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November 22

Children in BLP

In a Biography of a Living Person, is it acceptable or not for children to be named and/or discussed if the children are not themselves famous?

More specifically, say a moderately famous person's son commits suicide. Is it acceptable to write about that suicide? Note that there are no other references to the person's children in the article.

Something about it just strikes me as inappropriate... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samantha1961 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

If the information is cited by a reliable source then it should not be considered a violation of BLP but it might be an issue with undue weight. I think the question becomes is it significant to that person the biography is about. An example of appropriate weight is probably John Walsh and the murder of his son. My two cents. XFEM Skier (talk) 00:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

While potentially possible, in general there is no good reason to and per WP:BLPNAME - they are generally only known for the 1 event of being a celebrity's child - the bar should be pretty high for including names of minor children. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:59, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I've seen lots of articles where relatives are named for no reason. AS XFEM Skier says, very often it's undue weight to name them. And in the case of underage, it's certainly inappropriate except for notable cases. --NaBUru38 (talk) 19:06, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I'd say that it might be true in regards to a Minor child in isolation, but for example, I would be fine if the article on State Senator Creigh Deeds included the name of his son who the police believe stabbed him and then committed suicide. The son in this situation was age 24.Naraht (talk) 20:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Editor removing my maintenance tags because they are "ridiculous" and "make a mess"

I have been involved in a dispute today, the subject matter does not matter for the purpose of this question, first I raised the alterations that I thought were needed to a range of articles on a talk page and on two noticeboards, got a consensus, not from very many people to be sure, but there was agreement that the changes should be made, so I started to do so and am not surprised to find myself now in a dispute with an editor who does not agree with those changes. S/he has reverted a lot of them, so instead of edit-warring I have put accuracy and point of view disputed tags on an article and a template. What does surprise me though and I am not sure how to deal with is that this user simply removes the "disputed" tags, telling me that I am being disruptive, the alteration I and others agreed should be made is "ridiculous" and the tags "make a mess". I don't want to get into a silly "I put the tags on,s/he takes them off" over and over game, but I don't want to have to accept either that the other user can just say" there's no dispute, you are disruptive". Is there anything I can do about this? maybe some way to ask for admin intervention without going to AN/I? ThanksSmeat75 (talk) 00:19, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

One user agreeing with you does not make a consensus when trying to change a very old status quo. Changes should be made, of course, but not all those that you proposed. Your edits have been reverted by a number of users, not only the one you are discussing here without notifying him. You should have explained what it is that I reverted. Since you failed to do that, I will. You changed "Franz, Duke of Bavaria" into "Franz Duke of Bavaria" because it is supposedly more accurate and more neutral, being closer to the subject's legal name ("Franz Herzog von Bayern"). It is, of course, neither more accurate nor more neutral. It is merely a terrible abuse of orthography. You inserted dispute and POV tags because I reinserted the comma, claiming that the comma makes the article biased and inaccurate. Of course, the comma does no such thing. The comma is there because common sense requires it to be there. It is one of the most basic principles of punctation, and has absolutely nothing to do with your on-going crusade. If you believe that the title should be treated as a surname (i.e. without the comma), then you should not translate it. Mihály Kovács does not become Michael Smith, nor does Stefan Schumacher become Stephen Shoemaker. However, the man whose legal name is "Franz Herzog von Bayern" is known as "Franz, Duke of Bavaria" in English, much like Dana Elaine Owens is known as Queen Latifah. This is a plain case of WP:Use English. Surtsicna (talk) 00:33, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

What I wanted to get another opinion on here was whether it is OK for you just to revert my edits, remove the tags that I put on instead of getting involved in an edit war, tell me not to be disruptive, and put the article(s) back to the way they were before. I know you think it is ridiculous, I and Dougweller do not, I really don't want to have to go to AN/I or something about this,I did not go into the subject matter because I all wanted here was an outside opinion if it is OK to remove "disputed" tags from an article and dismiss the dispute as "ridiculous".Smeat75 (talk) 00:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

claiming a consensus within less than one day, unless you have 20 people all in agreement, is generally claiming a consensus before one exists. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:04, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

First, if you are in a dispute, there are dispute resolution avenues and such you can go to without going through ANI. And based off the information presented here by both you and Surtsicna, I think that context/subject matter was important here, and that the reverting was not out of line. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:20, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

OK, forget "claiming a consensus" me and one other guy thought it was a good thing to do, and I am not surprised to be reverted. What I want an opinion on is "is it OK just to remove those dispute tags and tell me to stop being disruptive and making a mess?" And I think there will be dispute resolutions on the subject matter.Smeat75 (talk) 01:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I said that the reverting was not out of line (something that I was only able to determine knowing the background). "Making a mess" may have been a tad incivil, but I believe the removal was justified in this situation. - Purplewowies (talk) 02:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Because the overwhelming majority of sources and standard English grammar would call for "Franz, Duke of Bavaria", it is not out of line to call the removal of the comma "ridiculous" and to call it "making a mess" when, because the "ridiculous" edit was reverted, someone spammed the article with inappropriate tags. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

What RPOD said. Franz, Duke of Bavaria has a comma in English for the same reason that Diana, Princess of Wales and Philippe II, Duke of Orléans do. Cherry-picking a Wikipedia article that uses this accepted title format and attempting to change it to a nonstandard version without a wider consensus is not the way to improve the encyclopaedia. Neither is changing the focus of the dispute to the behaviour of the person who who reverted your attempt back to the accepted version and then got mildly and understandably testy when you tried to progress your point by adding inappropriate tags onto the article in question. If you want to focus on the issue, and discuss whether there is a case for changing how we punctuate the titles of all such individuals, a good starting point might be Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility). - Karenjc (talk) 10:40, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, RPOD and Karenjc. Unfortunately, the comma was again removed from the lead sentence and the inappropriate tags were readded today. Please see Franz, Duke of Bavaria. This rape of grammar is completely senseless. Surtsicna (talk) 10:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Category:Lincolnshire

The template for Lincolnshire used to include the category in its definition, so that all of the villages and civil parishes were included in the parent Lincolnshire category as well as the Villages in Lincolnshire and Civil parishes in Lincolnshire. I removed the category from the template, but all the articles are still listed in the parent category. I can't figure out what keeps them showing up. Thank you for any help. Jllm06 (talk) 01:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I was looking at WP:FAQ/Categories#Why might a category list not be up to date?, but then I was looking to see when you removed the category from Template:Lincolnshire and couldn't immediately find such a change; when was it? - David Biddulph (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, it was the Template East Lindsey (district). Jllm06 (talk) 01:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I had just spotted the similar change at Template:South Holland (district). The FAQ may therefore be the answer. - David Biddulph (talk) 01:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I will try the null edits.Jllm06 (talk) 01:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit of "Everyday Edisons"

