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November 5

Help with references

Hello

I am having some trouble formatting my references for my entry. Could you possibly help me so they are correctly formatted?

Thank you

Kelli C. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmarieclark (talk • contribs) 00:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I see that your first contribution is a new article, Sheldon Fields. I've inserted a "holder" for your footnotes, ready for when you get around to writing them (inserting numbers is neither necessary nor sufficient). —Tamfang (talk) 00:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Barry County

Barry County, MO really should have the main page of the GenWeb History and Genealogy site linked to it and not a minor page. I am the coordinator for the county and have a very large amount of data posted that is useful to those interested in both history and genealogy.

The one page you have posted is for the local historical society and is on my web site but it is a very minor page. The main page has a link to that one page you have listed.

Please link the main page given at the link below, because it is where people enter and where they search find the search box.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mobarry/barry.htm

Thank You, Donna Cooper, Administrator and Coordinator, Barry County, MOGenWeb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.165.226 (talk) 00:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Why not bring this up at Talk:Barry County, Missouri, or make the change yourself? —Tamfang (talk) 02:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I would not have said that this link meets the criteria in WP:EL anyway. --ColinFine (talk) 18:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Adding a new column to a table

I am planning on adding a new column to the table at Georges Méliès filmography and was wondering if there are any shortcuts. The table is incredibly long and it would take quite some time to add the extra | for each row manually. Is there a quick way to add an extra | to the code for each row? I don't really expect that there is, but I would hate to take the time to do this all manually, if there is a faster way. --Jpcase (talk) 02:10, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The way that I'd try to do it would be to copy the source of that page into a text editor and then use the text editor's find/replace function to replace all the "|-" characters with another pipe, an enter/return, and the original "|-". Dismas|^(talk) 02:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea. Thanks. What exactly is a text editor though? Is that like Microsoft Word? Also, what is "return"? --Jpcase (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Microsoft Word will work, as will any other editor. I personally use Notepad for things like this, because it does not mess with formatting. "Return" is the same as "Enter". Some computers say one thing, other computers say the other.    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 04:06, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Microsoft Word's replace function seems unable to support enter. Do you know of a way to make this work? --Jpcase (talk) 04:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

In MS Word version 4 (1989), "^p" represented end-of-paragraph in a search/replace field. Dunno if it still works. —Tamfang (talk) 04:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Incidentally, I also don't know what (if anything) works in LibreOffice. —Tamfang (talk) 10:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

[ec] Type ^p in the find/replace box where you want a return character.    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 04:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

For why it's called a return, see carriage return. Those people, such as myself, who are old enough to remember typewriters often use "return" instead of "enter" which is what is printed on the key on a keyboard to make the cursor move to the next line. Dismas|^(talk) 10:07, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

^p did the trick! Thanks a ton to all three of you! --Jpcase (talk) 14:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

2012 Editor Survey

I logged in and got a link to the 2012 editor survey, which I would like to take. Unfortunately, I accidentally clicked away from it, as I was in the process of editing an article. The Wikimedia page regarding the surveys says there is a link available if the survey is missed, any chance I could get the link? Skrelk (talk) 03:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

See meta:Research:Wikipedia Editor Survey 2012#Why will a user see the link to the survey only once? How? I guess you can use the address at meta:Research:Wikipedia Editor Survey August 2012/Questions#INTRODUCTION SCREEN. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

File

I have been doing editing from some time but never tried my hand on files and images(insert very few free images only).Then, Which is the best place(with whom) for image and file related questions.?---zeeyanketu ^{talk to me} 05:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I guess the best place would be Commons:Help desk --Anbu121 (talk me) 05:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

And there is a noticeboard here too: Wikipedia:Media copyright questions --Anbu121 (talk me) 06:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Commons accept only free images without any copyright status issues but my query is about using files from websites in articles.---zeeyanketu ^{talk to me} 09:20, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Check if this helps you:Wikipedia:Non-free content --Anbu121 (talk me) 09:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Casino NSW notable people

Article deleted by auther casinolad.

Erica Lennard birthdate incorrect

The date on my information for my birthday is incorrect. I was born in 1950. can you please correct this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.163.48 (talk) 15:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

We don't currently have an article called Erica Lennard although your name is mentioned in a couple of places, so it would help if you could let us know where this wrong birth date is. Thanks, Rojomoke (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

This is a help desk for the English Wikipedia and our search function is only for English. With a Google search I found an article at the French Wikipedia with a wrong year. I have fixed it.[1] Thanks for notifying us. For another time, click "Français" in the left pane to get to a help page for the French Wikipedia. Many of their editors speak English. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:53, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Deleting a page

Hello...I am trying to delete a page that I created named Terry McKenzie, how can I go about doing that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jupaterr (talk • contribs) 17:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Header added. --ColinFine (talk) 18:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

In general an article will be deleted only if a case is made for deleting it under the deletion procedure.The article is certainly very odd: You created it two years ago about Terry McKenzie, but on 31 Oct the IP user User:173.226.69.226 edited it to be about Marcell Padilla. Unless this is a hoax, perhaps rather than deleting it, it should be moved to Marcell Padilla. --ColinFine (talk) 18:46, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

I think someone was trying to create a new article but edited the McKenzie article instead. I have undone all the "Padilla edits".--ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Bug report

So, I deleted wrong information from an article called "Lusitanians" and it keeps coming back! It's not even much, it's just one sentence, and one of the times I even provided sources saying that bit was wrong and they still deleted it!

The part that's wrong is the following (on the section "Contemporary meaning": "Lusitanic is at present a term used to categorize persons who share the linguistic and cultural traditions of the Portuguese-speaking nations and territories of Portugal, Brazil, Macau, Timor-Leste, Angola, Mozambique, Cape Verde, São Tomé and Príncipe, Guinea Bissau and others."

This information is wrong. Proof: lusitano lu.si.ta.no1 adj (lat lusitanu) 1 Que diz respeito à Lusitânia ou aos seus habitantes. 2 Que se refere a Portugal ou aos portugueses; lusitânico. sm 1 Habitante ou natural da Lusitânia. 2 Português. Var: luso. (Translation: Lusitanian: 1. That's relative to Lusitania or its inhabitants. 2. That refers to Portugal or the Portuguese people, Lusitanic. Sm 1. Inhabitant or natural of Lusitania. 2. Portuguese. Variant: Luso)

This word does not include people from Portugal's ex-colonies because the word for that is Lusophone (lusófono, in Portuguese).

The definition of that word is the following: lusófono lu.só.fo.no adj+sm (luso2+fono) 1 Diz-se do, ou o indivíduo que fala português. 2 Diz-se do, ou o indivíduo ou povo que, não tendo o português como seu vernáculo, fala-o por cultura ou por adoção como língua franca, tal como acontece em regiões africanas e asiáticas que sofreram influência dos antigos colonos portugueses. Var: lusófone. ( Translation lusophone: 1 It's say of, or the individual that speaks Portuguese. 2. It's said of the individual that speaks Portuguese as official language, even if it's not the native one, like in some African and Asian regions. Variation: lusófone (in English, it would be the same thing: Lusophone))

Source: http://michaelis.uol.com.br (Michaelis - Brazilian dictionary)

Please, fix this bug. ThePortuguese (talk) 18:55, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

It's not a bug. Your edits are being reverted because other editors don't agree with you. Please discuss on the article's talk page at Talk:Lusitanians.--ukexpat (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

You should understand also that the meaning of words in English is not limited by the meaning of cognate words in other languages like Portuguese. So for a reference you would need an English dictionary. —teb728 t c 20:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

How to share my view about something?

How to share my view about something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jipsydoll (talk • contribs) 19:13, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

If you have an opinion about improving a Wikipedia article, you can visit that article's talk page. If you just want to give your views about some other subject, there are plenty of online forums on the internet. Try searching for some suitable keywords including the subject you wish to talk about and maybe the word "forum" or "chat". Astronaut (talk) 19:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Without more than that, I would suggest Facebook, MySpace or a blog. Wikipedia is about sharing knowledge which has been reported in reliable third-party sources, not about sharing one's own views. If you want to share your views about the best way to edit something within Wikipedia, use the talk page of the article you wish to improve via the "Talk" link on the article page. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:39, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

That's weird, how did my comment get on top of yours with no edit conflict? Astronaut (talk) 19:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

How to change an article written and rejected.

