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::Either that or he has a good IP lookup. [[User:Tasoskessaris|Dr.K.]] ([[User talk:Tasoskessaris|talk]]) 15:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Either that or he has a good IP lookup. [[User:Tasoskessaris|Dr.K.]] ([[User talk:Tasoskessaris|talk]]) 15:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Dr. K would be right - but I do live in the USA. '''''[[User:NASCAR Fan24|<font color="#FF0000">N</font><font color="#0000FF">F</font><font color="#808000">24</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:NASCAR Fan24|radio me!]])</sup>''''' 16:00, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Dr. K would be right - but I do live in the USA. '''''[[User:NASCAR Fan24|<font color="#FF0000">N</font><font color="#0000FF">F</font><font color="#808000">24</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:NASCAR Fan24|radio me!]])</sup>''''' 16:00, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Immigration ==

I used this reference for school. Need the author's name for my bibliography . Cant find author's name. Please help

Revision as of 16:35, 9 December 2007

    Welcome—ask questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia! (Am I in the right place?)
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    December 3

    about australia

    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.110.134 (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry, but what is your question? The helpdesk is only for questions about editing; the Reference desk will help you with factual questions. NF24(radio me!) 01:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Can someone take a quick look at an article I just created?

    Hi there, I've just created my first Wikipedia article, Archipelagos (computer game) after noticing there wasn't an entry for it. Would someone like to take a quick look over it and make sure I haven't done anything stupid? I've tried to stick as as best as possible to all the Wikipedia rules that I'm aware of, but I'm still rather new at this. Also, I'm interested in creating/editing more video game articles, and I gather there's some kind of project or group for doing this - how do I go about getting involved? Thanks --Monorail Cat 01:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Nice article. Well sectioned. Needs more wikilinks and in text citations. Dr.K. 01:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for your feedback. I've wikified the terms that seemed to need it, and added citations for the review scores I quoted. --Monorail Cat 02:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Great work. Take care. Dr.K. 03:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    For the video-game project, try WikiProject_Council/Directory/Culture/Games. (Well, that link doesn't work — I probably did it wrong — but I'm sure you can find it.) Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 03:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Try Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Games. – ABCD 03:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I found them at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games thanks :) --Monorail Cat 22:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Block request

    User:Togokill‎ has been vandalizing many many times lately, has declared himself to be a sock puppet, and someone needs to deal with this. -Theanphibian (talkcontribs) 01:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You should make vandalism reports at WP:AIV, sockpuppet reports at WP:SSP, and complex abuse alerts at WP:ANI. The Help Desk isn't the best place for these. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, that's actually why I posted here, to find out where these requests go. -Theanphibian (talkcontribs) 02:43, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    web pages

    How do I or is it possible for me to create a subject like put Colette Pansy on here as a compatible subject or something on the lines of thatZuluPrincess 02:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can make a new article or category. Other than that I'm not sure what you're asking. -Theanphibian (talkcontribs) 02:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If this is about creating a new Wikipedia article:
    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 03:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Templates?

    Is there a help page for template creation. Thx. Stupid2 03:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Help:Template and Help:Advanced templates. And Wikipedia:Requested templates may also be of interest. PrimeHunter 03:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Lots more information is here: WP:EIW#Template. What kind of template do you want to create? Wikipedia has thousands already (see: Category:Template categories). We can help you search for an existing template that does what you want, or is close enough to make a good starting point for your editing. But we need to know what kind of template you need. --Teratornis 08:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    origin/ethnicity

    is there something for userpages to show ur from a specific country? I would like a little box that says that i'm from colombia with a pic of the colombian flag to the left. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlo2012 (talkcontribs) 03:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    {{User Colombia}} has a combination of map and flag. PrimeHunter 03:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And it places you in Category:Colombian Wikipedians. PrimeHunter 03:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    speedy deltion? i havent vandilised

    a mesage on my article has popped up saying i've vandilised but i haven't. i've put ((hangon)) under the mesage but what do i do now? Note that i did copy from a word document that i made so is that the problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir namu (talkcontribs) 06:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Demon rabbit? Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. Don't make pages like that anymore, okay? GlassCobra 07:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    creating article in persian language

    dear

    how i can create persian(farsi) article in wiki???

    tnx <e-mail removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.191.83.34 (talk) 08:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see the Persian Wikipedia. --Teratornis 08:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, please don't post your e-mail address here. It's a busy page and may attract spam. Raven4x4x 09:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Options for possible content dispute?

    I wanted to ask for some advice about G. Harrold Carswell. I came across it yesterday, while participating in the Military History Assessment drive. Having read the article, I reverted the addition of a large block of unformatted, unsourced text which contained (in a direct address to readers and essay-like format), the assertion that the subject had murdered someone [1]. I left a note on the talk page explaining my reasons, and that I had no problems with the content, only that it was unsourced and poorly written and formatted.

    Today, the text has been re-added (this time claiming to be from court records, but with no citation information). The final sentence is: "The one inescapable conclusion here is that only one man directly benefited from the gay man's murder: Carswell. Those who benefited indirectly are self evident." which is hardly encyclopedic. I also got a message from the editor implying that I have some underhanded motive for reverting. They've clearly got a bit of a bee in their bonnet about this, and possibly aren't entirely clear on how WP works. I've replied, but I've not sure where to go from here. It's not a BLP issue, as the person is dead. A Request for Comment (which is suggested for "general content disputes regarding biographical articles") seems heavy-handed. Normally, I'd ask for a third opinion, but I'm not sure that would be effective in this case. The text has already been removed and re-added a couple of times, and I don't want to get into some kind of edit war. I haven't really been involved in any kind of content dispute before - are there any other options to try? --Kateshortforbob 10:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Content RFCs are pretty simple and lightweight (as opposed to user conduct RFCs, which are a somewhat heavy-handed process); they're a step up from a third opinion, in that you generally get fourth, fifth and sixth opinions as well. You might want to see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution for a list of the available options for resolving disputes, especially the Step 6 section (which appears to be the stage you're at at the moment). --ais523 10:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
    Thanks for the help, Ais523. Looks like a content RFC is the way to go after all - most of the ones I've seen have been user RFCs, which are a bit intimidating. Thanks again! --Kateshortforbob 16:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    anonymous edits

    The majority of edits to Hydrogen_Economy are now coming from anonymous users, mostly from a few IPs. Short of protecting the article from unregistered users, what might be done to get people on record? PotomacFever 10:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing by unregistered users is allowed and not by itself a reason for semi-protection or other action. Is there a problem with extensive vandalism by unregistered users? PrimeHunter 12:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    There's outright vandalism, yes, about six times in the past month. The systematic changes are also a problem, in my view. I see it as twofold: First, the process: there's no talk board discussion, and issues we thought we dealt with on the talk board are now being rehashed. The latter has been pointed out by User:Mion on the article talk page. There's a little bit of talk from the anonymous users (e.g., user 199.125.109.XX seeTalk:Hydrogen_economy#Primary_purpose) but it's mainly to accuse corporations of criminality and the like. Such users don't employ user talk pages to facilitate one-on-one discussion. Second, the product: the article is becoming POV whereas before we had confined it to engineering and economics.PotomacFever 09:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can greet the anonymous editors with {{subst:Welcome-anon}} or another of the welcome templates that encourages registering an account :) — Ksero (leave me a message, things I've done) 16:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Will leaving a greeting on a talk page work if their IP is dynamic? Offhand I'd say no since there is not a unique user:talk page. See Talk:Hydrogen_economy#Primary_purpose; the same person has three IPs in one discussion. PotomacFever 09:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    A user with dynamic IP may not see a greeting, especially if it's added long after their latest edit. Page protection can be requested at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but 6 vandalisms in a month is unfortunately not much for a Wikipedia article. PrimeHunter 16:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    St Josephs College Banora Point vandalism report please act NOW

    URGENT Please remove all the information regarding St Josephs College Banora Point from Wikipedia. Due to the increasing number of false statements being made, including those statements added by SteveMcQueenBees on 27th November 2007.

    We have a great concerns regarding the easy access by people unknown to make false remarks which leave us open to legal action as has occurred in the past and is currently threatened

    Please attend to this as soon as possible.

    Regards, Paula Mcloughlin

    On behalf of the College Principal Mr Peter Mcloughlin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paula mcloughlin (talkcontribs) 10:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Paula. As you have now been told on your talk page, if you want to have an article deleted, you need to request this the articles for deletion. However, articles are not deleted purely on the basis that they are sometimes vandalized or that they have inaccuracies inserted, whether deliberately or not. The changes made by SteveMcQueenBees are no longer in the article in any case. I have added St. Joseph's College, Tweed Heads to my watchlist (and I hope a couple of others who see this will do so too) to keep an eye open for any further problems. In the meantime, removing sections of the article as it currently stands does not seem to be warranted, and your changes have been undone. Regards, BencherliteTalk 11:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Well I'm baffled. I can't find any contributions by User:SteveMcQueenBees and the St. Joseph's College, Tweed Heads article was not changed between 9 October and today's edits. Today's edits could be summarised as vandalism (including page blanking) by two Australian IP addresses and User:Paula mcloughlin. Is this request for deletion genuine? Astronaut 13:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The offending edits have been deleted now, not just reverted, hence they no longer appear in the page history (but can still be seen by admins). BencherliteTalk 14:13, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the info, but I'm still baffled. I can't see your link about deleted edits (some permission error because I'm not an admininstator) and User:SteveMcQueenBees doesn't exist, has nade no contributions, and the user logs are empty. Sorry to sound sceptical, but what's going on? Astronaut 14:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not an administrator but I found User:SteveMcQueenBeeg with 'g' at the end in [2], and User talk:SteveMcQueenBeeg shows that's the one. Unfortunately a huge number of people come to the help desk and give no name or a wrong name (usually for the article they want help with). PrimeHunter 14:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah! All becomes clear. Sometimes my skeptical side takes over :-). But, I've been here long enough to know that leaving out info often happens and I should have looked at the ListUsers function. Thanks PrimeHunter. Astronaut 15:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    conflict of interest in a WP bio

    My question is about who should/should not edit a biography WP article. I encountered an instance in which most edits were made, and are still being made, by the best man from the subject's wedding. OK? PotomacFever 11:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing by someone with a conflict of interest is discouraged. Which article are you concerned about? Astronaut 13:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks very much I really appreciate your interest. Yes, I too thought such a practice would be discouraged after reading the policy, but when I pointed out the COI I got no support. Article in question is here. The same editor who wrote most of the article was best man at the subject's wedding[3]. I've tried to add some balance to the article but it gets reverted. Perhaps more bothersome is that this user is adding links, quotes, and references to the subject's books in numerous other articles (e.g., hydrogen). PotomacFever 09:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Uluru has a table which is badly broken. Can someone fix it? -Oreo Priest 11:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It wasn't a table, it was the {{convert}} template. It didn't like the negative integer, so I wrote it out manually. It is fixed now. Woodym555 12:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem Uploading a jpg Image

    I am still trying to upload an image to improve the Wiki article on C.W. Leadbeater, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Webster_Leadbeater. Presuming this 1914 photograph is in the public domain, my source file is www.spiritwritings.com/cwleadbeater.jpg. The Wikimedia Commons file name I tried to give it was CWLeadbeater.jpg. I keyed in the source and licence information, then clicked on Upload File, but nothing happened. I went back to Edit the Wiki article page, keyed in "[[Image:wiki.pngCWLeadbeater.jpg|thumbnail|right|Charles Webster Leadbeater in 1914]]"

    File:Wiki.pngCWLeadbeater.jpg
    Charles Webster Leadbeater in 1914

    , clicked on Show Preview, but no image came up, only a repeat upload screen with the same null result. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RAmesbury (talkcontribs)

    Perhaps try again without a "." after Wiki - it probably makes the software think that the rest is a file extension! BencherliteTalk 12:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you downloading it to your hard disk before uploading? You can include the URL source www.spiritwritings.com/cwleadbeater.jpg in the summary field. PrimeHunter 12:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • You should've entered: "[[Image:CWLeadbeater.jpg|thumbnail|right|Charles Webster Leadbeater in 1914]]" without the "wiki.png" inserted. I think the upload itself failed because you wanted to upload the file from another website rather than your own harddrive. Try dowloading the image and then uploading it with the browse button. - 131.211.161.119 14:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sheepskin

    78.145.121.89 12:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC) I have a sheepskin,bought abroad,how can I get rid of the sheepy smell & also soften the leather back?[reply]

    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter 12:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    computer networking

    Godfrey2 14:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)advantages of computer networking in learning institutions[reply]

    This help desk is for questions regarding using Wikipedia. For general knowledge and research type questions, please see the reference desk. Dismas|(talk) 14:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Contacting fellow contributors

    Hi There,

    I am a member of wikipedia. It is great and I also donate money!

    Quick question: Is there a way to contact a fellow contributor if I have the cont's wiki name?

    Thanks,

    Brendan

    (email removed to protect you from spam)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmcclean1 (talkcontribs) 14:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Answered on User talk:Bmcclean1, so as to give an example at the same time as answering the question. --ais523 14:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

    Creating maps

    How can I create a world map that is colored to my specifications? For instance, something like this one [4] but with my own colors per country. -- CoolGuy 15:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Use an image editor. It's best to use SVG files for maps, so you could use a program like Adobe Illustrator or Inkscape. See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Blank_SVG_maps_of_the_world for images you can start from to change the color of countries on. —Random832 16:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    __NOEDITSECTION__

    I have discovered that there seems to be no "antidote" to the "__NOEDITSECTION__" magic word. ("__EDITSECTION__" does not work). On my user talk page I wish to disable the "edit" button from showing next to the very first section, but then turn display on again for subsequent sections. Any help or advice gratefully received! Alice.S 15:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

    I don't believe this is possible. The magic words turn them all off or all on, there's no middle ground. Sorry. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that's the problem. I was hoping that some kind and knowledgeable HTML wizard would come galloping to my rescue with suitable code. Please tell me on my talk page if there is a solution? Alice.S 19:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
    • If you fake the section heading in your first section with size, bolding and all that of the font, you won't need to make an actual section, which means there won't be an edit link there either. - 131.211.161.123 13:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And it also won't be in the table of contents. PrimeHunter 16:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem Uploading Picture to Wiki Article

    I am still trying to upload a public domain photo from www.spiritwriting.com/cwleadbeater.jpg to Wiki article en.wikipedia.org/Charles_Webster_Leadbeater. I tried downloading this first to my hard drive, as suggested, but I could not save it to My Pictures (Windows XP)in jpg format. On My Pictures the Paste icon is not enabled to save it in jpg. I can download and save it to a Word file but then I would lose the jpg format when I try to save it. How do I down load this image without loosing its jpg format so I can upload it to Wikimedia Commons, and from there to the article? RAmesbury 16:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That site is not working for me, but my guess is that if you cannot save the image that's probably because the site's webmaster hasn't enabled this, which means that he doesn't want the picture to be taken from his site. If the image really REALLY is in the public domain you can always take a screenshot, paste in paint, cut, save as .jpg, upload at wiki. -Yamanbaiia 16:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Please give some details. What is a screenshot? And how does one "paste and paint?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by RAmesbury (talkcontribs) 18:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See:
    --Teratornis 23:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wiktionary =spell-check dictionary?

    Can Wiktionary be used to create a list of words to use as a spell-check dictionary? --Seans Potato Business 17:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You'd be better off asking at Wiktionary, but as with Wikipedia, Wiktionary shouldn't be regarded as 100% accurate 100% of the time, and may not be complete. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    uss heritage(ap-54)

    72.90.55.226 18:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)photo[reply]

    Did you have a question? Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    uss heritage(ap-54)

    help me photos?joe massey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.90.55.226 (talk) 18:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    We don't appear to have an article on the USS Heritage, however if you explain your question more clearly at the Reference desk, they may be able to assist you. The Help Desk is here to help you use Wikipedia, not search for information or photos. Searching the Wikimedia Commons may also produce some photos for you. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Update: We do have a short article on the SS Conte Biancamano, which was renamed as the USS Hermitage AP-54 in World War II. There are no images on the page. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    Problem Downloading to Upload to a Wiki Article

    I am still trying to upload a public domain photo from www.spiritwritings.com/cwleadbeater.jpg to Wiki article en.wikipedia.org/Charles_Webster_Leadbeater. I tried downloading this first to my hard drive, as suggested, but I could not save it to My Pictures (Windows XP)in jpg format. On My Pictures the Paste icon is not enabled to save it in jpg. I can download and save it to a Word file but then I would lose the jpg format when I try to save it. How do I down load this image without loosing its jpg format so I can upload it to Wikimedia Commons, and from there to the article? RAmesbury 16:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That site is not working for me, but my guess is that if you cannot save the image that's probably because the site's webmaster hasn't enabled this, which means that he doesn't want the picture to be taken from his site. If the image really REALLY is in the public domain you can always take a screenshot, paste in paint, cut, save as .jpg, upload at wiki. -Yamanbaiia 16:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The site is working now. I just tried it. Please give some details. What is a screenshot? And how does one "paste and paint?" RAmesbury 19:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • Yamanbaiia said "paste in paint"; (s)he was referring to Microsoft Paint a drawing program. You can use the Prt Scr button on your keyboard to make the computer store (copy) the image on the screen on the clipboard and then use the paste command in the edit menu of any drawing program. You can use the drawing program, to remove unused space and save the actual image. - Mgm|(talk) 20:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've downloaded the image and emailed RAmesbury asking for their email, so I can send it to them. - Mgm|(talk) 20:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    multilingual

    Hi!

    2 quick question that I can't find replies to:

    a) Am I only logged in as a user in ONE language???

    b) Should I put "all languages" on the same page or should I log in to different languages?

    Thanks a million for help!