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Google Hummingbird

I gave a blog link in the External links section and it was deleted. But many other blog links can be found in your references. Is it Wikipedia paid that the moderator can put their friends links only or paid links only. The link was - http://technologiesinternetz.blogspot.in/2013/11/how-hummingbird-has-changed-definition.html First I put this link under - References - the link was deleted. Later on i put this link under - External Link - Again it was deleted. Is it biased that only moderator or checker can do anything. Other blog links are visible but when i put my favourite blog they delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.74.24.62 (talk) 04:51, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you probably can find many blog links in external link sections. And they most always are inappropriate and should be removed. You will probably find the fact that other articles have some crap that needs to be cleaned up is not really a convincing argument that you should be allowed to clutter bad links in yet another article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:57, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Please take some time and read WP:RELY, especially sections 2.3 Biased and Opinionated Sources and 3 Questionable and self-published sources. teratogen (talk) 06:48, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

If there any remaining blog links that you think should not be listed in the article, please note them below. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Using Archive.org or Google Cache to fix dead links

If an article's reference has a dead link, is it acceptable to change the link to the Archive.org or Google Cache copy? teratogen (talk) 06:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Not Google Cache, as these quickly become dead too. Archive.org is ok, however, it is generally better to use a CS1 template (eg. {{cite web}} with archived links, as they can have |archiveurl and |archivedate , leaving the original URL intact. --Mdann52talk to me! 08:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

See more at Wikipedia:Link rot. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

kinfra

KINFRA

<large amount of draft article text removed>

K N Srikumar, Sr media advisor KINFRA, KINFRA House Sasthamangalam Trivandrum- 695010 ph 04712726585 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.238.36 (talk) 08:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Kerala Industrial Infrastructure Development Corporation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello. This is the help desk, for asking questions about using or finding your way around Wikipedia. You seem to be trying to create an article, but this is not the place to do it. Unfortunately your text also breached Wikipedia's strict rules on copyright violation, because it appeared be cut-and-pasted directly from other websites, so I have removed it. Wikipedia:Your first article is a good place to learn more about how to create articles that comply with our policies! and the Wikipedia:Article wizard is there to help you create and submit it correctly. -Karenjc (talk) 09:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Please stop posting this copy+pasted text on random (?) Wikipedia pages (1, 2, 3, 4, ...) as this just wastes the time of the volunteer editors who put things straight again. Instead, since you are the media adviser for KINFRA, you should have a look at the Wikipedia guideline on conflict of interest and its summary page. I also recommend that you register a named account, so that other editors can leave you messages more easily. Since your IP address has changed several times already today, you may not have seen the messages left for you at, for example, User talk:122.167.198.10. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Harvard Lampoon

The wiki article on Harvard Lampoon tragically and erroneously states that Douglas Kenney and Henry Beard are the co-founders of Harvard Lampoon. Truthfully, one of the longest published humor magazines was founded by a girl and only a girl. Submissions by other humorists, even if they're well liked by the girl, are not accepted for life.. Also, Harvard Lampoon is in no way associated with any college and the college which is near the Harvard Lampoon is not named Harvard, but everybody in the whole world knows that. Please correct the mistakes on your wiki article so that I could sleepy happily :) Also, National whatever is not associated with Harvard Lampoon! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.216.232.26 (talk) 08:52, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

If you have reliable published sources for the information, you are welcome to edit the article, giving the sources. Alternatively, the talk page Talk:Harvard Lampoon is the right place to discuss improvements to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 10:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Harvard Lampoon makes no claim to be founded by Douglas Kenney and Henry Beard. Their only mention is: "An important line of demarcation came when Lampoon editors Douglas Kenney and Henry Beard wrote the Tolkien parody Bored of the Rings." This post sounds like attempted humor. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

The first sentence of the article in question is "The Harvard Lampoon is an undergraduate humor publication founded in 1876 by seven undergraduates at Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts." Considering that Harvard University had no women undergraduates in 1876 (or for decades thereafter), one can only assume that 66.216.232.26 is trying to be either clever or insulting. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:51, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Article on John McKelvey - Actor

I submitted a page on John McKelvey, the actor, some months ago. So far nothing has happened. I am new to submitting articles to Wikipedia, and I confess that I do not understand all the terms, protocols and stuff. Can anyone help? Has my article been received? Is it in the right format? How does it become part of Wikipedia?

Regards,

Arthur Hill Ganzyratcher — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ganzyratcher (talk • contribs) 08:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I quickly looked at your draft and would say that when it gets reviewed it will be declined. While you have 3 references at the end I don't see that they are referencing particular data and don't meet the reliable source requirement for Wikipedia. It is also not formatted correctly for a Wikipedia article. I suggest looking through WP:YFA. My quick Google search did not return any reliable sources but you might be able to find more. Good luck XFEM Skier (talk) 09:27, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

It was submitted in August. Have it been missed for reviewing somehow? The backlog is not that long, is it? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

It was created back in August but not actually submitted. The correct template was applied this morning by User:Rankersbo in this edit, and it has now joined the queue for review. - Karenjc (talk) 10:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn´t know the difference. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:15, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I think that the submission was actually made in the previous edit, also this morning. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:42, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

In addition to what is said above, IMDB is not a reliable source. See WP:RS/IMDB. Dismas|^(talk) 10:25, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/John Campbell McKelvey reads like a biography. However, it appears that you got the information from John McKelvey himself (Resume and 'A Life in the theatre' a personal recollection by John McKelvey). Wikipedia uses sources that are independent of the subject (here, independent of John McKelvey) to determine whether to have an article on the topic and determine what should go into the article. Resume and 'A Life in the theatre' a personal recollection by John McKelvey are not sources that are independent of John McKelvey. From his career, he likely has received newspaper, book, and/or magazine coverage that is independent of John McKelvey. Look for and use those independent sources to rewrite the draft. For an example basic biography formatting, take a look at James Le Jeune. The best examples are at Category:FA-Class biography articles. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:24, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Anyone knowledgable about the workings of Google searches and deleted articles?

Hi! Brief summary: An article was created, tagged for deletion, and then deleted by me. Editor asked a question on my page (turns out the article was an autobiography) , and then deleted that, but I responded on her talk page. In the meantime, she raised a request at WP:REFUND, and got a response on her talk page.

