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Doubt on Egyptian left-wingers at the 1934 World Cup

Hi Nehme1499, I'd like to take advantage again of your kindness and expertise to solve a dilemma that I stumbled upon. Wikipedia reports in the squad page and in the related article Mohammed Hassan (footballer, born 1905) as being part of the Egyptian squad taking part at the 1934 World Cup. However, as the note number two of Mohammed Hassan's article hints at, a variety of sources cite Mohammed Hassan Helmy (which we list as having been part only of the 1936 Olympic squad) as playing the game against Hungary. Some of these sources are Soccerway, 11v11 and FIFA. So, the question is: who was in the squad? Mohammed Hassan Moussa born 5 February 1905 or Mohammed Hassan Helmy born 13 February 1912? Bear in mind that no source mentions both of them, it's either one or the other. Can it be that FIFA and the other outlets have made confusion because of the similarities of the two names? I am saying this because this website lists the full name as Mohammed Hassan Helmy Moussa. I hope to have been clear. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. --Tanonero (msg) 11:06, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tanonero, thanks for the kind words. Examining the Egyptian website we previously used as a source for the Egypt national football team in the 1934 FIFA World Cup, I have found the player "Mohammed Hassan" playing in attack as well as a "Helmy Moustafa" (most likely "Moustafa Helmi Youssef" in the wikipedia article) playing in midfield. I have found no "Mohammed Hassan Helmy" in the website, and the only player who has "Mohammad Hassan" in his name is "Mohammad Hassan" himself; as of what I can see in the website, Mohammed Hassan WAS part of the 1934 squad while Mohammed Hassan Helmy was NOT. I hope this cleared up your doubts regarding the Egyptian side in the 1934 World Cup.Nehme1499 (talk) 11:40, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
@Nehme1499: That's what I thought (that is that Wikipedia got it right), thanks for confirming. Have a nice day and until the next wiki interaction. Tanonero (msg) 12:24, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, it was nice speaking to you too! Nehme1499 (talk) 12:49, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Recent changes

Hi there. :-) It looks like a typo crept into your recent copy-and-paste changes: "Juvenus U23" instead of "Juventus U23". I fixed Idrissa Touré but others probably require fixing, too. Regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@Robby.is.on: Hi Robby, thanks for letting me know about the typos! I just fixed them all, if there are any other problems please don't hesitate to tell me. Nehme1499 (talk) 19:39, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome. Well done! :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 16:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Damascus Arabic page's discussion

Hello Mr Nehme, Thank you a lot for contributing positively to DA page :) I noticed that you removed 'Syrian' and 'Levantine' as alternative names for 'Damascus Arabic'. I agree with removing 'Levantine' as it is not the name for the dialect; however, yes, I know that the 'Syrian [Arabic]' and 'Damascus Arabic' are not the same thing (as Syrian Arabic is a broader term that covers many dialects in Syria) but this is a very common name for this dialect in the Middle East and among western researchers and as such, I had added it with the addition that it is merely a loose usage. Mark Enlightenment (talk) 11:45, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Mark Enlightenment: regarding the previous questions you have posted on the talk page:
  • I have corrected the "double Damascus Arabic" problem.
  • The picture can't be uploaded, the only way for you to upload it is if you recreate it from scratch or find one that doens't have copyright restrictions (Google search --> tools --> usage rights --> labeled for reuse with modification).
  • I renamed it as اللهجة الدمشقية‎ (literally "Damascene dialect") because of the fact that اللهجة الشامية was already used for Levantine Arabic.
As for removing "Syrian", I would have no problem in adding it as you are right in saying that it is a bit of a "gray" area". I think we should take the discussion back to the talk page and alert @IamNotU:.
Nehme1499 (talk) 11:54, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks! I am afraid that I had to delete my previous comments on the talk page as it hadn't had my signature.
Mark Enlightenment (talk) 12:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Lebanon squad-2019 AFC Asian Cup squads

Oumari's contract expires 5 days before the Asian Cup, the season in J League has also ended. Therefore I think that his club is essentially Al-Nasr.--Anbans 585 (talk) 15:46, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes I just realized that he was only on loan to Sagan Tosu, I thought it was a typo by the AFC. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Nehme1499 (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

AFC Asian Cup squads

Do you have some kind of proper source which shows about how many goals he scored, for example the AFC document showed that Mat Leckie scored 8 goals, but I found 9 of his goals at youtube, which proves that the AFC document was wrong "here".--Anbans 585 (talk) 18:55, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi, for the Lebanese players I use NFT.com. I add up both “fifa matches” and “non-fifa matches” together as it’s sometimes unclear which matches it deems to be unofficial. Nehme1499 (talk)
You can find the official FIFA labelled matches on the FIFA website. Also it would be very helpful if you can find some kind of video reference or a news reference (a good reference) which may state it more clearly. Also ping me while replying, that will help me in replying you more quickly.--Anbans 585 (talk) 20:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Also I will give you an example of how some matches aren't considered, Mohammed Al-Breik is shown to score 1 goal against Jamaica in a friendly last year, which makes his no. of goals scored equals to 1 but the match was widely considered a training match and not an official match, thus "here" the AFC document is correct.--Anbans 585 (talk) 20:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
@Anbans 585: Hi, the problem isn't exactly knowing which matches are unofficial but knowing in which of the unofficial matches a player has or hasn't played. For example Maatouk is widely regarded as having scored 19 goals for the national team by different media (the importance of the 19 goals is that he is 1 off from the record of the Lebanese national team), but NFT.com considers 1 of his goals as unofficial. The problem is I don't know which of these matches is "unofficial" for NFT (the AFC document considers Maatouk as having 19 goals btw). As for my example of a player having a goal less on the AFC document than on NFT, both have the same appearances; this means that for the AFC, in a certain match, this player HASN'T scored when in fact he has (the AFC says that he has scored 3 in 20 when in fact he has scored 4 in 20). I wouldn't use the document for the statistics, only for the shirt numbers. Nehme1499 (talk) 23:52, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Can you list out all the discrepancies, you think there are in the AFC document?Anbans 585 (talk) 00:13, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
@Anbans 585: As for the Lebanese team, these are the discrepancies I have found:
  • Nour Mansour's DoB (listed as born in '89 but actually born in '91, month and days are also different)
  • Maatouk's DoB (month and day are inverted)
  • Rabih Ataya (the document says that he has scored 3 goals in 20 apps while in actuality he has scored 4 goals in 20 apps)
  • Robert Alexander Melki and George Felix Melki's positions are swapped
I'm sure there are other inconsistencies, but these are the ones I have noticed (as well as other minor differences in appearences and goals). Nehme1499 (talk) 00:30, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Okay first up can you give me a source which makes you so sure about the birthdates of Mansour and Maatouk, please don’t give NFT as a reference, there is also a chance that they may be wrong. A social media happy bday message would probably be enough.Anbans 585 (talk) 07:40, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

@Anbans 585: I have found other 2 incorrect DoBs: Mohamed Zein Tahan, who's birthday is reported to be the 20 of April on the document and 2 of April on other websites (as well as his Instagram post posted on the next day) and Walid Ismail (AFC says 10 November, other websites say 11).
I would say that the AFC is right on this one.
Also, for Nour Mansour, Eurosport and NFT say that he's born in '91, while Soccerway and Footballdatabase say '89 so I'm not sure on this one.
I will try to directly contact the players or reliable Lebanese sources on these inconsistencies.
P.S. I relised that I made a mistake on Maatouk as I probably got the information from an American website (swapping day and month): this isn't NFT's fault. Nehme1499 (talk) 09:02, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
The birthdates written in the document are the birthdates submitted by the player themselves during the registration process. See the AFC registration process for reference. That’s why if we are not sure about a particular info we should use the AFC document as the stats mentioned in it are submitted by the respective national football association. Also you should use globalsportsarchive.com as it contains database of birthdates of many players and is computer maintained, i.e. there is a very less chance of human error there. NFT soccerway etc are human maintained that is why there their may be a chance of human error.Anbans 585 (talk) 09:10, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
@Anbans 585: Hi, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes I have noticed that Nour Mansour's DoB was incorrect after consulting with a Lebanese football expert. I have therefore changed all the DoBs (and heights) of the Lebanese players according to the AFC document. I am still unsure about caps and goals: Rabih Ataya's goals count is of 3 for the AFC and 4 everywhere else (I have checked the goals and they are in official matches): also, the caps are the same (20) so it's not a matter of what the AFC counts as an official match or not. The only explanation I can give is if a goal was an "own goal" for the AFC and a goal for Ataya for other sources, but I don't remember of such a goal. Thanks again, Nehme1499 (talk) 21:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lebanon national football team

The article Lebanon national football team you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lebanon national football team for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Lee Vilenski -- Lee Vilenski (talk) 17:02, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting this article to GA status Nehme! Sorry I couldn't help much. Italy national team next! I've already begun a couple weeks ago adding to the kit section and fixing the lead - and by removing POV many months ago. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
@Vaselineeeeeeee: Hi, thanks so much! Of course I will contribute to the Italy national team, getting both my national teams to GA world be incredible! Whenever you need help tell me, I will try to improve the article when I can. Nehme1499 (talk) 20:09, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: Fiji national team GA

Well yeah that is the goal sort of, but this is mainly done from looking at the Spanish version of the same page and putting my own words into it. The problem is the fact that unlike the Lebanon page, Fiji doesn't much in terms of trying to find useful information. Not Homura (talk) 06:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

For me, I feel like I wouldn't do my end of the deal as I am a person who doesn't really review articles and when I do, I leave that review for a good week or two before actually doing it. Not Homura (talk) 05:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I presume you understand Italian

I assume from your bio you speak Italian if you could provide any extra information on Women's football in Italy I would be most grateful. Dwanyewest (talk) 14:30, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest hi, yes I do speak Italian. I have added some information to the page, mainly taken from Campionato italiano di calcio femminile. I have tried to translate it as best as I could, though I'm sure it requires some cleaning up. Let me know if you need any more help! Nehme1499 (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Re: Nehme

It's not usually very convenient for me to view on-line videos. I don't have any particular knowledge of dialectal colloquial Arabic (some knowledge of standard written Arabic and a lot of knowledge of linguistic concepts). AnonMoos (talk) 03:09, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Italy women's

