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Gospel Hall Brethren

Hi Davidcannon, Re. your recent posts on the Gospel Hall Brethren page. I note from your history that you are a brethren buff! Do you have the expertise to absorb the Gospel Hall Brethren page into the Open Brethren page? I have long contended that it should be a sectrion of that page, and doesn't warrant a page of its own. Journalist492 (talk) 14:51, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Difficult question! The Gospel Halls do have some distinctives that set them apart from their fellow-Brethren, especially in North America (less so in other parts of the world, however). If it can never be much more than a stub, perhaps it should be merged into the Open Brethren article. On the other hand, the OB article itself is quite long, so I really don't know what to think. I personally prefer articles not to be too short (like GHB) or too long (as OB might get), but that's just my own preference — we have to find a consensus on Wikipedia. For now, I'd rather let the matter ventilate for a while and let others have their say. Perhaps we can then collectively make up our minds what to do with the GHB article. David Cannon (talk) 15:05, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Jone Baledrokadroka

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Gounder

It may very well be a fact, but it not a defining characteristic of him, and is presently uncited. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 08:07, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Okay, give me time and I'll find a source. The template (which I had nothing to do with making) has a "religion" field for a reason. A person's religion may not be a "defining characteristic" but can (sometimes partially) explain what informs his world-view. Nothing uniquely Hindu about that - Bush held Evangelical Christian views which influenced him, Erdogan (in Turkey) is influenced by his Muslim faith (or at least his own interpretation thereof). Not a defining characteristic, but relevant. BTW, last time I looked at Bush's page, the infobox listed him as "Methodist." Why? After all, it's not a defining characteristic, is it? Anyway, if Gounder is removed from the Hindu cat, so must every other politician listed there. If you go on such a deletion spree, you won't have me to deal with, you'll have a whole lot of editors who won't be happy about that kind of mucking around. Not something to squabble over - I'll look for sources, I promise. (I've been mostly absent from Wikipedia for about 8 years and find a lot of loose ends to attend to on returning, so please give me a bit of time). BTW, I'm putting this reply on both my talk page and yours. David Cannon (talk) 08:41, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adminship

Thanks - I'd be willing to consider it, provided I can set a time limit for myself of one year, maybe two. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:24, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trout

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

You seem to have accidentally removed others comments on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ser Amantio di Nicolao Winner 42 Talk to me! 03:04, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Adminship

Never did thank you properly for nominating me. It's going to be an adventure, that's for sure. It will be an honor to serve, and I hope that I may do justice to the faith you have placed in me.

Thanks again! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:54, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are more than welcome! I'm so glad to have you on board. Welcome to the club! David Cannon (talk) 06:21, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adminship Nomination for Rich Farmbrough

Hi David, Greetings! I saw that you have nominated Rich for adminship. Could you direct me to the page as I would like to contribute. I accidentally went onto the 2005 discussion by following the link on his talkpage. Thank you for your help in advance. Audit Guy (talk) 13:22, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

David, please rest assured that I am not downhearted by the responses at RFA, of which 90%+ are totally reasonable, and a goodly proportion even of the opposes are morally supportive. I was to some extent paralysed by the question of whether to consider an RFA or an ABRCOM appeal first - if indeed I wanted to do either. Your action broke that deadlock.
Let me also encourage and support you in continuing to nominate candidates for adminship in the future.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC).[reply]
Thank you, Rich :-) David Cannon (talk) 01:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel Rae Costello

Hello mate, could you restore this article which i created in late 2006/early 2007? Since you are familiar with Fijian people, you know he is very notable, the deleting admin didn't even bother to read the article before he deleted it (as per his comments on IRC) and now refuses to restore it...Thanks--Stemoc 02:48, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'll have a look. Could you tell me who deleted it — and direct me to the discussion where he refused to restore it? David Cannon (talk) 02:52, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The problem is lack of citations. All biographies of living persons created since 2010 must contain at least one citation to a credible external source. If you can provide me with some (or if I can find at least one), I'll restore the article for you. David Cannon (talk) 02:55, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Rjd0060, apparently it was PRODed and deleted on June 20th, but I only found out now while looking through another article related to a fijian musician ...the discussion took place on wikipedia-en's IRC ..yeah i created it so many years back so not that many info online but it was sourced enough, you can use his official Itunes page or an article on him last year on the samoan observer--Stemoc 02:58, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've restored the page for you and added a couple of citations. :-)

