Template talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 1

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Non CVG paramaters?

Link (The Legend of Zelda series) has an old, non-CVG peer review. How can this be incorporated into this navbox? Hbdragon88 22:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to restrict additions to the template to operations of WikiProject CVG. Pagrashtak 00:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

New parameter?

I've seen disputes over the exact meaning of the {{{importance}}} parameter, since the criteria are for Wikipedia 1.0 context but the template also said "within gaming" context. For example, users arguing that the Wii is a topic of high priority within gaming (which it kinda is, it's the #10 most revised article ever), against users arguing that the article is still about a current event and not stable enough to be compiled to WP1.0 .

Maybe we can have a separate importance parameter discussing the topic's importance (or at least interest) within its own project's context? E.g.

{{#if:{{{interest|}}} |
{{!}} {{{{{interest}}}-interest}}
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} This {{#ifeq:{{{class|}}}|NA|non-article
page|article}} is on a subject of '''{{{interest}}}''' interest
within gaming.}}<!-- if interest -->}}<!-- if namespace -->
|-

Would that be useful, or would it just get abused? --Stratadrake 16:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I've readded the "within gaming" bit for now. If there's consensus to remove that then we'll change it. As far as I'm aware, ratings given by WikProjects are according to the importance of the topic in relation to the subject area of the WikiProject. Truly core topics are listed at Wikipedia:Core topics - 1,000. By changing this parameter to not specify that the rating is related to gaming, you kind of messed up a lot of the ratings. Shigeru Miyamoto is clearly very important in the history of CVG, but for inclusion in Wikipedia 1.0 it might not be so important. I'm sure that many people would argue that most video games are not exactly very relevant in the history of the world. One glance at Category:High-importance computer and video game articles should tell you that these ratings are definitely "within gaming" and not Wikipedia 1.0 ratings in general. jacoplane 17:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
At the risk of repeating what I said earlier, that's part of where this confusion comes from -- users don't understand how the parameter works, and specifically, those arguing that topics like the Wii are of very high importance in the videogame context (they are certainly of high visibility and high interest), despite that said articles are still current events and not stable enough for the traditionally-historical viewpoint of an encyclopedia. --Stratadrake 02:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
That is essentially a question for whenever the 1.0 project decides to start publishing stable Wikipedias on a semi-automated basis. Since that isn't a very close date, I'm comfortable leaving current events as whatever their hype-meter is at right now and future events as low or simply unassessed-importance. Nifboy 19:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Shorter

I don't see why this template needs to have functionality that most other templates do not need. It is long enough already, and it is not important to most readers or editors that a particular article is in the Sega Work Group etc. If it needs to be in the template as some sort of information, there can be a brief short-hand note in a right column. Talk page headers already crowd the talk pages, sometimes to the tune of two screenfulls. —Centrxtalk • 20:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

"Needed" or not, that functionality is already in widely accepted use. As much as the categorization can get the job done by itself, having a message saying that at the top is also quite useful as well. Maybe if we had a "show/hide" type link on the stats to toggle the panel on and off...? --Stratadrake 08:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
That would certainly be much better, though I do recall there are problems with it on certain browsers. —Centrxtalk • 12:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Hide/show

{{editprotected}} The show/hide link shows "hide" initially instead of "show". I'm not sure why this happens, but this seems to fix it (also bypassing a template redirect):

Current code:

<div class="NavFrame" style="padding:0px; border-style: none;">
<div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px;">
<div class="NavHead" style="background: #F8EABA; text-align: left; padding: 0px;">'''CVG To-do:'''</div>
<div class="NavContent" style="display: none; text-align: left; padding: 0px;">
<div class="noprint" style="white-space: nowrap; font-size: smaller; float: right;">[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:template:gamebox contents|action=edit}} edit]&nbsp;</div>
<div style="background-color: white; text-align:left;border: 1px solid #c0c090;padding: 5px; margin-top: 5px;">
* '''[[Wikipedia:Gaming Collaboration of the week|Gaming Collaboration of the week]]''': {{Wikipedia:Gaming Collaboration of the week/current}}
{{gamebox contents}}</div>
</div></div></div>

New code:

<div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px;">
<div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px;">
<div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px;">
<div class="NavHead" style="background: #F8EABA; text-align: left; padding: 0px;">'''CVG To-do:'''</div>
<div class="NavContent" style="display: none; text-align: left; padding: 0px;">
<div class="noprint" style="white-space: nowrap; font-size: smaller; float: right;">[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:template:gamebox contents|action=edit}} edit]&nbsp;</div>
<div style="background-color: white; text-align:left;border: 1px solid #c0c090;padding: 5px; margin-top: 5px;">
* '''[[Wikipedia:Gaming Collaboration of the week|Gaming Collaboration of the week]]''': {{collab-gaming}}
{{gamebox contents}}</div>
</div></div></div></div>

--- RockMFR 02:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Proto:: 18:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Should this template be modified or should the editors use subst?

