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Visual Editor

Resolved

 – Adam ^{talk - contribs} 21:47, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

How do I disable the Visual Editor? I really don't like it - I've been coding and using HTML for years and editing the source just feels more natural to me. I always click "edit source" but for some reason it doesn't always display and I have to open visual editor first, then go in to edit source. Adam ^{talk - contribs} 19:43, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Adi sco 93: Preferences -> Editing -> Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta. --Majora (talk) 19:54, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I was looking under Gadgets and Beta, didn't think to look under Editing. Adam ^{talk - contribs} 21:47, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

January 12

Légion d'honneur recipients

DOCUMENTATION ON FRENCH LEGION OF HONOR RECEIPIANT (MY BLACK GRANDFATHER JOHN T. VAN RENSALIER)

Results: "List of Légion d'honneur recipients by name Vigneault Jean-Félix-Albert-Marie Vilnet, Catholic Bishop and Council Father at Vatican II Galina Vishnevskaya John T. Van Rensalier, 150 US Battalion Headquarters 39 KB (4,407 words) - 23:36, 4 January 2016"

BUT WHEN I GOT TO THE LIST... HE IS NOT LISTED.

please help!!!!!!

Dolores Van Rensalier

I assume you are referring to List of Légion d'honneur recipients by name. The list does not aim to be complete. As it says in the paragraph at the top, "the number is estimated at one million". Maproom (talk) 00:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

However, Rensalier is listed when you click on the "V" in the white box (or scroll down manually). Don't click on the "V" in the blue box, as that link leads to a different, even more incomplete, list. Those lists are a bit of a mess and could use some re-organization (as mentioned on the list's talkpage). GermanJoe (talk) 00:06, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

So he is! I missed that, as he was right at the end of the Vs, out of alphabetical order. I have re-ordered the Vs (putting John T. Van Rensalier next to Ninette de Valois, which worries me a bit – I guess WP has guidelines somewhere on alphabetising compound surnames). As you say, the lists are a mess. Maproom (talk) 08:31, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Roger Morgan (designer)

Reference help requested.

Thanks, TheatreSmart (talk) 04:53, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Your stray unterminated <ref> tag on 27 March 2014 was corrected the following day. The problem with an unterminated ref is that the rest of the text following it is regarded as part of the ref, so doesn't get displayed properly. Note that, even if correctly formatted, the ref wouldn't have been valid as it pointed merely to the index page of a database, not to any page which specifically supported the statement made. Welcome back after your long break from editing! --David Biddulph (talk) 05:09, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Creating a page for a person

Hi how do I create a page for a person? Regards Jo — Preceding unsigned comment added by AngelCake1111 (talk • contribs)

Hello, Jo. You create an article about a person the same way as you create any other encyclopaedia article: by assembling high quality independent published sources which talk at length about that person, and write an article based almost entirely on what those independent sources have said about the person. (If you cannot find such independent sources about them, then they are probably not notable in Wikipedia's special sense, and no article about them will be acceptable, however it is written). For the details of how to proceed, please read your first article; and I strongly suggest that you use the article wizard to create a draft which you can work on and then submit for review. I would also, personally, suggest that you spend some time editing existing articles before you embark on the difficult task creating a new one. --ColinFine (talk) 13:50, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Rachael Lillis (Faragonda winx)

Hi, Rachael Lillis say it that she was Faragonda in winx. Vut how can it that her voice don't like same with her normal voice?! I don't believe that she was.--Maxie1hoi (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi there, and thank you for asking your question. This page is about how to edit wikipedia. It appears your question is disputing the accuracy of Rachael Lillis being the voice-actor for Faragonda. While I am not authoritative in this specific area, multiple third-party sources confirm that she is the voice for Faragonda. Tiggerjay (talk) 17:41, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Charles 'Kid' Keinath

This is my great grandfather. I inherited hundreds of primary source documents (newspaper articles, magazine clippings, Photos, letter, etc.) The current wiki description, while accurate is very brief and lacks a great amount of pertinent detail around his life, and accomplishments in sports. For instance it was "because of his great proficiency with the double dribble that this rile was changed". I have several sources to cite for that assertion alone.

I am wondering if i may submit a more comprehensive update and/or whole narrative. If so, what is the process? I can provide any supporting documents necessary at any time as well.

thank you for your consideration. Bart Keinath — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.222.100.210 (talk) 18:36, 12 January 2016‎ (UTC)

Hi 170.222.100.210, welcome to Wikipedia! If you want to edit the page, go ahead and do so! Just remember to cite your writing to reliable sources. I would suggest you read WP:REFB as a great tutorial on referencing. (Just note that primary sources on their own may not be OK all the time, see WP:PRIMARY). Also, as the article subject is your relative, please be aware that this may be a conflict of interest (COI), if you stay neutral in your edits and make everything verifiable, this probably won't be a problem, see WP:SIMPLECOI for another great page on this issue. I know that this may be a bit overwhelming, so if you need any help or clarification, ask a question on your talk page with a {{help me}} template. Thanks.  Seagull123  Φ  18:53, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

The article in question is Charles Keinath. Please discuss on the article talk page, Talk: Charles Keinath. By the way, what you describe as primary sources, such as newspaper articles, are considered by Wikipedia to be secondary sources and so are acceptable. Letters may not be acceptable. Please discuss on the talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:58, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hello, Bart. The answer is that you are very welcome to provide more information, but because of your conflict of interest, you are discouraged from editing the article directly. Instead, you are invited to make suggestions on the article's talk page Talk:Charles Keinath - pick the '+' or 'new section' at the top to create a new section of the talk page for your suggestion. Essentially you will be asking an uninvolved editor to check your suggestion for appropriateness, so the easier you make it for them, the more likely somebody is to come along and edit the article. In particular:

1. be specific: suggest some actual wording. If the other editor thinks that it is not neutral enough, they may change it, but if you've given them something to work with, rather than "It should mention X,Y,Z somewhere", it makes it easier for them.
2. give a published source for any information you want to add. Ideally, every single piece of information in a Wikipedia article should be cited to a reliable published source. Your newspaper cuttings will be ideal, provided you have sufficient bibliographic detail that a reader could in principle find the source, say in a major library: the title of the newspaper, where it was published, and the date, would be enough. Unpublished information, whether from your scrapbook, or your own knowledge, cannot be used - though you might be able to find confirmation of some of it somewhere on line.

Because there may not be many people looking at that talk page, I suggest adding {{edit request}} (with the double curly brackets) to your suggestion: this will bring it to the attention of more editors.

