User talk:Jerem43
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I bequeath unto thee
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Long past due for all of the efforts you put into for WikiProject Food and Drink and for generally being a swell guy who always seems to help me out when I need it most. You are a true Wikipedian of honor and a friend. Now go back to work. Chef Tanner (talk) 02:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC) |
Yer a genius
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What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | |
For those banner thingies (and indirectly, your unbridled passion for assessment of articles) I bequeath unto thee this barnstar, only because I couldn't find a boot to the head barnstar.Chef Tanner (talk) 23:56, 1 July 2008 (UTC) |
Thanks for the fixes and here are two Barnstars!
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The Mixed Drinks Barnstar | |
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{{WPFOOD}} is a new template for me. I mostly wanted to fix the Project logos. I got a little lost in the brief time I had to look at the template, so I mostly focused on the images. Now that I look at what you changed, it makes sense. Actually a lot more sense. :-)
I just wanted to clarify about Bartending... It's barely a "task force" here, but it is the Wikipedia extension of the Bartending WikiProject over on en.books. It started as a TF here on en.wiki, but grew into a (very small, but more active than 99% of the other) WikiProject over on en.book. I am fine with it being classified as a TF under WP:MIX, but I think it is cleaner keeping the names the same (i.e., keeping it a WP here).
I really need to get back to that project again. I just have so much going on in my non-wiki life that I barely have time to do anything here (or on en.book). I also contribute on commons and meta as well as administer a non-Foundation wiki. That's why I am so happy to see the things you have been doing with WP:FOOD. Great job! It also makes me happy to see that all the work I did starting in December 2006 is still having a meaningful effect here. It is one reason I do ask people to not make drastic changes--unless they are as committed as I was to making a coordinated change across the whole project.
Incremental changes (like your WPFOOD template eventually replacing WPMIX) are great, too. I can see your commitment, and I like bringing the WP:FOOD child projects together. That was one other thing I tried to do and is why I did as much cross-project templating and stuff that you are carrying on. So, thanks! Here are two Barnstars for your efforts! --Willscrlt (Talk) 10:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
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The da Vinci Barnstar | |
The da Vinci Barnstar is hereby awarded for excellent work in template design to Jerem43 by Willscrlt (Talk) 10:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC) |
P.S. I added all the project shortcuts to WP:WPR. I noticed that the Pub TF didn't have one, so I created WP:PUBS for it since WP:PUB was already taken. I did not add it to the WP:PUBS page yet in case you and the TF members would rather use something different. --Willscrlt (Talk) 10:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Jeremy
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The Editor's Barnstar | |
Thank you Jeremy for telling me that you cannot create sockpuppets. You have made me a better person and have also made me a better wikipedian. You deserve a barnstar for helping me. Plyjacks (talk) 03:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC) |
I apolozige for creating all those sock puppets. From now on I will make sure that the Ronald McDonald page is clean and safe. Plyjacks (talk) 03:11, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. The way you laid out your speedy deletion request, it looked as though you wanted the page to be moved to This is the proper name for the cuisine of the Senegalese people.. I assume that this was actually the reason, and that consequently you wanted Senegalese cuisine, not Senegali cuisine, to be the article's name, but for that, why delete anything? You just need to start a discussion on the current article's talk page, establish consensus, and then use the move function (which automatically overwrites redirect pages). It Is Me Here t / c 11:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I am the one who moved it in the first place. I moved it to the wrong name. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 11:23, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
McDonald's legal and logo
I'm curious about this edit here. Could you point me to this discussion you mention? Thanks. -Andrew c [talk] 17:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Re:the 3RR report
Actually, I think you should've raised the issue to ANI, not the current place. I simply stated that two other editors (not including me) are supporting his edits. p.s Why did not you notify him of the report?--Caspian blue 02:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
- Again, I must disagree with your reporting there and you seem to misunderstand my message here. You don't even need to persuade me for your stance.--Caspian blue 03:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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Re:Drink Portal
I've replied here. -- MISTER ALCOHOL T C 20:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Wine Portal
I so don't have time to keep up with all of those items, someone from the Wine Project should be working on that. You and I do enough stuff already.--Chef Tanner (talk) 21:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
- You know what, I lied, I'll take a look at it when I get home. I wanted to add a featured grape, featured winery and other items and Ill find a way to get soomeone else to update the news more regularly, danke sir.21:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)Chef Tanner (talk)
Deletion
I've restored Portal:Drink/Selected article, per request. I'm not quite sure why it showed up as a user-requested deletion, though it may have been an odd transclusion. I've doublechecked the other Portal pages that you requested to be deleted, and they seem to be okay, but if there's anything else you'd like restored, please let me know. :) --Elonka 05:24, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Ivo Shandor, I saw his name in Tobin's Spirit Guide . . .
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The Barnstar of Good Humor | |
Bestowed for unrelenting good humor, of the ectoplasmic variety upon Jerem43 by Ivo Shandor, or IvoShandor, or . . . yeah, that guy. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Food portal
You rock, I love the use of the random portal generator for the DYK, I've got some time I'm going to try and get some work done on the wine portal. I don't know how you have been finding the time for everything you have been doing.--Chef Tanner (talk) 17:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Its all copy and paste crap. All I do is take the format of one page, copy it into notepad, do a simple substitution with CTRL-H, and re-paste it back into my page of choice. I can setup a whole "selected foo" sub-page with 20 article templates in about 15 minutes.
- That's how I got it to the point it was before, same thing I did for the WikiProject food and drink a while back. It still takes a lot of time. I'm going to be in Boston Feb. 6-9 at the American Culinary Federation Northeast conference, we should get together for a drink if you are free.--Chef Tanner (talk) 00:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Cuisine of Moldova?
Hi. Any special reason why Cuisine of Moldova has not been renamed Moldovan cuisine in line with the general trend? --Zlerman (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Re:bot for a very small change
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Chain restaurant
This might be an article you'd be interested in: Wow Cafe and Wingery. I don't know much about it, but I thought you might want to check it out. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Country adjectivals in cuisine article titles
Hi.
A little bird (named Zlerman) told me that you've been handling the renaming of country "cuisine of" articles to their respective adjectival forms (Moldovan cuisine, etc.)
Cool. Nice job.
I did some work on these a month or two ago, because they hook directly into the country outlines (part of Wikipedia's outline of knowledge) which Zlerman, I, and a team of editors have been working on since last spring.
While I was renaming them, I created a little tool to help out with the task, that you may find helpful....
Here's a list of "Cuisine of" links to help keep track of the moves and redirects for all the countries of the world:
User:The Transhumanist/Cuisine by country list.
I hope you find it useful. (Either way, please let me know).
Have fun. ;)
I look forward to your reply (on my talk page).
The Transhumanist 22:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: if you are interested in the development of Wikipedia's coverage of country-related topics, check out Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge#Geography and places, user:The Transhumanist/Country outlines, and my talk page.
P.P.S.: country adjectivals can be found at List of adjectival and demonymic forms of place names.
Re:AfD on Cuisine of Dominica
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WikiProject Fisheries and Fishing project page
Hi Jeremy. Thanks for the changes you made to this page. I'll pull some of them back, but most of them seem fine. --Geronimo20 (talk) 12:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Cuisine of Dominica
Quite frankly, I think you have misrepresented the case with your AfD request. On rereading your argument, I see that you are not suggesting deletion: you are basically suggesting a redirect. Instead of an independent, stand-alone article, you think we should have a cuisine section within Dominica. Isn't that different from AfD? Isn't this basically a merge proposal? Although I voted against deletion, I would have absolutely no problem with recasting "cuisine of Dominica" as a section within the country article. Perhaps you should consider reformulating your request? Best, --Zlerman (talk) 13:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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Input!
