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January 5

Changing Pictures

Hi there

After going quietly mad looking through all the options and getting nowhere, I am urgently needing to change the out of date logo's on the below pages.

The Breeze (radio network)

Fire Radio

I am the Marketing Manager at Celador Radio who owns the stations but can't seem to access the pages at all and it is important we update these. Is there any way some way can do this quickly?

Thanks so much. Charlotte — Preceding unsigned comment added by Celadorradio (talk • contribs) 10:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

There are two steps involved. If you use the recommended method, the first is to upload a copy of the current logo to Wikimedia Commons, possibly by using the "upload wizard" here . This will require you to provide a suitable copyright release in the name of the company. (This is something I cannot advise on, it seems to me to require an inordinate amount of bureaucracy. Maybe you, or another employee, can manage the bureaucracy – many people do.) The second step is much simpler - you go to the article The Breeze (radio network), click the "Edit" tab near the top centre, and on line 4 where it says " | image = [[File:The Breeze logo.PNG|250px]]", you replace "The Breeze logo.PNG" by whatever name you assigned to the image you uploaded, and then click the "Save Page" button near the bottom of the edit page. Maproom (talk) 11:19, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

@Maproom: There is no copyright release needed. The logos can be uploaded here and used under a claim of fair use. Dismas|^(talk) 11:59, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Right. Most organizations do not want to release their logo with a free license. Wikipedia's own logo is also copyrighted. http://www.fireradio.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/ says: "The names, images and logos identifying Fire Radio, Celador Radio Limited, or third parties and their products and services are subject to copyright, design rights and trade marks of Celador Radio Limited,and/or third parties used under license. Nothing contained in these terms shall be construed as conferring by implication, estoppel or otherwise any licence or right to use any trademark, patent, design right or copyright of the Celador Radio Limited."

@Celadorradio: Do you really have permission from your employer to release the logos with the license at commons:File:THE BREEZE tune in feel good.jpg and commons:File:Fire Logo.JPG? It allows others, for example unrelated radio stations, to use the logos for any purpose as long as they give attribution and mention the license. If you don't have permission then you can request deletion, for example by placing {{Copyvio|Non-free logo. Was uploaded with incorrect license.}} on the file pages. If they are deleted from Commons then they can still be added to the articles as fair use without losing the copyright, as said by Dismas. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your help! This is very confusing - should be easy to upload an image! How do I do the (If you don't have permission then you can request deletion, for example by placing {{Copyvio|Non-free logo. Was uploaded with incorrect license.}} on the file pages) you suggest? I have no idea! Very much a Wiki newbie!

(edit conflict) @Celadorradio: Click the link to the file page commons:File:THE BREEZE tune in feel good.jpg. Click the "Edit" tab at top of the page. Copy-paste the exact code {{Copyvio|Non-free logo. Was uploaded with incorrect license.}} as displayed here (not when you edit the section) to the top of the edit box. Write "request deletion as invalid license" in the "Edit summary" field. Click "Save page". Repeat for commons:File:Fire Logo.JPG. I could do it myself but it probably has more weight when it comes from the uploader. I don't have the ability to delete Commons files by myself. The complications in file uploading are mainly because we take copyright seriously. If the images are deleted at Commons then I can upload them here at the English Wikipedia with a fair use claim. Your account isn't able to do that before it becomes autoconfirmed so you would normally have to use Wikipedia:Files for upload. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

All done ..... I think! Fingers crossed I haven't crashed the entire Wikipedia page :) Lol! Thanks so much for your help and if I need to do anything else let me know. Knowing you guys are all on hand makes it much more reassuring making changes in future! Thanks again I appreciate your help protecting our brand :) Happy New Year! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.250.90 (talk) 13:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

You did everything right. The files are now listed in commons:Category:Copyright violations where a Commons administrator will see them. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Both files are gone now on Commons, and could be uploaded under "fair use" to en-Wiki only. GermanJoe (talk) 17:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Note though that it is not "fair use" as that term is understood in copyright law, but rather pursuant to Wikipedia's non-free content criteria which are more strict than fair use.--ukexpat (talk) 17:10, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

My apologies to Charlotte for the incorrect advice I gave. I am glad that things have been sorted out. Maproom (talk) 17:27, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I have uploaded File:The Breeze logo.jpg and File:Fire Radio logo.jpg to the English Wikipedia as fair use, and added them to The Breeze (radio network) and Fire Radio. Fair use should have low resolution so I reduced the resolution of The Breeze logo.jpg before upload. @Celadorradio: I see The Breeze (radio network) previously displayed File:The Breeze logo.PNG which is still used in many articles listed at the bottom of that page such as The Breeze (Andover). Should they all change to the new file? Fire Radio previously displayed File:Fireradio.PNG. Is that obsolete and can be deleted? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:49, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Transclusion help

Someone sent {{Link section}} and {{Sectionlink}} to TFD a while back, and I've just closed both discussions as "delete". Of course, I don't want to leave holes in articles, so I attempted to orphan both templates before deleting them, but WhatLinksHere has confused me. In general, when Template A is transcluded on Template B, and Template B is transcluded on Article C, WhatLinksHere will say that Template A is also transcluded on Article C; for an example, Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Navbox shows tons of pages transcluding {{navbox}}, even though it's a metatemplate that never gets used directly. Here, I learn that Link section is transcluded on Sectionlink, but Sectionlink is transcluded on lots of additional pages that don't appear for Link section. How can this be possible? I'm going to be on the road for most of today; if someone could orphan these templates, I'd really appreciate it. Feel free to tag them with {{db-xfd}} when you've succeeded. Nyttend (talk) 13:26, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Template B can be processed differently on its template page and in an article using it. If Article C processes Template B and never reaches Template A in that process then C does not transclude A, and WhatLinksHere for A will not include C. Template:Sectionlink has the code <noinclude>{{Documentation}}</noinclude>. That means {{Documentation}} will only be transluded on the template page and not on pages using the template (see WP:NOINCLUDE). {{Link section}} is transluded on Template:Sectionlink via {{Documentation}} which causes Template:Sectionlink/doc to be transcluded. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

A search for insource:/\{\{sectionlink/i [1] shows 133 uses. --  Gadget850 ^talk 20:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Reference for Hungarian composer

Dear All,

we are the management of Máté Bella. He is a living Hungarian composer and we would like to make the wikipage of Máté. There are asked some references about the composer. Is it possible to put Hungarian reference on the page (such as article) or we have to have article from any English newspaper.