Summary over! She has now asked a question regarding Google searches and how to stop the deleted article (which is stating that she is non-notable) cropping up when people search her name. I don't know enough about the workings of search engines to be able to help her. Can anyone stop by her talk page and help her out? Thanks! Stephen! ^Coming... 10:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I've observed that when I post a new Wikipedia article, the article turns up almost immediately in a Google search. (Google's bots are probably crawling Wikipedia 24/7.) It usually is listed down on the Google search results page, but rises up over the next few days. I assume the opposite would be true for a delete page such as "Mina Ghabel Lunde - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia".Google search. Perhaps over a few days, the Google search of the Mina Ghabel Lunde Wikipedia article will drop down in rank and eventually disappear once the Google bot reports back to Google that there is no such Mina Ghabel Lunde Wikipedia article page. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

How to rename the category

Hello,

what is the procedure to rename the category title which return wrongly.

Regards Ananthesha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ananthesha (talk • contribs) 14:22, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Renaming of categories is done at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism text not findable in Wikisource

As reported by User:Discmon in Talk:Escalator, there is some vandalous text appearing in the article, but the offending text appears nowhere in the Wikisource. My guess is that it comes from a vandalized template or Wikicode, but I don't know how to localize it further. Can anybody help fix this, or at least direct me to where to ask for more expert help? Thank you. Reify-tech (talk) 17:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Actually it was due a server cache. I purged the page and it's gone. This is the edit. Cheers, --Glaisher [talk] 17:47, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wish to add names to incomplete list of those already identified as 'Men of Santiago de los Caballeros, Dominican Republic'

Hello as found on the the Subject/headline above, I have been trying and failing to edit/add names to the list acknowledged as accepting additional names. Each name of this page has a corresponding page number to locate, and learn more about, and the root of this page was the story about a popular and famous, Dominican artist named Yoryi Morel, whom I knew well as I did the members of his family. I knew many other persons of Santiago as well, a landlocked, second city of the D.R. I would like to add names of people I remember to this page. I have not logged in with Wiki, and I appreciate all of its volunteers as I too wish to become one of. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.217.48.15 (talk) 17:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Please add links to the actual pages you are referring to, without them it is very difficult to figure out what you are talking about. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:32, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

The IP is talking about Santiago de los Caballeros, where Yoryi Morel is mentioned. Although User:TheRedPenOfDoom has removed some redlinks from the "Notable people" list, as of 1 November, Morel was not on that list, so has not been removed recently (I haven't gone right back), so I'm not quite sure what the IP is referring to. Arjayay (talk) 19:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I believe the IP user is trying to add new Notables to the page, and is finding that his red links fall victim to the Red Pen. He's not complaining about Morel's page being missing. I think he wants to know how his additions can survive (and perhaps, how they can have pages like Morel's, too.) The best answer is probably that to justify their belonging on the list, (if they are indeed notable) the subjects first need to have article pages written on them to assert their notability. --Kdtully (talk) 03:41, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

And of course we would not have a list of "Men of..." any place; merely of "Notable people of...". --Orange Mike | Talk 01:45, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle twinkle

Hey guys,

I don't know what was wrong with my TWINKLE, but its not working properly for me for the past hour. Is anybody having the same issue or its working properly? --    L o g  X   18:20, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

It's been reported on the Twinkle talk page here: Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#Glitch?. Dismas|^(talk) 01:57, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

November 23

Access archives archived by Miszabot

How can I, or is there any easy way, to access and search through the archives that Miszabot and others have moved old sections of talk pages to? Eflatmajor7th (talk) 07:10, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

The archives usually appear in the upper right corner of the screen that has archives on them. If you have the specific page that you are looking people might be able to help more. XFEM Skier (talk) 07:50, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

The Talk:Doctor Who page has an archive with a search box set up for the archive. You should be able to set up a similar archive search box on the talk pages to which you are referring as an easy way, to access and search through the archives. The search box seems to operate the same as adding the search string "October prefix:Talk:Doctor Who/" in the general search box on the upper right of your screen. -- Jreferee (talk) 08:12, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, it was right in front of my face and I just didn't see it... Eflatmajor7th (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

biographical entry

My biographical entry is incomplete. What is the procedure to improve it. Is it ethical for me to send the informaton, or sould it be from an independent source? To whom would it be sent?

John Weeks Professor Emeritus of Economics SOAS, University of London

Most recent book: The Economics of the 1%: How mainstream economics serves the rich, obscures reality and distorts policy (Anthem, January 2014) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.45.52 (talk) 11:40, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Professor Weeks, and thanks for asking. As you have realised, you have a conflict of interest, and so are strongly discouraged from editing the article. As indicated on the page Best practices for editors with close associations, your best course is to make suggestions on the talk page (in this case, Talk:John Weeks (economist)), so that uninvolved editors can decide what to add. All information should be referenced to reliable published sources; for non-controversial factual information the source can be connected with you (eg the SOAS web page) but for anything evaluative or potentially controversial it should be referenced to an independent source. In the case of a book, its existence is easy to substantiate; but an article about a person should not necessarily mention every publication, and it would be desirable to reference an independent source such as a review that establishes that the book is notable enough to appear in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 11:55, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

There is no problem with you identifying source material that is independent of yourself. However, your recent book is not independent of John Weeks. The SOAS staff listing source and Weeks personal home page cited as references in the John Weeks article - the only two references listed in that article - are not independent of John Weeks. The columns you have written and the things you said in interviews are not independent of John Weeks. Unfortunately, your name is so common that it is difficult to find any reliable source newspaper, books, or magazine articles about your life. You can help put by identifying two reliable sources that discuss you life in detail and that are independent of John Weeks. You can post that source material in this thread. I suggest avoid listing websites and press releases as source material. You also can create an 'In the News' section on your personal home page that lists newspaper, book, and magazine media coverage of your life events (including reviews of your books and other written material). Wikipedia editors then can go through that source list and expand the John Weeks biography. It would help Wikipedia editors if you use APA style, Harvard style , or Chicago style with URL links to the source material. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:00, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Which template to use for tagging external link

When should I use {{Login required}} and when {{Registration required}} when tagging an external link? More specifically, which of the two should I use for tagging the fourth link at Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search#External links? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 13:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

GIMPS Forum is an official discussion forum of GIMPS, but if it requires a login and the page shown by clicking on the URL does show any information about GIMPS that would be helpful to the Wikipedia or is directly relevant to the GIMPS Wikipedia article. WP:LINKSTOAVOID (1) site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a featured article, (6) Sites that require registration to view the relevant content, (10) chat or discussion forums, (12) Open wikis (for the Mersenne Wiki EL), 13. Sites that are only indirectly related to the article's subject, such as a discussion forum website on an article about the general GIMPS subject. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:50, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

And regarding the GIMPS Wikipedia article, there are hundreds of reliable sources that are independent of the subject from which the article can be written. Yet, the article is almost entirely sourced to the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search published material, which is not independent of the subject of the article. The article should be stubbed and allowed to expand with independent source material. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:57, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Help with copyright issue please!