Alliance Party (Fiji)

Hi David. I see you moved this article to Alliance Party. I'm afraid I have moved it back to the (Fiji) title, as I don't believe it is the primary topic for the name. The Alliance Party was the ruling party in Malaysia for 16 years, whilst the Alliance Party of Northern Ireland is currently one of the main parties in Northern Ireland. If you still think it is the primary topic, I'd suggest you use the RM process. Cheers, Number 57 11:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ex Administrator with a break and surprised

Hello Davidcannon,

What a surprise, when someone pointed me to your proposal while I was doing a similar proposal

I'm also around for 11+ years on fr.wiki and also was very surprised by the how wikipedia looks like slow, which with respect to 2004-2008, looks more like completely frozen.

I'm also surprised by the role the administrator took and the posture they have

Would you be interested in contributing to another proposal ?

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it's in french so far, but as soon as I translate it I ping you Xmlizer (talk) 02:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! David Cannon (talk) 10:58, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Country topics

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FYI/update, another user fixed it in responde to my helpdesk query. Woodshed (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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I apologise. Thank you for your advice - I'll take it. I thought the template needed to be fixed, as it was pointing to a redirect (a page that got moved a couple of years ago). I'm sorry I put my foot in it - I should have tested my changes to make sure they were working. David Cannon (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Taito

Re your edit and comment here: At the time the article was written, "Fiji Islander" was the official demonym for a citizen of Fiji; it was not a "pc weasel word", as you put it. Today, calling someone "Fiji Islander" rather than "Fijian" would indeed have a right-wing political connotation, but it's simply that the article was never updated. Kindly refrain from assuming ill intent…
That having been said, thank you for your various updates to articles about Fiji. For a few years, I felt a little bit alone in writing or updating articles about Fiji politics (and sometimes sports or other areas). (And thank you again for all the tireless mass of work you did on Fiji in the first place a few years ago!) Aridd (talk) 10:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for pointing that out, Aridd. You are right — I didn't realize the contributor was you (and I really respect you for your contribution to the Fiji project), and I jumped to conclusions too hastily about what might have motivated whoever wrote that. Yes, it's true, the abrogated 1997 constitution defined all Fiji citizens as Fiji Islanders. I was away for a long time, and sometimes I just don't realize how long some articles have gone without being updated. I apologise for my hasty reaction and will endeavour to be more careful in future. David Cannon (talk) 11:28, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fiji

Thanks for the invite! I added my name to the project page. I do some Wiki Clean up from time to time and I'd been running into a lot of Fiji-related articles. I'll add whatever info I can find. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 04:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

bilateral relations articles

The case of Bangladesh Fiji may be notable but it is wrong to say all relations articles are notable. Hundreds have been deleted which demonstrates no inherent notability. In any case I now agree with your removal of the notability tag on the Bangladesh Fiji article. LibStar (talk) 15:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suva Grammar School

Can I ask for your assistance on this one. Seems like those obsessed with the rugby achievements of former students have taken over the article. LibStar (talk) 16:06, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree, it does look rather unbalanced. Rugby is a huge thing in Fiji, but even so, it makes it look as if that's primarily what the school is known for - NOT a very balanced view at all. I'll try to find out a bit about the school and its history, academic achievements, etc., to even the article up. David Cannon (talk) 12:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
thanks, I understand it's actually one of the top academic schools in Fiji. LibStar (talk) 14:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RFC posted

