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February 18

Photographing an object at the British Museum and uploading it

If I take a picture of an object or objects in the British Museum-that are on display for public consumption-can I upload it for use on Wikipedia? I had this lovely piece in mind [1], as the current Treasury of Atreus article makes me very sad in how badly it is lacking. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 18 Adar I 5774 00:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

A picture you take yourself of an item that is out of copyright and release under a free use license is a great contribution! Images of recently created works may have copyright issues, but that looks like it is an ancient carving. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Over 3.000 years. I think even the beautiful site sketches of it are in the public domain if I can find a way to put them up. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 18 Adar I 5774 01:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

To flesh this out a little... First of all, just to clarify, we're talking about American law, which is the operative law for the English Wikipedia. A plain photo of a two-dimensional artwork doesn't create a new copyright so whatever copyright the painting is under (public domain for instance if painted and shown before 1923), use that when you upload the image. A photo of a three-dimensional artwork does create a new copyright for you, so donate the file under CC-BY-SA as "own work" when you upload the image (all this stuff is on the upload form).

One question I don't know the answer to but would like to, is, if the museum doesn't allow photography, that doesn't affect copyright, but... is it the case that we only really care about copyright and if the taking of the photo was not allowed we don't really care? Herostratus (talk) 23:51, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes it is. Any question of violation of regualtions or of a contract embodied in an admission ticket or the like is a matter between the museum and the photographer. Wikipedia will not attempt to enforce such rules. DES ^(talk) 04:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I was wondering about which to use! Thankfully for this specific museum all of those concerns don't apply because the only thing you're not allowed to photograph is the locks. I also have images of the so-called arched room, which is public space, but difficult for the public to visit right now because of the construction going on between the arched room and the west stairs where they are building new exhibition space complete with Viking longship. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 19 Adar I 5774 10:43, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Shirley Temple listed in Recent Deaths on Main Page

Where do I look to find out what days Shirley Temple was listed at Recent Deaths (in the In The News section) on the Main Page? Thanks. --71.178.50.222 (talk) 00:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

It was added on 11 February and removed on 16 February.~HueSatLum 01:17, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

You swapped the diffs. I have fixed your post. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks, HueSatLum (and PrimeHunter). (Template:In the news:View history). --71.178.50.222 (talk) 03:10, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Correction to my biography

Good Evening,

I am General Paul David Manson, the subject of a Wikipedia biography. I have just made a few minor changes to the article, but I was unable to correct an error in the title of the article, which refers to me as "Lieutenant-General Paul David Manson". In fact, my correct rank is General. (I was promoted to that rank in 1986.) Incidentally, the body of the article uses the correct rank designation. Would you kindly make the necessary change in the title section of my bio.

Thanks,

Paul Manson General (Ret'd) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.26.41 (talk) 01:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done Note: the page title is Paul David Manson (no rank in title). I changed rank in lead; there is no [Edit] for that section, but the lead can be edited by using 'Edit' tab (on top). ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 02:03, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, General Manson. Please be aware that Wikipedia strongly discourages people from editing articles about themselves, their families, friends, companies etc: see conflict of interest for the reasons. This is particularly an issue in this case, where the text you added seems to be intended to exonerate you. I am not suggesting at all that this addition is inappropriate, only that you are not an appropriate person to have added it. Assuming that the source corroborates it (which is a problem, because the cited reference seems to have rotted, and I have been unable to find it on the Wayback machine), then the text itself is fine. But if you are tempted to make any other edits to that article, please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY first. --ColinFine (talk) 14:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Article by Dass Sheji

I have created my article and I need to know how to submit the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dass Sheji (talk • contribs) 02:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Articles for creation. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

User:Citation bot broken for several days.

See User talk:Citation bot#Discussion 21. Is anybody working on this?-- Brainy J ~✿~ (talk) 04:22, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

INDIAN ORIENTALIST FROM KOLKATA (INDIA)

please do include the name of late "Mohammad Shabbir Khan" from kolkata, India. He is the one whom no eyes have seen in millennium. He was a student of a famous Orientalist late Dr.Hamilton Gibbs(Oxford). He knew more than 10 different languages which include english, urdu, arabic, persian, german, italian, spanish, bengali, hindi etc. to name a few. he did triple M.A. in Arabic, Persian & Islamic History and did his Ph.D in Islamic studies. he was the founder of Indo-Arabic society in Kolkata(India). his scholarship destroyed his family life as he was unable to balance both. so he choosed his work over his personal desires. At the last stage of his life he gave all his Books costing in lakhs & flats, his cash money to Aliah University (Kolkata), 21, Haji Md.Mohsin Square-Kolkata-700016 (India). For confirmation & more detail please contact his only sign that he has left Md.Khalid Mustafa(B.Sc from St.Xavier),(Redacted). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.139.83 (talk) 06:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a reliably published source that supports the content you wish to have added? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:32, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Quench polish quench

Another (IP) editor and I have been improving the content at this article, I hope for the good. It has a record of the proposed deletion tag on its talk page Talk:Quench polish quench. Is it OK to remove that? I proposed the deletion and I removed the proposal since the new IP editor did not know how to do so—I told him I would do it for him (just being WP:BOLD). We have discussed the article both at his talk page and on the article's talk page so the PROD flag is a bit redundant, but should the record at the talk page stay or go? Si Trew (talk) 11:53, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Nope, Reference desk is not the right place. I know this is kinda internal Wikipedia plumbing, I just don't know what to do with the talk. Of course the PROD has been removed at the article (by me), but I don't know whether I should remove the record at the talk page. Si Trew (talk) 12:04, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

It needs to stay. Once an article has been PRODded - even if the original proposer removes the tag - it can't be proposed for deletion via that process again. The talkpage note serves as a record of the original deletion proposal, and so enables users (and admins who can't be bothered wading through all the diffs) to see at a glance that PROD is no longer an option for the page. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:37, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Delete unreliable sources?

Sometimes I see unreliable sources in articles. Example: Vajrasattva (wiki A, rygpawiki. Do you recommend deleting? JimRenge (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I recommend first starting a discussion on the talk page, asking for input from editors who care, and waiting a sufficient time for a response. --Jayron32 17:21, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

open wikis are not reliable and can be removed see WP:SPS. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:23, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Find out who wrote what in article

In a long article with a lot of history, it can be extremely difficult/impossible to manually find out which particular edit added a certain word/phrase/section. Is there anyway to do this automatically? Thanks, Benboy00 (talk) 17:30, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WikiBlame. --Jayron32 17:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yes, there is a tool called WikiBlame. You can access it on the history page by clicking "Revision history search" near the top. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 17:34, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Merged articles, how does this impact Wikidata

Hello. I merged the articles Land hemisphere and Water hemisphere into Land and water hemispheres. Both these original articles had been integrated into Wikidata. How do I integrate the new article, which presumably covers a topic addressed in two articles on most Wikipedias, with the Wikidata system? --LukeSurl ^{t c} 18:00, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

One of the limitations of the Wikidata system is that it handles only one-to-one mappings. More significantly, I'm worried about how you did the merge. It looks at first glance as if you did a cut-and-paste, which doesn't carry forward the attribution of previous contributions. Did you propose the merger, and did you go through the processes described at Wikipedia:Merging to maintain the attribution? — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Biddulph (talk • contribs) 18:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

This was an attempted bold merger, as I do not see it as controversial and there had been no major editing of either article in the last couple of months. Thank you for your comment, I have now worked through the steps of Wikipedia:Merging#How to merge. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 18:36, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

reference

Hi I was just wandering if anyone can help regarding references. I found an article in wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_of_the_Russian_monarch#cite_note-34) to which I need to obtain a reference, but cannot do so as the source and citation were in my view not clearly written.

