? No legs! And shut up in a bowl! Better send it to play with User:Darwinfish. [Db links Fish's name so he'll come here and be scared. Thank you devs! ] darwinbish BITE ☠ 20:24, 8 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
[The robed cultist returns, maintaining a posture of awful surety and calm, but there is a definite trace of fear in his voice]. Do not taunt the Master, little one; the Great Cork is all that separates this world from what lies beyond the Divide. If it were loosed, the earth--nay, the entire universe--would be plunged into the Outer Darkness, where the daemon-sultan Azathoth reigns, blind and unsensing, from the mad throne surrounded by a hellish chorus of accursed flutes and manic drums. The Master sleeps as long as the Cork is in place, but were it removed, he would instantly awaken and whisk us all away to those doomed nether regions with but a single, alien thought. Sleeping, yet not insensate--speaking of the manner of His imprisonment may have the most dire of consequences, and He has ways of making His will known and done. Ways that-*-[The cultist's speech is suddenly cut off as his head jerks slightly to one side; his eyes, heretofore alight through the shadows of his cowl with a mad double flame, grow glassy and dark. He falls to the floor, twitching and lowly muttering a single phrase in an alien tongue, over and over--Ph'nglui mglw'phalg Cthulhufish R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn...] Cthulhufish (ph'nag | fl'thun) 20:44, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not anymore you're not! (also just realized that I swapped the bracket keybcaps while cleaning my keyboard)-- Aunva6talk - contribs 05:37, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Darwinbish, what have I told you about creating socks? ... That you're not allowed to, that's right. You'd better keep that fellow in order or I'll block him/it. I suppose all you creatures of the night had forgotten that I'm the admin around here? Eh? Eh? Bishonen | talk 21:11, 8 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

On a more serious (and vague) note...

Did anything ever come of that last email? This edit reminded me) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:56, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing useful. You have mail expressing my sense of the lack of usefulness more fully. Incidentally, why do you suppose your linking of my name on User:Drmies' page didn't ping me? It surely can't be simply because it was in the caption? Or because it was merely "Bish" visible on the page? You're the expert, and the keeper of the writs. Bishonen | talk 20:35, 9 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
My linking? Pretty sure that was the good Doc's linking, as seen in this diff, not mine. The Master is preparing to devour the Doctor's sanity as we speak. (Pop quiz: am I talking about Wikipedia or Dr. Who???) I don't even *like* Dr. Who, and I still found this reference impossible to evade. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:40, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, sorry. The perpetrator wasn't the focus of my question, though. Can you figure why it didn't ping me? Bishonen | talk 00:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
Ah, I see. I think it's because he didn't sign it; it only pings someone when the post is signed. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 01:07, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Diamondadnrs seems to be an unusual user

Could you check up on User:Diamondadnrs. Is it just me, or is this person entangled in a dispute that has not ended over at Copernican principle? I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but... I like to saw logs! (talk) 08:50, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Note that Diamondadnrs started editing on 14 April as Diamondandrs and then lost that account (presumably meaning lost the password?), as stated here. A little confusing wrt contributions.) I'm keeping my eyes open, but I don't really have any tools, or special craftiness, that would enable me to "check up", more than any other user. That means the best I can do is ask a polite question on the user's page, and I will, after dinner. (Weird un-American timezone here. :-)) Incidentally Diamondadnrs has just stated they're taking a ten-day break from Copernican principle, and will "focus on other pages". Bishonen | talk 16:09, 11 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

I was wondering if this person is in any way related to <redacted>, who was recently a part of the same, ahem, discussion over at Copernican principle. I figured that as an admin you did have the tools to check out this situation. I seem to remember something about puppetry alleged, and well, this might be relevant. Regardless of whether there is a direct relationship, I was thinking there was some indirect relationship based on the edit history. I like to saw logs! (talk) 17:19, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I knew what you meant. That's what I've asked about here. I don't have access to the CheckUser tool, no. Only a handful of people have that. Those people can be asked to help, here, or by e-mail or on IRC, and I'm thinking that should be the next step, depending on the reply I get. For myself, I'm going to wait for a response from Diamondadnrs before I go further. Nothing to stop you requesting a checkuser right now if you want, but you should be aware that checkuser (the tool, not the people) is only a technical tool. It can't really find out about recruitment. Anyway, these are real people we're talking about. I don't want to necessarily be governed by appearances, but assume as much good faith as possible. Bishonen | talk 17:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Citation Barnstar
super page Adamantios 171101 (talk) 11:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(Nonplussed again.) Citation? Me? Well, thank you very much. Bishonen | talk 16:10, 11 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Please restore this page.