As the creator of the task force, what do you want in it? --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 11:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps if it is a chain, then which chain, like Mitchells & Butlers, etc.
- I need to get back and do some work on pubs! Thanks for the nudge! SilkTork *YES! 11:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Take a look, I am working on some advanced features. This is the basic box as of now. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 04:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- That's looking great! I had considered types of beer, but that way lies madness. The template will end up with a long meaningless list of every sort of beer served at the pub, and some people will reduce the list, and others will add to it, and before you know where you are you have an edit war, or a long template filled with a list of styles of beer that nobody cares about or will read. If the pub is known for serving a particular beer, that will come out in the article. So what I am saying is remove the beerstyle section and salt the earth! Thanks SilkTork *YES! 11:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Re:Portal:wine/Selected article
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Confectioner's glaze
Hi Jerem43. I noticed your edits concerning confectioner's glaze/pharmaceutical glaze. However, it turns out that they are the same thing; the only difference is the use (the name "pharmaceutical glaze" is for pharmaceuticals, whereas the name "confectioner's glaze" is for confections). I have added some citations on Pharmaceutical glaze that should clear this up. -kotra (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on The San Fransisco Gate, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page.
If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. -Zeus- 17:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by -Zeus- (talk • contribs)
- OK, sorry, didn't know what that meant. -Zeus- 17:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by -Zeus- (talk • contribs)
Thank you for the barnstar
I'm really flattered by the award. I've always highly appreciated your contribution to articles related Food and Drink project. Thanks again. ^^ --Caspian blue 02:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Taco Bell
Hi Jerem,
sorry if this is in the wrong place. Are you still involved with the Taco Bell article? There are some changes which have been suggested (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Taco_Bell#WE_ARE_NOT_A_PRICING_GUIDE) about removing the Taco Bell Value Menus/discontinued products and their pricing from the main article. I suggested that perhaps a separate product page such as the one for Burger King's products could be created so as to not just delete the contributed info. What do you think? Toni S. (talk) 15:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Wurstcamp
If you had checked the history of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wurstcamp, you'll see that I set it up and someone blanked it. Perhaps someone will close the debate and delete it now. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- I just indef blocked the user who deleted the AfD. Screwing with processes is a big-time-no-no for a SPA. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Doc pages for random portal components
I'm looking at your latest edits and wondering if you've made a mistake or not as you seem to have given instructions and usage examples for using box header instead of the templates related to the docpages? Nanonic (talk) 03:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, what I mean is that the example already present on Template:Random portal component/doc was there to show a static output of the box. You've expanded this (diff) to act as an example of the coding required to get it working. Showing this code as an example seems odd as all it will produce is another static box, when I saw the example heading I was expecting to see a breakdown of {{Random portal component}} and it's variables. Sorry if that was unclear. Nanonic (talk) 04:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I'm wondering why you tagged Template:Browsebar and Template:Portals as esoteric? Thanks. (reply here) -- Quiddity (talk) 19:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't know, probably a copy and paste error while I was creating the documentation sub-pages. I'll fix it.
--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 20:04, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar!
An honour indeed! :) --Fir0002 11:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Deletions
Are you suggesting that the person mentioned in my edit was not rumored to be responsible for the mass marketing and popularization of gel-type beverages in the city of Milwaukee, WI? I thought this was an interesting piece of local trivia and as a resident of Milwaukee felt compelled to disseminate. And secondly, is it you that is the proprieter of this article, and so therefore have all rights reserved to delete any subsequent editions . . .?
RadioGnomeInvisible (talk) 22:10, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- It is an uncited, unsubstantiated fact that does not warrant inclusion. Please read the policies WP:Note, WP:RS and WP:V to find out on how to properly add and cite such entries. Also, please read up on WP:Trivia and WP:NOT before accusing another editor of WP:OWN. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 22:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Just my two cents as an uninvolved editor: The statement may very well be true, but as it was, readers had no way of verifying it as true. Therefore, the statement needed to be accompanied by some sort of reliable source. For this reason, I would probably have also removed it until a reliable source was given. -kotra (talk) 22:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Portal problems
Did a recent change you made to the {{Random portal component with nominate}} cause the screw up with three sections that use the template in each of two portals portal, Portal:Ireland and Portal:Philately, that I maintain? ww2censor (talk) 06:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- I have made no changes to the template, only added documentation and cataloged them. I would not even know where to begin to edit those templates. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 06:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- oops. Very odd because that is the only template that is being affected and the only recent changes have been yours on Jan 9 and Feb 5 and I know it was working properly a few weeks ago. I presume you can see the problem with the random components showing in the portal page as redlinks. Very few other editors of this template seem to be active. Who can I ask? TIA ww2censor (talk) 06:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Purging the server cache seems to have fixed it; I hope it stays fixed. I'll keep and eye on it but it seems very odd. Thanks anyway. ww2censor (talk) 06:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- oops. Very odd because that is the only template that is being affected and the only recent changes have been yours on Jan 9 and Feb 5 and I know it was working properly a few weeks ago. I presume you can see the problem with the random components showing in the portal page as redlinks. Very few other editors of this template seem to be active. Who can I ask? TIA ww2censor (talk) 06:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
it icon
Hi, I noticed you blanked Template talk:it icon a little less than two weeks ago. I assumed it was a mistake and reverted it completely. If I was mistaken, please do not hesitate to re-revert me. Thank you. --Thinboy00 @021, i.e. 23:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
May or may not be something you're interested in. I've never been there or Hooters. Although there's a Loosey's something or other like that here that I got in big trouble for going to... (no it's not a strip club)! ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting article. Thanks for the tip. I had their Indian chai latte a couple years ago and it was divine. Very rich, just how I it. I imagine it has more than a few calories... ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
For every category you create, you should specify parent categories to which it belongs. You do this by listing the parents near the bottom of the page, each enclosed in double brackets like so:
[[Category:Massachusetts portals]] [[Category:Parent2]]
Contact me if you have questions about this. Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 23:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Re: Template:Foodbox
Okay thanks for letting me know. Could you help me change the articles that use this template to use {{nutritional value}} instead and then we can merge both together, as they essentially perform the same function? Gary King (talk) 18:02, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Another option would be to use both {{nutritional value}} and {{Infobox Prepared Food}}. Gary King (talk) 18:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Codyannie whosit
I had a feeling I was dealing with someone who wasn't a newbie... That article was set up too well. I don't know the sockpuppeteers yet. Must look into them more. Peridon (talk) 18:34, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ta. I should have spotted the Cody (kicks himself). That one and Roy Ward are the only two I've come across closely before. Peridon (talk) 18:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there - thanks for finding a citation for the pasta-based tests in Rochester: I guess I was using a different Google search. Can you find anything to support the stuff about "mashed potatoes and gravy and a vegetable medley" and "brownie a la mode"? Thanks - Pointillist (talk) 21:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Wikiproject Spirits
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Why "Mazanderani" with an "e" if the province is called Mazandaran? Beyond the spelling, is this sufficiently notable for an article of its own? --Zlerman (talk) 03:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have no clue about the cuisine or its peoples, or the related naming conventions as I just stumbled across it and linked it to the list of cuisines. --Jeremy (blah blah) 03:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Mickey D's?