If any other reference is accepted pls let us know.

Thank you for your help.

Brgds, Nikolett — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.6.65.224 (talk) 14:02, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I think it might be better to translate the existing Hungarian wikipedia version of the article about this composer ([2]). See Wikipedia:Translation#How_to_translate for specific instructions on how to go about doing this. CaptRik (talk) 14:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Unless I misunderstood the OP, the question was about references. It appears that the Hungarian article has no in-line citations to reliable sources. The answer to the question which I believe the OP was asking is that although English sources are preferred, non-English ones are acceptable. For more detail see WP:NONENG. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:17, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

If you are the management of the subject, you do also need to read Wikipedia's guidance on conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

ADDITION TO WIKIPEDIA PAGE

IS IT POSSIBLE TO ASK THAT AN ARTICLE PUBLISHED IN IRISH EDITION OF SUNDAY TIMES 1/5/15 BY KEVIN MYERS BE ADDED TO HIS WIKIPEDIA PAGE. " ITS TIME TO RETHINK THE AGE-OLD PHILOSOPHY OF PROLONGING OLD AGE " ??? THANK YOU, Ericcobrien (talk) 14:26, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

You will have more luck on the talk page of the article. Do remember to turn your caps lock off when you write there. Britmax (talk) 14:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

But in my view the answer is No, not until somebody unconnected with him writes a published article which says that he had this article published. Wikipedia is almost entirely based on what other people have said about subjects. --ColinFine (talk) 16:31, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

how can i message a email?

is it possilbe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kastloks (talk • contribs) 17:02, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Could you expand on that please, it makes it easier for people who are trying to help you. At a guess, is this WP:EMAIL what you want? - X201 (talk) 17:10, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

How to provide references and avoid deletion

Hi, Artur Zurawski page is up for deletion. How to avoid that. His is a genuine page, request your help here. He is a known person in India and Poland. You help will be highly appreciated. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.58.162.7 (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

The article in question is Artur Zurawski. I suggest that you do a Google search on his name and see what reliable sources you get for him. Also, any letters appended to names, such as DOP, should be explained. The question is not whether his is a genuine page, but whether he passes Wikipedia's standards of notability. Do a Google search for reliable mentions of him. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Moved, evidently at originator's request, to draft space at Draft:Artur Zurawski. Still a good idea to do a Google search. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:15, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

How do I continue to edit my sandbox page?

I created a page with my bio. First couple of words:"Lipiansky, Eduardo (Ed)". Did a show preview and saved. I want to add a couple more lines of information; how do I do that? Where is my sandbox page? Thank you. Ed Lipiansky- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.202.8.1 (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Ed. I can't find any such page. This IP address hasn't edited such a page: were you logged into an account when you did it? I suspect that you somehow failed to save the page: I'm sorry. However, before trying again, please read WP:autobiography for why you are strongly discouraged from writing an article about yourself in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 19:11, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Changing project for large number of pages

The WikiProject Motorcycling would like to move many articles (probably more than 1,000) to WikiProject Motorcycle racing. Is there a tool that could assist with this, rather than editing all the talk pages by hand? — Brianhe (talk) 19:23, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Try either WP:BOTREQ or WP:AWB/TA - X201 (talk) 20:04, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Conflicting information

I've found conflicting information in the article Tintin in Tibet: it claims Hergé went to see psychiatrist Franz Riklin, but the wikipedia article about Riklin mentions he died twenty years before! The claim in the article is however backed up by five references. What would be the appropriate way to point this out, and is there a specific infobox for cases like this one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackEagle17 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

@BlackEagle17: Usually the article talkpage is the best place for such concerns (at least for actively maintained articles). But I fixed the link already (to a redlink for now), this book: [3] mentions 2 Franz Riklins, father and son, with the son living from 1909-1969 and also active in analytical psychology. The article must refer to the son, as the father was already dead by this time. GermanJoe (talk) 20:36, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Page Submission

Hi,

I submitted our company page for Fora Financial in my user sandbox. When will this be approved and a live business page? I want to make sure I submitted this in the right spot?

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElissaF (talk • contribs) 20:01, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

@ElissaF: User:ElissaF/sandbox has not been submitted. Click "Submit your draft for review!" in the box at top and then click the "Save page" button. But first made inline references to show which information is referenced where. See Help:Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:19, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, ElissaF. I fear from your language that you may have a misapprehension about Wikipedia. We do not have "business pages": we have encyclopaedia articles, which summarise in neutral language what writers unconnected with the subject have written about the subject and published in reliable places. Every single piece of information should be referenced to a reliable published source; and apart from uncontroversial factual data like dates and locations, it should all be drawn from independent sources. Clearly, some information in your draft can be - and should be - referenced to the sources you have included; but most of the content is not so referenced, and should not be in an article unless it can be referenced. --ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Please wait before creating a page about a company or organization.
Since you have a close connection to the company or organization, you have a conflict of interest. Please read the FAQ first. If you still think your article is appropriate, you can submit it to Articles for creation. Just click this link and follow the instructions. --  Gadget850 ^talk 10:23, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Myverick Garcia should have a page just like her successor.

Myverick Garcia should have a page just like her successor. similar backgrounds and history. Bangladeshi Miss Mississippi has a page and Myverick does not. They both grew up in Hattirsburg Mississippi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.21.181.223 (talk) 22:16, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

If you create a registered account, you will be able to use the Article Wizard to create an article in draft space and then request its review. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. The criterion for Wikipedia having an article is not about background and history. It is solely about whether enough information has been published about the subject in reliable sources (such as major newspapers) to provide the basis for an article. --ColinFine (talk) 23:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Want to upload an image to an article

Hi There,

I wanted to insert an image into an article but I'm having a fair bit of trouble how do I upload the file to insert?

The article I wanted to insert the image into is:

The Crystal Set

The link to the image is:

http://www.volume-on-line.com/Crystal_Set_Image/Crystal_Set.jpg

The caption is to read.