If you look at Talk:Bradford Playhouse you will see where I made a request of that sort because I had a conflict of interest. (I put my suggested text on another page, and linked to it, rather than putting it directly on the talk page, but that is of no consequence: I could just as well have put the suggestion on the talk page itself.) --ColinFine (talk) 19:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

ColinFine's advice is (in my opinion) better than mine, I think you won't go far wrong if you follow Colin's help.  Seagull123  Φ  19:12, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Deletion Question About Poshter Girl (2016)

I am here rather than at the Teahouse because I am not asking for advice for an inexperienced editor, who isn't seeking advice anyway, but for myself. I reviewed Draft: Poshter Girl when it was in draft space, and declined it. The author then removed my decline notice and moved the article to WP:Poshter Girl. I then nominated it for deletion at Miscellany for Deletion. The consensus is running in favor of deletion. The author then made edits to the article that don't address the basic film notability question that unreleased movies are seldom notable unless they have had extensive press discussion prior to release. The author removed the MFD template and moved it into article space as Poshter Girl (2016). My question is: Does the MFD continue running, and it is now at day 7, or does the move into article space negate the MFD, so that it needs to be taken to Articles for Deletion from the start? Robert McClenon (talk) 19:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Also, there are warning templates for removing CSD templates and for removing AFD templates, but not for removing MFD templates. I warned the author for removing an AFD template, figuring that is close enough. Do other editors agree? Robert McClenon (talk) 19:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

You made an error by nominating it at MFD, but not at AFD. You should have moved it to the main space and then started an AFD. However, the deletion request continues to run with or without the template on the article. I think it is advisable to move this discussion to AFD. Ruslik_Zero 20:32, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Why are you saying that I made a mistake in nominating it at MFD? Are you suggesting that a non-notable draft that is disrupting the AFC process should be moved into article space before being nominated for deletion? That seems to go against common sense. I will nominate it at AFD, but if the MFD is closed and results in its deletion, the AFD will become moot. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:09, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

It was in the Wikipedia space when you nominated it, not in the draft space anymore. The author wanted to move it into the main space but moved to the Wikipedia space. Ruslik_Zero 19:38, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Need help changing pagename

I have located an error in the pagename "The Proud and the Damned", but I've failed at several attempts to correct it. The correct title should be "The Proud and Damned".— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.48.198.83 (talk • contribs)

 Done@50.48.198.83: I've moved the page to The Proud and Damned. To be able to do it, you need an account that's at least 4 days old and has 10 edits. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:44, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

@Joseph2302: The cover image of the film shows that the name is The Proud and the Damned. You can see the word "the" before the word "damned." --Majora (talk) 20:45, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

@Majora: I did not see that, woops. Hastily requesting a move back to The Proud and the Damned, which needs admin help. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 20:49, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

But note that IMDB does refer to it as The Proud and Damned... _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 20:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Just another reason why IMDB is not a reliable source (I was trying to see if it was possible to change the IMDB name but I don't really want to create an account there so meh) --Majora (talk) 20:57, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, but if you look at other box covers on IMDB's page, you'll see that it is also titled without the "the". So, I guess someone would actually have to watch the movie to see that the film says?? Dismas|^(talk) 21:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

@50.48.198.83, Majora, UkPaolo, and Dismas: I've started a requested move, although I'm personally on the fence about it (due to it not being my area of expertise). Joseph2302 (talk) 22:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Now that it has been moved to the correct title, it desperately needs some WP:RS to establish notability.--ukexpat (talk) 02:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

The correct title is obvious, as is clearly displayed in the opening of the original film, "The Proud and Damned". No question about it. Is it an issue of common usage, even if it's inaccurate? Seems to me accuracy should trump. Sorry for being so ignorant about Wiki policy and procedure. Thanks for you patience and help everyone.

Copyright question

Answers to Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems#Copy_headwords_from_a_dictionary are welcome. Iceblock (talk) 20:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Book= Solar System - Rendering Failed (two separate days)

From the article on Pluto I followed the links at the bottom of the article to the listed Wikipedia Books. I received the following error at 36.67% trying to render the Wikipedia Book: Solar System to both an A4 and Letter sized PDF.

I was able to successfully render and download a PDF (Letter) of the Wikipedia Book: Dwarf Planets of the Solar System & Their Satellites (210 pages).

I did also follow the link to PediaPress, and generated (uploaded), customized, and was able to preview the Wikipedia Book: Solar System without issue. I did not order that because the ~1210 page (2 volumes) Hard Back & Color book would cost $144.10. I am remembering this is an option to downloading a PDF.

Thank you, John Cogar

Johncogar139 (talk) 21:25, 12 January 2016 (UTC)johncogar139

@Johncogar139: That happened to me too - same error and everything. I'm not sure what's wrong, but I would suggest asking at the technical village pump. The editors there will probably understand this sort of stuff a bit more. Another editor here might be able to help though. (Sorry this hasn't been much help). I'll put a note at that village pump asking for some input here though.  Seagull123  Φ  23:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

There's been some answers about this query over at WP:VPT, I've copied them below just in case you haven't seen them, Johncogar139.

Going by Help:Books and Help:Books/Feedback, the book creator is quite broken for many cases. Broken to the extent that someone created a template, {{Bookcreatorstatus}}, to warn about it:

Status last updated 23 August 2020.

The biggest immediate issue is that it doesn't appear to give any web-visible diagnostics to help investigate what it is choking on.

--Murph9000 (talk) 01:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

The inability to diagnose / debug errors is covered in phab:T94308#1549095. As cscott explained in phab:T100979#1463646 he basically has no time allocated by his employer (the Wikimedia Foundation) to work on Offline Content Generator issues, which is a pity. --Malyacko (talk) 14:35, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

— Originally posted at WP:VPT, on 13 January 2016 (UTC) in WP:VPT#Book:Solar system not rendering

-- Seagull123  Φ  18:18, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

This error was in at least one case due to the use of foreign-language characters for which book creator did not have a font. There is more about this incident here. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 11:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Most Wikipedia pages have a "Download as PDF" link in the left hand navigation menu. The PDF generator for a single page hits the same font issue but gives a more specific error message. You can work through the pages in the book, opening each and building its PDF in turn (no need to download afterwards), to see which page/s crash and why. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 11:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

January 13

How to edit the PageName

Hi, I can't find any edit function to change the PageName on Eighth United States Army. Would you please change the title as 'Eighth Army (United States)'? Eighth Army doesn't use the 'Eighth United States Army' anymore. It is wrong name. If you visit their official website(8tharmy.korea.army.mil/), you can recognize what is a correct name.

Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinson.kim (talk • contribs)

@Chinson.kim: In order to rename an article, you need to move it. Moving an article can only be performed by autoconfirmed users, that is users who have been a member for at least four days, have made at least ten edits and have confirmed their email address. Please note, however, the move you are proposing may be controversial as it would break consistency. See the following articles (a brief list of examples):

First United States Army, Second United States Army, Seventh United States Army, Ninth United States Army, Tenth United States Army

--Adam ^{talk - contribs} 03:38, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Confirming an email address is not a requirement for autconfirmed status, see WP:AUTOC.--ukexpat (talk) 03:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ukexpat: My apologies, I assumed from the name it was a requirement. I confirmed my email when I signed up for my account and assumed when I became autoconfirmed it was one of the requirements. --Adam ^{talk - contribs} 04:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Indeed it probably would be controversial: According to the move log it was intentionally moved the other way. —teb728 t c 05:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

The name used for a Wikipedia article should be whatever its subject usually called. For example, the article on the country is United Kingdom, rather than its official name. Maproom (talk) 14:08, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

is it okay to put links to Spotify in a discography page?

