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Revision as of 06:41, 25 May 2021

    Mediawiki:Spam-blacklist is meant to be used by the spam blacklist extension. Unlike the meta spam blacklist, this blacklist affects pages on the English Wikipedia only. Any administrator may edit the spam blacklist. See Wikipedia:Spam blacklist for more information about the spam blacklist.


    Instructions for editors

    There are 4 sections for posting comments below. Please make comments in the appropriate section. These links take you to the appropriate section:

    1. Proposed additions
    2. Proposed removals
    3. Troubleshooting and problems
    4. Discussion

    Each section has a message box with instructions. In addition, please sign your posts with ~~~~ after your comment.

    Completed requests are archived. Additions and removals are logged, reasons for blacklisting can be found there.

    Addition of the templates {{Link summary}} (for domains), {{IP summary}} (for IP editors) and {{User summary}} (for users with account) results in the COIBot reports to be refreshed. See User:COIBot for more information on the reports.


    Instructions for admins
    Any admin unfamiliar with this page should probably read this first, thanks.
    If in doubt, please leave a request and a spam-knowledgeable admin will follow-up.

    Please consider using Special:BlockedExternalDomains instead, powered by the AbuseFilter extension. This is faster and more easily searchable, though only supports whole domains and not whitelisting.

    1. Does the site have any validity to the project?
    2. Have links been placed after warnings/blocks? Have other methods of control been exhausted? Would referring this to our anti-spam bot, XLinkBot be a more appropriate step? Is there a WikiProject Spam report? If so, a permanent link would be helpful.
    3. Please ensure all links have been removed from articles and discussion pages before blacklisting. (They do not have to be removed from user or user talk pages.)
    4. Make the entry at the bottom of the list (before the last line). Please do not do this unless you are familiar with regular expressions — the disruption that can be caused is substantial.
    5. Close the request entry on here using either {{done}} or {{not done}} as appropriate. The request should be left open for a week maybe as there will often be further related sites or an appeal in that time.
    6. Log the entry. Warning: if you do not log any entry you make on the blacklist, it may well be removed if someone appeals and no valid reasons can be found. To log the entry, you will need this number – 1025009060 after you have closed the request. See here for more info on logging.


    Proposed additions


    jeremystoppelman.com

    Made to look like it is the personal website of Jeremy Stoppleman, but it is actually an ad for marketing/SEO services (the website itself keeps changing). It has been added to the page 8-9 times since 2016, but every time it is removed, it gets snuck back in a few months later from a different (but similar) IP. Please see my user page for COI disclosure. CorporateM (Talk) 18:37, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    tronikshop.com

    tronikshop.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com
    Ratan Biswas1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)
    Tahamina1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)
    Tahaminaa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam)
    Being used by 3 (now 4) accounts to constantly spam links. Is a shop link, so there is no good use unless an article is created on it, which is unlikely. aeschylus (talk) 20:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Also now Tahaminaa1 (talk · contribs). Concur, please blacklist. - MrOllie (talk) 20:45, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Aeschylus: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 06:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    newspaperadda.com

    Spamming from at least three accounts after numerous warnings. plus Added to blacklist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:40, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Vietnamese websites

    For whatever reason these links have been continually spammed into the article of the German-Jewish poet Else Lasker-Schüler for the last few months. Hemiauchenia (talk) 08:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    short.gy

    URL shortener. plus Added to blacklist; maybe send to meta as well? OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:14, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    @Ohnoitsjamie:  Defer to Global blacklist, url shorteners go on meta without question. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:28, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposed removals

    www.marketingsavior.com

    marketingsavior.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:frSpamcheckMER-C X-wikigs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: searchmeta • Domain: domaintoolsAboutUs.com

    Hello,

    Our domain marketingsavior.com has been blacklisted to participate on Wikipedia due to unknown reasons.

    We have very strong pieces of evidence and knowledge that we can contribute to the Wikipedia community. We were trying to cite one of the content mentioned on wiki page of Hostinger that we have full knowledge about and have also mentioned it in our blog.