I don't think this one is going to be around for long: McGangBang. But as you are the expert on all things Golden Arches related I thought you might be itnerested to have a look. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- I already have voted to remove it in the AfD and prodded all of the redirects. I also posted vandal warnings on the authors page. --Jeremy (blah blah) 03:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Cuisine of Assam
- This message is copied from User talk:Zlerman, as you are obviously the right person to deal with it. Thank you. --Zlerman (talk) 15:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Could you please move Assamese cuisine to Cuisine of Assam. "Assamese" does not automatically mean everyone from Assam. It is the name of a language, one of many spoken in Assam and Assamese cuisine is not the same thing as Cuisine of Assam.
Thanks,
Chaipau (talk) 15:43, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hello Chaipau,
- When we are dealing with national/regional/ethnic subjects, such as ethnicity or cuisines, that that are not confined to a well defined geographic area the Wikipedia naming convention is Xxx cuisine. This is per the caveats section of the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (country-specific topics) policy. Your reasoning for requesting the change is actually why this is done, since there are numerous ethnic groups that are in the area of Assam and I am sure that those who consider themselves Assamese are found elsewhere in India the Assamese cuisine name is appropriate. If there is a majority ethnic group in the region that identifies itself by another name, their cuisine should have its own article that is linked to from the Assamese cuisine article per summary style guidelines.
- I hope this helps you and answers any questions. --Jeremy (blah blah) 16:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this naming convention does not apply to the case in Assam. First, Assam is not a country, but s state/province. The formats and conventions of Wikipedia could have limitation when it comes to the variety of topics under consideration here, and that there should be some leeway on a case-by-case basis. And Cuisine of Assam is an appropriate one where a leeway is necessary. I may discuss this at more length if you need, but I do feel strongly that the topic should not be made to conform to a convention of Wikipedia at the cost of a mis-presentation.
Thanks, Chaipau (talk) 00:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- A state is a region, therefore this is a regional cuisine. However, the formatting also follows all of the other regions of India. --Jeremy (blah blah) 03:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- I second Jerem4's opinion on this (I'm very impressed at the logical and kindly written rationale by the way). Please see articles of other regional cuisine of other countries; For examples, Aragonese cuisine and Catalan cuisine; Aragon has a lot of meanings including several regions of several countries (see; Aragon (disambiguation)). However when it comes to "regional cuisine", the term "cuisine" is only added to regions or states with "developed culinary techniques and tradition, so "Aragonese cuisine only refers to the "cuisine of Aragon, Spain" with history of the former same named kingdom. On the other hand, Catalan also refers to Catalan language just like Assam, as well as to the region of Catalonia, Catalan people, the former state and so forth. However, the article is not named "Cuisine of Catalonia". If you wish to change the title against our naming convention on cuisine related articles, you need to open a discussion and get a consensus. However, because your wish may result in other cases for naming titles of other regional cuisines, so you have to very cautious of the dispute resolving process.--Caspian blue 04:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Parsi and Mughlai cuisine
Please visit Parsi cuisine and Mughlai cuisine (if you have not done so recently) and view the latest changes relating to Pakistani/Indian connections.--Zlerman (talk) 17:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
The very first Food and Drink barnstar...
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The Food and Drink Barnstar | |
Awarded to Jeremy for his tireless devotion to food and cuisine topics, by Zlerman (talk) 07:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC) |
Hi Jeremy. I'm tidying up and reorganising WP Beer. There are some ideas I'm going to be raising and discussing with the members. Part of the reorganising involves restructuring the main page to highlight what we do, and remove stuff that we don't do (or don't pay attention to!). And to make clear which areas of Beer come under which strand. The beer topic is only partly covered by Food and Drink, so it is appropriate that we remove the appearance that we are totally a sub-project of Food and Drink. A main strand, for example, is the business aspect of breweries for which we come under Organizations. I took a look at the WP Organisations page, and I'm taking ideas from that on how to restructure the Beer page. There are various matters that I'll be taking to the membership to discuss. I'd like to be able to show them the sort of page I'll be recommending. I'd appreciate it if you left the Beer main page alone for a while to allow me to structure it. I just went to it this morning to add Alerts, and I saw that you had restored the side panel which is mainly Food and Drink focused. I had extracted the main elements of the side panel and started to organise them into the page in order. If what I am attempting to do doesn't work, or doesn't get the approval of the other members, then so be it. But I'd like a chance at reorganising things first. I think Beer has much to gain from a relationship with Food and Drink - and you in particular have a lot of energy and knowledge that I'd like us to tap into. In fact, part of my thinking the other day, was as Beer has grown very quiet recently, that aspects of the topic could be more firmly attached to related projects as TaskForces. So that Breweries could become a TaskForce of organizations and Beer a TaskForce of Food and Drink. Certainly, the days when the talkpage was buzzing, and I could get a strong response to calls for discussion, have long gone! However, before going down that route, I thought I'd have a solid go at jazzing things up. As you are better at designing and altering pages than me, would you please put the page back to my last revision, and add {{ArticleAlertbotSubscription}} to a section named Article alerts. Regards SilkTork *YES! 12:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- I like the layout of Wikipedia:WikiProject Companies. I may try blending bits of that into the Beer page. SilkTork *YES! 15:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for some of the tidying you have done. I think the page is making progress, and is now easier to navigate. SilkTork *YES! 23:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
"To do" vs. "Tasks"
I'm not sure what the "To do" bit is about. It links to this page: Wikipedia:Community portal/Opentask, which is not related to the Beer project. If we are supposed to manually create and insert things for people "to do" - what difference is that from "tasks"? SilkTork *YES! 23:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
About the difference:
- Tasks list is for repetitive items that need doing continuously, such as rating articles, destubification etc
- To do list is for specific one-time projects plans, such as redoing the home page or an improvement drive for a particular article
- Current list is for "To Do" items that are being worked on by the community currently
The "to do" link does not point to the location you are speaking of, I believe you are mistaken in that. The community forum points to the Food & Drink community platform that was established last year.
--Jeremy (blah blah) 02:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- When I click on "Here are some tasks you can do:" it does take me to Wikipedia:Community portal/Opentask.
- Part of the intention with this cleanup of the project page is to remove elements that can become (or already are) out of date, serve no immediate purpose, or are empty. Beer is not so busy that a suggestion for attention cannot be made on the talkpage, where others if they wish can then respond. If the project became so active that we had a number of one-off tasks, and where people were motivated to manually check on progress and maintain the to do list, then we could consider putting it back, but for the moment it's simply sitting there doing nothing. Well - it is doing something - it is saying that this project has nothing to do! If there are redundant, empty or out of date items on a project page it gives a bad appearance. When editing around Wikipedia I drop in on various projects to look for advice. I look at activity on the talkpage, but more especially I look at how well kept the main project page is. If a project page contains out of date material, then I have little confidence that I will get a quick or meaningful response.