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Chief Justice of Fiji

Hi, you recently tagged Chief Justice of Fiji, with an edit summary like "needs updating as per 2013 constitution". You may be Wikipedia's top expert on the Fijian Constitution (I am certainly not), so please and go ahead and fix the article yourself (with references) if you are privy to this information. If not, could you please expand the nature of your query at Talk:Chief Justice of Fiji. If you are just complaining about the political situation in Fiji, please remove the tag. Thanks, >MinorProphet (talk) 00:06, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thoughtful tagging of the article. I haven't been keeping with the news recently, too much editing. An all-too-brief search for Fiji in the news turned up nothing (I was probably too specific in my search), hence my unfortunately brusque message. Sorry, I was falling asleep at the time. >MinorProphet (talk) 20:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's okay:-) The reason I tagged the article is that Fiji has undergone great changes since 2006. A new constitution — with which I am not very familiar — has been written. It MAY have redefined the role of the Chief Justice — or it may not have. That's something I will look into, but it may take some time. In the meantime, I was hoping that perhaps some other editor might know more than I do and save me the trouble. But never mind ... David Cannon (talk) 02:18, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox title dispute with another user

Hello. I have recently entered a dispute with Cartakes over the correct naming of former countries (specifically the old imperial dynasties of China) in the top of the article infobox. As it was originally (and I have attempted once to revert this to no avail), the names were simply the period names such as "Sui", "Xia", "Tang" (and on occasion "Great Yuan", "Great Qing", etc.) which are the official state names from the period. However, he has come along and changed them to include the word "dynasty" with the period name in the infobox title which is not the official state name but a common name given by Western culture. I have attempted to talk to him, but he is adamant that I am incorrect. Even looking at the same articles written in Chinese show that the infobox title without the word "dynasty" in it. Our discussion is located in this section on his talk page. Can you please help me resolve this? Nick Mitchell 98 (talk) 13:14, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'll have a look. I am not very familiar with this topic, but will try to go by policy. It might be a good idea to bring the matter up on the talk page(s) of the relevant article(s), and on the project page, if there is one, and allow other users to have their say. But I'll have a look for you:-) David Cannon (talk) 13:18, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indo-Fijian Hindus

You do realise that that the above mentioned Category is very racist right? ..There is no such thing as an ITaukei hindus so the category was better as Fijian Hindus and there was no need to divide it..the term "indo-fijian" is no longer allowed to be used under the 2013 Constitution.--Stemoc 04:14, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry, it's not meant to be racist. Actually, what I'm trying to do is rationalize the Fijian categories, which has to be done consistently. No such thing as iTaukei Hindus — you may be surprised to know that the 2007 census showed a small number of iTaukei converts to Hinduism (several hundred). Admittedly none of them have articles on Wikipedia as yet, but it's at least theoretically possible that there will be some, and the category system should make room for that. Following our neutral point of view, Wikipedia shouldn't be into making a judgement about whether there is ever likely / unlikely to be a need for it.

The category system needs to be consistent, too. For example, the Category:Indo-Fijian Muslims and Category:Indo-Fijian Christians categories will link to international — and India-specific categories about Muslims and Christians (I haven't put the links in yet. I will later — unless somebody else beats me to it). The Category:Indo-Fijian Hindus category will likewise link to international and India-specific categories concerning Hinduism. Keeping it the way it was created a problem : Category:Fijian Hindus itself was a sub-category of Category:Fijian people by religion. This includes other categories that have nothing to do with Indians, so when linked to India-specific categories, that would muddle things up.

I'm uncomfortable with the emotional and political connotations that are so often attached to words like Indo-Fijian. I have Indian friends who have argued vehemently both for and against that term, and other terms. It's not my business to take sides in that debate, and Wikipedia should stick to a neutral point of view and avoid taking sides either. That's partly why I renamed the parent category from Category:Indo-Fijian people to Category:Fijian people of Indian descent (which is also consistent with the way other categories are named — e.g. Category:British people of Indian descent. Wikipedia is trying to rationalize its naming systems for categories, so I'm just trying to follow the system that international categories have. (I had nothing to do with setting that system up, by the way). As for using the term "Indo-Fijian" in other categories, once again I'm just trying to follow the practice of how other categories (specific to other countries) are named. As it stands, the Category:Fijian Hindus category has not been deleted: it still stands as an empty category, but as the parent category it will be an important link to international categories. Just so that you know, what I've done with the category is not a split, it's a diffusion.