Is there any problem with putting links to Spotify in a discography page?

E.g., put a link to the Spotify recording of an album next to (or immediately below, etc.) the album title in the Wikipedia discography page for that artist or band.

If this is okay, is there a particular format that should be used?

Thanks for reading/responding.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdquirke (talk • contribs)

@Jdquirke: That would not be allowed, as that would be spamming. Mlpearc (open channel) 02:35, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Mlpearc: Thanks, but could you please elaborate? I visited the link you cited and do not see how this would qualify as any of the 3 types of spam mentioned there ("advertisements masquerading as articles; external link spamming; and adding references with the aim of promoting the author or the work being referenced"). Jdquirke (talk) 05:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Jdquirke: Because Spotify is a commercial website, any links to a commercial site are considered spam. Maybe @Drmies: or @Materialscientist: (or anyone) could help explain further. Mlpearc (open channel) 17:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Mlpearc: What's the basis for the blanket statement that "any links to a commercial site are considered spam?" I don't see anything that broad at the Wikipedia spam page. Jdquirke (talk) 18:21, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

• We've allowed (in GAs and FAs too, I suppose) links to Amazon, for instance, to verify such things as catalog numbers and release dates. I've done it on Terry Riley: Cadenza on the Night Plain and a bunch of others; it's the last couple of references in that article. I don't like giving such links, but sometimes that's all you got. Spam problems arise in two ways. One, if it's clearly an attempt to move people toward the commercial site. That's hard to judge, of course, but sometimes it's clear. Two, and this is related, if the site in question focuses on the selling more than on the informationproviding. Amazon isn't so bad; iTunes, IMO, is worse, delivering less information and more sales opportunities. K-pop and J-pop articles do it in the worst way possible. Anyway, Spotify--don't you have to log in to get anything in the first place? I don't see the kind of pages for albums etc. that Amazon has: all I see is Sign up. If you have to sign up to get the information you want verified by Spotify, it's pretty much useless for a lot of people even if the info on Spotify is good. Drmies (talk) 18:51, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Pippa Middleton

Please check ref number 5 on this page - and also if you can, please check the last 3 refs added on this page- are they OK Thanks so much 101.182.146.167 (talk) 06:41, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Fixed the link in publisher parameter error. If the refs queried are those for James Matthews/Eden Rock the Telegraph is ok, the other 2 may not be quite WP:RS. Eagleash (talk) 06:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Removing "unreviewed" tag

I asked this on 2015 December 31 and the problem still is not solved. Neither have I received an answer to my question. If someone knows the answer, please help out (not just removing the "unreviewed" titles but answering my question in view of future incidents: Is it permissible for me to remove the "unreviewed" sign after hearing from editors that they have reviewed my article?
I have archived notices that my following articles have been reviewed, but all of these still have the "unreviewed" tag on them:
Cristo Rey Jesuit High School Milwaukee
Cristo Rey Dallas College Prep
Arrupe College, Harare
Loyola Academy, Chennai
St. Xavier's School, Behror
St. Xavier's College, Ahmedabad
May I remove the tages since I received a "reviewed" notice on all of these?Jzsj (talk) 09:17, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

The template does say "The template should be removed manually by any editor except the person who created the page ...", so that seems to say that you shouldn't remove it yourself. By what means did you receive the notification that the pages had been reviewed? Presumably not on your user talk page? Where have you archived these notices? I guess that the sensible thing is to reply to the person who has told you that they've reviewed the page and remind them that they should remove the template. Perhaps another editor can point us at any specific instructions to editors about the reviewing process? (I can see a process for reviewing edits on articles with pending changes protection and one for reviewing pending articles through the AFC processes, but not one for reviewing newly created articles.) --David Biddulph (talk) 10:53, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jzsj! The type of reviewing being talked about here is the reviewing done with the Page Curation tool, and there is a way to check if a page has been reviewed using that tool. Go to one of the pages, click "View history", and then right below the title on the history page click "view logs for this page". For example, here's the log for Cristo Rey Dallas College Prep: [1]. That page has indeed been reviewed by a user other than the page creator, so I don't see anything wrong with you removing it. Please note, however, that not all of your articles (at my time of writing) *have* been reviewed: this one for example, so you should not remove that tag just yet. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 20:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Howicus! Thanks for the answer to my question. I'm away from home now but when I return to my notes at home I'll recheck the Notifications page where I thought I found the notifications on all these reviews archived. I have removed the "unreviewed" tags where the logs justified it.Jzsj (talk) 22:24, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.184.187.72 (talk) 10:03, 13 January 2016‎ (UTC)

The first error message says: "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page)", and the words "help page" are in blue to indicate that they are a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input, and the other says "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page)", with the help page link to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

traduction d'une petite lettre du francais a l'hebreu merci

messieurs vous avez retire de l'argent sur ma carte Visa leumi pendant des mois sans mon autorisation,pour des programmes que je n'ai jamais demande sur mon telephone aussi j'ai annule a ma banque mon compte et mes cartes Visa leumi pour vous dire que aujourd'hui il vous faudra me rembourser totalement le prejudice commis a mon encontre je ne paierais pas mon telephone tant que je n'aurais pas obtenu mon remboursement de ces fautes graves qui sont attribues a des vols purs et simples Sinon,je mettrai mon dossier entre les mains de la justice par l'intermediaire de mon Avocat voila pour un premier avertissement merci beaucoup pour la traduction

S'il vous plaît noter que ce site est Wikipedia en langue anglaise, une encyclopédie libre en ligne que tout le monde peut modifier, et cette page est seulement pour poser des questions liées à l'utilisation ou de contribuer à Wikipedia. Nous regrettons de ne pas fournir un service de traduction, sauf pour contribuer à Wikipedia elle-même: Noyster (talk), 13:49, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Translation of a small letter of the Hebrew has french thank you

Roughly translated

Gentlemen you withdraw money on my Visa Leumi for months without my permission for programs that I have never asked my phone I was also canceled my bank Visa My Account and Leumi Card to tell you that Today you will have to pay me totally committed to my prejudice against I would not pay my phone as I could not get my refund of these errors which are attributed to severe outright flights Otherwise, I will put my case in the hands of justice through the intermediary of my Lawyer for here is a first warning thank you very much for the translation

Please note that this website is Wikipedia in English, a free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is only for ask questions related to the use or contribute to Wikipedia. We regret not to provide translation services, except for contributing to Wikipedia itself

Translated by: Google & Mlpearc (open channel) 18:01, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Eden Rock, St Barths

ref number 5 is all wrong - thanks for your help101.182.146.167 (talk) 13:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

As usual, the error message is clear. It says " Check date values in: |access-date= (help)", & the "help" wikilink is to Help:CS1_errors#bad date. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:18, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I am confused! The date seems fine to me (sorry for my confusion) why is there the red writing? Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk) 13:28, 13 January 2016‎ (UTC)