    You can check it here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostinger | marketingsavior.com/cheap-web-hosting-hostinger-review/

    In the growth section of WIKI page

    As of 2021 it has a presence in 178+ countries with over 30 million users.[citation needed] - (Page link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostinger)

    We have this content where we would like to add citation to -

    As of 2021, the user base has grown to more than 30 million spread across 178 countries and 15000 new customers are added daily which shows that Hostinger has something. - ( Page link - marketingsavior.com/cheap-web-hosting-hostinger-review/ )

    Hope to get our domain whitelisted soon. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:201:5001:7C6B:E0B8:C385:EA54:74 (talkcontribs)

    That's all very exciting, but your website was spammed by at least four different IPs from the same range is the IP you are posting from. As a result, it was actually blacklisted globally, so  Defer to Global blacklist. Good luck. OhNoitsJamie Talk 05:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    uinterview.com

    Blacklisted in 2009 for some spammy external link additions by IPs, but looks like it could be potentially useful as a source now - claims to have decent editorial control and has a significant amount of reporting. Whether it will eventually be deemed reliable or not, it doesn't seem like it's necessary to be blacklisted. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:43, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    tranio.com

    Hello, After trying to contribute to Wikipedia with the info from Tranio.com's expert article it turned out that the website is on the spam list. I added some info about Viennese cafes statistics and put a link to Tranio's original survey in the 'References' section as it said in Wikipedia rules. What did I wrong? How can I contribute further? Please remove Tranio from the blacklist as many users refer to it when it comes to real estate statistics. I'm specialized in this topic too. Thank you. ErganolQute (talk) 3:36, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

     Not done The site was spammed heavily by throw-away accounts last year. A trusted high-volume editor could request a whitelisting if the need arose, but I don't anticipate that. OhNoitsJamie Talk 01:58, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Facebook onion address

    Facebook onion address

    New Official v3 onion for Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/facebookcorewwwi/posts/3727741430665883

    Dedicated page already updated facebookwkhpilnemxj7asaniu7vnjjbiltxjqhye3mhbshg7kx5tfyd.onion Deku-shrub (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    @Deku-shrub: no Declined,  Defer to Whitelist (please read the instructions, and please ask also for removal of the old .onion). --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    Logging / COIBot Instructions

    Blacklist logging

    Full instructions for admins


    Quick reference

    For Spam reports or requests originating from this page, use template {{/request|0#section_name}}

    • {{/request|213416274#Section_name}}
    • Insert the oldid 213416274 a hash "#" and the Section_name (Underscoring_spaces_where_applicable):
    • Use within the entry log here.

    For Spam reports or requests originating from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam use template {{WPSPAM|0#section_name}}

    • {{WPSPAM|182725895#Section_name}}
    • Insert the oldid 182725895 a hash "#" and the Section_name (Underscoring_spaces_where_applicable):
    • Use within the entry log here.
    Note: If you do not log your entries, it may be removed if someone appeals the entry and no valid reasons can be found.

    Addition to the COIBot reports

    The lower list in the COIBot reports now have after each link four numbers between brackets (e.g. "www.example.com (0, 0, 0, 0)"):

    1. first number, how many links did this user add (is the same after each link)
    2. second number, how many times did this link get added to wikipedia (for as far as the linkwatcher database goes back)
    3. third number, how many times did this user add this link
    4. fourth number, to how many different wikipedia did this user add this link.

    If the third number or the fourth number are high with respect to the first or the second, then that means that the user has at least a preference for using that link. Be careful with other statistics from these numbers (e.g. good user who adds a lot of links). If there are more statistics that would be useful, please notify me, and I will have a look if I can get the info out of the database and report it. This data is available in real-time on IRC.

    Poking COIBot

    When adding {{LinkSummary}}, {{UserSummary}} and/or {{IPSummary}} templates to WT:WPSPAM, WT:SBL, WT:SWL and User:COIBot/Poke (the latter for privileged editors) COIBot will generate linkreports for the domains, and userreports for users and IPs.



