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Thank you

As an 89-year-old, I’ve been revising the Old age article and am just beginning work on “life expectancy.” Thanks for catching errors I would have missed. I’d appreciate your checking all my edits and, if you’re interested in old age, offering suggestions. Vejlefjord (talk) 17:20, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The variations between life expectancy should be expanded on, both in regard to the present situation and how this has changed over time. Most parts of the world have seen massive increases in life expectancy, but some parts of sub-Saharan Africa, eg. Zimbabwe have seen falls in their life expectancies, due to the AIDS epidemic. Russia and Eastern Europe have the largest differences between male and female life expectancies, partly due to the high male suicide rates there.

Another improvement to the article could include how the elders are the leaders of their communities in some rural parts of the developing and underdeveloped world.

It's difficult to decide which information should be added to the old age article, what should be on the life expectancy article etc. Jim Michael (talk) 21:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Problems on the Death of Mark Duggan page

Jim, in this edit you call the subject of the article an "irresponsible, overbreeding, gun-toting, convicted criminal" and ignore the talk page provided for discussion of the issue. If this is the kind of language you choose to express yourself it will oviously be difficult to edit with neutrality. -Darouet (talk) 16:39, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The section on the talk page so far supports not having the 'unarmed' category, my removal was supporting the consensus on the talk page, not going against it. I've not ignored anything - I have joined discussions on the talk page, including the one concerning the cat in question. The cat was removed previously by someone else. If he truly were unarmed, then armed police would not have been following him. Duggan was shot because he was armed, so it is ridiculous to claim that he was unarmed. There are many people trying to paint Duggan as an innocent family man who was killed by the police for no real reason, whereas the truth of the matter is that he made a completely free choice to collect a gun from Kevin Hutchinson-Foster minutes before Duggan was shot. That Duggan threw the gun seconds before he was shot did not make him unarmed. He also made a free choice to routinely associate with known gang members, something which innocent people tend not to do. Duggan collecting a gun from drug dealer KHF minutes before his death totally discredits the case of his family and supporters that he was only a minor offender or that he had turned his back on crime. Jim Michael (talk) 17:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summaries like that do not help. Please refrain. Widefox; talk 21:07, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Bogotá

(→‎Climate: Bogotá doesn't have winter)... Is this city in some mythical land where there are only three seasons? What do they call the period from 21 December to 20 March? Can you find me a location without a summer, I would so love to move there. (note: I did not revert or anything, just found the rationale amusing)--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 17:47, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're using the astronomical description of summer, which is not relevant when describing climate. It is four degrees latitude away from the equator; it doesn't have a cold/cool season, it is warm year-round - look at the climate chart, the average temperature of each month is virtually the same. I don't know why you think that everywhere in the world has four climactic seasons. Some parts of the world have two seasons, wet and dry - an example of this is Jakarta. Some parts of the world have no seasons - for example Singapore, which is hot and wet every month. Most of Antarctica and most of Greenland are covered with ice continously - hence they don't have summer, they have a cold season and an extremely cold season. I don't know why you'd want to move to somewhere that is continously frozen! Jim Michael (talk) 18:24, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

April 2014

Hello, I'm Tutelary. I wanted to let you know that some of your recent contributions to Rubin Carter have been reverted or removed because they could be seen to be defamatory or libellous. Take a look at our welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Tutelary (talk) 11:38, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know why you have wrongly templated me. I have been a regular good contributor for years, editing most days. Defamation and libel can only be committed against living people; Carter is dead. BLP and its subsections, such as BLPCRIME only apply to living people. Carter's violent criminality is undisputed; the only dispute is whether or not he committed a triple murder. As I said in my edit summary, he was a serious convicted criminal from age 11 until he died, and would still have been even if he had never been accused of the triple murder. I have never said that he was a murderer. As he has unquashed convictions and he was a public figure for decades, I would not have violated BLPCRIME even if he had not died. Jim Michael (talk) 13:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It still applies. See WP:BDP for proof of this. At least a minimum of 6 months. Tutelary (talk) 14:34, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Canberra. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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A warning from the only person opposing me, the only person in an edit war with me, is inappropriate. You're reverting my factual improvements. I'll reply on Talk:Canberra. See Koeppen climate classification for how to describe climates. Moscow and Calgary have continental climates; Canberra does not. Twice today you've falsely stated that it is my opinion that Canberra has an oceanic climate (not continental), when it is fact. Jim Michael (talk) 12:18, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The article clearly states this event's notability. It is a highly publicised disappearance which is the Metropolitan Police's biggest investigation since 7/7. Jim Michael (talk) 03:05, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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October 2014

Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:Katy Perry. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Chamith (talk) 13:46, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have never vandalised and none of my edits 'appear to be vandalism'. Jim Michael (talk) 21:11, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Don't delete speedy tag

Hi, I suggest you to don't delete speedy tag, as you did on Stand Up to Cancer UK. You are not administrator to do so; if you keep doing this, you might get blocked for disruptive edition. Karlhard ^{(talk to me)} 01:13, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That is vandalism, and look that it's not the first time you do it. I will refer you to an admin to examine your case. Karlhard ^{(talk to me)} 01:16, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The speedy tag was placed there wrongly; it is not eligible for speedy deletion. It is not vandalism to remove it; it is only the creator who may not remove it. Removing the notice is not an 'admin-only privilege'. If you think it should be deleted, take it to WP:AFD. Jim Michael (talk) 01:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Barcelona#Climate

Your new changes are controversial. According to Wikipedia:CYCLE: first discussion and consensus, later changes. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 23:54, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing controversial about correcting 'warm' to hot in regard to Barcelona's climate. The Barcelona article only mentions one type of climate classification, Koeppen, which states it clearly has a hot-summer Mediterranean climate, not warm-summer. Saying that another classification system doesn't consider it to have hot summers, without mentioning that system or providing a reference in the article, is bizarre. If you want to challenge Vladimir Koeppen's classification of Barcelona's climate, you'll need a reliable source for that. You're the only person challenging my correction; the burden of proof is on you. Jim Michael (talk) 00:39, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, you wrong. Your new changes are controversial:

Köppen Climate Classification is not the only
"The Barcelona article only mentions one type of climate classification, Koeppen" - because rest there is in separate article: Climate of Barcelona. If the doubt, we remove Koeppen from main article about city, because for detailed climate data is place here: Climate of Barcelona.
Barcelona has only two months with warm or at most very warm (but not hot) temperatures: July and August (27.5 and 28.0*C (official data). Rest of months are not very warm and at all hot.
term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" "(Csa)" does not mean that city has whole hot summer. This is only term, Köppen use this to division of Mediterranean climate into two parts. "Hot-summer" is type of Mediterranean climate according to Köppen Climate Classification and does not mean that any city generally has hot summers. "Hot-summer" is type of Mediterranean climate and is not synonymous of "Hot-summer" city. You mislead two different concepts.

Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 17:22, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It would be ridiculous to remove climate info from Barcelona. An article on the climate does not mean that the main article should not include a summary. Barcelona's summers are hot, not warm. Four months are hot (not warm): June, July, August and September. May and October are warm. Warm summers are what London (Cfb), Vancouver (Csb), Paris (Cfb), Amsterdam (Cfb) etc. have. Your claim that a location being classified as having a hot-summer Mediterranean climate does not mean it has hot summers is ludicrous. That's like saying that just because a location is classified as having a polar climate, it doesn't mean it's cold, or that a location having a desert climate doesn't mean it's dry! Jim Michael (talk) 17:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"It would be ridiculous to remove climate info from Barcelona. An article on the climate does not mean that the main article should not include a summary" - no, remove information by Koppen is as the most reasonable. Koppen is only one of few climate classifications. There is no need to favor only one, not to mention the POV.
"Barcelona's summers are hot, not warm. Warm summers are what London (Cfb), Vancouver (Csb), Paris (Cfb), Amsterdam (Cfb) etc (.......)" - this is ludicrous. Hot summers are what Nicosia, Kuwait City, Marrakesh etc, with temperatures of 37*C or more, for example Las Vegas (40*C). Temperatures of 27-28*C (in two warmest months of summer in Barcelona) are hot? the more stupid things I have not heard. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 17:46, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What I've said is how experts such as Wladimir Koeppen classified climate. Your claim that hot starts at 37C is not shared by any climatologists; I don't know why you think that. The Trewartha climate classification categorises Barcelona's climate as Csak. A 22C 24 hour average in the hottest month is the threshold for hot in Koeppen, and 23C 24 hour average is the threshold for Trewartha. Jim Michael (talk) 18:03, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Again: Koeppen divided Mediterranean climate into two groups, "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" "(Csa)" is one of two groups. Just enough. Term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" does not mean hot summer generally in city. This is only hot summer version of Mediterranean climate, not hot summer version of all climate types (including tropical, desert, equatorial climate etc).