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.81.65 (talk) 18:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello. That citation has been done in a way which is not recommended, for exactly this reason: the reference is to "King, pg. 369". However, searching for 'King' on that page, I find that note 23 says "King, Greg The Court of the Last Tsar: Pomp, Power and Pageantry in the reign of Nicholas II (John Wiley & Sons, 2006) pg. 359", which I think answers your question. These should be changed, probably to use a named reference; but I'm not sure how to do different page numbers with those. (Later:) You use the template {{rp}} --ColinFine (talk) 19:24, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

And I have changed it: the references to King all point to the same bibliographic information (and similarly the references to Wooley). --ColinFine (talk) 19:38, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

where could ı change my relıgıon ın ıstanbul

how could ı change my relıgıon ın ıstanbul — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.186.48.94 (talk) 19:18, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- ColinFine (talk) 19:39, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate question removed --ColinFine (talk) 19:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

about references

editors,

There must be so many references available on a particular topic that needs to be edited.These references may present with conflicting views.There are vested interests to project only the best features about a content and leave the darker side for other gullible people to experience it, like foreigners who visit such places.Such references are not easily available,but they may be,in newspapers.Again making reference to a newspaper is difficult and even unacceptable.Usually,as I understand you would accept only references from published authors of repute in public life.Smaller references and personal experiences are ignored.How do I get around it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hatekerala (talk • contribs) 20:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

see WP:UNDUE and Wikipedia:UNDUE#Good_research- we present all major academic views of the subject in proportion that they are held. Admittedly, many of our articles, particularly articles about places, have been edited by people with a bias to promote tourism and need a lot of cleanup. However, in the reality of being an encyclopedia, coverage geared towards tourists (or explicitly geared at "balancing" that by showing tourists the "dark side") is not an appropriate angle or subject for coverage anyways. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:38, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

aaaand Wikipedia is certainly NOT the place for you to pursue your campaign of "Hating Kerala". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Watchlist shows only most recent change to each page

Haven't figured this one out. This is a teaching account, and my main account has never had this issue. It's not the setting that groups watchlist changes together -- that's not checked. JavaScript is enabled, if that matters. I had noticed I wasn't seeing everything on the watchlist a couple days ago, but didn't think much of it at the time. Now it's evident. The two accounts watch some of the same [student] pages, and where a dozen edits to one showed up on the other watchlist, on this one it only shows one -- the most recent. Ideas? --Ryan McGrady (talk) 20:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

The difference is probably "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:50, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Well that's embarrassing. That was it. Thanks :) --Ryan McGrady (talk) 23:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Advantages and disadvantages of transcluding a sound file as "file" or as "media"?

Take for example a sound file such as "Church bells.ogg". If you transclude it into an article you can do it either as "media" (like so: [[Media:Church bells.ogg]]) Ding dong or as "file" (like so: [[File:Church bells.ogg]]).What are the advantages and disadvantages to doing the one or the other? Is there one recommended way? In the case I transclude it as "media" I haven't found a way to allow the reader to display file information. Is there a way to do it? Please ping me (@Basemetal:). Thanks. Contact Basemetal here 20:57, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I would never think to click the first blue link to get a sound. the second method with the media player is certainly more obvious to me. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:36, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

@Basemetal: does Help:Files help explain it?--ukexpat (talk) 21:38, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

@TheRedPenOfDoom: I agree with you and I don't like the black screen. But I have seen people use the first method at times. Why does this method exist in the first place?

@Ukexpat: I don't know. I'll take a look.

Contact Basemetal here 22:09, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

@THeRedPenOfDoom: If you play the file using "media" you can 10:00 seconds into the file stop and bring it back to 00:00 or use the cursor to start playing at whatever point you want. There is no way to do that if you use "file".

@Ukexpat: Help:Files does explain the main difference. But not the small differences which I'm only discovering by trial and error. This is why I wanted to have people's views. Are those small differences documented anywhere?

Contact Basemetal here 22:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Media:Church bells.ogg is not a "transclusion". It is a way to wikilink directly to an uploaded file and not the file page File:Church bells.ogg. It also works for images and other types of files. Compare for example File:Example.jpg and Media:Example.jpg. It should not be used in articles but has other uses in the thousands of wikis using the same MediaWiki software as us. I have occasionally used it in discussions but beware it's disallowed for many files because their license require attribution which is given on the file page. By the way, a black background and whether a sound file starts playing depends on your browser. Media:Church bells.ogg is just a link to a sound file located at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Church_bells.ogg. It is not a web page. No background or instruction to start playing is sent to your browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I'd like this to display exactly the the way it displays at the top of this page which as you can see has more functionalities.

Is there a way to do that? For example by adding a parameter [[File:Church bells.ogg|morefunctionalities=yesplease]] so it displays exactly like that and not like here.

Couldn't find anything at Help:Files. Doesn't even say what the available parameters are. Tried documentation at {{Listen}}. No luck there either. Contact Basemetal here 00:05, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Describe "more functionalities" because I don't see anything like what you're talking about within the part of the file that should display in an article. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Surely you must be able to see at the top of this page (3rd line down from the text which says "From Wikimedia Commons, the free media repository") a player that allows you to play the file but is a different player than this one in that it allows you to do things that you can't do with the one here, namely

1. restart the file from any point (here you have to let it play till the end before you can start it again; for long files that's especially annoying) and
2. play from any point you'd like whereas here you can only start at 00:00.

I'd call that at least more flexibility if not more functionalities. Contact Basemetal here 01:16, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

...I see a big black area that makes me download the file. I have a feeling what one sees may have to do with their prefs and computer, though I do agree that the thing I'm seeing is different than the gray "play bar" I see inline here. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:39, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

There was this, if you find it helpful. It offers the "start from time other than 0" functionality. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Try this File:Church bells.ogg. Don't you see a player at the top of the page which allows you to play the file?

Regarding your second suggestion all I can see is a mention of a start parameter that allows you to play from say start=00:10 seconds, for example starts 10 seconds from the beginning, but that's not what I meant. Here you're stuck with 10 seconds whereas the other player gives you a cursor that lets you set where it plays from as you're playing the file. Contact Basemetal here 02:06, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

That page results in the same player I see on pages like this. (On Commons, it's a black bar with a "play" image inset that prompts me to download it, where it plays in the application I have set to play ogg files.) I can't actually play said files as my Java blocks the player from running, but I see a play button, a moving time marker (which I know was movable by clicking or dragging on the timeline when I could run the application), and a menu button, along with the option for CC (all of which is identical to what I see on the file page). Is that what you see when you place the file on a page? - Purplewowies (talk) 02:16, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

No. When I place the file on a page, like I'm placing the file on this page right here then I don't get what you call the movable time marker (and I called the cursor).

I only get (from left to right): 1. the start/pause button, 2. a time meter (a clock so to speak with digits that change when the file is playing) that shows you where the player is at in the file (but this is not something the user can drag like a cursor), 3. the CC button, 4. an on/off volume button, 5. a button where I can set volume 6. the MENU button.

When I got to File:Church bells.ogg then the player I see at the top of the page is identical except that between the start/pause button and the time meter I get a cursor that allows me by dragging it to have the player move to a particular point in the file.