    Natalia Kim email address removed to protect your privacy

    or Nataliakim (login in Spanish) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.210.12.94 (talk) 19:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    At present, each Wikipedia is separate. You have a separate identity with each one, and must sign in separately to each one. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:54, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Template problem with NJSchoolDistrict

    I had created Template:NJSchoolDistrict, which was intended to display information about school districts in New Jersey. It works great (for the most part), but there are some stray numbers that appear in both the table and the body of the article. This can be best seen at Teaneck Public Schools. I have all of the data available via download to add to the other 600+ school districts in the state, but I have never been able to address the problem. Can anyone help with this one? Alansohn 19:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. You were missing some <td> tags in a few places. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 20:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    History may have gotten detached from articles during series of moves

    ((brought over from my talk page)) ...in the shifting article names for List of organizations for women writers, somehow the history is now attached to List of organizations for female writers, and the talk page is with women, or maybe I've got it backwards, but I think you get my drift. There is confusion in them thar articles. O great and powerful administrator[s], help? --Lquilter 19:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Matthew Proctor moved List of organizations for women writers to List of organizations for female writers. Portia1780 later made a cut-and-paste move back to List of organizations for women writers. I see no sign any of them ever had a talk page. Cut-and-paste moves are bad because the history is not kept. You can request a fix at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. It's similar to an entry already there about List of female writers and List of women writers. PrimeHunter 00:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I have made the request at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen#New requests. PrimeHunter 16:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Radio Format Question

    76.118.247.91 19:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • Suppose there's a CHR/Hot AC hybrid Pop radio station that has an extremely extensive playlist. Like, suppose such an eccentric format were reported in the radio station's website. How would one label the format in the info-box at the top right of the page? For example, if the station included, at random at any time, any of the Billboard 200 hits from all years of the 1990s through the present but also featured the more recent songs but than also did album cuts from the currently-popular Pop artists? Songs that standard CHR or Hot AC stations don't play. Suppose this was stated in the station's website? How would this wacky format be labeled on the info-box at the top of the page? For one thing, this does not sound like "Top 40". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.118.247.91 (talkcontribs)
    I'd probably just tag it "eclectic: see article"! --Orange Mike | Talk 20:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    BetacommandBot - What now?

    BetacommandBot hit some images for which I had given insufficient fair-use rationales. What now? I've started to change the rationales to be in compliance with Wiki standards. Do I delete the "disputed fair use" template? Will the image page be revisited by a human before this bot deletes the image? Is there anyway to trigger a review to get further comment on the updated fair-use rationale? Is there a human editor to discuss these things with or are we at the mercy of bots? Thanks in advance. Vantelimus 20:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I believe that free use, not fair use, is appropriate for DYK hooks (did you know). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:C-H_Laverdiere.jpg does not indicate if copyright is still valid in the United States, where WP servers are located. Even if the photo is from the 1800's, if it was first published after 1923, it could be still copyrighted. Even if the Canadian copyright is expired, the US one may not be. Please advice or comment.

    In the interim, I've kept the DYK hook (which will be on the main page soon) but temporarily removed the photo. I've notified the article author, too. Archtransit 20:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Trying to tag an un-notable page

    I keep tagging the page of an unsigned band that I believe to be un-notable. However, the page's creator keeps simply deleting the tag. What should be done in this instance?

    For reference, the page is The Idlers (band) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petemella (talkcontribs) 20:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I took a look at the article, and I agree that it doesn't seem to be notable, so I'm starting an AfD discussion on it. This should resolve the issue one way or another. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 21:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Is this OR?

    I found 3 sources of equally high crediblitiy for an article, and each conflicts with the others. But I cannot find a source pointing out the confliction. Is it original research to say "Sources conflict on this subject, one says this, one says that and one says this"? Cigraphix 18:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    As long as you provide the sources, I don't think a simple statement that sources conflict is OR. Going any further into it than stating this fact could be OR, though. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 21:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    As long as you cite what each source says, you should be fine. For example, "Sources conflict on this subject; source a says viewpoint 1[cite], whereas source b says viewpoint 2[cite]". Wait a bit longer, as I'm not 100% on this, and I wouldn't want you to take my advice just to see it contradicted a few minutes later.
    (After edit conflict) Seems I'm saying the same thing as Pyro above. Just don't go any further and you should be fine. Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflicts) It depends, for example on how obvious the conflict is. Wikipedia:Neutral point of view allows to mention different claims in a neutral way but they don't necessarily have to be called "conflicting". What is the article and what do the sources say? PrimeHunter 21:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    It is a characters' speed comparison: two starring characters from the same brand, both rivals to each other, each of the sources are from the company that makes them. There are also more sources that can be used: One source says one character is faster, two sources say the other character is faster, most others (more than three) say they are equal. The conflict is obvious. Cigraphix 21:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd advise more or less what Pyro and Hersfold do: explicitly saying, "DC has published contradictory assertions at different times: some that say The Flash is faster; that say Superman is faster; and that say you can't tell; but of course, the past and present may be retconned at any time"; with cites for each assertion. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    More context is needed to judge it; like the article and what exactly the sources said where. I don't even know whether the sources are official story lines or somebody elses claims. There are often apparent inconsistencies in long-running fictional works, especially a franchise without a single author like Sonic the Hedgehog. Sometimes a more or less sensible explanation is given later (and a character may not have a fixed speed so it may not be conflicting if two characters shift lead in races). The word "conflict" hints somebody is wrong and I would be careful with using it. PrimeHunter 23:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    They look like the same questions, but it says "November 25". All but the last question apparently were asked on November 19.

    I was getting ready to ask a question about that last November 25 question. No one answered it, so I did. So the question is how to let the person know I did.Vchimpanzee 21:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The date heading in the first section of Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 November 19 was changed in [5] with no reason. I have changed it back. Was that the problem? If you answer an archived question after 8 days like in [6] then I recommend posting to the users talk page instead. PrimeHunter 23:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wiki Etiquette

    Thanks folks. I finally managed to upload that jpg web photo of CW Leadbeater to en.wikipedia.org/Charles_Webster_Leadbeater, although I had to ask a Microsoft technician how to do it by using Paint. This photo is public domain so don't anyone delete it. Now that I can move on to text editing, is there a discussion page on which editors of each Wiki article can communicate with each other. I would like to give notice that I intend to make certain changes to improve the text to invite opinions about same before doing so as a courtesy to the other people who have contributed to this article. Thanks again. RAmesbury 21:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Such discussion would go on at Talk:Charles Webster Leadbeater. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing the article "methanol economy"

    I tried to edit the first paragraph of the article concerning the "methanol economy". When I click on the first edit button on the page it goes to "synthesis" which is the second paragraph in the article. How can I edit the first paragraph?

    Thank you in Advance for your help —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goepy (talkcontribs) 22:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Click the "edit this page" tab at the top. The first part is called the lead or section 0. PrimeHunter 23:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    This may also be of interest: WP:SECT#Editing_before_the_first_section --Kudret abiTalk 22:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing with mathematical formulas

    I did try to edit following an invitation (Wave Equation). My attempt brought up garbige on the preview. What is the math language? What are the rules?

    AltSci 22:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It's a subset of TeX, with some extensions. See Help:Displaying a formula. PrimeHunter 23:38, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikitable formatting

    I want to drop a whole bunch of data from Microsoft Excel into a wikitable. However, as I understand wikitables between each Excel row I must add a line with "|-". Is there a combination of characters that could be used on a single line to preceed my data to substitute for the syntax which requires a separate line with these characters?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Maybe Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content from other formats to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format is of help. I haven't tried it. PrimeHunter 23:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Why is there a padlock?

    I'm new to this and have just created the page The Gift of Fear as an attempt to familiarize myself with Wikipedia formatting. However, after adding some links to my source a padlock has appeared next to the link. What is this, and is it bad? I apologize if this is common knowledge or if I have made a mistake; I have looked through all of the tutorials I could find and was unable to find any information about this. Also, if anyone happens to spot any other errors in the page, if you could explain why they are errors to me--as opposed to merely correcting them--so I can learn how this system better works I would be appreciative. I am not sure if I will be able to find my back here to check to see if anyone has commented on this file, my email address is ------ and I would appreciate any mentoring the community feels inclined to offer. Thanks. Jacob Hodgen 23:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Jacob. I have removed your email address to avoid you being hit by spam. The padlock symbol denotes that the web address is to a secure connection (see the article at https). There's nothing to worry about. I don't have time to look at the rest of the page for suggestions, I'm afraid, but hopefully somebody else will soon. Regards, BencherliteTalk 23:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi there Jacob! I took a look at the article. The only problem that I can see is the distinct lack of references. Other than that, good work on your first Wikipedia article! NF24(radio me!) 23:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the help and suggestions. I will make sure to include more sources within the next few days. Jacob Hodgen 00:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    USERSUBPAGE

    How do I create a usersubpage of a specific article?Kitty53 23:36, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can create a subpage within your user space by adding "/subpage" to the end of your user page's URL - in your case, User:Kitty53/subpage. Subpages are disabled in the main article subpage, so you can't create one there. WP:SUBPAGE has more information for you. Hersfold (t/a/c) 23:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Can I create one myself?Kitty53 00:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, just choose a name and create it like any other page. If it's later moved to a mainspace article then it doesn't need to have the same name. PrimeHunter 00:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can keep track of your user subpages with: Special:Prefixindex/User:Kitty53. You may wish to add that link to your user page. --Teratornis (talk) 08:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    December 4

    Wikitable formatting

    I want to drop a whole bunch of data from Microsoft Excel into a wikitable. However, as I understand wikitables between each Excel row I must add a line with "|-". Is there a combination of characters that could be used on a single line to preceed my data to substitute for the syntax which requires a separate line with these characters?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Your question has been answered above. Please check for answers before posting a new question. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:32, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    My screen froze. I could not see the reply. Thanks. I have found what I need.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 01:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How would you reference this?

    I am writing a paper on Autism and dont know the author or editor. Please HELP!!

    The title is Autism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.223.184 (talk) 01:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    To be honest, I know that some teachers/professors have not allowed students to use Wikipedia as a source for projects/essays because they consider Wikipedia to be unreliable, but if it's Ok then by all means, US IT! :) To reference it, I suggest you just have a Bibliography that has the URl of the page. ~ Bella Swan 01:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia and the result [7] of clicking "Cite this article" in the toolbox at Autism. PrimeHunter 01:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I would NOT use Wikipedia as a source. I might look at the references in the article as a starting point to reesearch the subject. Congolese (talk) 04:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I would; using common sense as a guide. People think that Wikipedia is not reliable because not all statements are cited in all articles. But if the statements within an article are cited and you can verify the claims made in an article by checking the citations then by definition there is no problem. Dr.K. (talk) 05:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    One major issue that my past professors have brought up is that Wikipedia articles can change. Your cited article might espouse a totally different point of view when someone checks it, and it may show different facts or data. When you cite something, it should be the same when someone goes back to check on your citation. --Sowelu (talk) 06:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Facts supported by in text citations are immune to that. It works like this: You see a sentence. The sentence at the end has a superscript in square brackets with a number. Click on the number and you get the citation at the end of the article. Click on the citation and you go to the website where the fact verification resides. I would say this system is pretty close to bulletproof. Now if you come back and you don't see the same sentence, someone took it out. Check history and see any difference in edits between versions. If a vandal took it out bring it back in. If not someone else will. Citation supported facts are very difficult to be personal POV of an editor because the citation mechanism provides instant verification through an external source. How many books can do this for you? Dr.K. (talk) 16:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Rashad Jeanty

    Someone vandalised this page...Rashad Jeanty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.145.133 (talk) 01:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I guess you refer to the alleged name "McCooter" in [8]. Thanks, I have removed it. PrimeHunter 02:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    payment for pictures

    Hello!

    We heard on the radio today that you will begin paying $40 for pictures that are added to wikipedia. Is this true? Does this include photographs? How do we start contributing? We are excited and ready to go! Thanks...

    01:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.26.2 (talk)

    This is false. On which radio station did you hear that? PrimeHunter 01:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    At least I assume it's false. I haven't heard it and would be surprised if it's true (unless perhaps if it's a bounty in special cases). PrimeHunter 01:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    There is the Philip Greenspun illustration project over at meta, where there has been a large donation which will be used to reward people who supply requested diagrams. It's still in the stage of working out which diagrams are needed, though. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Noam Cohen wrote a piece for the New York Times yesterday, I think, but it was quite clear that the fund is only for technical illustrations, that specific needed illustrations will be requested, and that the illustrator will be selected. No one will be able to collect $40 just for slapping a random photo they took on Wikipedia. Natalie (talk) 00:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Mars dark Chocolate Bars

    I have coupons for .50 cents off of your new 4 pack bars. I cannot find them NOWHERE. Where can I find them soon my coupon will be no good good till Dec31 07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.17.170 (talk) 02:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Something tells me you're in the wrong place. This is Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia; more specifically, this is the help desk, a place for asking questions about the aforementioned encyclopedia. How one could confuse an encyclopedia with a store cashier is beyond me. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 02:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The Wikipedia help desk frequently gets questions from people who appear to think it is the help desk for one of the companies or organizations there is an article about. Wikipedia has a high PageRank and is often the first Google search result. PrimeHunter 03:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    For example, Mars Bar is the first Google result for "Mars bar" (and Deep-fried Mars Bar is the second). PrimeHunter 03:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I wonder if MediaWiki could detect when an unregistered user has browsed in from a search engine results page, and display a banner above the page indicating that Wikipedia is not affiliated with the subject of the article? With exceptions for the few articles that Wikipedia actually does relate to (e.g., Wikipedia, MediaWiki, Wikimedia Foundation, Jimmy Wales, etc.). That may be overkill, but we get a fairly steady number of bewildered users who find their way to the Help desk. One supposes the ones who reach here are but a fraction of those confused by Wikipedia's recent dominance of search engine results. --Teratornis (talk) 08:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    4 related questions on a first article

    I found the tutorials particularly unhelpful for a first article. There is no step-by-step instructions [i.e., first you do X, then Y, etc., and then when you have completed the article, you do Z to post it], or if there are, I couldn't find them. In any case, 1) I haven't figured out technical requirements for getting the title at the top of the page and in the right sized font [I have the title: "Uniformity and Jurisdiction in U.S. Federal Court Tax Decisions"], 2) I haven't figured out how to save material I've added [I lost 3 or more hours of work this afternoon]; hitting the save button at the bottom of the page next to the preview button doesn't seem to do it; 3) I haven't figured out what the last step is to actually post a completed article, and 4) at the top of the page, I've typed [[/ and then an identifier for the article, then 2 more brackets, but facing left. Does this in any way interfere with saving or posting the article? I could use some help on this since I'm up against a deadline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wdb35 (talkcontribs) 03:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    First, never click save for any lengthy text until you have copied by highlighting the text and clicking copy (cntrl+C on many browsers) and ideally, to an offline document (you'd probably already figured that out). When you keep a page open for a long period of time it is not uncommon that you will have a "session data loss" message and it won't be able to save. If this happens, you can simply open up the document afresh (this time having saved your hard work somewhere else) and post it again. You might find the Wikipedia:Article wizard of help with a step-by-step approach. The title of an article is placed automatically by the software once saved. Another words, you don't actually type it; whatever name you gave the article will be its properly formatted name at the top. When you start the article, you just launch right into the text, for example: "'''Albert Einstein''' is a famous scientist..." (The reason Albert Einstein is surrounded by three apostrophes is that it is our style to boldface the first mention of an article's subject and our wiki markup translates those apostropes to boldface). I'm not sure of your reason for typing "[[/" at the top but no, it shouldn't interfere with saving. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe your work was saved at User:Wdb35 but I don't know whether that is it. 1) The title at the top of a page is automatically made by the software and is the name the page was saved under. 2) The save button next to the preview button is the right button to save a page. Occasionally the save doesn't work due to some problem which may or may not be Wikipedia's fault (it could be your browser, Internet connection and other things). If you have made long work then I recommend copying the text to an external text editor before saving. 3) Post an article by saving it at the name you want the article to have. You can for example click Uniformity and jurisdiction in U.S. federal court tax decisions (Wikipedia doesn't use upper case in article titles) and write an article there. 4) What you wrote at the top of the page does not interfere with saving (but I don't see a reason to write it). The rest is a standard reply to people who ask here how to make a new article:
    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 03:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Aha. I see you have created the article on your userpage, rather than in the mainspace and that's why you couldn't get the proper title. I have taken the liberty of moving it to the mainspace. It is at Uniformity and jurisdiction in U.S. federal court tax decisions. I'll help out a bit more with the formatting, categories and the like.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature problems

    I think I'm using the correct tags and all, but my signature link does not seem to be working: Sinclair talk/contribs

    Did I do something wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hostile Amish (talkcontribs) 04:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks right to me. What do you think is not working? PrimeHunter 04:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image tagged for deletion

    Hello again Helpdeskers

    I just uploaded the image image:Black_Lamp_Atari_ST_screenshot.png for an article (Black Lamp) I created. It's a screenshot of the game in question. As soon as I uploaded it, it got tagged for deletion by a bot. The reason given was 'no fair use rationale'. When I uploaded it, I selected "non free/screenshot" as the category for it, which I thought was enough, but I've since learned that doesn't count as a fair use rationale - I have to actually write one as well. That's fine, I don't have a problem with that.. I've since gone to the image page, and added a fair use rationale. My question is twofold - firstly, did I do the fair use rationale correctly? I put it in the 'summary' section of the image page, is that where it should be? and secondly, having provided a rationale, is there anything else I have to do to prevent the image being deleted, or will the deletion tag be removed by someone else upon review?

    Thanks, --Monorail Cat 04:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Place the fair use rationale in its own section with the article name in the section heading like the examples. Then you can remove the tag. PrimeHunter 05:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Footnote problem

    Resolved

    VivioFateFan (Talk, Sandbox) 02:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    In the page, Kuala Lumpur, under footnote number 19, the {{cite news}} resulted in a redlinked date. How do i bluelink the date? kawaputratorque 04:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Nevermind. I've found the answer. kawaputratorque 04:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    accuracy and security

    i've noticed some incomplete information about some high profile individuals who engaged in illegal activities which were glossed over in the review due to their popularity. i believe more details of their crimes, or the defendants links - would paint a well balanced picture, but in light of the nature of the individuals i would be hesitant to input any information myself as i am not clear on just how private the editor's information is. how private is input? thx.