Hi Nehme, hope you've been doing well. I was going to try and translate the history section at the Italian page for Italy women's national football team into English as we do not even have a history section here. But perhaps you may be better suited to do it if you have time? Let me know. After I did the head to head records, I was planning to make a table of the top 10 appearances and scorers, but the FIGC site is a mess compared to what I see for the players on the Italian wiki for various reasons they cite. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:55, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Vaselineeeeeeee! I was intending on translating the history section from the Italian page to the English one in the coming days, but in the meantime I put the template notice at the top with the hope someone else would have picked it up. I'll take care of both the history section and the top 10 apps/scorers in the near future. Nehme1499 (talk) 20:06, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Mostafa Matar

Hi! I worte Draft:Mostafa Matar, could you check it and move it to main space wiki. So thank you ! —Justice,ScienceandFree (talk · contribs)

@Justice,ScienceandFree: Hi! Good job in creating the draft, I added some more information. There is one problem: the draft won't be accepted as he won't be deemed "notable" for Wikipedia (he either has to play for a professional league, which the Lebanese Football League isn't, or play even one minute for the national team, which he is yet to do). When he does at least one of those two things then the draft will be accepted. If you need anything else don't hesitate to ask! Nehme1499 (talk) 04:25, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, Nehme! —Justice,ScienceandFree (talk · contribs)
@Justice,ScienceandFree: Hey, I just wanted to let you know that Mostafa Matar is now in the main space as he has debuted on 8 August 2019! Nehme1499 (talk) 01:16, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

FIFA international result pages

Hello, I recall you asking once at WT:FOOTY about FIFA's list of international matches. I too was disappointed to see it gone, though I just have had a realisation. FIFA have a 'static' version of their website prior to more recent redesigns (static.fifa.com). So if you use that version of the website, the international results are still there, for example here. S.A. Julio (talk) 00:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@S.A. Julio: This is really helpful, thanks! I have been using a waybackmachine-stored version of the website, though often it displays weirdly and not in the intended layout. Too bad FIFA opted to remove the fixture list, so from 2019 onward we wont have the official matches. But still, for past matches it's very useful! Nehme1499 (talk) 01:29, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

List of national association football teams by nickname

Hi I see you have been dividing this page by continent, I have been adding descriptions of Nicknames and teams. I would be interested in doing the next one which is CAF africa if you don't mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronniegregorym (talk • contribs) 10:37, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@Ronniegregorym:  Done. By the way thanks for all your help! Nehme1499 (talk) 13:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
thanks and its no problem man. am just trying to help out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronniegregorym (talk • contribs) 14:49, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: 2019 Lebanese Super Cup

I can take a look at that tomorrow night or Tuesday morning, if you don't mind waiting. – PeeJay 22:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry mate, I just haven't had time. Let me have a go now. – PeeJay 14:43, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Danny El-Hage nationality

Born in Poland to a Polish mother and Lebanese father. The description Polish-Lebanese is most correct. Amsport12345 (talk) 15:41, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

@Amsport12345: Hi, this issue has already been discussed at WP:FOOTY in this discussion. The preferred form for players with dual nationality is to omit it from the first sentence, and then explain it further down. In Danny's case it would be best to just write "...is a professional football who plays as a goalkeeper for..." and then explain in another sentence that he has both nationalities has his father is Lebanese and his mother is Polish. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:09, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply. The cases mentioned in the above discussion are different to this case. In the case of Danny El-Hage, he is as equally Polish as he is Lebanese without any controversies over origin or citizenship. Thus the description Polish-Lebanese is totally correct, making the lead brief and concise. The explanation about his parents should be placed further down in article if necessary. The fact that he represented Lebanon in youth categories is also mentioned further down in the article it can be omitted from the lead. The player is also eligible to represent Poland at international level. Thank you. Amsport12345 (talk) 16:40, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
@Amsport12345: There are other players who were born with both nationalities, see Bassel Jradi and Soony Saad for example. Also see Diego Costa and Wilfried Zaha, who represented both national teams.The lede serves as a summary of the article below, information shouldn't be omitted from it just because it is present below. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:55, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply. I noticed that the Article was moved into draft space. Why would that be ? Amsport12345 (talk) 13:51, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
@Amsport12345: Hi, I realized that the player hasn’t played in a professional league, nor has he played for a senior National team yet. Therefore he isn’t notable per Wikipedia notability guidelines (WP:NFOOTY). Nehme1499 (talk) 14:01, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the reply. The player is currently playing in a professional league, that is the Armenian Premier League. The guidelines you mentioned are not a formal Wikipedia Policy as well. Article should be moved back to main space. Thank you. Amsport12345 (talk) 14:12, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

@Amsport12345: If you can provide a reliable source stating that the Armenian league is professional, you can open a discussion at WP:FOOTY and see if a consensus is reached. If people deem it to be pro then the guidelines can be changed and Danny will be moved back to the main space (once he debuts for the team). Nehme1499 (talk) 14:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Per WP:DRAFTS you are expected to reverse unilateral moves from the main- to the draft-space if someone objects, so I have moved the page back. In the same vein, draftifying should not really be used as an alternative to deletion where the are no concerns with the content of a page. If you have notability concerns, please follow the normal deletion procedures at WP:AfD. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:20, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello Sir Sputnik, thank you for reversing the unilateral draftifying of the Article. The article has now been listed for deletion by Nehme1499. I would like to point out that this action was based on bias. As we can see Nehme1499 articles cover Lebanese players in 90%. He tried making changes to the article to make the Player Danny El-Hage look as if he is solely lebanese ignoring his Polish origins. When that failed he proceeded to draftifying the article and when that was reversed also he proceeded to listing the article for deletion. No for bias. Regards Amsport12345 (talk) 04:30, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Re: LebanonFG template

Hello, and thanks for asking. I'm afraid that these days I don't understand much of the code either. In recent times such templates have been enhanced to work with Wikidata and to include a lot more error-checking than 10 years ago or whenever {{Soccerway}} and the like were first created. You'd do better asking for help from someone who works with templates, such as Frietjes, or to post on WT:FOOTY where someone with technical competence might see it.

Don't know if you intend your template to be just for the External links section or to be usable as a citation as well. If the latter, you might want to base it on something like {{NFT player}}, which outputs a cite-web formatted citation if the accessdate parameter is supplied, where the Soccerway one has just been fudged to add an accessdate on the end of external-link type formatting.

Sorry I can't be of more help. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:16, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Ndjoli

Hi Nehme,

Just wondering why you are sure that Eurosport's DOB for the player is correct but the one shown on Soccerbase, Soccerway, the official Premier League site, the official site of his current club, etc, is wrong? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:57, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude: To be fair I'm not. I just AGF for User:Edited2019 and added a reliable source to back up his claims. I then realized that even the Premier League and his club have him as born in '98, not '97, so I have reverted my edit. Nehme1499 (talk) 10:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Since you speak Italian

As you happen to understand Italian would you be able to help with this football article Mai dire Gol please? Dwanyewest (talk) 15:29, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Dwanyewest: I've added more information and sources to the article. Let me know if you need anything else. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:01, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

"byefhamsh" is Lebanese too :P

My bad for removing that bolding without checking the other user-lang templates, but I was amused at the edit to ما بيفهم haha.

By the way, I saw you asked for a "Help:IPA/Lebanese Arabic" page. Would it need to refer to external sources? I see that e.g. the Egyptian one doesn't have any references, but I'm not sure if that's the norm. If it is, and the Lebanese page doesn't need any citations, I can try to put it together at some point (maybe within the month). M. I. Wright (talk) 07:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

@M. I. Wright: hey, first of all welcome to Wikipedia! I've noticed that you made your first edits about a month ago, so if you need anything just let me know.
Regarding "byefhamsh", yeah I know it's lebanese too ahahahah. The X-sh for negatives is only used in certain areas of Lebanon though, I felt that "ma + X" is a bit less "day3a" if you know what I mean ahahaha.
I think that it should be possible to find some external sources for Lebanese pronunciations (probably some are available at Lebanese Arabic). I personally don't care if sources are included, but still the page could be potentially nominated for deletion.
Thanks, Nehme1499 (talk) 10:10, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, that's completely fair. Regarding sources -- I'll see what I can pull up. If there's nothing completely usable, though, I might just follow Egyptian's lead and go ahead with it (how annoying that there isn't anything as convenient + comprehensive for us as Cowell's Syrian Arabic reference!) M. I. Wright (talk) 09:16, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
@M. I. Wright: Hey, just wanted to let you know I created User:Nehme1499/sandbox/Help:IPA/Lebanese_Arabic based on the Egyptian one and the Lebanese Arabic page. Feel free to add info and change what needs to be changed, as I'm not an expert in phonology. Thanks, Nehme1499 (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Palestine NT

Hello Nehme, well I think it's better to rewrite the article from the beginning since most of it have been written before 2012. However there is no problem if we kept the most up-to-date content. We should focus primarily on the introduction and history section. The infobox, statistics and current squad is easy and will not take that much time. We can use one of our's sandbox if you want. Here is some helpful sources ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]). Thanks--Sakiv (talk) 17:06, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

@Sakiv: I have created a sandbox for us to work on this (User:Nehme1499/sandbox/Palestine national football team). I have just put the sections and sub-sections we should fill out (based on Lebanon national football team and Belgium national football team). I have taken care of the infobox, I'll work on other sections such as the player records (top scorers etc.); feel free to add content to the empty sections, I'll use the sources you linked to help you out. Nehme1499 (talk) 23:17, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks to you my friend. I'm grateful for that.--Sakiv (talk) 14:02, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
@Sakiv: I've added some brackets which we should replace with the appropriate info. I've also added a few tables, let me know what you think for now. Nehme1499 (talk) 15:53, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
You are doing perfectly , I will concentrate on the history section.--Sakiv (talk) 17:23, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I see that work on the draft have been stalled in the last two weeks. Are there any problem? We can publish what we have done so far and begin with the all-time record and results pages.--Sakiv (talk) 08:48, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Sakiv: Hey, I have exams in this period so it's a bit difficult for me to work on it at the moment. I've updated the Palestine national football team page with the info we have added until now. All that needs to be done in the sandbox is to add the content in square brackets: we know what to add, all we have to do now is add it. Nehme1499 (talk) 17:07, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