To sum up when I go to File:Church bells.ogg the player I get is like this (from left to right): 1. start/pause button 2. movable cursor 3. time meter 4. CC button 5. on/off volume button 6. volume control 7. the MENU button. Whew. I hope this is clear. Contact Basemetal here 03:23, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

It depends on browser and settings. In Firefox I see the same as you describe. I don't think there is a way to change it for others by editing the wiki code. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I concur. The version on this page lets me move the cursor where Basemetal says it does not. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I heard from Oliver Stone about Stephen Kinzer need help

I have a question, I was told well not really told directly, but I had sent a message to Oliver Stone. that maybe Stephen Kinzer, could help me My father passed away 4 years ago, at the age of 94. He left 3 diary s, from WWII I know it would make a great book Movie he was one of the Dolittle Radiers, he was involved in the attack of Japan, when the B-25 took off the UsS HGornet, he was a pilot bombdair, he was part of the b-25 grop that flew out of Africa, I have restricted and confidential flights of bombing raids, through Italy, so many cool things and he Flew 51 missions Red tails where there lead plans . I tryed to put it together in a story for my kids but Im lost I think mr Kinzer could really help, Im 70 years old and my dad was a hero, I did know this until his passing. can he help.I also have his training packet. Help me Name: joyce Kilday (Redacted) also on twitter and facebook,Im also a military widow My husband died while on active duty, 30 years ago at the age of 41. I hope someone can help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.140.35.30 (talk) 21:56, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Alhambra High School/Athletics

To whom it may concern: Someone has been deleting all of the factual and verifiable information that we have entered under the heading, "League Championships." I am asking the individual or individuals involved to cease and desist with this cyber-vandalism. Csladiablofromalhambra (talk) 22:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

1) you need to actually verify content by providing citations to reliably published sources.

2) even if you have a reliable source that doesn't mean the content is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:46, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

3) See Revision history for explanations of why your good faith edits were reverted (per WP:SCH/AG and WP:NMMA).  ~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 00:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

And Csladiablofromalhambra, please stop throwing around the word "vandalism". Just because you disagree with an edit does not make it vandalism. --ColinFine (talk) 01:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

February 19

Referencing help

I am stuck at the following message- There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}} template (see the help page).

My story was rejected for a lack of references becasue I did not format them correctly. I have tried multiple times to format it but I am not getting it. Thank you- Hhrfan

Does WP:Referencing for beginners help?--ukexpat (talk) 03:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I think Hhrfan was a little confused by those instructions. I have made an edit to his work-in-progress to show how to do references. Hhrfan, does my edit make it a little clearer? Astronaut (talk) 16:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Please check an external link for me?

In the article for Carrie Stevens it says that she runs a fudge company with her family. There's an external link in the article text. Granted, this could be formatted better. I'm not asking about that. Before I did any formatting or adding the link as a potential reference, I wanted to check the link. That's where I run into problems. I'm at work and my employer's net nanny software won't allow me to visit the link. So, could someone else check it, please? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 04:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Dismas, it redirects to here but looks legit. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:09, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

NeilN, thanks. That site is blocked for me as well. Dismas|^(talk) 04:54, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I am trying to create a Wikipedia topic. It gets disallowed, every time. There isn't anything wrong with it legally, or redundancy wise, or ... So, what is wrong with it?

I want to put together a group of pottery (plates and saucers type of pottery) makers marks. These marks go back as far as 250 years or more, though many are in current use. Perhaps someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong. Do I need a 20 page written article right off the top? It's my understanding (wrong perhaps), that you can start out with a little bit of it, have it critiqued, and work it into a first rate subject.

If it is not legal to take a photo of a makers mark, I'm fairly certain that I can draw one on paper and take a photo of my own drawing, explain it's a drawing of a a So & So trademark, and post the digitized drawing. I don't want to do anything illegal or immoral, and collecting bone china cups and saucers is about as exciting a hobby as watching mud dry and crack to most people. What is wrong?

It would be real easy at this point to say to myself that creation of a Wikipedia article is sufficiently complicated and opaque that it's a waste of time to even attempt to try to learn how. If on a practical basis, new topics aren't allowed, that's ok, but I don't see that spelled out anywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Real Cabdriver (talk • contribs) 04:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Real Cabdriver, you can start out with a little bit, but it won't accepted out of WP:AFC into the main article space if it is too little. There must be at least enough to indicate what the article is about, and enough sources to indicate that the subject is notable. I assume this is about Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Real Cabdriver/sandbox. The decline comment said "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified" and the related comment said "Potentially interesting, but article needs more detail and external sources." You don't need a 20-pafge article, but you do need more than 2-3 sentences for it to be accepted. You also need at least two or three independent reliable sources that discuss the subject in some detail, say at least a paragraph or two each. Note that you can leave it in the draft state while you expand it, and only click "submit" when it is in better shape. see Your first article and referencing for beginners for more detail. Please tell us if these comments are not clear or are not helpful to you. DES ^(talk) 04:27, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, Real Cabdriver, as to legality of images of marks, if the object is older than 1923, and you take the picture, there will be no copyright issue, otherwise, things may get a bit complicated. DES ^(talk) 04:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

The requirements for an encyclopedia article are that the subject has been covered in a non trivial manner by independent third party reliably published sources. Without coverage from those sources, your article will never get off the ground no matter how long it is. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

F*ck on Main page

Just a heads up about the main page article coming up on March 1st... 15.203.169.106 (talk) 07:34, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Could you be a little more specific as to what you are warning us about? From what you have said, I don't know which article on the Main Page you are referring to, how you know what is coming up on March 1 (apart from On this day, I didn't think it was set yet), and I don't know if you are warning us of vandalism, of controversial content (Wikipedia is not censored, but I think the main page usually avoids material which some might find troubling) or of some snafu. Or are you a troll? --ColinFine (talk) 12:29, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Please don't accuse editors of being trolls. See Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 1, 2014. I'm not sure what the point of this IP's post to the helpdesk is for however. Pedro :  Chat  12:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I apologise for the troll remark. But I could not find a way to discover what on earth the OP was talking about (they had not even indicated what part of the main page it related to) or what they were saying about it. --ColinFine (talk) 13:28, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

See long discussions in the nomination. April 1st is a day for making jokes. The front page features articles about topics that sound made-up or weird. --Enric Naval (talk) 13:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

@Enric Naval: are you confusing March 1st and April 1st? @ColinFine: I think you'll find that components of the main page are generally scheduled further in advance that you might think - see User:Bencherlite/Future TFAs, TFLs and POTDs which shows that TFAs and POTDs are scheduled for more than a fortnight, TFLs for a month. Bencherlite^Talk 14:03, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I think the IP here is just shooting out a message to any helpdesk people who might not realize that we may get an uptick in page complaints while that article is featured on the Main Page. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

• I concur with the assessment of wowies. It's a warning that when F*CK is featured on the Main page per the consensus achieved that there will likely be more requests for and complaints because Wikipedia is NOTCENSORED. Perhaps the TFA people could include a <small>Disclaimer: Before complaining about this, remember that Wikipedia is NOTCENSORED and there was an opportunity that too many people didn't take to keep this off the main page. You only have yourself to blame!</small> (okay, it probably shouldn't use that exact wording, but you get my point. :p) — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 00:19, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Question

How do I create an a biographical article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Streetfacts2014 (talk • contribs) 07:44, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Advice at WP:Your first article and WP:Biography. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:26, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

