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Thank You[edit]

Thank You Spa-Franks for my award - I honestly never expected to receive it. On a different note though about the Austrian language issue, someone (and I can only assume they noticed the query from Project Austria has stated that Bavarian is technically German, and that in Austria, they refer to the 'dialect' in question as Austrian Dialect. So perhaps it would be wise to list the article as Austrian, with the footnote explaining it is a dialect from Upper Austria. WesleyMouse 17:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with you on that. But what we do to the 2012 article has got to be done to the 2003 article, which is why I proposed Styrian. Spa-Franks (talk) 17:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There's not just the 2003 article, but also the 1971, and 1996 articles too. Perhaps listing all of those as "Austrian" and use a similar footnote as is used in 2012 to explain that even though the song is listed as "Austrian", the EBU classified it as Such'n'such-a-language. Keeps to consistency. WesleyMouse 18:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Over ref-linking on Eurovision Song Contest 2012[edit]

Spa-Franks, I noticed the same reflink being used a plethora of times regarding participation lists, which you added a few moments ago. I have simplified your inclusion, so that the ref links appear on the column headers and not next to each artist/song. This is so that the reflist at the bottom of the article isn't drowned with too many "group link". WesleyMouse 21:14, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I mucked up the article and took too long. I'm not good at that sort of thing and just as we "found" the calendar, I "found" that. Besides, when I add a ref, it always goes wrong in some way! Spa-Franks (talk) 21:16, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Have you tried using the reftoolbar? I find it easier to use when it comes to adding refs. WesleyMouse 21:29, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yep! It's just, for instance, forgetting to delete a ref name I've replaced, or in the case of my horrible Italy ref, no </ref> tag. Spa-Franks (talk) 21:31, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm perhaps next time then, try using the "show preview" button, to see if your inclusions don't create ref errors, before saving the page into a final format. That's something I do regularly when I'm not rushing about or being distracted by the television, almost like a "print preview" before printing the final draft. WesleyMouse 21:35, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Eurovision: Discussion on the use of navigation templates[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision: Discussion on recategorizing[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - June 2012[edit]

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Project Eurovision RFC discussion reminder[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - July 2012[edit]

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EUROISION
• WikiProject News •

Issue #20 • July 2012
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Message from the Editorial Team

Bienvenue! Willkommen! Welcome!

Please be warm-hearted in encouraging everyone to do their best to contribute to all Eurovision-related Wikipedia articles, and welcome our new members to the project. It is easy for editors to get into conflict with each other, and things can get very nasty on the most trivial of issues, whether that be on the language of songs, the names of certain countries, or how we deal with incidents at the contest. In such circumstances it is worth remembering one thing: we are all here to build an encyclopedia, and the contribution of Eurovision to human knowledge can only be given justice if we work together and make articles, not drama!

  • If you would like something to appear in the August 2012 Edition of the newsletter, then please inform us at the Project Newsdesk.
  • If there is an article you think we should have? Request it here.

Happy editing!


Project News
  • When creating new articles about a performer or song, please remember to add sources either from Eurovision.tv, ESCToday or other reliable sources. If you're not sure a source is reliable enough, then ask the project for an opinion.
  • Remember to only add content to articles that is relevant to the article's main subject. Anything not in relation to the article may be questioned and/or subject to redirection to an article that would benefit it's inclusion. Again if in doubt, ask on the article or project talk pages for an opinion - communication is an important tool.
  • On the subject of communication, please make use of the article talk pages. They are a vital tool in conducting consensus talks of additions of proposed new sections and/or removal of unnecessary section. If you don't use these pages to put across your views, then you only have yourself to blame if actions are taken that you disagree with and you end up wandering into edit warring territory.
  • The 2012 season of Eurovision has drawn to a close, and we now start preparations for the 2013 edition. While things will be slow to start of with, now is the ideal opportunity to do a clean-up exercise across articles relating to the project. There's over 4,500 articles associated with the project. If you happen to see a Eurovision related article without the {{EurovisionNotice}} template on the article's talk page, please add it. You can also read Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment if you would like to help assess or reassess articles in our project if you see that they have outgrown their current assessment. There is currently one unassessed article.
  • And finally... a massive thank you to all members of the project for your constant hard work on collaborating and contributing to Eurovision related articles. Keep up the good work team!

