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    The Spam-whitelist page is used in conjunction with the Mediawiki SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that override Meta's blacklist and the local spam-blacklist. Any administrator can edit the spam whitelist. Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions (web pages to unblock), Proposed removals (sites to reblock), or Troubleshooting and problems; read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. See also MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Please enter your requests at the bottom of the Proposed additions to Whitelist section and not at the very bottom of the page. Sign your requests with four tildes: ~~~~

    Also in your request, please include the following:

    1. The link that you want whitelisted in the section title, like === example.com/help/index.php === .
    2. The Wikipedia page on which you want to use the link
    3. An explanation why it would be useful to the encyclopedia article proper
    4. If the site you're requesting is listed at /Common requests, please include confirmation that you have read the reason why requests regarding the site are commonly denied and that you still desire to proceed with your request

    Important: You must provide a full link to the specific web page you want to be whitelisted (leave out the http:// from the front; otherwise you will not be able to save your edit to this page). Requests quoting only a domain (i.e. ending in .com or similar with nothing after the / character) are likely to be denied. If you wish to have a site fully unblocked please visit the relevant section of MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Note: Do not request links to be whitelisted where you can reasonably suspect that the material you want to link to is in violation of copyright (see WP:LINKVIO). Such requests will likely be summarily rejected.

    There is no automated notification system in place for the results of requests, and you will not be notified when your request has a response. You should therefore add this page to your personal watch list, to your notifications through the subscribe feature, or check back here every few days to see if there is any progress on it; in particular, you should check whether administrators have raised any additional queries or expressed any concerns about the request, as failure to reply to these promptly will generally result in the request being denied.

    Completed requests are archived, additions and removal are logged. →snippet for logging: {{/request|774435343#section_name}}

    Note that requests from new or unregistered users are not usually considered.

    Admins: Use seth's tool to search the spamlists.

    Indicators
    Request completed:
     Done {{Done}}
     Stale {{StaleIP}}
     Request withdrawn {{withdrawn}}
    Request declined:
    no Declined {{Declined}}
     Not done {{Notdone}}
    Information:
     Additional information needed {{MoreInfo}}
    information Note: {{TakeNote}}



    Notice to everyone about our Reliable sources and External links noticeboards

    If you have a source that you would like to add to the spam-whitelist, but you are uncertain that it meets Wikipedia's guideline on reliability, please ask for opinions on the Reliable sources noticeboard, to confirm that it does meet that guideline, before submitting your whitelisting request here. In your request, link to the confirming discussion on that noticeboard.

    Likewise, if you have an external link that you are uncertain meets Wikipedia's guideline on external links, please get confirmation on the External links noticeboard before submitting your whitelisting request here.

    If your whitelist request falls under one of these two categories, the admins will be more willing to have the source whitelisted if you can achieve consensus at one of the above noticeboards.

    Proposed additions to Whitelist (web pages to unblock)


    Volpaia.info

    This is a website about a village/winery, but the page at http://www.volpaia.info/della_volpaia.htm has useful information which I hoped to add as a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girolamo_della_Volpaia, which is currently being discussed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Girolamo_della_Volpaia. I've commented out the ref for now, to be able to save the rest of my edit, but would like to include it.

    -- PamD 12:54, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @PamD: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:07, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    Asianbeat.com

    The link contains an interview with the artist Maon Kurosaki; I need to use the link as a citation in a section in her article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 16:08, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:06, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    yourstory.com

    The link contains and interview of Ayaan Chawla for which I've to use it as reference. An important resource for Ewe language speakers, learners, teachers and enthusiasts.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinay089 (talk • contribs)

    @Vinay089: You want to use it for Ayaan Chawla? That article does not exist, and has been repeatedly deleted through a deletion discussion. Do you have a reasonable draft in the Draft namespace - showing where and what it is needed for (just put it there as a reference without the http:// in front of it). I will decline this as long as there is not a reasonable draft that has a reasonable chance to get into mainspace, or there is direct use in a mainspace article. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:06, 20 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: It's better that you should first try to read the article and search online for whom you're talking about and I'm covering the article. May I know what's the reason to blacklist a Media website? -- Vinay089 (talk) 06:22, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Vinay089: All I am saying is that I want first to see at least a draft of the article here on Wikipedia. We are not whitelisting links for which we do not (yet) have a place on Wikipedia. I am not going to research the internet to find whether the link is reasonable to whitelist, you should show that a) the article has merit, and b) that the link has merit in said article (and those two things may be related).
    Regarding the reason for blacklisting yourstory.com - it was abused. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:36, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    no Declined, no rationale given for whitelisting, target article doesn't exist. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:42, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    womanitely.com

    The website was aggressively spammed by unknown people and was added to the blacklist. I requested global and then local removals, but eventually was notified to write a request on MediaWiki Spam whitelist. womanitely.com is a reliable website that has never been added to any blacklists, except Wikipedia. Could you please provide the information oh how to remove womanitely.com from the blacklist and add to the whitelist?