File:Four white goose.JPG

File:Four white goose.JPG

PLURAL OF GOOSE IS GEESE !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.255.207.151 (talk) 08:13, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

It's a filename, so any string of characters would do. It is however recommended that a filename gives some indication of what the file shows – which this one does. Maproom (talk) 08:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

And anyway, commons:File:Four white goose.JPG is at Wikimedia Commons and not used here at the English Wikipedia. English Wikipedia editors cannot rename files at Commons but see commons:Commons:File renaming if you want to request a renaming. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:54, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

# Signatures petition

We are not allowed to refer to petitioning sites. Media only refers to them shortly. In this case a reputable article says the petition has 98,000 signatures. But by now it has grown to 135,000+. Is it really impossible to state "over 135,000" when no reputable media is reporting on it anymore? I understand that petitioning sites are no good primary sources, but I don not think it this increases the quality of Wikipedia when it comes to the amount of signatures. Any ideas? Timelezz (talk) 10:44, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Two answers occur to me. First, it is in the interest of any petition to inflate the number of signatures it has, so prima facie I would not regard a petition site as reliable for that particular information. Secondly, the quality of Wikipedia is determined by the accuracy and reliability of its sources and its representing the information on these sources, not by the value somebody may put on the subject reported. If the "98,000" is reported in a reliable source and the "over 135,000" is not, then replacing "98,000" by "over 135,000" would lower the quality of Wikipedia. The worthiness of the cause doesn't enter into it. --ColinFine (talk) 12:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't see how that is a valid argument, as the 'reliable' source also just used the petition as its primary source and is also subject to the same risk of inflation. Also, the fear for 'inflation' can easily be circumvented by appropriate wording. Timelezz (talk) 14:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

"as of DATE it had X signatures (third party source)"

if no third parties deem future additional signatures relevant to the subject why would we?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:43, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Because an encyclopedia should not be limited to the short span of attention of the media Timelezz (talk) 14:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Clearly not our job to "follow through" where neither media nor academia do not see worthwhile pursuit. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:11, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Timelezz, Wikipedia is driven by information obtained from Reliable sources, as per the verifibility policy. We do not go beyond what sources say. It is true that the media source may have obtained the count directly from the petition site, but they will at least have done a "gut-check" and considerd the newsworthyness of the figure, and may have done some cross-checking. If a particular petition site has a reputation for reporting its signature counts accurately and not inflating them, and the reliable source notice board confirms this, it might be possible to say "according to Petition site X, the petition had nnnn signatures as of (Date)" but I would want a clear consensus for any particualr siute that this was acceptable. In any case, unless the petition has itself drawn 3rd-party (which mostly means medai) attention, it is not highly significant, and continually updating the sig count lends it undue weight and violates WP:NOTNEWS. DES ^(talk) 15:21, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! That is spot on, and exactly what I'm hitting at. For sure we should not allow any petitioning sites, and for sure be careful with the wording. Though accuracy is also good virtue to pursue. I'll try to gather some support for the idea to allow individual petitioning sites that are deemed reliable (since reliable media quotes them or due to their strict regulations). Timelezz (talk) 16:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

my site Jim McArthur footballer Hibernian

Jim McArthur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

My site is being vandalised can it be protected

jim mcarthur — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.0.184 (talk) 10:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

See WP:Vandalism. I'm worried about you saying "My site". Wikipedia is a collective process, the article is not yours. Timelezz (talk) 11:06, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Timelezz, though Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines discourage editing of Wikipedia articles by the article subject, there are obvious exceptions for vandalism - and it isn't reasonable to expect every article subject to be familiar with Wikipedia policy. The important issue here is that some clearly offensive vandalism has occurred. I think that the best solution here is to request pending changes protection. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:22, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Callanecc has locked it down for a week, which should solve the problem. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Copy and pasting into Wikipedia

Copy and pasting into Wikipedia

My late father left an extensive bibliography of his work. He was a research scientist for the government and has over 200 published papers and chapters in seven books. I want to create a page for him but there is no way that I can type in all of this information. He passed away several years ago and I have dyslexia real bad. This bibliography is written in his own hand and I consider myself to be the owner of it. It consists of a partial list of approximately 60 papers, his education and work background. Is there anyway that I can cut and paste this on his page?

Thank you

February .19 2014 Greenho (talk) 15:53, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

You have already asked this question, and had it answered. [2] Please do not ask the same question in multiple places. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Strictly speaking, Greenho, a mere list of facts such a bibliography, in a natural order such as alphabetical or chronological, is not protected by copyright, so the most usual concerns over cut & paste do not apply. However, a comprehensive bibliography is not usually appropriate as part of a Wikipedia biography article. In this case a listing of his 3-5 most important papers, and any actual books he published, would probably do. Is this about Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Roy B Mefferd Jr? Do not forget that published independent (3rd-party) reliable sources that establish notability are needed, and his own publications will not contribute to that at all, only publications by others that discuss him or his work in some detail. These are not yet in the draft. DES ^(talk) 16:06, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Napoleon Bonaparte

File:Napoleon table on Mount Gradowa (Gdańsk-Poland).jpg

Napoleon Memorial - Wo ist es? Where is it?

Bitte um Hilfe - wo befindet sich dieses gelungene Napoleondenkmal? Wer hat es geschaffen? Danke.

Please help - where is this successful Napoleon monument? Who created it? Thank you.

--Frze ^{> talk} 17:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Maybe the folks at the WP:Reference desk can help?--ukexpat (talk) 18:02, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

See here Gdansk from de.wk de:Wikipedia:Auskunft#Napoleon Bonaparte.--Doalex (talk) 18:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Editing If you need help editing, you can use the Sandbox topic that everyone uses to help you practice on editing a page. If your loged in, then you can also do it personaly by yourself.

Making your own Wiki story You can make your own Story on Wikipedia by login in or if you dont have a account, you can register. Be bold as you can to create a interesting story for other people to read!

Registering If you dont have a(n) account,you can register. In the right hand side, you will see create account,then click on it. Type in your username, password, and email to create an account. Also, at the buttom, you will see a word that will be blurry. Type in what you think it says, and then hit create an account. And there, you have your account! NOTE: The email is optional, so no email needed.

Thank you for reading this. hoped it help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twilight2468 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Well intentioned, but Wikipedia does not have "stories", we have articles. I have left a welcome message on your user page.--ukexpat (talk) 18:54, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Table formatting help

HMS Ulster (R83) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Folks, would someone please take a look at the table formatting in the commanding officer section? A new editor has added the information but the table formatting has defeated him, and me. Thanks in advance.--ukexpat (talk) 18:51, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

There should be line separators: {{|-}} Ruslik_Zero 19:04, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done See this edit]. Ruslik is correct that line separators were needed, but the previous editor also put three pipes (|||) instead of two before data for column three, and did not put in column separator pipes when a cell in column two was blank. DES ^(talk) 19:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

i dont understand the addiction / fetish for placing everything in tables. the best solution to bad table formatting is generally to follow the manual of style WP:MOSTABLE and nuke the table for a clean and easy to edit bulleted list format-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:28, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

User email update

Can any one please let me know how I can update my email address

Thank you for your help

Moataz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwarshanna (talk • contribs) 19:26, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

@Mwarshanna: You can change your Email addresson the Special:Preferences page. Just scroll down a little bit to the "Email options". This should allow you to change or set your email address. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 19:28, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

phone

what kind of phone can I buy that I don't have to go under contract so I can use your square product Helen Hedmond — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.41.223 (talk) 21:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. DES ^(talk) 21:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Username change?

