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    OLES2129 Question

    It appears that OLES2129 is a course in On-Line Editing at the University of Sydney. Is there a course page? Who is the instructor? I am asking because one of the students is editing disruptively. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:23, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks like it's this one. Pinging Fransplace. --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:39, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Robert McClenon: it may also help if you can identify the editor(s) and article(s) with issues. — xaosflux Talk 16:59, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    It is Yche3321 and their sockpuppet Yche33211 and the following: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Use of wormwood recreations. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:23, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Just an FYI: "OLE" stands for "Open Learning Environment" [1] at the University of Sydney. And "Open" means less FLOSS, and more "The course is open for students to try it without committing to enroll for credit" Though the course which is editing Wikipedia requires enrollment. Bob Cummings (talk) 17:29, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles used exclusively by students

    Hi all. I was going through the copy edit tag and came across some articles that seem to have been created by students and then subsequently maintained almost exclusively by students (it's not 100%, but the edits I found that were made by non-student editors seemed to be fairly minor or technical). Three that I looked at are Sexuality in music videos, Misogyny in rap music, and Hip-hop feminism. They're not bad articles, but they do seem like they could be candidates for a merger of some kind, or at least a tone and style overhaul. But I'm new enough that I'm not totally comfortable proposing any kind of merger, especially so if these are articles that seem particularly popular for college courses. Nothing on the various WikiEd pages I checked indicated that there were specific articles that the courses you guys work with go to on a regular basis, and I know that student editors aren't supposed to get any special type of consideration for preserving their edits, but I'm a little confused about how to approach these articles knowing that they're tinkered with sporadically and might get re-created regardless. Zojomars (talk) 16:04, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    I think you should feel free to propose any kind of merge or other action that you would like. I can point you to WP:NOTTA, which basically says that you need not treat student editors any differently than other editors. If you want to suggest a merge while not being unilaterally responsible for it, the best way to do it is spelled out at WP:MERGEINIT, which explains how to propose it on the article talk page and then see what the consensus of other editors is. Very often, student editors disappear after the end of the semester, and they won't even respond to what you say, so it will just be you and other (non-student) editors. And alternatively, you are absolutely free to WP:BEBOLD and revise the pages for tone etc. But please don't feel like you are obligated to extend any special consideration to class projects. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:25, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    The Monthly Report for April is available as a PDF, on-wiki, and on our blog.

    Wiki Education’s Monthly Report for April 2019 can be found on Commons, meta, and our blog. Please let me know if you have any questions. OzgeGundogdu (talk) 22:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Restoring old records of education programs

    @Xaosflux:

    In March 2018 the process for formal deprecation of the Wikipedia:Education Program extension began.

    We both talked about this at that time.

    That extension published many records of class participation on English Wikipedia. I had the idea that the extension would be turned off, but I did not realize that the published records would be deleted. I am writing to ask if and how I could request undeletion of these records.

    These records contained lists of students who participated in the education program and the articles they edited. Project reports like this contain meta:Learning and Evaluation/Global metrics which the Wikimedia Foundation, universities, and other organizations use to demonstrate program efficacy.

    Icahn School of Medicine has some people who are evaluating the history of interest in their Wikipedia program and drafting a narrative of their engagement. If I were to make a request for restoring the text from the education extension, then where should I direct that? Again - I do not want the functionality of the tool, but the text on the page did report wiki account names of participants, when they edited, and what they edited.

    Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    @Bluerasberry: as far as I know, all of that was added to archives (phab:T174802) that you could access, there is also a long outstanding request (phab:T188407) TO "Document clear method for users to access historical data from the education extension". There is no on-wiki "restore" page option for pages in the special education program namespaces. For pages in existing namespaces (e.g. Wikipedia:) onwiki undeletes can be requested at WP:REFUND. Most of the dumps should be publicly accessible here so I suggest you look there first. — xaosflux Talk 18:42, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. It seems the information is archived there. I communicated this at Wikipedia_talk:Icahn_School_of_Medicine_at_Mount_Sinai. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:48, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bluerasberry: We migrated some of them to our Dashboard too, so you can see pages here and here. --LiAnna (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:51, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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