The Crystal Set. Russell Kilby, Luke Blackburn, Phil Maher, Tim Seckhold

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karl Blake (talk • contribs) 23:54, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Our software is set up so that image cannot be displayed unless they're already uploaded to our servers; you do this by going to Special:Upload and following the directions. There are copyright issues that also need to be considered; the picture needs to be released under what Wikipedia calls a "free license", and unless you personally pressed the shutter, we need evidence that the person who took the picture wants it to have this "free license". I can give more details if you wish. Nyttend (talk) 01:11, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Changes to the PACNET page

Hi There

I'm requesting changes to the PACNET page Pacnet following the acquisition of Pacnet by Telstra announced on December 23, 2014.

Telstra's acquisition of Pacnet includes interests in its China joint venture, PBS, licensed to operate a domestic Internet Protocol Virtual Private Network and provide data centre services in most major provinces in China.

http://www.telstra.com.au/aboutus/media/media-releases/telstra-acquires-asian-telecommunications-and-service-provider-pacnet.xml

Lgb333 (talk) 23:57, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for the information. If you have any further information you wish to contribute on Pacnet you may edit the article yourself, quoting relevant references, or post a request to the article's talk page: Noyster (talk), 11:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

January 6

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

I was looking for information regarding James Ten Eyck, the Varsity Crew Coach from Syracuse University, and under his name is listed Numismatist. I then was looking at images of James Ten Eyck, of which there are quite a few. Mixed in with those images, is one of a different James Ten Eyck. He lived in New York City, 1840 - 1910, and he was a well known coin collector, owner among other rarities, of a Brasher Doubloon. That is the only reference I have, which I tried to cite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nstewart10 (talk • contribs) 03:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I have removed that section from James A. Ten Eyck, and referred in the edit summary to the Google image search. The numismatist might deserve an article, or at least a mention in Ten Eyck family. Thanks for pointing it out. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Trying to edit an bad post

I am trying to edit a bad post on this site, how do i do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyH2jj (talk • contribs) 04:17, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

If you're referring to this, you need to provide a published source to back up your assertion. Do you have one? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:22, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Btw, here's a source for that:

• "Mike Hawker - obituary". Telegraph. Telegraph Media Group Ltd. 3 July 2014. Retrieved 6 January 2015.

~Eric, aka:71.20.250.51 (talk) 04:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

merging 2 articles

Dear friends, a week ago I suggested that Shimon ben Yeshua ben Eliezer ben Sira be merged into Ben Sira. There's been no comments since, so I assume it's OK to go ahead. I propose to move all useful stuff into Ben Sira article, and then put a redirect in the other location. Is this the right way to procede? Please advise. Eio-cos (talk) 04:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I've never merged articles but WP:MERGE might help here. Dismas|^(talk) 04:54, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, Dismas! Job is done. --Eio-cos (talk) 17:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Limit on signatures

I tried to make a new signature...

Qwerty2000 (talk)

But while attempting to create this, it ran out of room. Can you please expand the size limit for signatures, or have templates for colour? Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 06:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@Qwertyxp2000: Well, the limit is there for a good reason - everyone using excessively long signature code will potentially make editing talk pages more convoluted than it already is. Template:Color is what you're looking for, though :) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 07:06, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Let me try again... Qwerty2000 (talk)

(edit conflict) Per WP:SIGNATURE, "Keep signatures short, both in display and in markup." The colorful signature you show here takes up three lines on my screen in the edit window. That's a lot of space just to say your name. Dismas|^(talk) 07:13, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

It takes about two lines on a 1980 x 1080 computer. What is the desirable resolution aim for Wikipedia? Qwerty2000 (talk) 07:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't think there is a necessarily a "desirable" resolution - websites should be built responsively so the maximum number of users will have a positive experience. While more and more people are using higher resolutions, there is still quite some variance - and in Wikipedia's case, where the aim is to educate people from all over the world, accessibility is particularly important. That being said, the limit is 255 characters. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 07:19, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I know that you aren't required to have the text in a signature match your username, but it does seem odd to have qwertyxp2000 as an account, but the signature say querty2000 (without the xp)Naraht (talk) 15:39, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Dusty Springfield

Hey guys, when reading your write-up on Dusty Springfield, there was no mention of her back-up work in support of Eddie Money's hit: "take me home tonight" (which I think was in 1986). Also, there is no mention (in the other direction)of her effort on this particular piece on your bio/write-up of Eddie Money. Just thought you might want to know. Congrats on the fundraising ...you guys are awesome!-- Fitz98.235.12.93 (talk) 08:20, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Fitz. Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia anyone can edit. So if you have a published source for this information, you are welcome to add it (with a reference to the source) to the article. (If you haven't a published source, you should not add it). Either way, if you haven't a source, or are nervous about editing the article, you can make a section on the article's talk page Talk:Dusty Springfield, suggesting the change, so that somebody with an interest in the subject can look for a reference (if you haven't given one) and add it to the article. Thanks for the suggestion, and the congratulations. --ColinFine (talk) 16:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Authority control

I can't figure out the proper Library of Congress parameter value for Ethel Hill.[4] Clarityfiend (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@Clarityfiend: I've added it in. It's not very user friendly but take the code and add a slash after the letter prefix (which varies) and after the year prefix, which will be a full year for some and a partial year for others. Here it was: no90003425, which becomes no/90/003425. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:35, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Yikes! Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

editing sidebars??

via the searchengine, namespace help, I could not find any helpful information about how to edit a sidebar (change it?!!) of which I find in the editable code of an article only the coded title, e.g. {{islamism sidebar}}... arcane knowledge... thanx!

sorry, I can not sign this because as soon as I hit the sign-icon "chrome has been shut down"... my wikiname is HilmarHansWerner --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 14:41, 6 January 2015 (UTC) (now it worked)

