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Crown Heights and Battle of Long Island

Help! is needed for article Battle of Long Island at wp:PR now. Please see my comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Battle of Long Island/archive1, particularly 3rd dot point about "Brooklyn Heights and other locations". Do you have, or could you possibly get, a photo of the plaque outside the main Brooklyn public library at Eastern Parkway and Flatbush Avenue? I recall it as being very helpful. Your commenting in the Peer review would be appreciated, any which way. I'll also ask at User:Jim.henderson's talk page. doncram (talk) 04:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, great. I do believe the plaque is on Eastern Parkway right near the main entrance to Brooklyn Public Library, but it's been a number of years since i was there. if it's not right there, it might be anywhere within 200 yards going E along Eastern Parkway towards the Brooklyn Museum. Happy hunting! doncram (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
It is also stated in the Battle of Long Island article already that:" Prospect Park, Brooklyn, Battle Pass: Along the Eastern Side of Center Drive in Prospect Park, Brooklyn is a large granite boulder with a brass plaque affixed." That mention links to this Prospect Park Alliance webpage, which further states: "Battle of Brooklyn. Nearly a century before the Park was conceived, the location was the setting for the first major contest of the Revolutionary War. In late August 1776, the Continental Army under George Washington fortified passes along a section of Flatbush Avenue that now serves as the Park’s Drive. As British and Hessian soldiers approached from the south, the Americans fought in vain to hold them back at Battle Pass. Although the Continental Army lost the battle, they held the British back long enough for Washington’s forces to make a moonlit escape from Brooklyn Heights to New Jersey. Today, plaques just north of the zoo commemorate this event, as does the Maryland Monument at the foot of Lookout Hill."
Thanks so much for trying! Hope you otherwise had a successful trip. doncram (talk) 02:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Bailey Hall pictures

Here are four Bailey Hall images, two of which are not presently in the article. If you would prefer one of these alternates with fewer people, feel free to make the switch. :)

Best, Notyourbroom (talk) 05:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for SAME Cafe

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Royalbroil 05:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:Comments and strikethrough

Replied on my talk. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:13, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

invitation

You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Historic Sites ! :) doncram (talk) 05:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Booker T. Washington National Monument

Image added per your request. Thanks for asking! Patriarca12 (talk) 20:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

WP:HSITES

Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic Sites is opened up. I took the liberty of assuming your support for the wikiproject meant you wanted to join as a member, and I copied your signature to the Members list on the main page. Please visit and add to, or remove, your listing there. It would be great to hear about what you're interested in the Wikiproject being, in your member comment and/or at the Talk page, shortcut wt:HSITES. Thanks for your support! doncram (talk) 17:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Moggy Hollow Natural Area

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--Dravecky (talk) 07:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Pigeon Swamp State Park

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Gatoclass (talk) 23:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Stone Harbor Bird Sanctuary

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--Dravecky (talk) 18:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

You're invited!

New York City Meetup

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DYK for Sunfish Pond

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--Dravecky (talk) 20:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Congrats

Congratulations on List of National Monuments of the United States, which you developed, reaching Featured List! You should show a star for it on your User page. I think i helped a little bit during the FL nom process, but it you and Reynas92 did much more during the FL nom, and you developed it previously. Take a bow!  :) doncram (talk) 19:00, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Thanks! I didnt even realize it had finished successfully. I'm surprised there isnt something like the DYK messageboxes for these... dm (talk) 00:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

NYCL's

Nice Empire Building. The red is a bit bright, maybe, but it is okay by me. Refreshing. I created {{NYCL color}} and added it to the table at wp:HSITES. Is there a List of New York City Landmarks, and/or a category of them? Please feel free to revise further about them, in row for them at wp:HSITES. doncram (talk) 18:07, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey would u like to join the new California historic sites task force? You've taken better pictures, if not more of them, than i have, and you've done more good development of lists in CA than me, too. :) doncram (talk) 03:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Gustavo Brambila