    If you have an account, a very restrict group of people have access to your information (IP, location). This people are trusted users and don't check your information unless it's strictly necessary. I also advice you that anything you add on this criminals pages is well sourced (see WP:CITE), because Wikipedia has a strict policy when it comes to information about living people. -Yamanbaiia 10:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that everybody can find your chosen user name in the page history and see all other edits made by that account, except edits to deleted pages (and rare oversighted edits). If you are not logged in then everybody can see your IP address in the page history and this can sometimes be used to identify you. See also Wikipedia:Privacy. PrimeHunter 15:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    hotmail account loding

    want to change my hotmail pass now but when i clicked to account summary, settings or services etc. it doesnt open, i can see only a turning ball and loading article, so how can i solve this problem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.81.218.67 (talk) 06:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Try reloading the page and/or waiting a few minutes. Xiong Chiamiov :: contact :: 07:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Protection (2)

    Why protect a user talk page from every non-administrator, when you're meaning to protect it from (a) particular user(s)? 124.176.152.82 20:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    There's no way to protect a user talk page against use by only that user. In the case of a user who is autoconfirmed, full protection is the only way to prevent abuse. WODUP 08:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Fully protected talk pages sometimes happen when a banned user is very disruptive on their own talk page, Most likely the talk page you came across is semi-protected, meaning that only account holder that are more then a few days old (admin or not) can edit it, this is done as a result of excessive vandalism on their talk page, you will see such request from time to time @ WP:RPP. ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 17:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    More detailed answer: I see what you are getting at, why not just ban the one disruptive editor rather then protect the page. well in the case of a single/very few disruptive editor(s) of another editor's User talk page a temp or long term block is what occurs, in other cases many good faith editors may find their talk pages attacked repeatedly by many different disruptive editors, an example of this is someone who is often on vandalism patrol that may find their user page/talk page excessively vandalize and need page protection for a period of time.▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 17:50, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    how do you search for a specific topic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.35.90 (talk) 12:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Indicating coordinates

    Hi!
    I am no specialist for sure and have a lot of problems to understand how some things work when editing…
    Just one, to begin with: How can we add coordinates to an article? I looked hard, but could not find the corresponding codes or template. These are two examples: The Milton Keynes Central railway station has its coordinates indicated in the upper right corner, but neither Bedford Midland nor the Bedford St Johns stations, where this could be useful when not knowing the place.
    Thanks forward for your help. — Lemon Blue 13:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    In the Milton Keynes article the coordinates are provided by the template listed in the external links area which looks like this: {{Geolinks-UK-buildingscale|52.0347|-0.773}}. To explore such templates, see Category:Geolinks templates. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    "search engine".

    Ineed A definition of the term "search engine". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.245.217 (talk) 13:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just to the left of the screen is a search field. If you had typed "search engine" into that you would have found Search engine, our encyclopedia article on that topic. We also have a sister site which is a dictionary, called Wiktionary. They have a definition of search engine: see here--Fuhghettaboutit 13:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    A shared table?

    I dont know the terminology, but there is a table that is at the bottom of many entries in a subject, I cannot seem to edit it. It doesnt seem to be part of the entries but must be linked from somewhere else, how do I find out about it? I wanted to correct an item on the table. It is the table that is at the bottom of the entry for Indexed Grammar.

    Syroph 13:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You might see the following at the bottom of the page: {{Formal languages and grammars}}. This is a transclusion of the template Template:Formal languages and grammars, which is what you would want to edit. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    See more about templates at Help:Template. When you click "edit this page" at Indexed grammar, the bottom of the page displays transcluded templates and one of them is Template:Formal languages and grammars. As x42bn6 wrote, the bottom of the edit box contains {{Formal languages and grammars}} which shows where the template is used. PrimeHunter 15:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Speedy delete

    What speedy delete tags should I use for this page? The user who was using these pages has been merged into the correct spelling of the page found here.--Endless Dan 15:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Seems it was already deleted as an empty category (CSD C1). Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:08, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Done it now. You could use C1 or C2 as it was a typo. Specific guidelines can be found here. It has been deleted now, (by me). Woodym555 15:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you all for your help :-) --Endless Dan 15:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    A small follow-up. When I look at Category:Latino/Hispanic Wikipedians and click the [+] subcategories button, why does our subcategory go on seemingly forever withthe same thing while the others are properly organized. Was there an error in our category coding?--Endless Dan 15:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I have fixed it now. It was the userbox. Anypage that it is on will be put into the Ecuadorian category, so it was self-categorising. As such it is like two mirrors being placed facing each other; they will keep reflecting off each other ad infinitum. So, I swapped the userbox with the code to fix the problem. Woodym555 15:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I saw, thank you very much! --Endless Dan 15:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I fixed it in another way that will change the userbox display if the source is edited: [9]. Only some templates have a parameter to allow this. PrimeHunter 15:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks. Help Desk rules! --Endless Dan 15:32, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See more about this method at User:Willscrlt/UBX/categories. PrimeHunter 15:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, that method seems more effective than mine! :) I don't use UBX that much! Thanks PrimeHunter. Woodym555 15:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I have a kua-shtee-ahn.

    I want to know exactly how do you add an article, or subject. And is this like Urban Dictionary? (: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.185.67.19 (talk) 16:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know how Urban Dictionary works. I assume kua-shtee-ahn means question.
    You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 16:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And while there are some similarities between Wikipedia and Urban Dictionary, such as the fact that all content is user-generated, there are significant differences, particularly (a) Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and UD is a dictionary, and (b) Wikipedia articles must be backed by reliable sources or they face deletion, whereas on UD anyone can make anything up and the worst that can happen is people give it a few thumbs down. Neologisms and protologisms abound on UD, but on Wikipedia you'll find that most articles on neologisms get nominated for deletion very quickly. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The Salvation Army - Roblin Lake Camp

    ÷67.71.199.202 16:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)Roblin Lake Camp is now closed. How do we remove it from this website, or at least list that it is now closed?[reply]

    please contact me at (phone number removed)

    Thanks

    Joann Harry

    I found a source [10] and added the information to Roblin Lake Camp in [11]. PrimeHunter 17:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I input info on my band?

    How do I input info on my band? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uncensoredaggression (talkcontribs) 16:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know your band but note that most bands do not satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (music) and should not have an article (which will likely be deleted if it's created anyway).
    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 17:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Is this still to be considered original research?

    Hi I have a query regarding original research and referencing. There is a particular wikipedia article that contains information about an certain event that has been sourced from reputable third party publications yet is in fact incorrect. The event in question relates to activities undertaken by myself in collaboration with two other individuals in the year 2000. The article does not mention me by name, or the other two individuals, and we do not wish it to, however the incident in question was rather an obscure one that might be considered to be merely a footnote to a much larger event which is the subject of the article and given the obscurity of the event all reports in the media at the time were inaccurate in how they described the specifics of the case. i have searched in vain for an accurate report in the media but have been unable to find a single one, so as a last resort i have requested documents from the Australian Federal Police under the Freedom of Information Act which contain all pertinent details and which give an accurate rendering of the event. How do i reference this source material, given that it has not been published in the public domain? I have the feeling that this might be considered original research, yet these documents come from an unimpeachable source and contain the actual facts whereas the wikipedia article does not, and it seems ridiculous that false information should be considered true simply because it comes from a published source. Is there any way in which these documents may be uploaded to this site to support any changes i might make to the article in question? I would like to add also that my desire to change the information has nothing to do with personal bias on my part, it merely my desire to see an event with which i am more than well acquainted being described accurately. Thank you in advance for your response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by C4A6 (talkcontribs) 18:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The documents would have to see publication in a reliable source, such as a local newspaper or reputable news website. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You may also want to ask @ the Reliable sources Noticeboard▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 18:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Disputed Information

    How is disputed information indicated in the text? Is it some type of symbol?

    198.67.7.2 18:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    What exactly do you mean by "disputed"? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You could use {{POV-statement}} for disputes over neutrality or maybe even some larger ones which you can use for the general page or just sections. — Rudget contributions 16:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Disputed Information Clarification

    If someone disagree's with the information you write, what does thier response look like on the Wiki Page? Is it a symbol, red text, bracketed etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.67.7.2 (talk) 18:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you talking about disagreeing with what is written in a article or on the talk page with another editor?, if it is the written content of an article you may see the template {{Disputed}} that say "The factual accuracy of this article is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page." in of order for the editor disputing the information to make their case in a civil way. if it's an editor see: Dispute resolution, In cases policy concerns there are other step that you can take, such in case of Bio violations which you can read here WP:BLP ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 19:23, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:Dispute templates. PrimeHunter 19:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Girl Guides of Canada

    I would like to make changes to entries for Girl Guides of Canada. some of the material that is posted is outdated and we would like to remove the links to Scouting.

    I made up-to-date changes, but they were changed back.

    How do I go about supplying up-to-date and correct info about our organisation?

    Lori Blinn Marketing Co-ordinator Marketing & Strategic Alliances Girl Guides of Canada ~ Guides du Canada —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lblinn (talkcontribs)

    I'm not sure why your edit was reverted; you should talk to the person who reverted you (look in the page history by clicking on the "history" tab at the top of the page) on their talk page or, better yet, the article's talk page. Hopefully the two of you can figure out why you disagree and come to a compromise. Let me know on my talk page if you need any help. Peace, delldot talk 20:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC) (I removed your contact info so you don't get loads of spam)[reply]
    Provide references. Guiding is part of Scouting. Also since you're representing GGOC, see WP:COI. Also note your contact info and the edit in the article where you said you changed it on behalf of GGOC prove you're representing an org and you said "we" not "I".RlevseTalk —Preceding comment was added at 20:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Dear Lblinn, regarding the edits you have proceeded to make to Girl Guides of Canada, I have removed them, because you copied word-for-word from http://www.girlguides.ca/ and its subpages, http://www.girlguides.ca/default1.asp?id=1214, http://www.girlguides.ca/default1.asp?id=1215, etc. Wikipedia has a very strict copyright policy, and for legal reasons, information can not be copied and pasted into articles. Other pages can be used as a source for information, but not as a source for sentences, paragraphs, or sections. The information must be summarized and paraphrased, and then properly cited with reliable sources for verification. These are some of the core pilars of Wikipedia, and I request that you review them all, as they are the foundation of the project. Additionally, please take note of the above mentioned conflict of interest guideline. I have given you additional information on your talk page. Cheers, ArielGold 20:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    WGXL FM Ownership Switch

    76.118.247.91 20:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • I believe Clear Channel Radio has divested WGXL FM in Lebanon, New Hampshire. Therefore, appropriate changes will need to be made to the article. I'm not very crafty at Wikipedia article writing; therefore, my ability to appropriately cite a source that proves this latest update might be shaky. So, please, any of you pro Wiki editors out there...I am just making you aware of this change. This is an unsigned comment.

    how to create a new page

    i wanted to post an article on wikipedia, so i joined wikipedia but i am unable to find a link on how to create a new page or new article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveishear (talkcontribs) 21:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. NF24(radio me!) 21:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Question

    Dear Wiki,

    I uploaded a file and a summary but I can't find it, where do I go to locate it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DXT311 (talkcontribs) 21:43, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Your contributions should be a starting point, but it seems you don't have any. I have checked your deleted contributions and they are empty as well. Did you use a different account. What exactly was the file? Woodym555 (talk) 21:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Wild guess: Could it be Image:Monique.JPG uploaded from another account? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Dates of articles

    How do you find the date of an article posted on Wikipedia? I asked FAQ and nothing related to it came up. 72.228.11.138 (talk) 22:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The history tab (at the top of the screen) will give you a list of dates and times of the edits to the article. The first edit (when the page was added) can be found by clicking the "earliest 50" link. Great question! Cheers, --TeaDrinker (talk) 22:07, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec)If you want to cite Wikipedia, go to Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia or Special:Cite. Otherwise, you can click on "history" of the article then click "Earliest" at the top of the history page and scroll to the bottom. NF24(radio me!) 22:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Or, to save a click, just look at the bottom of the page, where it says: "This page was last modified....." --barneca (talk) 22:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Since articles are constantly edited, you want to use the "Cite this article" link on the left of the screen. Perhaps in combination with a permanent link so whoever follows the link you give will read the same article. It would be incorrect to attribute the entire article to one author or time/date. - Mgm|(talk) 23:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Cold Chills page

    Hello, I'm trying to write a page on Cold Chills. would anyone know where I could find some info or sources. Thanks--DatDoo (talk) 23:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Try the reference desk or do a Google search for it. That should give you a good starting point. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 23:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree try Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science I heard many thing called Chills before Rigor (medicine) known as The Chills., Goose bumps, night sweats, you may want to ask them if there a specific medical term for Cold Chills or if it is something that describes a whole host of different conditions, cheers. ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 01:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    On Wikipedia we use a strange convention for letter case in titles, so the article should actually be Cold chills. See: WP:TITLE#Lowercase second and subsequent words in titles. Also see:
    --Teratornis (talk) 07:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature

    Hey, I'd like to change the font on my signature...I'm thinking Baskerville Old Face. Is that even accepted? If not, what are the fonts that are accepted? Benjamin 23:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can declare any font. Remember that Wikipedia has Windows, Mac OS, Linux, and other OS users, so your signature will appear as the browser's default font if the font you use is not installed. NF24(radio me!) 23:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    December 5

    I think that I committed a mistake :S

    Hi everybody. I was reading the news and I saw an article about Moninder Singh Pandher and Surender Koli (Indian serial killers). Well, on the article I read that they are Indians, so I came to their articles and their nationalities were not, so I wrote on the articles (( Indian serial killer )) respectively. Was it a mistake?.... Did I must edit the articles to it?. Second point. They killed little girls (most of them only babies), the Pandher's article doesn't say it and the Koli's article doesn't say it.... Do I must edit it? Thanks and forgive me if I committed a mistake.Ahmed987147 (talk) 00:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    As the subject is indeed a serial killer, I see nothing wrong with the categorization. See also WP:CATEGORY. --Kudret abiTalk 08:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    No, You did not make a mistake, and thank you for helping us build an encyclopedia. This is exactly why we are here, and this is exactly why we invite anybody to edit. Please add any additional relevant facts that you are aware of to the articles. However, all facts are supposed to come from reliable sources, and are supposed to cite your sources. If you are a new editor, the exact details of how to cite your sources may be intimidating. You can often find a worked example within the article itself, or you can try to teach yourself how to do it. If it's just too hard, then add the fact anyway, and put the information about the source on the talk page of the article with a request for another editor to add it properly If you prefer not to edit the article yourself, place both the information and the source on the talk page, and ask for someone to edit the article. Thanks again. It's refreshing to get this type of question on the help desk. -Arch dude (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    statistics

    Is there a statistics counter to show what topics are accessed the most? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.159.64.10 (talk) 00:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See old numbers at Wikipedia:Popular pages and new at [12]. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    SPEEDY DELETION

    Hello Help Desk

    An entry I created yesterday for 'Servcorp' has been deleted as per the deletion log below

    06:32, 4 December 2007 Ocatecir (Talk | contribs) deleted "Servcorp" ‎ (Speedy deleted per (CSD G11), was blatant advertising, used only to promote someone or something. using TW)

    Can you please advise why this is classed as blatant advertising when it is a company description and references other search terms found on Wikipedia such as 'serviced offices' and 'virtual offices'?

    Thanks for your help.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Shelleyc (talkcontribs)

    Well, something you might want to look at is WP:AB, which is an article that tells you how to write an article about yourself, or about a company you work for. Before you do this, you should know that it is strongly discouraged to make an article about yourself or a company you own or work in. This is so the articles have a neutral point of veiw, and you don't accidently yurn something into an article that tries to advertise something. ~ Bella Swan 01:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image license

    Hello, how do I go about getting another license added to the drop down list on the image upload form? There's currently two under Creative Commons, version 3.0 and version 3.0 Share Alike. What about version 2.0? Would it be possible for that to be added? Thanks. Redrocketboy 01:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The best place to ask is at WP:MCQ, for details, they may know why it is not listed on the drop drop list, editors can still paste the tags {{Cc-by-sa-2.0|Attribution details}} or {{Cc-by-2.0|Attribution details}}, if the image falls under those licenses. see WP:TAG for instructions, Also as another upload option you may want to upload to Commons instead so that it can be used @ other Wiki project not just to the English version of Wikipedia. ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 06:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I'll register there. Redrocketboy 16:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    eMail

    I added my eMail to my preferences just yesterday but no confirmation eMail arrives. I already clicked the "Send Confirmation Email" button twice, but still nothing comes. Marlith T/C 03:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    This happens on occasion. Sometimes it takes a while to send, sometimes it gets caught by spam filters - check your "junk mail" folder, and see if it's appeared there. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    A whole day! Marlith T/C 04:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    reverting two edits back

    an article was vandalized that erased content and formatting as well as obscene language, someone else erased the obscene language but did not use the undo function so the erased content and incorrect formatting remains, i tried to just undo the vandalizing edit but could not do it, is there an eaiser way to go two edits back other than reformatting and reinserting everything one by one?

    Yes, see WP:REVERT. Marlith T/C 04:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    login/email problem

    This evening, I made an account to help edit a Wikipedia entry. This went fine. I tried to log in a little while later (< 1 hr) and the login would recognize the password I just set up. It's unlikely that I made the same typo twice when initially creating a password, but strange things can happen. So I clicked the email me my password button.

    An hour later, and I have yet to receive the emailed password sent to my gmail account--although the initial email confirmation message arrived promptly after I first set up my user account. So I know that my user name is correctly associated with my email. I know my gmail is active and working because I just sent myself a test message.