I noticed that the talk pages using this template are listed in the categories:

Video game templates | WikiProject banners | Templates using ParserFunctions

That can't be right, so either the template itself should be modified (I can't do this because it's protected), or the usage information on this talk page should state that editors need to subst the template.

--Pizzahut2 16:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Change (at the bottom of the template):

[[Category:Video game templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:WikiProject banners|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:Templates using ParserFunctions|{{PAGENAME}}]]

To:

<noinclude>
[[Category:Video game templates|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:WikiProject banners|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:Templates using ParserFunctions|{{PAGENAME}}]]
</noinclude>

WOSlinker 16:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Infact you should very closely review what Cyde's bot did to the template, looks like it messed up a couple of things more. :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ACvgproj&diff=108999982&oldid=105845430

--Pizzahut2 17:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Looks like Cyde has fixed it up. Re-add the editprotected tag if something is still broken. --- RockMFR 21:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

image request parameters

I'd like to have 2 image request parameters added to the template, namely {{{cover}}} and {{{screenshot}}} so that articles lacking in either can be tagged as needing such. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 03:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is the code:

|-
{{#ifeq:{{{screenshot|}}}|yes|
{{!}} [[Image:Image-request.svg|30px]]
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} A request for a [[screenshot]] has been made to help better illustrate the article.}}
|-
{{#ifeq:{{{cover|}}}|yes|
{{!}} [[Image:Image-request.svg|30px]]
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} A request for [[box art]] or an [[icon (computing)|application icon]] has been made to help better illustrate the article.}}

It can be inserted anywhere, preferably before the divs. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, a possible move to Template:Vgproj in line with the new name for the WikiProject? Axem Titanium 04:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't see a point in renaming this template. It would be renaming just for the sake of renaming. Pretty much everything in the project is tagged already, and I imagine any future tagging would still be done with cvgproj. --- RockMFR 06:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I've made the changes, and I agree that it is not a good idea to rename the template. No real good reason, besides who wants to go and change the 15000 articles that have this tagged.. JACOPLANE • 2007-03-8 18:36
Could we get Image:Image-request.svg added to it? I've made changes to the code above to reflect this. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 23:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Done. Neil (not Proto ►) 12:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, not done. That change breaks the template (causes a bunch of }}}}'s to appear at the top of the talk page it's used on). Neil (not Proto ►) 12:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Ugh, for some reason the relevant categories are being populated by articles that don't have the tag. I think it might have something to do with the use of {{{ifeq}}} rather than {{{if}}}, like is done for the Category:Old requests for CVG peer review, which seems to function fine. Anyone got an idea? JACOPLANE • 2007-03-9 18:24
I had a look; currently, everything appears to be working fine. Is there currently any problem with this template? – Luna Santin (talk) 18:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Devil May Cry taskforce

In accordance with the recently-created Devil May Cry task force, I was wondering if the template could be edited so that the CVG template supports inclusion of a task force variable within the template, to allow members of the task force to tag articles we actively support.

If I'm remembering right, the code would look like this:

{{#ifeq:{{{devilmaycry|}}}|yes|
{{!}}
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} This article is supported by the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Devil May Cry|Devil May Cry task force]]'''.}}

Cheers, Lankybuggerspeaksee ○ 03:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding a task force variable may be reasonable, but adding a task-force-specific variable is not. How about something along the lines of supporting "tf=Devil May Cry" which would result in code like:
{{#if:{{{tf|}}}|
{{!}}
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} This article is supported by the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf}}}|{{{tf}}} task force]]'''.}}