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Shubinator (talk) 00:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Need source for National Natural Landmarks-California

Hi, I see that your well-done list on NNLs includes Cosumnes River Woodland habitat, but, of cource, I can't cite another Wiki article :o) so if you have the source URL or something I can use, I would be very grateful. I searched NPS to no avail... Cheers, Marcia Wright (talk) 17:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

The main external link at the main list article Dm created is this page at NPS. Drilling down to California, and picking out "Cosumnes River Bluffs" off a state-wide map display, yields this about the Cosumnes River Riparian something. By the way, i had some success once inquiring at a web-form, i think, for information about a different NNL, the Snyder-Middleswarth National Natural Landmark, in Pennsylvania. It turned out the Washington D.C. office was supposed to have an "original onsite evaluation report" which they didn't have, so they tracked something down for me at a regional office, and it was sent by postal mail to me. Hope this helps.doncram (talk) 18:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Saw this when I cam to comment on the maps (below). Snyder-Middleswarth Natural Area exists as an article (the name is what the Pennsylvania Department of Conservation and Natural Resources calls it now - it used to be a state park). I made the red link above into a redirect. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

NJ and NY locator maps

It has been a while since I made the maps - they are from the Census website and I tried to use the largest map I could get that was one or two screens wide or tall. NJ is taller than it is wide, while NY is much wider than it is tall - the maps are generally 5 pixels beyond the state borders, so that constrains them. There is such disparity of sizes that I never thought of trying to make them all to the same scale until now. RI and AK would be a bit different. I am sure I ahve answered your question - sorry, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:52, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

The Census maps are in a limited number of sizes, so my guess is that there are probably two or three scales: most of the small states are the same scale, as are most of the medium sized states, and perhaps some of the large states are yet another scale (AK). If someone converted them to SVG I guess they could all be the same. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 12:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Cascade–Siskiyou National Monument

I have raised an issue at Talk:Cascade–Siskiyou National Monument where I specifically requested some information from you. I'd appreciate it if you could have a look and provide a response. Thanks. — Ipoellet (talk) 09:18, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK twofer

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--Gatoclass (talk) 14:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Empire Building

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Victuallers (talk) 10:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:Delaware Water Gap

For every category you create, you should specify parent categories to which it belongs. You can do this by listing the parents near the bottom of the page, each enclosed in double brackets like so: 

[[Category:Delaware River]]
[[Category:Mountain passes of Pennsylvania]]

I've added at least one parent to the category. I invite you to check my work for accuracy and completeness.

I am a human being, not a bot, so you can contact me if you have questions about this. Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Museum cat clean-up

Love it.... In addition to being long overdue, it also helped me clean off my watchlist because it made me realise how many I'd been watching that I really had no need to be. Thanks for all your help StarM 20:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:Defunct museums of Manhattan

I see that you created this category and later blanked the page. A faster way to delete a category you've created yourself is to place {{db-author}} on the page. This tag attracts the attention of an administrator who can perform the deletion for you. Contact me if you have questions about this. Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 21:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Sterling Hill Mining Museum

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rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 04:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Poricy Park

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BorgQueen (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Living museums

I noticed that you created the Category:Living museums in New Mexico. How many living museums in New Mexico do you expect to have Wikipedia articles? How many living museums are there in New Mexico? --Bejnar (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

You're invited...