I have just created my account but my username is not spelt as it was intended to. I want to change it but don't know how to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zalatya Zorka (talk • contribs) 21:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

if you just created an account, Zalatya Zorka, or have no or few edits (and currently you have only 2) the easiest and simplest thing is to jsut abandon this account and start over with a new account that can be spelled however you wish (within the normal restrictions and subject to any existing accounts). That will be easy adn should require no further help. DES ^(talk) 21:44, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Preferences among choices for referencing

Wikisource contains the full standard reference work "The Catholic Encyclopedia" (of 1913) - since it is in the public domain. But the same work can be found online through the very stable Catholic website NewAdvent. In creating or updating article references, is there any preference on WP between using one or the other of these as the target of the reference? In particular, is there any trend away from an older way of doing things? Thanks. Evensteven (talk) 22:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I change the graphics/pictures on our site?

How does one remove graphics that are no longer part of the branding from one's page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buddyrice (talk • contribs) 22:43, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

since it appears that you have a connection to the subject you should go to the article's talk page and post a message there for someone else to act on. If you wish to donate your logo by releasing it under a free use license or if it is a simply geometric and text that is not covered by copyright, you can upload it at the Wikimedia commons [[3]].

If you wish to retain the copyright, you will need to make sure to follow the WP:FAIRuse policies. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:13, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Buddyrice. Are you talking about a Wikipedia article about you(r company, organisation, club ...)? If so, the logo will probably be in an infobox at the start of the article, so you need to edit the whole article (using the Edit tab at the top of the page), and inside an 'infobox' template you will find a line something like

logo = X company logo.jpg

(I can't tell exactly how it will be, because you haven't told us which article, so I don't know which infobox it uses).

If you simply remove the filename

logo =

and save your work, then the logo will disappear from the page. Please make sure you give a meaningful edit summary, so anybody watching will know why you have done this.

When you say "one's page", that sounds as if you might be associated with the subject of the article: if so, please read conflict of interest before you edit the article.

If by "our site" you didn't mean a Wikipedia article, then this is not the right place to ask. You might get some help at the reference desk, but you will need to give a lot more information, specifically what system or technology your site uses. --ColinFine (talk) 00:11, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

DeLand, Florida

Children's House Montessori School should be listed under the headings preschool, elementary and middle school. It is a private school in existence for 45 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.89.0.152 (talk) 22:46, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Anyone can edit Wikipedia. You can add it yourself. --Thnidu (talk) 10:01, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Farmville

@Farmville hola soy un jugador de farmville,he tenido un problema con farmer's square, me ha desaparecido el (ingredient storage)y no puedo recuperarlo,ni siquiera esta para comparlo,a la espera de una solucion ,atentamente gracias — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.153.167.122 (talk) 23:07, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Bienvenido/a a Wikipedia, la enciclopedia que todos pueden editar. No es afiliado con Farmville. Está en el proyecto de idioma inglés. Wikipedia tiene un proyecto de idioma español, y usted puede buscar ayuda en su página de consultos. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 23:21, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

February 20

I'm having a problem with my Wikipedia password

My previoususername is Venustar but I lost my password. Could someone please help me? KristineAllison84 (talk) 00:49, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Try Help:Reset password CTF83! 00:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Is there a function that will show a list of what other articles an article links TO?

Is there a function that will show a list of what other articles an article links TO? - basically the opposite of the 'What links here' tool? If there is not, presumably it is because the information is already present on the page (in the form of the article), and the reason the 'What links here' tool exists is because that information is not present on the page, unless there is some other reason. However, consider the potential usefulness of such a tool, as follows.

1. It would provide an organized view of (and a preview of) such information, and could save the time it would take to go through the entire article for it, at times when that is not necessary.
2. It would be useful for quickly assessing such information, and (2a) getting a sense of what connections are present (or lacking), and (2b) other topics the topic involves or is associated with.
3. It would be a good compliment and alternative to the "See also" list at the end of articles.
4. It would help people find information they might have missed, (4a) in reading long articles, and (4b) in finding links when they are revisiting an article, as browsers by default tend to display previously-visited links in a color that can be very difficult to notice.

If there is not such a function or tool, would you please consider adding it? Maybe it could be filterable by relevant settings. Thanks, J.

I agree it would be useful. mw:API:Properties#links / pl shows a way to do it with the API, but that is more suited for programs than humans. Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=links&pllimit=500&titles=Main+Page. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

New page entirely in Arabic

أحمد صبور is a new page on the English wikipedia entirely in Arabic. Seems like it qualifies for a speedy delete or migration to the arabic wiki, but it doesn't seem to neatly fit into any category at WP:CSD. To me it looks like gibberish, but Google translate works on it. It's not clear whether it exists on another wikimedia project already, so that's out. Just go with WP:PROD? 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 03:23, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English. Basically, you apply a tag and if it doens't get translated in short order it will be deleted and/or moved to ar.wiki. Calliopejen1 (talk) 03:25, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It looks like it might have been at ar:أحمد_صبور but was deleted, or at least Google is finding that now deleted article with a few snippets of the text in quotes (not that that would meet A2 however). Anyway, this reads like a resume to me using Google translate – enough so that I would not hesitate to tag it under G11.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I suspected it was something like spam, but couldn't really tell. I'll tag with G-11. Thanks to both of you for the information! 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 07:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I need help coding my user page

At this moment, my user page's information is confined to the left of the screen. I'd like to have it extend the full width like any other page would. Reece Leonard (talk) 06:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

By default, tables are formatted just large enough to fit around their contents. I've added "width:100%" to override this. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:34, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Reece Leonard (talk) 15:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Non-free image question

I have a question about a non-free image I found. This new user uploaded his company's logo under the fair use rationale that he "owns the logo", but he is not releasing it on a free license. Aside from the WP:COI issues and potential notability problems (there's a gamespot article about the company, so I just tagged with COI rather than PROD for now), should I tag with {{puf}}? The logo he uploaded is quite high resolution, so I think that it needs to be taken down to thumbnail size to even qualify for fair use. Is there a special dispensation I'm not aware of for copyright holders to release their content on a non-free license for purposes like this? I can't imagine there is... 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 07:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

We have no way to know' that this user is in fact the Managing Director of the company, so treat it as if any random user had uploaded. It is a valid fair use logo (as long as we have an article about the company) so we can just download, scale down, and re-upload, no need to actually delete. I will do that tonight if no one has before that. DES ^(talk) 13:51, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

could someone please fix me an article?

[[4]] thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.236.108.232 (talk) 08:15, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

List of Netflix compatible devices (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have undone the most recent set of edits, as they had broken the formatting so badly. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:28, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

quoting paraphrased quotes

BBC said that someone said x. Is there another way to put it than a 'he said she said'? Or how can you quote a paraphrased quote? Timelezz (talk) 10:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

If it's part of their reporting, then just put it in as a regular source. Otherwise WP:PSTS might be of help. CTF83! 10:41, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Numbering diagrams

Fig. 1: blahblah

Is it ok to number the diagrams in an article? E.g.

Blah blah blah (See Fig. 1).

