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This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule. See this guide for instructions on creating diffs for this report. If you see that a user may be about to violate the three-revert rule, consider warning them by placing {{subst:uw-3rr}} on their user talk page. You must notify any user you have reported. You may use {{subst:An3-notice}} ~~~~ to do so. You can subscribe to a web feed of this page in either RSS or Atom format. Additional notes When reporting a user here, your own behavior will also be scrutinized. Be sure you understand WP:REVERT and the definitions below first. The format and contents of a 3RR/1RR report are important, use the "Click here to create a new report" button below to have a report template with the necessary fields to work from. Possible alternatives to filing here are dispute resolution, or a request for page protection. Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed. Definition of edit warring Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring. Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR) An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions. Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.
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User:74.111.4.108 reported by User:JohnBlackburne (Result: 24 hours)

Page: Son of man (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 74.111.4.108 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [1]

• 1st revert: [2]
• 2nd revert: [3]
• 3rd revert: [4]
• 4th revert: [5]

+ another

• 5th revert: [6]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [7] [8]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Son of man#Far too few secondary sources Comments:

--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 21:21, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 24 hours The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:43, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

User:‎79.182.215.205 reported by User:Yobol (Result: )

Page: X-ray computed tomography (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 79.182.215.205 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

• 1st revert: [9]
• 2nd revert: [10]
• 3rd revert: [11]
• 4th revert: [12]
• 5th revert: [13]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [14]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

See extensive discussion on talk page as well as this link on the Wikiproject Medicine talk page

Comments:

The editor has a serious case of WP:IDHT, as can be seen at the talk page of the article and the WT:MED page. He has shown no indication that he plans to abide by any behavioral or content guideline. Yobol (talk) 02:06, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

This is a false complaint, I don't see from that diff how there were three reverts there. There is new text in these diffs, and the revert "(Reverted edits by 79.182.215.205 (talk) identified as spam (HG))" is a revert that an HG bot did by mistake, when I fixed a link, and it thought it was spam, when it wasn't, and so I reverted its stupid automatic revert. Give me a break Yobol.

I think that if you check what happened, including in the talk page, you would see that Yobol is editing things he don't understand, and don't try to understand, and without asking for clarification/consensus before he edit.

If you are already counting, please count Yobol's deletions, maybe he has 3 reverts. I try to fix the text, and I change the content according to remarks, so these are genuine edits, all Yobol does is delete without asking questions first, and because of errors in his understanding, sometime of simple matters.

It seem to me that Yobol effort will result in that the adverse effects of CTs would be underestimated by the readers, which is bad.

79.182.215.205 (talk) 05:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Joshuaforest reported by User:Mattythewhite (Result: )

Page: Lewis McGugan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Joshuaforest (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [15]

• 1st revert: [16]
• 2nd revert: [17]
• 3rd revert: [18]
• 4th revert: [19]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [20]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [21]

Comments:
Continued ignoration of the guidelines highlighted here through the addition/modifcation of career statistics tables for footballers. This extendeds beyond Lewis McGugan and includes Chris Cohen (on the talk page of which a discussion aimed at resolution was initiated, although the user has ignored the invite to participate), Kieron Freeman and Jamaal Lascelles. The user has failed to engage in any kind of discussion and has a history of questionable edits; see this for an example. Seems to be a case of WP:OWN. The user just can't seem to bear the fact that someone is amending a Nottingam Forest-related article, even though the amendments are improvements and adhere to WP guidelines. It's a shame because he's trying to be constructive adding these tabes, but is not willing to see anyone improve on them. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:19, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

I see the user has now been given a 24h block. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:20, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Pass a Method reported by User:Mathsci (Result: )

Page: Europe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Pass a Method (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [22]

• 1st revert: [23]
• 2nd revert: [24]
• 3rd revert: [25]
• 4th revert: [26]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [27][28]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [29]

Comments:

Pass a Method has tried to insert content on same-sex marriage into Europe in a section labeled "LGBT rights". The material was copy-pasted from LGBT rights in Europe and he later added his own sources for the content, not used in the original article. He did not give any attribution to the original editors who created the content. Five users have objected to his addition as WP:UNDUE and unsuitable for the article: Mathsci, Maunus, Chipmunkdavis, Bluehairedlawyer and MadGeographer. He continues to restore the content and to disrupt the article in ways that are not an improvement for the reader. No other editors agree that his proposed content, purely on single-sex marriage, is appropriate, but he is edit-warring against this consensus. Usually on Europe, amongst the 200 most read pages on wikipedia and as such an anodyne and neutral article, disruption has been caused by issues related to Eastern Europe. This is disruption of a different kind which is also wasting volunteer time. (The fourth reversion was about trivia in the lede concerning largest and smallest countries.)