    Any suggestion of how to proceed? My user name is cmbarton and the linked email is <e-mail address removed>

    Thanks, Michael Barton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.35.65.242 (talk) 05:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    OK, first, I've removed your email address because having it up on a page like this is (a) not good for your privacy, and (b) asking for spam. Second, it looks like you may have made a mistake not in the password, but in the User name - while there is a User:Cmbarton, their account was created in November 2006, and they have no edits to their name (the first letter of a user name or article title always ignores capitalisation). I would suggest looking at the edit history of the article you edited, to see if you can work out what user name you might have used. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Each Wikipedia version has separate accounts. Did you register at the English Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org? You should not be able to choose the old existing username cmbarton here. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And in case you don't know: The large majority of Wikipedia articles can be edited without having an account. Then the used IP address is credited for the edit instead of a username. Could this have happened with the edit you think was made with your account? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Copyrights

    When mentioning brandnames on articles we don't need to write ® or ™ near them, right? -- Mentifisto 06:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    No you don't, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) which states "Do not use the ™ and ® symbols, or similar, unless unavoidably necessary for context.", cheers. ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡Talk 06:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. -- Mentifisto 07:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And by the way, can no one answer my Wikipedia:Help_desk#Hiding_all_fundraising_ads question that I asked some days ago? -- Mentifisto 07:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I cannot answer it, but searching Wikipedia for: hide fundraiser box finds some discussion elsewhere about the method you tried. Maybe someone else reported the same problem, or you can check with another user who managed with the same technique, and get a sanity check. --Teratornis (talk) 07:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps this would help [13]. --Kudret abiTalk 08:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yay, thanks! Now that annoying banner is finally gone! :-D (Although I don't condemn the fundraising itself, but that green bar with the green people and especially those comments were just intrusive.) -- Mentifisto 09:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem, glad we could be of help. --Kudret abiTalk 22:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    presentation

    How to give a good business presentation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.118.106.24 (talk) 07:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You could start by reading Presentation and following links therefrom. If you mean a presentation where you are not physically present, see Screencast. From my college days, I recall a professor who advised students to "Tell 'em what you're gonna tell 'em; tell 'em; then tell 'em what you told 'em." The idea being to summarize your presentation both before and after you deliver the main body of details. I have no idea whether that is good advice, and see the disclaimers. --Teratornis (talk) 07:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Alignment and structuring

    Hi, Im having some problems structuring my work (on my user page), it jumps around the page. I think I need help on how to justify, center align (horizontally and vertically). If you can help can you also tellme how to add backrounds, please! Also different fonts. Thanks Fattyjwoods (talk) 07:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Everything about user pages is here: WP:EIW#User_p. Let us know if you can't find what you need in those links. I don't myself know how to do what you want, offhand anyway, because I opted for a very simple user page, just plain sections, lists, and links. --Teratornis (talk) 07:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    in need topic importance leadership with headings plz

    i need topic importance of leadership now plz with its heding —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghaffarkalal (talkcontribs) 09:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such, we don't do your work for you. Additionally, this page is for getting help using Wikipedia; you may have more success at the Reference desk, which specialises in general knowledge questions. You may also like to read our article on Leadership. --Kateshortforbob 10:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Nandigram

    nandigram what this is all about —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.211.175.21 (talk) 10:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have a specific question about Nandigram? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    wikimedia

    I heard wikipedia is going to be available for places with limited access to the internet in hard copy format (CD,DVD,...) so can users "buy" or "recieve for free" a hard copy of wikipedia?

    (I hope this is the right page for asking this question :-)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dara.bayat (talkcontribs) 13:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The help desk is a good place to ask questions about Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Snapshots. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    designing a family tree

    I need a programor some advice that will help me to design a family tree without having to fiddle around with formatting whose workings I anyway can't find explained anywhere on wikipedia. Thanks. Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 14:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you mean an article using {{Familytree}}? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • To me this came across as a question about something outside Wikipedia (for which the questioner is looking for an answer on Wikipedia). I think WP:RD/C or WP:RD/H (the reference desks for computing and humanities respectively) are the best place to ask this. - Mgm|(talk) 19:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Where is

    Where is the page that shows the leading editors on Wikipedia? --EndlessDan 14:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia does not have a command structure. At Special:Listusers you can list users based on their permissions, for example administrators. Or maybe Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits is what you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thats what I was looking for. A late thanks! --EndlessDan 17:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    University Musical Society

    I am trying to create a page for the organization "University Musical Society" but am unable to do so, as you can see from the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_musical_society. "University Musical Society" is the full name of our organization (it goes by no other name). For more information (and to ensure the validity of my request) please check out our website at www.ums.org. Why am I unable to create a page for this organization? —Preceding unsigned comment added by UniversityMusicalSociety (talkcontribs) 15:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The page University Musical Society already exists as a redirect to University Music Society. As there appear to be several organisations with a similar name it's somewhat unclear to me that UMS you refer to is going to be the UMS everyone thinks of when people talk about UMS. I strongly suspect someone from Australia may think of the QUMS or perhaps some other organisation. And similarly someone from the UK may think of the OUMS or some other organisation instead of your one, even if the full names of these organisation includes Queensland and Oxford respectively and yours is just UMS. There are probably other UMSes too. As such, it is probably best if you leave things as is and add an additional link in the disambig page to whatever page you create. I would suggest something like University Musical Society (University of Michigan) or University Musical Society (United States). You may want to read Wikipedia:Disambiguation for more information on disambigation pages. I also suggest you read WP:COI before starting any article on an organisation you apparently work for or are part of. Nil Einne (talk) 16:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Nil Einne makes some good points. Regarding redirects, clicking on University Musical Society redirects to University Music Society with the message "(Redirected from University musical society)" near the top. Clicking on the redirect source there leads to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_Musical_Society&redirect=no without activating the redirect. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How Do I Create A Wikipedia Page

    I was wondering how to create a wikipedia page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshWalker89 (talkcontribs) 15:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    As above really. If you have any further questions about first pages, don't hesitate to ask me. I've had some experience adopting other users and I'd be quite happy to apply that knowledge here. — Rudget contributions 16:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Why have my changes been deleted on a page that I initiated?

    Hi there Just curious as to why some changes that I made to an article initiated by me have been changed. The page in question is Legends of Classic Rock. I had a list of all the episodes, that has been deleted. Last week, I added links at the Corus owned affiliate stations - cjxy, cilq, cfgq, cjkr and ckdk - and these have also been removed.

    Just wondering why so I don't make the same mistake again.

    Saralanthier (talk) 16:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, the editor who made those changes (Ckatz) answered this with their edit summary: they felt the article contained excessive links and a non-encyclopedic list. (Note: you shouldn't be editing that article anyway, since you have a severe conflict of interest, as a Corus employee.) --Orange Mike | Talk 16:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    As above, try to refrain from areas that you may be personally involved in. — Rudget contributions 16:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Image formating and latex

    Hello,

    When using Latex code, a new image is created, but this image "merges" in the text. I would like to know if it is possible to have this image in a standard image box.

    Cheers, Randomblue (talk) 17:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I may be able to help more if you bring this to my talk page. Thank you. — Rudget contributions 17:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    This problem still hasn't been resolved. Thanks Randomblue (talk) 18:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Something like this? x42bn6 Talk Mess 19:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes but I would like it to be a thumb on the left or on the right, with a small comment. Randomblue (talk) 19:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    [14] is probably what you need, then. I'm against spoofing the UI of Wikipedia so I'd like to know what it is for (perhaps a proper, saved and uploaded image might be better). To left-align it, change tright to tleft. x42bn6 Talk Mess 19:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks, I am working on the article constant. Randomblue (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Latex

    Hello,

    How do I put colour in my latex symbols? When trying \colour{red}test I get Failed to parse (unknown function "\colour"): {\displaystyle \colour{red}test} .

    Cheers, Randomblue (talk) 17:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    LaTeX apparently uses American English. Try <math>\color{red}this</math> to get tiZom(2¢) 17:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Haha, thanks for that! It works! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomblue (talkcontribs) 18:07, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    starting a new listing

    I just created a login account and spent 45 minutes looking at all the FAQs. Maybe I "can't see the forest for the trees?" I only want to create a new listing for a new business website with a brief description of the website.

    I see all kinds of information on editing existing listings using "the sandbox". But how do you start a new listing or entry?

    When I went to the sandbox, instead of a blank text box, it was full of jibberish.

    thanks, Ronald55 (talk) 18:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It's quite easy. Search the name of your entry in the search box to the left, search it again and click the red link saying "create this page". Make sure to read this first, though. — Rudget contributions 18:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And, since it's a business, this → WP:CORP. tiZom(2¢) 18:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • New websites tend not to be suitable subjects because they do not have the number of visitors/users or the coverage to show it is notable. Quite often such entries are accused of being a promotional effort to direct traffic. It's best to avoid all that and wait until the site made a name for itself. - Mgm|(talk) 19:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia has many restrictions on what sort of content is suitable for articles. If your company is not notable enough for Wikipedia yet, you can write about it on AboutUs.org and Wikicompany, which have content policies much more lenient than Wikipedia's for articles about corporations. Also see: Wikipedia:Business' FAQ and Wikipedia:Alternative outlets. --Teratornis (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Boxes

    {| class="wikitable" align="right" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="margin:0 0 0.5em 0.5em"
    {{Elementbox_section_physicalprop | color1=#ffc0c0 | color2=black }}
    {{Elementbox_density_gpcm3nrt | 19.3 }}
    {{Elementbox_densityliq_gpcm3mp | 17.31 }}
    {{Elementbox_meltingpoint | k=1337.33 | c=1064.18 | f=1947.52 }}
    {{Elementbox_boilingpoint | k=3129 | c=2856 | f=5173 }}
    {{Elementbox_heatfusion_kjpmol | 12.55 }}
    {{Elementbox_heatvaporiz_kjpmol | 324 }}
    {{Elementbox_heatcapacity_jpmolkat25 | 25.418 }}
    {{Elementbox_footer | color1=#ffc0c0 | color2=black }}
    

    Hello,

    I would like to have the same element box but without the periodic table, and all the stuff on top of "general".

    Cheers, Randomblue (talk) 18:40, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I've hacked it about a bit. Is the result what you wanted? Algebraist 19:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Awesome! Thanks. Randomblue (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    ALTA

    What is ALTA standard form owner’s policy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.158.20.2 (talk) 19:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    (added header) This doesn't appear to be a question about Wikipedia, which is what the Help Desk is for. You might get an answer at the Reference Desk, especially if you tell them which ALTA you mean. Algebraist 19:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    calcite

    how do you test for the presence of calcite in a rock sample?

    You click here: how do you test for the presence of calcite in a rock sample? and read some of the search results. The Rockdoctor site, for example, looks interesting. --Teratornis (talk) 19:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How to make a page of information.

    Hi my fellow wiki's. I currently edited a page and added a author whos well known in my small town. I want to make a page about him, but I can't seem to find out how. Please help me as he deserves credit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Natedogg sachs (talkcontribs) 20:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks like you want to make a page about Nathan Robert Sachs; you, however, are discouraged from creating pages about yourself or pages about things you are related to. From your username, it appears you are in fact Mr. Sachs. While you are not expressly prohibited from creating the article, please make an attempt to get someone else to write the article for you first. You may also want to read the notability guidelines for people; if your article doesn't show evidence of passing those guidelines, it likely will be deleted. Thanks. NF24(radio me!) 20:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Graphs and distribution characteristics suddenly won't print correctly any more (for about past month...)

    For example, under "Weibull Distribution", all of the same information is presented, but some sort of update has occurred such that printing the page generates a mess, whereas for at least the past couple of years, this worked without fail. It seems to apply to numerous distribution pages - it is always the sample curves, plus the boxed information about parameters, support, PDF, CDF, etc., that no longer print. There appears to be nothing in the FAQ and I've searched on "print", but nothing seems to be mentioned. This is my first posting, so I'm not even sure how to find any answers any of you may offer, but I'll play with it. Anybody know what happened and how to print these pages moving forward? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.40.0.9 (talk) 21:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the link in the sidebar to 'printable version'? I've no idea what that does, but it might help. Algebraist 22:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    poems that don't rhyme

    what is a poem called that doesn't rhyme? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.145.179.246 (talk) 21:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. NF24(radio me!) 21:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Not all poems have to rhyme, so it's called a poem. Astronaut (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Specifically, an unrhymed poem. Algebraist 23:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    As above, they are generally just called poems, but they are sometimes distinguished as "free-verse poetry" or "prose poetry".--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    No, there are lots of unrhymed poems which are neither free-verse nor prose-poems, such as the works of Homer, and Anglo-Saxon alliterative verse. Algebraist 00:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Caught Vandalism

    I caught some vandalism by 76.16.196.13 on the Jay Treaty's article. Is there any procedure for recommending an IP address be blocked because of vandalism???Thanks! Noneforall (talk) 23:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:AIV is the place for that, but it's very unlikely that any admin will block after a first offence. The normal approach is to just revert the edit and leave a warning on the user's talk page (which I have done). Algebraist 23:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    See also WP:VANDAL for more info. --Kudret abiTalk 23:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    December 6

    Collapsible templates

    The template concerned is a season list one (Template:All Saints season 10 episode list). I have included it in the infobox for the episodes of All Saints but it is quite a long list and so, for reasons of neatness, I would like to make it collapse. I have tried adding "state=collapsed" to the template when i am including it in the infobox but it does nothing. Could you please tell me how to make it collapse? Thanks.Davido321 (talk) 00:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Davido321, could you provide a link to which article you added the template and also tell us where in the article you added it? Thanks, --Kudret abiTalk 00:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, yeah sure, sorry, I should have included it: Against the Wall - Part 1
    As far as I can see, the code generating the title "Season 10 episodes" is part of Template:Infobox_Television_episode so the collapsible code probably needs to go into that template. Perhaps the episode list could be a table nested inside the infobox table, and it could be made to appear collapsed or expanded based on a parameter for the template? --Kudret abiTalk —Preceding comment was added at 01:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Error on "Barry Sanders" page

    Please see the discussion of Barry Sanders (football player) under "1997 Season" someone has altered this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.91.7.194 (talk) 00:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, I am not sure what the question is, but it looks like you are trying to find out the changes made to the article Barry Sanders. For this you can click on the "history" tab on top of the page and view who made what changes. --Kudret abiTalk 01:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The section was vandalized by User:12.125.2.166 and has since been corrected by User:70.109.4.126. Algebraist 01:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The page was vandalized and reverted--English836 (talk) 03:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Photo and Text placement

    I recently added a photo to an article, now text is squeezed between this image and an infobox, Ashford, New South Wales I would like to improve the appearance of the article, spacing works but I am sure there is a better way could someone direct me to an editing hints page, thanks --Matt (talk) 01:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You could change the image placement to put it on the right (below the info box) like this: [[Image:Ashford.JPG|thumb|right|The Main street of Ashford NSW]] or you could put it in the info box like this:
    {{Infobox Australian Place | type = town
    | name = Ashford
    | state = nsw
    | image = Ashford.JPG
    | caption = The Main street of Ashford NSW
    | lga = [[Inverell Shire Council|Inverell Shire]]
    ...
    Astronaut (talk) 01:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I hope this is the correct spot for asking a question

    I cannot make any edits under my account name at all, due to some sort of blacklist for a URL I know nothing about. Can anybody help?Kitchawan (talk) 01:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I am not clear what you are asking. You don't seem to be blocked at the moment. What is the error message that you are getting when you try to edit a page? Are you trying to edit without logging in, perhaps using an open proxy? (c.f. WP:PROXY). --Kudret abiTalk 02:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You made an edit to post your question here and have made two article edits later so I guess you don't need help now. If you have a problem editing a specific page then please which it is. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Based on what you said, it seems you got hit by one of our spam filters. To help prevent the addition of disruptive spam links, certain external links are blacklisted, meaning nobody can save a page that contains the offending URL. As you've seen, however, this creates some problems when a page has a spam URL on it before the URL is blacklisted. When you get the error message, it *should* tell you which URL is causing the problem - all you have to do is go back to the editing window, find that URL, and delete it. Once all blacklisted links are removed from the page, you should be able to save your edits. WP:BLACKLIST can provide you with more information. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    random article options

    I think this has been asked, but: I specialize in geography. When I click random article, is there a way for me to filter only geography things coming through? I'd prefer not to have to click 10 times just to get to an article with relevant stuff I could do. S♦s♦e♦b♦a♦l♦l♦o♦s (Talk to Me) 03:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think there is (and I'm sure someone will be along promptly to correct me if I'm wrong). Even though it's one more step than if you could filter random in the desired manner, you can always click on random articles yourself in Category:Geography and its subcategories; maybe set the category as your homepage.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Fuhghett is correct. The only guarantee you get with Special:Random is that you'll get an article and not a user or policy page. The only way you can change the results is by adding "/Namespace" to the end - for example, Special:Random/User will generate a random user page. I tried it with a subject and I got a disambiguation page that was completely unrelated. Sorry. Hersfold (t/a/c) 03:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    This question has come up before on the Help desk; try searching for previous discussions: Search Help desk for: random article from category. I remember trying to answer this question before, and not doing a very good job. This time I looked at the Editor's index, and I see an interesting entry under WP:EIW#Random:
    I looked at the wikitext to see how the author generates random articles from a set. The method would be straightforward to adapt to another set of articles, but the template contains a hard-coded list of articles from which to select one randomly. Generating the list of articles would be somewhat tedious. I guess you would use Special:Export to generate a big list of page names from several categories; copy the list of page names to an external editor (i.e., just copy the titles, you don't need to actually export the page content to XML); sort the list of page names, remove duplicates, delete things that are not articles (such as things that start with namespace prefixes); do a big column edit to format the list of article titles the way the Middle-earth/Random-article page does; adjust the constant in the random number equation to account for the number of articles you have. Sounds like a bit of a chore, but completely straightforward. You could make it a subpage of Portal:Geography by analogy to the Portal:Middle-earth arrangement. --Teratornis (talk) 04:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Except that I don't especially like the hyphen in the subpage title: "Random-article". I would just call it "Random article". I might try making a page like this for Portal:Cycling because it looks like such a cool feature. --Teratornis (talk) 04:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Limit on number of times you can call a template?

    I think I have exceeded the limit for the number of times I can call a template on this page:

    List of museums in the United States

    I know that this is not a problem with markup because of this:

    • Minnesota looks fine in this version (from history):
    Version 1
    • But in the very next version when I added a large quantity of calls of Template:Museum to a completely different section, look what happened to Minnesota:
    Version 2

    Minnesota was not changed from Version 1 to version 2, only more calls to Template:Museum were made before it.

    Can anyone help me figure out exactly what is going on? Is this a bug or is this an intentional feature? What can I do about this? It was working out very well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Boldt (talkcontribs) 03:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Template limits. And see Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 November 14#Article has been wrecked - List of twin towns and sister cities for a former discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Where?