I've found a picture from a different language Wikipedia article that I want to use on the English Wikipedia, the original is here, I have looked around on the internet for this and can only seem to find it on journals and other sort of sites with no information on the copyright such as [1] it comes from allegedly the Richard Rein - Rasse und Kultur unserer Urväter. Ein methodisch-schultechnisches Hilfsbuch für Unterricht und Vorträge in der Vorgeschichte. 1936. "Race and culture of our ancestors. Methodological manual for school classes and lectures on ancient history." but I can't seem to find this on any official websites. The article in the Russian Wikipedia states that its past its copyright date

"This work is in the public domain because the term of the exclusive rights to it has expired. It was first made ​​public until January 1, 1943 , and its author (if known) died before that date."

So would this be okay to just save the image and upload it as copyright expired?--Windows66 (talk) 14:34, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Windows66, the copyright experts hang out at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:48, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I'll ask away over there now, thanks!--Windows66 (talk) 16:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

my wikikedia page

Hello, I am writing you because a wikipedia luxembourg has been created. And as a luxembourgish director, my information are visible. I dont want that some information about me been so easily found. Even if they are somehwere in internet. I asked the moderator about my request and they are not doing anything. If my request is not done, i want that they remove me totally from wikipedia, what they ndont do either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyrus neshvad (talk • contribs) 14:56, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

List of Wikipedias#List does not show a link for Luxembourgish Wikipedia. This appears to be Luxembourgish Wikipedia. There is a Diskussioun:Cyrus Neshvad here that began 7. Aug. 2013. It looks like the Diskussioun:Cyrus Neshvad page was blanked 13. Aug. 2013‎ by User:Zinneke.[2] The article page, Cyrus Neshvad, is still be there. English Wikipedia's information on Dealing with articles about yourself is at WP:BIOSELF. English Wikipedia information where the subject of an article has requested deletion of the article is at WP:BLPDEL. You maybe able to use that information back at Luxembourgish Wikipedia to support your request that the Cyrus Neshvad article on Luxembourgish Wikipedia be deleted. English Wikipedia does not normally delete or blank discussion talk pages. We do have Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing and Wikipedia:Oversight that can result in the removal of particular posts, including talk page posts. Luxembourgish Wikipedia may have something equivalent to these. English Wikipedia does not have a Cyrus Neshvad page, so there is not much we can do here. You might be able to find help from users listed in Category:Luxembourg Wikipedians or Category:Wikipedians in Luxembourg.-- Jreferee (talk) 15:23, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

privacy concerns are probably best handled through the WP:OTRS channels. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:30, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I've been asked to comment on this by Jreferee. I'm afraid that, not writing Luxembourgish, I cannot contribute to the deletion discussion directly, but I will say that I'm not sure what Mr. Neshvad finds bad about his article (which incidentally is here). It seems to be pretty anemic and carries only very basic information, with no "controversy" or remotely libelous or invasive content. In fact, 50% of the article is content found on Mr. Neshvad's own website, and the rest comes from the Lux government's website. I know different Wikis have different notability criteria, but to be honest, I think his best option might be to argue that he is non-notable. There are certainly no WP:RS on him that I can discover. Brigade Piron (talk) 16:46, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Help on Creating A New Page (Unique-ish situation)

Hello, I'm a new user to Wikipedia seeking to create a new page. However, I'd like to state my situation a bit more specifically so I could possibly have a bit more pinpointed help. I currently taking a Literature class in my high school that is requiring it's students to do a project on something that would change the world. I decided that my world-changing project would revolve around adding to the largest collection of information on the Internet, this site. If it wouldn't be any trouble, I would like some suggestions on tips on what I could create a new page on as well as some of the materials (like books) I should keep in mind and use when creating this new page. Thanks, gauhceGoose — Preceding unsigned comment added by GaucheGoose (talk • contribs) 16:14, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

More potential subjects that you can shake a stick at : Wikipedia:Requested articles.

Reading this before you start will probably be very helpful: Wikipedia:Your first article.

Good luck!-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

What are the best hours to edit/view Wikipedia?

There have been some complaints recently (example} about busy servers and technical problems. Just wondering if there are less busy hours in the day to access Wikipedia. Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 17:39, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I can only find some extremely old (2002) data at WP:Traffic which suggests that the quietest time then was 03.00 - 07.00 UTC Wikipedia:Statistics may be able to suggest a more up to date page, but so far I haven't been able to find one. Arjayay (talk) 14:05, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

content authenticity and lack of monitoring

please remind the general public more often that what isthe mode of operation of wikipedia. Fact is that amount of disinformation is growing so fast and especially people behind many usernames are in fact professional promotion agencies and thus provide paid-for dis-information. Currently many so-called trend topics, ufos, genetics, etc. are soon containing more paid pages than actual, referenced information.Say, you have interest on origin of human. 1st thing you get is fiction after fiction stating notes and quotes from tv-series!!! Pleade, just delete or categorize pages like those under class: fiction. To begin with, separate fact and fiction! Only thing preventing me from donating money for wikipedia is the fact that you do not provide what you say you do. Eg. ancient aliens as tv-series is reauired to have statement about program being fictious entertainment, but wikipedia claims it as truth or at least as equivivalent. Now, you have a decision to make, cut out shit or sell shit. What is it goung to be? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.131.237.31 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 23 November 2013‎ (UTC)

You could help us by giving examples of articles with misinformation in them, or fiction presented as fact, so that we can deal with them. Maproom (talk) 18:50, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Editing

Hi. I am a donor to Wikipedia as I find it so useful. However I find editing so complex I have been unable to add an article. The "Teahouse" was equally bewildering and when I tried to type a question on "livechat" my typing did not connect Is there a user friendly guide to editing Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidg58 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

The tutorial at WP:TUTORIAL should help you get started. RudolfRed (talk) 20:54, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Selecting beta and visual editor might help as well. XFEM Skier (talk) 07:35, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

November 24

Infobox Float Right

I'm using this sample infobox to guide me in creating my own. All I want it to do is align to the right like most infoboxes found on the Wiki. -- MF14 00:25, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

One way to do it is to use the infobox class in MediaWiki:Common.css by starting with class="wikitable infobox". Another way is manually adding CSS like class="wikitable" style="float: right;". PrimeHunter (talk) 01:57, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that helped! -- MF14 05:11, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

information source

There is a person with an article in Wikipedia that I am related to. I have some information that I would like to add to the article to clarify part of the article. How can I do this since I am the source?LouGarfinkle (talk) 02:49, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia relies on published sources for article content. Personal knowledge isn't acceptable. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:56, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Style Manual

Sir/Ms

The style manual deprecates the use of "issue" when "problem" is intended, yet the template "issues" inserts a statement that a page "has multiple issues". How can this be remedied? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.246.9 (talk) 07:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

This has already been asked and answered at the appropriate talk page, which is Template talk:Multiple issues. There are many issues (such as style) that aren't necessarily problems.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

The style manual is discussing actual article content. The phrasing of clean up banners does not fall under the Manual of Style for article content. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:27, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Website including

how can i put my website in Wikipedia ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.18.231.63 (talk) 14:25, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

YOU cannot. ( see out conflict of interest policy.)