Article written title: What is Liminal Art? This was rejected due to copyright infringement questions. I have revised the article to avoid this, but can't seem to get to the page to make my change. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bronton Cheja (talk • contribs) 19:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

The deleted page was at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/What is Liminal Art?. Note though that "articles" titled "What is..." are unlikely to meet Wikipedia's inclusions policies. Please take a look at WP:Your first article and the other links that I have just posted on you talk page.--ukexpat (talk) 19:29, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

You could start by first adding something about art to the Liminality article which does not have any content at all about art. Roger (talk) 19:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Also note that the deleted article had copyright problems (it actually had a copyright notice embedded in it.) Any replacement article will have to be written to be clear of other people's copyrights. RJFJR (talk) 20:43, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Jonfoerster

Hi. How long does google take to refresh its cache? This wiki page was deleted last Friday but it still shows up in google search. Thanks in advance!

Jonfoerster (talk) 22:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

My guess would have been a week or two – though it's really a question for Google, not for Wikipedia. But it seems to have cleared it already, when I Google for "Jonfoerster" I don't find a Wikipedia article. Maproom (talk) 22:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

November 6

Table help

How can I make the letters D and I and S and I to have equal spacing in between each other, half way down the next box.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 02:25, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

P	Name	Portrait	Birth	Marriages	Death
I	Magnus I Olafsson Magnus the Good 1035–1047		c. 1024 Illegitimate son of Olaf II and Alfhild	Never married	25 October 1047 Zealand
D
S	Magnus VII Eriksson August 1319– 15 August 1343 (deposed)		c. 1316 Norway or Stockholm only son of Eric, Duke of Södermanland and Ingeborg of Norway	Blanche of Namur 5 November 1335 Bohus Castle two sons	1 December 1374 Lyngholmen aged 58
S	Haakon VI Magnusson 1343–1380		15 August 1340 Sweden second son of Magnus IV and Blanche of Namur	Margaret of Denmark 9 April 1363 Church of Our Lady one son	11 September 1380 Akershus Castle aged 40
I

I've done it, by replacing "I" etc. by a no-break space, a linebreak, "I", a linebreak, and a no-break space. This is a bit of a bodge – maybe someone knows a more proper way. Maproom (talk) 11:18, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

P	Name	Portrait	Birth	Marriages	Death
I	Magnus I Olafsson Magnus the Good 1035–1047		c. 1024 Illegitimate son of Olaf II and Alfhild	Never married	25 October 1047 Zealand
D
S	Magnus VII Eriksson August 1319– 15 August 1343 (deposed)		c. 1316 Norway or Stockholm only son of Eric, Duke of Södermanland and Ingeborg of Norway	Blanche of Namur 5 November 1335 Bohus Castle two sons	1 December 1374 Lyngholmen aged 58
S	Haakon VI Magnusson 1343–1380		15 August 1340 Sweden second son of Magnus IV and Blanche of Namur	Margaret of Denmark 9 April 1363 Church of Our Lady one son	11 September 1380 Akershus Castle aged 40
I

Where Were You on the Night Batman Was Killed? > Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?

there is a link as titled above on this page ----> Batman: Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader? & nothing for it to go to..... why?

Here is a possible source of information! http://www.comics.org/story/name/Where%20Were%20You%20On%20The%20Night%20Batman%20Was%20Killed%3F/sort/alpha/ StefanBren (talk) 03:48, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The link works fine for me. What error are you seeing? RudolfRed (talk) 03:14, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

--Having just signed up i now have a different page (one that says Creating Where Were You on the Night Batman Was Killed?) before it was telling me Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Where Were You on the Night Batman Was Killed? in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings. So my query is such, why is it linked up with nowhere to go? Is it simply waiting for someone to create the article is that why it's linked? StefanBren (talk) 03:48, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's what a red link means. If someone does write an article on "Where Were You...?", this link is ready to find it. While it's red, maybe someone able to write that other article will see the red link and be nudged to do so. It's a reminder that Wikipedia will never be complete! —Tamfang (talk) 05:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

A red link means that an article hasn't been written about that topic. When someone isn't signed in, they can't create an article. So the page that they see is just a search page. When someone is signed in, they can create the article and are given the option to do so. See more at WP:REDLINK. Dismas|^(talk) 05:34, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Nineteenth-century end-times cult

I'm looking for a book I saw once about a man who led a missions movement overseas in the latter half of the nineteenth century because he believed he was helping to usher in the second coming of Christ in his generation. A lot of people on his team ended up dying and he was brought back to America to be tried for manslaughter. Does anyone know the name of this book, or the man about whom it was written?

Thanks bunches : ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.87.167.235 (talk) 06:03, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

You'll have better luck asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. —Tamfang (talk) 06:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The man was probably Frank Sandford. There is a bibliography at the end of the article which may be of assistance in locating the book. Hack (talk) 07:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

no complete content as a list

i searched for list of appellations around the world,like the list for other topics, there is no list for this topic which is hard to gather info about. so please try to handle this topic asap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinvml (talk • contribs) 06:35, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what sort of list you are looking for. If you are looking for appellations like AOC, we do have an article titled Appellation which does lead to certain lists such as List of Appellation d'Origine Contrôlée wines which covers French wines alone. I don't think Wikipedia, as yet, has a complete list of every protected appellation for every single foodstuff in every single country in the world. I don't think there's anything wrong with eventually having that level of coverage at Wikipedia, its just that none of our volunteers (we're all volunteers, by the way) has created it yet. If you have an interest in this area, you are certainly invited to help out. We could certainly use it! --Jayron32 06:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

NetZealous LLC

Dear MathewVanitas, Thanks for your review of my article on my company, NetZealous LLC. Honestly, I didn't quite understand the reason for which it was selected for speedy deletion. I request you to please let me know what is Line 23 that is mentioned in your comment. Is it the 23rd line of my contribution that needs to be edited? If yes, I would be very grateful if you let me know what is wrong with my references. If you feel that my company's url, NetZealous.com has to be deleted, I will do it. If that is the only part that is to be changed, I will do so immediately. Looking forward to another quick response! Regards, Ravindra G. Rao — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravimanz (talk • contribs) 07:25, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Are you asking about your draft article at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/NetZealous LLC? It was not deleted, but it was declined in its present form because "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule." See those links for what we are looking for. You ask what is wrong with your references: a major part of what is wrong with the draft is that there are no references at all. —teb728 t c 07:35, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

As well as the references problem, it is basically an advertisement masquerading as an article.--ukexpat (talk) 13:59, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Definitive fact, referenced fact, referenced opinion

I would really love some help with an issue that has infected two separate talk pages (Talk:Ubuntu (operating system) and Talk:Adware).

In my mind, there are three types of statements we make on Wikipedia.

1) Definitive facts, which are true by definition, internally self-consistent with the uncontroversial WP definition of that term. Example: "A is the first letter and vowel in the ISO basic Latin alphabet", in A (letter). No reference is required for these.

2) Referenced facts - facts which are not ipso facto true, so a reference is required. Example: "The earliest certain ancestor of "A" is aleph (also called 'aleph), the first letter of the Phoenician alphabet", in A (letter).

3) Referenced opinion - subjective facts which are open to debate. Example "Time has stated that the issue of bodily privacy is "the core" of the abortion debate," in Abortion debate.

Many articles combine all three. Generally most articles open with statements of class 1, elaborate with a mix of class 1 and 2, and then offer a few notable statements of class 3.

Innocently, I made an edit to Ubuntu (operating system), describing it as adware, since it fit what I thought was the uncontroversial definition of the term. Numerous editors took me to task over this - it seems that the word "adware" has pejorative connotations, so the term is only appropriate to be used in a class 3 statement. Fine, I conceded that, but was then forced to link to the generic advertising entry which gave readers no specific information on the rendition of advertising in software user interfaces, its history, reception, etc. That to me is a failing of the encyclopedia. So how to fix it? I proposed renaming adware to a neutral term, and limiting the use of the "adware" term to a section of that article that makes clear the contentious nature of the term. But that was roundly rejected.

Leaving it lie for a while, now someone is modifying adware to eliminate all reference to anything negative, yet still using the word adware. I suggested this was not consistent with the consensus criticism I received at the Ubuntu entry, and now I am copping resistance to that, too!

I'm honestly ready to throw my hands up and give up on trying to create a self-consistent, neutral, verifiable encyclopedia. I must be missing something. The issue now spans two entries and in any case no-one on those pages seems interested in constructive discussion. It's all just "no no no".