IMDb

Please don't cite the IMDb or copy its content into Wikipedia. The IMDb is user-generated content and not a reliable source. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:10, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: Ok, I'll make sure to be more careful next time. Nehme1499 (talk) 14:15, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Juventus template squad list

Hi, on Juventus official website for this season there is not a section called "First Team", I don't know why. So, for the whole team, the only good link to follow is this, in which are present that players, who came from Juventus U23 last month, were being called by the First Team, such as this news in which Coccolo is in the list.--79.34.216.248 (talk) 18:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

@79.34.216.248: Yeah you are right. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. (btw, I think it would be better for you to create an account, so that it's easier to reach you if someone wanted to contact you). Nehme1499 (talk) 18:46, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I perfectly know this, but at the moment I enjoy editing as IP. See you, have a good time on this websie. :)--79.34.216.248 (talk) 19:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

wish you had discussed before nominating

If you had asked before doing this articles for Major League Soccer would not look like shit a few weeks before their season starts. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:36, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: I did, calm down. Go check the WikiProject talk page, where two other editors and I were favourable to merging the two templates. Neither you, nor other editors, opposed the idea of a TfM. The least of my concerns is "articles for MLS looking like shit", it's not my fault TfM discussions do that to templates. Nehme1499 (talk) 23:40, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
I see. So you discussed that the project, not the template. They have regularly misapplied of ACCESS and FLAG among other guidelines and polices. Discussion should have been on the template not somewhere else. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:47, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
@Walter Görlitz: considering that the template is within the scope of the project, and (presumably) everyone who has the template under their watchlist also have the project in their watchlist, I thought it would have been a better idea to list it in the project as it would have received a higher response. Nehme1499 (talk) 23:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Considering the template has a talk page, you discuss it there first as the people who actually care about it and not the project are watching that. If there's no discussion, you take it to the project. The underlying problems is that you did not think it through correctly. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
@Walter Görlitz: I went through the correct Templates for discussion procedure, so I would say that I did "think it through correctly". There is no policy against directly nominating templates for deletion/merging (which I haven't really done, considering that i have brought the issue to the attention of the project talk page), so just live with the fact that the MLS articles are going to look "like shit" for a few days, and discuss your arguments in the discussion page. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
You've missed the point completely.
  1. Discuss on the template's talk page.
  2. If no response, discuss at the appropriate projects.
  3. Take to TfD.
There is no policy that you have to do anything with common sense, but it's strongly advised.
Again, missing the point: this is the start of their season so more people will be going to their articles now. And it's not just MLS. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:13, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: common sense, for me, is to take the discussion directly to the inherent project talk page. The fewer than 30 watchers of the template are all going to be part of the 864 watchers of the WikiProject Football page, meaning that they would all be notified of the discussion regardless of whether it appears under the template talk page or the project talk page. No one opposed, three (myself included) were favourable, so I did what common sense dictated. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:38, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

And yet taking it to that talk page was clearly the wrong thing to do. Don't ping me again. I know you think you did the right thing and nothing you write will convince me that you actually did. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
@Walter Görlitz: It was nice having this discussion with you. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Category re-ordering once more

(from WT:WPF)

I see this has happened again with re-ordering without anything added except the "authority control" template which I don't see (e.g. Jack Butland). Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:10, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

@Iggy the Swan: I don't know, doesn't really make sense to just re-order the categories. Regardless, since he isn't doing any harm I wouldn't consider it a problem. I also sometimes re-order them to make sure everything is there (because I have a specific order in my head, which differs from the order another user might have). I only apply the edit if something has actually changed though (added or removed); in the case of Butland, the user added a template so it's ok for me.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge

Hi, would love to see your articles up there, we don;t have any coming in from Lebanon.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:43, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Hey, thanks for bringing up this challenge to my attention! I have added all my created articles to "Article achievements 3001–4000", and all my promoted artiles (GAs, FAs, etc.) to "Quality articles". A couple of questions: should I add the disambiguation pages I created as well? And what about pages such as Help:IPA/Lebanese Arabic, do those also count? Finally, should I add my GAs, FAs and DYKs to "Article achievements 3001–4000" as well? Thanks, Nehme1499 (talk) 14:06, 26 February 2020 (HTC)
Thanks, just articles and lists for this, GA articles most welcome! It's good fun seeing articles come in from different countries! If you know anybody else who might be interested spread the word!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:25, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: Sure, I'll make sure to let other users know! Nehme1499 (talk) 14:26, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Nehme1499 so surprise when you send a message to me. I forgot send you a thank you because your article List of international goals scored by Hassan Maatouk, I was translation it to Vietnamese. Good job. Đông Minh (talk) 14:29, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

@Đông Minh: Hey, thanks for your kind words! One question, did you also translate other Lebanese pages into the Vietnamese wikipedia? Because I've noticed a lot of pages of Lebanese players, for example, have translations in Vietnamese. Nehme1499 (talk) 15:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
Nehme1499, many members do it. I'm just only write about any articles to DYK, for WikiProject Lebanon on Vietnamese wiki. i'm think I should write about FA, GA about Lebanon. But, in present, I'm almost stop my doing. Because, some members in Vietnam wiki decry me, they tell me, my translation not good. So that. I'm almost stop my active, Đông Minh (talk) 16:07, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

I found a Lebanese article in need of fixing

I think this article Basketball in Lebanon could do with some updating. Dwanyewest (talk) 15:58, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Dwanyewest, unfortunately I have 0 knowledge about basketball! I would feel more comfortable updating a page about women's youth football in Nepal, than basketball in Lebanon/Italy. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
That's fine but could you do me one favour please. On Women's football in Sweden it has linked to it an Italian wiki page that doesn't belong there could you please remove it. Dwanyewest (talk) 16:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
@Dwanyewest:  Done Nehme1499 (talk) 16:31, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Ademola Kuti

I'm wondering why you tagged this for deletion as "Pure vandalism and blatant hoaxes"? You also tagged it as A7, which makes some sense, but G3 does not. I've checked the references provided, and they seem to check out. Would you please explain why you think it is vandalism or a hoax? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

@ONUnicorn: He's nowhere to be found on Soccerway, the article states that he was the top scorer of Fujairah at the UAE Pro-League in the 2017–18 season. However, Fujairah was not there at all that season, but in the division below. Two sources are Transfermarkt, an unreliable source, while I have the suspicion that the other two are fake websites, used with the intent to mask fake articles. Notice how both the pages use exactly the same (low resolution) photo of Maradona: a coincidence? Anyway, after all this has been said, he clearly doesn't pass WP:GNG, and there are no sources to verify that he has actually played for the teams stated in the infobox (therefore, not passing WP:NFOOTY). Nehme1499 (talk) 21:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I was wondering if my lack of knowledge about soccer sources and/or Nigerian sources might be the source of my confusion as to why you thought it was a hoax. That explains it. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Withdrawn AfD nominations

I just wanted to clarify that you intended to withdraw both Jesper Tolinsson and Farid Nabiyev? If not, please revert my closures.

You can withdraw articles yourself by visiting Special:Preferences section Gadgets and installing XFDcloser, then closing as "Speedy keep, nomination withdrawn". buidhe 19:49, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

@Buidhe: Yes, I intended to withdraw both nominations. Thanks for letting me know about XFDcloser! Nehme1499 (talk) 19:53, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Atto Abbas

Hello Nehme1499 I have made couple of research and improved the article Atto Abbas on draft please check it and Check all the sources they are notable now and verified thank you . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.54.125.39 (talk) 06:39, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Denis Irwin

Firstly, WP:BRD. You were bold, I reverted, next a discussion should have been initiated, which I'll do here. In your edit summary you linked to this discussion, but I don't see anywhere where it is even mentioned including a reference column, let alone there be any sort of consensus. I see that WP:FOOTY/Players doesn't encourage it either. Perhaps I'm missing something? Mattythewhite (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mattythewhite: The discussion is part of the talk page of WP:FOOTY/Players, meaning that the way we should display that table is under discussion. By linking to the discussion I meant to link you to my comment regarding writing "Source:[1]". I was unaware of WP:BRD, so I'll pay more attention next time. Nehme1499 (talk) 15:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Oksen Ourfalian

I went ahead and speedy deleted the redirects for Oksen Ourfalian that you nominated for RfD per WP:G7. Just for future reference, if you created a page by mistake, you can tag it with {{db-author}}, and an admin will come around and delete it. I do want to point out, I see that you're making a lot of moves to the same pages. Please try to decide what you want to use as the title for the article before you start it, which should help cut down on some of those moves. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 20:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Tavix: Thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure to use {{db-author}} next time (and to not move pages too many times). Nehme1499 (talk) 20:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week

Hello there. This is an invitation to join the 50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week. £250 (c. $310) is being given away in May, June and July with £20 worth of prizes to give away every week for most articles destubbed. Each week there is a different region of focus, including one week dedicated to South-South East Asia, though half the prize will still be rewarded for articles on any subject. There's a potential £120 to be won in total for destubbing on any subject or region of your choice. Sign up if you want to contribute at least one of the weeks or support the idea! † Encyclopædius 11:31, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

@Encyclopædius: Hi, thanks for the invite! Unfortunately, 99% of my edits encompass articles related to Football in Lebanon. As far as I can see, Lebanon isn't included in the challenge, so it's going to be hard for me to participate. Still, appreciate the invite nonetheless. Nehme1499 (talk) 15:44, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
There's £120 to be won for destubbing articles on any topic of choice during it, including Lebanese football! It's not compulsory to follow the weekly suggestion! All destubs are accepted!† Encyclopædius 15:52, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

CFD - Category:Association football positions

I note you have made the decision to re-list your own nomination, complete with more arguments for the changes, which is entirely inappropriate. You should have let an uninvolved party review the discussion and decide what action to take. Please self-revert ASAP before I escalate this matter at ANI. GiantSnowman 17:02, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: The discussion wasn't going anywhere, and a week had already passed. The closing procedure states: "After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion." It doesn't mention anything about "uninvolved parties". Nehme1499 (talk) 17:08, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
That is clearly inferred, otherwise the somebody who closes the discussion as a eg 'delete' could be the nominator every time! GiantSnowman 17:10, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: Regardless, I brought the discussion to the WikiProject Football talk page, so I have no issue in closing reverting the nomination. Nehme1499 (talk) 17:14, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Good news

Hi, I've updated the 50,000 Destubbing Challenge, it's now destubs on any Asian country eligible for a prize. so you could expand the Lebanese footballer stubs and compete for it if you wanted!† Encyclopædius 18:25, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Encyclopædius: Thanks for letting me know! I'll get straight to work. Nehme1499 (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Don't forget to also add the entries to the big list on the main destubbing page too! I added one.† Encyclopædius 21:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
@Encyclopædius: Ah true, thanks for letting me know. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Greek football names

Hello, how are you? As i saw you correctly be renamed and moved two pages of Greek football clubs (Apollon Smyrnis F.C. and Asteras Tripolis F.C.) and i know some more pages of Greek football clubs or footballers that need also that:

Greek football clubs
Greek footballers

Also, can you remove this file from wikipedia File:AEK Athletic Club.png? I updated it but it not exist anymore.