In order for a subject to have an article, the topic must meet some standard criteria. If your company meets those, you can propose that an article be created by following the steps outlined Wikipedia:Requested articles. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:51, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Mis-use and alternating comments, attack's on autism with false information.

Originally I changed the Autism article to be classed as a 'condition', I have been told to talk about it in the Talk:Autism page I have done, I did. I added my topic to the talk page, I didn't add/remove any comments, yet user Favonian (talk) has used this to remove the topic, accused me of Vandalism. Currently I have noticed the person is one of your admins, is mis-used the privileges given to that person to exploit the page to provoke responses, the fact is I have Autism myself, I find that what he's doing is no better than Racism since he's removing my appeals, accusing me of removing it. I have requested a cease, desist. I'm asking for something to be done about the member, by restricting the person's systems since they clearly are being exploited. --Ronnie42 (talk) 14:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

@Ronnie42: Hello Ronnie42. This is a very straightforward matter. Maybe, though, you are not aware of the result of your edits. Please examine this "diff" showing the changes you made when you edited the talk page. As you can see, you removed massive amounts of text already present on the page by other users. Yes, you really did, despite what you say above. That can occasionally be done by newish users by mistake. That was the reason User:Favonian reverted your edits. And he stated that this was his reason in the edit summary that accompanied his edit. To wit: "Reverted 1 edit by Ronnie42 (talk): Massive deletion of other editors' postings."

You then undid his reversion with the edit summary "Vandalism/Offensive removal by Favonian". It is unclear to me whether you meant by that, that you found the reversion of your edits offensive, or you were reinstating your edits because you had intentionally removed the content because you thought its content was offensive. You were reverted with a link to WP:NOTCENSORED to cover the second possibility. Again, you were reverted not because of what you said, but because of the removal of other people's posts.

So, what is straightforward is that you may not remove lots of talk page discussion by others and if you persist in doing this, you may very well and rightly be blocked from editing. But the issue all resolves on whether you were aware or not that that is what you were actually doing. If you were not aware as your post implies, then it's all a bit of a misunderstanding, but you must understand that the diff link I posted above does not lie. You are welcome to post to the talk page in a civil manner. You just must be careful not to remove other user's posts. If you post there again, you might try doing so using the "New section" link at the top of the page, which should ensure you don't remove content again by accident. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:08, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes that sounds about right, I have recently messaged the user about this, about the confusion and it did seem from my POV that it felt like discrimination but wasn't aware that it was actually deleting mass amount of data, I wasn't even aware there was a huge amount of data being removed at the time. Anyway thanks for getting back to me about this. --Ronnie42 (talk) 15:27, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

In this 16 September 2013 edit,[3] you changed "{{Infobox disease" to read "{{Infobox condition". The two "{{" to the left are part of a Wikipedia:Transclusion feature. Since there is a template:Infobox disease but not a template:infobox condition, the change you made cause the template Infobox disease to no longer work. The template no longer worked due to your edit and Haploidavey reverted the edit, noting "I'm sorry, but we don't have an infoboc for "Conditions" - please discuss this on the talk-page."[4] The talk page discussions on Autism being a disease can be found here. The Autism page has one disease mention "whether these abnormalities are relevant to or secondary to autism's disease processes" which I'm thinking we need to revise. Also, we probably need to use a different Infobox - not named Infobox disease. Even if the text "Infobox disease" is hidden from view, editors to the page may have more sensitivity to the topic and there's reason to change any material that might give offense. -- Jreferee (talk) 15:59, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I removed the "disease" word from "autism's disease processes".[5] -- Jreferee (talk)

Unable to revert edits on Yahoo! Mail (followup)

I am just following up on an ancient question I posted here on November 20th. I am still hoping it will get some answers on Talk:Yahoo! Mail#! in Name, but if not then what should I do next? XOttawahitech (talk) 16:03, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Adding a person

Hi,

How do I add a person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenKingKiddy (talk • contribs) 16:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Add what kind of person to where? If you mean "how do I create an article about a person?", then the answer is that once you have checked that the person is notable in Wikipedia's special sense, you can use the Article wizard to start creating it; or if you do not feel you are up to this, or if you are closely connected with the subject, you can request an article at Requested articles. If you mean "how do I add a person to a list article", you can just edit the article, but you should not do so unless the person is notable, and has or could have an article. If you mean something else, please clarify. --ColinFine (talk) 17:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Gilligan's Island

As usual you need to check your facts a lot better before you let these articles go public. The page on Gilligan's island is wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx7A4sxJi7c That was the first version of the theme song. It was only used in the pilot episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.177.3.223 (talk) 16:57, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Gilligan's Island is a long article with several theme song mentions, including differences in the pilot episode. Please be more specific about which statement you think should be changed. I have never seen the show. A post at Talk:Gilligan's Island may reach people who have. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:17, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Problem with equals sign in template

Have a look at this version of the article Amiga software. The section Multimedia appears as just "3". What was happening there was that the section made use of the Columns-list template, but the text given to that template included an equals sign "=" in the URL http://www.qdev.de/?printversion=1&location=amiga/amicamedia, pointing to the AmiCaMedia homepage. However, the site seems to actually need the equals sign in the URL. Escaping it with %3D wouldn't work. So I had to change the link to point to the www.qdev.de main page instead. Is there anything that can be done here? JIP | Talk 18:21, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, this is a known problem when passing complicated text as un-named templates parameters to templates such as {{columns-list}}. The workaround is to fill in the missing parameter names, "1" and "2". Compare these markup examples:

{{columns-list|3|Lots of text including something with an = sign}}
{{columns-list|1=3|2=Lots of text including something with an = sign}}

...giving these results:

3

3

There's a fuller description at the first bullet-point at Help:Template#Usage hints and workarounds. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:18, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

identity theft

Jennifer Campbell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

my name is Jennifer Campbell. Some other woman has her picture posted on my page. I have never done any editing On it, but a year back she tried to change birth dates etc; I am a blonde, not brunette. My pictures can be found from bay watch or Seinfeld. She obviously is not me. Can you help? It would be so appreciated. Best wishes, Jennifer Campbell Sometimes posted as Jennifer Lynn Campbell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.104.176 (talk) 18:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Our article on Jennifer Campbell has no picture, and seems never to have had one. As for the issue with the birthdate etc, this was over a year ago, and reverted after a few days. It is unfortunate that this vandalism took as long as it did to revert, but I hardly think this qualifies as 'identity theft'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:49, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, if you're talking about the photo of the Canadian opinion columnist that shows up when you do a Google search for Jennifer Campbell, I'm afraid that Google is the one who adds that image, not Wikipedia. Google's been known to mess this up before, but there's nothing Wikipedia can really do about it. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 19:04, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I see that an image of the correct Jennifer Campbell has now been added to our article. This might possibly solve the Google issue, but it is entirely out of our hands. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Here is additional information in case you don't understand why we say it's not our fault:

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information.