We need something better than having a) nothing more specific to definitively link to in sense 1 other than the generic advertising, and b) an entry (adware) which purports to be a neutral and definitive term yet will be trashed by editors any time it is linked to in sense 1, and so will only ever really be able to be used in sense 3.

I've heard enough of people telling me what we can't do. I've tried to craft solutions but all I get back from 50 different angles is "no no no". I am not trying to push a particular point of view other than that the encyclopedia should be as comprehensive, specific and useful as possible. All of my suggestions have been rejected but no-one has put up a decent alternative. Will someone just tell me what to do, so we can go ahead and get on with the job of creating a decent encyclopedia? --Russell E (talk) 08:44, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Help adding Geo-coords for Butts Bridge in List of bridges on the National Register of Historic Places in Connecticut

Hi all,
Bing Maps says "41.651199 -71.970901". How to add that to the list (and the article) is proving well beyond my abilities.
Help!-- Shirt "not good with numbers" 58 (talk) 09:51, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

How about {{coord|41.651199|-71.970901|type:landmark}}? That gives 41.651199°N 71.970901°W / 41.651199; -71.970901. See {{coord}} for more options. —teb728 t c 11:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)  Fixed You were on the right track. The code would be {{Coord|41.651199|N|71.970901|W|name=Butts Bridge|type:landmark}} (since you got the coordinates in decimal format, you don't need all the vertical bars (|) in between the numbers. Since the display on the list is inline, the right parameter would be display=inline (inline is default, so it does not have to manually be specified), but in the article it should be display=title. I went ahead and added it in both places for you.

Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 11:26, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

I improved the precision to hit the bridge (you were 15m south), and changed the coordinate format at http://geographiclib.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/GeoConvert.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:38, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The infobox had coords, which were set to display inline and in the title, but doubled up the title display. However, the two sets do not match. I assume someone who recently worked on this knows which one is right.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed The OP gave me a coordinate and I added it, but PrimeHunter made the coordinate more precise. In Butts Bridge I added the coordinate to the top of the article manually, PrimeHunter fixed the coordinate, but Doncram added an infobox with my slightly inaccurate coordinate.

So basically, the later coordinate (PrimeHunter's) is the correct coordinate. Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 19:26, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Ask about semi protection

I'm one of the users in the Korean Wikipedia. In English Version, do users set semi-protection on the candidates until the election ends? In Korean Wikipedia policy, the semi-protection could not be set by the reason that the article only has expectation of damages. Is it a policy to set semi-protection on articles of candidates, which can easily harmed(?), until the election? --위키백과당! (talk) 12:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

It seems to me that the English Wikipedia doesn't have such a rule. WP:SEMI doesn't mention it and I am not aware of any such rule. As far as I know, EN Wikipedia only semi-protects articles which are the subject of ongoing vandalism or disruption. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:20, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

So, 'expected' vandalism cannot be semi-protected article? How did the Obama and Romney articles are in semi-protection? --위키백과당! (talk) 13:26, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The page protection policy specifically states that "protection should not be used as a preemptive measure against vandalism that has not yet occurred". We do not protect pages pre-emptively; however, in the case of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, past vandalism was sufficient to warrant indefinite protection of both pages. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:41, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

 Confirmed thanks for the answers --위키백과당! (talk) 13:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Title formats

Hi, I'm just looking at titles and wondering what the correct formats are. On St John's Hospital we see a number of similar articles but different formats for the title where the place name is either separated by a comma as in St John's Hospital, Livingston or by braces as in St. John's Hospital (Springfield, Illinois). Is there a correct way, and if so which one is it? Thanks! Philipjohn21 (talk) 16:42, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Oddly, WP:NCDAB seems to imply that both are technically correct... as this is a hospital, and not an actual geographic location, I'd say that the (Springfield, Illinois) method is the more correct. I'm not sure, however; this may be best discussed as part of a requested move discussion for one or the other. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 18:35, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Chateau Marmont Wikipedia revisions

Hi,

I am writing with questions pertaining to Chateau Marmont's wikipedia page.

I noticed three postings for edit suggestions by wiki-editors The Banner, Comatmebro, and Mr. Ollie. All three cited the article was too promotional based and had excessive name dropping. Mr. Ollie actually did delete the material he did not see fit.

All the information provided on the Chateau Marmont's page was correctly referenced by reliable sources as advised by Wikipedia. The large list of famous guests who stayed at the hotel was not name dropping but part of the hotel's history. I have researched similar hotel pages such as The Sunset Tower and The Beverly Hills Wilshire which both do include lengthy lists of previous guests as well.

I do realize that Wikipedia is not a promotion based site and therefore understand some cleaning up some of the very descriptive adjectives and phrases.

Would there be a way to include the famous guest and their historic stories while following Wiki guidelines? Maybe adding a famous guest section toward the end that list the names of people who have stayed at the hotel.

Thank you and I look forward to your suggestions! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsteriov86 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Such information would be more appropriate for Wikimedia Travel Guide, which will be created soon. Ruslik_Zero 18:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Page Taken Down

To Whom it May Concern,

I was validating and citing information for Paul Summerville's page when his page was deleted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Summerville). There has been some attacks on the page claiming biased and non-cited text (a problem I was trying to resolve)when immediately prior to it being deleted. Could you please restore his page to the form it was at 10:30AM PST November 6, 2012. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbaumgartner (talk • contribs) 18:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Since that deletion came about after a deletion discussion here, you will need to make that request through deletion review, though if you just want a copy of the page to work on in your userspace, you can also make a request to the deleting administrator. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:07, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Is this WP:OUTING?

IP editor 109.65.216.37 pointed out that the user Chovesh had made COI edits to the article WheelTug and included a link to the user's Linkedin profile.[3] Chovesh had posted his name in a past talk page edit years ago,[4] but never directly disclosed an affiliation with the subject. Would this count as outing? If so, should that edit be redacted? Thanks. --Drm310 (talk) 19:16, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

No - as recently demonstrated on WP:ANI, if someone reveals their true name, they can't be outed by anouther user, as that information is already kicking around. Mdann52 (talk) 19:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Punte Balurte vs. Mullau Viaduct

Hello!

This is message is regarding the incorrect information on the Millau Viaduct article.

It is not the tallest bridge in the world. The tallest bridge is the Puente Baluarte located un Durango, Mexico.

Please correct that information for me. Than you!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.121.253 (talk) 19:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for that?--ukexpat (talk) 19:39, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The Millau Viaduct is the tallest, with the highest point of the structure being 343m above the lowest point. The Baluarte Bridge is the highest, with the road being 403m above the bottom of valley; but it is not as tall as the Millau Viaduct, as no part of it is in the valley. See List of highest bridges in the world for more details. Maproom (talk) 19:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The List of highest bridges in the world actually gives that honor to the Sidu River Bridge. --Onorem♠Dil 19:47, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

False Postings

If someone posts false information I know it can be removed which has been done - what recourse is there if the poster continues to repost it? Can I put a warning on the site stating that action will be taken action the poster if this continues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GaryRichardson4110 (talk • contribs) 19:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The first (and best) thing you can do is talk with the user on either that user's talk page or the talk page of the article. If that is unsuccessful, you can try the WP:3rr noticeboard. If THAT is no help, there is always WP:ANI as a last resort. Livewireo (talk) 19:56, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

The material in question was unsourced contentious information about a living person which was, whether true or false, properly removed under the BLP policy. I've left a warning on the talk page of the user who was posting that information. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:22, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

PS: If the material is reinserted, feel free to immediately remove it and report the matter to info-enwikimedia.org. Do not make any legal threats towards either that user or towards Wikipedia itself, however, as doing so will almost certainly get you immediately blocked or banned under Wikipedia's legal threats policy. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:28, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Problem, someone keeps changing my entry

I did an entry in subject: Prezrenje ; Its my village Somebody keeps deleting it, 2 ppl, first one had a right because i wrote about my selfe not just the village, second one had no right He said i had no refrence source, whats that soposed to mean it my village i live there i am the source So i write in references its a word spoken reference from my grandfather to me And he deleted it anyway i mean cmon Its my village i live here, my gradfater and everybody here knows the story, so its not written in a book we got 24-30 houses in our village who is gonna write about us I just ask you can i protect the page or something couse some ppl have too much time on their hands, if he wants his day in court with his refrenc folder i wouldnt be surprised, couse this cantb be his job couse his doing it badly Say to him go to work, work for your country not hores inosent ppl with this bull***