I'm also in the process of organizing categories for iTaukei people. Those categories will be inside parent categories that will also include categories related to Indians. NO WAY is this intended as a social/political statement! It's simply so that researchers will be able to access information through streamlined categories — the Indo-Fijian categories will link to global categories about Indian people, the iTaukei categories to global categories about Melanesian /Oceanian people, and both sets of categories to parent categories about Fijian people generally.

Bottom line: these categories are not just about Indians in Fiji. They have to be organized in such a way as to be able to "link" to categories about INDIAN people globally (Hindus, Muslims, Christians, etc), WITHOUT conflating those international categories with topics that have nothing to do with Indians. I will try to find out a bit more about how this is being done project-wide and will follow that pattern. David Cannon (talk) 07:55, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lagi Dyer

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Roscoe C. Martin

No longer an orphan. Feel free to help me find more references. He might be the same academic who taught at Syracuse, but so far I can't find an obituary or career summary, despite his achievements.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:07, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have found some and expanded it. I'll remove the 'under construction' tag later today, as it's become a respectable start.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I see you have put some  nbsp marks in Russian locomotive class TE2. I'm sure you have a reason for this but could you please tell me what they are for? Biscuittin (talk) 13:13, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • NBSP stands for "No-break space." In HTML, the language Web pages are created with, a space is read the same as two, ten, or one hundred spaces. So if you want to put more than one space between two words or two objects on a Web page, you need to use a no-break space. David Cannon (talk) 13:21, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's useful, but why put it before kW? Biscuittin (talk) 15:44, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To ensure that a linebreak does not occur within the string "736 kW", making it harder to read. Maproom (talk) 07:24, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Thank you. Biscuittin (talk) 18:48, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Article About the Village of Musabeyli

You added that the article that i have created doesnt fit the notability guidelines,but i want to correct you. From Wikipedia's Notability Guidelines for Geographical Locations: Populated, legally recognized places are typically considered notable, even if their population is very low. Even abandoned places can remain notable, because notability encompasses their entire history. One exception is that census tracts are usually not considered notable.

It is a populated place in Turkey,so it counts as notable.It is also legally recognized as a village in Turkey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.100.119.57 (talk) 16:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC) Oh sorry,i forgot to log in. KaptaşHero (talk) 17:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see; thank you for correcting me. The tag I added doesn't necessarily mean that the subject isn't notable, only that it may not be. It is meant (a) to alert the creator and any other interested editors to take a second look (which I'm glad you've done), and (b) if necessary, add citations that will validate its notability, or, if it already has that, remove the tag. It's not meant to be a "deletion warrant" for the article, only a head-up that it may be necessary to fill in a few details. It appears that I tagged this one in error, so I'm happy for you to remove the tag:-) David Cannon (talk) 00:09, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You add your comments to pages awaiting for speedy delete, see e.g. Sterling Linder Davis, Gary Striewski.Xx236 (talk) 09:05, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gary striewski.Xx236 (talk) 09:19, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you judge that they ought to be deleted under the relevant criterion, you may surely delete them. If you think that no speedy deletion is warranted, you may remove the db tag. I generally then add {{oldcsd}} to the talk page, and sometimes drop a note on the talk page of the editor who tagged the article or page for speedy deletion. In such a case you might well choose to edit the article or page. If you aren't sure but wish to try to improve a page, or leave a talk page comment for another admin, that is also perfectly fine. There is nothing wrong with leaving comments on such pages, if you judge them worth leaving. However I don't think there is much point in adding maintenance tags to a page tagged with db-author, unless you are going to decline the speedy (generally because there is in fact more than one author) DES (talk) 13:19, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your advice, DES. I ended up deleting the three articles, as the request came from the author personally. But I won't always do that automatically — I'll read each article as it comes. Thanks again for your advice — it's very helpful. David Cannon (talk) 13:28, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Very nice