Thanks, Lesion (talk) 14:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me. I'd say be bold and go ahead. If someone reverts you then discuss it on the article's talk page. RJFJR (talk) 14:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

conflict resolution

Hi, what are the next possible step for conflict resolution, after an attempted DRN failed due to lack of participation. It is important me that any such step would include un-involved users, due to the unfortunate circumstance that this article is part of an arbitration case and many editors seem to be editing with their conflict goggles on. Thanks. --PLNR (talk) 14:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

WP:AE? WP:RFCU? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

WP:TO? DES ^(talk) 17:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Are you suggesting that PLNR move to Canada? Maybe not. :P 0x0077BE [^talk/_contrib] 23:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

how to edit an edit summary

In article Sator Square I have written an edit summary containing typos/errors that likely will make it non-understandable. How can I ask an administrator to make changes to that edit summary? --Signo (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit summaries can't be edited - you could make a dummy edit though, to explain what you meant. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

linking pages about same subject in hebrew and English versions of Wikipedia

I am having difficulty linking the Hebrew page on "Jacqueline Kahanoff" / ז'קלין כהנוב [5] to the English page on the same subject [6]. The English page is (or should be) linked to the Hebrew page. Please advise. Thank you, Deborah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debastarr (talk • contribs) 15:12, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

In general, links between articles in different languages are done with Interlanguage links (which show up on the left hand side) They shouldn't got in the article. See David Ben Gurion as an example of how to show the name in Hebrew as part of the opening information in a similar circumstance. The Interlanguage links entry in Wikidata about the articles for her is at (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3944327#sitelinks-wikipedia) and includes English, Arabic and Hebrew Naraht (talk) 17:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Deleted page

hi, my page was deleted and i need help. regardsKatelyn100 (talk) 15:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Katelyn100. The question above appears to be the only contribution you have ever made to English Wikipedia, so it is hard for us to guess what "deleted page" you mean, or what you want help with. Maproom (talk) 16:02, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It was deleted for not indicating why the subject is important or significant, see the message on your talk page. To fix that it will need to be rewritten from a neutral point of view omitting all the marketing-speak, and citing reliable sources to demonstrate notability.--ukexpat (talk) 17:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

help me

This is Prashant k.t. an indian Singer and voice over,dubbing artist with arrund 10 years experience. How can i ad my name in voice over and dubbing artists list.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prashantktvo (talk • contribs) 15:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

You should not because you have a conflict of interest.

Wikipedia is not a directory where people get listed because they want to, nor an advertising platform to promote your work.

Content in articles is determined by what reliably published sources have said about the subject and we present it in an appropriate manner.

The suggested method would be to go to the article talk page and provide WP:CITEs that show you meed the criteria. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:17, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Move image to commons

Can someone move https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Class_wort.jpg to wikimedia commons? I tried but I failedLbertolotti (talk) 17:05, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Help?Lbertolotti (talk) 18:16, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

You gave people an hour. Not all requests can be answered in less than that. Especially when many people might feel uncomfortable moving something from a non-English WP since they don't read the language. Dismas|^(talk) 20:29, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It's been moved. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Image weirdness: please tell me my phone isn't haunted!

When I view this image either embedded on a page, or on the image page, or by clicking on the thumbnail in the timeline, I get a grainy black and white portrait photo of someone staring at the camera. In the thumbnail in the timeline, I see a 17th century etching of an execution, as the description says. The timeline doesn't seem to suggest any changes to the image.

Please confirm that
a) this happens for you too
b) we can do something about this

because it's too spooky for me! 86.128.227.246 (talk) 17:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly why, but I suspect you're seeing [[File:Rizana Nafeek (1988-2013).jpg]] instead of that image. Samwalton9 (talk) 17:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that shows the same image! Do you see it too? How did you know it was that one? Should I bring this up somewhere else: I'm not sure where is appropriate. 86.128.227.246 (talk) 18:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Samwalton9 You think this could be the kind of thing that can happen from template vandalism or maybe something inherent to the mobile version of Wikipedia? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I see it as the proper image both here and on mobile. Not a clue what could be causing this personally. Samwalton9 (talk) 20:01, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I admit, I can't replicate it. I'm looking at the mobile version on my pc and my phone and clicking around at the various articles that use that image. Anyhow, I think the phone is haunted. Sorry, IP! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:04, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It's fixed now! I don't know what changed, but it works normally now. 86.128.227.246 (talk) 21:37, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I cannot reproduce it but both images are displayed on Capital punishment. If you have viewed that article then maybe your phone's browser cache got the images mixed up. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

reference error

To the administrators every time I enter a reference on an article an try to post it the bellow line keeps poping up There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}} template (see the help page). How can I fix this problem.

[Modified for readability]

There needs to be a 'References' section which includes  {{reflist}}  where the references will automagically appear. Click on the 'help page' link above for details; see also: Help: Referencing for beginners.  71.20.250.51 (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

The <ref>...</ref> tags only create the little numbers that look like this:^[1] A {{reflist}} tag is needed to generate the list of references at the bottom. Below is a quick guide to how this fits together.

Formatting references using inline citations

Inline citation code; what you type in 'edit mode'	What it produces when you save
Two separate citations.<ref>Citation text.</ref><ref>Citation text2.</ref> Multiple<ref name="multiple">Citation text3.</ref> citation<ref name="multiple" /> use.<ref name="multiple" /> References {{reflist}}	Two separate citations. Multiple citation use. References
Templates that can be used between <ref>...</ref> tags to format your references {{Citation}} {{Cite web}} {{Cite book}} {{Cite news}} {{Cite journal}} Others Examples

Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

• Note: OP = 72.252.251.94 (talk)‎ — RE: Dr. Eric Deans (~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 22:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC))

Y Done. I've added the reflist. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:54, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Images in search

Why does the mobile version of the site have images next to search results but the desktop version doesn't? A mobile version should be a cut down or simplified version, it shouldn't have functionality that is missing from the desktop version. --Jameboy (talk) 23:09, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't have a mobile device but I don't see the difference you describe when I make the same searches at the mobile or desktop version. Neither has images at Wikipedia with default search parameters, but the desktop search page has a "Multimedia" link I can click to search images and see them. Both versions search and display images by default at Commons. Which search are you making at which url? Are you logged in to the same account in both cases? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I think Jameboy is referring to the fact that when one uses the search bar at the top of the mobile site, each suggested result has a small image to its left (presumably the first image from the suggested page). So for example when I type in "c" I see Canada, China and California listed with their flags next to them, and Countries of the world with a placeholder, presumably because that page is a redirect and contains no images. I don't know why that is, though, and would agree that it seems odd. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 07:43, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Oh, you mean images in a list of prefix matches when you type before starting the actual search. That looks fancy, but the page names are shown much faster at the desktop version. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

February 21

Miracle on Ice-1980 Lake Placid

Question: You list the Soviet Union as winning the silver medal in the olympics in 1980. The United States beat Finland to win the Gold Medal, so it follows that Finland won the silver medal and not the Soviet Union does it not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.196.139.146 (talk) 00:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Apparently Finland finished fourth. See Ice_hockey_at_the_1980_Winter_Olympics. RudolfRed (talk) 00:24, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

It looks like they used a different system to determine the medal winners in 1980, then they do today, see Ice hockey at the 1980 Winter Olympics. GB fan 00:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

There was no final. See Miracle on Ice#Gold medal or Ice hockey at the 1980 Winter Olympics#Final round. It was a four-team round-robin. USA defeated the Soviet Union in the second-last round and went one point ahead of them. When USA defeated Finland in the last round they were certain of gold. The Soviet Union defeated Sweden later in the day but it was only enough for silver. The end position meant you could say afterwards that the US victory over the Soviet Union had been the deciding game. It was the only game where either team would eventually have ended up with the gold if they had won (assuming no changes in other games). If USA had lost to Finland then the Soviet Union would have the gold. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Photograph of Taiichi Ohno

Can someone help me find a photograph of this man for his article? The problem is being able to find something that is under public license or similar.Lbertolotti (talk) 00:26, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

The best option I could come across was here -- it's currently semi-freely licensed though not with a license acceptable to wikipedia. I'd contact them (it appears to be an official Toyota account on Flickr) and ask if they could change the licensing to CC-BY or CC-BY-SA (the no derivatives and non-commercial options don't work). There is a sample request message here. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:49, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, if you go that route it would probably be best to confirm that Toyota owns the copyright and that they have the authority to license it. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:51, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

If this is the article Taiichi Ohno and he is actually dead, and you have looked and cannot find a free image- the image doesnt need to be free, WP:FAIR covers it.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

search error

The search features above give errors when I use them - i.e.