I promis you story about my village is trou, and why would i wont to write a lie, its nothing special, its just something about my village i want to share with other.. is that so wrong?? If he wants a referenc go and find it you tell him (he has allot of time), inocent until proven quilty

Thank you for your time, pardon for any typos

Regards, Mitja — Preceding unsigned comment added by MitjaBene (talk • contribs) 20:00, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but "spoken word" is not a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes. You will need to find a reliable source that supports your edit.--ukexpat (talk) 20:05, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

As the expat said: we only allow articles with verifiable sources, which means reliable, published sources with a neutral point of view. Your personal recollections, verbal accounts and the like do not meet our minimum standards. Look at articles like Maple Works, Wisconsin or Deanburg, Tennessee to see what we need. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:08, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Suggest article

I've been trying to suggest an article about layers mash/pellets (chicken food), but can't work out how to do it or find a suitable category. Please help.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.199.23 (talk • contribs)

You may make such suggestions at articles for creation. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:31, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Chicken feed currently redirects to Bird food, which is a brief article that has only one short paragraph about chicken feed. Roger (talk) 21:13, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

As someone who both edits Wikipedia and has chickens, I don't see why we need a separate article for chicken feed. Dismas|^(talk) 00:39, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

As someone who grew up on a chicken farm, sort of, I'm stunned that we don't have an article on chicken feed. I would have expected a dab, with one link to the colloquialism and another to a proper article.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:41, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I've created an article at Poultry feed. We must not be chickenist here. Ducks are poultry too, and it is crucial that we do not forget the ducks. It's currently a stub, but I'm planning on expanding it for DYK.--xanchester (t) 21:46, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Need to redirect to disambiguation page

Hello, I recently created a disambiguation page for Renaissance Party here: Renaissance Party (disambiguation)

However, when the term "Renaissance Party" is searched on Wikipedia it redirects instead to this page: Renaissance Party

When the term is searched for, there should be a redirect to the disambiguation page instead. Thank you,David O. Johnson (talk) 20:50, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Unless a friendly administrator sees this and makes the appropriate move, you will have to request it as a technical move at WP:Requested moves.--ukexpat (talk) 21:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

• Another thing that you could do is add a Hatnote, that links to the disambiguation page, to the "Renaissance Party" page. LittleBen (talk) 06:00, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Specifically, you would use {{Redirect|Renaissance Party}}, which yields:

"Renaissance Party" redirects here. For other uses, see Renaissance Party (disambiguation).

Does that help? - Purplewowies (talk) 06:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

It looks like someone has already done exactly that. Thank you for your help. David O. Johnson (talk) 07:09, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Maybe the Redirect hatnote only appears when you search for "Renaissance Party" and land on the page, whereas the About hatnote that I linked to is always displayed.   LittleBen (talk) 07:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

There is clearly no primary topic here so I have edited the redirect at Renaissance Party to point to Renaissance Party (disambiguation), rather than to Ennahda Movement.--ukexpat (talk) 14:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

And I changed the hatnote at Ennahda Movement.--ukexpat (talk) 15:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Category:Navboxes using background colours

Does anyone know the purpose of this Category:Navboxes using background colours? Is there some rule against using background colors and if so, is there some expectation to remove the BG color from all these navboxes (over 41,000 at the time of writing this note? Thanks Illia Connell (talk) 22:38, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

withdraw question Illia Connell (talk) 02:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

November 7

New article

Could someone please move "User:Hardy1956/sandbox" to the main Wikipedia server? It has been under comment status for over six weeks and is probably ready to move on.

Thanks Hardy1956 (talk)

It was moved to The Beta Test Initiation on September 15.--ukexpat (talk) 14:04, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Skip to bottom

I noticed a handy 'Skip to bottom' link (top right) on this page. I couldn't find a template or whatever in the page source. Is there some way to get one of those handy links for my talk page? ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 00:11, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

[[#footer|Skip to the bottom]]. Scarce2 (talk) 00:18, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks ~E 74.60.29.141 (talk) 00:23, 7 November 2012 (UTC) I still don't see where it is in the source, however.

The help desk header uses the template {{Skip to bottom}}, which includes this link. Scarce2 (talk) 00:30, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Two Coordinates, One Page

The page for Namoratunga, an archaeoastronomical site, needs two sets of coordinates because, there are two locations at the site. I have the added both locations but doing so causes them to stack one on top of the other at the top of the page. Any idea how to fix this?

Thanks in advance Powered by the Human Spirit Mhotep (talk) 01:32, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

• The asterisk puts the second one on a new line. I removed the asterisk, is that what you want? LittleBen (talk) 05:56, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
  • That's not what they were referring to. They're talking about the cords at the top right-hand corner of the page. Dismas|^(talk) 07:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
• Unfortunately, there's no way to display more than one set of coordinates in the title position. The best that can be done in a case like yours, Mhotep, is to make both sets of coordinates display inline, with neither displaying in the title position. I've edited the article to show one way of doing this. (If you want to link to maps displaying both locations simultaneously, add a {{GeoGroup}} template below the reference section.) Deor (talk) 09:17, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Deor...I knew it would take something beyond the conventional way of displaying coordinates to make it presentable. Thanks also LittleBen and Dismas for your input. I will add the Geogroup template as Deor suggested as well.

Powered by the Human Spirit Mhotep (talk) 16:33, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

WP links prohibited?

Do some sites prohibit links from WP or something? Example: I was attempting to link to N Y Time's "TimesMachine" using their 'permalink' - it works fine from anyplace I've tried except WP (bookmarks, email links, etc.). I can't seem to find 'Help' for <span class="plainlinks"></span>, but suspect that is what I'm looking for. Anyway, is there some way to format a functional link that looks like #1?

1. TimesMachine browser
2. This link doesn't work: http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/ (ctrl-click)"><code>http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/</code>
3. This "</code>" works: http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/
4. Copy/paste works fine: http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/

You can see what I'm trying to do here:[5] ~Stumped, ~Eric F 74.60.29.141 (talk) 04:58, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

• Try it without the vertical bar, not [http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/browser/1912/04/16/| TimesMachine browser]
• but rather [http://timesmachine.nytimes.com/browser/1912/04/16/ TimesMachine browser]  (see Help:Link and the Cite web template). The vertical bar is used when Wikilinking within Wikipedia. LittleBen (talk) 05:40, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

This works for me: TimesMachine browser. The veritical bar is sending the link to a bad URL. RudolfRed (talk) 05:41, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks - that was too easy, I was expecting something complicated. ;) ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 06:12, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Dracorex page.

Please guys don't mix up fables with science, the page about "Dracorex" it's an offence to wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.5.162.50 (talk) 08:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

The article appears sufficiently well sourced to meet notability criteria, and is clear that there is controversy over the subject, with some experts viewing the sole specimen as a misidentification of a juvenile Pachycephalosaurus. Discussions about the article's exact content and wording belong at Talk:Dracorex. - Karenjc 08:55, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Apollo 11 lunar sample display, Apollo 17 lunar sample display

I have 2 PCs at home and can ONLY see the remark of User talk:Vejvančický of the 3 articles he Reviewed and his remark of The articles are new, long enough, neutral, well referenced and interesting. I didn't notice any copyright infringement. The hook is a bit longer (it lists more than 30 articles). There has since been 2 additional comments: one by 62.25.109.197 and another 03:20, 7 November 2012‎ Berean Hunter. These I can ONLY see Template:Did you know nominations/Apollo 11 lunar sample display, Apollo 17 lunar sample display: Difference between revisions. Why? Happens on BOTH my PCS that these remarks do NOT show up when I look at Template:Did you know nominations/Apollo 11 lunar sample display, Apollo 17 lunar sample display. Do you see the comments of 62.25.109.197 and Berean Hunter in Template:Did you know nominations/Apollo 11 lunar sample display, Apollo 17 lunar sample display? --Doug Coldwell ^talk 11:21, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

No. I can see the problem too. Looking at where the page breaks off, it almost looks as though something in User:Vejvančický's signature is causing a rendering problem. However, that user has been signing other contributions recently without problem and doesn't appear to have altered their signature. I'll keep looking, but you're right; something is borked with that page. - Karenjc 11:49, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

The signature contains a vertical bar. As it says at My preferences, "Also, if you are going to use a displayed pipe ("|") character (i.e. not part of a piped link), please use &#124; for the pipe character; it can otherwise cause templates to fail.". -- John of Reading (talk) 11:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I've left a message at User talk:Vejvančický. All the text on a DYK nomination page is passed as a parameter into the template {{DYKsubpage}}, so a stray vertical bar will cause the text to be truncated. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:59, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Gah! Found it but John had got there first. Still, that's my something new learned for today. Nice catch, John. - Karenjc 12:01, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