If you think that "14 January 21066" is a valid date, you are definitely confused. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Changed to 13 January 2016...Jokulhlaup (talk) 13:45, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Grammar

Am I correct by saying It's with the apostrophe in my recent edits on the Eden Rock, St Barths page ? Thanks for your help 101.182.146.167 (talk) 13:30, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

No. "It's" is short for "it is". The possessive pronoun "its" has no apostrophe. Rojomoke (talk) 13:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Please help me with the Eden Rock, St Barths page Is this grammar (use of apostrophes) correct?: The resort's owner is also its artist-in-residence 101.182.146.167 (talk) 13:42, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Uh, Rojomoke already answered this. No it's its. To expand slightly on the answer, anytime you see it's, and question its use, say to yourself: "would it is make sense here instead of it's?" If not, the apostrophe is wrong.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:57, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

University of Leeds

ref 73 is faulty - I did not do this mistake. Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.146.167 (talk • contribs)

I've fixed it. Note that right next to the red error message was a blue link for the word "help" that went to a help page targeted to the error and explaining how to fix it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:07, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Redirected or deleted article?

Can't find an article for former beauty queen Marina Harrison. The page now redirects to Miss Maryland USA page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Harrison Help? Thanks.

The article was turned into a redirect on 25 December 2015 with an edit summary "not notable outside the win so per NOPAGE" which refers to our guideline WP:NOPAGE.
People only famous for one thing, such as winning a beauty pageant, often do not have their own page, but entering their name into Wikipedia will redirect you to an article on what they were famous for.
If you think Marina Harrison merits her own page, you could discuss this with User:Legacypac, who turned the article into a redirect, but I note that that editor is currently blocked for "persistent disruptive editing", so you might do better to explain your reasoning here. - Arjayay (talk) 15:18, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Clinton

This is not a complaint about Fox News but I was just wondering why Politicians continue to complain about the costs associated with the Benghazi Investigation when there is never a dollar amount discussed in reference to locating the Clinton emails - emails that should have already been part of the public record!

As it states on the edit screen "This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions" - do you have such a question? - Arjayay (talk) 15:05, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

General knowledge questions may be asked at the Reference Desks; however, this does not appear to be a general knowledge question but a request for an opinion, and those are not appropriate for the Reference Desks either (and are likely to be viewed as trolling). Robert McClenon (talk) 21:41, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

New article - Michal Cander: polish artist

Helllo, Could I ask you for check my new article which I have added. I saved it as a draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Micha%C5%82_Cander

The new article is an English version of first article which was created in polish: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_Cander

Thank you in advance for your support! ZBIK89 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zbik89 (talk • contribs) 15:39, 13 January 2016‎ (UTC)

I have looked at it, and tidied up the grammar, linking, etc. From the draft, it seems that his main claim to notability is that he has painted a "portrait" of a possibly fictitious person. I find this unconvincing as evidence of notability. Maproom (talk) 16:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for our reply. I know that my gramma is not really good :-) The portrait of Satoshi was the first visualization of ficitous person. This painting is well known in Bitcoin societity. Moreover, artist is famous in Poland. His paintings are recognizable in Poland. Mr Cander is respected painter in polish art community. He is a son of Krzysztof Cander, one of the most popular Polish painters in XX century.

Could you advice me what should I do with the article to make it more "encyclopedic" ? Should I find some more links, or should I add more information about prizes? I think that Wikipedia will be vared if we add article about Mr Cander in Eglish version.

I think that what the article needs most is one or two more independent references that establish his notability by writing about him. I have failed to find anything in English, but references to published Polish books, newspapers etc. would be acceptable. Maproom (talk) 17:04, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for information. I very much appreciate your comments. I hope I will make the article better.

Dear @Maproom, I have write more in my draft about M.Cander. Please have a look. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Micha%C5%82_Cander — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zbik89 (talk • contribs) 14:53, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Help: How do I define my identity so I can edit an article on "Herbert Gutman"?

How do I define my identity so I can edit an article on "Herbert Gutman"? I am the cofounder with Gutman of the American Social History Project and made some minor edits in the Gutman entry.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevebrier (talk • contribs) 16:48, 13 January 2016‎ (UTC)

I have removed the comment tags around the text in your question to make it visible, & added the signature which you forgot. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Your identity isn't any help to Wikipedia in the matter of sourcing information. Your edits (which I have reverted) seemed to be suggesting that your personal knowledge counted as a reliable source for the purpose of referencing, but it would count as original research. What Wikipedia needs as sourcing is something that has already been published by reliable independent sources, so that it can be verified. The only extent to which your identity is relevant is that if you are discussing a subject with which you have had a close involvement the guidance on conflict of interest comes into play. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Steve. I'm not sure quite what you mean by "define your identity", but I'm guessing that you think that by establishing that you are connected with the subject of the article this will give you permission to edit it. I'm afraid that Wikipedia doesn't work like that, and in fact roughly the opposite is true. Anybody in the world can edit (nearly) any article; but if you are closely associated with the subject of an article you are discouraged from editing that, because your possible conflict of interest may make it difficult for you to edit it in a sufficiently neutral way. As it says in the link I just included, what you are invited to do is to post any suggested changes on the article's talk page - preferably with citation to independent reliable published sources for the information. Please note that unpublished information, whether documentary (eg letters) or from your personal knowledge, is not acceptable as a source for Wikipedia articles, and if a piece of information is not backed up by a reliable published source, it should not be in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:05, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

New article - Skulpt : fitness device

Hi! Can you please check a new article I have written, particularly the references. Not sure if I have done something wrong but i am getting error messages on each of the retrieval dates. I am following same format as previous articles and had no issues previously Many Thanks - link to article Skulpt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garymonk (talk • contribs) 16:53, 13 January 2016‎ (UTC)

Thanks - looks good now :-)

Garymonk (talk) 18:40, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

How to define my identity so I can edit Wikipedia entry

I am trying to do minor edits to an entry ("Herbert Gutman"). Apparently I need to define my identity, but I'm unclear how to do that on Wikipedia. Steve Brier ("Stevebrier")

@Stevebrier: What do you mean, exactly "How do I define my identity" ? Mlpearc (open channel) 17:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

This is a duplicate, probably because Stevebrier accidentally put the text inside an HTML comment the first time. See two items above. ColinFine (talk) 17:14, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

No-one has asked you to "define your identity". You have been told, correctly, that personal knowledge is not acceptable here as a source of information, as you apparently believed when you type "<ref name = "Stevebrier" />". That form of reference is used in Wikipedia, but only when the name has been defined, preferably as a reference to a published work, in a previous reference in the same article. Maproom (talk) 17:19, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

If you know any authors who have published books about a topic, then you can cite their book as a reference. Dbfirs 18:14, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

As a slight clarification, any such books need to be properly edited and published by a reputable publisher, some Wikipedia editors try to use self-published and other non-reliable "published" sources - often written by themselves - these are NOT acceptable. - Arjayay (talk) 20:43, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I should have made that distinction. Dbfirs 00:40, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

page

How could I do a page on someone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank w Reid (talk • contribs)