The template you're referring to (which I've made into a link, instead of allowing it to display here) has three linked letters at the very bottom, on the right hand side: "V" "T" and "E", which stand for respectively "V"iew this template, discuss ("T"alk about) this template, and "E"dit this template. That's really just a side note though, and will not help you with the majority of templates that do not have such links. Please read Help:Template, so you understand what a template is. In short, anytime you see code inside opening and closing curly braces ({{...}}) that's a template being called, and the template itself will always be in the template namespace, and thus at a name like Template:Whatever the name is, where you can edit it. The template you used as an example is thus located at Template:islamism sidebar where it can be edited. Please note though that a change to a template like this will make that change display in every article it is used in. For that reason, it is often a good idea to discuss edits first, on the talk page, and to be very careful when you make the edits. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:50, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

thanks a lot! used already your link to edit it... suggestion: make your helpful info into a help-article with the title "how to edit sidebars" or "sidebar-editing"...?!! --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 15:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Moral Action Committee and Dr. John Adams

We would desire to see Wikipedia add the Moral Action Committee and our Executive Director Dr. John M. Adams added to you information group. This is a viable and much read presentation about morality in America and around the world. submitted by the Board of Trustees and Chairman of Moral Action.... <redacted promotional material> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.211.117.36 (talk) 16:23, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Please make your request at WP:Requested articles.--ukexpat (talk) 16:32, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Please read the conflict of interest policy. Making your request at WP:Requested articles is a request that the article be written by a neutral editor. Bear in mind that if the article is written, you will not have control of it, because it is the work of the Wikipedia community. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Citing wikipedia in wikipedia

HEllo,

I want to know if we can cite wikipedia articles while creating a wikipedia article.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhairikfuletra (talk • contribs) 16:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

No you can't; see WP:CIRCULAR. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:50, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

What you can do is to copy the references from one article to another, if they are applicable to both articles. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

And if you read them yourself. --  Gadget850 ^talk 20:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Foreign language fonts

I often encounter pages where non-latin character sets appear as small boxes instead of specific characters. I have tried changing my personal 'language preferences', so that the fonts to be displayed are downloaded as and when required. However, this has had no effect on a Wiki page that I presently wish to read, even after I restart my computer. Is there something else I must do? For information, I am using a PC running Windows 8. DStanB (talk) 17:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, DStanB. I'm afraid I don't know the answer. But Help:Fonts may provide useful information. --ColinFine (talk) 20:21, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, ColinFine. Good of you to try to help, but Help:Fonts seems to be mostly for editors wanting to insert specialist fonts. I can't find anything that tells the casual browser why their displays do not pick up those fonts properly. I have now set the same question on the Talk page of the article where I am having this problem myself, which is on Greek numerals. --DStanB (talk) 14:21, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Adding a photo

Heading added by ColinFine (talk) 20:21, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

have a new wiki page that is approved. how do i add a photo--i submitted one to you and it said it was linked to the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chdant (talk • contribs) 18:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Chdant. If you mean the article Charles "Bud" Dant, I think you have worked out how. --ColinFine (talk) 20:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

How to replace image on page

Hi - How to I replace the image on this page (Canadian Agency for Drugs and Technologies in Health)? We have updated the logo for the new year. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Health4Cdns (talk • contribs) 19:12, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to the newly uploaded logo? Ruslik_Zero 20:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Health4Cdns. The existing logo is a non-free image, used in accordance with the WP:non-free content criteria. You can upload a new version, as long as this use still complies with these criteria, by going to File:Cadth Logo.png and picking "Upload a new version of this file". Once you have uploaded a new version, the article should pick up the new version. On another subject, please be aware that the article is liable to be deleted unless some citations are added to reliable sources independent of the agency, because at present the article does not meet the criteria for notability. --ColinFine (talk) 20:32, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:TAFIACCOMP

I do not understand how {{Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Accomplishments/row}} works. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 20:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Please can you show how to use it and show what these things mean and how I can put these things in.

{{Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Accomplishments/row
|YYYY     = 
|WW       = 
|oldid    = 
|olddate  = 
|oldclass = 
|newid    = 
|newdate  = 
|newclass = 
|edits    = 
|editors  = 
|IPs      = 
|bots     = 
|reverts  = 
|prose_before = 
|prose_after  = 
|size_before  = 
|size_after   = 
}}

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 20:16, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

All parameters are documented at your link {{Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Accomplishments/row}}. Click the "Edit" tab at Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Accomplishments to see lots of examples. Come back if you have a specific problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Reusing content

I am thinking of writing a book and I want to use Wikipedia information as my main source. How can I do that legally. I don't want to get in any trouble. To clarify better the book is not going to be a story, it will be a book of compiled information. Thank you 20:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Papagator0075 (talk • contribs)

You are free to reuse Wikipedia content provided that you comply with the terms of reuse.--ukexpat (talk) 20:55, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

brown playdoh

How come you don't make brown playdoh? My granddaughter would love to find some. She is sad that there is none. She is light brown herself and there is none for her to use to make her own family, ice cream cones, brownie's, hamburger's, and more things. Please let us known where you have brown.

Respectfully, <redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.155.208.99 (talk) 22:59, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Nyttend (talk) 23:26, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Hyper Link

I added a name and description of a notable alum on a school website. How do I get his name to hyper link to his Wikipedia page entry rather than having it appear in black with no link. Do I have to re-do the edit? Broadway Bob (talk) 23:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

[[Example]] will produce Example. Take a look at Help:Cheatsheet for more info. Scarce2 (talk) 23:12, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

If I understand Broadway Bob's question, it is about embedding a link to Wikipedia on another website: if so, Scarce2's suggestion won't help, as that is for links within Wikipedia. If I am right, then I'm afraid that will depend on what technology your school website uses, and we can't really help. It may be enough to use the full URL (eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Helena for the article Saint Helena: whether you can make that display some different text or not depends on the software. --ColinFine (talk) 23:53, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I totally misread it, I thought the user was adding someone to a list of notable alum on a school's article. Scarce2 (talk) 01:22, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Broadway Bob shows you were right. Posters often use incorrect terminology, in this case "website" about a Wikipedia article. The edit [5] was however reverted [6] with edit summary "remove Bob Dunn (cartoonist) as notable; no source here, no mention in his article and no source found in a Google search". Our policy Wikipedia:Verifiability requires published reliable sources. @Broadway Bob: Maybe you have personal knowledge that he went to the school, for example if you heard it directly from the subject, but that is not sufficient for Wikipedia. Anyway, the way to make the link would have been [[Bob Dunn (cartoonist)|Bob Dunn]] which renders as Bob Dunn, so it links to the right article without displaying "(cartoonist)". PrimeHunter (talk) 02:19, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