Doug Bell talk 11:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I only suggested it in that manner because that's how the Konami, Sega, and Capcom task forces are handled in the current template. If that method would be better, I see no problems with it and endorse it fully. However I imagine if it were changed in that manner someone would have to go through and modify all the Konami, Sega, and Capcom articles currently effected by the template. Cheers, Lankybuggerspeaksee ○ 11:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah, bugger it. Let's do this in two stages: First, the new code is added as you've suggested (but leave the legacy code for now). Then I'll go through all the Capcom, Konami, and Sega articles and change them so that they adopt the new method of task force template adaption. After that's done, we remove the legacy code based around placing "konami/capcom/sega=yes" in the currently effected articles and replace it with "tf=konami/capcom/sega". Sound good? Cheers, Lankybuggerspeaksee ○ 13:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
It should be easy to change all the articles using WP:AWB. I'll add the generic line doug proposed to the template. As the number of task forces increases that is a better solution anyway. JACOPLANE • 2007-03-27 14:01
The only possible issue I see with this is the possibility that articles might be supported by more than one task force (i.e. the Devil May Cry articles being supported by the DMC task force and the Capcom task force), which this revision doesn't support. Perhaps include the following code?
{{#if:{{{tf2|}}}|
{{!}}
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} This article is supported by the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf2}}}|{{{tf2}}} task force]]'''.}}
That would allow the template to support a second task force. Thoughts? Cheers, Lankybuggerspeaksee ○ 15:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Sure. You could even allow for three task forces. I would think that would provide all the expansion any game would ever need (series, producer, platform would be the thinking.) However, instead of listing each on a separate line, I would list all three together like this:
{{#if:{{{tf|}}}|
{{!}}
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} This article is supported by the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf}}}|{{{tf}}} task force]]'''{{#if:{{{tf2|}}}|
{{#if:{{{tf3|}}}|,|&#32;and}} the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf2}}}|{{{tf2}}} task force]]'''{{#if:{{{tf3|}}}|
&#32;and the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf3}}}|{{{tf3}}} task force]]'''}}.}}
Doug Bell talk 16:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, added that to the template, now we have to remove all the old instances of the capcom/konami/sega task forces so that code can be removed. JACOPLANE • 2007-03-27 16:07
Actually, slightly better would be:
{{#if:{{{tf|}}}|
{{!}}
{{!}} colspan="2" {{!}} This article is supported by the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf}}}|{{{tf}}}{{#if:{{{tf2|}}}||&#32;task force}}]]'''{{#if:{{{tf2|}}}|
{{#if:{{{tf3|}}}|,|&#32;and}} the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf2}}}|{{{tf2}}}]]'''{{#if:{{{tf3|}}}|
&#32;and the '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/{{{tf3}}}|{{{tf3}}}]]'''}}{{#if:{{{tf2|}}}|&#32;task forces}}}}.}}
which doesn't repeat the "task force" text. —Doug Bell talk 16:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, not sure why, but these changes are causing some problems, with them showing up by default, so I've undone the changes for now. JACOPLANE • 2007-03-27 16:14
Two reasons. One is that you should have copied from this page instead of the source of this page (the &amp; entity was in the source to make it display correctly on the page—you didn't want that.) Second, because I left off a pair of closing braces. —Doug Bell talk 16:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I fixed the template. —Doug Bell talk 16:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! JACOPLANE • 2007-03-27 16:29
OK, I've replaced all the Konami task force talk pages, doing Sega now. Once Capcom is also complete we can remove the old code from the template. JACOPLANE • 2007-03-27 18:01
OK all done, did the Capcom links too, so I'm removing the Konami/Sega/Capcom specific code, so only the generic tf parameter will work. JACOPLANE • 2007-03-27 19:11
Looks fantastic. If I'm reading correctly, the template as written supports three task forces, which should be more than enough for any article. Cheers, Lankybuggerspeaksee ○ 14:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Nested coding

Per the discussion at the WP:CVG talk page, please add the nesting coding that can be seen in this diff. Thanks!!!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you give a link to the conversation? CMummert · talk 11:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
{{editprotected}} The discussion is here. Suggested and seconded there, edit made here. CMummert · talk 12:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}