@Frank w Reid: I've left a welcome message on your talk page which should help answer this question. Dismas|^(talk) 18:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Yale Materials Handling Corporation Information

Could someone please edit this page Yale_Materials_Handling_Corporation to remove the last sentence, AND remove the NACCO Industries list of subsidiaries at the bottom of the page since they have nothing to do with Yale any longer. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.219.241.154 (talk • contribs)

Done - has been changed in the meantime by a new account. I have also removed the 2 involved companies from the underlying navigation template. However, this fact, and the whole article, could use some independent reliable sources to verify its information, and to establish the company's notability. GermanJoe (talk) 19:33, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

That article should be merged with and redirected to NACCO Industries because it does not appear to be independently notable.--ukexpat (talk) 20:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Template parameter resolution

Resolved

When I gave someone a barnstar, I simply copied the content of the "What to type" column from Wikipedia:Barnstars, as intended. But to my surprise, my whole message just got displayed as "{{{1}}}" - in other words, parameter 1 was unresolved. As usual, the solution was explicit parameter assignment, in this case, prefixing the message with "1=".

To prevent others from running into this problem, I want to insert the "1=" prefix in the the "What to type" column. However, that column uses two templates, {{Tlxs}} and {{Tlsp}}, which of course assume that the "1=" is meant for them. The workaround given is to escape the "=" with "&61;". Unfortunately, that doesn't get replaced by the "=" sign: {{subst:The Original Barnstar|1#61;message ~~~~}} How can I make an "=" sign appear? — Sebastian 19:41, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@SebastianHelm: Try adding "2=", since you are trying to place an equals sign within the second unnamed parameter of the {{tlxs}} template: {{subst:The Original Barnstar|1=message ~~~~}} [look at the coding] -- John of Reading (talk) 19:53, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Ah, great idea! Thanks a lot! — Sebastian 20:10, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Your first attempt failed because the html entity is not &61; but =: {{subst:The Original Barnstar|1=message ~~~~}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:26, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Tracking categories

Do you know maybe why is an article or category (page) added to each of the tracking categories? Can you thoroughly explain, for example, when is an article added to Category:Commons category with local link different than on Wikidata when to Category:Commons category with page title different than on Wikidata and how to remove it from those categories? When is it added to Category:Commons category without a link on Wikidata, and why is it not added to Category:Commons category with local link same as on Wikidata? I localised template to sr but categories that should be full are empty and vice versa. I would like to see explanation on a raw example... --Obsuser (talk) 23:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Why is 2016 placed in Category:Commons category with page title different than on Wikidata when pagename (2016) is not different than on Wikidata (I don’t even know different from what: category name for sr, or pagename...) --Obsuser (talk) 23:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I altered your category links to be readable. The {{cl}} template is very useful for that, but only works within this Wikipedia. To your first question: I see that you asked that at Template talk:Commons category, which seems an excellent place to ask, but you removed it again. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:56, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

{{commons category}} compares {{#property:P373}} against {{PAGENAME}} or against {{{1}}}. No doubt your answer lies there. I don't know what {{#property:P373}} is.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Property:P373 in Wikidata is Commons category. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

It may be an issue with Wikidata properties for Wikipedia languages with script variants like Serbian and Chinese. I tried to preview this code in different Wikipedia editions of 2016:

{{#property:P373}} and 2016 are {{#ifeq:{{#property:P373}}|2016|equal|not equal}}

I don't work in languages with script variants but I would naively have expected {{#property:P373}} to always return the same four-character string "2016" from wikidata:Q25245#P373, and always produce "equal" in the above code. At sr:2016 and zh:2016年 it says "2016 and 2016 are not equal". In all other tested languages it says "2016 and 2016 are equal". I don't know what to do about it. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:34, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

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@Redrose64: Which "category links" you altered? I posted there first time but problem is not only related to that template but {{#property:P373}} i.e. Wikidata and Commons.

@PrimeHunter: Can you try to figure out why it is not possible to form wikiling using {{#property:P373}}? [[{{#property:P373}}]] and [[{{#property:P373}}|text]] returns [[value of {{#property:P373}}]] and [[value of property {{#property:P373}}|text]], respectively. Link cannot be formed and square brackets remain where they are, so I had to make link to Commons using external https:// link, not wikilink. I guess this can be helpful to resolve this if resolvable.

Could you "filter" somehow {{#property:P373}}’s output using other template or module so it is converted into plain text? It would be impossible then for "2016" to be different from "2016".

And generally: When is an article (raw examples) added to Category:Commons category with local link different than on Wikidata when to Category:Commons category with page title different than on Wikidata and how to remove it from those categories? --Obsuser (talk) 17:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

See this edit. I altered your [...] syntax to {{cl|...}} and used the actual Cyrillic characters instead of those impossible-to understand percent encodings. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Redrose64 referred to altering category links in your post here.[2]. As mentioned, the reported problem appears to only occur in Wikipedia languages with script variants (see mw:Writing systems#LanguageConverter). [[{{#property:P373}}]] produces a working link (actually bolded text because it's a link to the page itself) in the English 2016 but not in the Serbian sr:2016 or Chinese zh:2016年. I don't know what to do about it. You could try Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). English articles are added to Category:Commons category with local link different than on Wikidata and Category:Commons category with page title different than on Wikidata by code in {{Commons category}}. The code compares to the Wikidata item like wikidata:Q25245#P373. It works correctly at the English Wikipedia but not at the Serbian so you can disable the corresponding code in sr:Template:Commonscat to avoid the unwanted categories. Just comment out the categories with <!-- ... --> if you don't want to mess with the testing code. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I know that what template is doing but category classification on .sr is not logical at all. I will post question to Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) too. Thank you.Obsuser (talk) 22:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

This oddity caught my curiosity in passing, so I had a little play around in page preview on sr:2016. It looks like the problem goes away if you do the comparison inside Lua, instead of in the MW parser. The following seems to be successfully matching P373 against PAGENAME on SR-WP:

{{#invoke:WikidataCheck|wikidatacheck|property=P373|value={{PAGENAME}}|category=:P373/PAGENAME|namespaces=0}}

N.B. I jammed a colon at the start of the category parameter to deliberately break the normal behaviour of generating an invisible category membership not-a-link. I'm not suggesting that Module:WikidataCheck is the correct thing to use in this case, it was just a very convenient way of quickly testing what happens if you do it in Lua, without actually needing to make any Lua changes or add any new module code. It produces "[[Category::P373/PAGENAME same as Wikidata]]" on both en:2016 and sr:2016, and will say "different …" if you introduce an extra character to the value parameter to create a deliberate difference. Maybe it should be done in the existing WikidataCheck, or maybe it should be a new module for this purpose, I'm not taking a position on either side of that.

So, there's a bunch of things to look at which may enable creation of a working solution. Very limited testing by me, just a quick hack, no warranty, use at your own risk, some assembly required, not suitable for small children due to choking hazard.