NOW I see everything. Problem fixed! Thanks.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 12:15, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Submission

Hi - I recently submitted (I think) a revised edit for an article on Jan Vogler. The first and second submissions were rejected because of lack of supporting reference material. I believe I have now completed everything but I submitted the last edit on October 16 and haven't heard anything yet. Is there a way for me to check to see if the article was submitted and its status in the queue. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoJoC (talk • contribs) 16:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't know the answer to your question. But a sentence like "Jan Vogler’s distinguished career has featured him with renowned conductors ..." reduces its chance of being accepted. If you delete "distinguished" and "renowned", it will look more like an ecyclopedia article, and less like an advertisement. Maproom (talk) 17:56, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I have edited it again - removing adjectives. Hopefully this time it will be accepted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoJoC (talk • contribs) 18:40, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I have submitted the draft for you. You can do so manually by adding {{subst:submit}} to the very top or by following the instructions in the decline message: "If you are ready to resubmit, click here." Huon (talk) 21:00, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Help with box format

Hello,

on my user page, how to reduce the height of the field image? There is a large white space which should be removed. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 16:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Your user page does not use standard formatting. I don't think it is usual to use <div> tags in a Wikipedia page at all. But yours has five <div> tages and nine </div> tags. I, at least, can't figure out how you expect it to work. Maproom (talk) 18:06, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I've made an edit. At least in Firefox, there is no white space now. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Regards.--Tomcat (7) 20:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Martial Artist

dear sir i m a celebrity of my town and famous martial artist how can make a page on your web site ? please reply me on (email address removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chandanbir singh (talk • contribs) 17:26, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

You shouldn't. Please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:COI to understand why you are strongly discouraged from writing about yourself on Wikipedia. If you are truly notable as a martial artist (i.e. if you satisfy the criteria at WP:ATHLETE) then someone will eventually write about you here. Or you could assemble the material for an article, along with the essential reference sources we require, and post it at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. - Karenjc 18:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Notability

I'm wondering where I can discuss with the community whether a person is notable enought to create an article about this person. Could you give me directions? --ViseMoD (talk) 19:33, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

How about your talk page or the talk page of a relevant WikiProject?--ukexpat (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Notability/Noticeboard. Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 19:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Another option is to create a draft article in either a user subpage (User:ViseMoD/Draftarticlehere) or AfC subpage (Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Draftarticlehere), then submit the draft for review via Wikipedia:Articles for creation.--xanchester (t) 20:30, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

And don't forget to check the general notability guideline and the notability criteria for people. Provided you can show uncontroversially that one of these has been met, notability is not debatable. - Karenjc 22:10, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

The Supper Club page

I am trying to insert text but it is matching to a webpage with content we have written — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewingle (talk • contribs) 21:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the help desk. The content has been tagged as a copyright violation. Material that is copied from a source that is not in the public domain violates Wikipedia's copyright policies and guidelines. The article also has notability issues, and has been tagged for speedy deletion. As per our notability guideline, articles on Wikipedia must demonstrate the subject's notability through the use of independent, published secondary sources. My suggestion is to create a draft article via Wikipedia:Articles for creation, correctly cite it, then submit the draft article for review.--xanchester (t) 21:12, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

The content does not need to be in the public domain, but it does need to have a licence that allows for reuse. RudolfRed (talk) 21:19, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's true. The copyright guideline allows for content licensed using CC-BY-SA, and other similarly compatible licenses.--xanchester (t) 21:27, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Suhail Abdul Lateef Galadar

Dear Sir / Madam please accept my highest regards and the compliments at the outset and sumbit that i have created a page and its not even published or in search kindly help me once again thanking you in anticipation .... Regards Suhail Galadari you can find my links in the following search

https://www.google.ae/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&tok=uQrMP1WqCaT4-YBMA6mLsg&cp=9&gs_id=12k&xhr=t&q=suhail+galadari&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=suhail+ga&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=352cd6fe63055745&bpcl=37643589&biw=1280&bih=609 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suhail Abdul Lateef Galadari (talk • contribs) 21:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

At the moment the draft exists in three places: your user page at User:Suhail Abdul Lateef Galadari, your talk page at User talk:Suhail Abdul Lateef Galadari and in a user sandbox at User talk:Suhail Abdul Lateef Galadari/sandbox. At the moment none of the drafts sufficiently demonstrate the notability of the subject per WP:BIO. Also it appears to be a WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, which is not something we encourage.--ukexpat (talk) 21:45, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Please do not write or add to an article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Merging articles

New user and am wondering, how does a suggested merge talk page works? When can I remove the suggestion from the article?

For exmaple: Suggested merge of T.C. Chan Center for Building Simulation and Energy Studies to here Talk:University of Pennsylvania School of Design

There has been no response from this user. Energy22 (talk) 21:58, 7 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Energy22 (talk • contribs) 21:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the Help Desk. Consider listing the proposed merger on Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. Wait a week, and if there are no replies, go ahead and boldly merge it. If there are any objections to the merger, someone will revert it, followed by a discussion on the talk page. This process is known as WP:BRD.--xanchester (t) 23:52, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I actually DO NOT think the page should be merged. Another user added the suggestion in January 2012 and I recently saw the article/suggestion and updated the article with current links and additional information. I wasn't sure if I could delete the merge suggestion that another user posted. The other user has not responded to my talk messages. Just wanted to follow the wikipedia rules! Thanks! Energy22 (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I apologise for the misunderstanding. Reading through Talk:University of Pennsylvania School of Design, the issue that was raised as the rationale for the merger, the lack of independent sources, still applies. My suggestion is to address their concerns by citing the article with reliable, published secondary sources before removing the tag. If another user reverts the removal afterwards, then a new discussion occur on the talk page. Notify me if you have trouble finding sources, I'll be glad to help.--xanchester (t) 16:40, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Use of Article Text

Can I use the text of an article (not the whole thing) in a white paper without giving you credit?

Thanks,

Steve — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.160.51.50 (talk) 23:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

If you want to use Wikipedia's text materials in your own books/articles/web sites or other publications, you can do so, but you must comply with one of the licenses that Wikipedia's text is licensed under. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:41, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

November 8

A question about acceptable citations

Today I came across a woefully inadequate article on Mining on Vancouver Island that I thought I might improve, being a Mining Engineering graduate native to Vancouver Island. Much of what I know about the topic, however, comes from museum exhibits in former mining communities like Cumberland. Is it acceptable to cite museum exhibits or other similar material? It's not formally published in the normal sense of the term, nor is it documented online in any detail, but public museum exhibits are generally considered to be reliable sources of information (that being pretty much their only reason for existing). Rashkavar (talk) 04:06, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I suppose it depends on the nature of the exhibit. You can certainly cite museum catalogues and even a simple publication, like a museum's own flimsy guide leaflet about a particular exhibit, can be cited. You might want to repost your question at Wikipedia:Reliable sources noticeboard, where it should attract the attention of users with more expertise in this area. - Karenjc 10:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Navigation within reference desk archives

I am looking at an archived reference desk page Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Humanities/2012 August 14 and I think (though I'm not certain) that there was talk page discussion about one of the topics (responding to prayer requests) from August 14. Is there a way to get to the archive of the corresponding talk page? Thanks CBHA (talk) 04:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The talk page is here Wikipedia_talk:Reference_desk/Humanities, and there is a link to the archives. It looks like 93 has the date you're interested in. RudolfRed (talk) 04:35, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

How can I edit my Artilce Headline

Hi I am newbie here.. I have written an article about a company but by mistake i have made a wrong name in the title..

How can i change it.. help me... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shivg.officeyes (talk • contribs) 10:11, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Officyes.com (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

For your question, see Help:Moving a page. However, the page you really need is the FAQ page for organisations, since the page has been marked for speedy deletion as advertising. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:17, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome! You might also want to check out Wikipedia:Notability. Articles, for any subject, require independent, published sources to demonstrate the subject's notability.--xanchester (t) 10:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Officyes.com has been speedily deleted as spam and for lacking importance or significance.--ukexpat (talk) 15:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

New article rejected for lack of references

I've had a new article rejected twice for 'lack of references' - I've provided links to two internationally-published books which reference the subject of the article. There's little or no other online references to the subject. The subject shares the same name as another already on Wikipedia, so this is effectively the first reference to this new subject, and I feel the Wiki is required to not only document the subject I'm writing about, but also to differentiate the subject from the one already referenced on Wikipedia.