Only the first part of the change was done - the second part wasn't added. Could someone review and make the second change? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I restored the deleted page so I could look at the diff again. I added the second part. I wrapped a ! to make it {{!}}. Please test and confirm that it works. CMummert · talk 03:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
There's still a "|-" missing between the first line ("{| class=...") and the second line ("{{#ifeq:..."). That should fix it up :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 03:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
That can't be right - that should only be a |- there if the nested parameter is actually set, otherwise there will be two |- symbols back to back. Also, it wasn't there in the diff; the deleted version says
{| class="{{#ifeq:{{{nested|}}}|yes|collapsible collapsed messagebox nested-talk|{{#ifeq:{{{small|}}}|yes|messagebox small-talk|messagebox standard-talk}}}}" id="cvgproj" {{#ifeq:{{{nested|}}}|yes|
I added {{!-}} at the place it ought to belong.
By the way, please don't keep deleting the diff before the issue is resolved; I can look at deleted revisions but not at diffs between them. CMummert · talk 04:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
You mean the example page? I put the speedy on it when I thought the change was up and working - sorry about that! Should have tested it before I deleted that.
For whatever reason, this diff works - see Template talk:WikiProjectBannerShell/Example CVG as an example. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Interesting. CMummert · talk 12:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Could you adjust this template to match that diff? The nested function isn't working the way the template currently is. Thank! --SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 13:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Let's slow this down a little; apparently it isn't working for me to look at the diffs. Can you give me a permanent link (not diff) to a version of the source that you want, so I can just copy and paste it? Then you are guaranteed to get exactly what you want. CMummert · talk 21:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

(margin reset) Yep - actually, Template:WikiProjectBannerShell/Example CVG is a direct copy of this template with the needed change. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I copied that source to this template just now. CMummert · talk 00:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks so much! Sorry to be such a pest — you've been very helpful! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} To fix the bug where the show/hide button jumps around when it's nested, change

colspan="2"

on line five of the template to

colspan="3"

An example of the change was applied to his example template. See the comparison here. Thank you. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

YesY Done Harryboyles 09:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Protection Template

{{editprotected}} I request that <noinclude>{{pp-template|small=yes}}</noinclude> be added to this template as it is permanently protected. Thanks! Greeves (talk contribs reviews) 22:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

The small option isn't necessary for templates; the fact that the template is protected should be made clear. I put the template in the doc page, instead of directly in the template page. CMummert · talk 23:20, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Removed "selected" parameter

The selected parameter used to be useful back when it meant that the article had been selected for Portal:Video games. What is the point of having it if it is placed on every featured or good article? The template already tells us if the article is FA or GA. Pagrashtak 16:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Whitespace

{{editprotect}} There is some whitespace being added after the template and causing problems when nested inside {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}. (ex. Talk:Joe Dever) --Farix (Talk) 19:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Do you where it is? — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Not exactly. By best guess is that this line:
}}[[Category:WikiProject Video games articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]<!-- if namespace --></includeonly>
<noinclude>

should be:

}}[[Category:WikiProject Video games articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]<!-- if namespace --></includeonly><noinclude>

or

}}[[Category:WikiProject Video games articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]<!-- if namespace --></includeonly><!--
--><noinclude>

Or at least, that is the only thing that jumps out at me as the possible source of the problem. --Farix (Talk) 21:38, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

That newline was definitely bad. I removed it; let me know if that didn't solve the problem. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Change image from png to svg

{{editprotected}} Change Image:Nuvola apps package games.png to Image:Gamepad.svg — Bobarino 00:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Greeves (talk contribs) 02:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Ugh, the SVG is not quite the same as the PNG, and frankly doesn't look as good. I oppose this change. What do others think? JACOPLANE • 2007-08-1 19:46
I had to compare them side-by-side to see any difference. The PNG version has some finer gradations, but nothing that a comparable SVG could not also accomplish. Dim those button gradients, tweak the outline paths, blur the light/dark transition in the controller itself... --Stratadrake 23:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Portal image is broken.

{{editprotected}} The "Portal" image is showing up as broken. Something in the code needs to be changed in order for this image to appear correctly in the places where this template is being used.