    Where is the authors name on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.227.208.72 (talk) 03:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Click "history" at top of a page to see the usually many contributors to that page. But maybe Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia and the "Cite this article" link in the toolbox to the left of an article is what you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Most people contribute under false names. You are allowed to use your real name. They can track you down by tracing the computer you are using so this is why you should avoid writing anything that you would be ashamed to see if your name was listed as the author. Congolese (talk) 07:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    free down load - Reg.

    Dear Sir,

    I want to down load wikipedia encylopedia. Any version is available for free down load?. Pl. inform me the details. How to down load and install.

    Thanking you,

    gsre 07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.88.6.240 (talk) 05:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You'll want to take a look at Wikipedia:Database download. Good luck! GlassCobra 05:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    A couple of notes: 1) Everything on Wikipedia is free. That's the whole point of the encyclopedia! 2) Wikipedia is really, really big; before downloading, make sure you have enough free space on your hard drive. I've heard some of the larger database downloads are over 100GB. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 05:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If you only want to read Wikipedia articles, as opposed to downloading a functioning local mirror of Wikipedia for research, see Tome Raider. If you really want to do some sort of research project on the structure of Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Researching Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 17:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Megaglobe -International Search Engine

    I am very surprised not to be able to find information about Megaglobe, the new international search engine.

    There are a ton of press releases about them, millions of visitors a month but no article on Wikipedia.

    Actually Megaglobe is also in the top 100 search engines, so you might want to update your Wiki because there are a lot of discrepencies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.152.138.131 (talk) 05:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Anything from news outlets (press releases are released by the company itself)? Visitors don't mean anything if there are no third party references. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 07:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Megaglobe was deleted 14 November with deletion summary:‎ (CSD A7 (Web): Article about a web site that does not assert significance). PrimeHunter (talk) 21:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    weights

    what is the relationship between pounds and kilograms,as in, how many kilograms equals how many pounds or viceversa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.113.74 (talk) 08:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    1 pound = 0.45359237 kilograms, and 1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds. Also see Pound and Kilogram. Also for future reference, these kinds of questions should normally go to WP:Reference Desk. --Kudret abiTalk 08:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can also use Google Calculator's wonderfully undocumented unit conversion feature, for example: 1 pound in kilograms =. Actually Google documents this somewhere, at least sketchily, but there aren't many clues on the largely blank Google search form that a sophisticated calculator is hiding right there. --Teratornis (talk) 17:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    pounds

    what are pounds? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.220.113.74 (talk) 08:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See my answer above. --Kudret abiTalk 08:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    my article

    I'd like to know if my article is ok now or is it still up for deletion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gatamanga (talkcontribs) 08:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I assume you are talking about Monique_Dupree. For people, the article needs to clearly establish notability criteria given under WP:BIO; otherwise it may be taken to WP:AFD and eventually deleted. --Kudret abiTalk 09:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How to report changes by vandals

    This page has changed "Old Testament" to "Old Testacle"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Nehemiah

    Does anyone at Wikipedia care? Is there an easy way to report vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.118.190.129 (talk) 09:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I reverted the edit and warned the vandal. And yes, we have clear guidelines for dealing with vandalism, please see WP:VANDAL. --Kudret abiTalk 09:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Page deletion because it was considered advertising

    I want to add a page about Intellect publishing. It has been deleted as it said I was advertising the company. How have the company Future Publishing added a page very similar to the one I tried to create and it still exists?? Melaniesharrison (talk) 10:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Melanie, this is the wrong place to ask that question - go to Wikipedia:Deletion review if you want to dispute the deletion. For the record I've tagged Future Publishing as possible advertising and needing wikification. TrulyBlue (talk) 10:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    This is absolutely the right place to ask that question. Deletion review is an option, yes; it is not a good place to ask questions, nor does it have a forum to do so. It's an all or nothing process. Melanie, please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. In short, the nature of Wikipedia means that you cannot make a convincing argument based on what other articles do or do not exist; because there is nothing stopping anyone from creating any article. Plenty of articles exist that probably should not. Equally, because articles must wait for someone who is interested in the subject to notice they are missing before they are created, a lot of articles do not exist that probably should. So just pointing out that an article on a similar subject exists does not prove that the article in question should also exist; it is quite possible that the other article should also be deleted but nobody has noticed it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?, Wikipedia:Business' FAQ, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Spam, Wikipedia:External links. You add a lot of links to Intellect and appear to only be here to promote them. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I change a title of a page?

    I need to change the title of a page as the company name has now changed. How do I go about this? Also, if I change the name will the links to it still work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by NatalieABC (talkcontribs) 12:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can click on the "move" tab at the top of the page. Type in a new page name and the reasons for moving the page. NF24(radio me!) 12:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Moving a page automatically creates a redirect from the old name to the new name, so links will still work. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Ensuring an article appears when a search term is used

    Hello,

    I am trying to ensure that the following page appears when a reader types in the search term 'PAPI'

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAPI:_Personality_and_Preference_Inventory

    At present, a long list of alternatives appear but not this actual page.

    Could you advise please.

    Nick Parfitt

    Nparfitt (talk) 13:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just add a link to it to the diambiguation page PAPI. Algebraist 14:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I have moved it to Personality and Preference Inventory (Wikipedia doesn't use both acronym and full name in titles) and added it to PAPI. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Article submission about an Organisation

    Dear Sir / Madam,

    I need help regarding submission of my Organisation details. Please get in touch with me as soon as possible at <email removed>.

    Thanks & Regards, Harsh Gupta —Preceding unsigned comment added by Advanide (talkcontribs) 14:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The pages at Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article should have most of the information you need. Before you begin, please carefully read through our policies and guidelines on notability, citing reliable sources for verification, neutrality, and formatting and article layout, where many new users commonly make mistakes. You may also want to consider checking out what Wikipedia is not, the deletion policy and criteria for speedy deletion so you know specifically what to avoid when writing your article. I hope this helps.
    Since you appear to be writing about your own company, I'd recommend against writing the article yourself. You would have a conflict of interest which may make the article appear as spam, whether that is your intention or not. If you go to Requested articles, experienced editors will research your company and determine if it's notable enough for an article. Hersfold (t/a/c) 14:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Incorrect Information: Stephen J. Friedman

    In this entry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Friedman

    Friedman is listed as the dean of the law school. You'll see, though, that in the law school's entry, Michelle S. Simon is listed as dean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pace_University_School_of_Law


    Friedman is no longer the dean of the Pace Law School. Can you remove that? Here is an article where Simon is named Dean: http://www.law.pace.edu/News/2007/MSimonInterimDean.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Talopes (talkcontribs) 14:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Resolved
    I was going to suggest you make the change yourself, but you appear already to have done so. Algebraist 14:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about prod on a particular item

    Re Cottesloe band night - I marked this as prod yesterday (Dec 5) on the basis that, although I'm sure it's locally interesting, it doesn't appear to be notable enough for WP. On checking today, I find that the author of the article has removed the prod with no indication why. I've remarked it as prod, but rather than getting into a revert war, I'd appreciate an experienced editor to cast an eye over this and see if I'm being reasonable/unreasonable. The article MAY actually be a CSD, but I was being (I thought) considerate in marking it as prod to allow discussion. Thanks. CultureDrone (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    'If this template is removed, it should not be replaced'. Remember that WP:PROD is only for uncontested deletions. Removing the template presumably indicates contesting of the prod, so the correct next step is to take this to AFD. Algebraist 14:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Done - so much to learn ! :-) Thanks. CultureDrone (talk) 15:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Basically, the Algebraist is right, but it would make things a lot easier if people removing prods actually provided a reason. It's mentioned in the template! Then again, perhaps it's just another manifestation of people not reading instructions. - Mgm|(talk) 18:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Personally, I don't like prods much. They don't leave a 'paper' trail like AFDs do and, to me, they look like an underhand way to delete an article. The entire process depends on the opinion of just two people, the prodder and the deleting admin. If at all possible, I prefer AFD. People use prod templates too much on articles that are clearly going to be controversial. - Mgm|(talk) 18:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    IF I donate to Wikipedia

    does it solely go to this wikipedia or does it go to all the other stuff [like wiktionary]? Gentleness · Talk 19:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    When you donate, you are donating to the Wikimedia Foundation. Wikimedia covers a lot of great projects, including Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikisource, etc. (full list at www.wikimedia.org) tiZom(2¢) 19:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    past tense or present

    Which tense should be used, past or present. For example, the Boeing 737 is an airplane. the 737-200 is no longer made. The 737-800 is still being made. Should the article read:

    The Boeing 737 is an airplane with 2 engines. In 1967, the first 737 flew (not flies). There are many models.
    The 737-200 is (or was) a short, stubby plane (or was because it is no longer made?)
    The 737-200 has 6 doors (not had because there are still 737-200 aircraft flying today?)
    Lufthansa German Airlines ordered some planes (not orders).
    The 737-800 is a long, skinny plane that has 8 doors.
    Delta Airlines ordered some 737-800 aircraft (not orders).

    I think I can figure this out but advice is appreciated. Archtransit (talk) 19:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If it is still in use I think you should use the present tense. The planes, after all, still exist. Gentleness · Talk 19:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Past tense/present tense. And see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Tense. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:01, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    privacy

    How do I ensure that information pertaining to myself does not appear on wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.253.111.98 (talk) 19:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The only information about you that will appear on Wikipedia is your IP address (or username if logged in) and any personal information you yourself say in an edit. Since an IP address technically can reveal some details about your location and internet connection, I'd recommend creating an account under a pseudonym; this will allow you to edit with greater anonymity. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 20:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you mean preventing that other people add information about your person to a Wikipedia article? If you are considered notable then Wikipedia does not generally allow you to prevent mentions of you, but see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons about the possibility of getting some types of information removed. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Username/password for Hornli Ridge

    Hello,

    I signed up yesterday and promplty forgot what password I have used.

    I have asked for a password reminder and I have recieved one.

    I have tried the password as sent by email but it doesn't work so I have created a new account:

    Hornli Ridge2


    You might want to inviestigate why the password wasn't changed but the email was sent.

    You might also want to delete the account Hornli Ridge

    So far I am not very impressed. One more go then I'll call it quits and write my stuff on my own web site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hornli Ridge2 (talkcontribs) 19:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Accounts can't be deleted; the MediaWiki software doesn't allow it, and it can't be done for legal reasons under the GFDL. Try again and see if it works, or just contribute under your new username. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 20:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Welcome to Wikipedia. Your ability to post here with the account Hornli Ridge2 shows that it is already working. I don't know what happened with the Hornli Ridge password but you could try requesting a new password again. Accounts cannot be deleted, but if you want your currently working account to be called Hornli Ridge without "2" then somebody should be able to rename both accounts. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Images without linking to the image page

    This may possibly be the wrong place to ask this question, as it is mainly about using the MediaWiki software, rather than actually using Wikipedia itself. However, I couldn't think of a better place to ask it.

    Is it possible to include an image in a page without having the link to the image information page being created? A wiki that I frequently visit would benefit from the ability to have images load without the links. It's using MediaWiki 1.10.0, in case that information is important. --Lardarse (talk) 19:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You could try at the MediaWiki support desk. --Jon186 (talk) 20:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And see mw:Help talk:Images#Images linking to something else than the Image page?. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    See also mw:Extension:LinkedImage. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And more importantly mw:Extension:ImageMap Prodego talk 20:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    References numbered incorrectly at Emily Dickinson

    Hello, I hope this is just a small technical problem I can't seem to figure out, but there is something wrong with the ref numbers in the Dickinson article. There are fifty-one references, but the reflist has only fifty listed because #34 is listed twice and each following number is therefore off by one. Could someone take a look and let me know what to do? Thanks! María (habla conmigo) 20:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    All you have to do is find the second place where the ref is in the article, and replace that ref with <ref name=""/>. In side the "" just put the name of the ref and it should work fine. ~ Bella Swan 20:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see a problem in Emily Dickinson. Reference 34 is only in the reflist once for me and the last reference has number 51. Try to bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Really? I bypassed and emptied my cache, looked again and there's still only fifty with a duplicate #34. Also, when I clicked the ^ next to the first #34, it disappeared, being replaced by a duplicated #44. When I refresh the page, it goes back to two 34s. Er...? María (habla conmigo) 20:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I see Image:Emily Dickinson screenshot.jpg. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    WikiMedia Tech needed... Date wrong

    All of the timestamps in Wikipedia (can't beleve it took me a year to notice this) are a month behind. It's December, not November. Can we get a tech from WikiMeda to fix this? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistro (talkcontribs) 21:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have an example to link to? It seems to be working fine for me. --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    My user page claims it was edited the 6th of November, but I edited it today. Also, if you look at the history for the community portal, the latest edit was November 6th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistro (talkcontribs) 21:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    On your userpage, I see one edit on November 7 and one on December 7 (UTC +11, hence the day difference). Have you got a screenshot or something showing the dates, or is that November one also meant to be December? Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Neurosurgery

    neuro surgery —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.18.58 (talk) 21:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Neurosurgery? --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If that article doesn't have what you're looking for, you might try asking a more detailed question at the Reference Desk, which specializes in knowledge questions. We're only here to help you use Wikipedia. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    how to add a file to an article

    I uploaded a jpg photo of a lava heron to be used in the article on lava herons. Unfortunately, the file seems to have gone into limbo - it is not linked to the article. How do I link it?

    I am finding the process of adding photos to your articles so frustrating that I may not do so in future. The difficulty of the process may be putting off many other people as well as me. Please put up clear instructions on how to link the image one uploads to an article.

    The article is

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lava_Heron&oldid=166029182

    The uploaded jpg is called "Lava heron Ecuador_4008a.jpg" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soler97 (talkcontribs) 22:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Instructions for inserting an image into an article are at WP:IMAGE#Using images. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:08, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Click "my contributions" at the top of any page to get Special:Contributions/Soler97 which shows Image:Lava heron Ecuador 4006a.jpg. There is no image called Image:Lava heron Ecuador_4008a.jpg. This edit would have worked if you had used the right file name. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Question

    What's the difference between banned users and blocked users? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bane of Durin (talkcontribs) 23:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Purely quoting from policy pages: A ban is a formal revocation of editing privileges on all or part of Wikipedia. Blocking, by contrast, is the technical mechanism we use to prevent an account or IP address from editing Wikipedia. While blocks are one mechanism used to enforce bans, they are most often used to deal with vandalism and violations of the three-revert rule. Blocks are not the only mechanism used to enforce bans. A ban is a social construct and does not, in itself, disable a user's ability to edit any page. You will get much more in depth information and understanding if you read the policies themselves: Wikipedia:Banning policy; Wikipedia:Blocking policy.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    View without citations in text

    Is there any way I can read an article without the distracting citations? Gforce20 (talk) 23:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, use
    .reference { display: none }
    in your CSS file.--Patrick (talk) 00:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    December 7

    Why can't I make a article

    Why can't I make a article. I made one before but it got deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunter*97 (talkcontribs) 00:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The article you made was speedily deleted, as it was complete nonsense. Wikipedia is not a playground or a social networking site. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    An article has to meet notability and verifiable requirements before it can be posted to Wikipedia. You may want to read those page to create a better article. --Hdt83 Chat 04:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have assissted access ?

    Do you have assissted access ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.48.222 (talk) 01:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not sure what you mean. This is the help desk for Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Maybe you saw one of our more than two million articles and thought we were the help desk for the subject of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Template Problems...

    If you look at the top right corner of my userpage, you will see that I have the Userinfo template on it, as well as the Penguin Cabal logo. However, they overlap eachother. Is there any way this can be prevented? Thank you!! Cheers!! Ninetywazup? ( r t ) sign here! 03:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Someone who actually understands this stuff well may have a more elegant solution, but I fixed it by manually placing the code from {{userinfo}} and tweaking the right alignment. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Naming a ref tag

    I've been trying to name ref tags because I am reusing footnotes. I was using the template from Wikipedia:Footnotes but I can't get it to work. Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliz83 (talkcontribs) 04:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. The first time you use a reference: <ref name="name">text</ref>; the next time you want to use the same reference, all you need to do is place <ref name="name" />. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:23, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, is it okay to for a biographical article to link to a site raising funds to help the person? I'm concerned I may have been wrong in taking the link out for Jammie Thomas. ThanksRich (talk) 04:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If Jammie Thomas has a pertinent (notable) case and there are reliably sourced published articles about the legal defense fund, then you might mention it. Mentioning it to raise money is not permitted.

    Reading the article, the most I can think is to look for creditable news stories that mention that she established a legal defense fund and cite the source. Citing the legal defense fund website for the purposes of raising money is not permitted. Congolese (talk) 04:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    What is Projectspace?

    I saw an election here. Someone mentioned WP space. I assume that this help page is one of the Wikipedia space because that's the name of the page, Wikipedia:Help desk. What is Projectspace? Some examples of those pages? Congolese (talk) 05:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Project namespace. The project namespace (aka projectspace) is the general Mediawiki name for the namespace which in Wikipedia is called the Wikipedia namespace. Thus Project:Help desk is another name for Wikipedia:Help desk. Algebraist 05:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    For information of namespaces generally, one may also see Wikipedia:Namespace. Joe 06:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Rearranging sections in an article

    Hi there, I am trying to rearrange sections in the article Kuala Lumpur but there seems to be a problem which i dont understand. Under a level-2 headline (Demographics) there are four sub-headlines. When try to edit the section to create just one sub-headline, the result was unexpected. The Demographic section merged with the next section (Geography), and the Geography headline dissapears. See this: before, and after. Any idea whats the problem? kawaputratorque 06:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Apparently you removed the Geography headline... unless I'm not understanding your question. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 06:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes i removed it because the geography level-2 headline is contained within the Demographic level-2 headline. Meaning, when i click edit to Demographic, how is it possible that Geography (a separate section) is also within the edit box for Demographics? So i removed it. But this was after where the problem started, ie: my original post. How is it possible this edit of mine resulted in some missing texts below. The text below does not appear in the article but appears in the edit box! Am i missing something? Hope i am clear.