• Search Frequently Asked Questions
• Search the help desk archives

--Chriswaterguy talk 02:40, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

It works for me. Do you still get errors? Which search do you make and what specifically happens? PrimeHunter (talk) 07:29, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Citation templates for web news

Re the {{cite news}} & templates:

• Location = location for whom - the publication, the journalist, or...? E.g. in an article on www.theguardian.com (UK publication) by a "Guardian Australia political editor" is it UK or Australia?
• For articles from a news site that has no print publication, e.g. the Australian Broadcasting Corporation website, do I use the {{cite web}} or the cite news template? (I assume cite news, but there appears to be some inconsistency in how these two are used.)
• Similarly for online articles on a newspaper's website, where I don't know if they appeared in print - I assume the cite news template, but it's not quite clear.

Thanks --Chriswaterguy talk 02:46, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

If you look at the template documentation, you will find 'place' / 'location' listed in the Publisher section. And the lead notes "for news articles in print, video, audio or web." --  Gadget850 ^talk 02:56, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

BLPVIO edit summary

What is the correct procedure to get rid of a slanderous edit summary in a BLP article history? I have reverted the edit itself and warned the vandal but the problematic edit summary remains in the history. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:52, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:31, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

LISTING

DEAR SIR, WE ARE A ESTABLISHED CUSTOM TAILORING COMPANY IN BANGKOK,THAILAND AND WOULD LIKE TO BE LISTED UNDER "COMPANIES IN BANGKOK" CATEGORY.KINDLY ADVISE.OUR WEBSITE IS http://www.nibh.com THANK YOU AMON — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.8.53.65 (talk) 08:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

You've come to the wrong place. Wikipedia is not a listing service. --Thnidu (talk) 10:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

See WP:NOTDIRECTORY. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Emaren19 and iOS 7

Good morning I am user As11ley

I have recently been involved in an edit war on article iOS 7 on where I feel that user Emaren19 has been making continuous disruptive edits. I have tried talking to the user and politely asked him to dispute anything on the articles talk page, however I have started receiving abusing and harassing comments from him on my talk page. I believe all edits I have done on iOS 7 have been completely accurate and user Emaren19 has been wrongly editing the page, along with harassing me on my talk page. For evidence please see my talk page. (talk)

Thanks for your time and I hope to get things sorted out shortly

As11ley (talk) 08:50, 21 February 2014 (GMT)

Looking at the recent edits to the iOS 7 article, I see differences of opinion among editors. I also see that you have accused another editor of "vandalism", when his edit was clearly not vandalism. Maproom (talk) 14:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

How to Add a Biography

Dear Wiki, I must have to add a biography of my grand father who was a great writer of Islamic books and Mufti as well. Please let me know how can I add biography.

Thanks, Mohd Arif — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arif,siddqui (talk • contribs) 09:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

First read the following policy and guideline pages - WP:Biography, WP:PEOPLE, WP:PSCOI and then the WP:My first article guide. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:42, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Watchlist paramters

Is there any way I can increase the amount of changes shown in my Watchlist? (like the recent changes show 500 changes option) Because I like to read/follow current events, but those tend to have hundreds of changes per day, monopolizing my watch list, forcing me to logIn dally to keep up, which is sometimes hard todo with my work load. --PLNR (talk) 09:20, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I tried to use the "&limit=xxx" the recent changes parameter in url, no go. Any ideas? --PLNR (talk) 10:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

On the "Watchlist" tab at Special:Preferences there is a "Maximum number of changes to show in expanded watchlist". If you have less than 1000 configured there, you could try increasing it. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Deletions

I have a simple question. I'm running for US Senate in Ga. All but one of my opponents have a Wiki page. Each time one is created for me, it is deleted. Why?

Page Title: Derrick E Grayson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.249.88.33 (talk) 09:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

The discussion that resulted in the deletion is here - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derrick E Grayson. Basically, at the time it was deleted there wasn't sufficient in-depth independent press coverage about you. BTW as far as I can see, that article has been created and deleted only once. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Basically the policy is that running for a political office isn't necessarily enough to show notability. In fact, in some cases the candidate who won the primary for a major party for Senate/Governor isn't necessarily notable if they are beaten handily in the general election. (For example Guy Davis, the 1986 Republican Nominee for Georgia Governor). As for your opponents, Broun(R), Gingrey(R), and Kingston(R) are members of the house, Handel(R) has been elected to statewide office and Steen Miles has been a state senator. Eugene Yu(R) and Branko Radulovacki (D) are more or less in the same situation that you are, so I wouldn't find it all that strange if the wikipedia pages about them were proposed for deletion). Michelle Nunn has not held elected office, but has received *considerably* more coverage that most candidates other than Broun, Gingrey and Kingston.Naraht (talk) 10:42, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

There were two more recent deletions at the correct title with a period after the initial here. Dru of Id (talk) 15:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding archive info for suspended link gets error, but help link doesn't help

One of the external links for Odic force is dead, or at least comatose: The Odic Energy Research Institute's site says "This Account Has Been Suspended". There are copies on the Wayback Machine, the latest dated Dec. 30, 2013 (so the link may go live again, but who knows?). But when I try to update the link with the archive info, I get an error message. (I've formatted the wikitext in typewriter font because the pipe and small ell look about identical in sans-serif fonts.)

After writing up this help request, I realized I didn't need to use {{cite web}} at all, and appended the information to the External link in prose, but the problem remains; see ¶ after error message.

Wikitext:

{{cite web|url=http://odicenergy.com/|work=The Odic Energy Research Institute|publisher=The Odic Energy Research Institute|accessdate=21 February 2014|archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20131230041333/http://odicenergy.com/|archivedate=2013-12-30}}

Parsed wikitext:

The Odic Energy Research Institute. The Odic Energy Research Institute http://web.archive.org/web/20131230041333/http://odicenergy.com/ |archiveurl= missing title (help). Archived from the original on 2013-12-30. Retrieved 21 February 2014.

The word "help" in red parentheses is wikilinked to Help:CS1 errors#bare url missing title. That section of the help page lists the appropriate fixes for

• chapterurl
• conferenceurl
• contributionurl
• transcripturl

that have no corresponding title parameter, but it says nothing about what to do for an archiveurl. In fact, the only mentions of archiveurl on that page are in two adjacent sections,

• |archiveurl= requires |archivedate=
• |archiveurl= requires |url=

… and, as you can see, I've supplied both of those.

The help page needs to be edited to cover this situation.