Thanks a lot! GRanemos1 (talk) 16:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi @GRanemos1, I've taken a look at what names UEFA uses:
Greek football clubs
Greek footballers
In conclusion, we should change PAE Kerkyra to Kerkyra F.C., Fokikos A.C. to Fokikos F.C., Nikolaos Aggelakis to Nikolaos Angelakis, Ioannis Gounaris to Giannis Gounaris, Spiros Marangos to Spyros Marangos, Yannis Anastasiou to Giannis Anastasiou, and Ioannis Samaras to Giannis Samaras. As for File:AEK Athletic Club.png, it seems to be used in A.E.K. (sports club), which has a different logo than AEK Athens F.C.. Thoughts? Nehme1499 (talk) 18:40, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
About Giannis Matzourakis' name is 100% fault because there is no the n (Γιάννης Μαντζουράκης as you can see in Greek wikipedia). Also, PAE Chania will be like PAE Kerkyra (Chania F.C.). About the logo of A.E.K. (sports club) is a different logo now so if you can remove this file from wikipedia (i do not know how to do it, sorry). The emblem of AEK Athens F.C. is different because is a department of AEK Athletic Club (not sports club) and as the legislation says here in Greece they have to use different logos. GRanemos1 (talk) 09:43, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Also, Yiannis Papadopoulos be renamed and moved to Giannis Papadopoulos, Marios Ogkmpoe be renamed and moved to Marios Ogboe, Marcos Vellidis be renamed and moved to Markos Vellidis and Stylianos Vasileiou be renamed and moved to Stelios Vasiliou GRanemos1 (talk) 10:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: If you want, you can manually try to move all the articles you feel need to be moved, by going to the page in question, and moving your cursor over "More" in the toolbar at the top of the page. Then, press "Move" and type the new name. If it won't let you move certain pages, then try making a proposal for a move at Wikipedia:Requested moves, making sure to read the instructions. I'm still confused about the AEK logo situation, is their current logo different than the one displayed at A.E.K. (sports club)? If so, can you send me a link to the current logo? Thanks, Nehme1499 (talk) 16:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello again. I send you all those to do it because i do not know how to do it (for real). I tryed to move Yiannis Papadopoulos as you said but they do not let me because the page was right (Giannis Papadopoulos) before. About AEK logo i am trying to delete it and update it in another file because they said that it only should used by A.E.K. (sports club), but this file and logo also uses AEK V.C. and AEK Women's Volleyball Club as you can see here: www.aek.gr GRanemos1 (talk) 20:40, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: I've taken care of the logo situation, it's now on both AEK V.C. and AEK Women's Volleyball Club, and shouldn't be deleted in the future. As for being unable to move pages, it's the same for me. I don't have any special permissions for moving over redirects, so the only solution is to go to Wikipedia:Requested moves. This is what you should do:
  1. Go to Wikipedia:Requested moves/Controversial
  2. Go to the "Requesting multiple page moves" section
  3. Copy the code displayed (the one that starts with "{{subst:requested move..."), and paste it at the end of the talk page article of which you want to change its name (for example, Talk:PAE Kerkyra)
  4. Fill in the code with all the clubs you want to change (the code only goes up to "current3" and "new3", you have to add "current4" and "new4", "current5" and "new5", etc.)
  5. Now after you are done with the clubs, do the same for the players. So, copy the code from Requesting multiple page moves again, and paste it at the end of the talk page of a player (for example, Talk:Nikolaos Aggelakis).
  6. Repeat step 4
You should be done. If you need further help, let me know. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much for all! Do you think that there will be any problem about the logo? Because in logo's talk page says to keep it only to A.E.K. (sports club). GRanemos1 (talk) 21:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: Ah yeah, that's true. According to the Wikipedia policy (WP:NFC#UUI, #17), it is unacceptable to use non-free logos for "the logo of an entity used for identification of one of its child entities, when the child entity lacks its own branding. The specific child entity's logo remains acceptable." Meaning that you can't use the logo of a parent organization (A.E.K. (sports club)) in the article of a child entity (the volleyball club). See Lebanon national football team, for example: there is no logo because it's the same as the logo of its parent entity (Lebanese Football Association). Greece national football team, on the other hand, has the logo because it's specific to the national team; its parent entity (Hellenic Football Federation) has a different logo. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
And what can we do about the volleyball departments' logo of AEK? Nothing? Will be always without a logo? That's a problem. GRanemos1 (talk) 21:33, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

@GRanemos1: I agree with you, it's a stupid guideline. I've tried for weeks to find a solution to add the logo to Lebanon national football team, talking to various editors. But nothing. So I understand your frustration. Until the volleyball departments create a specific logo for their clubs (like basketball and football have their own specific logos), we can't do anything about it. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:39, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

So i said to remove this logo and to update it in other file in a few days and after some weeks to give it and to volleyball departments of the club. GRanemos1 (talk) 21:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
It still won't work, because people will catch on to the fact that the same logo is being used for both the parent and child entities. Maybe it will be ok for one, two, or three weeks, but give it a month and the logo will be removed again from the volleyball departments (even if it's a new logo with a different name). Nehme1499 (talk) 21:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Ok, can you delete the current logo from wikipedia? I wanna try it because the volleyball departments will be for many years without a logo and i want do this. If you can just remove the current logo and i find a way. Thanks. GRanemos1 (talk) 09:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: I personally can't delete files. You can upload a new file, and use that in the three AEK articles (AEK Athens F.C., AEK V.C., and AEK Women's Volleyball Club). Once File:AEK Athletic Club.png isn't being used on any article, it will be automatically deleted on its own after a few days. Nehme1499 (talk) 14:42, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Ok so how we can do to update a same file and to use it only in AEK V.C., and AEK Women's Volleyball Club? Maybe as a .jpg? GRanemos1 (talk) 16:19, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: click on "Upload file", under the "Tools" section in the far left. There, just upload a new file, making sure to specify that it's a "copyrighted, non-free work" and that it's a "logo". Nehme1499 (talk) 16:37, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Ok but i should upload the same logo as .png or as .jpg? GRanemos1 (talk) 16:40, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: It's not important, as long as you change the name from the logo you want deleted. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:44, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Can you help me please on this? Can you do this? It's important because the volleyball clubs will be best teams in two-three years in European competitions and must have a logo. GRanemos1 (talk) 16:47, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@GRanemos1: Ahaha man I'm trying to help as much as possible. The problem is that it's against Wikipedia guidelines to have the same logo for both the parent and child clubs. Also Croatia national football team, finalists in the 2018 FIFA World Cup, don't have a logo; we can't do anything about it. AEK has a specific logo for the football club, so it's ok. It also has a specific logo for the basketball club, so that's also ok. However, both volleyball departments have the same logo as the parent entity, so it's not ok. I personally disagree with the wikipedia guideline, but I can't do anything about it. Deleting the current image, and uploading a new one (as you are suggesting) will only work for a few days. Another editor will notice this and revert it back to how it is. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

So you suggest to do this from "Upload file" but which are the steps? First to delete it from AEK sports club and after to upload it? Can you tell me the steps? GRanemos1 (talk) 17:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: I suggest to not do it at all. You aren't fighting against me, but against the Wikipedia community. Again, while I don't specifically agree with the policy, it is what it is and we can't do anything about it. If you do manage to upload a new file, it will remain for a few days. Why do you want to go through all this just to have the logo on the volleyball pages for 2 days? What's the point? Nehme1499 (talk) 18:12, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
And then why Aris Thessaloniki, Panathinaikos, Olympiacos and Panionios G.S.S. do it with one logo to other departments and AEK can not do it? GRanemos1 (talk) 18:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: because they shouldn't. The clubs you mention also have the exact same problem as AEK, it's just that they haven't been found out yet. Nehme1499 (talk) 18:26, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Can you do anything about Simeon Papadopoulos page (see talk page)? The user Shirt58 change the name incorrect! The right name is Symeon (see the links). GRanemos1 (talk) 10:08, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: follow the 6 steps I provided above, from Wikipedia:Requested moves/Controversial go to "Requesting a single page move" and follow the steps. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:34, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Confused

Hello Nehme, how are you?. I am confused, kindly tell me is Mr.Taha an Egyptian or not? The tags really confuse me, why is it not allowed to add his Egyptian nationality too. The Amin Younes example confused me more since it's not listed anywhere in the tags that he's Lebanese. Thank you