Google's search page on your name has a "Feedback" link where you can mark the photo as wrong. We have no inside knowledge of how Google processes such reports. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:56, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted post...

We created an article about our organization on your service and was pleasantly surprised to find out that the article was deleted without any warning. Our Organization is duly registered under the Norwegian law.

This is the message I got while accessing the link :

Nigerians United Against Corruption

This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

This is the link to the About us page created - Nigerians United Against Corruption

Why was it deleted? Why was there no contact prior to its deletion?

Thanks 81.167.80.126 (talk) 20:48, 24 November 2013 (UTC) 'Dele Olawole

The deletion log says "Currently has no sources and is written like an advert." Not everything in the world can or should have an article in Wikipedia: subjects are required to be notable in Wikipedia's special sense, which means that reliable sources (such as major newspapers or magazines, or books from reputable publishers) have already written about the subject; and an article must contain references to these sources. We also require that articles be written in a neutral tone, and anything that reads like promotion is not permitted. Assuming the PROD procedure was followed, the article will have been proposed for deletion for seven days, after which, if nobody objected, it will have been deleted.

If you think that your organisation meets the criteria of notability, and you want there to be an article, I suggest you use the Article wizard to create one in a safer way. However, you first need to consider that you have a conflict of interest, and are therefore strongly discouraged from editing such an article, as it is likely to be difficult for you to write in a suitably neutral way about it. Your best bet may be to assemble the necessary references, and request somebody else write the article, at WP:Requested articles. --ColinFine (talk) 21:00, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

On 22 July the article was proposed for deletion with a big box at top of the page saying: "Currently has no sources and is written like an advert. Google test brings up some sources but they are of dubious reliability." A notification was immediately posted to the article creator at User talk:Oladeleolawole#Proposed deletion of Nigerians United Against Corruption. I guess that's you. Users can set an email address at Special:Preferences and request email notification when their talk page is edited but you apparently haven't done that. There were no objections to the proposed deletion after 8 days and the article was deleted 30 July. This was all in accordance with our policies. We are an encyclopedia with millions of articles and don't contact external people or organizations when we make or delete articles about them. Organizations are generally not supposed to create articles about themselves anyway. I'm confused by your statement that you were "pleasantly surprised to find out that the article was deleted". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Irony Rojomoke (talk) 22:41, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Not sure if article I am working on has been reloaded for consideration?

Hi there ... I have uploaded a revised text further to helpful comment provided by the wiki team. I have made changes as recommended. I have reloaded text but have not heard anything back? Article was on architect Paul Stallan. Is it just the case that the team is busy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stallan-Brand (talk • contribs) 23:01, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

This was apparently submitted for review today. The backlog is on the order of three weeks. Moreover, please read referencing for beginners . There was an unclosed ref tag that was hiding a significant part of the content. I have fixed that. There appear to be bare inline URLs used as citations. The one citation using ref tags has no metadata (publisher, author, date, etc)) cite templates, such as {{cite web}} are one way (but not the only way) to record such information. I advise you to improve the cite formatting or ask someone to assist you in doing so, before this comes up for review. DES ^(talk) 23:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh for the recored i am refering to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Paul Stallan. It is very helpful to give a link when you post about a particular article or draft here. DES ^(talk) 23:16, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

I have done a good deal of clean uip of the formatting and a little copy-editing of the text. Note that if you find your self using a <br> tag, you have probably missed the correct wiki-markup. And use of an external link form (with http or https) to a Wikipedia article is almost never a good idea. DES ^(talk) 23:53, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Also you should read our conflict of interest guideline and our guideline on autobiography, as this draft seems to be about yourself. DES ^(talk) 00:01, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

November 25

Adding Photo

Help Me How may I add a photo to an existing page — Preceding unsigned comment added by PGHPA611 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

See WP:UPIMAGE. Dismas|^(talk) 04:41, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Steroids image

My question concerns the article Steroids (journal), where I am trying to add an image I recently uploaded to the article, but can't get it to display right, or at all. The file is File:Steroids journal cover.gif. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jinkinson talk to me 04:19, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Never mind, I have fixed it. Jinkinson talk to me 04:22, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

password and email

Hi. Ive been given the task of trying to create/update our organisations Wiki page. Nothing has been done on it for years and no-one knows now who created it. I have our user name but I do not have the password and it seems that the email address you have for us to reset the password is not one we use. Could you please assist me? Thanks, 203.193.196.20 (talk) 04:40, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

There are a couple things you should know at this point.

1. Accounts are not to be used by a group. Each account should only be used by one person. So, setting up an account for your group was not to be done in the first place and therefore if you intend on using an account to edit, someone should make an account for only themselves. See WP:ACCOUNT
2. Editing article about a person or group that you are affiliated with is a clear conflict of interest. (See WP:COI) While this is still allowed, it is strongly discouraged. The best thing to do is to post your comments and corrections (with reliable sources) on the article's talk page which can be found by clicking on the "Talk" or "Discussion" (it depends on which skin you are using for the web site) link at the top of the article.
3. Without knowing the email address, or even if an address was linked to the account (this is not required), there is no way to reset the password and have it given to anyone else.

I hope you take these points into consideration. If you would like, you can post the title of the article here and that may encourage some of the people that frequent this help desk to at least look it over to see if there are any obvious corrections that need to be made. Dismas|^(talk) 04:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

That is good info to know - Im very new to this. I would post the title of the article - but there is absolutely nothing on it. Its just the name of the org. So, Im sorry if this is a silly question, but if the org I work for, which is a charity, wanted to see their info on a wiki page, then how does that happen? Thanks, 203.193.196.20 (talk) 05:04, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

The best way is to wait for someone not affiliated with the organization to write about it. Failing that, if there were no existing page you might use the articles for creation process, provided that you clearly disclose your affiliation. If the existing page/article really has no content at all, it could be deleted on those grounds. Alternatively, you could post on nthe talk page of the existing article. What is the title of the existing article, anyway? DES ^(talk) 05:21, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)So the page is blank? I'm surprised it hasn't been deleted yet. Putting that aside for the moment, first the organization must be notable per Wikipedia guidelines. See WP:ORG. If it is notable enough for an article and you intend on writing it anyway, I suggest going through the Articles for creation process. That way it can be reviewed by a neutral editor for things like: A) promotional language and tone, B) checking to make sure that the org is notable, C) the article has reliable sources. Dismas|^(talk) 05:23, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

User:Family Drug Support This is the page. Thank you, I will have a look at the article for creation process too. 203.193.196.20 (talk) 05:31, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

That is not an article. It is a user page. Whenever someone creates an account, they get a user page. That user just never added anything to it. It's not an article for your org. Dismas|^(talk) 05:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Jeffrey Ingram - Dissociative Fugue Amnesia....