And again: Köppen Climate Classification is not the only

Where I wrote "hot starts at 37C"? It was just an example to show the gap between Barcelona and hot summers in other cities. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 18:18, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Mediterranean climate is split into three subtypes in Koeppen, separated by whether the summer is hot, warm or cool (Csa, Csb and Csc). Csa is the hot-summer version of the Mediterranean climate, that means it's the subtype of the Mediterranean climate which has hot summers. You wrote that hot summers are what Nicosia, Kuwait City, Marrakesh etc, with temperatures of 37*C or more ...... . They do all have hot summers, but none of them have a Mediterranean climate, because they are all too dry to be classified that way. They all have significantly hotter summers than Barcelona, but that doesn't mean that Barcelona's summers aren't hot. Koeppen and Trewartha both classify Barcelona as having hot summers (Csa and Csak respectively). You haven't suggested any climate classification system which doesn't regard Barcelona's summers as hot. Moscow's winters are much colder than Warsaw's, but we don't say that Warsaw's winters aren't cold or that winters have to be as cold as Moscow's to be classed as cold. Barcelona and Nicosia both have hot summers; Warsaw and Moscow both have cold winters. Jim Michael (talk) 23:18, 12 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Csc?????
it does not matter how many subgroups, cs-"a" to "z" or only cs-a, cs-b; to this topic it does not matter.
You wrote "Nicosia, Kuwait City, Marrakesh etc, with temperatures of 37*C or more ...... . They do all have hot summers, but none of them have a Mediterranean climate" - according to map of Koeppen, Nicosia (and whole Cyprus) lies within Mediterranean zone, so.
You wrote "They all have hotter summers than Barcelona, but that doesn't mean that Barcelona's summers aren't hot" - it works both ways, they all (Paris, Warsaw etc) have significantly cooler summers than Barcelona, but that doesn't mean that Barcelona's summers are hot.
You wrote "Moscow's winters are much colder than Warsaw's, but we don't say that Warsaw's winters aren't cold or that winters have to be as cold as Moscow's to be classed as cold" - it works both ways. Paris's winters are much colder than Barcelona and both have warm summers; Paris and Barcelona both have mild winters.
Your thinking is illogical, "warm summer", "hot summer" (as a description, not to be confused with term by Koeppen's Mediterranean climates) - this is general concepts, independent of types of climate (temperate, subtropical, tropical or other). If in June there is 25*C, June is warm - independent of types of climate, no matter whether it's temperate climate or tropical climate or invented names created for Koeppen climate classification. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 16:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Most important for dessert: term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" "(Csa)" is invented names created for Koeppen climate classification. Nothing more. Term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" does not mean that city has whole hot summers. For example Barcelona, only July and August meets the requirements of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" by Koeppen (Daily mean °C is 24-25*C) but rest months - not. July and August are hot only for Koeppen climate classification, for rest climate classifications - not. June or September in Barcelona are warm, not hot for all climate classifications (also for Koeppen climate classification) - (Daily mean °C is 22*C). Term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" "(Csa)" by Koeppen climate classification there is no law to mean that whole summer is hot because it is a clean lie. Also Koeppen climate classification nowhere says that Barcelona or other have hot summers. Nowhere. Koeppen climate classification only qualified these areas for term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" "(Csa)". Nothing more. If "X climate classification" divide global climate into two groups, for example: "climate of warm summer" and "climate of cold summer" and Mediterranean basin get into the group of "climate of warm summer", does not automatically mean that Nicosia in Cyprus (Mediterranean Sea) have warm summers. This is the only qualification for a particular group, nothing more. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 17:12, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Csc classification in Koeppen, although it exists only in very small areas at very high altitude. It is a cool-summer Mediterranean climate and is far less common than Csa and Csb.

