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Hello, P.hogg, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Duplicate images uploaded[edit]

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CSD on Woodhill Road Halt railway station[edit]

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Park railway station[edit]

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Speedy deletion of Ashton Moss railway station[edit]

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High Street Metrolink Station[edit]

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Image copyright problem with Image:03 Wardleworth Station Site 1.jpg[edit]

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Rochdale Canal Map[edit]

Good work with the canal map! I've made a couple of small syntax changes and integrated it in to the ]]Rochdale Canal]] article. Hmallett 19:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi there, I've made some additions to this map. Please feel free to let me know what you think, there are more planned. Parrot of Doom (talk) 00:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Greater Manchester[edit]

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Hello, P.hogg! Thank you for your recent contributions to one of Wikipedia's Greater Manchester-related articles. Given the interest we're assuming you've expressed by your edits, have you considered joining WikiProject Greater Manchester? It's a user-group dedicated to improving the overall quality of all Greater Manchester-related content. There is a discussion page for sharing ideas as well as developing and getting tips on improving articles. The project has in-house specialists to support and facilitate your ideas. If you would like to join, simply add your name to the list of participants.


If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at the project talk page. We hope to be working with you in the future!

-- Jza84 · (talk) 12:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Eastwood (L&Y) railway station‎[edit]

Hey P.hogg. I have reformatted the reference in the above article to a much more transparent form using a Google book search to locate the book's information. Please fill in the fields I left blank. Hopefuly you can use this as an example for references in similarly situated future articles. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit]

Information.svg Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Milnrow. Thank you. -- Jza84 · (talk) 16:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello again,
You have just editted Milnrow without providing an edit summary. So please allow me to explain how this works and why it is important.
On a page being edited, a small "Summary" field is found under the main edit box. It looks like this:
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It is good practice to fill in the Edit Summary field, or add to it in the case of section editing, as it helps everyone to understand what is changed, such as when perusing the history of the page. It's a good idea to set your user preferences (under Editing) to "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary". Always fill in the summary field:- This is considered an important guideline. Even a short summary is better than no summary. An edit summary is even more important if you delete any text; otherwise, people may question your motives for the edit.
Accurate summaries help people decide whether it is worthwhile for them to check a change. We've found that summaries often pique the interest of contributors with expertise in the area. This may not be as necessary for "minor changes", but "fixed spelling" is still very much recommended.
Hope that helps for the future, -- Jza84 · (talk) 17:16, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Milnrow[edit]

Hello P.Hogg,

I notice that in addition to your contributions of text, you are also adding photographs - which is great! I was wondering if you'd be able to take a photograph of Milnrow and/or Rochdale sometime - something along the lines of what's found at the top right of Shaw and Crompton and Oldham articles? I think a great shot would be found at Burnedge/Laneside/Fairview at High Crompton for both towns.

It'd be great too if you would take a look at Greater Manchester WikiProject and make contact with us! Hope to hear from you, -- Jza84 · (talk) 02:08, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


Image copyright problem with Image:Looking downsteam from Smallbridge.jpg[edit]

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Image:Piethorne Brook River Beal.JPG[edit]

Please add a description to this image Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Dupes[edit]

You created Monsall Metrolink Station and Monsall Metrolink station; as the rest of your metrolink station articles have a lower case station you may want to request deletion of Monsall Metrolink Station --Blowdart | talk 19:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Huddersfield Narrow Canal[edit]

Hi! I Spotted the 'large' canal map template on the article so I have adapted the article images to allow for the extra length of it. Plus populated the eastern side of the template for you. Hope its Okay? Richard Harvey (talk) 12:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Bindaree[edit]

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Image copyright problem with Image:Irwell and Mersey Confluence.jpg[edit]

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Tunshill and Newhey[edit]