    ==Geography== {{main|Geography of Kuala Lumpur}} The geography of Kuala Lumpur is characterized by a huge valley known as [[Klang Valley]]. The valley is bordered by the [[Titiwangsa Mountains]] in the east, several minor ranges in the north and the south and the [[Strait of Malacca]] in the west. The name Kuala Lumpur is a [[Malay language|Malay]] word which literally means "muddy confluence" as it is located at the [[Confluence (geography)|confluence]] of the [[Klang River|Klang]] and [[Gombak River|Gombak]] rivers.<ref>{{cite news|publisher=Asiaweek|work=Asia's Best Cities 2000|title=Kuala Lumpur: Growing Pains|url=http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/asiacities/kualalumpur.html|accessdate=2007-12-04}}</ref>

    kawaputratorque 07:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just before that section, you added the code <ref name="wg">. That should be <ref name="wg" />, or all hell breaks loose. Algebraist 07:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    O dear. Just because of that?? Sorry, i should have checked 1st. It works ok now. Thanks a lot! kawaputratorque 07:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Attempted retrieval of lost edit info?

    Hello, I just logged on and spent three hours cleaning up, deleting repeated items, and putting everything in the correct sequence for the "Pete Sears" page. After I pressed save, it said in red letters I would have to try and submit the info again...even though my changes showed up underneath. I somehow lost the changes while attempting to get them to take. Is there anyway for me to retireive the changes that I made? Thank you. Pemburyclose (talk) 07:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks to me like you haven't edited the article in many months, so is it possible that you used the preview, and did not use the "save page" button? Another possibility is that when you went to save, the database was temporarily locked, which happens from time to time, to allow the servers to catch up. Generally they don't stay locked for more than a minute or two at the most, so waiting it out isn't too difficult. Since I don't see any edits from today, it was not caused by an edit conflict, so I'm not sure what the red letters you saw were. Unfortunately, if you closed the window you were editing in, no, there is no way for you to get those changes back. Sorry :( ArielGold 08:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I just took a look at the article, and it is a complete copy/paste copyright violation from here, so I'm reverting to the last good, uncopied version. ArielGold 08:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Can i add my business as an external link?

    Hi, Please can you tell me if i am allowed to add my business as an external link just on relevent pages in wikipedia? Thanks Sally —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibetthisnameisnttaken (talkcontribs) 07:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I would suggest that you read the external links guideline. Generally there are very few reasons to add links to businesses, except in the articles about those businesses themselves. It would, of course, be easier to answer if you linked to the page you wanted to add it to, and gave the link to the site you want to add. ArielGold 08:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I notice you've added a certain external link to a few articles and have been reverted, so I assume your company website is linked in this edit The website in question gives sale advertisements for a company; it does not provide the readers with any additional and helpful content, so I'm afraid your addition is considered spamming, see WP:SPAM#External link spamming for our guideline on this matter. Please don't add the same link to Wikipedia articles again. Thank you, PeaceNT (talk) 08:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Jewish customs & Sting

    I'm writing a paper and I was wondering a couple of things: why do Jewish people rip their clothes when someone dies? and does any one know the name of the song that the artist Sting sings about in the song, Dancing for the dead? Any one have any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.13.107 (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You may be better off asking at the Reference desk (probably the Humanities and Entertainment desks, respectively) where general knowledge questions are answered. This page is for help using Wikipedia. However, the article Bereavement in Judaism may have some of the information you require. --Kateshortforbob 09:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Conflict of interest and requested edits

    After a long (and, frankly, rather unconstructive) discussion about conflicts of interest when helping a colleague in our copywriting team correct inaccurate and non-neutral statements on the article about my employers (uSwitch), we agreed that further edits would be placed on the Talk: page and left for another editor to make the change.

    I posted, on behalf of my colleagues, such a requested change on October 25, 2007. Similarly, both I and another helpful editor listed it on the COI noticeboard, in the hope that someone there might help out and make the edit for us.

    Since then, one editor has mentioned that he was unable to make the edit himself because he was about to go on holiday, which is entirely understandable. Other than that, absolutely nothing has happened.

    I am still very disappointed about the way in which the original COI discussion took place — with my perception being that the only editor seeming to assume good faith being myself and everyone else involved assuming that, simply because I am employed by a company I must be incapable of being objective about edits to that article, without taking the time to look at the content of the edits being proposed and with little knowledge of the context of those edits. It was all the more frustrating given that I'd given up quite a bit of goodwill within the company explaining the concept of WP:NPOV and WP:COI, that we were entirely clear about the COI and that we actively invited review of the edits to ensure other, unconflicted editors were happy with the neutrality of the resulting wording.

    What worries me more, however, is that following "the right process" to try to get edits made to an article simply doesn't seem to work — in this case, at least. Nearly 45 days after first proposing edits that would make the article more accurate and more neutral, absolutely nothing has happened. Frankly, we would have been better served going to a webcafé and making the edits ourselves and hiding the conflict.

    It is my belief that the COI policy currently does not work. The principles behind it are sound and wise; I have no disagreement with the policy itself and agree that it's necessary to have such a policy on Wikipedia. In practice, however, there seem to be far more editors interested in looking for conflicted edits and making sure no evil companies or politicians try to whitewash criticism of themselves than there seem to be editors interested in ensuring that edits are indeed neutral and balanced — a situation I understand entirely, but not one I believe is conducive to the goals of Wikipedia. In short, the letter of the law seems to be treated as more important than its spirit — something which I believe damages Wikipedia and gives us less credibility as a "real" encyclopædia.

    So I have two issues:

    1. Could someone please take a look at the proposed changes to the article uSwitch and either make the edits or leave comments on the Talk: page so we can discuss them further;
    2. How do we "fix" the implementation of the COI policy so that it works properly and other editors don't suffer similar frustrations?

    All suggestions and help gratefully received and, obviously, I should disclaim that these words and my frustration are mine alone and are not necessarily representative of the views of my employers. For the record, I do not work in the marketing or PR department of the company, I am a software developer who got involved in this whole issue simply because I lose lots of my free time to this awesome project to create a good, Free encyclopædia, and thus was asked to advise on how to deal with inaccuracies within the article.

    Thanks for your help! — OwenBlacker (Talk) 10:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I will take a look in a minute, and meanwhile I will offer my perspective. :) COI edits are discouraged, but not disallowed. If you feel fully confident that your edits are neutral, not promotional and provide proper sourcing, you might choose to be bold. I'm not one to invoke "ignore all rules", but if your proposed edits will stand up to strict scrutiny then following process for the sake of process does no good for the encyclopedia. With your involvement announced on the talk page, no one can accuse you of being covert. As far as changing the policy, you begin to fix it by opening conversation at Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest or at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). (Personally, I'd open it at both.) Changing Wikipedia policy can require quite a lot of wheel-spinning, but if you are motivated, you may be able to make it happen. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Evidently, the changes have already been implemented. Looking at the history of the article, I can see your hesitance to be bold in this regards. Good luck with the policy revision. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there anyway to stop or slow down Sinebot...

    Sinebot seems to think project talk subpages are also talk pages (not unreasonable), and is signing a subpage in the talk area that is being used to collect assessment information. For this purpose the edit history is sufficient documentation of who has done what (at least for now). Is there any way to tell the bot, don't auto-sign here?

    A related problem. Sometimes on talk pages, there will be an edit conflict because Sinebot came and signed a previous post. On long talk pages this can be a real problem because the edit conflict causes the entire page to be loaded in the browser and memory is so clogged that editing is near impossible. Again is there any way to make Sinebot a little less aggressive?

    Thanks, in advance, Egfrank (talk) 11:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    There are two ways to do this:
    • On the page itself
    • For the first problem, you will want to check for Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed. That means that SineBot is monitoring it even if it is not a talk page. Then establish consensus on the project talkpage that SineBot is not needed then remove the category.
    • For the second problem, contact User:Slakr (the operator of SineBot) with your question.
    • On your userpage

    Forgot password

    I have forgotten my log in name and password. How do I get it ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.32.20 (talk) 12:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you remember an article that you've edited? If you can track your log in name and if you had entered a valid e-mail which is still current, Wikipedia will be able to mail you your old password. Otherwise, I'm afraid that you may have no other option than to create a new account. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    This is a good reason to give your email address when you sign up as a user. Spevw (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    showing a page on Wikipedia

    --212.38.136.250 (talk) 13:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)I just created an account for my company then I created a page. It is all about my company in Amman, Jordan. The name is PAUSE Business Center. But when I want to search for it in Wikipedia I cant find it. Why??? Please tell me the procedure. Thanks.[reply]

    Adnan Hajjawi Amman, Jordan

    Hello. Personally, I don't see any record of an article having been created for PAUSE Business Center, and I do not find a record that an article has been deleted under that name. (There are three processes under which mainspace articles are deleted: 1) speedy deletion; 2) proposed deletion (prod) and 3) Articles for deletion (AfD). For more information, see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?) If you posted the question under your logged in name, we would be able to look at your contribution history to see if there's any indication of what might have happened there. If not, then I would presume something happened to disrupt the saving of the page, whether that might be a technical glitch or user error. Personally, I try to save material off wikipedia before creating articles just in case. If you can give more information--such as the log in name used to create the article--we may be able to help further. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:51, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    help

    I am new to Wikipedia. I updated Carnegie Corporation's profile and it says it needs to be cited and wikified. What does this mean? I am from the organization so all information inputed is correct. Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.20.3.132 (talkcontribs) 09:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Information provided in an article must have verifiable, reliable sources provided (usually as footnotes) so that the information can be checked by other editors and by users. To "wikify" an article means to put it into the proper Wikify format, with internal links to other Wikipedia articles, proper section and subsection headings, etc. Also: if you are from this organization, please be aware of our highly stringent conflict of interest standards. As a rule, with certain exceptions, you should generally not be editing this article at all. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Page doesnt show up

    Thanks for your reply. My page log on name is PAUSE Business Center. I created the account and I created a logo and I saved the page but whenever i make a search on PAUSE Business Center it wont show up the information.

    Thank you.

    Adnan Hajjawi Amman, Jordan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.38.136.250 (talk) 14:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The page you created is User:PAUSE Business Center. I believe searches ignore userpages by default, which would explain why this didn't show up. Algebraist 14:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (EC) It is generally a bad idea to create an article for your own company, as you have a conflict of interest that would make it hard for the article to follow our neutral point-of-view policy. Wikipedia is not meant for advertising or promoting your product, company, or service. Most likely what happened was the article was speedily deleted as an article that consists entirely of blatant advertising for a company, product, or group. All articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability policy and have reliable, independent sources to verify them. If your company is notable enough, then there will be someone unaffiliated with the company who will create the article. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 15:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I edit the page name

    Currently the page is listed as Chicago gourmet steaks

    I would like to capitolize the "g" in gourmet and the "s" in steaks. Is there any way to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgsteaks (talkcontribs) 16:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes. You go to the "Move" tab at the top of Chicago gourmet steaks, and when it asks, you enter the new title of Chicago Gourmet Steaks. Looks like your account hasn't been opened for long enough, so I'll do it for you. tiZom(2¢) 16:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless your article is deleted! Then I suppose you can't move it at all... tiZom(2¢) 16:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem with a template calling itself (in the noinclude)

    1. Create a template named A containing the text: <includeonly>inc1</includeonly><noinclude>noinc calling={{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</noinclude>
    2. Save. It will show: noinc calling=inc1
    3. Call A from another page B, as in: {{:A}}
    4. Page B will show: inc1
    5. Edit page A, change the number in inc1 to inc2, change only the includeonly part, it should be: <includeonly>inc2</includeonly><noinclude>noinc calling={{:{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</noinclude>
    6. Save, here is the problem - page A will show: noinc calling=inc1
    7. Refresh page A, nothing chages.
    8. Refresh page B, it shows, as it should: inc2
    9. Edit page A, save immediately with no changes at all, it will fix and show: noinc calling=inc2
    • If you change anything outside the includeonly part, this error will not occure.
    • This really looks like a bug.

    If you want an example see in my user page, the template (which I refer to as A here): User:Itaj Sherman/sandbox/X0. You can edit in the template, change the number in inc## and save. You can also see that in User:Itaj Sherman/sandbox it will show the new number.

    This causes problems when trying to show on a template page how it works. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Itaj Sherman, I have not been able to look deeply into your problem, but it seems like you are doing a lot of refreshing, saving with no changes etc. sort of things so maybe this could be some issue with the cache, have you tried bypassing it? (see WP:BYC) --Kudret abiTalk 17:19, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    It is just the way the wiki engine is behaving now, and I think it's a bug. It happens on the hebrew wikipedia too. All the refreshing and saving I did here was in order to get a specific description of the problem, and I did. Anyway, as I said, the thing is that there was a problem already before refreshing, and even refreshing doesn't solve it. I think a programmer of wiki-engine needs to look at this, if you tell me where to report bugs, I will report it. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:36, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not a bug but a deliberate feature. You may have to edit or purge a page transcluding a template in order for the page to "discover" that the template has been changed. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    It is not possible to require an edit for pages that transcluding a template, because when someone changes a template he cannot be required to go edit all the pages that already use it. Anyway, it is not where the problem happens. I am talking about a template transcluding itself. Which can be very common, because sometimes people give examples of how to use a template in its own noinclude section. Now, in this situation, the templates does not discover that it has been changed by refreshing (is this what you mean by purge?). And it makes no sense to have a feature that requires edit+save without changing anything just in order for a template to discover itself, it's not a teenage support site. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Let me explain specifically why it is important. Is also the way I found this bug. I was changing a template in the hebrew wikipedia. That template has in its noinclude section, an explanation of how to use it, with a few examples. After I saved it, I wanted to see that the shown examples changed and work correctly in the new way I planned them to. But they didn't change at all. I refreshed and they still didn't change. Then I went to another page that trascludes that template and there it seems good (in the new version). --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, I got the purge thing. It fixes it. So I get it now, it may just be a known issue that won't be fixed. But calling it a deliberate feature doesn't do it, I don't think anyone would say it works better this way. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 22:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    OK no, I read the whole purge explanation, and it is not it. They specifically state that the page that has been changed is "touched" and should be recreated immediately. This does not happen in this case where the template is changed and saved but doesn't discover its change where transcluding itself. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 23:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    I tried, it updated immediately (not in preview, but after saving).--Patrick (talk) 23:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You appear to have discovered the link I gave to purge. If you dont like calling it a "deliberate feature" then call it a known and accepted consequence of a deliberate choice. For performance reasons, Wikipedia doesn't want to immediately rebuild every page transcluding a template each time the template is edited. And the person editing the template is not supposed to go through the transcluding pages and purge them. They will eventually be updated and no or very little harm is probably done by continuing to transclude the old template version for a while. Editing a template which transcludes itself may be a little tricky and the functionality is not mentioned directly at Wikipedia:Purge. I guess the saved page is only built once, based on what the transcluded page (itself) looked like before the save. I think the current functionality is OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a reported bug [15]. --Itaj Sherman (talk) 02:14, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How can I put my organization on wiki

    WHAT DOES WIKIPEDIA SAY ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION? Did you know that Wikipedia—the free online encyclopedia that anyone can write an article for—is the second most visited site on the web? And that if your organization isn't on it, it should be? Take a look at the entries for well-known organizations such as the NAACP and the American Cancer Society. You can edit an entry about your organization (or one you know) and you can create an entry for your organization if there isn't one already. It's an opportunity to let people know not only about your nonprofit, but about its constituency, clients, and cause. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SCIwoburn (talkcontribs) 18:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • I don't know where you got this from, but Wikipedia has strict guidelines about advertising (we don't allow it) and there's also a conflict of interest guideline that specifically discourages people to write about organizations they're connectioned with because it poses a risk to the Neutral point of view policy. In short: Just don't do it. - Mgm|(talk) 19:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Seems to be taken verbatim from here. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia isn't actually the second most-visited Web site, but the English Wikipedia does rank in the top ten most visited sites in the United States (depending on whose data we believe). In any case, Wikipedia is enormously visible, and any corporation that fails to grasp the value of exposure here doesn't deserve to stay in business. Thus as Wikipedia grows in popularity it can expect plenty of public relations people to come here and try to astroturf articles about their companies. Note that as a side effect of Wikipedia's notability guidelines, we probably end up inadvertently promoting well-established companies at the expense of startups that aren't notable yet, in a rich get richer kind of way. In any case, if billions of people really wanted to read pages about every single company in the world, then Wikicompany would be (or be on the way to becoming) a massively popular wiki. --Teratornis (talk) 01:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How to retrieve cite entire article

    Hi, my article was deleted last week because of copyright issues (copied straight from the website). However, I am in fact writing on behalf of that organization, who owns both the content and website, but i failed to cite properly. I've tried reading all the help articles, but i'm still kind of confused (even my post on the deleted page's usertalk page was deleted). So first off, how would i go about 'undeleting' my article. Then, how would i properly cite my article? (since everything was copied off the website, would i just note that one website as my reference?). I still have the source code for my original entry, but i don't think it's too wise to try to repost the same article before coming here for help. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcbroadway (talkcontribs) 18:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You've got a few problems here. First, the deleted talk page said, "We..."! Each individual account on Wikipedia is assigned to an individual editor. We don't permit any kind of corporate or organizational accounts (what are called "role accounts") where multiple persons may be sharing the editorial responsibilities. Each Wikipedia editor is uniquely responsible for his or her edits. Second, the article was created and edited by someone connected to the subject of the article, in violation of our conflict of interest guidelines which seek to preserve our neutral point of view and avoid the insertion of advertisement, biased statements, etc. Third, the question of whether the subject organization is even notable (in the Wikipedia sense of the term. Read our guidelines on that topic for more information as to whether the group would even qualify for a Wikipedia article. If it does qualify, you will need to provide sources for the article from a more impartial set of sources, not from the organization's own website. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia does not want an article about every company, but Wikicompany does. Also see Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? for information about getting a copy of your article back for your own use elsewhere, and see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. See WP:PEACOCK for the difference between writing for a typical corporate Web site vs. writing for an encyclopedia. --Teratornis (talk) 00:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    how do i delete my own entry?

    i entered an article and i wish to delete it. how can this be done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Efratmb (talkcontribs) 19:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just go to the edit history and click "revert"! Put "self-revert" in the edit summary. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    To have an article you created deleted, replace the article with {{db-author}}. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Gift Article

    Good friend of mine is huge Wikipedia addict. For birthday, I'd like to have an article in Wikipedia about that person. I know it is not compliant with Wiki rules & guidelines and would expect it to be deleted, but would like permission/approval for one-day gift article. No inappropriate or negative information, just short bio. Is this ever allowed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.91.34.33 (talk) 20:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • With a potential amount of editors of 6 billion people, multiple people would be having their birthday each day. Allowing each of them such a gift would lead to massive amounts of work for administrators, so to avoid the hassle, there's no exceptions. Sorry! - Mgm|(talk) 23:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can, however, celebrate your friend's birthday on WikiBios. --Teratornis (talk) 00:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Article

    Can you tell me where the sandbox is?70.8.220.180 (talk) 21:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sure. Click here and it'll bring you to the wikipedia sandbox. AngelOfSadness talk 21:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Or if you want the article on sandboxes and other uses of sandboxes, Click on this link]. AngelOfSadness talk 21:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Pics

    How do I add pictures?70.8.220.180 (talk) 21:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Depends on what type, use Wikipedia:Upload to upload them, however you must select the correct license for them. The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 21:08, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And if they are already uploaded then see Help:Images and other uploaded files for how to add them to articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing Username

    Resolved
     – User has changed name to Ramanna.Sathyanarayana. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I see the comment by PrimeHunter regarding Hornli Ridge account as

     Accounts cannot be deleted, but if you want your currently working
     account to be called Hornli Ridge without "2" then somebody should
     be able to rename both accounts.
    