I assume you're referring to Image:Portal.svg, which is displaying correctly for me. Also, please sign your talk posts. Cheers. --MZMcBride 03:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Move to Template:Vgproj

{{editprotected}}
The project this template is associated with changed name from WP:CVG to WP:VG ages ago, and the template name should reflect this. --MrStalker talk 08:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

WT:CVG is the place is to discuss this first. It's part of their project, and I don't want to do anything I shouldn't. Cheers. --MZMcBride 01:43, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Consensus says yes. Sorry it's been a while. Axem Titanium 21:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
YesY Done - Nihiltres(t.l) 01:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Accordingly, change "CVG To-do" into "VG To-do". User:Krator (t c) 08:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Done by CBM. Pagrashtak 15:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Great, everything looks good. Axem Titanium 03:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup department parameter

{{editprotected}}

There was a request at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Cleanup for a parameter to this template along the lines of the peer-review, screenshot, and cover parameters that already exist. The appropriate diff may be seen here, or alternatively this version should be simply copy-and-pasteable. Examples may be seen at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Cleanup#Getting started. Anomie 05:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

YesY Done --ais523 09:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Add FL class parameter

{{editprotected}}

There was a minor discussion on the VG talk page about creating an "FL-Class video game articles" category using the class parameter in this template. Since the number of Featured lists in the VG Project has grown some, and I'm sure there will be more to come, this sounds like a reasonable idea to me. Could support for "FL" be added? (Guyinblack25 talk 04:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC))

Yes check.svg Done Happymelon 20:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Awesome, thank you very much. (Guyinblack25 talk 20:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC))

Pageview counting

Hi, further to a request from dihydrogen monoxide, I've written a bot to give details about the number of times pages are viewed over the course of a month. So that this WikiProject can be included on its first full run, please make the following alteration to this template:

Before the line:

{{#ifeq:{{{peer-review|}}}|yes|

Include:

|-


{{viewcount}}

This will let the bot know that it needs to record the pageviews of WP:VG pages. It will also add details of the views of a page to the project box, like the working sample at Talk:Namapoikia.

Thanks.

Verisimilus T 14:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Done, seems like a good idea. JACOPLANE • 2008-04-8 15:09
Thanks. Verisimilus T 15:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Please remove the above as the request for approval of the bot was declined. Thanks, CWii(Talk|Contribs) 15:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Also so Category:Pageview bot can be depopulated. Thanks, CWii(Talk|Contribs) 15:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Happymelon 21:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

List class

I've added support for "list" class articles for this template. (It's one simple parameter). Should be populating Category:List-Class video game articles now . --MASEM 23:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Disambig-class bug

Disambig or dab class articles are being put into the default Unassessed videogame articles category. Can a tweak be made to the template to add the Disambig class category as an option? I think the relevant code segment starts here:

[[Category:{{#switch:{{{class}}}

Many thanks, Gazimoff WriteRead 20:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Category class

In line with the above comment, would it be possible to add a Category class as well? This will also enable us to make one clean, dynamic list of all Categories within the project without fussing with sub-cats and the like (which would help a TON for bot maintenance). This would save NA class for Wikipedia and Template namespaces. JohnnyMrNinja 10:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

If there's no objections to this, I also want to add a Template class (so we'll have 3 non-article types, disamb, category, and template). Jury's still out on List-class, but I don't believe these three non-article ones are a problem. --MASEM 16:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Makes sense to me, also means we have a useful way of tracking all of our non-mainspace articles for cleanup purposes. Gazimoff WriteRead 16:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't these classes be automatically detected by the template without users having to manually assess them? With some conditional command and {{NAMESPACE}} I think it could. Kariteh (talk) 19:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Am I wrong or is it not working? This page is classed as "Template", but there is no visible change. The wording and the categories are the same. JohnnyMrNinja 05:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Not yet, it's not as simple as I thought - but I haven't had a change to delve deeper. --MASEM 05:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
It's because the code is written so that only pages within the "Talk" namespace are categorized in assessement categories. That's why the template page itself doesn't appear in these categories by the way, since it's within the "Template" namespace. This talk page is in the "Template talk" namespace so it doesn't get categorized either. Kariteh (talk) 08:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Class space