Wow! It is great to see you editing here once again. One of my original true fiends in Wikipedia. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:22, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hello Tony! Yes, it's great to be back! And it's even greater to see that YOU are still going strong! David Cannon (talk) 05:17, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • By the way my friend, I want to share with you some of the scenes of a PBS documentary which will be televised on Sept. 22, and in which I participated. Click on "watch", I'm the guy with the white cap: http://ontwofrontsmovie.com/ Take care. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Wow Tony, that is SO interesting! Thank you so much, Marine 69-71 for sharing this documentary with me! I was only a small child when these events took place, but I well remember my parents and just about everybody else talking about them. The Latino perspective is one that is not well known, and I hope the sacrifices made by Latinos will get a much better hearing as a result of this documentary. Once again, thank you so much for sharing it. David Cannon (talk) 15:32, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

José Manuel Imbamba

Dearest Davidcannon, thank you to help me in correcting this page.

May I ask your help also in the future? Thanks a lot and have a nice Sunday!

Rei Momo (talk) 06:30, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • By all means! Wikipedia is a collaborative project and we're all here to help one another. Don't hesitate to ask me at any time — if it's something I know about I'll help you, and if not, I'll try to find somebody who can. You have a great Sunday too! David Cannon (talk) 11:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Telangana State Symbols

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Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Big Race

I don't accept you opinion it were a stub, so I demand speedy deletion.Xx236 (talk) 07:00, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Done. But in future, please ask politely. Throwing your weight around with "demands" only creates a tense environment in which we're all trying to get along. The reason why I tagged it rather than deleting it is that I'd rather make the mistake of "passing" an article that shouldn't be there, than delete one that should be. The article was written in a rather stupid way, but for all i knew, there could be a book with that title and the article could, perhaps, have been turned into something better by someone in the know. David Cannon (talk) 07:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry about my language, I'm not a native speaker. I meant that I demanded in general, not from you. Xx236 (talk) 07:28, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I see. All good then :-) David Cannon (talk) 08:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I see you've been going through articles I started. I just wanted to drop by and say thank you. I'm grateful. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I try to always give credit when credit is due. You do good work here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About Johnson_Philip

I notice that you have put together an article about me. However, there are a few factual errors, and kindly correct it.

1. It says I am "Principal of Brethren Theological College at Cochin University". Actually it should be Cochin University PO, where PO stands for Post Office. Alternately, you can drop the name Cochin University and say "Principal of Brethren Theological College in Kerala". BTC has no connection with Cochin University.

2. The article says that I lean towards Arminianism. That is wrong. I am opposed both to strict Calvinism as well as to strict Arminianism, and stand midway to accept some tenets of Calvinism and some of Arminianism.

3. In Academic career "he became the Founding Principal of Brethren Theological College at Cochin University in Kerala.[23]" the phrase Cochin University should be changed to 'Kerala'

I guess that Cochin University PO confuses many who do not know the meaning of PO