    Catalina520 (talk) 09:19, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Catalina520: The website will not be blanket whitelisted (for the same reason that we will not remove the blacklisting). The blog fails our inclusion standards both for external links (see Wikipedia:External links) and for referencing (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources), both just by nature of the website: it is a blog. As such, blanket whitelisting is no Declined.
    If you have specific use (that is, a specific document on your server that is of use on one specific page here on Wikipedia), then you can ask for whitelisting of that one link. If we see a multitude of granted whitelisting requests, then we can consider to remove blacklisting/grant blanket whitelisting.
    So basically: on which specific Wikipedia page do you want to add which specific womanitely post, and why do you think that that womanitely post should/could be used? --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    We don't aim to add any links from Womanitely to Wikipedia, and we don't strive to promote the blog on Wikipedia. I have no idea who added the links that led to spam and I have no idea where to find and how to remove those links (I'm a new user here). Perhaps, you already did it. We just don't want it to be blacklisted.

    Catalina520 (talk) 12:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Catalina520: I can understand that you don't want to be blacklisted, but the reason we have a spam blacklist is to make sure that people are not spamming links to Wikipedia. However, that is what is (well, was) happening - multiple IPs were only adding links to womanitely (in other words, they were spamming), and that is what we protect Wikipedia from.
    The spammed links have been removed. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:52, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    It's good that they were removed. How can the blog be removed from the blacklist? We ensure it won't happen in the future as we'll be monitoring every link leading to womanitely.com. We didn't do it in the past, but the lesson is learnt. Catalina520 (talk) 13:06, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Catalina520: if you are so sure that you didn't do it in the past (in other words; 'it was someone else that we do not have any control over'), how can you then be sure that it won't happen in the future? --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:12, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    We're going to monitor backlinks. The thing is many other people, blogs and websites refer to womanitely so we've never paid too much attention to it. we have over 2k backlinks. If there's any other way to monitor the links to the blog on Wikipedia, please let me know. I'm new here, barely learnt how to leave requests and messages here. Catalina520 (talk) 13:19, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Who is this "we" you keep referring to? ~Anachronist (talk) 21:26, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Anachronist: Catalina520 more or less confesses that they are the owner of the site here, and seem to be convinced that all spamming that we observed is not their doing. That is all possible, but still no reason for us to remove the site from the spam blacklist, nor to blanket whitelist the site. If we can be convinced that specific documents on the site can be of use on specific pages here on Wikipedia, we will consider to whitelist those specific links, for the rest, I remain that this is no Declined. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:31, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed, this page isn't for blanket whitelisting, it's for white-listing specific individual pages. ~Anachronist (talk) 05:09, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Just adding a note that Catalina520 removed Anachronist's most recent comment. - MrOllie (talk) 13:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Dirk Beetstra what do you mean by "specific documents"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catalina520 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Catalina520: in case of a blog: a specific blog post, or maybe a specific user profile. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:36, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    yourstory.com (2nd request)

    Why? I am writing an article about Music schools in India and using this as a reference which mentions briefly about the business side of Music schools. Although, the reference is very brief, it is necessary to support the point I am stating there.

    Note: The site was blocked in October 2015 for userspace misuse. To not completely remove the reference, I have changed the url on my user draft from yourstory to urstory for now. I will fix it if, and when, this request is granted. Thank you! Yashovardhan (talk) 18:23, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    no Declined. @Yashovardhan Dhanania: There are unblocked alternatives that support the same assertion you're making in your draft article, such as http://muvsi.in/education-business-ideas/ so why not use that instead? ~Anachronist (talk) 21:39, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Anachronist: thanks a lot! Will use the alternative instead. Yashovardhan (talk) 02:16, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Kink.com