41.234.237.227 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

As for Taha; yes, he was born in Lebanon as an Egyptian (since, in Lebanon, the mother doesn't pass citizenship). He became a Lebanese citizen through naturalization in 1992 (probably to make him eligible for the Lebanese national team). On Wikipedia, in the lede (the first paragraphs), we don't use hyphenated nationalities (such as Lebanese-German, or Italian-French); either we use the dominant nationality (the one that the subject is notable for), or we just remove the nationality (keeping just Jamal Khamis Taha (...) is a professional football coach). Then, we can explain the nationality situation in another paragraph. See Bassel Jradi, for example: born and raised in Denmark, but has represented Lebanon's senior team. His page just says "...is a professional footballer who..."; then, further down, it explains his nationality situation ("Born in Denmark to Lebanese parents..."). In Jamal Taha's case, he isn't known for being Egyptian (I'm sure a lot of Lebanese football enthusiasts don't even know this). Nehme1499 (talk) 01:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you a lot! This made it way more clear. I first thought from the tag Egyptian people of Lebanese descent that he was an Egyptian coach too (but wasn't 100% sure), I googled him and found only about Lebanon so I removed it as apparently he doesn't identify with Egypt at all.
Though when I read the sources within his CV, I found that he's an Egyptian national.
Thank you for clearing up all those things to me. Very kind of you!
41.234.237.227 (talk) 01:33, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
No problem! Don't forget to make an account ;) Btw, what made you edit Wikipedia? Are you a football enthusiast? Or someone interested in Egypt? Nehme1499 (talk) 01:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
I am 18 yrs old from Egypt. Here, I root for Al-Ahly (and hate Zamalek with passion), and I know lot about African, Arab and Asian football but I have no academic experience to be a writer though :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.234.237.227 (talk) 02:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Nice! Make an account and join us at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football! I could use a hand with Middle Eastern football (99% of my edits are about Lebanese football, but I occasionally help out with general Middle Eastern football). Nehme1499 (talk) 02:35, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Removal of fixture and results

Hi

I see that you keep removing sections "Fixture and results" from Italy national football team page. Did you at least start a talk and get approval for this?
In order to justify yor actions, you recalled:

  • Talk:Belgium national football team/GA1#Recent results that seems to be a particular case alongside few more (I guess only Scotland national football team and Perù) thus NOT relevant.
  • WP:RECENT that do NOT directly state that such sections have to be removed, but just underline that recent info may vary. In addition, in national football team pages also other sections can be subjected to recent events (e.g. current squad and recent calls up). As per your tought also these sections have to be removed. It does not seems anyway that Italy National FB team page has inbalanced focus on recent events.

I know that you removed this section due to an edit war, but this cannot be considered as a reason for arbitral removal. Please review your argumentations for deleting the whole sections because, as for now, they are not relevant. At the moment you are holding the page in hostage of your deliberate decision. Again, think about opening a talk in the page and get approvale for this.

Regards Riktetta (talk) 16:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Riktetta. Yes, I had started a discussion at the WikiProject Football talk page (@HawkAussie has already discussed the issue with the IP on his talk page). Regarding Belgium, Peru, and Scotland: those are not irrelevant and random cases, they are the ONLY national team pages which are FAs. The point of an FA is to serve as the objective an article should strive for. If all three don't have the recent results, evidently they shouldn't be there. Nehme1499 (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Nehme1499. FA articles guidelines do NOT state, anyway, that such a section have to disappear. I guess that if we keep this section and apply the page for FA it will be succesfull anyway. Anyway, the page is not a FA (yet) thus I see no need to remove the section. Especially, again, if the reason to leave is an edit war between unregistered users.Riktetta (talk) 07:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
@Riktetta: I guess it's just best for me to drop the stick. There's no need to quarrel over something, ultimately, so insignificant. Nehme1499 (talk) 11:25, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Quick transliteration favour

Hello Nehme. Could you do me a favour and confirm the Arabic transliteration on this image? The middle word is Rashida and I think the last may be is Khanum. I have no clue about the first though. She was a Chinese-Uyghur politician. Cheers, Number 57 15:23, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

@Number 57: Hi! The text is مبعوثى رشيدة خانم, which would be transliterated to "Mab3utha Rashida Khanum" (mab3utha means "envoy", as in the title, so the name would be "Envoy Rashida Khanum"). Hope that clears it up. Nehme1499 (talk) 15:40, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Super, thanks! Number 57 15:59, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
And sorry, another one if that's ok. Cheers, Number 57 16:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
@Number 57: The text reads مبعوثى أمينةخانم بوغرا, ergo "Mab3utha/Envoy AminaKhanum Bughra" (Amina and Khanum seem to be attached). The word "hanım"/"khanum" (see Wiktionary) means "lady", or "miss" in Ottoman Turkish. So her name would just be "Amina Bughra", with "mab3utha" meaning Envoy, and "hanım" just being a word meaning "miss", or "lady". Same goes for "Rashida": her name would just be "Rashida", with mab3utha and khanum holding the meanings I just highlighted. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:58, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Ah, that makes sense, as the name of the first person in Chinese is just "Rashida". Thank you again! Number 57 22:18, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
@Number 57: No problem! If you need anything else feel free to let me know. Nehme1499 (talk) 23:35, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
@Nehme1499: (Just happened to see this after posting a different question to you) in أمينةخانم isn't it two words for sure due to the ه being in it's final form (as opposed to medial)? --SuperJew (talk) 13:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
@SuperJew: Yeah grammatically speaking the two words are separate. However, the physical script in the image has them one next to the other (basically, I'm reading it as "AminaKhanum", rather than "Amina Khanum" or "Aminakhanum"). I don't know if there is any reason as to why it's written like this, or if the guy who wrote it by hand just happened to write the two words attached to one another. Also, upon revisiting the image, the character between Amin(a) and Khanum is a bit ambiguous. I mean, it's 99% clear that Amin? is Amina, but still. Nehme1499 (talk) 13:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Current Lebanese FA Cup

Hey, I was looking at 2019–20 Lebanese FA Cup and noticed there were matches missing. Trying to find what happened I found RSSSF saying the rounds were cancelled due to civil unrest. Do you think you can find a better and more explanatory source (maybe in Arabic?) and add a referenced explanation on the page? --SuperJew (talk) 13:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@SuperJew: Hi, the situation is explained in the lede ("The Lebanese Football Association suspended [...] officially cancelled on 28 May 2020.") Nehme1499 (talk) 13:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that part in the lede, but it mentions "financial reasons" (as opposed to civil unrest which are not exactly the same). The more problematic part of this though is the date: the lede says 21 January 2020, which doesn't explain the matches not played on 17 November 2019 & 21 December 2019. --SuperJew (talk) 13:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The civil unrest and financial instability are strictly linked. The protests themselves didn't stop football activities in Lebanon, rather the financial difficulty in carrying on football in the country. While the federation officially suspended footballing activities on 21 January 2020, the last games played were in October 2019. From October to January the federation kept postponing the resumption of the season, to no avail. Nehme1499 (talk) 13:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Arthur Melo

The reason for that being that nobody has seemingly gotten round to requesting an WP:RM for the article to be moved to the subject's WP:COMMONNAME. Compare 7,190,000 results for "Arthur" juventus -Melo to 157,000 for "Arthur Melo" juventus. I'm sure similar variants will yield similar results. The statement you added to the article that the subject is "commonly known as Arthur Melo or simply Arthur" is demonstrably untrue; it should, in fact, be the other way around. Mattythewhite (talk) 10:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Mattythewhite: I agree with you on the fact that Arthur is much more common than Arthur Melo. But still, as the article is located at Arthur Melo, it wouldn't make sense not to note the fact that he is also sometimes called "Arthur Melo". I've slightly amended the lede. If you believe the article should be located at Arthur (footballer, born 1996), you could start a move discussion. Nehme1499 (talk) 10:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Your amendment is definitely an improvement, thanks. I'll try and get round to making a request at some point. Mattythewhite (talk) 10:58, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players

You will need to update the link to the youth team discussion once it is archived, and you should also consider adding to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Consensus. GiantSnowman 16:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes don't worry, I've already thought about the discussion being archived. Thanks for the heads up about Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Consensus. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:57, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

AC Monza

There are some really cool pictures on the Italian wikipedia page, can't you add some to the English version? There is a lot more info there, surprised you haven't migrated some of it from the Italian to English. :/ Govvy (talk) 13:15, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Govvy: To be fair, I've already worked quite a bit on the A.C. Monza page (this is what it looked like before I started editing the page). I've migrated a few images from it-wiki to commons. One day I'll try to get the article to GA, if possible. Nehme1499 (talk) 18:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
I know, but there are some really cool historic pictures on the Italian page, surprised they are not on the English. Govvy (talk) 19:00, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
@Govvy: Once the "Stadium" section will be added I will most definitely use the four pictures in the it-wiki article. Unfortunately I can't add the 1987-88 team as it isn't in the public domain in the US yet. Nehme1499 (talk) 19:07, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Hannola and Hammoud

The current consensus is how I am editing - if you want to try and change that, fine, go for it, but until that time we need to stick to the current consensus. Please stop reverting. GiantSnowman 16:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Can you please link me to the discussion the set the status quo? Nehme1499 (talk) 16:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
I can tell you this is how it has been for the 14+ years I have been editing here, and that is shown by discussions such as this in 2008. GiantSnowman 16:51, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: Come on, a 12-year old discussion? What might have been consensus in 2008 doesn't necessarily have to be in 2020. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
If you can find something later that definitely says that is not the case, please provide it. As I have said, this is how we have edited for at least 14 years. GiantSnowman 17:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Reverted edit

bsd. Hi, may I ask the reason for reverting my edit to File:Irshad Chehim logo.png? Thank you.--Ben Stone 13:58, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Benstown: Because the template {{artifact}} doesn't seem to exist. Nehme1499 (talk) 14:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, my bad. Corrected. --Ben Stone 14:04, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Idea for an article

Came across this post on Twitter this morning. Do you think she'd be notable for an article? You could write it ;) --SuperJew (talk) 05:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@SuperJew: Thanks for the FIFA paper! I'll definitely try to work on her article. Nehme1499 (talk) 11:10, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
@SuperJew:  Done (Doumouh Al Bakkar), tell me what you think. Nehme1499 (talk) 23:12, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Looks good! Hopefully will have time for a better look later ;) --SuperJew (talk) 14:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Nakhid

Sorry, I stupidly scanned the list for Egypt rather than Lebanon and got it mixed up with the Syria match. Can't believe matches like that are approved by FIFA when they have such annoyingly strict rules elsewhere. Every country seems to have a few weird matches in their record (Scotland's is v the Hong Kong League in 2002, England seem to count their Rest of the World match in the 60s etc). And what is that Platini playing for Kuwait thing all about, what a lot of random nonsense, I look forward to seeing Ibrahimovic (or someone other star on the verge of retirement, take your pick) popping up for Lebanon in the next friendly. Scotland can have... Tiago Silva, why not, keep a PSG link going). Anyone allowed for the last 15 mins, and its an official cap. So bizarre. Crowsus (talk) 01:52, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

@Crowsus: I completely agree with you. Indeed, I am in contacts with a FIFA statistician who is part of RSSSF, and he also told me that he personally believes that the match should be removed from the FIFA official match list. Furthermore, he added:
”I want you to understand that within FIFA (international matches area DATA magnament) there are several inconsistencies with matches from various FAs, especially from Africa, Asia and Caribbean countries. That is why several options are being evaluated to deal with various topics. One of them is the one referring to the full A of the past decades. But it takes time.”
So, I guess it’s just a matter of waiting patiently for FIFA to take care of the list. Nehme1499 (talk) 01:58, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Pecchia

See here on "ALLENATORE". Flix11 (talk) 18:41, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Read first, and use your edit summary instead of reverting for no base at all. Flix11 (talk) 18:45, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
@Flix11: I think you are the one who should pay more attention. That section hasn't been updated in a year. Even when Pirlo was announced head coach of the U23, the section still said that Pecchia was the head coach. Nehme1499 (talk) 18:47, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Juventus

Nowhere on Juventus' wiki does it mention their champions league campaigns from 2018-20. Removing certain events like say mentioning Ronaldo's hat trick is one thing, but removing the entire event is unacceptable.