{{editprotected}} The class section need to be modified from {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Talk| to {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{TALKSPACE}}| to include spaces such as Category Talk and Template Talk. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree with this. Testing it out in my own sandbox matches this.Gazimoff WriteRead 06:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
If this is done, could it also be fixed for Wikipedia Talk (if necessary), so that all internal project pages can be marked as NA. I have no idea if this needs done (I do not understand template code), but I figure while you're in there... JohnnyMrNinja 06:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done The first request. However, I think consensus should be waited for before the second request is fulfilled. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 10:58, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Questions-
  • Shouldn't the category adjust to the class and importance?
  • Could the wording change (as it does with NA) to say "this template" instead of "this article". (not really important)
  • I had forgotten about Image as well. Could this also be added? JohnnyMrNinja 16:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
I have created the following categories for use with this template - Category:WikiProject Video games disambiguation pages‎, Category:WikiProject Video games images‎, Category:WikiProject Video games categories‎, Category:WikiProject Video games templates‎, Category:WikiProject Video games non-article pages‎. JohnnyMrNinja 16:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Note that Category:WikiProject Video games non-article pages‎ already exists as Category:Non-article video game articles. Kariteh (talk) 08:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, we don't have to use the new one, it just seems silly to have "non-article articles". I've also just made Category:WikiProject Video games portals. JohnnyMrNinja 15:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Could everyone please take a look at User:Kariteh/Sandbox? I know very little about template code but it looks like a marked improvement. Does anyone think that it's ready to go live? JohnnyMrNinja 05:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep, looks good. MrKIA11 (talk) 12:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Kariteh, is there any objection to using your version of the template at this point? I'd rather not ask a sysop to do it until you're sure it's ready. JohnnyMrNinja 03:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I tested it on a few pages (with "Show preview") and I think there's no bug, so I have no objection. Just change the few [[:Category... to [[Category... to have the real categories. Kariteh (talk) 08:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Well actually there's one missing detail: the non-article pages (such as templates, etc.) are properly categorized, but the line "Template This article has been rated as Template-Class on the assessment scale." doesn't appear in the banner unlike in the current version of the banner (see at the top of this page). It's just a cosmetic detail though, since the categorization does work. Kariteh (talk) 08:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
But this is only in non-mainspace articles, right? These were already so buggy (see redlink categories below) that exact wording that shows up can be worked out and doesn't really matter. The fact that you got the categories to work right is a feat in itself. And it isn't anything negative, it's just ok wording that could someday be better wording. JohnnyMrNinja 08:34, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I've just fixed this. Now everything is okay and ready! Kariteh (talk) 09:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

{{User:Kariteh/Sandbox}} (un-transcluded Kariteh (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC))

- I don't think it's working...? JohnnyMrNinja 09:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. I forgot about the Disamb class and I tried to fix it but that made the other things buggy... It's not ready yet. I'm trying to fix everything, but if someone wants to have a look and help feel free to edit. Kariteh (talk) 09:20, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I truly don't know enough to make it not catch on fire. Couldn't the Dab pages be implemented like regular pages, since they are in mainspace, and not be auto-assessed? JohnnyMrNinja 09:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't stress about it, there's no time limit or anything. I had brought it up because I really wasn't sure if it was ready. I have requested that David Levy take a look at it, as he is known to have mad template skills. JohnnyMrNinja 10:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 {{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{{class}}}|Dab|dab|Disambig|disambig|Disambiguation|disambiguation=Disamb}}|Disamb||

Is the word Disamb supposed to be Disambig? JohnnyMrNinja 10:16, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

It should be working now. I didn't try to implement the descriptive line in the banner since as you said it doesn't really matter. The categories work fine. Dab pages are assessed manually, but the detail I was fixing about them was to disable their importance ratings. Good idea to ask David Levy to take a look; the code might need some fresh, expert eyes in case I forgot something. Kariteh (talk) 10:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

So is this ready to go? Can we implement it? MrKIA11 (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it's ready. Kariteh (talk) 22:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Please implement the code at User:Kariteh/Sandbox. MrKIA11 (talk) 22:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - Thanks Marasmusine! JohnnyMrNinja 09:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Mmh, we could have just took Template:WikiProject Anime and manga as a basis actually... They figured an auto-assessment feature long before us. Kariteh (talk) 12:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 :) Your timing is immaculate. Ours is probably much better anyways. JohnnyMrNinja 08:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

New categories

There is discussion as to what names the new categories should have. Please participate. JohnnyMrNinja 08:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}

Please change the template to reflect the new categories -

  • Category:WikiProject Video games non-article pages -> Category:NA-Class video game articles
  • Category:WikiProject Video games categories -> Category:Category-Class video game articles
  • Category:WikiProject Video games disambiguation pages -> Category:Disambig-Class video game articles
  • Category:WikiProject Video games images -> Category:Image-Class video game articles
  • Category:WikiProject Video games portals -> Category:Portal-Class video game articles
  • Category:WikiProject Video games templates -> Category:Template-Class video game articles