Greetings, Bishonen! I hope that since you're an administrator, you may be willing to restore the article Bouleia for me. The fact is it should never have been deleted in the first place; the deletion log summary states that the article bore no indication that it met the guidelines for inclusion, but fossil taxa generally are considered automatically notable. In any case, there is a source here, which can be used to help assert the article. I thank you in advance. So a print encyclopedia, a strawberry shortcake, and a sycamore walk into a bar - wait, have you heard this one? (talk) 08:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Automatically notable? I'm not sure. I think there ought to be more information, even in a stub. The only content was "Bouleia is an trilobite" plus this link. I agree with you that there was no speedy delete criterion for deleting it, but I suspect it might well have been deleted per one of the PROD or articles for deletion processes anyway. I'd rather not create it, but you can easily do it yourself. Or, tell you what, I'll put it in your userspace, where you can work on fattening it up a bit before releasing it into mainspace, to lessen the risk of it getting deleted again. Here it is in your userspace. You might look at a few of the blue links on the List of trilobites, for instance Bornholmaspis, to see what's expected of a trilobite stub. Happy editing! Bishonen | talk 09:37, 12 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]


Dear talkpage stalkers! A request for an image!

Goodlooking? Not exactly an attractive gentleman!
Is the world turn'd upside down because of ridiculous fashions, or is there something Bishzilla needs to tell us?

Once upon a time I had access to Early English Books Online through my uni library, and used to download cool facsimile covers and titlepages for 17th-century articles. No more. :-( Anybody out there who has, and who would like to download some goodlooking image of one or two of Thomas Jordan's (c. 1612—1685) many, many publications and then upload them to Commons, for the purpose of illustrating the article Thomas Jordan (poet)? If you're unsure of how to license such images and so on, see for example this example. Much appreciation will ensue! I'll get that sucker featured before I know where I am! Bishonen | talk 21:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

I will inquire at the New York Public Library this week and see what they have to offer. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:11, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fancy hearing from you, Brad, at the very moment when I was about to post a note on your page. OK, why don't I post it here instead:
Ha, how about that. On 20 April, I started larding and re-referencing the article in a sandbox, complementing my old DNB source with material from the more up-to-date ODNB. Only after I returned to mainspace today and pasted the new over the old version did I notice that you had copyedited it on 21 April. Bad luck.. sorry about that. I can't face merging your improvements with mine, not right now — I can do it next week — but perhaps you'd like to, well, copyedit it again, now that it's a bit different? Bishonen | talk 21:21, 12 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
No problem. I'll be glad to read through it again and make any tweaks that seem tweakable. Should I do it now, or wait until you let me know you are ready? Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please fall to. I'm ready all right, I've been fiddling with it for hours. Bishonen | talk 21:50, 12 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]
    • Haha! Wonderful, Nikki! Brad, it would be very cool if you could complement these fine covers with one or two of the Lord Mayor's shows, that were so splendid and successful? I quote from the pageant part of Seccombe's list of "Jordan's chief works": 30. ‘The Triumphs of London,’ 1675 (Sir Joseph Sheldon). 31. ‘London's Triumphs, express'd in sundry Representations, Pageants, and Shows,’ 1676, 4to (Sir Thomas Davies). 32. ‘London's Triumphs,’ 1677, 4to (Sir Francis Chaplin). 33. ‘The Triumph of London, for the Entertainment of Sir James Edwards,’ 1678, 4to. 34. ‘London in Luster; projecting many bright beams of Triumph,’ &c., 1679, 4to (Sir Robert Clayton [q. v.]). 35. ‘London's Glory, or the Lord Mayor's Show,’ 1680, 4to (Sir Patience Warde). 36. ‘London's Joy, or the Lord Mayor's Show,’ 1681, 4to (Sir John Moore). 37. ‘The Lord Mayor's Show, being a description of the Solemnity at the Inauguration of Sir William Pritchard, Kt.,’ 1682, 4to … 38. ‘The Triumphs of London performed … for the entertainment of Sir Henry Tulse,’ 1683, 4to. 39. ‘London's Royal Triumph for the City's Loyal Magistrate … at the Instalment of Sir James Smith, Kt.,’ 1684, 4to. Bishonen | talk 23:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC).[reply]

From an ancient of days, no longer present

ON NANSEN.


"I see," said Mr. Dooley, "that Doc Nansen has come back."

"Yes," said Mr. McKenna. "It's a wonder he wouldn't stay till winter. If I was setting on an iceberg in latitude umpty-ump north of Evanston these days, they couldn't pry me off it with a crowbar. Not they."