I can't seem to get the message across to the reviewers that in order to have some online refernces to a subject, someone has to write the first one...... and I feel that I'm writing this first reference.

Comments, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicfan1353 (talk • contribs) 10:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome. Wikipedia's notability guideline requires significant coverage by sources. Two minor mentions in two books by the same author on the same subject is not sufficient.--xanchester (t) 11:02, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The notability guidelines suggest that a national radio broadcast may be sufficiently notable, and the subject fits the bill in that category. As I say, the main motivation is to distinguish the new subject from the existing one, already on Wikipedia, that shares the same name, and to a certain extent, is less notable (IMHO) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicfan1353 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

If there do not already exist multiple references in independent reliable sources, then by definition, the subject is not notable by Wikipedia's standards, and there should not be an article on it. By all means write an article on the subject, but not in Wikipedia. If you can get an article published by a reputable independent publisher, then that subject will be closer to being notable. --ColinFine (talk) 14:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Well, the 'multiple references' for the similarly-named subject already on Wikipedia consist of their own Myspace page, and an online interview, neither of which strike me as being published by a 'reputable independent publisher'..... As I say, all I want to do is add some clarity to two similarly-named subjects, the newer one of which I feel is equally as notable as the one already on Wikipedia...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicfan1353 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

This band existed; the BBC felt them notable enough (being a splinter group from one that was recorded multiple times for the BBC) to commit them to a studio recording broadcast to the whole of the UK, and this is a matter of record in the accepted 'bible' on the topic of BBC Sessions (one of the references in the article) but because no-one took the trouble to document them at the time, we can't document them now on Wikipedia? Even when there's potential for confusion with the other band of the same name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicfan1353 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The notability of other articles does not affect the notability of the article in question. It true that the Hiding Place (band) article lacks sources, and may qualify for Articles for Deletion, but that has no impact on the notability of the similarly named article that you are submitting for creation. Articles on Wikipedia require multiple independent, published sources to establish notability. If the subject is notable, it should not be difficult to find other published sources.--xanchester (t) 18:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I still don't see why we can't generate the first reference to the notability of this band. As I said, they were broadcast to the whole of the UK, the lead singer had recently left a band that had been recorded and broadcast by the BBC on three or more occasions... just because nobody wrote something down about them at the time, does that mean we shouldn't write the first reference to them now? Musicfan1353 (talk) 22:35, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Because that flies the the face of what Wikipedia is about and some of its most basic policies. See the verifiability policy and the original research policy. Wikipedia reports but does not create notable information. Would you expect the Encyclopedia Britannica to create notability about some subject? Just like Britannica, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, nothing more and nothing less, and creating notability is outside its purpose. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:47, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Activating an account over all different projects

Hi, I'm contemplating a WP:CLEANSTART due to continuing on- and off-wiki harassment events. I remember using a tool at some point to get this account activated across all WP projects (about 700) and would like to use this for my new account, too, but for the life of me cannot remember where I found that tool (probably on meta, but where...). Does somebody here know where to find it? Thanks. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 11:28, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean a Unified login? If so, it should be automatic - check your global account status under the My preferences menu.

If you mean something else - sorry, not a clue... Yunshui 雲‍水 11:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

No, that's not it. If under preferences you click "manage your global account", you see the WPs on which your account is active. This account shows 680 project sites. My new account only shows those where I manually logged in. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 11:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm. Have you tried Special:MergeAccount on Meta? Yunshui 雲‍水 11:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I did, that's not it either. If I recall correctly, it was some kind of script that would log an account into every existing wikiproject. Took a few minutes to complete and would list all projects one-by-one. I guess it's not really essential any more, giving the unified login we now have. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 12:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I don't see any need for this. With the right settings, if you are logged in to a unified account at one Wikimedia wiki then your account should automatically be created and logged in if you view any page at another wiki. That happens for me and I like it. It means I can see which wikis I have visited and when I first visited them. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:28, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Please clarify that anagrams are not regarded as original research?

Hi - I've been having a few problems with the pages Aleister Crowley, Aiwass, Thelema & The Book of the Law. The trouble comes from how anagrams within the text of 'The Book of the Law' are viewed by editors and contributors. Crowley comments on an anagram written in verse 1,15. There is also an evident perfect anagram in verse 1,7 - "Aiwass the Minister" = "I sin, I was the Master." I don't think that the presence of an evident anagram constitutes original research, especially when no attempt is being made by myself to interpret the anagram, theorise or speculate about it, but others disagree. Can you clarify whether simply stating the presence of an anagram is original research in your view or not?

Thanks. Dara Allarah (talk) 11:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Unless a reliable source has commented on the anagram, what you're proposing is indeed original research. For instance, the example you offer above can also be rearranged as "Miss a hearse, nitwit". Can you prove that Crowley wasn't referring to the foolishiness of immortality here, instead? Without a published source to that effect, your interpretation is no more valid than mine - hence, we need to verify that the anagram was there intentionally (or at least, that commentators have noted it). Yunshui 雲‍水 11:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I think Yunshui's interpretation is preferable. Maproom (talk) 14:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Your example "Miss a hearse, nitwit" is not an example of what's called a 'cogent anagram', whereas "I sin, I was the Master" is. A cogent anagram is one that is cogent with the original text. In this case the identity of Aiwass the minister is cogent with the statement "I was the Master". Crowley states in his commentary to the Book of the Law that "A "minister" is one who performs a service, in this case evidently that of revealing." The Book of the Law is the only time Aiwass is referred to as a Minister in any of Crowley's work, and it is out of step with the Egyptian pantheon as if anyone qualified as a minister to Horus it would be the God Thoth.

While Crowley does not directly refer to the anagram of 1,7 he comments directly on the anagram in 1, 15 saying ""Prince-priest" is an unusual word, and not in tone with other references to me. I suspect therefore a secret cipher of some sort. For one thing, it is an anagram of PRINCEPS ITER, not bad for Alastor the Wanderer, or PRINCIPS ERIT, he shall be the chief (see verse 23). But such Qabalah is hardly to be considered serious. The recurrence of the letters PRI is however curious and may be significant....etc" Meaning - the anagram itself is not serious, not that Themuru qabalah is not serious. Crowley also provides pictorial proof that he was aware of an anagram in III, 47. 'Then this line' is an anagram of 'the nine hilts'. When we examine the hilts drawn on the 9 of swords in the Thoth deck we find they are identical whereas in the other cards they are dissimilar (sometimes only in tiny ways such as the weave on the hilts).

Briefly - the Book of the Law is filled with anagrams, ciphers and codes, as much as Lewis Carroll's works are. Indeed, Crowley put 'Alice in Wonderland' and 'Through the looking glass' on his recommended reading list for the A.'.A.'. syllabus.

In recent times anagrams have been used and accepted in court as evidence. For instance in the recent court case of Dan Brown Vs. Baigent and Leigh, the Judge accepted that Dan Brown's villain 'Leigh Teabing' is an anagram of Baigent and Leigh and said "I have already observed the anagram in the name Teabing as being another example of how The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail was clearly in the mind of Mr Brown when he finalised his book."