- What would be a reason, under the current circumstances, for having a To Do list on the project page which both reveals we have nothing to do, and which points to tasks away from the Beer project (thus taking potential members away from helping with beer matters)? SilkTork *YES! 08:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Badagnani RFC
Hi, Jeremy. Eugene2x (talk · contribs) files WP:Requests for comment/User conduct on Badagnani (talk · contribs). Since you've known him for a long time, your input on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Badagnani would appreciated. Thanks.--Caspian blue 00:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
If something was merged, the original article history needs to be retained for attribution purposes, so deleting it because someone disagrees with the merge is a bad idea. Perhaps you can go to the new Wikipedia:Mergers for discussion for wider input, but unless new sources come to light or unless a clear reason is provided, it is safe to ignore it (just don't editwar over it). - Mgm|(talk) 11:04, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I saw the sign for the TC BCR yesterday at BK
It was one of the five happiest days of my life. :) youngamerican (wtf?) 11:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I would......
but I don't know how to do what you asked about updating assessment on talk page for stub articles. I have never heard of this before meaning you are the first to ask me to do this! And yeah, with enough notice, I would love to meet other Boston wikis. But I use paratransit so I need to know when and where by the day before. Reservations must be made by 4PM the day before! Postcard Cathy (talk) 15:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Could you please address the following query, posted on my talk page on 13 April 2009? Thank you. --Zlerman (talk) 00:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Copied from User talk:Zlerman
Is the correct name for this Burkinabe cuisine?
(please reply on my talk page - thank you).
The Transhumanist 04:29, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- After looking through the various links on Google, the people from Burkina Faso are called Burkinabe (French: Burkinabé) so Burkinabe cuisine would be the correct term. The reason I never changed it was because I didn't know that fact. --Jeremy (blah blah) 01:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Done
- By the way, to find out what things from various countries are called (German, Italian, Dutch, Vietnamese, etc.), the article Adjectivals and demonyms for countries and nations is very useful.
Move
Is there any specific reason you moved User:Ctjf83/BudSelect? CTJF83Talk 04:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- I guess it's ok to move the others. I just feel I have more control over the userboxes if they are sub sections of my user page. CTJF83Talk 06:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- And since I'm chatting with you, what would I need to do to Dr Pepper to get it up to Good Article standard, besides a good copy edit CTJF83Talk 07:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey
I wanted to convey to you that our discussion (and the other subsequent and seemingly ongoing discussions) on Talk:Daybreak regarding the subtleties and pitfalls of original research and synthesis have turned out to be extremely valuable. We may not have all gone about it the right way, but as it stands, the lessons learned from that discussion have given me a renewed perspective on editing. As I have been perusing Wikipedia for the past month or so, I have seen a ton of instances of uncited original research/synthesis that I had simply overlooked in the past. It wasn't a waste of my time and I wanted you to feel as though it wasn't a waste of your time either. IRelayer (talk) 22:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
userboxes & template space
Most userboxes belong in userspace. Don't move them wholesale into the template space. –xeno talk 03:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- A long while ago we decided to move non-encyclopedic userboxen out of templatespace and into userspace. If you want some work moving userboxes around, you could find non-encyclopedic userboxen in templatespace and bring them into userspace. See WP:UBM for more on this. –xeno talk 03:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- There is no consensus to migrate userboxen into templatespace. You should not be moving stuff out of other user's space. –xeno talk 03:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- It was agreed upon many moons ago that anything that isn't of strict encyclopedic value, something like {{User en}}, for example, should be moved into the userspace. These beverage-preference userboxen clearly fall under "What wikipedia is not" and therefore they belong in userspace, where requirements are more lax. While strict adherance has lapsed, moving stuff wholesale back into templatespace is a bad idea. Feel free to confirm this at WP:VPP. –xeno talk 04:08, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- There is no consensus to migrate userboxen into templatespace. You should not be moving stuff out of other user's space. –xeno talk 03:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I've already reverted all your pagemoves. Please seek further input before another mass migration of userboxen back into templatespace. –xeno talk 04:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oh my, I see this has been going on for some time. What I should say is, I've reverted all of your pagemoves from this evening. If you don't make a thread, I will shortly because This is madness! (I kid, but you really ought seek counsel on this. You're going to ignite the userbox wars again!) –xeno talk 04:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't realize this campaign had been going on for so long. I've made a thread: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#On userboxes meandering back into templatespace and won't revert any more of your moves, but I would also ask that you don't perform any more until it's settled. –xeno talk 04:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oh my, I see this has been going on for some time. What I should say is, I've reverted all of your pagemoves from this evening. If you don't make a thread, I will shortly because This is madness! (I kid, but you really ought seek counsel on this. You're going to ignite the userbox wars again!) –xeno talk 04:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I can't say I blame you, and, to be honest, it would be nice if we cuold just use template space for whatever we want. But things get crowded and we had to draw the line somwhere. If users are inactive, you could consider migrating the userboxes to a subspace of User:UBX, but to be honest on these things it doesn't really matter where they lie as long as people can find them. And you have to think about all the work you are creating if the tranclusions need to be fixed... –xeno talk 04:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I just want to make it known that I appreciate that you are trying to cleanup the userbox galleries... I'm a fellow userbox fan myself. =) But I'm fairly certain we still want them (mostly) in userspace. –xeno talk 04:53, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- It seems like a lot of busywork, and I would still advise against moving stuff from other's userspace (unless they've been inactive, say, 2 years or something) but as long as they aren't going back into templatespace it probably wouldn't be a problem. –xeno talk 06:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- To be perfectly honest, I don't think it should be done for existing userboxes with many transclusions. They're already in place on many userpages, so we would need to leave redirects behind, or update transclusions. Either way it's undesirable... –xeno talk 06:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- For example User:UBX/Alcohol-0 alone has over 800 transclusions. It really makes more sense for these userboxes already in userspace to stay put. ( I doubt we'll get our own namespace for userboxes, either ). You'll notice from Wikipedia:Userboxes/Food that 90% of the userboxes are already in userspace. It makes more sense to swim downstream =) If you like, you could adopt the userboxes still straggling in Template space. I would be happy to lend a hand with my bot to retarget the uses so the redirect from templatespace can be deleted. –xeno talk 07:05, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- To be perfectly honest, I don't think it should be done for existing userboxes with many transclusions. They're already in place on many userpages, so we would need to leave redirects behind, or update transclusions. Either way it's undesirable... –xeno talk 06:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, as far as the "Food" username, you would need to go to WP:USURP. Just remember that only you can edit with the account (i.e. it can't be a shared WikiProject account). –xeno talk 07:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Don't worry - I only moved the pages back into userspace; I didn't change any of the edits you made to them. As far as your suggestion, I would say you should give users at least a year moving stuff about in their userspace. Everything else as proposed looks fine to me, and I'd be happy to run the bot. As far as WP:AWB, you can see the manual at WP:AWB/MAN and see also Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Find and replace. Basically you have it make a list (i.e. "What transcludes page (all NS)": Template:User dietcaffienefreepepsi), then configure what changes you want AWB to make upon those items, (i.e. Find & replace {{User dietcaffienefreepepsi}} with {{User:UBX/Dietcaffienefreepepsi)) then "Start" it and it will show you the changes it is making and you approve them by clicking save. –xeno talk 17:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, I moved the VPP discussion to Wikipedia talk:Userboxes#On userboxes meandering back into templatespace, and some other users have provided insight. I also made some clarifications to the guideline, let me know if that would've helped explain the whole userspace vs. templatespace issue. –xeno talk 17:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