"He had to come back," explained Mr. Hennessy. "He got as far as he cud, an' thin he was foorced be th' inclimincy iv th' weather to return to his home in Feechoold, Norway."

"To where?" Mr. Dooley asked contemptuously.

"To Foocheeld, Norway," said Mr. Hennessy, with some misgivings.

"Ye don't know what ye're talkin' about," retorted the philosopher. "Ye ought to go back to school an' study gee-ography. Th' place he come back to was Oostoc, Norway, between Coopenhaagen an'--an' Rogers Park."

"Maybe ye're right," said Mr. Hennessy. "Annyhow, he come back, chased be a polar bear. It must iv been a thrillin' experience, leppin' fr'm iceberg to iceberg, with a polar bear grabbin' at th' seat iv his pants, an' now an' thin a walrus swoopin' down fr'm a three an' munchin' his hat."

"What ta-alk have ye?" Mr. Dooley demanded. "A walrus don't fly, foolish man!"

"What does he do, thin?" asked Mr. Hennessy. "Go 'round on crutches?"

"A walrus," said Mr. Dooley, "is an animal something like a hor-rse, but more like a balloon. It doesn't walk, swim, or fly. It rowls whin pur-suin' its prey. It whirls 'round an' 'round at a speed akel to a railroad injine, meltin' th' ice in a groove behind it. Tame walruses are used be th' Eskeemyoos, th' old settlers iv thim parts, as lawnmowers an' to press their clothes. Th' wild walrus is a mos' vicious animal, which feeds on snowballs through th' day, an' thin goes out iv nights afther artic explorers, which for-rms its principal diet. Theyse a gr-reat demand among walruses f'r artic explorers, Swedes preferred; an' on account iv th' scarcity iv this food it isn't more than wanst in twinty years that th' walrus gets a square meal. Thin he devours his victim, clothes, collar-buttons, an' all."

"Well, well," said Mr. Hennessy. "I had no idee they was that ferocious. I thought they were like bur-rds. Don't they lay eggs?"

"Don't they lay eggs?" Mr. Dooley replied. "Don't they lay eggs? Did ye iver hear th' like iv that, Jawn? Why, ye gaby, ye might as well ask me does a pianny lay eggs. Iv coorse not."

"I'd like to know what the objict of these here arctic explorations is," interposed Mr. McKenna, in the interests of peace.

"Th' principal objict is to get rid iv an over-supply iv foolish people," said Mr. Dooley. "In this counthry, whin a man begins f'r to see sthrange things, an' hitch up cockroaches, an' think he's Vanderbilt dhrivin' a four-in-hand, we sind him to what me ol' frind Sleepy Burk calls th' brain college. But in Norway an' Sweden they sind him to th' North Pole, an' feed him to th' polar bears an' th' walruses. A man that scorches on a bicycle or wears a pink shirt or is caught thryin' to fry out a stick iv dinnymite in a kitchen stove is given a boat an' sint off to play with Flora an' Fauna in th' frozen North."

"That's what I'd like to know," said Mr. Hennessy. "Who ar-re these Flora an' Fauna? I see be th' pa-aper that Doc Nansen stopped at Nootchinchoot Islands, an' saw Flora an' Fauna; an' thin, comin' back on th' ice, he encountherd thim again."

"I suppose," said Mr. Dooley, "ye think Flora an' Fauna is two little Eskeemy girls at skip-rope an' 'London bridge is fallin' down' on th' icebergs an' glaziers. It's a pretty idee ye have iv th' life in thim parts. Little Flora an' little Fauna playin' stoop-tag aroun' a whale or rushin' th' can f'r their poor tired father just home fr'm th' rollin'-mills, where he's been makin' snowballs f'r th' export thrade, or engagin' in some other spoort iv childhood! Go wan with ye!"

"But who are they, annyhow?"

"I make it a rule in me life not to discuss anny woman's charac-ter," replied Mr. Dooley, sternly. "If Doc Nansen was off there skylarkin' with Flora an' Fauna, it's his own business, an' I make no inquiries. A lady's a lady, be she iver so humble; an', as Shakespeare says, cursed be th' man that'd raise an ax to her, save in th' way iv a joke. We'll talk no scandal in this house, Hinnissy."

But, after his friend had gone, Mr. Dooley leaned over confidentially, and whispered to Mr. McKenna, "But who are Flora an' Fauna, Jawn?"

"I don't know," said Mr. McKenna.

"It sounds mighty suspicious, annyhow," said the philosopher. "I hope th' doc'll be able to square it with his wife."

-- Peter Finley Dunne, Mr Dooley at Peace and War copyright 1899, Boston. (His explanation of the Dreyfus Affair is even better.)

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