Hello P.hogg,

I have recently expanded the Milnrow article, and wondered if you'd be willing and able to exapand Tunshill and/or Newhey according to the WP:UKCITIES guideline? Hope so, --Jza84 |  Talk  16:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Narnia Character Portrayals[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Manchester Road railway station (Bradford)[edit]

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Manchester Lines South[edit]

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Withins Lane railway station[edit]

I was in two minds whether to create this article, but decided not to as I didn't have enough information. I wondered, can you say for certain if it was along the present metro line. Obviously it was on the ELR line, but when the L&YR built their line, did the two meet before the station, or after? I know it was very likely around the North Junction (on the 1893 and 1894 OS map there is a Withins Lane Siding, clearly visible, that appears to branch northeast from the metro line). That siding has gone by 1909. Interestingly, on the 1893 and 1894 maps you can see a Hagside Siding, that presumably would be located at the present level crossing. You can see all this at old maps, and theres a map on the Radcliffe article I made, here Parrot of Doom (talk) 18:38, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


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Oldham Loop Line Metrolink stations[edit]

I gather that you have been involved in creating articles for the future Metrolink stations (e.g. Milnrow Metrolink station) on the Oldham Loop Line. I am wondering though whether it would be better simply at the moment to leave these names as redirects to the relevant heavy rail station article. I don't think we need an article for both the heavy rail station and the light rail station. When the new Metrolink stations open the heavy rail stations can simply be renamed to the new name with the information about its life as a heavy rail station forming a history section.

Where a Metrolink station is a new station (e.g. Drake Street Metrolink station), rather than a conversion from a heavy rail station, then I'd suggest that we probably don't even need an article yet and they can be left as red links. I would note that consensus regarding other light rail systems in the UK has been that it is not necessarily appropriate to have an article for every stop. I would welcome your views on this since it seems you've been heavily involved in this. Adambro (talk) 18:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Commons[edit]

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Heaton Norris railway station[edit]

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Template:Salford Lines[edit]

Hi, I think you created this template, it includes Ellenbrook station which wasn't on the lines on it. Ellenbrook was on the Eccles, Monton, Worsley, Ellenbrook, Tyldesley line, Manchester and Wigan Railway and Tyldesley Looplines that don't have templates. I really don't like to alter it but I hope you might.--J3Mrs (talk) 23:04, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Rochdale Canal and Caldervale Railway[edit]

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Hi, re this edit - I am not aware of any plans to extend the Manchester Metrolink to Chester - could you please direct me to a source? --Redrose64 (talk) 21:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12223482 — Preceding unsigned comment added by P.hogg (talkcontribs) 23:35, 22 July 2011

It's a feasibility study, not a route under construction, in planning or even a firm proposal. Per WP:CRYSTAL, I don't think that this "line" should be shown. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:28, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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Are you planning on expanding all the Grand National stubs? - Sitush (talk) 21:41, 18 November 2011 (UTC) I am creating pages showing the basics. Other users are welcome to make edits and add further details.

Seems odd. Why not just create a list? It would need, oh, five columns or so? If someone wants to spin it off to a full-blown article then they can do so. These really are the ultimate in stubs. Sure, such things are allowed - some people even encourage them - but one-line stubs with a half-cocked infobox? It seems like a waste. Do you not have the ability to expand them yourself? - Sitush (talk) 19:55, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh, in any event, you'll need to go through them all and remove "world-famous". That is emotive and we try to avoid such things. While you are at it, you could fix the citations - I've just picked a random selection & none of them are as they should be. - Sitush (talk) 19:58, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
I see you're doing another round of these. The concerns that Sitush had above I echo again now. These are not even stub articles. These are one sentence articles created out of a template. You should familiarize yourself with WP:MASSCREATION as well as you're close to that policy. Instead of creating dozens of WP:KITTENS, why not do at least marginally more expansive and useful articles? Or, as Sitush indicated, put them into a single article by century or decade with a table and then a discussion of them collectively. What you're doing here just increases the workload on everyone else with little gain. Shadowjams (talk) 02:14, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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