The Koeppen world map's scale is not detailed enough to see all the boundaries between climates. Nicosia has a hot semi-arid climate. It's rainfall is too low for it to be classified as having a Mediterranean climate.

You said that Paris and Barcelona both have warm summers and mild winters. However, Barcelona has hot summers and mild winters; Paris has warm summers and cool winters. They're very different types of climate (Csa and Cfb). The main reason that Spain is a very popular holiday destination for people from the UK, Germany, Netherlands etc is its climate. The only parts of Spain that don't have hot summers are the north coast and the high ground. Warsaw and Moscow have the same type of climate (warm summers, cold winters; humid continental; Dfb, yet the winters are significantly colder in Moscow which is why I used it as an example).

This discussion should be on Talk:Barcelona, but I don't know how to move text from one talk page to another. If you can do that, someone else is likely to join the discussion. Jim Michael (talk) 10:35, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Csc existed or not, it does not have any meaning here

"Nicosia has a hot semi-arid climate. It's rainfall is too low for it to be classified as having a Mediterranean climate" - really? Maybe for you. Los Angeles also have a Mediterranean climate, with the same rainfall.

and again: summer in Barcelona does not takes two months, even if Barcelona has a hot July and August (repeat: if), rest months are not hot. So, you can not write that summer is hot. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 10:56, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I only mentioned Csc because you said that the Mediterranean climate is split into only Csa and Csb.

Nicosia is definitely BSh, certainly not Csa. Los Angeles is not a good comparison as it has slightly higher rainfall than Nicosia and is at the junction of different climate classifications, including Csa and Csb, as explained at Los Angeles#Climate. It's not 'for me' - it's what Wladimir Koeppen declared.

In Koeppen and Trewartha, climates are classified by their hottest month, coldest month and precipitation. They don't require being hot, cold etc throughout a season. Some Mediterranean climate locations have only have one really dry month Rome for example, yet they're still classified as having dry summers. Jim Michael (talk) 11:07, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nicosia (342 mm) has the same rainfall than Los Angeles (379 mm - Csa / 325 mm - Csb). Koeppen no shows Nicosia as BSh, but as Csa so, your "Nicosia is definitely BSh" is OR. I and you know, maps by Koeppen are not accurate, so this source should be treated with reserve. There are even discussions on the reliability of this source.

"Koeppen and Trewartha, climates are classified by their hottest month, coldest month and precipitation" - yes, but as you wrote "are classified". If city is classified to "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" (Csa) does not mean whole hot summer in city. Term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" (Csa) refers only to the hottest month!, not whole summer. This is the crux of the matter. Thank you for the conversation. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 12:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Los Angeles' rainfall and temperature vary a great deal depending on area of the city. Parts of it have significantly higher rainfall than you state.