January 7

Upcoming concert tours

Hi there. I left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Concert Tours about a week ago, but didn't get a response. Today someone posted the same question. I'm not sure that project is an active one, so hopefully you can help. What's the policy on articles about upcoming concert tours, such as the Anything Goes Tour? It seems like blatant advertising to me, and a bit of WP:CRYSTAL. Wikipedia:WikiProject Concert Tours doesn't address this, but seems to infer that articles about concert tours should be written after they are finished. I'm reluctant to nominate it for deletion without some input. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 04:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm at my wits' end. We're seeing tons of kpop articles for tours that haven't happened yet, songs that haven't been released yet, albums that haven't been released yet, pop groups that haven't debuted yet, etc. And when we try to AFD them, people just come along and say "we're just gonna recreate it anyway so stop wasting people's time and leave the article alone." Isn't there some way to filter this stuff out during the AFC process? It's getting tedious AFDing all of them and making some article creators very bitter and vengeful. Shinyang-i (talk) 05:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

What's wrong with making a spammer feel vengeful and bitter? Maproom (talk) 11:05, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

@Shinyang-i: Are WP:A7 and WP:A8 no use? - X201 (talk) 11:07, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

If an unacceptable article keeps being created, it can be salted. --ColinFine (talk) 11:11, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh everything that's being created is real stuff, it's all been announced via artists' own websites, and of course it's all claimed as being vastly important, so I'm not sure A7 or A8 apply. None of it is notable, of course, since something that hasn't happened yet can very rarely have attained notability. But the AFDs are all hell and are all are now getting more 'keep' votes than 'delete' once all the people clueless about how Wikipedia works show up. They say how stupid it is to delete the articles when they'll just be recreated upon the items' releases... Isn't there some better way to deal with this? Isn't there just a policy somewhere that says "don't make articles for stuff before it happens/is released"? :( Shinyang-i (talk) 12:59, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL - nothing is notable until it has received significant coverage in reliable sources.--ukexpat (talk) 13:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I know that, but I sure hope whoever is monitoring these AFDs does. So many clueless editors keep voting that I'm afraid the AFDs will all get closed as "no consensus". Kpop fans believe that a mere announcement of something = notability, and until they are given a list of explicit rules in writing about what they can and cannot create and what they can and cannot put into articles, they'll keep doing whatever they want and making life miserable for editors who actually have a clue. Sorry, I'm just getting sick of editors who are unwilling or unable to understand concepts and only look for technicalities. Argh. Shinyang-i (talk) 13:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I think most admins are savvy enough to give "fankeeps" the weight they deserve.--ukexpat (talk) 21:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Cyber bullying on the Chebo people article

The article in question is Chebo people. This article is very demeaning. I am a person of both Oromo people and Gurage people heritage. I ask you kindly to urgently take down this article.

It is worth noting that no such ethnic group exists with such a title to date according to the Ethiopian National Census documents, which can be found on http://www.csa.gov.et/index.php/2013-02-20-14-51-51/2013-04-01-11-53-00/census-2007.

Without question, there are assimilation of people all over the country, if not the world. In Ethiopia alone, there are assimilation of Amhara people with Tigray people, Gurage people with Amhara people, Silt'e people with Gurage people, Anuak people with Nuer people, etc.

However, there is never a moment taken to name any of these other groups of people who have assimilated into other cultures. Let alone singling out this particular group, I especially find it highly demeaning when we are being reduced to a name of a plant or twig for whatever purpose; please, wikipedia editors stop this harassment! We are people with proud heritage, language, and identity. Gurage people are one of the most loved in the entire country (my personal opinion, but I don't think you will find many who disagree). Oromo people are one of the most populous and with a long history.

On the merits of the references being cited, I have the following to say about it.

1) It reads " One possible explanation of the name of the ethnic group, Chebo, is their affinity of the chebo plant which is normally burned during Meskel damera celebrations."

The statement above uses the Tadele, et al. 2014 source to show that there is a plant named Chebo (in the article it is spelled Chibo). It also shows the scientific name, Vernonia leopoldi, to which an external link is also cited. However, there is no citation for the possible explanation of the name, Chebo, being used to label my people. Up until this article, there was no formal use of the term to label any group of people. As the source indicates, the name has always been attributed to a plant/ twig.

2) It reads " Another possible explanation arises from the name of the area where the Chebo people live. Parts of the Debub Mirab Shewa Zone use to be incorporated in the Chebo and Gurage Awraja in the Shewa province, as it used to be known prior to 1995."

The statement above is also very misleading. The sources cited are to indicate that some time ago that area used to be known as Chebo and Gurage district (awraja). However, again, there is no citation that shows the people that live in the district themselves used to be referred to anything other than either Gurage or Oromo people.

Therefore, both statements are completely farce and pure fabrications.

I hope you understand that this is labeling people with names they never have had and never should have. I honestly can't imagine very many people calling their tribes by reducing their name to one of a twig or branch or a stick. Being a person of this particular heritage (of both Gurage and Oromo heritage), I find it disturbing and insulting. THIS IS CYBER BULLYING.

I thank you for reading through this very lengthy complaint.

Thank you,

Notes

• 1^ "Vernonia leopoldi Vatke". Retrieved November 2, 2014.
• 2 ^ Tadele, et al. 2014
• 3 ^ Kloos,et al. 1987
• 4 ^ Kloos, et al. 1989

References

• Kloos, Helmut, A. Etea, A. Degefa, H. Aga, B. Solomon, K. Abera, A. Abegaz, G. Belemo. 1987. Illness and health behaviour in Addis Ababa and rural central Ethiopia. Soc. Sci. Med., 25 (9): 1003-1019.
• Kloos, Helmut, A. Adugna. 1989. Settler migration during the 1984/85 resettlement programme in Ethiopia. Geo Journal, 19.2: 113-127.
• Tadele, Desalegn, E. Lulekal, D. Damtie, A. Assefa. 2014. Floristic diversity and regeneration status of woody plants in Zengena Forest, a remnant montane forest patch in northwestern Ethiopia. Journral of Forestry Research, 25 (2): 329-336.