--Murph9000 (talk) 05:45, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

It seems the bug is in the #property parser function, then. It displays the right result in those languages, but when it is used to compare values something goes wrong. Is there a bug in Phabricator for this yet? — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:11, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Not as far as I can see.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

January 14

What happens to USER Infoboxes when we die?

Hi folks, I am researching technology and generational succession and wondering how we modify Wikiepedia editor user infoboxes in the event of passing?

Is there a duplicate template for every userbox that can be applied to indicate the Wikipedia user has desceased?

I don't really speak with a lot of Wikipedians because of the often confusing politics that have evolved over the years, but what are we, as a community, doing about acknowledging the passing of deceased Wikipedians with respect to their digital estate and tributes to it?

Are we building an encyclopedia of collections for all time that is going to post-date our individual expiry dates?

Help me discover where we are going with this.

THE QUESTION I AM ASKING THEREFORE IS: What part of WIkipedia, is there a subsection or another Project, that deals with establishing how memorials and associated tributes with respect to estates will be handled?

If we want this thing to live forever, do we not have to make changes to some of the infoboxes in the least? How is Admin/editor death handled on WIkipedia?

Wikiworld2 (talk) 00:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

It varies a lot, I guess depending upon how well known and respected they were. See for example User:Wadewitz. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

There is a Category:Deceased Wikipedians; a template, {{Deceased Wikipedian}}; and a wikiproject, WP:RIP. Their userpages are preserved in their memory. Their edits and contributions to the project live on in the attribution on the history pages of the articles they contributed to. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:25, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Someone can mark a user page as deceased, but in most cases we never know why someone stopped editing. There is little practical difference between a dead editor and an editor who simply hasn't logged in for ten years (and might return tomorrow). It is generally considered socially-inappropriate to alter someone else's user page, unless there is an extremely good reason to do so. For now there is an unstated assumption that the user page will probably remain in place long as Wikipedia exists.

Under the copyright terms we use, the record of their edits is legally required to be preserved in connection to any page they have edited. As long as a page they contributed to is still in use, their username will stand in the page's edit history as an implicit memorial to the work they have contributed. Alsee (talk) 00:39, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Followup regarding inheritance of a digital estate, we do not have any mechanism or recognition of "inheritance" of a user account. Wikipedia accounts are only allowed to be used by a single individual - we would activate a software block against anyone discovered to be using an "inherited" user account. From a legal standpoint heirs do inherit the user's copyrights. Anyone who contributes here does so under the terms of an irrevocable copyright license. The heirs could in theory sue someone who copied the user's work in violation of the copyright terms we user here, but they cannot prevent the continued use of that copyrighted-content within the terms of the license. Alsee (talk) 01:22, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Denver Pyle

"Denver Pilye, who Stared as Uncle Jesse in the Dukes of Hazard was in an episode of the Waltons (Season 1)". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.36.254.250 (talk) 01:33, 14 January 2016

The Denver Pyle article already mentions that he was on The Waltons. If I understand what you're saying, it was only one episode, so I doubt it needs further embellishment other than the brief mention it has now. Dismas|^(talk) 18:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Paul Brubaker : Request for review

Since this Help Desk is thought to be the unfriendly but civil and accurate place for questions, as opposed to the Teahouse, I will ask if some other editor will review Draft:Paul Brubaker. It does appear to be an autobiography. It does appear to be one of the best autobiographies that I have seen in Wikipedia (which is not to say much). I may be biased, because I don’t like autobiographies. Can someone here who is a reviewer review this autobiography? It seems ot be well-sourced. Is it neutral? (I am not neutral toward autobiographies, so I need the community to help.

There's a lot of things wrong with the draft that could easily be fixed, e.g. far too much blue text, use of direct external links, a strange heading for the references section. It is not neutral, it concentrates on listing the subject's achievements and awards. This could also be fixed. But there's little point in working on it unless the subject's notability can be established. The most convincing evidence of notability I can see there is a Washington Post article, which quotes him rather than saying anything about him. Maproom (talk) 09:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Ross Turnbull (rugby union)

My husband is Ross Vincent Turnbull and his date of birth has been wrongly recorded as born on 6 January........this is incorrect his date of birth is 13 November 1941.

I would appreciate this being rectified at your earliest convenience.

Kind Regards

Caroline Turnbull — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.163.138.22 (talk) 05:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

My condolences on your loss. Do you have a reliable source for his birthday? Usually something published would do. Unfortunately, your personal knowledge is not considered such, per WP:RS. One of the two source in the article does list the January 6 date. Rwessel (talk) 06:13, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I found the following sources for Ross Vincent Turnbull's date of birth being 13 November 1941:

• Ross Turnbull Death Notice, Newcastle Herald
• Ross Turnbull Death Notice, Sydney Morning Herald

These are, however, obituaries and were most likely produced by the family and so I can't be sure whether they'd be seen as reliable sources. I am a new, relatively inexperienced editor and so I will leave it to another, more experienced user to decide whether these sources are reliable enough for inclusion. If they are, I will be happy to correct the article for you. --  Adam ^{talk - contribs}   20:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Ms. Turnbull, condolences for your loss. I should point out that the article at http://en.espn.co.uk/australia/rugby/player/7450.html has Mr. Turnbull's birth date as 6 January 1941. This was likely the source of the birth date used in the Wikipedia article. Perhaps you should contact ESPN UK and have them correct the information? I note they have contact info at: http://en.espn.co.uk/espn/sport/page/1363.html Chrisw80 (talk) 22:29, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I have copied the above discussion to Talk:Ross_Turnbull_(rugby_union)#Possibly_incorrect_birthdate. I have removed all birthdate information from the article for the time being.

Caroline Turnbull, to ensure that an incorrect date doesn't get added back into the article the best thing you can do is click this link and put in any additional published sources which show the correct birth date. If you also type {{Help me}} that will attract the attention of an editor to review the situation, answer questions, or make appropriate edits to the article. Alsee (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Prince George of Cambridge

Ref number 48 on this page is from a book and I have not done it correctly. Please assist - thanks so much - and please leave in the quote101.182.146.167 (talk) 05:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

What exactly is the problem? Rwessel (talk) 06:20, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me - ref 48 on the above page seems to be incorrectly done: as a book - shouldn't there be a long line of numbers/code as well? Cheers 101.182.146.167 (talk) 06:25, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Dear Madam/Sir, I have added the ISBN. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 06:30, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

How do I post this announcement?

Horses on WP oh my!
This is a physics article on Wikipedia. To keep from angering (or confusing) the editors, it was placed there only briefly in order to publish it in Wikiversity:First Journal of Science

According to this survey, the prime disincentive against making scholarly contributions to Wikipedia is that it will not advance careers. Wikiversity:First Journal of Science will be a peer-reviewed journal that should alleviate this problem for recent college graduates who are not expected to have published in the established scholarly journals.