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DYK for Hallein Salt Mine

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Dravecky (talk) 03:43, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

wagmag

I think wagmag and links thereto should be prod. Original author has had enouhg time to add info, you and I have done wiki cleanup and refs etc but there's no input here, should go prod I think would you agree? SimonTrew (talk) 15:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Old Bethpage Village Restoration

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Shubinator (talk) 01:59, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/National Register of Historic Places listings in Syracuse, New York/archive1

Since I enjoy and respect your NRHP work, I'm wondering if your could take a minute to look at this list I put up for peer review. I'd very much appreciate and value your input. Thanks. Lvklock (talk) 16:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with Thornden Park. I'm hoping to get up there and get some pics at the rose garden this month, while the roses are a-blooming! Lvklock (talk) 15:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Minor Edit

You have marked your recent edit on Florence Griswold Museum as minor. i don't think that adding a category is minor. Please see WP:MINOR for details. If I am wrong please answer here and notify me by {{tb}} template. --Srinivas G Phani 04:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Your highlighted edit was adding a category via hotcat. Typically those are minor. There were other edits which I did not label as minor, perhaps you meant those? dm (talk) 04:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay! I didn't know that --Srinivas G Phani 04:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Art museums vs. Category:Art museums and galleries

You might want to think before trying to set up a complete set of parallel categories in this area. It would be a huge job and needs some rationale and consensus. It would be worth some discussion at least. Just a thought! — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Please note that you should alphabetically order sub-categories using the location name rather than the full category name when there are many similarly named sub-categories. E.g., using [[:Category:Art museums in the United States by state|Illinois]] in Category:Art museums in Illinois. I hop ethis helps! — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 12:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
If they're all exactly the same, wont it have the same effect? I agree that your suggestion is better in general. dm (talk) 22:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Not a course on physics or aerobics.....

In this edit you neglected to inform the reader in the first sentence that golf is what this is about. (I've corrected that strange omission.) Michael Hardy (talk) 18:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

national monuments

Hi Dmadeo, FYI i am revising the National Monuments articles, including some which you edited, to clarify or remove NRHP mentions and NRHP infobox use. I started slowly, raising an issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Protected areas#Cleanup to use Geobox rather than NRHP infobox for many U.S. National Monument articles. I was hoping to engage some others in improving all the articles, in some cases using a geobox that could look as good as the NRHP infoboxes that you developed for some of the articles. However, I realize that cleanup help is probably not immediately forthcoming, and I am feeling pressed for time to get a NRHP cleanup bot run (which will cause erroneous changes, if NRHP infobox present for non-NRHP-listed places). So, I hope you don't mind, i am taking the expedient of performing only partial conversions from NRHP infobox to geobox. I am adding NRHP references and info to some articles, and stripping out all NRHP mention in others, and in some cases (each noted at the wp:PA talk page) I am doing those partial infobox conversions. I hope you don't mind. Certainly your participating in the Protected areas talk-page discussion or your helping to fix the articles would be most appreciated. So far i am through California, working by states alphabetically off the List of NMs. Regards, doncram (talk) 00:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I saw you talking about this at Protected areas so I'll comment there. I own up to this mistake, but not to "owning" the articles, edit them without mercy dm (talk) 22:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Over-categorization of museum categories

I recommend avoiding over-categorization of museums. As an example, do you think Category:African American museums in Oakland, California is a worthwhile category? Taken to extremes like this, every museum category could have a single museum in it. Are there any other museums that fit this category? There should be a reasonable number of entries or at least potential entries for a category to make it worthwhile. I would recommend not creating new categories for which you know of at least ten museums that could be in it as a guideline. Thoughts? — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 07:44, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree, you'll see I started shying away from that pretty quickly. In general, museum in city if large enough, county otherwise. Type of museum in state, unless the city/county has so many of them to make it worthwhile. dm (talk) 13:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
OK, glad to hear it. I may remove the example above! — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 13:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I see you beat me too it! — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 16:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Art museums in Florida

I am undoing your edits for several art museums in Florida. I understand why it might be useful to separate museums vs. galleries, but this is the convention with all the state listings so far, so I do not recommend changing this category designation unless you focus on separating all the current listings in all the states and countries so far. Almost all the listings are museums anyway. It might be easier to create a new category for galleries and quick change those instead. Jllm06 (talk) 20:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, I see what you are doing in other states now. I'll change the rest of the art museums in Florida.