I am the wife of Jeffery Ingram and would be happy to work with whomever to update the page with actual information regarding his condition. His name is misspelled. I'm happy to help with links, facts, etc. regarding this rare medical condition. just let me know how and what you would like to see.

Thank you Penny and Jeffery Ingram — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.159.121.124 (talk) 05:21, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

As his wife, you have an obvious conflict of interest. Your best method is to post on Talk:Jeffrey Ingram with updated or corrected information, and if possible links or cites to reliable sources that support your statements. Note that blog or social media postings are mostly not acceptable, except ones form the subject himself to show what he has said. The name can be fixed, but for this also a source should be cited. DES ^(talk) 05:55, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Just a Nice Guy - I think NOT

Unfortunate personal encounter, not relevant to Wikipedia. DES (talk) 06:10, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
<redacted> once lived in Winnetka IL. How do I know this? One night after being recently hired by the highly regarded "Jack" who was prevously been the head chaf of Skokie Counrty Club. I was a bus person and wanted more than anything to be a real waitrees. One night everyone was abuzz. I had no idea what was going on but was bound to find out. The waitresses were hesitant, and nervourse as they told me that <redacted> and <redacted> jsut entered the restaurant. I told them not to worry, I would confirm their answer. I was pouring water for [her] staring at [him] to be sure it was him. Marlo screemed in her "That Girl" voice. "Oh ... just look at me, I am a mess". This prompted [him] to shout far to loudly,"Oh My God, What have you done, Just look at what you have done you fool!". I appologized, offered to have her clothes professionally cleaned (It was only water after all!) Unfortunatly, [they] made such a noisy scene that not only did the entire resturant know of the incidnet but Jack the "chef" came out of the kitche and fired me on the spot. Everyone saw it, everyone knew. I was humiliated to a degree I can not explain. It has effected me to this day and I am 52 years old. ...if you couldn't find it in your heart to explain that I was young, inexperienced, and nieve, I feel so sorry for you. It helpes me explain why I saw <redacted> every day in the smoking area of <redacted> in Winnetka. Actually he was a friend of my step brother so I hope he is doing well. You really messed up my confidence and self esteem, Best Regards, Ellen Evans <telephone redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.51.210.86 (talk) 05:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

The above anecdote is not a question for help in using Wikipedia, nor would it be suitable for incorporating into a Wikipedia article as it stands. it is not appropriate here. i am leaving it up, but hatted, for a time merely so that the original poster can see what happened to it. DES ^(talk) 06:15, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

wrong info for Wyott tribe on Table Bluff... not a picture of Rez? please reply ..ty

• English:* THIS IS WRONG!!!

View to the north from Table Bluff towards Humboldt Bay with the blue Seth Kinman home in the foreground. Kinman had the first accepted land claim in Humboldt County, California. To the left and rear is the large white home of The Haneys, a properous merchant family. Date23 March 2011.....c

THIS IS NOT A PICTURE OF THE RESERVATION. The area is to the left and we have a much better picture and view from the rez that you can take a pictufrom. It is not fair to the Wiyot people to show a picture of white settelers land after what the white settlers did to the Wiyots in the 1860 massacre. Kevin Foster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.39.231 (talk) 06:29, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I think that this refers to this picture. Maproom (talk) 08:18, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Losing my place when I go back

If i click on a link within the text of an article to go to another page, when i click the back button, it takes me back to the section of the article i was reading, but not to the exact place. I have to reopen the section and scroll down to find where i was when i clicked the link. I'm using Chrome on a mobile phone. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrdlu junction (talk • contribs) 08:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

User name redirect

Hi Admin/moderator,

my old user name "infocomp" is blocked but i created a new user name "maniamit" today.

i want my old user name (infocomp) to be redirected on new user.

as you had informed me to rename my existing user name.

Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maniamit (talk • contribs) 08:34, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

If you ask for your old user name to be changed to a new user name, through the process at WP:CHU, then the previous history will be redirected. Creating a new account from scratch won't do that. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:49, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Query Missing or empty | title= (help)

Sirs,

I am trying to post an article on Wikipedia on a UK company.Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/AlcoSense

1. I am getting error messages on the page that I am currently working on. The errors occur on the references in the text and the error messages read . Missing or empty |title= (help)

I have embedded the page and comments at the bottom of this message. You will see that I am having problems with the references no 10 and 13-17. I have read that where the error occurs it may need a title or chapter. When I add the title of the referenced article the entry was deleted or it made no difference to the error message. Can you please explain (as simply as possible) WHAT this error message means i.e. WHAT information it is asking for and HOW I should present it? Thank you.

2. As a separate point I would like to present the page in a different template (with a separate box highlighting the company details) as per this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humax I cannot find the template options. Can you advise me where I can find a choice of template page layouts?

Many thanks NowEddy — Preceding unsigned comment added by NowEddy (talk • contribs)

I've removed the text of your article. We don't post articles here. If anyone wants to answer your questions, they can go to the article at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/AlcoSense. Dismas|^(talk) 10:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Any time you use the cite web template, you have to provide the title of the page. So your reference should look something like this: <ref name=foobar>{{cite web|url=http://www.example.com|title=Example title|accessdate=25 November 2013}}</ref>

It's the title part that it is complaining about. So just put "title=whatever the title is" between two pipe characters. Dismas|^(talk) 10:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and the Humax article uses Template:Infobox company on the right side to sum up the company details. I think that's what you were asking for. Dismas|^(talk) 11:06, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

Hi, I'm trying to get factual corrections made to an article where I have a personal conflict of interest and so I'm avoiding editing the article directly. I've already done the obvious thing and requested changes on the article Talk page, but it's a low traffic article and in nearly two months no-one has responded. Many thanks in advance for any help, MartinPoulter (talk) 11:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I responded on that talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

The article is to a troubling extent based om primary sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:17, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Revisions changed

Ganeden Biotech (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello there. I've recently make a bunch of revisions to the page for Ganeden Biotech and I see now that it's reverted back to it's original information. The information is old and wrong. How do I bring back all the revisions I made? Thank you. Erin Miller Marketing Manager Ganeden Biotech — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.88.24.34 (talk) 13:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

If you go to the article and click on the history tab you will see that your edits were reverted because of a copyright violation. If you are the owner of the copyrighted material, then you could denote it to Wikipedia by the processes described for donating copyrighted material, but in general material from company websites is too promotional to give the neutral point of view required for an encyclopedia. You ought to read the guidance on editing a topic where you have a conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:29, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I revised the article.[6] It probably could used another once over to see if any advertising focus remains. The company's growth is impressive and its subject matter foot and toenail fungus and for psoriasis etc. would be interesting to expand on. -- Jreferee (talk) 16:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

How i put a website in Wikipedia

How i put a website in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.18.231.44 (talk) 15:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Assuming that you mean "how do I create an article?", please read Your First Article.--ukexpat (talk) 15:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Polandball cannot into english Wikipedia

There's no article about Polandball in english Wikipedia, unlike several other versions of Wikipedia. An attempt to create an article was deleted, despite it was referenced.