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Done. Not sure if you're interested in branching out into other categories, but I'd be happy to keep running it and cleaning up templatespace. –xeno talk 17:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Done, again. –xeno talk 13:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I just wanted to alert you to the recent improvements that FredTheBarCat (talk) has made in the WP:MIX article area. You're more actively editing in that area right now than I am, and I thought maybe you had something that he could help with if he has the time and editing skills/experience to help you. It's a great place to learn the Wikipedia ropes. I know from experience! :-) TTYL. --Willscrlt (→“¡¿Talk?!”) 11:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:Infobox McDonald's
Template:Infobox McDonald's has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. ViperSnake151 Talk 02:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
- On a related note, I don't mean to put untrue words in your mouth, so I want to point out something I wrote mentioning you on ViperSnake's talk page. Have a good weekend! --Willscrlt (→“¡¿Talk?!”) 17:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Documentation for my userboxes and other templates
Hi Jerem. Please do not move my template documentation to subpages. I know that is the accepted standard, but since I transwiki them to other wikis, it makes twice as much work to replicate all the subpages and keep everything synched up. Further more, these are not frequently edited or highly transcluded templates; they are not protected or semi-protected, thus anyone can edit the main template; so there is no benefit to splitting the docs into subpages. The other changes are great, and appreciated. But I am going to merge the docs back into the main template pages for easier maintainability. Thanks! --Willscrlt (→“¡¿Talk?!”) 05:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Actroid addition
Look, we are discussing that very thin in discussion. The image you are adding is indeed free, but it has absolutely no citable connection to the article - it is giving weight to a very tiny portion of the episode in question, and is deleterious to a greater understanding of the article. might I ask you to please refrain from re-adding the image until the discussion is complete in article talk? It might very well be resolved that any mention of the robots' models is simply a grand pile of rubbish. Unless you have solid, cited information that states that the robot models were intrinsic to an understanding of the episode, let's discuss the mater. Okay? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 04:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
CfD nomination of Category:Foodservice navbox templates
I have nominated Category:Foodservice navbox templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Dr Pepper jingle
I appreciate your efforts in cleaning up articles. I don't think, however, it is necessary (or even a good idea) to clean up the grammar in jingle lyrics. "Wouldn't you like to be a pepper" is not sung "Would not you like to be a pepper". Sing it out loud and listen to how it sounds. :) Ward3001 (talk) 15:42, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Jeremy, if you can spare a moment, would you step in a discussion on the talk page? Yesterday, I moved the article from [List of Indonesian cuisine]] to the current title, and add a table with images for each entry. That was to make the title consistent with other food-list articles. However one editor objects my editing, so since you're knowledgeable of MoS for cuisine articles, could you give your input there? Thanks.--Caspian blue 04:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks!, you demonstrated the difference between dishes and cuisine very well that I did not clearly grasp. I hope this small dispute end by your meditation. :) --Caspian blue 05:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Food and drink
I beg your pardon. There were several categories with red-links that I repaired, several 'catmore1' red-links that I repaired and more that I don't need to detail here. If you could tell me what needs to be done, I'm more than willing to help you out, but you are going to have to change your tone to a more collaborative one. --Funandtrvl (talk) 05:34, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I forgive you. :)
- On {{WPFOOD}}, there are 10 task forces, are there anymore F&D projects that were deprecated and are now only a taskforce that still have categories to clean up? Which ones are still being used, like WP Ice Cream (or not)?
- One more problem I spotted, Category:Food and drink articles needing photo is currently empty, because the project template doesn't have a parameter set to fill it, like "needs-photo". Is the project still wanting to use this category and parameter (which would need to added), or isn't it better to use "req photo" template, which seems to be used more often? Anyways, it's late, so I'm signing off now. Please let me know what 'task' I can do for the project that would be of help. Thanks. --Funandtrvl (talk) 06:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the cookies and milk, always the best snack food!! --Funandtrvl (talk) 19:22, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- One more question, most WPs and several of the WPFood children use Category:WikiProject Food and drink articles. I'm suggesting that the "by quality, importance", etc. get placed into this category, and sorted under "Articles" in the main cat. It cuts the clutter on the main cat page. I'd be happy to do this, just wanted to advise you! --Funandtrvl (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hello again! Just wanted to alert you to a very helpful shortcut for tagging talk pages. If the "namespace" of the talk page is one of the following: Category, File (previously Image), Portal, Project or Template, the {{WPBM}} template now reads that "namespace" and automatically categorizes the talk page correctly and efficiently for quality and importance. See: [1] Thus, you don't need to add the parameter
|class=
to {{WPFOOD}}, the work is done for you, like magic. :) --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Question-What is the status of WP:SPIRITS? It is listed on this template: {{Food projects}} as a child project, but it isn't under any F&D WP categories or linked to {{WPFOOD}}, is it? Just wondering why it's not listed, when the other child projects are. Can you fill me in on the story? --Funandtrvl (talk) 03:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
- Concerning Category:Drink infobox templates, I believe there is a problem here with your revert. The parent category that should be referenced in this situation is Category:Infobox templates. The Category:Drink infobox templates is not categorized anywhere under Category:Infobox templates; however, Category:Food infobox templates is listed as a sub-category. It would follow that the drink infobox templates cat. should either be placed as a sub-category of the food infobox templates cat. or directly into Category:Society and social science infobox templates, otherwise it can't be specifically located as an "infobox" category.
- Please explain your reasons for not including it in an "infobox" category. --Funandtrvl (talk) 05:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I realize that the TFs use the importance factors from the parent and the WPBM instructions say that the pass-thru isn't needed. However, if the pass-thru truly isn't needed, then why is the line "(marked as Top-importance)" not showing up for the Foodservice task force when it isn't passed thru, (see: [2]), but when it is passed-thru, that line is displayed, (see: [3])? Certainly, that pass-thru is triggering something?? --Funandtrvl (talk) 18:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- IMPORTANT-something is blanking out the /doc page on the main template for WPFOOD. I can't see right away what's doing it, could you take a look? --Funandtrvl (talk) 15:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Just noticed that it has a hidden cat Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded, I would suggest to use only 1 template example, with all the TFs displayed because with all the different banners display, I got lost halfway down the page. Some good examples: Template:WPBRAZIL, template:WPMILHIST.
- More things to do--
- 1) create cat:Coffee and tea articles (or something like it) and cat:WikiProject Bartending articles, add these to WPFOOD, so you can see which articles are tagged as such.
- 2) Organize order of WPs and TFs on WPFOOD template to match hierarchy, i.e., cheeses, foodservice, herbs, then the other WPs in alpha. order, except for the relevant TFs that should immediately follow their WP. I can work on this, later on. --Funandtrvl (talk) 15:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Mmmm coca-cola
"Look at all this junk food!" --IvoShandor (talk) 07:14, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
My Food Userboxes...
With reluctance... :-) If it is better to have them under the UBX 'host', then if you wish to, do so. Will there be a redirect on the the original template too? -- J.P.Lon (talk) 09:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC).