Its unlikely that commentators will mention the anagram in the future as most books on Thelema are written by members of the OTO, and published by OTO members working for specialist occult publishing houses. So although there are a lot of books on Thelema and Magick out there, and they seem to fulfil the criteria of valid third party published works, on closer inspection the field is dominated by fraternal nepotism that furthers the agenda of the OTO. Very little independent critical analysis is available concerning the matter of the dictation of the Book. Dara Allarah (talk) 14:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Your anagrams are original research. One can make all kinds of things out of a phrase like "Aiwass the Minister":

Atheist Swear I'm Sin

Arise Atheism's Twin

Arise Nastiest Whim

It is ridiculous to suggest that any particular phrase has any significance... AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:05, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

These are not cogent or meaningful anagrams, nor evident ones, nor grammatically correct. I don't suggest that 'any particular phrase' has significance. Dara Allarah (talk) 15:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I like "Wise hermit is Satan". That's cogent as well, given the context. Point is, there's nothing published saying that your anagram is the right one - you're assuming it from context, which is, yep - original research. Without sources, it's not useable, sorry. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my edit. That was an error. I'm fairly new to wiki.  :-)

Amusing, but not cogent to Aiwass unless you can show he was a 'wise hermit'. :D However - in mine we already know that Aleister Crowley called himself the 'Master Therion'. Furthermore, its common practise to use the word minister for words containing master in cryptic crossword puzzles. Dara Allarah (talk) 15:22, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Let's be totally clear about this: unless you can find a published reliable source that tells us that "I sin, I was the Master." is an anagram of "Aiwass the Minister", and that this is of significance, including this in an article would constitute original research, and would not be permitted. Articles are based on verifiable material, not on contributors speculation. This is non-negotiable. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:53, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

A quick google check shows many sources, though they are either arcana of dubious reliability or circular references from WP. That said, the assertion "ABC is an anagram of CAB" is intrinsically verifiable, like an arithmetic assertion. The question should really be seen as one of notability, not verifiability. LeadSongDog come howl! 18:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Everyone here seems to be missing the point with the advice being given. Whether or not the anagram is verifiable or not, or whether it needs to be or not, misses the point on why it should not be included: It is a mundanely trivial thing and not relevant to a scholarly understanding of the subject. If I found out that George Washington ate pork chops on a particular Tuesday in November, 1790; even if I had multiple scrupulous sources which were very reliable and positively confirm the fact, it still wouldn't be appropriate information to the article because it adds nothing worthwhile in understanding the historical and scholarly significance of George Washington. Likewise, playing Scrabble with the letters of a famous person's name lends nothing to understanding who they were or why they were important: it may be a fun (and sometimes funny) intellectual exercise, but it is trivial and pointless and doesn't belong in a Wikipedia biography of the person, even if we find a few sources that happen to report the same anagram. --Jayron32 05:53, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I would usually agree with you, however there are mitigating factors with this one that make it an exception to what should be a matter of common sense and a general rule. 1) The Book of the Law is not a straight text and the presence of anagrams, ciphers and riddles in it is attested by its author. This point has notability, and is not a matter of contention. 2) Whether the book was dictated by a supernatural entity called Aiwass or was written by Crowley himself is a subject of scholarly debate, and as such the anagram informs that debate as it is cogent to the issue of the identity of Aiwass by its own anagramic cogency. So - this is a highly non-trivial inclusion that is extremely important to Thelemites of both Religiosity and Skeptical persuasions alike. Its also why I don't feel justified in doing more that presenting the presence of the anagram in the text on WP. No theorising as to what it means, no speculation upon it, (that would be original research) - just 'it's there'.

This is why I'm handing the hot potato to you guys to decide upon. Its intrinsically verifiable and relevant to the topic, which has notability. See Aiwass and Talk:Aiwass Dara Allarah (talk) 08:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Wikipedians! Can you please tell me why my talk page is red? Dol Grenn (talk) 11:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

• Because it didn't exist yet. I have put a welcome template with some (hopefully) helpful links, so it's blue now. Happy editing! --Guillaume2303 (talk) 11:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Fraudulent editors still allowed to post and comment on topics they have been shown to manipulate fraudulently!!!!! Really?? !!! Wikipedia loses credibitity.

Copypasta rant

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Not that you'd ever guess it was a scandal from the accompanying article. It reads more like a damage-limitation press release put out by concerned friends and sympathisers of the lying, cheating, data-rigging scientists Which funnily enough, is pretty much what it is. Even Wikipedia's own moderators acknowledge that the entry has been hijacked, as this commentary by an "uninvolved editor" makes clear. Unfortunately, this naked bias and corruption has infected the supposedly neutral Wikipedia's entire coverage of Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory. And much of this, as Lawrence Solomon reports in the National Post, is the work of one man, a Cambridge-based scientist and Green Party activist named William Connolley. Connolley took control of all things climate in the most used information source the world has ever known – Wikipedia. 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In September 2009, the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee revoked Mr. Connolley’s administrator status after finding that he misused his administrative privileges while involved in a dispute unrelated to climate warming. If this is true, it doesn't seem to have made much difference to his creative input on the Wikipedia's entries. Here he is – unless its just someone with an identical name – busily sticking his oar in to entries on the Medieval Warm Period (again) and the deeply compromised, soon-to-be-leaving (let's hope) IPCC head Dr Rajendra Pachauri. And here he is again just three days ago, removing a mention of Climategate from Michael Mann's entry. And here is an example of one of his Wikipedia chums – name of Stephan Schulz – helping to cover up for him by ensuring that no mention of that embarrassing Lawrence Solomon article appears on Connolley's Wikipedia entry. And here he is deleting criticism of himself. Connolley, it should also be noted, was one of the founder members of Real Climate – the friends-of-Michael-Mann propaganda outfit (aka "The Hockey Team") which, in the guise of disinterested science, pumps out climate-fear-promoting hysteria on AGW and tries to discredit anyone who disagrees with the ManBearPig "consensus". Here he is, for example, being bigged up in a 2006 email from Michael Mann: >> I've attached the piece in word format. Hyperlinks are still there, >> but not clickable in word format. I've already given it a good >> go-over w/ Gavin, Stefan, and William Connelley (our internal "peer >> review" process at RC), so I think its in pretty good shape. Let me >> know if any comments… >> and here are some of his associates: From: Phil Jones To: William M Connolley ,Caspar Ammann Subject: Figure 7.1c from the 1990 IPCC Report Get that? The guy who has been writing Wikipedia's entry on Climategate (plus 5,000 others relating to "Climate Change") is the bosom buddy of the Climategate scientists. Nope, this isn't a problem that is going to go away. Wikipedia may well be beyond redemption – as this useful resource site for Wiki-inaccuracies would seem to suggest. Like so many hippyish notions, Jimmy Wales's idea of a free encyclopedia for everyone was a noble intention which has been cruelly and horribly abused by some very ugly people. Do you want to know just how ugly? I've been saving the worst till last. Here it is: William Connelley's Wikipedia photograph. UPDATE: (thanks, wondrous Thomas 33 for your delving). Et Tu, Jimmy Wales? It seems that the dread Connolley once earned the approbation of the Wiki-King himself, as he boasts here on an old blog: 2005-12-19 Connolley has done such amazing work… Back to wikipedia… Nature has an article on wikipedia vs Britannica. It was an interesting exercise, and as the most notable climatologist on wiki :-) they interviewed me, which lead to the sidebar article "Challenges of being a Wikipedian" (see the Nature article; click on the "challenges" link near the bottom). It contains the rather nice quote from Jimbo Wales "Connolley has done such amazing work and has had to deal with a fair amount of nonsense" (does Lumo still read this?). He can also be found gloating evilly over his powers: 2006-01-16 Wikinews A few snippets from wikipedia… I'm now an admin, and hence have ultimate power to CRUSH ALL MY ENEMIES HA HA HA HA!!! <evil laugh trails off into the distance>. Sadly no: the rules prohibit me from abusing my powers and there are always other people watching anyway. And not that I have too many enemies, Of Course. Some of the comments are interesting though: try the RFA, scroll down for the Opposes. And I've just made my 10,000th edit. That slacker Lubos only has 2.3k, & Charles matthews has a feeble 54k. Tags: Climategate, ManBearPig, Wikipedia, William Connelley — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.119.194 (talk) 11:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

BarrieJones (talk) 11:48, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I like the idea of a "Copypasta rant", but it seems remarkable that a users first, and so far only, edit was inserting this collapse box ?? - Arjayay (talk) 18:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

delete Henley Management College, South Africa

This page - Henley Management College, South Africa - is outdated and wrong. The school has since (in 2008) changed its name (refer to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henley_Business_School) and we are not allowed to trade or carry on business under Henley Management College name due to company law and government academic accreditation requirements. Could you please delete this site. It's a problem as we recently had a journalist using this info in the press about us. Jon Foster-Pedley, dean Henley Business School, South Africa Fosterp (talk) 13:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. If there are any inaccuracies, go ahead, be bold and fix it! You are encouraged to. And remember to cite your sources.--xanchester (t) 13:56, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I have moved the article to Henley Business School, South Africa, and changed the name in a few other places, though there are still plenty of articles that link to the old name, which should be updated - see 'What links here' from the article. However, I have added a tag to the article saying it is unreferenced. Unless some references to independent reliable sources are added, the article is liable to deleted at any time. --ColinFine (talk) 14:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Second help needed: Template:Did you know nominations/Apollo 11 lunar sample display, Apollo 17 lunar sample display