What should be done about art centers that also feature public galleries? There are many of them around the country. I think they should also be included in art galleries or else another category can be created and included in the art museums and galleries category. What do you think? Jllm06 (talk) 14:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Wiki-Conference New York Update: 3 weeks to go

For those of you who signed up early, Wiki-Conference New York has been confirmed for the weekend of July 25-26 at New York University, and we have Jimmy Wales signed on as a keynote speaker.

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Clay County Courthouse (Florida)

I checked as much as I could, and I agree that it is not a museum, just a historic site, so I removed the museum category and stub. There is a Clay County Historical Society Museum in a different location, and I will list it in the List of museums in Florida. The Historical Society holds their meetings at the courthouse. Jllm06 (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that is my goal. I am starting first on the full list of museums, then going by county, city, type, etc. It will take several days to get through them all, it's a big state! Eventually I hope to have all the museums in the state in the full list. Jllm06 (talk) 17:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
I agree, the Bowden Building is used for administrative offices, so it is not a museum itself. Jllm06 (talk) 17:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Possible move of Nazi plunder

I have started a discussion on possibly moving Nazi plunder. As you are currently a reasonably active editor, as well as a past contributor to the article, I hope you can find some time to make comments at renaming Nazi plunder. Unschool 17:46, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Jaggar Museum

Hello, it looks like you are refining the museum categories in some of the Hawaii articles. Generally a good idea, but I do have one nit. The Jaggar Museum is part of the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory, which is in turn on the land of the Hawaii Volcanoes National Park. So I think Thomas A. Jaggar Museum should redirect to the HVO article, not the general park one. For example, the HVO article has exact coordinates for it. Probably betterr would be to rework the park article include a section on the museums in it. I know of three so far: Jaggar, the Volcano Art Center, and the main Visitors Center (maybe there are more). Generally the redirect should go to the more specific article, not the more general one, right? If anyone has the time to enlarge the description of the Jaggar Museum to its own article, the redirect to the general park article makes even less sense. Any objection if I do this? Mahalo. I am also developing a small article on the museum for the Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument in Hilo, by the way. W Nowicki (talk) 21:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Category on Gibson Mansion

Hi, I noticed this diff, where you removed Category:Yolo County, California, and put Category:Museums in Yolo County, California, but the latter is uncreated. I don't know whether it should be created (at least at this point) because I think the Gibson Museum is the only museum in the county with a Wikipedia entry. I was going to say that I don't believe there are other museums, but now I can recall at least 1 more, but I don't know if it is notable (its a tractor museum). Killiondude (talk) 05:20, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:Brandywine Museums & Gardens Alliance

Hello, When I found the BM&GA Cat, it had 3 cats itself:

So I just added Category:Museums in Delaware so that both states are equally represented. Upon further review, I'm not sure the state grouping of museum orgs is helpful though. Basically, in the old model the, BM&GA cat showed up under Delaware Museums, Pennsylvania Museums, and the Museum organizations cats.

Now, there is a separate Delaware Museum Org cat and a separate PA Museum Org cat but neither has anything else in them and they are then placed under the same exact cats as the original BM&GA one. To me this just means readers will have to make extra clicks but get no additional information in return.

I usually don't create a Cat unless there are maybe 5 articles/cats in it or at least in the offing. Delaware has no other musuem organizations so this will permanently be a cat of 1. Maybe you have a different goal with these cats though? RevelationDirect (talk) 02:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Grouping of Delaware Museums

Since Delaware is such a small state, applying the cats say of California can be problematic. There are only 24 museum articles for the entire state but there are now 24 cats used to group them (seriously). Now, if you look at the List of museums in Delaware, there are certainly future articles that could be added but most of these are art or local history museums. There will only ever be one article in the Category:Sports museums in Delaware. Ditto with the aerospace cat.

I suspect what you're doing is looking at the national aerospace museum cat and eradicating all "loose" articles so that everything looks symetrical with just state sub-categories. But most readers come into these cats from a local article. If I go to the Delaware Sports Museum and Hall of Fame and click on the category, what do I learn? Not a thing.