HagereNew (talk) 08:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

References

I've removed the one reference I could check and tagged the article with cite check. It will need someone with access to the article sources to check the other refs. I can only find extracts, someone in a University with free access to the papers will need to check them. - X201 (talk) 10:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I see no evidence of bullying. There is a paragraph saying that the Chebo are of Oromo and Gurage origin, and there is a paragraph on the etymology of the name. Nothing there is derogatory. However, if the first (unreferenced) paragraph is mistaken, and "Chebo" is not the name of any ethnic group, then I agree that the article should be deleted. Maproom (talk) 11:03, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Like User:Maproom, I see no evidence of bullying, and the allegation of cyberbullying is one that Wikipedia takes very seriously, and so should not be made casually. The article has been tagged as to a possible incorrect use of a reference. If the name is not that of any ethnic group, then it can be nominated for deletion via Articles for Deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:18, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

The Harley Street Clinic

Hi

I put together an article about the history of The Harley Street Clinic yesterday under my username MalcolmMcCo.

When it came up it had my user number in the title followed by "The Harley Street Clinic".

I have tried to find the entry today but now cannot find it.

Where would it have gone and how would I remove the long number?

Kind Regards

Malcolm McCoskery — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalcolmMcCo (talk • contribs) 11:27, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You created it on the userspace of an non-logged in user(See Contributions at the top right of this page). I've moved it so that it's under your username. Its now here (User:MalcolmMcCo/The Harley Street Clinic) - X201 (talk) 11:42, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You should realise that in its current state, it is far from suitable as an encyclopedia article. It does not start by making it clear what the Clinic is. And it uses language such as "This is somewhat different to what we do today!" which is totally out of place in an encyclopedia. Maproom (talk) 12:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

@MalcolmMcCo: If you are the same Malcolm that is the Marketing Manager for the Harley Street Clinic, you should be aware of our conflict of interest policy. And if you are acting for Malcolm, then you should also read our username policy which says, in part, "Any user account should represent an individual and not a group". Dismas|^(talk) 13:47, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.

I have amended to a) explain who The Harley Street Clinic is - I have tried to make this factual rather than as a sales tool b) I have taken out the sentence that you highlighted. I have also made other amends to de-personalise c) I am the same Malcolm who is the Marketing Manager for The Harley Street Clinic. I certainly do not wish to fall foul of your Conflict of Interest Policy but I am sincerely wishing to produce a "non-sales" article that is for information about our quite famous and internationally recognised hospital. Much of the information was gleaned from The Marylebone Journal.

I hope this is OK but I will do anything to help you make the article acceptable.

Please note that I have also noticed that our main competitor in Harley Street - The London Clinic - have their own page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_London_Clinic

Kind Regards

Malcolm McCoskery — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalcolmMcCo (talk • contribs) 16:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

The version you are working on now starts by saying what street gives access to the Clinic's reception desk; but not what city or even country it is in. That may be fine in publicity material aimed at rich Londoners; but a Wikipedia article should be aimed at English-readers throughout the world. You will also need to add better references: at present there are only two, both lacking dates, issue numbers, etc. (The article The London Clinic is somewhat better written, but has no acceptable references at all – please don't take that as your model.) Maproom (talk) 17:06, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I have removed the duplicate submission template, but in any event, in its current form it still has absolutely zero chance of being accepted. It is way too promotional in tone and has no reliable, third party sources to demonstrate notability per WP:CORP.--ukexpat (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Website upgraded; URLs changed; refs broken

Hi all. Sorry if this isn't the ideal venue for this question. I've just realised that the British History Online website (https://www.british-history.ac.uk/), which holds digitised versions of the numerous Victoria County History publications, has had a major makeover. Unfortunately they have changed all the URLs at which individual chapters are held. Even more unfortunately, there appears to be no obvious way to map from the old URL to the new one.

Example: the chapter "Crawley New Town: Public services" in the Victoria County History of Sussex Volume 6 Part 3 (1987), previously located at https://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=18420, is now at https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/sussex/vol6/pt3/pp89-91. In the "old" URLs, the number at the end is just a sequential number which doesn't relate to a specific book, volume etc.

Sadly I have used VCH refs in a huge number of places across many articles, including some of GA- and FL-class status. Probably other editors have as well. At this stage, two questions occur to me:

• Is there a standard recommendation (WP policy, guideline etc.), or procedure to go through, when a situation like this is discovered?
• Is it possible to generate a list of all articles in which a URL appears? – Specifically, in this case, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=xxxxx That would at least give me something to work from in relation to swapping out old URLs for new ones.

Any suggestions gratefully received! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:05, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You can use Special:LinkSearch. --  Gadget850 ^talk 14:09, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

This will list the external links - X201 (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

(ecx2)Hi Hassocks. The central issue here is called WP:Linkrot. The page also has some mitigation measures. In this case, could it be possible to contact the British History Online with a request to help us out? Stable URL's would be great, but if they could help us with a mapping (and I have a reasonable suspicion that at least technically they should be able to) a bot run could fix the broken links. And add archive links. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

It may be possible to salvage them from the info in Wikipedia. I've only tried this on three articles but the new URL format uses Volume, Part and Page numbers. These numbers are already in the citations on WP, it may be possible for a fancy bit of RegEx to strip the required info from the old citation and use it to make the new url. This would need checking to make sure it holds true for all pages on the British History site, but I think it stands a chance of working. - X201 (talk) 14:34, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

That seems tricky. Extracting "/vch/sussex/" from "Victoria County History of Sussex" doesn't seem all that regular from this single example (unless all titles are in the pattern "x y history of z". Are they?) I don't mind autowikibrowsering it up when I get home, but I don't want to set too high expectations. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 14:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

All of the new urls seem to be in the format https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/ county / volume / page numbers. We already have the county, volume and page numbers in the citation. extracting it and tacking https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/ on the from was my plan. But the formatting of some refs and some of the urls on that site aren't consistent. - X201 (talk) 14:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