I will mention other corrections after these two major errors are corrected

Dr. Johnson C. Philip (talk) 14:14, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you so much, Dr. Johnson C. Philip, for bringing to my attention inaccuracies in your biography. Wikipedia aims for accuracy, and by drawing attention to errors you are doing us a great service. I did try to write an accurate article, Dr Philip, synthesizing information found from numerous sources, but obviously there are things that I misinterpreted. For that I apologise, and will make the necessary connections forthwith. I also look forward to your other corrections. David Cannon (talk) 15:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • P.S. I've now made some (minimal) edits to your biography. I'm still not sure whether the paragraph on Calvinism/Arminianism accurately reflects your views; if not, please advise me further! Moreover, I've added this statement (based on your communication above): "Philip states that he stands mid-way between Calvinism and Arminianism, accepting some tenets of both theological systems." I'm wondering whether you can direct me to a published source (either online or in print) in which your mid-way position is set out. I ask this because everything in Wikipedia is supposed to be verifiable and linked to reliable sources. I've put the statement in anyway, but I'd love to have a source so that it cannot be challenged. Once again, I look forward to hearing what other corrections need to be made. David Cannon (talk) 15:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Dear David, thank you very much for the correction you made. Now it reflects things more accurately. As to my midway stand on Calvinism/Arminianism, I will send some citation very soon. Thanks for this article on me. Till today I was unaware of its existence. God bless you! Dr. Johnson C. Philip (talk) 16:24, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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need information about marjah operation

Need information about marjah operation I was linguist in helmand USA marine corps. Hasamudin (talk) 13:46, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Attorneys General of the Leeward Islands

Hi David- I will have a good look to see if anything worthwhile can be done on the above, but I can give a few more names from an initial google search viz.

  • c.1711 Thomas Bretton
  • c.1790 John Stanley
  • c.1810 John Burke
  • c.1820 Paul Horsford

The political history of Leeward Islands is very messy. They seem to have appeared in several incarnations over the centuries, by and large between 1671 and 1960. But I like this sort of challenge and will put a stub together over the next few days. Maybe others can then add to it. RegardsPlucas58 (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! I'll look forward to it. Initially, anything is better than nothing! David Cannon (talk) 01:48, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Huh? I've only just created the page — splitting it off from another article. I'm still in the process of formatting it. I'm not sure what you're talking about, but thanks for letting me know anyway :-) David Cannon (talk) 11:46, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well done on noticing that extraneous }} Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 11:58, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks — those braces and brackets can drive me mad at times! David Cannon (talk) 12:02, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Lucky he wasn't as busy as the duke of Wellington eh! Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 12:10, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you

Thank you for all the spelling fixes. I will try harder to proof my writing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:13, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • You're welcome, Anna! That's what the wiki idea is for — everybody pitches in to contribute, clean up, etc. We're all here to help one another. Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. David Cannon (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

paraphrase

hi dear friend. could you please paraphrase; "It provides the young child with an introduction to books and the Peter Rabbit universe." thanks more info [1] Alborzagros (talk) 10:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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Royal Flying Doctor Service of Australia

Hi David, your edit to that article didn't fix a typo at all because of the word "there" after "based, so I've undone the major part of it (while keeping the AWB fixes). Graham87 14:44, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you Graham. Another problem with the article, which I don't know how to fix, is the cite error (citation number 8). I've been coming across quite a few of these —I tried fixing a couple of them and made a bigger mess than ever, so I'm leaving them alone for now. But perhaps you could fix that one for me (assuming you know how), and I'll watch and learn how it is done. Thanks :-) David Cannon (talk) 00:29, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've fixed that one by updating the URL and compacting the ref. The old URL also had brackets in it, which could have been changed to %5B and %5C to make it work, but that wasn't necessary. (P.s. I didn't get your notification because you notified the user with the username Graham, instead of me, Graham87. I only got this message because I noticed your message on the RFA talk page, and wondered why the talk link in your signature had been marked as visited on my computer). Graham87 12:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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any idea?

youre brave editing indonesian arts - there more errors in there than you or any other ed has had breakfasts

at category 1920's in Dutch East Indies there is a rather false set of red link dates 1950s to 2000's

the coding is for the template; EstcatCountryDecade|19|2|20th|the Dutch East Indies|Dutch East Indies

any idea how to get it to stop at the 40s or does it stay regardless...