The Europe Koeppen map puts Nicosia into BSh; it's coloured orange on the Koppen Europe map. Jim Michael (talk) 12:28, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Los Angeles' rainfall and temperature vary a great deal depending on area of the city" - rainfall not. The downtown of L.A. has 379 mm rainfall - according to Koeppen this is Mediterranean climate, coast part of L.A. has 325 mm rainfall - according to Koeppen this is Mediterranean climate. Furthermore, it does not matter for this case. Nicosia was only example. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 12:35, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is it? For most people hot summer is >30°C and mild summer is ~20°C. For you 20°C is warm summer? For you 27°C is hot summer? Apparently you are different than other peoples. Also according to Koeppen/Trewartha climate classification 10 to 17.9 °C (50.0 to 64.2 °F) is "l — mild", downtown of San Francisco in the warmest month have 20.1°C/12.8°C - average daily 16.4°C, so - mild, not warm. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 12:50, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nicosia is reliably referenced as BSh as well as showing as that on the Europe Koeppen map. If you can find a reliable source which backs your claim that it has a Mediterranean climate, then do so.
LA's rainfall and temperature vary so much that it is split between different climate classifications. Look at Los Angeles#Climate and you'll see that there are very different statistics for different parts of the city. That's why figures from different areas are shown. Istanbul is another example of this - a large city at the confluence of different climate classifications, and also has data from different areas in its climate section.
SF's climate is well within Csb, which is warm-summer Mediterranean. That's what I corrected; its Koeppen classification. There is no such Koeppen classification as 'mild-summer Mediterranean'.
In Koeppen, summer is classified as hot if the hottest month is at least 22C for its 24h average; for Trewartha it is 23C. Your claims as to what most people consider hot, warm, mild etc. are a combination of guesswork and limited, original research. They are also irrelevant. We classify by what experts such as Wladimir Koeppen declare, not by what most people think is the case. A high proportion of people think that Sydney is the capital of Australia. Do you think that we shouldn't provide the correct information that the Canberra is the capital? Millions of people think that Seattle is America's wettest city; however, the whole of the Eastern Seaboard has higher rainfall. I've heard dozens of people claim/complain that Seattle has extremely high rainfall, yet I've never heard anyone describe New York City as rainy. The truth is that NYC receives a third more precipitation than Seattle. Do you think we should conceal that because it goes against what most people think is the case? This is an encylopedia; it's for reliably sourced, relevant facts, not to confirm what most people think regardless of the truth. Jim Michael (talk) 21:19, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I know that L.A. has microclimates, I use the zones separately (downtown, coast). Nicosia (supposedly Bsh) have the same rainfall (342 mm) than Los Angeles. The downtown of L.A. has 379 mm rainfall - according to Koeppen this is Mediterranean climate, coast part of L.A. has 325 mm rainfall - according to Koeppen this is Mediterranean climate. So, Koeppen drank at work? Also, you wrote "SF's climate is well within Csb, which is warm-summer Mediterranean" but does not meet the requirements, according to Koeppen/Trewartha climate classification 10 to 17.9 °C (50.0 to 64.2 °F) is "l — mild", downtown of San Francisco in the warmest month have 20.1°C/12.8°C - average daily 16.4°C, so - mild, not warm. Thus, despite the mild climate, Koeppen moved on own map San Francisco to warm climate. Reliable? Mockery. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 23:07, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're confusing two separate climate classifications, Koeppen and Trewartha.
Wladimir Koeppen hasn't been discredited. He's one of the most respected in his field and his climate classification is widely used around the world. You disagreeing with him doesn't mean that you should remove information sourced to him from Wikipedia articles.
SF easily is well within Csb in Koeppen, which is what I stated in its article. There's no such classification in Koppen as 'mild-summer Mediterranean'. There is only hot-summer Med (Csa, for example Rome); warm-summer Med (Csb, for example SF) and cool-summer Med (Csc, for example Balmaceda, Chile).
Nicosia is BSh, not supposedly. Perhaps other things, such as % humidity, average yearly temperature and proximity to the coast need to be taken into account. LA is on the coast; Nicosia isn't. Jim Michael (talk) 23:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Trewartha classification is only a modified version of Koeppen classification, this is not completely new classification.
"Wladimir Koeppen hasn't been discredited. He's one of the most respected in his field and his climate classification is widely used around the world" - this is your own opinion.
"You disagreeing with him doesn't mean that you should remove information sourced to him from Wikipedia articles" - I'm not going to remove whatever
"SF easily is well within Csb in Koeppen" - nonsense. I proved that it is not. Numbers do not lie. Sorry.
"There's no such classification in Koppen as 'mild-summer Mediterranean" - yes, and here is the problem. According to temperatures and rain, must be about 4 varieties of Mediterranean climate, including "mild-summer Mediterranean" (San Francisco), "very warm-summer Mediterranean" (Barcelona), "very hot -summer Mediterranean" etc. Koeppen pushed the cities into two categories though do not meet its own requirements. A perfect example is San Francisco, according to climate classification 10 to 17.9 °C (50.0 to 64.2 °F) is "l — mild", downtown of San Francisco in the warmest month have average daily 16.4°C, so - mild, not warm but Koeppen push San Francisco to "warm-summer Mediterranean". This is just one example. Koeppen all cities within mild zone of Mediterranean put to "warm-summer Mediterranean" and all cities within very warm zone and very hot zone of Mediterranean put to "hot-summer Mediterranean" because in Koeppen classification there are only two varietes of Mediterranean. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 17:59, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that Koeppen is the most commonly used and well-known climate classification proves that his work hasn't been discredited. You didn't prove that SF isn't Csb. Its statistics show that it is. It is not arid or semi-arid. Its 24h average has all months above 0C and below 22C and at least four months above 10C. Its driest summer month has less than a third of the precipitation of the wettest month. Those are the requirements for Csb, which it easily meets. If you think it isn't Csb in Koeppen, what are you claiming it is? You may think that there should be four types of Med climate, but under Koeppen there are three (Csa, Csb and Csc); Barcelona is Csa, SF is Csb, Balmaceda is Csc. Jim Michael (talk) 18:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, the discussion strays from the topic. Term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" "(Csa)" is invented name created for Koeppen climate classification. Nothing more. Term of "hot-summer Mediterranean climate" does not mean that city has whole hot summers. Koeppen climate classification show Barcelona on map within own "hot-summer Mediterranean climate", based on their own work and principles (temperature of warmest month). Koeppen do not write that whole summer in Barcelona is hot, this source for this type of sentences does not meet any requirements of Wikipedia:Verifiability. If "X climate classification" divide global climate into two groups, for example: "climate of warm summer" and "climate of cold summer" and Mediterranean basin get into the group of "climate of warm summer", does not automatically mean that hot-summer Nicosia in Cyprus (Mediterranean Sea) have warm summers. This is the just qualification for a particular group, within own climate classification, nothing more.