That helps. If anyone wants to attempt to AWB it up, you will want to attempt to replace {{([cC]ite\s*[wW]eb\s*\|\s*url=)https:\/\/www\.british-history\.ac\.uk\/report\.aspx\?compid=\d+([^}]*Volume (\d+) Part (\d+)[^}]*work=\[\[Victoria County History\]\] of (\w+)[^}]*pages=(\d+).(\d+)[^}]*}}) with {{$1url=https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/$5/vol$3/pt$4/pp$6-$7$2. I'd like to stress this is very bad code and if you attempt to do this please check if it's doing the intended thing. If this works for more than even half the links I'd be happily surprised. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 16:14, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm focusing on specific books e.g "Book of Sussex" to start with. Have just done a test edit and will now check to see if it works. - X201 (talk) 16:17, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Edit Conflict - On further examination there are too many variables like county name, and certain differences in the formatting of their site. I think contacting them would be the easier route, if you can get a list of the page mappings someone at WP:BOTREQ would be able to help you out. - X201 (talk) 14:54, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Excellent – I've just gone into my AWB (for the first time in a couple of years) and tried Martijn Hoekstra's suggested code. I tweaked it slightly, but it looks like it will work fine for all instances where the chapter is over 2 or more pages (which is the majority of them). I have to say I had no clue about how to use Regex functions until now, and in fact I didn't even know it was possible to do things like this, but I worked it out through a bit of trial and error—so I've learnt something very useful today! I tested it at User:Hassocks5489/Forge Wood, a sandbox article I'm working on at the moment. In due course I will (carefully) go through and change the rest of the articles that use VCH references. Thanks to X201 as well, and to Gadget850 for the link (I will add that to my list of useful links). Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 19:21, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Great to hear it works. If you need more help, don't hesitate to ask! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:55, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Also, note that I think you can set AWB to load all pages from a list, possibly that list. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:57, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Reinstating a deleted page

Hello,

I am writing from a company New Net Technologies who had a page Change Tracker, that was linked to from the File Integrity Monitoring page under Applications - File integrity monitoring - The Change Tracker page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Change_Tracker%E2%84%A2&action=edit&redlink=1 was deleted by Tokyogirl79, and I am keen to see if we can get the page reinstated with new content.

Please can you advise how I might get the page reinstated and also whether the content below would meet the Wiki guidelines. I have read the notability guidelines and feel that this would be appropriate. If you advise this also, then I can provide full references before the final submission.

collapsing draft text.--ukexpat (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

New Net Technologies is an IT Security and Compliance Software Manufacturer with Offices in the United States of America and the United Kingdom. The company was founded in 2005 when it launched its software solution NNT Change Tracker Enterprise. The solution was originally designed for monitoring IT networks for unexpected changes but has since developed into an Enterprise-wide solution for Servers, Desktops, Applications, Network Devices & Databases. The company is privately held by the current management team. NNT Provides solutions for: File Integrity Monitoring System Vulnerability Hardening Change Management Configuration Management Corporate website www.newnettechnologies.com

Thank you very much for your help.

SMartin1234 (talk) 14:43, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

This question was answered at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions 35 minutes before you posted this duplicate question here. Please only ask questions in one place, and do not go Forumshopping, in the hope that you will get a different answer.- Arjayay (talk) 14:55, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I was not hoping for a different answer. I had read the feedback on Teahouse and read the notability guidelines. I did however not get any feedback on the proposed new content which I was hoping to get here. Please could you advise next steps on how I might get feedback or propose the new content? Thank you SMartin1234 (talk) 15:00, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

It's unclear to me whether your content above is for an article about the company or about its product. Either way, it is unlikely it would get past an WP:CSD#A7.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Among the many other problems, I suggest you read WP:PROMO, and specifically WP:SOLUTIONS. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:07, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Page deletion

Hi, I am Tomcapa1 -- I wrote an article on a UK progressive Catholic organization-- article called A Call to Action. Without being paranoid I may say that it has plenty of enemies, and quite a few people argued for deletion, no doubt sometimes at least on partly justifiable grounds. An administrator came on board, and soon became less than helpful, and I have to say (I am not mentioning his name) did reveal some ideological interests of his own. I have copied this on to a file because I was surprised. Several people also spoke up for the article, and I have continually been trying to improve it both in content and formatting (the latter a weakness because of my inexperience). Then unbeknown to me and with no notification the article was deleted by another administrator who had made no previous comment. I only found out a week later by a third party informant who had tried to look up the article. I contacted the first administrator who gave me the name of the second. I have asked the second for an explanation, but there has been no reply yet. I have not been able to access the deletion log, although I gather there is one, and apparently on that there is no explanation of deletion. I have asked another administrator from the list 'some administrators' for a copy of the deleted file so that I can make some further improvements, but have not heard back either from him. I am wondering if a deletion that does not provide even the briefest explanation is actually permitted or whether it can be automatically reversed for lack of due process. The first administrator -- not the one who deleted it-- says that the grounds were lack of notability, but I would strenuously contest this as the organization was interviewed on BBC Today programme and has various press references cited and a strong national profile and big conferences. I am rather unhappy at the intervention of this administrator who did the final deletion as it seems a little strange and irregular to me. Hope this isn't too boring for you, but advice and help would be greatly appreciated and I am hampered by my inexperience here. Tomcapa1 (talk) 14:47, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

The article was deleted after a community discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Call To Action. If you wish to contest the closure of this discussion, the correct venue in which to do so is Deletion Review. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Why though was no notification given to me on my talk page and why no explanation provided on the deletion log? Does this make the deletion illegitimate? Tomcapa1 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

The deletion log has a link to the deletion discussion. - X201 (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

True, but there is no deletion summary by the deleting administrator, which makes it seem very cavalier. Also no one has responded to my request for the original-- largely written by me, and worked on tirelessly, which will be revised and resubmitted. I have now asked both the first and second administrators, and a third from the 'some administrators@. Is there no way I can access it and what do I do if none of these respond? Thanks very much Tomcapa1 (talk) 15:08, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

You made over a dozen contributions to the deletion discussion, so you must have been aware of its existence. And the main reason given (repeatedly) there for its deletion was that it lacked references providing evidence of its notablity. Instead of continuing to argue that it should not have been deleted, you could use your time better in finding a few such references. Maproom (talk) 15:12, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'd be happy to email you the deleted content; give me a few minutes... Yunshui ^雲_水 15:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Anne F. Walker

Hi,

I am trying to create a page for a poet, Anne F. Walker from the San Francisco Bay Area. This is my first article and learning this method is a bit challenging. When I tried to submit the page it was explain the information may be unconstructive. I completely disagree but I am not sure what is the next step in getting approved. Any assistance would be valuable and greatly appreciated. Also, I included the page information below. Thank you!