JarrahTree 11:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I have lost the category page, I had found it and it must have been something like decades. I am about to leave computer for a while for a cup of tea, will try to get back to it, please ignore this any further at the moment. Will write my issue off as had it but lost it, in more ways than one. Thanks for your responses. cheers JarrahTree 11:25, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Never found it - but very impressed by your consistent effort through Indonesian articles, thank you. JarrahTree 11:10, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You're most welcome! I'm only scratching the surface — not even that. Many Indonesian articles are appallingly formatted. As I said, I'm only fixing what I know how to do — I've been belted in the eye too many times for mistakes I've made, so I have to be cautious about what I do. Still, if I do a little, and everybody else does a little, the job will get done. David Cannon (talk) 11:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request for adminship

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Fiji Football League

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Thanks

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I want to appreciate your support and immense contributions in that thread. I appreciate the confidence you have in me and I'm deeply sorry to disappoint you. It has never occurred to me that my user page could be used against me among other concerns although some irrelevant issues where raised but I will take them as constructive criticisms. I won't allow that to discourage me and I will continue my good work here. Hope I can reach out to you for assistance in the future? With kind regards, Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 20:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Okay, Chris troutman, I'll take note. You are right; my own RFA was indeed in a different era. That was an era where we generally were more than willing to give one another the benefit of the doubt. I also recall that in 2005-2006 or so, we had about 50-60 RFA's a month. I took a long break from Wikipedia; apart from a handful of brief appearances, I was away for about 8 years. When I came back this year, I found that the RFA system had become a lot more cut-throat (from my point of view). Perhaps that is why the number of admins has hardly changed since 2007 — even though the number of articles has increased 5-fold. I must admit that I liked it a lot better the old way. However, your point is taken. I DO accept the need for competence, and will bear that in mind in future. David Cannon (talk) 13:34, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you very much, Anna. Your kindness and encouragement mean a great deal to me. David Cannon (talk) 01:24, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Queensland horses

Hi David, concerning to your article about Queenslander houses in Australia, there is one question: Is there any connection to India in the development of this type of Architekturen? Mans thanks Hajo hjduroi@gmx.de — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.110.47.67 (talk) 17:24, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question about adminship

I saw you were listed as someone who was willing to consider nominating candidates for adminship. I would like to know if you felt I would be worthy of a nomination, when you have a chance, and if not, where you feel I could improve to be a better candidate. Being a user and editor of Wikipedia for close to 10 years (with a few breaks thrown in), I feel that I would have a lot to offer as admin, namely patience, a level head, and the ability to help resolve conflict when needed. Wildthing61476 (talk) 20:33, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm more than willing to have a look at your work, Wildthing61476 and nominate you if all looks well. But in the interests of full disclosure, it's been only a few days since I got roundly criticized for making a nomination that I thought was suitable — but many of the others didn't. Like you, I've been part of Wikipedia for a long time (since 2004, in fact), but was mostly away from 2007 until recently. In the meantime, the culture of the project has changed, and I'm still trying to familiarize myself with the way things stand now. What the community expects of admins has changed too, apparently. As I said, I'll have a look at your work, and most probably be eager to nominate you. But I fear that it's a bit too soon after that last fiasco for me to safely nominate anybody — people will jump to conclusions about me being the nominator, and vote oppose. So the options are these: Either wait a month or two, and then let me nominate you, or find somebody else to nominate you now, and I'll vote for you. How about that?David Cannon (talk) 01:19, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings from the top

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Teodoro Andal Agoncillo

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Keesing's

Hi Davidcannon, you should have received an email from me regarding your request for access to Keesing's - could you please either complete the form linked from that email or email me if you did not receive it? Nikkimaria (talk) 13:27, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto for Newspaperarchive.com. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto JSTOR. Note that for that one in particular, since there are more applicants than there are accounts, not responding will result in someone else being assigned your slot. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Nikkimaria. Thank you for alerting me. My apologies, I lost all your (and everybody's) emails in a computer accident recently. I deleted everything by mistake. Please send me the form again — especially for Keesings and Newspaperarchive. Jstor will be useful to me later on, but is not such a high priority at the moment, so I don't mind if you let somebody else have a go in the meantime. But the other two, yes, I'm very keen. I'll resend this message via e-mail in case this fails to reach you. Thanks! David Cannon (talk) 02:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, I've re-sent the Newspaperarchive and Keesing's emails. Per your comment here I'm going to strike your JSTOR approval - feel free to reapply later if it will be more helpful then. Were there any other TWL resources you applied to that you're now missing emails for? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:10, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dash correction