JohnnyMrNinja 10:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

This is what need to be changed:
{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Talk|
[[Category:{{#switch:{{{class}}}
 |FA|fa=FA-Class video game articles
 |FL|fl=FL-Class video game articles
 |A|a=A-Class video game articles
 |GA|ga=GA-Class video game articles
 |B|b=B-Class video game articles
 |C|c=C-Class video game articles
 |Start|start=Start-Class video game articles
 |Stub|stub=Stub-Class video game articles
 |List|list=List-Class video game articles
 |Dab|dab|Disambig|disambig|Disambiguation|disambiguation=WikiProject Video games disambiguation pages
 |#default=Unassessed video game articles
}}|{{PAGENAME}}]]
{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{{class}}}|Dab|dab|Disambig|disambig|Disambiguation|disambiguation=Disambig}}|Disambig||
[[Category:{{#switch:{{{importance}}}
 |Top|top=Top
 |High|high=High
 |Mid|mid=Mid
 |No|no|Low|low=Low
 |#default=Unknown
}}-priority video game articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:WikiProject Video games articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}|
[[Category:WikiProject Video games {{#switch:{{NAMESPACE}}
 |Portal talk=portals
 |Wikipedia talk=non-article pages
 |Category talk=categories
 |Template talk=templates
 |Image talk=images
 |#default=non-article pages
}}|{{PAGENAME}}]]
}}<!-- if namespace --></includeonly><noinclude>

to

{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Talk|
[[Category:{{#switch:{{{class}}}
 |FA|fa=FA-Class
 |FL|fl=FL-Class
 |A|a=A-Class
 |GA|ga=GA-Class
 |B|b=B-Class
 |C|c=C-Class
 |Start|start=Start-Class
 |Stub|stub=Stub-Class
 |List|list=List-Class
 |Dab|dab|Disambig|disambig|Disambiguation|disambiguation=Disambig-Class
 |#default=Unassessed
}} video game articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:{{#switch:{{NAMESPACE}}
 |Portal talk=Portal-Class
 |Wikipedia talk=NA-Class
 |Category talk=Category-Class
 |Template talk=Template-Class
 |Image talk=Image-Class
 |#default=NA-Class
}} video game articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{{class}}}|Dab|dab|Disambig|disambig|Disambiguation|disambiguation=Disambig}}|Disambig||
[[Category:{{#switch:{{{importance}}}
 |Top|top=Top
 |High|high=High
 |Mid|mid=Mid
 |No|no|Low|low=Low
 |#default=Unknown
}}-priority video game articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:WikiProject Video games articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}|
}}<!-- if namespace --></includeonly><noinclude>
Yes check.svg Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}

Sorry, I made a mistake, it needs to be:

{{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Talk|
[[Category:{{#switch:{{{class}}}
 |FA|fa=FA-Class
 |FL|fl=FL-Class
 |A|a=A-Class
 |GA|ga=GA-Class
 |B|b=B-Class
 |C|c=C-Class
 |Start|start=Start-Class
 |Stub|stub=Stub-Class
 |List|list=List-Class
 |Dab|dab|Disambig|disambig|Disambiguation|disambiguation=Disambig-Class
 |#default=Unassessed
}} video game articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
{{#ifeq:{{#switch:{{{class}}}|Dab|dab|Disambig|disambig|Disambiguation|disambiguation=Disambig}}|Disambig||
[[Category:{{#switch:{{{importance}}}
 |Top|top=Top
 |High|high=High
 |Mid|mid=Mid
 |No|no|Low|low=Low
 |#default=Unknown
}}-priority video game articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
[[Category:WikiProject Video games articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}|
[[Category:{{#switch:{{NAMESPACE}}
 |Portal talk=Portal-Class
 |Wikipedia talk=NA-Class
 |Category talk=Category-Class
 |Template talk=Template-Class
 |Image talk=Image-Class
 |#default=NA-Class
}} video game articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]
}}<!-- if namespace --></includeonly><noinclude>

Thanks, MrKIA11 (talk) 23:56, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

We now have 21,736 articles (real articles) in the NA-Class category. Kariteh (talk) 09:34, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