Their champions league campaigns are a part of their history and adding 1 line to mention what they did in Europe that year is necessary. I agree that going to much into detail is unnecessary, but mentioning for example (Juventus reached the champions league quarter finals and were knocked out by Ajax 3-2 on aggregate) is perfectly reasonable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbuonastella (talk • contribs) 00:06, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

@Mbuonastella: Please see 2017–18 Juventus F.C. season, 2018–19 Juventus F.C. season, and 2019–20 Juventus F.C. season. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:14, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Rollback

Your use of rollback at Peter Prosper was entirely inappropriate. It is for clear vandalism only, not good faith edits. GiantSnowman 14:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: the problem is that I can’t revert through my mobile phone. Rollbacking was the only option to re-instate the text. Nehme1499 (talk) 14:33, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Can't you just click 'undo'? Or go back to the history and copy & paste the version you want to restore? GiantSnowman 15:09, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: On my phone I don't have 'undo', otherwise I would have clicked that. I'll try copy and pasting next time. Nehme1499 (talk) 17:55, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Re: Iraqi ages

Hi Nehme,

I think until the 70's they didn't register the day and month of birth in Iraq, so they either picked 1 January or 1 July as DOB.

Steel Dogg (talk) 20:15, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Peter Prosper

Please do not blindly revert. Why did you re-format the infobox against standards? What use does a handful of incomplete stats add? Oh and your international stats are incorrect, and your addition to the lede is UNDUE. GiantSnowman

@GiantSnowman: You are the one who reverted me. I just re-instated the article to how it was prior to your revert. If the information is there, why remove it? Also, you are reverting a batch of edits I have made just to remove 4 numbers from the infobox, couldn't you have just done that instead? Now, the Club career section is overlinked (some clubs are linked twice, some even thrice, in the same section). Also, per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Players, there is no section called "early and personal life", only "Early life" and "Personal life"; also, "...who played at both professional and international..." isn't standard wording in the lede. Per MOS:SPELL09, you shouldn't have "...scoring 6 goals", rather "...scoring six goals". Finally, NFT.com doesn't have all the full matches (especially pre-2000). As you can see here (click on "Matches"), quite a lot of the 1996 matches, for example, have either partial or missing data. The website I linked to that showed that he had 17 games and 7 goals had his full international stats. Nehme1499 (talk) 10:54, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Then update the article, using detailed edit summaries, and without messing up the formatting of the infobox. GiantSnowman 11:31, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Its been a while but i've been busy with other things. Hopefully we will get these pages finished now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronniegregorym (talk • contribs) 14:42, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Came across an article

While looking at the new suggested FIFA nationality rules on FA Lebanon, I came across this article. Is this your writing? :) --SuperJew (talk) 17:35, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@SuperJew: Yep :) Nehme1499 (talk) 17:40, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Very nice :D --SuperJew (talk) 20:35, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Re: Template:Juventus F.C. squad

I perfectly know that source. It's fundamental to follow it for these kind of templates. However, what happened today in Vinovo it meant that the whole team includes even those six new players. Therefore, the new season's started. As soon as the transfers are completed (5 October last day), the source will be updated, principally with 23 players, as it appears right now.--Island92 (talk) 18:55, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Italy - stop your vandalism

Stop your vandalism! The players are called for 2 matches, and their numbers are changing. Some were out for the first match and then are in for the second match. --Blocci (talk) 18:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@Blocci: I agree, we can keep the players without numbers in the current squad. As for the notes, see the discussion here. Nehme1499 (talk) 18:07, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Good, well noted. Regarding the notes, for instance, if there are no players retired, it is useless to put the RET sign and note..--Blocci (talk) 18:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC) You understand? Only the INJ is mandatory and other are only for special cases. Italy coaches always call 28/30 players for the 2 matches, and he changes them but they keep staying available within the camp and the whole team.--Blocci (talk) 18:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
@Blocci: For me, we should include the other notes regardless, even if we don't put them. This way, if someone is excluded for reasons other than injury, we can look at the footnotes and pick which one makes more sense. By the way, sorry for the edit war. I should have explained my edits better. P.S. if you are Italian, we can just talk in Italian. Nehme1499 (talk) 19:47, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Greek football

Hello there. Can you create some Greek footballers pages? GRanemos1 (talk) 12:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

@GRanemos1: Hey, who are those players? If they pass WP:NFOOTY, then list them here. Nehme1499 (talk) 13:24, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Aleksander Llambi, Theodoros Loukas, Gustavo Balotelli, Borce Laskov, Kevi Hysi, Ousmane Sountoura, Steve Rubanguka, Andersonho Ngomba, Rafail Soilemezoglou, Andreas Dermitzakis, Vuko Vujović, Konstantinos Panagiotou, Matheus Leiria, Sergi Perelló, Stephen Hammond, Ronaldo Shani, Athanasios Stoinović, Léo Tilica, Oluwatobiloba Alagbe, Sudais Ali Baba, Alejo Blanco, Apostolos Apostolopoulos, Aleksandro Sadikaj, Christian Konan, Anastasios Meletidis, Georgios Koutsias, Nikola Stepanović, Symeon Papadopoulos, Panagiotis Vlachos, Stelios Makridis, Franck Eric Tientcheu, Konstantinos Feutchine, Florenc Keri, Gauthier Clémente, Klevis Kola, Julián Navalón, Leonidas Kasneci, Secouba Diatta, Lucas Batata, Emanuel Ibáñez, Konstantinos Karakostas, Konstantinos Kardaris, Konstantinos Kyriakidis, Giannis Voskopoulos, Periklis Minas, Lorenzo Menicagli, Anio Poci, Iasonas Papadimitriou, Giannis Dounga, Giannis Kalaitzidis, Aleksa Vukomanović, Konstantinos Koltsidas, Alexandros Zourkos, Daniel Arcilesi, Mauro Dalla Costa, Fabricio Conci, Juan Mattea, Abdoulaye Diallo, Minas Ptinopoulos, Tryfon Kasmeridis, Stergios Tsimikas, Dimitrios Klingopoulos, Vladyslav Naumets, etc. There are not only Greek footballers but more, they plays at Greek football clubs GRanemos1 (talk) 14:55, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: Ah wow, they are quite a lot. Can't you create some of those yourself? If you need something specific, I can help you out. But creating over 60 players is a bit too much for me (I've created 63 players in 2 years). Nehme1499 (talk) 15:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok i will try some myself but can you do these days Sudais Ali Baba, Léo Tilica, Oluwatobiloba Alagbe, Leonidas Kasneci, Vladyslav Naumets, Alejo Blanco, Christian Konan, Juan Mattea, Mauro Dalla Costa, Fabricio Conci, Ousmane Sountoura, Tryfon Kasmeridis, Florenc Keri and Franck Eric Tientcheu? GRanemos1 (talk) 15:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: Just to be clear, have all these players played in Super League Greece? Nehme1499 (talk) 00:27, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Some played in Super League Greece 2, in the second division but all of them are very good players and prospects. For example Sudais Ali Baba, Oluwatobiloba Alagbe and Vladyslav Naumets have played in the Super League Greece and Léo Tilica and Alejo Blanco will play in the season 2020-21. GRanemos1 (talk) 06:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Also, some other players that they have at least 1 appearance in Super League Greece and they don't have a wikipedia page yet are: Stathis Belevonis, Michalis Fragos, Pavlos Katharios, Nikolaos Skondras, Nikolaos Kaltsas (born 1989), Alexandros Doris, Antonis Kokkalas, Alexandros Perogamvrakis, Konstantinos Pagalos, Argyris Barettas, Nikolaos Skebis, Spyros Spinoulas, etc. GRanemos1 (talk) 07:13, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: Can you make me a list of (more or less) 10 players who have played at least 1 minute in either the Super League Greece or Super League Greece 2 who need a Wikipedia article? Nehme1499 (talk) 11:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok, they are: Sudais Ali Baba, Oluwatobiloba Alagbe, Vladyslav Naumets, Stathis Belevonis, Michalis Fragos, Argyris Barettas, Pavlos Katharios, Spyros Spinoulas, Nikolaos Skondras, Nikolaos Kaltsas (born 1989), Alexandros Doris, Antonis Kokkalas, Alexandros Perogamvrakis, Konstantinos Pagalos and Christian Konan. GRanemos1 (talk) 06:46, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: I've created a few for now. With time I will finish the others. Nehme1499 (talk) 20:47, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok, i see them. Thank you. I will wait. GRanemos1 (talk) 20:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
The others? GRanemos1 (talk) 17:22, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
@GRanemos1: Sorry, I was occupied with exams (and I just restarted lessons at uni). When I get the time I'll finish them. Nehme1499 (talk) 17:29, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

University

I saw you wrote you're with exams now with uni. Interested to know what and where are you studying? :) BTW you can do like me and use this code (or change it a little) on your user page during exams period: {{exams|6 July 2020. If you see him editing during this time, feel free to call him out on it and shame him back into studying|SuperJew}} --SuperJew (talk) 17:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Juve shirt numbers

If they are correct, the source needs changing. I can't find them anywhere at the Juve website. Cheers! REDMAN 2019 (talk) 15:05, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