    I just need to change my Username from Ramanna.sathyanarayana to Ramanna.Sathyanarayana. How do I get my Username changed ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramanna.sathyanarayana (talkcontribs) 21:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    What is the difference between the names? ~ Bella Swan 21:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Capitalization of surname. It's a common and allowed reason for username change. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can make a request at Wikipedia:Changing username. Corvus cornixtalk 21:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for all the suggestions and help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramanna.sathyanarayana (talkcontribs) 07:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Resolved
     – Fixed the Vandalism Problem

    ..Search for "Wii" etc. to see where... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.68.52.241 (talk) 22:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    I removed the sentence on 'Wii", is that all the vandalism? The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 22:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    In the future, you can fix vandalism yourself, since anyone can edit Wikipedia. Just check WP:REVERT to see how. Hersfold (t/a/c) 23:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Fcarolyn

    Hi there I am terribly sorry for the 'copyright infringement' problem. I was just trying to get my husband on Wikipedia and get his name out there and his work, he is the sculptor. I had his permission to write anything from his own personal webpage, and he asked me to get his Shows and commisioned pieces in there. So I changed a few things so that it is not verbatim what his website says. I was wondering if you can please take a look at what I have edited and please consider putting this back up. It is my Christmas present to him. But if I must redo it if given the oppurtunity I will do so. Thank you for taking the time to re-read or allow the changes to be placed up for others to read, or asking me to redo it all together. Sincerely, Carolyn Faunce e-mail removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fcarolyn (talkcontribs) 23:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • I'm afraid writing about your husband would violate the conflict of interest guidelines. "Get his name and his work out there" is usually another phrase for "advertise" which is not allowed in Wikipedia. Unless he had his work exhibited in a major gallery or something like that, I doubt he meets the guideline for inclusion (WP:BIO). - Mgm|(talk) 23:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You can, however, create a biography page on Wikibios. --Teratornis (talk) 00:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I can't log in, (incorrect password), haven't recieved new password email

    Login error:Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again.

    Username vIQleS. (@)

    Umm - what else do you need to know?

    lx1 dot co dot nz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.138.83 (talk) 23:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You don't Special:Emailuser/VIQleS appear to have registered an email address on Wikipedia. As such, unless you remember your password, you'll have to create a new account, although since User:vIQleS has no contributions, you may be able to get the name back via the usurpation process. Algebraist 03:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Ok - so i tried to register as 'viqles' and it said i needed to get an admin to approve it (as its 'very similar to ...') can someone do this for me please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.138.83 (talk) 09:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can try asking at Wikipedia:Request an account or Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. Tell that you created User:VIQleS but cannot access it. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I delete a page?

    My instructor, Sultan Uddin, asked that I delete his wikipedia entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grifter1358 (talkcontribs) 23:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Just write over the article. Bothsidesspin (talk) 00:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry, you can't delete it yourself. You need to be an administrator. But you can put {{db-userreq}} on the page (without the nowiki tags). Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 00:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    {{db-userreq}} is only for userspace pages, while the article in question is in the mainspace. Since it's already up for deletion, the obvious thing to do is go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sultan Uddin and explain why it should be removed. Algebraist 03:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    December 8

    getting rid of red

    When I sign my name, my user name is red. Most people's are blue. Can you change it for me or tell me how to do it? Thank you. Bothsidesspin (talk) 00:08, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    It's red because you haven't created a user page. To do that, just click the red link, write something, and save. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    ::Becoming a registered user (if you haven't already), changes it to blue aswell. GoodDay (talk) 00:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC) [reply]

    Huh? A registered user is defined as a user with an account, and somebody with an account name clearly has an account. I don't know whether you are thinking of autoconfirmed accounts (happens after 4 days), but that doesn't change the user page link. The link was red because it went to a page which had not been created at the time. See Wikipedia:Red link. This goes for all pages and is nothing specific to user pages. The only way to avoid a red user page link in the signature, without somebody creating the user page, is to change the signature away from the default. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    My mistake, ignore my above observation. GoodDay (talk) 00:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The custom on the help desk is to strike our errors, like this: Oops, my bad (and yes, I've had practice at this - but note, because of the way the brain forms memories, it turns out the more embarrassing our gaffes, the more firmly we will remember the accompanying lesson. I can still remember at least one word definition I missed on the Scholastic Aptitude Test decades ago). While we're on the subject of user pages, it's interesting to scroll around in Special:Listusers and note the low percentage of users who have them. Most user names appear as red links on Wikipedia. This suggests the majority of users who have created accounts have not yet gotten very far with editing on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 00:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Changes to American Dream

    Could some of the experienced editors please review the recent changes to this article ? I'm having a hard time working out if this is vandalism, a violation of WP:NOR or simply a good faith (but confusing) rewrite. Thanks. CultureDrone (talk) 00:42, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Someone's finally taken the plunge and reverted the edits.CultureDrone (talk) 09:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Invalid password

    Icannot get my password right. My e-mail address is <e-mail removed>. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.46.230 (talk) 01:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If you set up an e-mail address for your account, you can click "E-mail new password" from the login page. This should send an e-mail message to you letting you change your password. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 02:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    If you have not set up e-mail, then I believe your only option is to create a new account. Algebraist 03:40, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    User:Arsensalsa

    Ok - that's the last time I try and sort our user pages ! Can someone please look at Arsen Salsa - I believe this is supposed to be the userpage for Arsensalsa (the user renamed the page back on 5th December, but in trying to rename it as a user page, I renamed it (incorrectly) as User:Arsen Salsa, rather than User:Arsensalsa, and now I can't move it to the correct page. Aaarrgghhh - help !! CultureDrone (talk) 01:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry, I think I've messed it up. I tried to fix this and got in a right old mess. It looks like there is a double redirect sending you to the wrong page. The Arsen Salsa article in the main namespace redirects to the correct place User:Arsensalsa, but that page includes a redirect to the wrong place User:Arsen Salsa. I tried to move it, but the Wiki software stopped me, saying a page of that name already existed. I think it now needs the intervention of an experienced administrator. Astronaut (talk) 01:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Well thanks for trying anyway ! If it's that difficult, I know it's not just me being a thicko...well, no more than usual ! Ok then ....Takes deep breath... one... two... three... "Administrators...HEELLPPP!" CultureDrone (talk) 10:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    disappearing references

    Can anyone tell me why my references disappeared on my page about Mary Kenny O'Sullivan? Eliz83 (talk) 01:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You put <ref/> where you wanted </ref>. I fixed it. --teb728 t c 01:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks! Eliz83 (talk) 01:51, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


    Finding out who deleted a page

    Is there some way I can find out who deleted some user-subpages I created? I created them and then they were deleted.

    Thanks DTGardner (talk) 04:48, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? which describes how to search the deletion logs. --Teratornis (talk) 04:54, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I have Searched the Deletion log and cannot find the article. DTGardner (talk) 05:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Never mind, the articles have been un-deleted... DTGardner (talk) 05:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Joe Klein article ("Controversy" section)

    I need some advice rather quickly. I may -- or may not -- have started an edit war in the "Controversy" section of the Joe Klein article. An anonymous editor believes that the section is biased/unbalanced. I believe (quite firmly, I might add) otherwise. I would really appreciate input from experienced editors/administrators A.S.A.P.<br. /> --Nbahn (talk) 04:55, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Business Ethics

    Moral Philosophies in Business Ethics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.152.90.103 (talk) 06:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is designed for questions about Wikipedia only. You might want to ask on the Reference Desk, or try searching Google. Raven4x4x (talk) 06:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you want any sort of a meaningful response, you're better off writing a full sentence. If you want to type that word in a search engine, use google or the search box on the left of your screen. - Mgm|(talk) 08:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploaded image to en and commons, now want to get rid of en version.

    Is there a way to delete an image I uploaded in error? Basically I have uploaded a newer version in commons and I'm not sure how to reference it specifically - the en version seems to take precedence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikeoligny (talkcontribs) 10:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can use {{NCD}} to tag the en image as moved to commons. NF24(radio me!) 11:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Perfect, thank you! Mikeoligny (talk) 11:51, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating separate articles

    I edit mainly Malaysian related articles, and i notice a lot of articles on places talk about two things in one article. Eg: Muar is a town in Johor state, and is also an administrative district (named after the town/capital). Many other articles are also like this: Sandakan, Kudat, Kuantan, Raub, etc. I think there should be separate articles for the town and districts. Should i proceed to create separate articles? kawaputratorque 10:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    There is no requirement to do this as a policy, but there is no prohibition against doing this either, so you must use common sense. The articles are not so large that a split is justified by the article size guideline. However, I think you should split them. As you say, each article is really about two distinct entities, and we generally prefer not to do that. When two governmental divisions are co-extensive, we generally do have a single article, but this is not the case here. If there is an appropriate wikiproject, please discuss this at the project first. -Arch dude (talk) 15:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the reply. I'll consult the Malaysian wikiproject and will most probable create separate articles. kawaputratorque 03:47, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Translating

    Hello, I am interested in translating some articles from English to Czech. How will I do it? Thank you Marketa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.239.227 (talk) 12:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Try the Czech Wikipedia (Interwiki links won't work today...). We over here at the English Wikipedia can only help you with translating articles from Czech to English; you can do this at WP:RFT if you are interested. NF24(radio me!) 12:47, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem using Twinkle

    I just installed Twinkle in my monobook and I'm using Firefox. But nothing has happened. Could someone please explain why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmrox (talkcontribs) 15:07, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You need to click on Ctrl+Shift+R to clear the browser cache! The Helpful One (Talk) (Contributions) 15:11, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Delete redirected page?

    I redirected savanna theory to human evolution. Do I need to delete the savanah theory page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woland37 (talkcontribs) 16:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Hmm...after checking out the talk page, it seems it's been discussed what is should be redirected to. But seen as there is no clear cut consensus, I'd undo the edit, and contact WLU further. — Rudget speak.work 17:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd say no. There is no benefit from deleting the page and you haven't shared any reason that would fit the deletion policy. If you incorporated any of the text from the redirected page in the redirect target, deletion would even be illegal. --Mgm|(talk) 10:37, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    New User

    I want to make a new account to expirience what a new user experiences on WIki. Is there any way that I can do this without being considered a sock puppet? 16:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    An alternative account is a sockpuppet, so there's no way to avoid it. An account like that is allowed, I believe, though I can't find it at WP:SOCK#LEGIT any more. But if an account isn't creating problems, then it will not be scrutinised. The same goes for sockpuppets. x42bn6 Talk Mess 17:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You're pretty new already, aren't you? — Rudget speak.work 17:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Referring to Wikipedia as "Wiki" is a bit of a newb shibboleth. --Teratornis (talk) 18:04, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    There is info at: Wp:sockpuppet#Legitimate_uses_of_alternate_accounts; where it states "prominent users might create a new account to experience how the community functions for new users". --Jon186 (talk) 18:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I've noticed that you if edit certain controversial articles, there is a chance people will call you a "sock" if they disagree with you (like evolution/creation, Israel, etc.). You can also be called a "sock" if you write extremist material. If you write on obscure topics, you will probably be ok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spevw (talkcontribs) 00:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    • It's okay to have a sockpuppet account as long as you don't abuse it by voting twice, or fake more support for an idea or viewpoint than there really is. Using an alternate account to see how newbies are treated is perfectly fine. - Mgm|(talk) 10:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    pictures.

    Please, I can't for the life of me figure out how to post pictures. I see the little button, but I'm not sure how to use it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlicetheDroog (talkcontribs) 17:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Click on the button to the left, "Upload file". Once you filled in all the boxes, it should upload. If you have any other troubles, I could upload it for you. :) — Rudget speak.work 17:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You might also want to check this out before you upload the picture. VivioFateFan (Talk, Sandbox) 20:23, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    problem of format of audio and video files

    the other day i asked the problem which is as followed:

    Hello, this is one poor guy, need your help badly....! coz the format of all the audio and video files is some kid "ogg" and on simple windows media player it doesnot run... we are here for study in cuba, and here the internet is fully restricted' except some sites like wikipedia... now i yearn to learn spanish, there is enough material for begginers in wikibooks' learn french catagory, but the main problem with the french is its pronunciation. here i cant download the extra codecs to listen the audio files given in content. plz do change the format,compatible to simple windows media player so that this poor guy could be able to fullfill his innocent wish. Please.....!


    and i was suggested to download VLC players... and this i tried to do by every mean here.... but COULDN'T! the other one was:

    You should check the file info page. There is a Java program that allows playing such files directly from your browser.


    plz explain this, because i didnt understand where can i catch that "file info page". and how it can help me....

    and plz do also suggest some other wayto do that.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.222.140 (talk) 17:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Media:Example.ogg, a sample sound file that you can use to test.
    If the sound file you're trying to listen to is called "Example.ogg", then the info page for that file is at Image:Example.ogg. If you go to that page, you'll see a button similar to the one at right, which you can click on to play the sound file. For your convenience, I've included that button here for you to see what I'm talking about. If you click on the little blue "i" logo beneath the play button, you'll be brought to the info page for this file. I hope that helps, but please come back if you are still having trouble. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Lost my entry

    I had just finished putting in a new entry, went to save it and got booted out. Any way to find the missing entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonnPulley (talkcontribs) 17:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If you didn't save the page, no, there is no way to access the changes you were making. Sorry. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Help needed to post a transalted article

    I wrote an article "Abortion in Russia" for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_about_abortion_by_country . I mostly use materials from Russian Wiki http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82 Искусственный аборт . I am a new user and it is very difficult for me to figure out how to post and link this article. Can someone please post it?

    Abortion in Russia According to the Basic Law of the Russian Federation on Citizens’ Healthcare ( July 22, 1993), every woman has a right to make decisions regarding her motherhood. Abortion on demand can be performed up to 12 weeks of pregnancy, due to social reasons - up to 22 weeks, and due to medical necessity and upon the woman’s consent – at any point during pregnancy. Abortion can only be performed in licensed institutions (typically hospitals or women’s clinics) and by physicians who have specialized training. According to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (article 123) performing abortion by a person who does not have a medical degree and specialized training, is punishable by fine up to 80,000 RU, or by fine up to 6 months income of the convicted, or by community service from 100h to 240h, or a jail term from 1 to 2 years. In cases when the illegal abortion resulted in the death of the mother or significant harm to her health, the convicted faces a jail term up to 5 years. Despite a significant reduction of the abortion to birth ratio since mid 1990s, the countries of the former USSR maintain the highest rate of abortions in the world. In 2001, in Russia 1,320,000 children were born, while 1,800,000 abortions were performed. [2] In 2005, 1,600,00 abortions were registered in Russia; and 20% of them involved underage mothers. [3] History Prior to the October Revolution of 1917 the Russian law considered abortion a homicide and was punishable by a 4 to 5 year jail term with the loss of civil rights. In 1903 the punishment was reduced to 3 years. Since then a popular demand to eliminate the punishment of the mothers, and to punish only the doctors, was growing. However, the old law effectively remained in force until November 18, 1920, when the Bolshevik’s government issued a Decree on Women’s Healthcare, which provided for free and on demand abortions for the first time in the world. The legalization reduced the fatality of abortions from 4% to 0.28%. [8] On June 27, 1936 the Stalin’s government issued a decree that prohibited abortions, while increasing financial help to mothers, families with multiple children, expanding the availability of obstetrician services and childcare facilities, more strictly enforcing child support obligations, and providing for minor changes in the divorce law. Abortion was allowed only in exceptional cases, such as a severe threat to a mother’s life or health, or upon indication of debilitating hereditary diseases of the parents. Some studies show that the rate of criminal abortions and the number of fatalities skyrocketed during this time. After the Stalin’s death, the prosecution of women for abortions was terminated on August 5, 1954. On November 23, 1955, the ban on abortions was lifted and on demand abortions in medical institution were legalized. This resulted in a significant reduction of women’s deaths during the abortion. Other consequences of this change were a significant growth of the number of abortions and what was widely perceived as discrimination against the reproductive and parental rights of fathers who had no right to interfere with the abortion decision. The new law gave women the leading position in parenthood planning, which changed the gender roles in the family and affected the Soviet society as a whole. [9] The abortion statistic in the USSR was classified until the end of the 1980s. [10] During this period the USSR had one of the highest abortion rates in the world. The abortion rate in the USSR peaked in 1964 when 5.6 mln. abortions were performed, the highest number in Russia’s history. [11] Nevertheless, the legalization of abortions did not fully eliminate criminal abortions [E.A. Sadvokasova].