The word "First" in the title is intended to suggest that we need more journals like this. The Wikiversity:First Journal of Science was patterned after the Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, but will have a somewhat more informal flavor, consistent with this new journal's intent to focus on teaching at the undergraduate college level. Wikiversity:First Journal of Science will attribute with bylines that list usernames only, in contrast with the use of real names by the Wikiversity Journal of Medicine

Another unique feature of Wikiversity:First Journal of Science is that edited versions of Wikipedia articles are welcome, and are presented as Wikipedia articles on the Wikiversity journal via permalinks to the history of Wikipedia articles. This is currently accomplished in a rather awkward fashion, by moving the Wikipedia article into the editor's user space, and after proper attribution, deleting all that extraneous prose that Wikipedia articles tend to acquire. An example of this shown in one of the three "pseudo-articles" that were used to create a mockup version. Of the three "pseudo-articles" in this mockup, I consider only one to be suitable for publication. It is Wikipedia's Introduction to quantum mechanics. Note how the logo was inserted into the "pseudo-accepted" version without permission of the article's current editors. In other words, all of Wikipedia's 5 million articles are candidates for publication in this journal, and in a manner of speaking, have already effectively submitted their manuscripts to Wikiversity:First Journal of Science for review----Guy vandegrift (talk) 09:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

If you are saying you would like a Wikipedia article on "Wikiversity:First Journal of Science," the first step would be to collect significant coverage of the journal in independent reliable sources like newspapers, magazines, and books. If such coverage does not exist, an article is not possible. —teb728 t c 10:45, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Teb728: I agree a WP article on this journal would fall far short of notability--Guy vandegrift (talk) 13:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Guy vandegrift: Do you mean in regards to a mass message letting people know it exists? Or a watchlist notice? -- samtar ^whisper 10:54, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Samtar: Yes, some sort of message to invite contributions would be a good idea. What do you suggest?--Guy vandegrift (talk) 13:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC) ... I just posted on Portal_talk:Physics#Invitation_to_participate_in_an_online_Journal. Should I go to the other Portals and post there?--Guy vandegrift (talk) 17:01, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Guy vandegrift: "Portal talk" pages are for discussing improvements to the corresponding portals. You'd do better to post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics or other WikiProject talk pages if you want your message to reach these editors. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I am thoroughly confused. The title of this thread suggests it is about how to make an announcement; but the following three paragraphs appear to be the content of the announcement. And they make little sense. You quote "the prime disincentive against making scholarly contributions to Wikipedia is that it will not advance careers" – but nor do most of the other things I do with my time, I don't feel it as a disincentive. Then you present a new online journal as a solution to this problem – I don't see how providing an alternative site where people can create articles will encourage scholarly contributions to Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 11:15, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Maproom: I guess we are all confused. It was only as I was creating the mockup did I realize that my journal could essentially accept and publish any article already on WP. The ramifications of that need to be carefully thought out. --Guy vandegrift (talk) 13:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Infinite Speed F1 Team

Infinite Speed is a team of four schoolkids who are making a miniature F1 car to race against others.

Sam Woodhouse is the Team Manager, Chewie (Jessica WinWin) is the Design Engineer, Evan Wilikie is the Manufacturer and Mya Singh is the Marketing Manager

File:Infinite Speed

Logo

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinite Speed (talk • contribs) 11:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing the information about your project. At this stage, you should probably publicise your team on Facebook and similar social media, but if your project gets written about in several reliable sources in the future, then we might have an article about you. Dbfirs 12:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Citing search results pages (website seems to use PHP)

What's the best way to cite a page of search results on a website which does not appear to give a unique URL for each page of results?

The Isle of Wight Family History Society website lets you query its database of churches and chapels. For an article I'm planning, I want to search each place name using the "Search location:" drop-down and "Search" button, then cite info from the records it brings back. Unfortunately each results page has the same static URL, http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/churches/church_etc_res.php. Even worse, if you search for "All locations", each subsection has a unique URL (e.g. http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/churches/church_etc_res.php#Arreton) but this doesn't work if you copy and paste it into a new browser window.

One workaround I thought of: cite the main search page and stick some text at the end of the citation template such as Select "Arreton" from the "Search location:" box. Would that be acceptable in a citation? Or even better, is there a way of finding a unique URL for each search?

(Regarding reliability of this website ... I think it's OK because it lists many of its sources, I have cross-referenced with other reliable sources, and there is editorial oversight. I won't be relying on it as my only source for anything though.)

Hope that question makes sense! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:42, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

The at parameter at Template:Cite web#In-source locations can be used to give search directions like:

"Search the IWFHS Churches, Chapels and Cemeteries". Isle of Wight Family History Society. Search location: Arreton.

PrimeHunter (talk) 13:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

How do search results satisfy WP:V without violating WP:NOR at the same time? --Redrose64 (talk) 13:55, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Can you clarify, in respect of this particular website? This would involve querying a fixed dataset. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:11, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

If somebody reading the article wants to verify a reference, they do not expect, upon clicking a link, to get a message like " Results of search for Churches, Chapels and Cemeteries etc. in There are no entries found, sorry." If you (as the person adding the ref) have searched that website, and what you want to ref is St George's Church, Arreton, pick whichever one of the URLs on the right (I count five) actually supports the facts that you are describing - it might be Church history. Put that in the ref, and others will then be able to click on the link and access exactly the same source, without guessing, without having to mess around with search criteria. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

(Sorry, I had an edit conflict – apologies for the indenting) OK, fair point. I would be citing other sources anyway in all cases, so hopefully I may not need to use the website at all. (I am at the very early stages of research, and the article in question isn't likely to be ready until late this year at the earliest, so I should have plenty of time to find other sources.) If anybody can find a way to get a unique URL, I would be interested to find out anyway, as it would be useful to know even if I don't use it in this case. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 16:29, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Church history at Internet Archive

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:12, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

creating a page in wikipedia

to create an page in wikipedia firstly I have to log in there then I have to go to the sandbox then I can start my work... but my question is when I start writting & finish it shows my username/sandbox what I don't want... I want there to show only my page name... how to do this?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanija22 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

WP:MOVE the page. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:33, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm going to disagree with Redrose64, or at least expand on his answer. I don't think that it would be wise to move the page to article space until the content has been provided with references to independent published reliable sources. I would advise that when you think it is ready you shouldn't move it yourself but should submit it for review through the WP:AFC process. To enable that, I have added a template to your sandbox draft. I'll also put a few useful links on your user talk page (including WP:Your first article). --David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

The sandbox is question is a fork of Rajshahi College, anyway, and is largely identical, text-wise. It would have been easier to make the edits directly to the article instead of copying it all to your sandbox unless your plan to so totally rewrite the article that the one currently in mainspace is in shadow of your version. In any event, it can't be moved on top of the page in mainspace, anyhow. - Purplewowies (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no key

My first article is tagged opening tag is malformed and has a bad name. How can I correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PixtonDesignGroup (talk • contribs) 16:06, 14 January 2016‎ (UTC)

• It appears that you have been blocked for having a promotional username, so please come back and create an appropraite username following the policies at WP:UPOL and then repost your requestion. It should be an easy fix anyone here can help you with. I see one page you have in draft space, but no current errors for references, so I'm not sure if your problem was with that page, or another page that was already deleted for being promotional. Tiggerjay (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

  The error, a stray <ref /> tag, was cured by another editor in this edit. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Reference help requested.