    It is impossible to save an edit to Kink.com because the article includes the name kink.com. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 15:30, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @MShabazz: per /Common requests#About, we would need an about-page or a full url (including an index.htm) of the index page. Can you please provide a suitable link? --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:20, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello Dirk Beetstra. Despite ten years of experience and more than 100,000 edits, I have no idea what you just wrote. I want to revert the last edit to Kink.com because it added a spam link, but I can't save the page because evidently kink.com is on the blacklist. Can you please help? The big pink message above the edit box said I should ask here for the site to be whitelisted. I really don't care about blacklists or whitelists, I just want to revert a bad edit to a page on my watchlist. Maybe as an administrator you can perform the reversion. Thank you. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 18:48, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @MShabazz: Bacisally, you will not be able to plain revert anymore, as the revid includes links that should not be linked. It will only be possible to revert if the links that are in the to-be-saved version are whitelisted. Here, that is the main domain, which is generally problematic, because it is generally the exact link that is being spammed/abused. We therefore ask to give us an about-page, which we will whitelist, and from now on the page will need to use the about-us page.
    I have adapted the link above (note that from my resident country I am not even allowed to go to this page), and will whitelist in the next edit, and make the necessary adaptations to the current version of the document. If you wish to revert to an older version of the document, you will have to make sure that before you save, you replace the 'offending' links. Thanks. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:24, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @MShabazz: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:25, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, Dirk Beetstra, for whitelisting the appropriate page and for replacing the spam links in the article with the correct website. I really appreciate your help. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 06:44, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @MShabazz: Note that I blacklisted the spam links, they were redirects which did not seem really sound (contained a highly encoded intermediate). --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:06, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    SkyscraperCity.com

    The link in question contains the only known extant online copy (that I can find of) of an article I cited for Iloilo International Airport which had since been taken offline. The newspaper's official online archive doesn't go back to 2005 and I currently am unable to find an offline copy despite such a copy existing somewhere, so I was hoping to put this on the whitelist in the meantime. (Also, why is SSC on the blacklist in the first place? I mean I know they had a spam problem, but not anymore, right?) --Sky Harbor (talk) 03:26, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    @Sky Harbor: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:36, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Sky Harbor: Oops, forgot to answer your question: it was blacklisted per MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/March_2016#skyscrapercity.com. And now I am thinking of it, are you referring now to an online copy of a newspaper article that has been reposted on a forum? Would the original newspaper allow this copy (see WP:COPYRIGHT)? --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:38, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

    Change.org Petition

    I understand that Change.org petitions are generally prohibited from use as sources on Wikipedia. However, I am writing an article on #AmINext, a hashtag campaign and associated petition. This Change.org petition is the main form of communication the founder used to communicate with participants of the campaign because Twitter did not allow her to post messages longer than 120 characters. This petition and its associated message board is the only source that contains information from the founder about her motivation for creating the hashtag campaign and its personal significance to her. This message board also includes information on the founder's activist actions following the viral campaign and the response of the government that was not reported on by mainstream media.
    Thank you, jrseidm (talk) 01:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jordyn.seidman: First note, petitions are not blocked because they are not suitable as sources, they are blocked because of soapboxing abuse. This petition is open.
    On which page would this link need to be included? And you say that this is the only source of information - which makes me wonder whether it is relevant for Wikipedia (the petition is running for 3 years, and there are no independent reports reporting about it?). You seem to only want to primary source the information. The material you you (want to) include should be referenced by the message board posts, not by the general petition. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:30, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Beetstra: I would like to clarify. I have lots of secondary sources about the campaign itself, but no reporting was done on the founder's activist work following the campaign. Are you saying I should ask for the link to the message board post(s) to be whitelisted instead of the petition itself?
    Thank you, jrseidm (talk) 15:29, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jordyn.seidman: I do have the feeling that that is a more direct reference for the info you want to include. Which article is this going to go on? --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:11, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    Screwed up the ping: @Jordyn.seidman:. --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:12, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]


    @Beetstra: here are the two message board links that are relevant to my article. The information on these message boards is going to be used for the #AmINext article. I have been working on a draft for this article in my sandbox, so it will not be exactly like the article on the official article page.
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: change.org/p/hon-kellie-leitch-minister-for-the-status-of-women-call-a-public-inquiry-into-hundreds-of-missing-and-murdered-aboriginal-women-like-my-cousin-loretta-saunders/u/7987190
    • Link requested to be whitelisted: change.org/p/hon-kellie-leitch-minister-for-the-status-of-women-call-a-public-inquiry-into-hundreds-of-missing-and-murdered-aboriginal-women-like-my-cousin-loretta-saunders/u/17127938
    —jrseidm (talk) 02:24, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jordyn.seidman: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:49, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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