    1. ↑ http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/234/21178/ 2. ↑ Заявление главного акушера и гинеколога России, директора Научного центра акушерства и гинекологии Владимира Кулакова 3. ↑ http://www.utro.ru/articles/2005/08/23/470519.shtml 4. ↑ Late consequences of abortion. British Medical Journal (Clin Res Ed). 1981 May 16; 282(6276): 1564—1565 5. ↑ Последствия абортов: мнение ученых // Мир православия (перевод статьи с ZENIT.ORG — католического информационного агеснтва США) 6. ↑ Abortion, Motherhood, and Mental Health: Medicalizing Reproduction in the United States and Great Britain (Book Review), British Medical Journal 2004; 328:1022 (24 April) 7. ↑ Ellie Lee. Abortion, Motherhood, and Mental Health: Medicalizing Reproduction in the United States and Great Britain. ISBN 0-202-30681-X 8. ↑ http://slovari.yandex.ru/dict/bse/article/00000/17000.htm 9. ↑ Оценка влияния абортов на семью и общество в статье «Матриархат в СССР» 10. ↑ Рассекреченная статистика числа абортов на 100 живорождений, 1960-2003 СССР-СНГ 11. ↑ Сайт «Демография России» 12. ↑ http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/381/33825/ 13. ↑ http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/254/22925/ 14. ↑ http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/393/34767/ 15. ↑ http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/39/40163/ 16. ↑ http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/614/54504/ 17. ↑ http://www.zerkalo-nedeli.com/nn/show/358/32078/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Walter Tau (talkcontribs) 17:53, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    The pages at Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article should have most of the information you need. Before you begin, please carefully read through our policies and guidelines on notability, citing reliable sources for verification, neutrality, and formatting and article layout, where many new users commonly make mistakes. You may also want to consider checking out what Wikipedia is not, the deletion policy and criteria for speedy deletion so you know specifically what to avoid when writing your article. I hope this helps. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:07, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Looking for work

    i have been watching your program and have noticed that you are looking for people to come and work for you but can not find any info on your web site could you please tell me where to find this info?

    217.171.129.69 (talk) 18:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC).[reply]

    Hmm...erm, you could donate? Not the same thing, but I can't find that link either! :) — Rudget speak.work 18:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were affiliated with the organization the article was about, and comcomitantly thought this help desk was attached to that organization. If I am right, please note that this place is Wikipedia, an online free encyclopedia, and this desk is for questions about using the encyclopedia, so we have no specific information about work opportunities at a particular organization. You might try searching Google for the homesite of the organization. We do have a reference desk for asking knowledge questions, though I donlt think they will be able to help you much with a general employment inquiry at a specific company.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia is owned by Wikimedia, which has a job vacancies page at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings, in case that helps. You may also be interested in local chapters. --Jon186 (talk) 18:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Very few people get paid at Wikipedia. Most people who write here do it so that they can see what they write appear on the internet. Spevw (talk) 00:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    weight a baggage

    hello for plane air asia what is the weigt of baggage ? and for more 15 kg by baggage for price for 1 kilo one more please? email <removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.83.242.123 (talk) 19:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I really don't think that Wikipedia is the place to figure out the weight of baggage. Try the website of the airplace service. ~ Bella Swan 20:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bella Swan (talkcontribs) [reply]
    This is the help desk for the free encyclopedia Wikipedia. Maybe you saw one of our more than 2 million articles, for example AirAsia, and thought we were the help desk for the subject. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The best answer might be from asking Air Asia. Usually if your suitcase is even 1 kg too heavy, they could force you to check it in. If checked luggage is too heavy, you have to pay a fee (most airlines). Spevw (talk) 00:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Archive size

    Greetings, anonymous help desk employee whose assistance I request. I should like to know whether there is any suggested or preferred size for talk page archives. I am under the impression that my archives are too short, and I shouldn't like to have overly numerous subpages; the only existing guidelines about archives that I am aware of provide general tips about breaking archives up thematically. Waltham, The Duke of 20:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't believe that there is a recommended size for archives. It really depends on the amount of discussion you get; maybe 32K is enough for normal users, while a quick canvass of several admin's talkpages shows a preferred archive size of about 100K. It's really up to you. NF24(radio me!) 21:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    "Article size", I've written? I'd better change this. Anyway, my first two archives are 114K and 125K respectively; pretty longer than I remembered, actually.
    This may sound strange, considering my previous question... I should probably split those archives, shouldn't I? Waltham, The Duke of 21:54, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    You might find some relevant information under WP:EIW#Archiv. --Teratornis (talk) 23:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Nothing particularly useful there. I guess I shall try and keep the size of my archives around 100-125K, as they are not supposed to be edited (so there will be no size problem there) and it seems to me to be a good size for research purposes.
    In any case, this Index I had barely noticed before. It is, to use a word I do not utter often, awesome. I am certain that it will help me find information about various things more easily.
    Well, thank you all for the help. I guess there's one thing less to worry about. Waltham, The Duke of 00:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    The Editor's index is still under construction. The author will move it to the project (Wikipedia:) namespace when he "finishes," and we will also add links to it from various entry points into the Wikipedia help, to make it more obvious. I agree that the Editor's index deserves superlatives, both for its own usefulness, and for the underlying body of information it represents. That body of information, by the way, is the continuously mutating answer to the question: "How do we recruit millions of volunteers from every nation, background, and point of view, persuade them to work together to produce the largest encyclopedia in history, and make sure they know what to do in every editing situation that comes up more than once?" --Teratornis (talk) 07:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I archive my talk page by month. Some people do it every 50 discussions, some do it every x kb. There is no right or wrong answer, but if you are worried about creating too much subpages, just use the method that uses least of them. - Mgm|(talk) 10:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    screwed up on posting info

    Hi Wikipedia, I updated an entry for Nicholas Longworth but I screwed up and entered my name in the entry. Can you please tell me how to get my name off of the page?

    Thanks, Jennifer Lekisch —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlekisch (talkcontribs) 23:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You made a signature in [16] by typing ~~~~ (or by clicking a button that does it). Just click "edit this page" at the top of Nicholas Longworth and remove it. Talk pages and this page are supposed to have signatures, but not articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Small bug?

    Hello,

    I want to split my See also into three columns nicely. This is what I have done:

    See also

    The columns are not spaced properly. Is it just me who did a mistake or is there a bug? Thanks. Randomblue (talk) 23:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    If you use the {{Col-3}} templates, it works properly. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    An admin needing help

    Good day, I am a newly appointed admin in the Tagalog Wikibooks which has a very great community - none! Our community their is dead that's why I am going to ask this here. How do you change the text special pages so that I can translate them to the local langauge? Thanks a lot! -- Felipe Aira 23:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

    Try meta:MediaWiki localisation. That will probably contain information you need to get off the ground. Good luck! I've also fixed the wikibooks link; more than one prefix requires a page name. NF24(radio me!) 00:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    December 9

    Another small bug?

    Check out the contents of Constant. The phi doesn't appear in the title of 1.5! I would like it to appear there. Randomblue (talk) 00:08, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    LaTeX (produced with <math> tags), depending on your preferences, usually produces images containing mathematical symbols, but not the characters of the mathematical symbols. Since headers contain text (and not images), the symbol is excluded from the section title in the TOC. To make phi visible in the TOC, I replaced the math tags with φ, the typographical symbol. Similarly, you'd want to replace with α, with δ, etc. Since the typographical representation of these symbols is not as pretty as LaTeX, may I suggest not including the symbols in the section headers (based on that reason)? If you do want them included, however, using characters is the way to do it. GracenotesT § 00:16, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    A question about what constitutes 'promotion'

    My name is Ian Rowland. There is a Wikipedia page about me. I did not create this, ask for this to be created, or have anything to do with the fact that it exists. At the moment it is a stub, and some of the information on it is out of date. Is it all right for me to add extra information and also correct factual or out of date errors? I am concerned that someone might consider this to be self-promotion, which I do understand is not allowed. Although I do have a website that has one trading section, I am not seeking to promote it or to advertise anything. I just thought that since someone has created a site about me, I would like it to be more than a stub and to have accurate, up to date information. Is this allowed? ManYossasarian22 (talk) 00:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Autobiography, and particularly this section. Basically, add and correct the really uncontroversial facts, note the rest on the discussion page, and be sure to engage in discussion with any other editors - hopefully you'll be able to provide the facts, they can provide the neutrality, and you won't have to stay a stub. :) - IMSoP (talk) 01:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (e.c.) Yes. While you are discouraged from creating or editing articles about yourself per the conflict of interest guideline, you may correct factual errors or other violations of the biography policy. NF24(radio me!) 01:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for your replies. 'IMSoP'suggests I should 'note the rest on the discussion page'. So I went and looked up how to get to the discussion page, and it said I click on the 'Discussion' tab. I went back to the page about me and did this, and I got to a page that told me the page about me was a Stub, twice, and didn't seem to provide any input field or any space where I could type anything - at least as far as I could see. IMSoP also says, 'be sure to engage in discussion with any other editors', but I haven't the faintest idea how to 'be sure' of this, or how to comply with this suggestion or directive. How would I know if this discussion were taking place? And where?

    I don't know if this is the sort of arena where anything less than a glowing encomium meets with splenetic invective, but I have to say this, my first taste of trying to deal with Wikipedia and its community, has not been a very happy one. Consider the simplicity of my aim: to correct some out of date misinformation that someone has posted about me. I am as web-savvy as the next guy, but it took me half an hour just to find out the designated appropriate place to raise my initial question. Does nobody think that a simple 'Ask your question here' link or tab would be a nice idea? As opposed to page after linked page after linked page of 'Rules about things you can't do' and 'Things you can't ask about at least not here'. Aslo, although I'm grateful that two people have replied, I don't think I'm really any further forward. (a) the advice I've been given doesn't seem to work unless further gnostic secrets are disclosed unto me [the discussion tab I'm told to use doesn't take me to an input field] and (b) I'm just referred to even more rules and regulations. I've no wish to complain or make unwelcome noises, and I'm prepared for the typical 'Hey, if you don't like the way we do things here, get lost' response that characterises some areas of the internet. Nonetheless, in case anyone cares, that's been my initial taste of Wikipedia. Perhaps future experience will be happier for all parties. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ManYossasarian22 (talkcontribs) 14:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You can click the '+' tab (best for a new section) or "edit this page" at top of Talk:Ian Rowland. Wikipedia has a lot of bad experiences with people who write inappropriately about themselves, so there are rules about that. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Little green and red numbers on your watchlist?

    I was looking at my watchlist the other day and saw a little green number with a plus beside it (something like a +2,134) then further on I saw a another number, except in red with a minus beside it (-123 etc). My question is what they are for? Thanks! Fattyjwoods (talk) 05:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    That's an indication of how much text was added or removed from the article. The number corresponds to the number of bytes - usually the number of characters, but not always, particularly when a template is involved. This page provides more explanation, as well as directions on how to change it if you like. Hersfold (t/a/c) 05:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    creating article

    how do you create an article —Preceding unsigned comment added by CanYouAddUpToThis (talkcontribs) 05:35, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TEB728 (talkcontribs) 06:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Math thing

    How do you use the mathematical formula button? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.232.94.181 (talk) 06:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Math should help you out. It's a bit complicated to explain here. Hersfold (t/a/c) 06:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't seem to get photo on to page

    Sorry. I'm sure this must be a common problem, but I can't seem to find the solution.

    I uploaded a photo provided to me by Dr. Edwin D Kilbourne for a biographical page which I am writing. (I've been gradually extending it as I get more facts of interest.)

    Dr Kilbourne provided me with the photo with the understanding that it would be uploaded onto wikipedia, and I have done so. It seems that I must now get further permission from him, either putting it in the public domain or else allowing its use under GNU or related licensing scheme. I will do so.

    But how do I get the info box reference to image:EdwinDKilbourne.png to actually link to the photo......???????

    RighterofWrongs 06:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

    See Help:Image for examples. However, rather than make a plain link to the image, you should use one of the infoboxes for people, such as {{infobox person}} (or something more specific). You could study similar biography articles about people in the same field as your subject. --Teratornis (talk) 07:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    ...and use the same style of infobox coding as those articles use, I neglected to add. --Teratornis (talk) 07:07, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Moving an article to an existing redirect

    I am sorry, but I can´t figure out how to move Bad trip back to Psychedelic crisis. Thanks, Haiduc (talk) 10:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I ask your rationale for wanting to move it back? Anecdotally, bad trip is the common name for the phenomenon, while psychedelic crisis is not. Google seems to confirm in spades, returning 968 results for the latter and 136,000 results for the former (other searches limited usage to drugs to avoid sentences about traveling, still return massive results). Accordingly, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), bad trip seems to be the better title. In any event, you can request a move at Wikipedia:Requested moves. --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    15th December

    celebrities born on 15th december —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.55.131 (talk) 11:58, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Perhaps our 15th December page will be of use to you? NF24(radio me!) 12:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    And you can find more Wikipedia biographies with this Google search. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    latex

    Hello. What is the difference between , , and ? Thanks, Randomblue (talk) 13:11, 9 December 2007 (UTC). (the second one seems slightly below the others for some reason)[reply]

    Nothing, at least on my computer. All the 's are in line with each other. NF24(radio me!) 13:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Interesting. When rendered in my browser (Opera 9.02) using the 'Recommended for modern browsers' Math setting (Special:Preferences), the last three pis look identical and are rendered as .png images. The first is a text (Unicode?) pi. (Note that it is not the standard HTML &pi; character: π.) To clarify the question for subsequent readers, we're at the difference between the following (LaTeX code → rendered pi):
    • <math>\pi</math> →
    • <math>\pi\,</math> →
    • <math>\pi\;</math> →
    • <math>\pi\!</math> →
    Is there a specific meaning for the comma/semicolon/bang in this context in LaTeX? TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing Wikipedia page about my father, Alexander Ulanovsky. Tried to edit it, but my corrections disappeared together with the original text. (Maya Ulanovskaya, E-mail address: <email removed>)

    <text of article removed>—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.68.25.153 (talk) 13:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you want these edits merged into the article? Jake the Editor Man (talk) 13:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    For your own protection, please do not post your email address on highly visible pages such as this. The text you attempted to add to the article is already in its history so there is no need to post it here. Normally, one would not add the text of a rewrite below the existing article as you did, but replace the existing text with the new. In your case, however, you should suggest the text of any changes to the article's talk page, (which is here), because you have a conflict of interest in editing the article. Every suggestion should be backed up by identification of reliable sources which verify the change (your rewrite contained no sources whatever). I do not know what happened on your second edit, but somehow you blanked the article's text entirely. I have reverted the article back to its preexisting state.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) I was going to say exactly the same thing :-) Astronaut (talk) 13:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    My userpage broke

    I was trying to place the hiding div for my userboxes on my userpage, but there is one section that refuses to work. I would appreciate it if someone had a look at it.

    Here is the code that has broken:

    <div class="NavFrame" style="padding:0;border-style:none;">
    <div class="NavFrame" style="border-style:none;padding:0;">
    <div class="NavHead" style="background:#EDF1F1;text-align:left;text-style:normal">
    About my [[house|location]] and [[Time zones|time]]
    </div><div class="NavContent" style="display:none;">
    {{User EU}}
    {{User EU citizen}}
    {{Proud EU}}
    {{User UK}}
    {{user United Kingdom}}
    {{user British citizen}}
    {{User England}}
    {{User Essex}}
    {{User Wivenhoe}}
    {{User time zone|UTC|clock}}
    {{User dst 1}}
    {{user date}}
    {{User:HokieRNB/userboxes/visit|Chile}}
    {{User:UserBox/User Earthling}}
    {{User Earthling3}}
    {{User:EVula/Userboxes/countries visited|8}}
    </div></div></div>
    

    if anyone can go over and have a peek at it, or tell me the problem, that would be greatly appreciated. Jake the Editor Man (talk) 13:19, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    can't edit page to include uploaded image thumbnail

    I uploaded a photo of brian cherney no problem Brian-Cherney_in_2007.jpg‎ (200 × 240 pixels, file size: 18 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg) I have not been able to edit his page to include my photo as a thumbnail. The page now looks like this below. instead of the image there is this text followed by the original article. I have a lot of images of Canadian composers. Help me here please, and I can contribute a lot. Thanks. Stingdin

    Image:Brian-Cherney_in_2007.jpg‎ (200 × 240 pixels, file size: 18 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg)|Caption1

    Brian Cherney (born 1942, Peterborough, Ontario) is a Canadian composer currently residing in Montréal, Quebec. He studied at the University of Toronto where he was a pupil of John Weinzweig. In 1972 he joined the Faculty of Music at McGill University, where he has taught analysis and composition for over thirty years. His pieces, often characterized by carefully calculated formal trajectories and a rich harmonic language, give the impression of a quiet intensity, usually featuring "stillness" in some manner. His works have been played throughout North America, Europe, and elsewhere. Cherney maintains an active career as a composer, teacher and author; his book Harry Somers (1975, U of T Press) remains one of the most important and detailed works of reference on this composer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingdin (talkcontribs) 13:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I have fixed the image link for you. If you edit the article, you will see the proper wiki markup for the image. Dismas|(talk) 13:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for this, Dismas, and for "ish kabibble"Stingdin (talk) 15:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Supreme Court Justices

    What are the ages of our current supreme court justices? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.17.6.188 (talk) 15:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm in a helpful mood today, so instead of shuttling you over to the Reference Desk, I'll answer here. You really should ask these questions over there, though.
    • Roberts-52
    • Stevens-87
    • Scalia-71
    • Kennedy-71
    • Souter-68
    • Thomas-59
    • Ginsburg-74
    • Breyer-69
    • Alito-57

    This and more information can be found at U.S. Supreme Court. NF24(radio me!) 15:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict) That depends what you mean by "our". If it refers to USA (people who don't name a country on the Internet and assume everybody knows what they talk about are often from USA) then see Supreme Court of the United States#Current membership. If it's another country then the information may be in Category:National supreme courts. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - And I also guess NF24 is from USA. ;-) PrimeHunter (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Either that or he has a good IP lookup. Dr.K. (talk) 15:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Dr. K would be right - but I do live in the USA. NF24(radio me!) 16:00, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Immigration

    I used this reference for school. Need the author's name for my bibliography . Cant find author's name. Please help