Thanks, 54.163.9.61 (talk) 20:34, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Sarah McCullough

Him who is Sarah McCullough in the real? I only know that she voiced Musa and Stormy. but who she is?--Maxie1hoi (talk) 21:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

@Maxie1hoi: Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 Dismas|^(talk) 21:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Linking from English language page to non-English page

Hello. My question is how one would go about linking from an English language page to a page in another language. So if the regular wikipedia link is formatted like this, beIN Sports, bookended by two brackets, is it possible to link directly to the same page in another language? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThirstCurfew (talk • contribs) 22:00, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

You can link to say the French version like this fr:beIN Sports by typing [[:fr:beIN Sports]]. Maproom (talk) 22:03, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

More at H:ILL. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:22, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

47.54.102.103 (talk) 00:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

If you don't want "fr:" to display, just use the pipe trick, i.e. [[:fr:beIN Sports|beIN Sports]]. Nyttend (talk) 04:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

That, true, Nyttend, but I would always advise against putting a link to a foreign-language article without saying so, because if the reader cannot read the other language it may not be any use to them. My recommendation would always be to use the template {{ill}}, which displays a link to the English article, but if that is red (the article doesn't exist) adds a second link to the foreign-language article. --ColinFine (talk) 12:41, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

January 15

Change name of Spoto Wines

Would you be able to help me change the name of the Spoto Wines page to Spoto Family Wines (add family)? The company recently added "family" to their label and I would like the article updated. Thank you! Lexi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atspoto (talk • contribs) 00:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello Lexi. Did they just change the label, or the name of the business? I ask because all the references I can find still refer to it as "Spoto Wines". Even their own Web site starts out with "Welcome to Spoto Wines! Spoto Wines is a small family winery..." Similarly, all the press I could find refers to "Spoto Wines". Is there any reference to support the name change?--Gronk Oz (talk) 01:16, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

It's very new, so I'm trying to get the owner to change it on their website. As for now, the only support to prove the name change is the image I uploaded to the page. This change occurred probably six months ago, but has been taking longer to change every mention of the winery. There is also a trademark pending on the name. I will work on getting the owner to change his website, then perhaps you can change the name. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atspoto (talk • contribs) 01:48, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Lexi, I guess once the trademark becomes official would be the logical time to make the change.--Gronk Oz (talk) 01:57, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

I disagree. It's not the "official name" that we use for the article, it's the name that most published sources use. Maproom (talk) 08:51, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Maproom is right: See the naming convention guideline at WP:ENGLISH. —teb728 t c 09:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Also supporting that approach is Wikipedia:Moving a page#Reasons for moving a page, which says one reason to move a page is "The subject of the article has changed its name and the new name has come into majority use." In the meantime, would it be appropriate for me to create a redirect from "Sporto Family Wines"?--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

@Gronk Oz: This edit didn't notify. You need to add the links and sign in the same edit. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:30, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Removing Deletion flag

My article was suggested for deletion due to the fact it had no sources. I have now added sources how do I delete the tag for deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Worobey (talk • contribs) 01:20, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

What has changed since the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tim_Fugger to make the subject of the article any more notable? If nothing, then there isn't anything that can be done to prevent the article being deleted. --ℕ ℱ 02:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

what is wikipedia?

≈ surekha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surekha surekha (talk • contribs) 09:49, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an on-line encyclopaedia, created and edited by volunteers from all over the world. You can click on those two words in blue to get more information. Rojomoke (talk) 10:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

More at WP:What is Wikipedia? --Redrose64 (talk) 11:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Nightwing.UK.

Hi,just reading an article on Nightwing uk and see you do not mention the Original Guitarist(Eric Percival)from 1978 to 1982 and later in 2006 on the last album 8472.Maybe an oversight on your behalf.I feel if you write something it should be written properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.141.78 (talk) 12:15, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit. If you find a way that an article can be improved, you are welcome to edit the article; or if you are not confident in doing that, making a suggestion on the article's associated talk page is the best place. Ideally, all information in a Wikipedia article should be supported by a citation to a published source, so if you can give that, so much the better. --ColinFine (talk) 12:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

solutions to the problems of marriage/concepts of marriage

1. basis of marriage A.what is marriage

At the creation of human beings, it was only man was first created.later no ,God saw that it was not the man to be living alone and wished he created a helpmate for him.He did make a helpmate for the man and she was called woman because she had been out of man. Thus, woman was created to assist man in all his endeavors. The promise of God as to bring up children, and so on is secondary issue. b.THE ERRONEOUS MOTIVES TO MARRIAGE ( a) Many people do marry so as ton see someone to be preparing food for them. therefore, such treat their wives as a slaves. This is very wrong motive to marriage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lightofgod23 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Humans were created by evolution. Anyway, this help desk is for questions related to editing and using Wikipedia. Though general knowledge questions are welcome at the reference desk, I think you would need to refine any question in the same vein if you wanted to ask it there.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, is there a way to block a page from being edited?

what can we do if statements of fact are being edited on a page we have an interest in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbrownnason (talk • contribs) 13:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

I've replied two sections below this one since I saw that one first... Dismas|^(talk) 13:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Taharrush gamea

Hi, the Swedish page on Taharrush gamea is not correct. It has different arabic words and is more biased than the English.

A user called Yger is constantly erasing a more correct version and fuller (based upon the English) is taken away immediately.

Now, he has edited more than 200.000 articles priory and I none so how should one therefore edit for example the incorrect naming of the subject in arabic from the start? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabehdin (talk • contribs) 13:10, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. We have no control over the Swedish Wikipedia. See sv:Wikipedia:Begäran om åtgärder.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:28, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, is there a way to block a page from being edited?

Dbrownnason (talk) 13:11, 15 January 2016 (UTC)what can we do if statements of fact are being changed on a page we have an interest in?

(edit conflict) Hi, Dbrownnason. Pages on Wikipedia can only be protected. Protection is only performed on articles that require it in order to prevent harm to the article; it's not done as a precautionary measure. The typical reasons are persistent vandalism, or to stop conduct disputes and edit wars by multiple users so that they'll seek consensus. You can request protection by clicking here. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:18, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

@Dbrownnason: You could request page protection at WP:RFPP. Though because you keep using the word "we", I'm guessing you want to read the conflict of interest guideline first. Followed by Wikipedia:Username policy to see that more than one person should not be using the same account to edit. Dismas|^(talk) 13:17, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

After looking into your edits, I see you might be referring to this edit. You replaced information which had a reference with information that lacked a reference. If information is to remain, a reliable source must be provided. Dismas|^(talk) 13:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Problems with my article

Hello,

I have recently posted a Wikipedia entry on Sadie Morgan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadie_Morgan).

Despite many attempts to ensure it is written in the NPOV, Wikipedia still insists it is written in a way that promotes or advertises the subject.

Please could you provide some guidance as to what specifically is triggers this problem.

Many thanks.

Ann