    Troubleshooting and problems

    Discussion

    Understanding why a user is hitting the blacklist

    I've been trying to coach a new user, Ladlads (talk · contribs), with adding some changes, supported by reliable sources. They say they attempted to add multiple sources (History.com and the local paper) but Wikipedia told me they were both on the blacklist. I'm a little confused:

    • While History.com is considered unreliable at RSP—for good reason—it doesn't seem to be listed at MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist.
    • I'm a little surprised that any given "local paper" would be on the RSP, as I'd assume such a thing to be at least somewhat reliable (although I'm sure some aren't).

    Is there a way to tell why their edits got disallowed? Gaelan 💬✏️ 06:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    He's using google amp links. For example: "google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/" needs to be just "history.com". Kuru (talk) 11:07, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    @Kuru: Aha, thanks. For future reference, is there a way for a (non-admin) user to see that is what's going on?
    Also, blacklisting AMP seems very likely to hit good-faith users, and AFAICT, it was added just on a suspicion that it could be used for filter circumvention. Might it be a good idea to whitelist it, then maybe set up a bot to strip AMP urls or revert if the resulting URL is blacklisted? Gaelan 💬✏️ 22:47, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Gaelan, it is also the very coreof SEO. Using a google amp link is telling google that someone is interested in the website they are redirected to, and hence increases the google ranking of the website. Add google.com/amp/s/www.myspammycompany.com as your company’s website, and every time someone finds you company on already high ranking Wikipedia and follows your link your website itself also ranks up. And there is literally no single reason why you cannot link to the proper site. You don’t write an article based on finding the result in Google, you write article after reading the page Google sends you to. Dirk Beetstra T C 19:04, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    You're probably observing that AMP URLs, in a desktop browser, just redirect through to the normal URL. But that's not the case on mobile. Try this: on a phone, google some recent piece of news (I used "glasgow immigration protest"). Click any result with a lightning bolt icon next to the domain name. Observe that the article shows up, and that your URL bar still contains the AMP URL.
    It's very easy, as we saw here, for a user who Googled something, clicked a link, read the article, and copied the URL—i.e. did exactly what they were supposed to do, unless they specifically knew they had to work around AMP—to end up copying an AMP link instead of the canonical URL.
    In my view, blocking AMP links in this fashion is very BITEy—it's an honest, easy mistake to make while making a legitimate effort to cite an RS, and is likely to hit editors who are already frustrated by their edits being reverted for being unsourced. My understanding (e.g. from the note at the top of WP:EF/R) is that we don't use automated mechanisms like this to reject good-faith edits with small policy violations, only for obvious, unambiguous abuse. Gaelan 💬✏️ 19:27, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:PACT is a thing. If someone is linking to a google search result, that has proven to often be people trying to avoid the blacklist. New users who fall on this can just be explained that they shouldn't do this and should instead link to the page directly (maybe the edit notice for edits disallowed by the blacklist could be updated to reflect this?). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:04, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    RandomCanadian, it is already in there :-) Dirk Beetstra T C 03:31, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Gaelan, I pasted www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/the-untold-story-of-how-an-escaped-slave-helped-sir-francis-drake-circumnavigate-the-globe into my browser bar, and the url gets rewritten to https://www.history.com/news/the-untold-story-of-how-an-escaped-slave-helped-sir-francis-drake-circumnavigate-the-globe … on my iPad. I don’t know what browser you use, and though I know there are odd cases, what you describe is a rarity. Follow down the google amp link will always be rewritten to the original link. Dirk Beetstra T C 03:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like it actually needs to be a phone, not a tablet - I get the redirect when my user agent is macOS Safari or iPad Safari, but not iPhone Safari. The behavior of these "AMP viewer URLs" is documented by Google in an annoyingly long blog post here - note the bullet point When users visit a Google AMP viewer URL on a platform where the viewer is not available, we redirect them to the canonical page for the document. Gaelan 💬✏️ 03:45, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Oops, pinging Beetstra Gaelan 💬✏️ 03:45, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Gaelan, for me, still no reason to allow spammers to abuse the system. It is a global rule (all ‘redirect’ services get globally blacklisted), and the only reasonable alternative is to make it a fully blocking edit filter, which is basically the same. Dirk Beetstra T C 17:44, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]