That was my fault when I tweaked the code for the new categories. The code above fixes that. MrKIA11 (talk) 15:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Cheers, PeterSymonds (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
When does that clear up? Soon, right? JohnnyMrNinja 09:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Note that the categories were changed despite Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 June 24#Category:WikiProject Video games XXX pages still being discussed. Kariteh (talk) 09:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
That was me... I thought, as I was the creator and it seemed to go against WP 1.0 standard naming, that when I repealed my oppose and supported it could be considered over. When I asked admins to close, it just got another Oppose vote. When I brought it to WP 1.0, it created further discussion. I assumed the CfD would be closed quickly, as it's been open since June 24, with almost no discussion happening. I'm not quite sure what to do, so I figured I'd wait until the CfD was actually closed. JohnnyMrNinja 09:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
The WP 1.0 post is here. JohnnyMrNinja 09:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk Space for Categories

{{editprotected}} The category section need to be modified from {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|Talk| to {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{TALKSPACE}}| to include spaces such as Category Talk and Template Talk. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. --- RockMFR 22:21, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding to WT:VG

I'd like to add this to WT:VG as part of the effort to tag every project page, but it would look a little silly without special text. Would there be a way to turn it into a welcome banner, but only when placed on WP:VG? And possibly either un-nest the todo list or remove it (to replace or accommodate the todo that is there)? JohnnyMrNinja 20:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, I think the best solution is just to create a new template. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

a few optimizations

{{editprotected}} At User:Izno/Sandbox, I've optimized the switches to use {{lc:}}, as well as moved the categories to the /doc page per WP:Template documentation. I also switched the documentation template for {{documentation}}. Can an admin help me out with these changes? --Izno (talk) 03:11, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thanks for your efforts, PeterSymonds (talk) 13:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

A suggestion

{{editprotected}}

This template appears on all VG talk pages, but when it is nested, it shows up as: "Wikiproject Video Games(""-Class). Can I suggest a space between "Games" and the class for uniformity purposes as well as grammar? Thanks. --haha169 (talk) 17:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Done. Pagrashtak 17:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Please replace some PNGs with SVGs

{{editprotected}} Please replace Image:Nuvola apps knewsticker.png with Image:Newspaper Cover.svg, Image:Crystal Clear app clock.png with Image:Crystal Clear app clock.svg and Image:Crystal Clear action bookmark.png with Image:Crystal Clear action bookmark.svg (the latter might be in some sub-template, as I couldn't find it in the source code, but the image can be seen here). It Is Me Here (talk) 09:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done The third one was actually on {{playstationp}}, not this template. Happymelon 10:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, thanks! It Is Me Here (talk) 13:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Fix spacing around "and" when tf2 or tf3 are used.

{{editprotected}} The template will currently display "the fooand the bar task forces" (note the missing space before the "and"). This will fix it. Anomie 18:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --MASEM 19:11, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

request for an infobox flag

a request flag for an infobox would be good like the request flags for screenshot and cover --77.64.134.190 (talk) 19:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

VG importance scale

Can we get the template to link to the new VG importance scale page when you click on priority?じんない 23:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

{{editprotected}}

Find:
Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Criteria#Importance of topic
Replace it with:
Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment#Importance Scale
And you're done! Gary King (talk) 14:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Done. Pagrashtak 19:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Nested importance

{{editprotected}} Change the display when using nested in such banners as {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} to display the importance as well in the following manner "WikiProject Video games (Rated {{-Class}}-class, {{-importance}}-importance) per the template's talk page since we have our own importance scale.じんない 02:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Not done for now: Please give a specific description of which code you want changed. Ideally, copy the template to a sandbox and make the changes there first, so the responding admin can just copy it over wholesale.--Aervanath (talk) 16:50, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} Change:

 [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games|WikiProject Video games]] {{#if:{{{class|}}} |      (Rated {{ucfirst:{{{class}}}}}-Class)|}}

to:

[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games|WikiProject Video games]] {{#if:{{{class|}}} | (Rated {{ucfirst:{{{class}}}}}-Class,|}} {{#if:{{{importance}}} |{{ucfirst:{{{importance}}}}}-Importance)|}}

じんない 18:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I've added importance to the banner when nested. In the future, you should put your code in a sandbox so it can be tested first. The code as you have it above does not work well when importance is present but null, and displays a comma and no closing parenthesis when importance is missing. I seem to have lost some white space, if someone cares to try to put it back. Pagrashtak 21:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)