Is there any chance to create a "delete-proof" article about Polandball in english Wikipedia? What is needed to do that?

I appreciate your answer.

Thanks in advance.

--Babelia (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Nothing in Wikipedia is "delete-proof". An article on Polandball may be recreated, and may then subject to another proposal for deletion, probably with the same result as last time. Maproom (talk) 16:31, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

You should also note that English-language Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines regarding what may be considered appropriate encyclopaedic content - other-language Wikipedias may have different standards, and the existence of an article on one is not in itself sufficient grounds to assume that it would be acceptable on another. I see no reason to assume that an article about an offensive internet meme of little significance would stand any better chance of being accepted if recreated than it was the first time. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:50, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

As a note, Polandball is currently in 7th place out of pages that don't exist in en.wikipedia by number of Wikipedias that it is on. http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-terminator/index.php?list&lang=en&mode=tx . However, in addition to "missing" on Enwiki, it is also missing on frwiki and dewiki but present on some *very* obscure ones... If anything, I'd go the other way and WP:SALT Naraht (talk) 20:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

What is needed is for people to understand that using Wikipedia for trolling is not acceptable. Anyone who is unable to understand what "polandball" is, or why promoting it might be equivalent to trolling, should probably contribute elsewhere. Johnuniq (talk) 22:31, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Molluscm

From what country do people tend to get molluscum is it passed down to parent to child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.195.40 (talk) 17:28, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, 71.175.195.40. This help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. You might find what you are looking for in the article Molluscum. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in answering knowledge questions there, but please remember that Wikipedia does not give medical advice. benzband (talk) 17:48, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Category history

Is there a tool to track changes (articles added, articles removed) in a category? (PS. If you reply please notify me via the notifications system or my talkpage) benzband (talk) 17:40, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Why were my edits removed?

Hello,

This question pertains to a Wikipedia page about me, Jeffrey H. Norwitz. The link is Jeffrey Norwitz

Over the past month, I've been adding new information and expanding the External Links section. The last edit was yesterday Nov 25.

Today I find all of my edits have been removed.

Please explain so that I can recreate in a manner that will not be removed.

Thanks

Jeff Norwitz

The content was deleted by Huon with the summary "remove unsourced content and excessive lists of own works". A bibliography that includes not only published books but book chapters and individual articles would in my view be excessive for any subject except one who is very famous (not merely notable) indeed. Nobel Prize level, perhaps. The edit removed a large number of external links formatted with cite templates but not being used as inline citations. See WP:EL for the relevant guideline. Note that you have a very clear Conflict of interest here and ideally should not be editing the article at all, merely making suggestions on Talk:Jeffrey H. Norwitz which is where this discussion should probably be taken. DES ^(talk) 19:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Your edits added an unnecessary list of your publications and a complete run down of your career. In fact you made an encyclopedia article about yourself into an online resume and that is not what Wikipedia is for. Because it is difficult for the subject of articles to write in neutral terms, contributors are discouraged from writing about themselves. Astronaut (talk) 20:00, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Can't correct mu BIo.

I have constantly tried to up-date and correct my introductory Bio and information. Each time I correct it, it returns to the original miss information after an hour or so. How can I correct this? Kidacar (talk) 21:27, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

I assume that you are talking about Baikida Carroll? Looking at the article history, and at your user talk page, it appears that the problem is that the material you added had previously been published on another website, and hence its publication on Wikipedia is therefore a copyright violation. If you are the copyright holder, then in principle you could donate the material to Wikipedia using the process for donating copyrighted material, but in general material from the subject's website is likely to be written in too promotional a tone to meet Wikipedia's requirement for a neutral point of view. Because of the difficulty of maintaining a NPOV, there is special guidance about editing on topics where you have a conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Having looked at the reverted material, it stands zero chance of remaining in the article even if the copyright issue is resolved -- it is far too promotional in tone. Suggest that the original poster uses the article's talk page to suggest edits to correct the "misinformation".--ukexpat (talk) 21:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Democratic vs. Democrat

The NAME of the Democrat Party is Democrat, a NOUN; nominative case, not Democratic, an ADJECTIVE, generally a descriptive part of speech. Thus, Democrats should be named or appointed as Democrats, not Democratic. If they are NAMED as Democratic, they are being described, not NAMED. Democrats should be Democrat - singularly or Democrats in the plural. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:5D08:5CC9:AD25:5F32:2F15:6348 (talk) 22:17, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Standard use in sources is Democratic Party and a member of the Democratic party is described as a Democrat. The use of "Democrat Party" is viewed as a negative epithet. This use as an epithet however is notable enough for an article of its own, see Democrat Party (epithet).Naraht (talk) 22:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

WTF?

So i am trying to make an article about th URL(Battle league) and this site is makeing it hard for me to make that!

How is it that King of the Dot and Dont Flop has articles and i cant make one for URL which is bigger and more known?

Can somebody help me make this site plss? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigzero0123 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Categories for architects' designs

Since there wasn't any category for buildings designed by Benjamin Henry Latrobe, I created Category:Benjamin Henry Latrobe and began populating it: I put his article into it, along with articles about his designs. Midway through the process, I discovered that I'd overlooked the existence of Category:Benjamin Henry Latrobe buildings and structures and that it had been moved to this title from "Category:Benjamin Henry Latrobe" following a 2011 CFD. Two questions: (1) Is it generally considered desirable to provide a link from the biography to the category for his designs? (2) If so, how? I don't feel comfortable putting him into the category for his designs, since he's not a building or structure, and he didn't design himself. On the other hand, my sentiments aren't universal; Samuel Hannaford is a member of Category:Samuel Hannaford buildings. Not sure what the most common practise is for eponymous categories, whether for architects and designed-by-architect, or musicians and sung-by-musician, or authors and written-by-author, or whatever else. Nyttend (talk) 22:55, 25 November 2013 (UTC)