@REDMAN 2019: They are taken from the friendly game vs Novara (see this source, for e.g.) Nehme1499 (talk) 15:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Cheers! REDMAN 2019 (talk) 15:11, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo

Just a quick thanks on undoing my edit from me. I didn't realize level 4 was higher than 5 lol. 71.208.32.185 (talk) 03:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Btw

My French is not the best, but I know a bit, I can read a lot better than I can write. I don't see any sources online really for the football club. It's a very hard one to find, the other thing I could only think of which seems far more logical to me is maybe is the P is just for Port! heh. I really don't think I am being much help know on the Lebanon team. And there were far more pressing issues during the French Mandate, first the rebuilding after the fall of the Ottomans and WW1 then the rise of fascism into WW2 all that must of hampered the football played. Govvy (talk) 13:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Govvy: Yeah there is really nothing relating to the club. If you search for Arabic: نادي السكة لبنان, there are a few Arabic sources, mainly talking about the early history of the Lebanese Premier League, mentioning the club as one of the league's early winners. Regarding sources available online, there is this match report of a 1940 friendly between Mandatory Palestine and Lebanon. I also have some personal pictures of (the now defunct) Camille Cordahi, given to be by his daughter. I can clearly see that the logo says DPHB, and a lot of pictures have text on the back saying things like "DPHB v H. Sport, 1939", or things of that nature. Also, the daughter sent me a bit of info on the player, saying that he worked for the Lebanese railways while playing for their club. So it's obvious that DPHB was the Lebanese railways football club. We just need to know what the acronym stands for. I'll try to get into contact with people who used to live in the 30s and 40s, maybe they would know. Nehme1499 (talk) 13:28, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
heh, you might need to perform a seance to speak to them! Govvy (talk) 13:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Ahahaha yeah you're right. Maybe someone from pre-civil war (1960s-ish)? Nehme1499 (talk) 13:54, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
@Govvy: Nehme1499 (talk) 13:54, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

I really like this pic on Rail transport in Lebanon

Re: Frabotta

Hi, sorry, but I was just wondering, what was it exactly that I didn't follow in the football stats template? Best regards, Messirulez (talk) 18:19, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

@Messirulez: Hi. We don't put "Juventus total" or "Juventus U23 total". We put the teams in chronological order (not: Juventus 2019-20, Juventus 2020-21, Juventus U23 2019-20, Juventus 2020-21). Nehme1499 (talk) 18:30, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok, but the template has the club totals which is why I did that. Is it ok if I at least change the code for the table layout for the new row so it matches the previous ones for consistency? Thanks!
Best, Messirulez (talk) 14:50, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
@Messirulez: Club totals are for consecutive spells. For example, Club A 2019-20, Club A 2020-21, Club B 2020-21. You put the totals for Club A. But you don't do it if the case is: Club A 2019-20, Club B 2020-21, Club A 2020-21. Nehme1499 (talk) 16:52, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Right, understood. But now simply in terms of the layout of the last two rows, can I make the code consitent with the previous ones? Regards, Messirulez (talk) 02:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
@Messirulez: Ah yes sure. You can fix the formatting of the code. Nehme1499 (talk) 03:02, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Best, Messirulez (talk) 03:19, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Nercesse

Hello Nehme1499. Do you have any idea about who is Nercesse from Sika Club? He is mentioned in 1940 Mandatory Palestine v Lebanon football match but I can't find anything that links or points to him. Maudslayer (talk) 01:28, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Maudslayer: Hi, I'm still investigating Nercesse and Guiragos. I'm fairly confident that they are Armenians, as it was common to call Armenian footballers by just their names (Levon instead of Levon Altounian, Vartan instead of Vartan Ghazarian, Jerard instead of Jerard Ajamian, etc.) Here is says that Guiragos and Oksen Ourfalian moved to Homenetmen Jerusalem (from Homenetmen Beirut) in 1942. Unfortunately, it just says "Guiragos", which is problematic because I assume that he didn't return back to Lebanon (meaning that I can't find him in post-1942 Lebanese sources). As for Nercesse, I didn't find much other than the fact that he was a DPHB (Sikka Al Hadid) player. Why do you ask? Nehme1499 (talk) 01:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Filippo Lora and Maicol Origlio numbers for Monza

Unfortunately, official Serie B website is FUBAR at the moment. However both ESPN and La Gazzetta dello Sport both list Lora and Origlio under numbers 43 and 71 respectively. The last time Lora was on the matchday squad for Monza (Coppa Italia game on 18 August 2019 against Fiorentina) his number was 8, and for Origlio (15 December 2018 against AlbinoLeffe) number was 7. Origlio's number on loan at Rende was 6. Lora's number on loan at Ravenna was 32.

So, 43 and 71 are not some random numbers that both ESPN and La Gazzetta happened to assign the same way, or numbers that were carried over by mistake from old seasons data. Both La Gazzetta and ESPN received those new numbers from official sources, I presume. Never mind that they are themselves reliable sources.

Cheers!

Geregen2 (talk) 21:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Geregen2: Thanks for the clarifications! I should have asked you on your talk page instead of reverting you, sorry for that. I think that the two players should still be kept as "Other players under contract", as Monza's official website doesn't list them, Monza's player presentation montage doesn't include them, and they weren't called up to either the league and cup games. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:30, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Sure, sounds good. They'll probably get loaned out again anyway. Geregen2 (talk) 21:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
@Geregen2: Yeah 100%. Worst case they'll be sent to the reserves or something. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:36, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Hello. I hope the information that you added to the page I created with the name Idrissa Niang will not be deleted. I do not understand your insistence on your sabotage activity even though I have returned the information several times, so please respect the work I do and stay away from these provocations. Mr. Port (talk) 05:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

@Mr. Port: The full name parameter is only to be used if his common name is different from his full name (see Hassan Maatouk, who's full name is Hassan Ali Maatouk). He has only played one game for Senegal—in 2013—so we can't say that he is still currently a national team player. And I don't understand why you are removing the stub template. There is no prose at all in the article other than the lede. About 1000-1500 bytes of prose size is usually the minimum for an article not to be stub, and the article is currently at 350 bytes. Nehme1499 (talk) 05:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
The notes that you mention are not that important that leads you to delete my add-ons. Too many pages prove the information in this way and there is no harm in that, and the player is still available to play with the national team until now. Mr. Port (talk) 05:22, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Can you please link me to those pages? And he may be available, but he's not a national team player. We must use common sense. Nehme1499 (talk) 05:23, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
For example: The article name and full name Granit Xhaka installed were fixed in the same way. Mr. Port (talk) 05:48, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
@Mr. Port: thanks for letting me know, I just fixed him. If you could let me know of other articles like that feel free to do so. Nehme1499 (talk) 05:56, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems that this provocation is intended, and I do not have time for these arguments, as my age and my morals prevent me from that, I wish you good luck. Mr. Port (talk) 06:08, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks anyway

So you are Lebanese, I now understand the reason for all this. I wish you success. Mr. Port (talk) 02:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations

The Featured Article Medal
By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this special, very exclusive award created just for we few, we happy few, this band of brothers, who have shed sweat, tears, and probably blood, in order to be able to proudly claim "I too have taken an article to Featured status". Gog the Mild (talk) 19:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
@Gog the Mild: Thanks, appreciate it :) Nehme1499 (talk) 19:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Well done Nehme1499!!! Very much deserved :D --SuperJew (talk) 19:24, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @SuperJew, couldn't have done it without you! Nehme1499 (talk) 19:27, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
My absolute pleasure! (not that I did much - it was mostly mostly you :) ) --SuperJew (talk) 19:31, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

1940 Mandatory Palestine v Lebanon football match

  • Congrats on that first FA! Kosack (talk) 06:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Also congrats from me, good work. Govvy (talk) 08:46, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Kosack and Govvy: Thanks guys! Nehme1499 (talk) 16:19, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Mohammed Hammoud Shabab Al Sahel

Hello, Just to Clarify Mohammed Hammoud who plays for Shabab Al Sahel used to play for Ansar and not the information on the page. The club information on the page is for another Mohammad Hammoud.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by LebanonInsider (talk • contribs) 06:27, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@LebanonInsider: Hey, thanks for the heads up. Can you give me the correct clubs and years from Mohamed Hammoud (footballer, born 1987) and Mohamed Hammoud (footballer, born 1988)? Nehme1499 (talk) 14:40, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Natasha Anasi

Anasi is of Kenyan descent,[15] but I guess what will be your reply (because of the source origin), so OK, I will accept the removal of the Kenyan-related categories. Now, she does not belong to the "Category:Icelandic people of American descent" (Do you have sources of that?). Anasi's parents are John and Jane Anasi,[16] and her mother's maiden name is Ogari,[17][18]. Both Anasi and Ogari surnames belong to the Kisii people in southwestern Kenya,Anasi exampleOgari example so her parents are not (at least, originally) American, but Kenyan. Ogari is actually the same surname as people like Simon Ogari or Charles Barongo Ogari who feature in this WP.-MonFrontieres (talk) 21:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@MonFrontieres: Given that she was born and raised in the US, and has US citizenship, she should belong to Category:Icelandic people of American descent. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:17, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
She does not descend from herself (that's impossible), but from his parents. If there is no source indicating that at least one of them (or one of her grandparents) was born in the United States, she is technically not of American descent.--MonFrontieres (talk) 00:38, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
@MonFrontieres: Yeah, makes sense. You can remove the category. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:45, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Luca Lombardi