I'm focused on the actual museum articles: 3 of those 24 articles are by me with more on the way. Your cats are factually accurate so I'm not going to actively frustrate your efforts. Just keep in mind what your one-article-foreverr cats look like from the perspective of a museum article in a small state. Thanks.RevelationDirect (talk) 03:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

At your suggestion, I posted about how to handle cats for smaller states at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Museums#Over-Categorization of Museums in Small States. Your perspective from working with all these cats would probably be very helpful there.RevelationDirect (talk) 05:08, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Anna Ranch Heritage Center

I'm not sure this is the "official name", but keep in mind, that because of the history of Hawaii, we are often dealing with multiple names. Whether this topic should be called Anna Ranch or Anna Ranch Heritage Center might be debatable, but if you look at the NRHP for Hawaii listings, you'll sometimes notice that a property listing has more than one name in use. Just something to keep in mind the next time you run into this. Viriditas (talk) 10:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


Delaware Museum of Natural History

Thanks! That looks good.RevelationDirect (talk) 02:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Museum categories

While I think some of your categorization changes are good, much of it is way too much overcategorization. Really, there aren't that many museums in Indiana, so breaking Category:Museums in Indiana down so far only spreads the articles too thin and eliminates usefulness and quality. Almost all of the county cats in Category:Museums in Indiana by county have only one member and will likely stay that way, which is useless. While Category:Military and war museums in Indiana may be good, you're going way too far with having Category:American Civil War museums in Indiana as well. Maybe other states have a few more museums to populate their categories, but some of these are excessive. Thanks, Reywas92Talk 03:36, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. -- Cuppysfriend (talk) 22:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Bellingrath Gardens and Home

Hey, I removed the category for Museums in Mobile, Alabama because Bellingrath isn't in the city of Mobile, it's in Mobile County. And it's already in Category:Historic house museums in Alabama, a subcategory of Category:Museums in Alabama. Altairisfartalk 18:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Cool, that's good to know. Altairisfartalk 18:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Contemporary art - gallery vs. museum

I am also confused by the existing categorizations for both and . There are many museums in the latter category, and some galleries in Modern art museums. The terms modern art and contemporary art also overlap a bit. The article Contemporary art gallery refers to both in common usage. Maybe they should be separated in a Contemporary art museums category and Modern art galleries, and then put the museums vs. the galleries in each section. They can be cross categorized and refer to each other. Jllm06 (talk) 16:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

St. Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church: Manhattan or Brooklyn

I created St. Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church (New York, New York), but then it seems 520 Clinton Street may be in Brooklyn, not in Manhattan. I wonder if you know of this / if you could figure this one out, perhaps moving the article to (Brooklyn, New York)? And then there would be need for note at wp:NRIS info issues and to update St. Luke's Protestant Episcopal Church disambiguation page. regards, doncram (talk) 13:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I moved it to (Brooklyn, New York). Maybe there are other ones in List of RHPs in Brooklyn with "New York" as city or county that oughta to be stubbed / noted in this way, though. It was confusing creating this article while doing the disambig page, rather than coming in from a county list-article. doncram (talk) 13:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice to meet you too, and snails

I am embarrassed to admit it, but I met so many people last Saturday that without a picture of your face, I am not sure which one you were! I am terrible with names... Forgive me. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 23:39, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I expect I would remember you if you could tell me what we talked about on Saturday 25th. So, do you have an image of the freshwater snail? How big was it? Was it found on the bottom of the lake or on weeds? Almost all snails are slimy to one degree or another, so that feature by itself is usually not too helpful in identifying them. If you go up there again maybe you can take your camera and try to grab a picture if you can find one again? Best, Invertzoo (talk) 12:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't seem to find an "email this user" link on your user page. Is it there and I am not seeing it? ... Invertzoo (talk) 14:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, I found it but it is not "on". You should be able to email me though. Invertzoo (talk) 22:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Caught it, fixed it, you're right. So often I am in a hurry because of undoing various anon vandalism, fixing poor new edits and the like, that I leave out edit summaries myself. Thanks for coming back to the page, and for your being cool about it. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 06:20, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Alan Garnett Davenport