Please see: Template talk:ArticlesByQuality#Format problem, thanks. --Funandtrvl (talk) 16:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- When using the format parameter, is there a way to make the WP and Refresh buttons in bold font by default, like the other examples? Also, did you get the message above about the problems w/doc pg for t:wpfood? --Funandtrvl (talk) 16:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I see the fixes for AbQ, although I'm still unsure about how to use it. :) Anyways, for the WPFOOD/doc page, I don't think that removing some of the banner display examples would defeat the purpose, in fact, it would make the instructions much easier to read and follow (in my humble opinion) and you wouldn't have to pg down 3-4 times to read it all. What you could do, is have one banner display with all the WPs and TFs listed, in the part to be transcluded, and keep all the other examples on the "banner" subpage, but within noninclude tags, and put a "see also" into the part to be transcluded, (e.g. "for further info/examples, see: (the banner pg)"). That way, it won't overwhelm the /doc pg and cause it to blank out. Just a suggestion! --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Edit summary typo
No, unfortunately, there isn't. If you leave a note somewhere about what your edit summary meant, that'll suffice; otherwise, I don't think anyone will really notice and/or take offense at it. One (talk) 20:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Burger King/sandbox article
With respect to the Burger King/sandbox article the guideline at WP:SUBPAGES does not allow it. Can you move it to Talk or User namespace? Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 00:32, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Need your help at WP:WINE
It looks like the project is missing the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine/Assessment page, and the corresponding |ASSESSMENT_LINK=
in the {{Wine}} template. Do you have a "boiler-plate" form for Food and drink Assessment pages? Thanks. --Funandtrvl (talk) 19:41, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help! --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:32, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
The big WINE word on top of the portal made the portal look messy, it doesn't look nice at all. Can you help me to change the it to other font type. Or maybe a simple PNG or SVG transparent image can be created to replace them. It looks really horrible.(X Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 06:13, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Need your help in fixing a few errors in the "cat" parameters on the Project information template. It doesn't work, not only because the instructions list "cat" as the parameter, and the actual para. is "category" (needs a 2nd choice to be put in); and it's not set up to link it to a category, like the "stub-cat" is above. Also, how is the "article" parameter supposed to work? It doesn't seem to link to anything either. Additionally, on the WPFOOD template /doc, when is the "wine" parameter able to be used, as it's still in the "don't use" section; however, the instructions have it in there and it does work, actually, which is only more confusing to any reader. Thanks! --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Category supression
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Need one more picture to make 25
At Portal:Drink/Selected article, we need one more picture to make 25. Also I reset the # on the main pg from 23 to 24, please update to 25 when finished. --Funandtrvl (talk) 06:55, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- PS- Have you figured out how to delete 26-50, if they're empty? I'd have to review the template instructions, but it's late, so maybe you've done it already? Thanks, have a nice holiday weekend (U.S.)?! --Funandtrvl (talk) 06:58, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for updating that! Noticed a red-link problem for the /Assessment page off the right panel at WP:F&D, you may need to fix the template again. Anyways, take care! --Funandtrvl (talk) 07:59, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hello again, Template:WPMIX needs its instructions updated to reflect the parameter for the "bar" TF/WP. Also, why so many spaces in the "small" syntax example? It looks better if you use only 1 space or less. Also, the words "bartending" and "mixed drinks" are both re-directs, maybe they should be piped? Just a suggestion! --Funandtrvl (talk) 08:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Also noted, how many WPMIX articles are tagged incorrectly with "focus=bar", like talk:Bartender? Is there an easy way to tell? --Funandtrvl (talk) 08:34, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding Template:Food assessments, please check What Links Here first, or we'll be fixing red-links again on the WP TF pages. Thanks. --Funandtrvl (talk) 18:09, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- No problem, thanks for pointing out the ghosted links. That is really weird!! :) --Funandtrvl (talk) 23:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Coca Cola Template
I am curious as to why you reverted the diambiguation edits made by myself and others on Template:Coca-Cola brands. Many of those links refer to completely irrelevant articles (such as Poms, an article on the British, and Alhambra, a Spanish tourist attraction). The WP policy you referred to in your edit summary is a redlink. Andyo2000 (talk) 04:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Disregard - found the policy, point taken. Andyo2000 (talk) 05:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
- Still, instead of simply undoing other editors' work, which represents their time and effort, perhaps you could have taken a moment to verify whether the links you were reverting to were valid articles. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
TEMPLATE:WPMIX & Bartending stub template
Can't seem to find a stub template for WP:BAR, could you point it out or make one up for us? Also, even though categories have been created for Bartending...needing attention, nding infobox, & with comments, etc., the WPMIX template doesn't seem to pass these thru and populate those categories w/o someone creating add'l "NOTE" parameters for the WPMIX template, like "bar-attention" or "bar-needs-infobox", isn't that true? --Funandtrvl (talk) 02:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
- Howdy all - Just a bit of clarification. Stub templates are not linked to or reserved for any particular WikiProject, thus {{bartending-stub}} is not meant for use in an assessment capacity, which seems to be what your project already has in WPMIX. I see that someone has restored the stub type without discussing it at WP:SFD, so I will have to post it over there for discussion. Please feel free to pitch in. Cheers, Pegship (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
When looking at the WPFOOD template, the "pubs" TF parameter is missing from: Image_left, and the attention_cat, infobox_cat and comments_cat switches, and the needs-photo switch. Since it is listed in the Assessment_link section, shouldn't the "pubs" TF parameter be in the other places too? --Funandtrvl (talk) 16:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your work on the WPFOOD template!! And the switches are just brilliant! You should have those added to the main WPBM template, like in the hook or customized section, or at the least, add the info to an advanced features section of the WPBM/doc page. I'm sure the rest of the projects that are interested in customizing their banners would greatly appreciate it! --Funandtrvl (talk) 21:03, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- One interesting observation at Talk:Drinking establishment, when several TF and WP tags are included in the WPFOOD template, it seems to default to the Beer portal and Beer articles needing attention. Is there a way to force it to go to Bartending articles needing attention, instead of the default Beer articles needing attention? Also, how will adding "drink=yes" change it? I assume one could add the WPMIX template with the bar parameter. Just wondering! --Funandtrvl (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
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Fuzzy - good/bad?
I was fuzzy on this whole good/bad thing, thanks for the clarification. --IvoShandor (talk) 07:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Barkeeping and Stub category vs. stub class
Hi. You probably won't like the fact that I agreed with Grutness about stub-sorting and stub-class in bartending, mixed drinks, etc. The two are conceptually related (a short, incomplete article), but the definition of the two is different, how they are identified is different, and the purpose of each template is different. I won't rehash the details here, but I left my response on the discussion page. Thanks for alerting me. Regardless of any confusion over that, I wholeheartedly agree that the category should not be deleted. It's vital to helping to identify barkeeping stubs, which is of great interest to WP:BAR and WP:BARB. Without that, it would be very difficult to do our work. If others don't see that, and we see a lot of consensus building to delete, then let's at least work for a compromise of downmerging (really mixed drinks are more of a subset of bartending articles than vice versa) them into mixed drink stubs. I totally disagree with occupations being the end point of a post-deletion action. Might as well give up on trying to do anything with bartending stubs if that happens, and let them rot in stub purgatory. :-) Of course, I am being facetious, but it's probably not far from what would happen. The focus needs to be on the reasons for keeping the stub sorting template and category (since that's where the discussion is) due to its importance and how it is likely to (or already does) meet the criteria. Any added benefit that the WikiProjects may gain in relation toward assessment is simply a happy coincidence. The documentation seems like a trivial thing, but if people want something to gripe about, I'd say let them delete the docs as long as they keep the template. It would be better to have a few things tagged with the wrong stub tag by accident than dozens of them due to a poor decision reached through consensus. Have a good weekend! —Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 07:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
- "Will said what I was trying to say but I did not properly word it." LOL. That's because I think I used about 10× as many words. At least some of them (you'd think) would be the right ones to use. :-) Thanks for alerting me to this discussion. It's kind of a FUBAR sort of a situation having (apparently) never been properly proposed, then deleted, then recreated (again without discussion), so there's no telling how this might turn out in the end. Whatever happens, we'll make it all work in the end. I really need to get back to editing on b:Bartending, and then Grutness and others would see how I used it in the past. Too bad that real life is getting in the way of my editing. Oh, wait. Real life is what pays my Internet bill. Dang. :-D —Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 12:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Template:Alcoholic beverages
In this reversion of my edit you say that "This template appears on many stubs and the way you rewrote it overwhelms them". Could you cite a few examples please so I can see what you mean? Thanks. TimR (talk) 09:45, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Historic places in Framingham, Massachusetts
I've redirected this page to the Essex County NRHP list for the following reasons:
- There's no need to list the NRHP sites here, since there's a list of them elsewhere.