I know there is an entry of Latest revision as of 13:28, 8 November 2012 on this (and previous edit), however I can NOT read it in normal view. Can you fix. It is beyond my technical ability. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:37, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I can see these edits, using Firefox 14. The comment by Victuallers (talk · contribs) is about a third of the way down the page. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, so can I now. Maybe somebody "tweaked" something to clear this up. I use 2 PCs and NOT using Firefox. The problem showed previously on BOTH PCs. BUT, like I say it seems to be working now. Thanks for looking into it.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 16:53, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Assistance with a requested edit

Hello. I have a conflict of interest, so while I have read that one should "be bold," I don't want to edit the Wikipedia article about my employer. I requested some changes (and provided corresponding citations) on the Talk page of this article, but it has been about one week and I haven't heard back. Would someone here be kind enough to consider reviewing/taking action on the changes I requested in this Talk page post: Talk:American_Coalition_for_Clean_Coal_Electricity#Can_changes_be_made_to_Info-box_and_Members_and_history_section.3F Thank you. --BiancaPrade (talk) 16:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Article written about me which is complete nonsense

A few years ago, some 'friends' of mine created an article about me on wikipedia for a joke nd promised they would remove it. I have just realised that the article is still online. User:Sergio-lamela As you can see the article is complete nonsense and doesn't even make sense. I would appreciate it if this article could be removed. Thank you

Sergio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.37.242.12 (talk) 16:28, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

(Wikisyntax fixed) - I have summarily deleted the page (which in Wikipedia's terminology was a "user page", not an article), because it was utterly awful. I deleted the accompanying user talk page for good measure, for the same reasons, and because there was nothing on it worth keeping. Our collective apologies that nobody had spotted this issue (or that those who did spot it did nothing to remove it) between April 2006 and today. With best wishes, Bencherlite^Talk 16:35, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

help in setup wikipedia page for a Recording Artist from the Bahamas

Hello, I need help in setup wikipedia page for a Recording Artist from the Bahamas. What is the procedure and how is it setup? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melanique Babb (talk • contribs) 18:47, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Before you do, take a look at the inclusion criteria set out here to see if they are notable. If they are not, then an article about them is not appropriate and will probably be swiftly deleted. Remember that any evidence that they satisfy those criteria must be substantiated by inline references to reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia. Since your account is new, you cannot create the article yourself, but you can suggest it at articles for creation. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 19:15, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

article

Hello,

i want the article about me, JAnice Murillo, deleted. I did not authorize my personal information to be displayed or public. How can i delete it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janicemurillo (talk • contribs) 19:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Normally, articles cannot be deleted based on the subject's request. See Wikipedia:FAQ#How can I get rid of the article about myself or my company?, which recommends improvement of an article instead of deletion. Wikipedia has a special policy on the biographies of living persons. However, in this case, the page in question is not an actual article (User:Hilda hutton/Janice Murillo ) and qualifies as something that is termed a WP:STALEDRAFT, and can be deleted normally through the Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion process. The page is also lacking in independent sources, which increases the chance of deletion. I hope that helps.--xanchester (t) 19:44, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The draft has now been nominated for deletion. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hilda hutton/Janice Murillo. - Karenjc 00:15, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Problem with chess template

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I was trying to make this chess diagram using the chess diagram template. You can click on "edit" for this section to see how I did it. But somehow, the pieces are all shifted on place to the left of their starting positions. What's wrong? Legolover26 (talk) 20:12, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Looking at the example at Template:Chess diagram small#Standard diagram, you've left out the nearly-blank line after the "tright" line:

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Three knight checkmate example

-- John of Reading (talk) 20:29, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You are missing the <header> parameter at {{Chess diagram small}}. If you don't want a header to be displayed then you can make the parameter empty but you still need a pipe. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I have corrected the diagram at its original page, Checkmate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legolover26 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

easterhouse the band from 1980 onwards.

it is not a problem but the article says easterhouse were called after a area in glasgow. easterhouse estate is in edinbourugh, my pal from school peter vanden was the bass guitar player, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.102.112.105 (talk) 23:35, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I removed the space at the start of your question to make it display properly.

Please see the first line of our article. Easterhouse is a suburb about 6 miles (9.7 km) east of Glasgow city centre, Scotland. Can you provide a reliable source that confirms the band were named after somewhere in Edinburgh? I can't find an Easterhouse in Edinburgh via Google. - Karenjc 23:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

November 9

Adding a new page

Hello,

We are trying to add a page about Alvin Taylor (Drummer). He is spoken of in several different musicians pages as he is a world renounced drummer. These places will need to be hyper linked to go to his new page we are trying to create. How do we get a new page up for him and get it linked to the other paged he is mentioned in?

If you do a search here in Wikipedia, you will see him mentioned many times.

Here are a few pages he is spoken of it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_of_Sammy_Hagar_%281992_album%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%28Sittin%27_On%29_The_Dock_of_the_Bay

Please help!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdoniYah (talk • contribs) 03:28, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

It appears you have been trying to create the article, but it keeps getting deleted for non-notability/lack of reliable sources. Instead of creating the article right away by yourself, I highly recommend you send the article through Articles for Creation to be reviewed.

To create a link to another page on WIkipedia (wikilink), simply put two pairs of brackets around the title of the page. For example, this code: [[Wikipedia]] produces this: Wikipedia.

Hope that helps, and welcome to Wikipedia! Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Vandal on The Sims 3 Page proposal of block

207.233.90.1 has did not cite and did not reference the ninth expansion pack of expansion pack for The Sims 3 and I propose a one to three day block from creating account, editing, and send email (this is optional) and I will like to remind others to cite and reference all forthcoming items, especially the games, television shows, sporting events, and Religious\Political events. This does to count for books, magazines, and periodicals. And don't get me started on music and film.... (hint to the recent US Political ad....) Thanks Sundogs ^{Wikia UserPage} 04:09, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Information on warning users can be found here. The place to request page protection is here. And the place to request an IP be blocked is here. I don't see a question in your paragraph, so I don't really know what you're asking. Maybe someone else will be able to ferret it out. Dismas|^(talk) 04:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Adding a Map to an Infobox

I have been working on adding a location map to a series of Auckland, NZ suburbs (specifically Mount Eden and Kingsland) and I am having trouble getting them to load correctly. (I uploaded the maps myself File:Kingsland-NZ.png and File:NZ-Mt Eden.png.) What typically loads on the page when I exclude the brackets[[]] is 300X instead of the image. When I include the brackets [[]] it uploads the image, as well as, [[File: above the image and 300x below the image. I have successfully uploaded the map into the infobox of Eden Valley's page in the past and I am not sure if it is my error or if there is a bug. Can you give me some insight? Researchassistant101 (talk) 04:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I just added the maps to both of the articles with no issues. Did you possibly forget to exclude both the brackets and the File: prefix (e.g. map = Kingsland-NZ.png)? Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:20, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Benefits of effective management system

I need a brief explanation on the statement: "prioritize events for a decisive intelligent action". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.190.2.99 (talk) 04:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

You should ask this at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous because this page is only for questions about using Wikipedia. Scarce2 (talk) 06:37, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Hindi-language Wikipedia

When I see the language bar of Wikipedia page on any subject, I find that in the list of languages for translations, HINDI largely and mostly spoken in India as India's National language is found missing; although some of the Indian languages like Tamil, Gujarati Sanskrit etc. find their names included. Any reasons or explanations for the omission ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.127.64 (talk) 04:22, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

A link is only there if there exists an article in the Hindi Wikipedia on a topic. As of 2011, that Wikipedia had over 100,000 articles, compared to the over 4 million in this version. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:34, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Note that volunteer editors at each Wikipedia language must write their own articles. You can also become an editor and create and edit articles at the Hindi Wikipedia. There is no system for automatic translation. Articles in different languages are edited independently. Often they are not translations but merely about the same topic. meta:List of Wikipedias shows the number of articles in different languages. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:42, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Printing a page with the sidebar

Hi, I'm writing a paper about Wikipedia and need to be able to include a copy of an article (in this case Heart of Darkness) in my appendix, complete with the left-side sidebar. However, whenever I attempt to 'Print to PDF' the sidebar is hidden. Is there any way I can print it alongside the article, or at least print it on its own?

Any help would be very much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.242.208 (talk) 05:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I am not sure if this can be addressed by browser print settings. But, here is a quicker way: Online url to pdf converters --Anbu121 (talk me) 08:05, 9 November 2012 (UTC)