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BorgQueen (talk) 08:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Broken Coords

Hi. In order to clean up Category:Coord template needing repair, would you mind if I changed some instances of {{coord}} in User:Dmadeo/nrhp-manhattan and User:Dmadeo/nytest? There are a dozen or so which have 60 seconds, and need to be rolled over to one more minute and zero seconds, e.g. from "{{coord|40|45|60|N..." to "{{coord|40|46|0|N...".
—WWoods (talk) 18:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Hartwick Pines State Park

If you haven't been there (I have), did you at least read this article? Your category changes are without foundation in fact. Before I revert this again, I thought we should discuss it.7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Stan

I reverted this again. Am taking it to the Discussion page. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Stan
Thank you for your personal note. Obviously, WP:AGF, and obviously, you are no WP:Vandal. No offense was intended, and I apologize if any was taken. Equally, I was oblivious to the redirect and its consequences. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Stan
I did take pictures, but they are on film and I don't know where the prints or negatives are (they are buried somewhere). I may be passing through in the next month or two, and some digital pics would be in order if I can find the time. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Stan

Pewabic Pottery‎

I noticed you changed categories. FYI, they do have a museum and exhibitions (both permanent and periodic) there. This is on the second floor, quite apart from the Gallery. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Stan

Missed that line in the WP article. I looked at the web site and saw what looked like galleries more than museum (as you probably know, the terms are sometimes used incorrectly). I sectioned off the museum line in the article and put the cats back in. dm (talk) 12:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
And the exhibits have been really spectacular, quite remarkable for a private museum (albeit with limited exhibition space). If you get out this way, it is worth the time. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Stan

North American Game Warden Museum

The interrelationship of Categories is something I don't totally understand (and actually don't particularly care about). When I created this article, I put in the categories I thought might apply. I may have gotten it wrong. Please review. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC) Stan

Higgins Armory

Ok thanks for clairifying. I just thought that you did not notice that in the article it stated the building is Art Deco, an offshoot of the international style. I am not competly familiar with the info box used on the page, so I assumed that the more percise term should be used. I completly understand why you perfer International Stlye instead. hope to see you agin sometime on here when we are not reverting each others edits!--Found5dollar (talk) 13:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Museum category move

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. I had been understandably confused, and I don't remember everything about that particular situation, but now that you've explained that you have rationale for it I'll go ahead and let you and others on the project team take care of it. ;-) Thanks, Jsharpminor (talk) 22:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

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Massachusetts Museum Cats

I just got back online and had a chance to take a look at all the Mass museum categories. I focused on all the cats that had 3 articles or fewer. (My personal standard is a minimum of 5 articles per cat but I think we can agree that a one-article cat is no cat at all and two articles can be better handled with a "See also" cross reference.) That gave me 10 suspect cats with only 1 or 2 articles. But, if I assume everything on the state museum list eventually becomes an article, we get down to only 1 cat with less than 3 potential articles: WWII Museums in MA.

I'm going to talk about that lone cat in a second but I don't want to miss the larger point: overall we're in complete agreement with the grouping here. You've done a really good job with these. Thank you!

OK, let's fine tune on a narrow exception. The cats for the Institute of Contemporary Art (an art museum with a modern focus) make sense to me because it is both in the state art museum cat and the national modern museum cat since there aren't enough museums to justify a state modern museum cat. In contrast, the Museum of World War II has a non-viable one-article-forever cat created just for it rather than listing it in both the state military cat and the national WWII cat, which is what I would favor.