- Virtually no content (i.e. other than tables, templates, See Alsos, etc.) appears on this page other than NRHP data.
- There's no apparent criterion for inclusion on this page, except for the National Register status that guarantees their being listed elsewhere.
- As a settlement over 350 years old, the number of places that could be deemed "historic" is truly vast, but no definition of "historic" — let alone a reliable source to say why other sites aren't historic — is given by this page.
- Consequently, the entire list — again, aside from the forking NRHP data — is dependent on your point of view, thus violating a core policy. Why is the civic league building included, but not the building across the street?
- Moreover, the page has absolutely no context: we're not told what Framingham is, or where it is, or what register we're talking about, etc.
Furthermore, these are probably the same reasons that other editors have redirected it. Please do not continue to revert this move: there's no good policy-based reason to keep it as is. Nyttend (talk) 04:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I'm so sorry. Otourly and me didn't know that a rounded template was already exist. Please, excuse me for my modifications. But Otourly and me prefer when the corners are rounded in portals. That's why, I have done this little change. With all my excuses Binnette (talk) 18:22, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, it's okay
Oh, it was just user talk page. I saw your name in new users list on Hindi wikipedia, so I just pasted Welcome template to welcome you. Rohit (talk) 15:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your input! Jatlas (talk) 20:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Peer review limits
The guidelines for Wikipedia:Peer review ask that editors nominate no more than one article per day (and four total at any one time). While the rules say that one of the requests can be removed, I will let it slide since this is the first time. Take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- No problem - just wanted to let you know about the limits, take care, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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Mountain Dew
The Mountain Dew logo in question—like any logo made only from letter and geometric shapes is not eligible for Copyright. It does have Trademark protection, but that does not apply in a userbox since it is no more-or-less infringing than an image of a can or bottle (or for that matter even just a brand name). —MJBurrage(T•C) 02:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi. :) Thanks for catching the copyright concerns with this article. I'm thinking, though, that you may have misunderstood the use of the "temporary" page recommended by the template. It is for starting an article from scratch, not for pasting the current contents of the article, including the copyvio. The point is that the copyvio must be removed, and sometimes this requires deleting the article and replacing it with new content. If the copyvio is in the temp article, it would need to be deleted, too. In this case, I haven't finished investigating, but I believe I can find a clean version in the article's history to revert to, deleting all subsequent. Otherwise, I may be able to write a new stub. I'm afraid, though, that the version you placed at Talk:Hogi Yogi/Temp has had to be deleted because it contained copyrighted text. Thanks again for noting the issue so that it might be addressed. --Moonriddengirl (talk)
Did You Know problem
Hello! Your submission of Norman E. Brinker at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Art LaPella (talk) 23:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Gracias. I actually decided to go ahead and have it moved after I posted (I even went to the request for moves page) only to see you were several steps ahead of me. I hope all is well with you and that you're enjoying good eats and good times. As I recall there had been some kind kerfluffle about chili con carne or one of those dishes and where it was from, what was in it, and the photo, so I'm trying to tread lightly. Chili is serious Bizness. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:17, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Your skills are needed!
Hey Jeremy! You've helped the Wine Project out so much before, I figured we could use some of your technical coding & organizational skills. It seems that issues relating to winery articles are becoming more and more frequent. (Take a look at WT:WINE where something relating to a winery article accounts for nearly 80% of the page). I think it would be very useful to the project to have a centralized Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine/Winery Article Noticeboard with sections for WP:COI, WP:POV/WP:ADVERT, on going disputes/edit wars and notability issues. In the case of COI, POV and edit war issues, this can serve as a "watch/to do list" for project members to watchlist the articles and take clean up action if needed. In the case of notability, project members would have a centralized location to discuss if it should be prodded, AfD or if can be improved. Maybe it should include the Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Wine transclusion for winery AfDs. It would be helpful to have template on the Wine Project Talk Page that would be updated with the number of winery articles in each "issues" section (COI/POV/Disputes/Notability) to keep project members informed of the "backlog" of winery issues at the noticeboard. What do you think? Is this something that you would have the time or interest in taking a crack at? AgneCheese/Wine 06:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Cite news
Thanks for your feedback on the Tropicana Products page and the grade in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink category. I was confused with the {{cite news}} item, though, since any citations I added stuck with the formatting described here: Wikipedia:Citing sources/example style. It does say there that some people use templates, but that its not required. Is that what you mean? Thank you so much for the insight. Kat Malone (talk) 21:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I now have Fuddruckers on my watchlist
So if the trivia pops back up we can always tag-team editors in to 3RR. I kid, of course, as I would never suggest such a thing. Darrenhusted (talk) 22:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Peer review
I noticed that Wikipedia:Peer review/Burger King products/archive2 was archived without substantial comments, so I made a few. It looks much better than the last time I reviewed it, but was not sure if you were watching the PR. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Food and Drink interview
Greetings! I have been conducting interviews for the WikiProject Report in The Signpost. I would like to interview you for WikiProject Food and Drink. Are you interested? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 19:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Great! I'll be asking a series of questions relating to Wikiproject Food and Drink. If you don't understand the question or would prefer not to answer it, feel free to add a to the interview page or leave a note on my talk page. I'd like to have this interview ready for the June 28 edition of the Signpost, so I'll keep posting questions until either that day arrives or we have a good solid interview and I can't think of anything else. Feel free to edit/expand any response at any time. Don't worry too much about formatting, as I can just clean up the whole interview before it gets published. Thanks mate! --Cryptic C62 · Talk 22:03, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, I'm an idiot. The interview will take place here. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 17:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Pizza Hut
Dear Jerem43, thank you for your help in battling against the insertion / replacement of Pizza Hut by The Hut. Regards AlexandrDmitri (talk) 15:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Fuddruckers
Done, sorry, I didn't mean to blow you off on my trip out to Boston. I got out there and my buddy had not even packed yet and then we had to rush back to NY as I had a competition to judge this week. I'll give you a call sometime this week.--Chef Tanner (talk) 16:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
WikiProject Adoption
Jeremy, your templates and layouts are excellent. Thanks also for the offer to help. We do have one problem now: the "Category: Start-class articles" is full of articles that are not actually start class. I've tried a manual fix, but that doesn't work. Any ideas? Thanks.Tobit2 (talk) 03:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Wow. Thanks so much Jeremy for helping us so much. We now have a strong foundation.Tobit2 (talk) 15:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Food Portal Featured article
Please do not add articles to the featured article list that you have had a significant part of. If you feel it should be included, please leave a note on the talk page. --Jeremy (blah blah) 01:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't realise that policy existed. I've left a note on the talk page now, requesting its inclusion. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 08:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Wait a minute
The article of Korean cuisine still needs a log of additional sourcing especially for the half part. I think putting it on hold would be a better choice for editors to add more sources in time. --Caspian blue 20:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm...well.. I think I need to get busy for adding sources to passages that do not have inline sources.--Caspian blue 21:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Momo (food)
Hi, I need your help in sorting out an issue about external links to recipes in the article Momo (food). Please look here. The links removed by 74.248.89.30 are to commercial sites, but their purpose is not to advertise these sites. Instead, they provide valid information about recipes that happens to sit on these commercial sites. Therefore in my view they do not fall under the definition of WP:LINKSPAM and can be retained. Do you have an opinion on this? Thanks for your attention. --Zlerman (talk) 12:10, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help merging Hero, Hoagie, and Sub. Now what about these?