Pass a Method has also been involved in similar edit warring on Africa also related to the topic of same-sex marriage. (More details will be added later.) Mathsci (talk) 05:40, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

On Africa: Original insertion:[30] First reversion:[31] + new insertion on same topic: [32] Second reversion of all this new content: [33] Third reversion of previously added material: [34] Fourth reversion: [35] The content in this case was about "LGBT" (his subsection heading)/same-sex marriage plus statements added to the lede about which countries in Africa are the largest in area and population. Mathsci (talk) 05:55, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Other edits of Pass a Method, placing warning templates or comments on user talk pages when his edits were reverted, indicate a WP:battleground approach.[36][37][38][39][40][41] He also commented on edits to Europe on Talk:Africa which is not very helpful for those watching Europe.[42] Mathsci (talk) 06:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Reply The fourth revert is about Russia so it is completely different to the first three reverts. The first revert was me adding a source (because of a request). Additionally i conceded to the current version long ago, so im not sure why Mathsci is re-opening a resolved issue. Pass a Method talk 09:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Reverts are counted irrespective of the content being reverted. PassaMethod was evidently edit-warring. Above is the first time that he has explicitly stated that he now accepts that his edits were against consensus (presumably he means on both articles). Mathsci (talk) 09:33, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes i do mean on both articles about lgbt. But my last two edits on Africa had to do African demographics in the lede (See [43], [44]). Pass a Method talk 10:08, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Igny reported by User:Toddy1 (Result: protected)

Page: Occupation of the Baltic states (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Igny (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Repeatedly making the same edit - which is to add a POV tag to the article.

• [45] Revision as of 23:13, 11 June 2012
• [46] Revision as of 01:23, 17 June 2012
• [47] Revision as of 12:53, 17 June 2012
• [48] Revision as of 13:31, 17 June 2012
• [49] Revision as of 00:01, 19 June 2012
• [50] Revision as of 00:42, 19 June 2012

In fairness to Igny, he/she has also participated in discussion of the issues on Talk:Occupation of the Baltic states and on User talk:Estlandia#You last removal of POV-tag. According to User:Nug posting on 20:07, 12 June 2012, User:Igny has just come off off a six month topic ban.Toddy1 (talk) 06:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Usually joining an edit war is not part of the procedure to report an edit war. Just so you know... (Igny (talk) 09:25, 19 June 2012 (UTC))

comment

The Wikipedia's policy WP:NPOV linked from the tag says:

That an article is in an "NPOV dispute" does not necessarily mean it is biased, only that someone feels that it is.

To indicate that the neutrality of an article is disputed, insert

at the top of the article to display:

User Igny made his edits in full compliance with Wikipedia's rules as there are currently three users who dispute the article's neutrality. Conversely, removal of the tag by the opposing team is a breach of the rule. And following from what is cited above, any user has right to insert this tag once he/she disagrees with the content. There is no need for consensus for this tag because it is designed specifically to indicate that there is no consensus.--UUNC (talk) 09:14, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

• The issues are more serious than just plain edit warring, there is an open AE case here. --Nug (talk) 10:34, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Update

The issue has been already addressed, the article is protected [51]--UUNC (talk) 11:49, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Nope - and Igny's "edit war" now encompasses 38 insertions of the same tag (or moving the article) in the past - which means even the 3RR "bright line" does not apply - this is a near-record edit war on his part. Cheers. (noting your extensive edit history). Collect (talk) 11:57, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Does not the tag say it should not be removed?--UUNC (talk) 11:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:CONSENSUS is the operative policy here - I can put "do not remove" on any edit I wish but the pov-tag has no more power than did King Canute. I am not "Latvian." Cheers. Collect (talk) 12:08, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

No, the tag is designed for the cases when there is no consensus at least as indicated in WP:NPOV.--UUNC (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Page protected for a period of 1 month by Bwilkins (talk · contribs). Remaining matters can be handled at the currently open AE thread. T. Canens (talk) 13:06, 19 June 2012 (UTC)