Your recent edit summaries read "replaced hyphen with m-dash" when what you have actually (and correctly) done is to replace a hyphen by an n-dash. It would be helpful if you can indicate this correctly in future. Thanks! Peter coxhead (talk) 18:28, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Peter! Thank you for the heads-up. I was mistaken —I thought "n-dash" was just another name for "hyphen" and that "m-dash" was what you've just told me is "n-dash". Thanks to you, I'll get that right from now on :-) By the way, are you the same Peter Coxhead I know from church and Facebook, by any chance? David Cannon (talk) 02:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not the same Peter Coxhead, as I live in the UK. However, I know from some research into my family history that although "Coxhead" is a very rare surname in the UK, it is much more common in New Zealand. We are all probably distantly related. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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E: must be or have been an admin
F: must currently be an admin
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  • Q#9. For potential arbs, good indicators of the right kind of contributions outside noticeboard activity, would be:
A: discussions on the talkpages of articles which ARE subject to ArbCom sanctions
B: discussions on the talkpages of articles NOT subject to ArbCom restrictions
C: sending talkpage notifications e.g. with Twinkle, sticking to formal language
D: sending talkpage notifications manually, and explaining with informal English
E: working on policies/guidelines
F: working on essays/helpdocs
G: working on GA/FA/DYK/similar content
H: working on copyedits/infoboxes/pictures/similar content
I: working on categorization e.g. with HotCat
J: working on autofixes e.g. with AWB or REFILL
K: working with other Wikipedians via wikiprojects e.g. with MILHIST
L: working with other Wikipedians via IRC e.g. with #wikipedia-en-help connect or informally
M: working with other Wikipedians via email e.g. with UTRS or informally
N: working with other Wikipedians in person e.g. at edit-a-thons / Wikipedian-in-residence / Wikimania / etc
O: other types of contribution, please specify in your comments
Please specify a comma-separated list of the types of contributions you see as positive indicators for arb-candidates to have.
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  • Q#10. Arbs who make many well-informed comments at these noticeboards (please specify which!) have the right kind of background, or experience, for ArbCom.
Options: A: AE, B: arbCases, C: LTA, D: OTRS, E: AN,
continued: F: OS/REVDEL, G: CU/SPI, H: AN/I, I: pageprot, J: NAC,
continued: K: RfC, L: RM, M: DRN, N: EA, O: 3o,
continued: P: NPOVN, Q: BLPN, R: RSN, S: NORN, T: FTN,
continued: U: teahouse, V: helpdesk, W: AfC, X: NPP, Y: AfD,
continued: 1: UAA, 2: COIN, 3: antiSpam, 4: AIV, 5: 3RR,
continued: 6: CCI, 7: NFCC, 8: abusefilter, 9: BAG, 0: VPT,
continued: Z: Other_noticeboard_not_listed_here_please_wikilink_your_answer
Please specify a comma-separated list of the noticeboards you see as important background-experience for arb-candidates to have.
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  • Q#11. Arbs who make many comments at these noticeboards (please specify!) have the wrong kind of temperament, or personality, for ArbCom.
Options: (same as previous question -- please see above)
Please specify a comma-separated list of the noticeboards you see as worrisome personality-indicators for arb-candidates to have.
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renaming Anti-corruption campaign in China

hi. please see the discussion here. just want to get a bit more consensus before changing name. Happy monsoon day 21:45, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

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To You and Yours!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:29, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merger discussion for Japan foreign marriage

An article that you have been involved in editing—Japan foreign marriage —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. 78.148.77.86 (talk) 14:44, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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