Also, according to three the basic principles of Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Verifiability, if there are more versions - user must use neutral version. If all sources show - for example Los Angeles - as city with Mediterranean climate is ok, we can write "Los Angeles has a Mediterranean climate" but if there are various sources and various versions or information is controversial, we must use a more detailed description, for example "According to Koeppen climate classification, Los Angeles has a Mediterranean climate, according to XYZ climate classification, Los Angeles has a semi-desert climate". This is just an example. Subject is completed. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 18:26, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Every term is invented by someone. In cases where a location is classified differently in different systems, both/all can be stated. This is the case with Auckland, which is classified as oceanic (Cfb) in Koeppen and subtropical (Crbl) in Trewartha. Jim Michael (talk) 21:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to San Francisco. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Chamith (talk) 00:03, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's not original research; it's how Koeppen classifies it. See warm-summer Mediterranean climate, where SF is given as one of the examples. Jim Michael (talk) 23:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ankara

This edit is also controversial. According to map of location of Ankara and map by Köppen, Ankara lies within Continental Mediterranean climate, not hot-summer Mediterranean climate. Problem of Köppen climate classification is poor level of communication, not clear map (not show cities). There are many cities on the border of type of climate and you have to guess. Köppen climate classification even if is reliable source as such, the presentation of detailed information is scandalous and propably does not meet the requirements of Wikipedia:Verifiability, because informations from source must to be clear. Your description of the changes while violating the principle of Wikipedia:No original research. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 19:04, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Koeppen maps are not on a close enough scale to show all the boundaries, especially in a country such as Turkey where altitude differences and proximity to the sea cause large differences in the climate in location that are in close proximity. The climate statistics of Ankara are reliably sourced and qualify it as Csa under Koeppen. The urban heat island effect and terrain of mountains and plateau means that some nearby areas are Dsa, Dsb or Bsk. Istanbul is on the boundary of different types of climate. Jim Michael (talk) 20:48, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Above is a perfect example of breaking the rules of Wikipedia: Wikipedia:No original research including Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS. User:ChamithN tried to explain it to you above. You can not analyze urban heat island effect + terrain of mountains + plateau means (...) + altitude differences + proximity to the sea = calculated - Csa. Source must clearly! show that Ankara has a hot summer Mediterranean climate. Subtropical-man talk
(en-2) 21:01, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't do any original research. The climate stats for Istanbul are reliably sourced. I was explaining to you why a climate map covering Turkey cannot show all the boundaries between the climate types. Jim Michael (talk) 21:09, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It does not matter that climate stats for Istanbul are reliably sourced and does not matter your explaining why a climate map covering Turkey cannot show all the boundaries between the climate types. Again: source must clearly! show that Ankara has a hot summer Mediterranean climate according to Wikipedia:Verifiability and you can not use analysis (see above) according to Wikipedia:No original research including Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS. Subtropical-man talk
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Hi Jim, I'm trying to understand what the purpose of tagging categories as being "underpopulated" is. You placed the tag on Category:20th-century_biologists (in 2010) (a category that now contains more than 1000 articles). So I would be interested in your thoughts on this. DexDor^(talk) 19:45, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At the time I placed that on there (over 5 years ago), it was underpopulated. It now has plenty of articles in it, so I've removed it. Once a category is adequately populated, the tag has served its purpose and can be removed. Jim Michael (talk) 02:16, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding this to some of the categories I made for British TV seasons by year. I only created one to start with that was relinked on an article, but started making more but then I ran out of energy to populate them myself, so I appreciate you doing this. Anemone Projectors 18:21, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Pimping