Please explain why you think the composer Luca Lombardi (composer) isn't the primary topic? If there are only 2 people, we don't need any disambiguation, just at a hatnote at the two articles that the other exists. If we had 3 or more people, we could have Luca Lombardi (disambiguation). Why make things needlessly complicated? Please consider reverting it all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Just do a quick google search for Luca Lombardi. Only one result is regarding the composer (his own website), 90% of the rest about the footballer. If there really is a primary topic, it's the footballer. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Also, per WP:NOPRIMARY, if one of the two topics isn't primary, a disambiguation page is necessary. Nehme1499 (talk) 00:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
A few things you seem not to know:
  1. Google serves searchers differently. So I did a quick google search: 1 en-Wikpiedia Luca Lombardi (google doesn't know how that was changed), 2 de-Wikipedia Luca Lombardi (the composer, of course), 3 indeed the footballer (probably because it's recent news), 4 Ricordi (composer's publisher), 6+7 entries of footballer's transfer website, 8-10 back to the composer, including Academy of Arts. For me - different preferences in the Google search obviously - I see 7 to 3 on the first page for the composer, and the higher ranking ones. if I would conclude a primary topic from there, it would be the composer.
  2. But I don't. I see a well-established composer with a history, vs. a footballer who seems to have caused a temporary hype in the news.
  3. How many links to the composer? 28. To the footballer? Looks like 49, but how many in articles, discounting WP-pages and the template (35)??
  4. What if a footballer by the name of Ludwig van Beethoven was transferred, would you change the composer?
  5. For me, there's clearly a primary topic. But let's assume for a moment the composer wasn't. We could still have the composer as he was (just name), the footballer with dab in brackets, hatnotes for both, and - if you or the MoS insist - a true dab page, not making a long-term page suddenly a dab. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
In a nutshell: don't change running systems, keep simple. How many editors will a get information from DPL, editors used over years to call the composer by his name, and now land on a dab page? - Thank you for at least having done the clean-up of the present situation yourself. Last time (Engelbert Humperdinck) I was asked to help with something I thought was a big mistake, imagine. For the future, however, I still believe you'd better revert the move. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Re: 1975 Korea Cup

Hello, Nehme1499. I could only check part of the goalscorers at the Korea Cup (President's Cup) in the South Korean newspapers of that time. Unfortunately, I couldn't see any foreign squads in there. I'm sorry to tell you that there are no imformation. --Pinineeon (talk) 03:50, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

"레바논은 FW 유셉초울과 야곱칼파얀의 콤비플레이가 주축을 이루면서 시종 일방적인 리드를 잡고
"Under the combined plays of forwards Yousef-choul and Jacob-kalfayan, Lebanon held an one-sided lead throughout the start of the game,
전반 17분에 HB 모하마드 하톰이 직접 프리킥을 쏘아 골인된 것을 계기로 33분에는 FW [야곱칼파얀]이 추가점을 올렸다.
and after a half-back Mohammad Hatom (guessed he is Mohamed Hatoum) took a direct free kick into the goal in the 17th minute of first half, a forward Jacob-kalfayan scored an additional goal in the 33rd minute.
후반에 들어서도 14분에 FW 살리가 논스톱슛으로 또 하나의 추가점을 올렸다."
Even during the second half, a forward Sali scored another additional goal with an non-stop shot in the 14th minute." --Pinineeon (talk) 13:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Club season pages

Hey, I saw your page 2020–21 A.C. Monza season. I see that you're hard linking match reports to the results. If you are using a table instead of matchboxes, it is preferable to use ref cite tags for the reports (like you did in the attendance column), and that is to try and prevent WP:LINKROT. --SuperJew (talk) 00:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I was using 2020–21 Manchester United F.C. season as a sort of "guideline". Nehme1499 (talk) 00:55, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

WP:NOTBROKEN

Hi. WP:NOTBROKEN would suggest "[[Striker (association football)|Striker]]" is preferable to "[[Forward (association football)|Striker]]". This is why I've reverted the change at Romuald Ntsitsigui. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 10:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

@Robby.is.on: Got it, thanks for the heads-up! Nehme1499 (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Re: Hi

Because I saw him playing in the past for the U17 national team of Romania and I knew then he's gonna become big. I even compared him then with Chiellini. He was running very well compared to all the other kids and also had great headers. I think it's unfair to compare him with Virgil. That phrase must be edited in my opinion, written in a different way. Source that he is born in Bucharest. https://www.puterea.ro/cine-este-radu-dragusin-pustiul-de-18-ani-care-a-debutat-pentru-juventus/

What do you say about adding that he got offers from all those big clubs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by End-of-season-updates (talk • contribs) 00:01, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Flushing Oh

You deleted my addition to the notable people. Why? I referenced to the James S. Murphy Us Air Force bioagraphy. Denisjackowski (talk) 20:41, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Denisjackowski: take a look at davidwr's response at User talk:Materialscientist#Flushing Ohio. Nehme1499 (talk) 22:04, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Coritiba

Hey there, so I did some more looking into the Coritiba club from the Scanu article and I think the reason we never found a reference to "Itabaiana Coritiba" and it only said "Coritiba" is because it's not called Itabaiana, it's just the name of the town. Based on their Facebook page and their Twitter page their name is "Coritiba de Sergipe" or "Coritiba Foot Ball Club" just like the main club. I'm thinking of making a page move, but am not sure whether it should be moved to:

  • Coritiba de Sergipe
  • Coritiba Foot Ball Club de Sergipe
  • Coritiba Foot Ball Club (Sergipe)
  • Coritiba Foot Ball Club (Itabaiana)

I'll probably do it through Requested Moves, but wanted to get your insight first before I do. RedPatchBoy (talk) 14:45, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

@RedPatchBoy: Ahh makes sense. I think the best option is Coritiba Foot Ball Club (Sergipe), using (Sergipe) as a disambiguator. The logos of Coritiba Foot Ball Club and Itabaiana Coritiba Foot Ball Club are exactly the same, the only difference is the text "SERGIPE" instead of "PARANA'" on the bottom. Given that Coritiba Foot Ball Club is not called "Coritiba Foot Ball Club Parana'", I would say that Itabaiana Coritiba Foot Ball Club should also be called Coritiba Foot Ball Club, adding (Sergipe) to disambiguate (as the Parana' club is the notable one). Nehme1499 (talk) 15:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
I agree. That one was my preference as well. The Parana club is the clear primary topic and doesn't need a disambiguator. RedPatchBoy (talk) 15:58, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
I set up a page move request here RedPatchBoy (talk) 16:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
@RedPatchBoy: Nice, I've put up my support :) Nehme1499 (talk) 16:11, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Saluti e gentile richiesta di miglioria per Raffaella Lebboroni

Ciao da Coreca. ti scrivo per salutarti e sapere come stai, ho visto che hai fatto qualche intervento in alcune mie pagine, ti chiedo un favore se puoi. Quello di dedicare 5 minuti del tuo prezioso tempo a questa pagina che ti ho segnalato. Naturalmente se posso fare qualcosa per te chiedi pure tranquillamente. con la cortese ti saluto e ringrazio--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 10:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

@Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino: Ciao, si certo ora cerco di sistemare bene la pagina. Giusto per sapere, a quali pagine tue ho apportato modifiche? Nehme1499 (talk) 15:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Buongiorno e grazie per l'aiuto, allora tu mi hai aiutato con Federico De Robertis, mi scuso se ho tardato un pochino nel risponderti, ad ogni modo ti saluto e ringrazio infinitamente. Volevo chiederti se ti avanza del tempo, potresti dare una manina di aiuto a Teresa Saponangelo? Giusto qualche ritocchino e l'aggiunta della filmografia. Per il resto spero che vada tutto bene lì da te, grazie ancora e a presto.--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 08:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
@Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino: Ho dato qualche ritocco. La filmografia e' un po' lunghina, magari un'altro giorno vedo se riesco ad aggiungere pure quella. Nehme1499 (talk) 13:19, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Paulo Dybala

Hi! Your rationale for undoing my edit does not seem to correlate with the content of your own edit. Isn't "helping his nation to win a bronze medal in the latter tournament" puffery per se? "Instead of making unprovable proclamations about a subject's importance, use facts and attribution to demonstrate that importance." This is what I had tried to when I replaced this ambiguous clause with precision. By precision, I mean facts. "[S]coring the game-winner to clinch a third-place finish for his nation in the latter tournament" (in contrast) actually informs the reader of how Dybala contributed to Argentina's achievement. I welcome your thoughts and comments! Hurrygane (talk) 18:09, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hurrygane: The word "clinch" is best to be avoided. The structure of your sentence is ok, just replace clinch with something a bit more neutral. Nehme1499 (talk) 18:17, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Re: 1975 President's Cup Football Tournament

Yes. Football Association of Malaysia send Perak because the first team of Malaysia have 2 match against Arsenal in May 1975. See the article here Thailand Crush Indonesia - The Straits Times, 12 May 1975. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DatabolaMY (talk • contribs) 09:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Imperial Triple Crown

I'm very pleased to present the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels to Nehme1499, for your work on "Did you know?" and the good and featured article processes! — Bilorv (talk) 17:40, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Congrats on the Imperial Triple Crown! You might be interested in a userbox I made, {{User crown|Imperial}}:

This user has been awarded an Imperial Triple Crown.

— Bilorv (talk) 17:40, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Four Award

Four Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on 1940 Mandatory Palestine v Lebanon football match. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Re: 1975 President's Cup Football Tournament

The article follows the contents of Korea Football Association and RSSSF. It was hard to find the list of players, but Japanese team participated with youth players and a few senior players according to newspapers. --Pinineeon (talk) 04:23, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Help

Hi , I need some help , I hope you can help me and I want speak with you Arabic ,, Thank you ,,Hamaredha (talk) 21:09, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hamaredha: Hi! Sure, tell me. Nehme1499 (talk) 21:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
مرحبا اخي , شفت انك كاتب انك لبناني فاكيد تعرف عربي , انا اكتب مقالات بالانجليزي و اريد شخض يساعدني بتصحيح الاخطاء اللغوية , صح اني اكتب بصورة جيدة لكن لاتزال هناك بعض الاخطاء اللغوية والتي ارغب ان يراجعها شخص موثوق مثل حضرتك ويصحح لي الخطئ اللغوي اينما وجد فاني هدفي المعرفة المجانية وكلنا هنا متطوعون بخدمة المعرفة ,, وشكرا ,,Hamaredha (talk) 22:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
@Hamaredha: مرحباً ، للأسف ، مهاراتي في الكتابة والقراءة باللغة العربية ليست جيدة جدًا. يمكنني التحدث باللهجة اللبنانية ، لكنني بطيئة بعض الشيء في القراءة :) إذا كنت تحب ، يمكنك محاولة سؤال User:Hashim-afc ، من إذا لم أكن مخطئًا فهو عراقي. ربما يمكنه مساعدتك. أتمنى لك كل خير! Nehme1499 (talk) 00:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
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