Project Alerts
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Project Gossip
  • The RfC discussion in regards to article layout, is still taking place on the project talk page. Could all members please ensure that they participate in the discussion so that we can all agree on important article structure issues. If you don't take part, then you only have yourselves to blame if a consensus is passed that you disagree with.

Page Milestones

Eurovision Song Contest -  Sweden 2013

Junior Eurovision Song Contest -  Netherlands 2012
  • The tenth edition of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest is scheduled to take place on the 1 December 2012, in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Details about confirmed participation are slowly filtering out into the world wide web. Please cite reliable sources when including new information.
  • The EBU extended the submission deadline to 29 June 2012. So far only 8 countries confirmed participations, and the contest needs a minimum of eleven in order for the show to continue. Bulgaria have withdrawn.

Asiavision Song Contest -  South Korea 2012
  • After several postponements, the first contest is now scheduled to take place in the South Korean capital of Seoul; on 14 October 2012.
  • Could all members please find any reliable sources on participants etc, so that we can consider creating an article for this event.

Eurovision Young Musicians -  Austria 2012

Eurovision Young Dancers -  Norway 2011
  • The next contest is scheduled to take place in 2013 - the host city is expected to be announced towards the end of 2012.

Eurovision Dance Contest -  United Kingdom 2008
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New Recruits

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Adieu! Auf Wiedersehen! Farewell!

We would like to bid farewell and show our appreciation to the following members who have decided to depart the project for personal reasons since our June publication. (in alphabetical order)

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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - August 2012[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision: Recent changes[edit]

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Please note that there have been some changes to operations surrounding Eurovision articles, these being that:

  • Template names have now been modernised and/or megred into super-templates, for example Countries in the Eurovision Song Contest has now been merged into Template:Eurovision Song Contest making it even easier to find everything under one template. If you are planning to create a new template, please keep the standardised titles in mind. Other templates have been modernised and a full list of them can be found here.
  • The Eurovision Song Contest and Junior Eurovision Song Contest articles have now been standardised to keep a consitancy throughout the project and to the genral reader too. Skeleton article drafts can be found for Eurovision Song Contest by Year and Junior Eurovision Song Contest by Year.

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WP:Eurovision Newsletter (September 2012)[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - October 2012[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - November 2012[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - December 2012[edit]

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Just seen your graph for Spanish 2015 polls and I have to say I am impressed! This sort of graph is much better than we had before! It doesn't just show a trend line but you can actually see all the figures plotted on the graph! This satisfies all concerns even ones that I had already comprimised on! I always say if it's possible to include more detail simply and easily, then just do it! Great solution, really pleased with th idea. However I just want to check are you doing a line each for: Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, UKIP and Others? 5Lines, just to be sure? Also for the UKIP data have you seperated it from "Others" for before 2012? If you have, have you remembered to subtract the UKIP figure from the "others" figure? Nick 00:43, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion moved to Talk:Opinion polling for the next United Kingdom general election. Spa-Franks (talk) 18:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help resolving an issue with UK Euro Elections 2009[edit]

We have a bit of a dispute on this page and I think you might be able to help :-) We basically have aproblem with who to include in hnfo box and it seems obvious to everyone apart from one person. Please do not feel you have to read the whole thing, there's a lot there but it would be fantastic if you could look at the bottom 2 sections of the talk page (the one with links and the one with outside opinions) and let us know what your view is by putting a * before your comment. The argument basically goes that The BNP and The Green Party of England and Wales should not be included in the info box because past precedents set state that this is too low. European Parliament elections tend to have a 'cliff edge effect' whereby we deem a gap between 10 and 3 as significant or 10 and 2. In this case the diference i between 11 and 2, there seems to be no difference from 15years ago any yet someone is trying to change the rules!Oh well that's sometimes how a wikidebate goes! Anyways would really appreciate your help and once again...keep up the good work :-)Nick 01:12, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]