. You should check out Urban Dictionary to see what the current meaning of "Pimpin" is. As a fan of TV you might have heard of "Pimp My Car" which has nothing to do with sex in any way shape or form.
. Also the text of the article does not confirm the song is about anything.
Your link for AZ lyrics is redundant AND
an copyright infringement (do not link to sites that infringe copyrights. (see WP:COPYVIOEL.

I shall make no further comment to show some good faith, but please let's use a little commonsense here. Cheers.

The lyrics are unambiguous that the protagonist of the song is a pimp - they say "I'm a pimp in every sense of the word". How can you or I know if a link does or does not include a copyvio? What more do you need to show that the song is about pimping? Jim Michael (talk) 17:54, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is your interpretation which is WP:OR as to what the words are about and as it is OR, it is also non-defining. The copying of lyrics without permission is copyvio (which is why there aren't many lyrics on WP). MetroLyrics do have permission and is already linked at the bottom of the page. "It's big pimpin with Gs" (as the lyrics say) is nothing to do with whoredom it's about spending money, not making it as a pimp. Apologies, it wasn't Pimp My Car, it was Pimp My Ride. Still nothing to do with sex --Richhoncho (talk) 18:08, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's about a pimp who makes a lot of money from his whores, then spends it. How is being a pimp in every sense of the word ambiguous and non-defining? He also says he made a mill off a sorry hoe - again that's definitely him being her pimp. Jim Michael (talk) 23:04, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you find a reliable source that says so please add it to the article. Your opinion/reading of any lyric is worth the same as my opinion - nothing - and therefore is non-defining. --Richhoncho (talk) 00:00, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How can being a pimp in every sense of the word and making a mill off a sorry hoe not refer to being an actual pimp? Jim Michael (talk) 08:24, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:FILMCAT and from what I understand to be the consensus at WP:FILM, we generally don't make genre-by-year categories, such as Category:1984 comedy films. Before you go adding this to more films or creating more categories like this, you should get consensus at WT:FILM. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:52, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see that any such consensus exists. Horror films have long been categorised by year. Recent years of drama films were already categorised by year before I started to create cats for further years. Jim Michael (talk) 01:04, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Look, the police of Bryce Dejean-Jones death already stated that it was a mistake not a robbery. He thought he was entering his ex-girlfriend's apartment where his daughter is cause apparently it's clear he didn't realize where he was going which numerous reports have been stating as this situation was investigated. Not a robbery as the police have already stated. Also this is an encyclopedia not blog. So you are caring whether he's innocent or not. This is not the place for that. Again this is encyclopedia for information not to state your opinion on whether he's innocent or whatever you feel about it. Keep your personal feelings or opinion of this case to yourself. This is not the place to do that. That's all I'm saying. Have a nice day. Pmaster12 (talk) 17:58, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I never said it was a robbery. You're making it look like he innocently "entered". He in fact deliberately broke down the front door and bedroom door of an apartment. There's no innocent explanation for doing that. It's a serious crime and still would be even if it had been his ex-girlfriend's apartment that he'd broken into. Deliberately breaking into anyone's residence other than your own is a crime. I'm stating the facts as backed by reliable sources. You're trying to make it look like he accidentally just walked in and merely banged on the bedroom door. He used force to break both doors down - only then did the resident shoot the intruder dead. Why are you covering up BD-J's use of force? He got the wrong apartment, but the breaking in of the two doors was deliberate.