Let me know your thoughts. Thanks! BillyTFried (talk) 19:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your support. I'm just curious where you think this fits in. BillyTFried (talk) 19:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
HA! Nice garbage can pic! But I wouldn't exactly call any of this quality food. Greesey fried chopped fatty steak and Cheese Wiz? It's certainly not fine dining. But anyway, my concern is that a French Dip is actually considered a Roast Beef sandwich, rather than a Steak sandwich. And you know more about food than me, but I am not sure if there is a substantial difference, or even if the meat used is really genuine "Roast Beef". But if Roast Beef sandwiches do fall under Steak Sandwiches, then I would think that would include the type that Arby's and Roy Rogers Restaurants sell as well as French Dips, No? Presently there is no article for Roast beef sandwich at all. BillyTFried (talk) 20:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Cincy chili
I've always been a big fan of our work to fast food articles and your tips on new BK items, but I have to respectfully disagree on the "merge" suggestion on Cincy chili. I agree with the massive de-crapification that you've done to the article, but it needs cleanup and sourcing from someone with access to adequate sources.
Heck, I'm half-tempted to send you a can so you can taste the difference yourself. :) youngamerican (wtf?) 00:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- You gotta go to Covington, KY and get some Dixie. Oh, and sorry that you had to spend time in Dayton. *cold shiver. youngamerican (wtf?) 00:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Adoption Project
Jeremy, I added some importance classes to the Adoption Stats table. But now it shows up too large on the Adoption project page. Could you show me how to reduce its size in the panel view? Thanks.
Jeremy, please do not change the scheme for assessments. It has been adopted from the Mil. History project and is useful. Please undelete the pages you requested for speedy delete. Thanks.Tobit2 (talk) 16:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again Jeremy for enhancing the project. As for the A, B, and C, and Start articles criteria: more specific criteria were adopted to make assessment easier. The standard criteria are much too general, making consistent assessment more difficult. Perhaps the team working on the overall standards for Wikipedia would like to consider the specific criteria adopted here. I can raise the issue on their Talk page.Tobit2 (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Cupcakes
We still don't seem to agree on much. :) I hope all is well with you. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Re:Thank You
Hey, no problem. I came across the image today, and was looking for a PD tag to replace it, but finally found one that fit under the non-free tags that looks like it was custom made for town seals.--Monkeybait (talk) 23:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey. The discussion is still going strong on Talk:Delmonico's Restaurant, so I was wondering if maybe you could further chime in on what you wrote before. Thanks. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 17:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Congratulations!
Hey, I accidentally found your interview with WikiSignpost this week, congratulation, now you're joining Wiki-celebrity? :) Best regards.--Caspian blue 18:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Listing merger proposals
I listed those six at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, to get as much exposure as possible. I generally find mergers attract very little feedback. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Proposed merges and question on Capicola vs. Coppa
Ok, I'll check them out. (proposed merges) By the way, on Wikipedia Capicola and Coppa are treated as synonymous, but I am still finding places that actually serve them as two different things. On the talk page for it I posted a photo I took a while back where they actually explain the difference, and now I ran into another place the other day and I took a pic you can see here. I can only imagine the places serving them are writing on their boards exactly what is says on the package it comes in, but I dunno if that means much. I think at the very least the article should address this is some way. What are your thoughts? Thanks. BillyTFried (talk) 19:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
I added my input on every proposed merge you mentioned to me. No comments on Capicola/Coppa? BillyTFried (talk) 20:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
OR noticeboard
There are new messages regarding the cheeseburger material at the OR noticeboard, please respond.— Dædαlus Contribs 19:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nevermind.— Dædαlus Contribs 19:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Re: Message regarding Natick Collection
Well then you might as well add "The" to the Shoppers World article, that is also a name of a mall yet that title isn't "The Shoppers World".
You should also read up on the policies, it is NOT commercial advertising, it is proper English grammar.
I am a university student studying English and I have asked my professor regarding this issue, he says that the article "The" should NOT proceed a proper noun such as this one. It is a name of a mall and adding the article "The" isn't correct.
Like my professor told me, you wouldn't add the article "The" to store names, movie theatres, et cetera, so why would you for a mall? When we start saying "Let's go to THE AMC" or "Let's go to THE Sears" or "Let's go to THE Shopper's World" or "Let's go to THE Stop & Shop", then you can add the "The" but until then, please follow proper English grammar and drop the article, or add "The" to the hundreds of thousands of other Wiki pages for stores, malls, et cetera. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.13.99 (talk) 22:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
- English is not a highly structured language like French, it is a living language that has certain peculiarities that are not present in other language. It is perfectly okay to make a grammatically correct statement like this: I am going to catch the new Harry Potter movie over at the AMC in Framingham, then go home an throw a steak on the grill that I bought at the Stop & Shop on Old Connecticut Path. So yes, you can use an article in describing proper names. You would never use a "the" with Shoppers' world because of the nature of the name in question. There is no adjective in the name, it is a possessive name Shoppers' and its object of possession World. As I state below, in this instance Natick isn't a noun, but an adjective modifying the noun Collection. It is similar to the term red Ford where red isn't a noun but a modifier of the word Ford.
- This is a stylistic guideline, not a rule as you are trying to say. As such, trying to change this format just because you don't like that particular style is bad form. Further, the three major newspapers in the region, The Boston Globe, The Boston Herald and The MetroWest Daily News, all use this guideline in their articles about the subject and I will defer to their knowledge of the English language over that of a WPI college student.
Vetting
Have you done anything recently that would torpedo an RFA? I mean other that getting pwned on the Cincy chili merge. :P Let me know if you are interested. youngamerican (wtf?) 22:28, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
- 1. I'm a dude. 2. I'm not from Ohio. youngamerican (wtf?) 11:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- Nope. I'm just an aficionado of Cincy chili. Dixie, Goldstar, Skyline: it is all delicious. As for adminship, is it something that you'd want someday? youngamerican (wtf?) 18:03, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
RfA Nom
- Click here for more on what to do next. youngamerican (wtf?) 18:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for understanding my issue and finally addressing it. I don't however understand your claim that I accused you of plagarism. Can you please explain? All I accused you of was violating of Wikipedia policies and guidelines, two of which, Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines, you continued to violate in your last post.