Does that approach make sense to you? (If not, we're talking about only one lonely cat so we could just agree to disagree.) Oh, and I'll start snapping some photos once I come out of the woods.RevelationDirect (talk) 03:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

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Funny you should say that; I'm refining the article right now (I'd like to nominate it for FA maybe after the movie goes national on 9/11 (as it turns out), hopefully to get it to the Main Page on her 60th birthday (11/3). I'm watching the 60 Minutes profile right now and thinking about what I can use from it.

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Art museums

I agree that the type of museum should be by state. In NY there already exists the breakdown of art museums by county. I am very happy to remove the county breakdown and to keep it by NY state only. I was already going to do that for Living museums, which had been broken down by category. In fact, I was just trying to figure out how to delete a category. Do you know the proper way to delete a category that is no longer needed? Anyway, I shall go back to the art museums in NY and remove the county designations. Jllm06 (talk) 20:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Museum ships

I saw there was an existing category for museum ships, and the breakdown makes it easier to identify the actual ships vs. the maritime museums. Some ships are part of larger museums and some are stand-alone museum ships. There is also a category for ships preserved inside museums, i.e. not afloat but on land. The article Captain Meriwether Lewis (dustpan dredge) also includes the listing for the physically adjacent museum Museum of Missouri River History, so I kept this listing in both categories. I also did the same for the USS Intrepid because it includes so much more than the ship, the San Diego Aircraft Carrier Museum and a couple more, but I forget which ones now.

Also, should I remove the county breakdowns for art museums in NY? Thanks. Jllm06 (talk) 12:38, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I have broken out the museum ships for the states. I have also been working on NY state by county and I have almost finished it.Jllm06 (talk) 18:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Santa Fe County museums categories

Why are you removing all these museums, and moving them to the parent level, Museums of New Mexico (etc.)? This seems like going backwards? --Pete Tillman (talk) 04:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Las vegas museums

I have responded on my talk page. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

National Portrait Gallery (United States)

Is there a museums infobox or another different infobox which could be used at National Portrait Gallery (United States), in lieu of the NRHP infobox there? The historic building is covered as Old Patent Office Building which has the NRHP infobox. I wonder if you could put in a new infobox; i may drop the NRHP one. I came across it while doing cleanup of NRHP infobox issues. The building is an NHL. doncram (talk) 16:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

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Open Air museums/Living museums/Historic house museums - Hi, I've been taking a break from editing articles for a few weeks. About these museums, I agree that there is no clear definition of these areas, and the reason I cross-referenced them was that I did not want people looking for historic houses to miss the other categories, and vice versa. Many museums blur across categories, so it's hard to know what's appropriate. I am of the mind to be more inclusive vs. rigid in definitions.

I have no problems about deleting the Mining Museums in NC category. What is db-author? Jllm06 (talk) 15:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

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Two questions - 1) Why did you remove the parent categories from Category:Historic house museums in Newport, Rhode Island? and 2) Why did you remove Category:Historic house museums in Newport, Rhode Island from all of the articles? ex: The Elms (Newport, Rhode Island) APK because, he says, it's true 21:03, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

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FYI, I've reverted one of your edits on Plumb House (Waynesboro, Virginia). Plumb House falls within the city limits of Waynesboro, which, due to Virginia's treatment of cities as independent from their surrounding counties, makes it not within Augusta County. If you've never lived in Virginia, this treatment of cities is somewhat strange, and even many longtime Virginia residents don't quite "get" how cities are handled. SchuminWeb (Talk) 08:03, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

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Daybreak Cultural Center

Art gallery vs. museum - good question, but since they categorized themselves as a gallery, I thought it should be listed as such. If you want to switch it back, no problem. I added them to the list in the state. The whole issue of such distinctions is tricky, since many galleries also have collections, and there are non-collecting museums! Also, in the list of museums for each state, I am starting to add a note at the top in the list description that the list also includes non-profit and university art galleries. Jllm06 (talk) 18:26, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

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