This should be discussed on the article's talk page, so that other editors of the article can see it - not my talk page where they won't. Jim Michael (talk) 18:32, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly didn't hear me the first time which i clearly just told you. According to the investigation by the police, He went to the wrong floor mistakenly thought was his former girlfriend's apartment. It was reported that he thought she locked him out which that wasn't the case. He was at the wrong floor and wrong apartment. I'm going to tell you this again. If you spend your time to read every source instead of picking choosing. This is not the place for whether he's innocent or not. You seem like the only person in here that cares on how it looks. Clearly the police which they have sent to the residents that it was a mistake not a break-in. I'm not going back and forth. This is not the place for this. This encyclopedia for information. Keep your personal feelings or opinion of this case to yourself. Hopely we resolved this matter. Pmaster12 (talk) 19:20, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I did read what you said, but what you said is untrue. It's you who is misrepresenting this case to make it look like he merely walked in. Read the sources. He definitely smashed in the doors of his ex-gf's neighbour's apartment. What you're covering up is that he deliberately smashed in two doors. Even if he'd done that to his ex-girlfriend's apartment it would still be a crime. It definitely was a break-in, just into a different apartment than he was targeting. I'm writing what actually happened; you're whitewashing it to make it look like he didn't do anything wrong. You're the only person who's trying to make it look like he didn't do anything wrong. It's you who's not being encyclopedic. Committing a crime against a different property than intended is still committing a crime.

Stop writing here. Write on the talk page of the article. Jim Michael (talk) 20:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You keep bring laws and crime which that is not the issue. You keep bringing up smashed in which that is not in every source. So stop bringing those words if you don't have no sources to back that up. Pmaster12 (talk) 02:03, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The sources clearly state that he deliberately broke in the doors. That is not a reasonable innocent or legal thing to do. Those facts are relevant. Stop claiming he merely innocently walked in and knocked on the door. He did not - he used force to break in. Also, stop writing about it here - do so on the talk page of the article. Jim Michael (talk) 09:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Mateen was not a New Yorker, he was a Floridian, regardless of where he was born. He did not become a criminal or notable in any way during his infancy/toddler years before his family moved to Florida. Quis separabit? 02:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cats denoting where a person is from are about where they're from, not where they were living when they became notable. If he had been asked where he's from, he'd have said that he's originally from New York. Jim Michael (talk) 02:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt that he would have said that; that's not logical, unless he was specifically asked where he was born, not "where he was from". Speculative on your part, anyway, I think. Yours, Quis separabit? 03:15, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why would that not be logical? He wasn't merely born in NY - he lived there for the first few years of his life as well. When I've asked "where are you from?" to people who live somewhere other than where they're originally from, in most cases they tell me where they're (originally) from and where they live now. In this case, it would have been "I'm originally from New York, but I live in Florida" or "I'm originally from New York, but I've lived in Florida since I was little". Regarding the 'from' cats for Mateen, both NY & Florida apply to him. Saying he wasn't a New Yorker is ridiculous; it's reliably sourced that he was originally from NY. Jim Michael (talk) 08:28, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Which article talk pages should have the WP Categories banner on them? What is and what isn't eligible should be made clear on the project page. I thought it was for categories, because it's the category project. Jim Michael (talk) 11:10, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Please, don't remove related categories from the articles 2016 Nice attack and 2016 Orlando nightclub shooting. Current consensus is, per WP:EPON: "1) Keep both the eponymous category and the main article in the parent category". 46.200.26.232 (talk) 16:27, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That duplication seems bizarre. What's the reasoning for having the cats on the article and the eponymous cat? Jim Michael (talk) 16:30, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Create Category:2000s in Bavaria also to build the correct structure. 46.200.26.232 (talk)

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