So I don't have to watch this page, please {{ping}} me if you want my further involvement. Thank you. --Thnidu (talk) 10:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

@Thnidu: I've updated the help page. The {{cite web}} example, above, is lacking a |title= parameter. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

@John of Reading: Thanks, John. BTW, is that /ˈrɛdɪŋ/ as in England, /ˈriːdɪŋ/ as in what you're doing with this message right now, or a pun on both? There's a good YA fantasy called The Man from Reading that does just that. My wife was a librarian. :-) --Thnidu (talk) 11:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

@Thnidu: Definitely Reading, Berkshire. There's an old story somewhere about a foreigner at Paddington seeing a train marked "For Reading Passengers Only". He shrugged and went to buy a newspaper. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:55, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

@John of Reading: Heh! – Well, I'm about falling over: it's 7:14 a.m. here and I'm not "up already", I'm "still up". Stupid me. Thanks. --Thnidu (talk) 12:15, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Abandoned account created an article draft in the wrong namespace, help with fix

User:RichardOled (with no prior edits) apparently created Help:New page as a draft article page for British history, didn't create a userpage or talkpage, and vanished. This was tagged over a year ago (4 July 2013) as being in the wrong namespace, and so I was bold and tried to clean up after them.

I moved the page to User:RichardOled/Draft and made a user page linking back to the draft subpage; I then usurped the title with a soft redirect pointing to User:RichardOled/Draft and a hatnote to the more probable title of Help:Creating a new page. Now editors trying to find instructions on page creation can find it, and the editor can find their article‑to‑be.

But I'm wondering if what I did was most logical. How likely is RichardOled to return? Is there some sort of "lost and found" for missing editors' abandoned articles? I understand a hard #REDIRECT for the first line of Help:New page would be enough for them to find the draft if they wished; would this be a more sensible course of action?
Is there actually a "lost and found" around here for this sort of thing?
Anything else I need to do, like flag the account as no longer active or something? meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 12:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

the page was speedy deleted as a hoax. if the user comes back looking for their content they are likely to be confused, but return seems unlikely. I have posted a version of what happened on their talk page which should trigger the notification if they return and if they have questions, more experienced users will hopefully help them piece together any confusing bits. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:49, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Changing an existing biography

I would greatly appreciate help changing an existing biography on Professor Barry Gusterson. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Gusterson. If possible I would like replace the article with changes below listed below but I don't know how to replace the original article with new one. I'm happy to type details on site if someone could give me some guidance on how to either create new one or delete old one:

Education: Gusterson was educated at Colchester Royal Grammar School and obtained a BSc in Physiology at St Bartholomew’s Hospital before obtaining a dental degree at the Royal Dental Hospital and a medical degree at St Bartholomew’s Hospital. He obtained a PhD on opiate receptors, at the Ludwig Institute and his MRCPath, whilst training at the Royal Marsden Hospital.

Career: Gusterson held posts in medicine and surgery at St Bartholow’s Hospital and the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital and was appointed as Professor of Histopathology at the Institute of Cancer Research and Consultant at the Royal Marsden Hospital in 1986. Whilst at the Institute he held a number of senior positions, including Chairman of the Section of Cell Biology and Experimental Pathology. He initiated the concept to build the first dedicated breast cancer research centre (1) and was appointed Founding Director of the Toby Robins, Breakthrough Breast Cancer Research Centre in 1998. In 2000 he moved to Glasgow University, where he held a number of senior positions as Professor of Pathology, Head of Forensic Science and Medicine, initiator and Director of the Glasgow Biobank. As Associate Dean for Research in the Medical faculty and Head of Cancer Sciences he restructured cancer sciences, which brought Glasgow up to 4th in the UK in the Research Assessment Exercise. He chaired the pan Glasgow pathology Committee that resulted in the unification of all pathology departments across Glasgow and Clyde into a new purpose built building at the Southern General Hospital. Gusterson retired in 2011 and became a Trustee for Moorfield’s Eye Charity and a member of Council for St George’s London University (2).

Research: Gusterson’s interests have been predominantly aimed at understanding the biology of head and neck cancer and breast cancer, with some earlier studies on soft tissue sarcomas (3). He is best known internationally for his studies on the normal breast and breast development. Since retiring his research interests continue in these areas. BarryG1 (talk) 12:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Barry Gusterson’s major achievements have been his vision in initiating two new cancer centres, which developed as major fundraising projects in which he played a key role as the clinical lead. These resulted in the building of the Toby Robins Breakthrough Breast Cancer Research Centre at the Institute of Cancer Research in London (4) and the Wolfson Wohl Cancer Research Centre at Glasgow University (5).

Awards: Gusterson was an Oakley Lecturer for the Pathological Society of Great Britain and Ireland and in 2009 received the Doniach Award for lifetime contributions to Pathology.

References and External Links:

1. http://www.breakthrough.org.uk/about-us/our-people/founding-fellows

2. http://www.sgul.ac.uk/about-st-georges/planning-secretariat-office/secretariat-office/council/council-independant-members/professor-barry-gusterson

3. http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Search?query=barry%20gusterson 4. http://www.breakthroughresearch.org.uk/research-centre/history

5. http://www.wolfson.org.uk/funding/case-studies/science-medicine/university-of-glasgow/

Philosophy on Life:

“Only dead fish swim with the stream” – Malcolm Muggeridge

the above is not acceptable encyclopedia article. wikipedia is not a webhost for posting CV's. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

correction request

To whom it may concern:

This is to request an edit to the page on Barbara R. Snyder, president of Case Western Reserve University. The link is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Snyder

Please remove the nickname "Babs" in the introduction line; the nickname is inaccurate and not used: Barbara "Babs" R. Snyder is an American academic and president of Case Western Reserve University. Snyder is the first woman to serve as Case Western Reserve's president.

Please email when the correction has been made.

Thank you for your attention to this.

129.22.113.69 (talk) 17:45, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Bill Lubinger Case Western Reserve University Director of Media Relations and Communications — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.22.113.69 (talk) 14:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Y Done. The questionable nickname had been added by anonymous user 63.253.206.94, without citation. I have removed it. Jax MN (talk) 14:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Delinking template parameters

Sometimes template parameters are automatically linked - is there a way to override this? Specifically, I want to delink the phrase "Special advisor" in the infobox on the Joe Gibbs article. Is this possible? —Mr. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:29, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done It depends on the template. In this particular case using the parameter currentpositionplain= instead of currentposition= avoids the wiki-link. DES ^(talk) 15:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Font size

Inadvertently I did something when changing my talk page that resulted in the point-size of text going way up and I think changing font as well. I can't seem to find how to go back to the previous default settings. It seems to be a Wiki issue as other websites appear as before on my screen. Thanks for your assistance. Sca (talk) 16:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

In most browsers you can change size with Ctrl and '+' or '-', or '0' to reset the size. Ctrl and mousewheel may also change size. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:33, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

OK, I got the point size down with the mousewheel. However, the page display remains different, with the search box at top right rather than in the left column as before. How to switch back? TNX. Sca (talk)

Page format

OK, I got the point size down with the mousewheel. However, the page display remains different, with the search box at top right rather than in the left column as before. How to switch back? TNX. Sca (talk) 17:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Search box at top right is the default. Maybe you have changed skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. The default is Vector. Search box placement is just one of many differences between skins. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Was this deliberately added?

Read this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:En-uk-Swindon.ogg. "hi how are you wuu2" Looks like vandalism to me. I am unable to edit it as it shows me that the page does not exist yet. I don't want to create this page because I'm not sure what consequences I may witness after I do.