Copying your draft article here is unnecessary. The original is at User:WritersCraftHNU. I have deleted the copy you put here. Maproom (talk) 17:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

The most important step you would need to take to get the article approved is to add references to reliable independent published sources, giving evidence of the subject's notability (click on that blue word for an explanation of the way it is used here). Someone also needs to work on the formatting, removing the excessive use of boldface; and to reduce the lists of publications and awards, which make it look more like a resumé than an encyclopedia article. Maproom (talk) 17:30, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

The software gave you warnings about unconstructive editing because it saw the word "FUCK", in capitals. This is often a sign of an unhelpful edit. The software was not clever enough to see that your edit was an exception. -- John of Reading (talk) 23:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Liz Johnson (Swimmer)

Hi,

I was attempting to edit Liz Johnson (Swimmer)'s References as one of them I know for a fact is out of date the Threshold Sports page. However somehow all of her References were removed which I didn't intend to do. Is there anyway you could restore all of these References barring the Threshold Sports one?

Ash185.14.208.253 (talk) 17:36, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, a bot already reverted/fixed your changes on the Liz Johnson (swimmer) article automatically. I added an archive link for the dated source. Please do not delete sources, just because they are a bit dated. Of course you can replace them, if you know more actual, reliable sources (see WP:RS, and WP:EL for information on acceptable and not acceptable external links). GermanJoe (talk) 18:03, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

deleted local article

I began a rough bio on a local prominent real estate magnate that was deleted for not being important or significant enough, I'd like that put back up please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popelak (talk • contribs) 17:46, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

There is no such thing as a 'local article' - this is an international project. And if the article was deleted because the subject wasn't notable enough to meet the relevant notability criteria, why should we restore it? Not that we can, unless you tell us the name of the individual - and then provide evidence that this individual is notable by our criteria. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

There is no way on earth that the joke "article" John Philip Gordon, about your pal the "self made thousandaire and renowned ladies man", is going to be restored. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:37, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Redirect/disambiguation help needed

I'm somewhat familiar with the WP rules for disambiguation, but I'm really rusty on implementing them. Maybe somebody can do what is needed here, so I can look at it and learn. Of course I'm also open to comments on what I propose.

I've just created Ken Carson (musician), who was a pretty important entertainer of the 1930s-1950s. Right now, searching for Ken Carson redirects to Ken (doll), a toy whose imaginary last name isn't one of its important features. What I think should happen is that "Ken Carson (musician)" should be renamed as "Ken Carson", so that searching for his name leads to him, a real person, rather than to a toy with a tenuous connection to the word "Carson". The redirect should be removed, and a disambiguation hatnote link to Ken (doll) should be added to the musician article.

I just don't know how to do that myself, and I don't want to ruin anything by trying. Lou Sander (talk) 18:32, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

PDF book creation

Have tried sevral times to create a book and each time it fails during pdf creation. Any idea as to why it keep happening?Rjdrescher (talk) 19:17, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Korean war vet

I need help please. My husband was a water purification specialist in Korea from 1976-1977. The Army did not provide any protective gear at all. His hands and feet were constantly in chemicals and the truck that pumped the water and chemicals was extremely loud and the Army did not provide protective hearing equipment either. Many times he had to sleep on the side of the truck to ensure it kept running. My husband now has EXTREME loss of nails and skin on both his feet and hands (I have pictures of skin literally hanging from his feet). The Army doctors say it is psoriatic arthritis which makes no sense to me when he doesn't have problems anywhere else. He has also been impotent since his service in Korea and also has severe hearing loss. When I try to look up which chemicals were used for the Army during 1976-1977 for water purification, all I come up with is Army enlistment sites. Can anyone please help to explain what dangers were associated with the chemicals used? I am providing both of our email addresses. If there are any science experts who could help explain or assist us, it would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckybrown1961 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

This is the Wikipedia Help desk where we help people use and edit Wikipedia. You may be able to find someone who can help answer your questions at the reference desk, but no one at Wikipedia can dispense medical advice. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:05, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Confused about merger vs redirect for duplicate stub

There are two articles that need to be merged:

• MyRA - This has more content and has been edited much more frequently and should stay.
• MyRA (Retirement Account) - This is the better title, but only has a handful of edits from almost a year ago. The content could be completely deleted.

I read Wikipedia:A10 but I don't think this applies because the 2nd page is not recently created. It's a stub that should just be deleted, but the title is the superior title. I'm confused as to the best course of action for what should be a noncontroversial merger/speedy deletion/redirect. Lugevas (talk) 21:22, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

The second title is not better as WP:Disambiguation is not required. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

So should I be bold and just delete the 2nd article? Lugevas (talk) 19:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

How do you add sub headings to the contents box ?

I`m trying to add sub headings to the contents box of the Battle of Britain (film) page and I can`t get it to work, The sections appear to be level 2 headlines and the sub sections level 3. In fact, when I edited the section the sub headings did actually appear correctly as intended in the contents box (i.e. 1 XXXX 1.1xxxx 1.2xxx 1.3xxx etc), but when I clicked save for the page the contents box did not include the sub headings.
I don`t understand it !--JustinSmith (talk) 22:29, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

the template {TOC limit|limit=2} is set to suppress them. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:32, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I`ve simply deleted that line and the full index now appears. I do wonder why anyone should want to suppress a full index in an encyclopedia ! ? !--JustinSmith (talk) 08:36, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't know why it was done here but some pages would get an impratically long table of contents if all subsections were shown. Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:TOC limit should include some better examples of use. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

January 8

Partner(s) vs. Domestic partner

Why does the |partner= option of Infobox person lead to Partner(s), while at Infobox officeholder it leads to Domestic partner? As a matter of fact, Chen Cui-fen was Sun Yat-sen's partner, but not necessarily his domestic partner. He was married thrice during their relationship. I believe that this needs to change.--The Theosophist (talk) 00:00, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Infoboxes are not designed for nuance. Article text is where nuance can be explained. Infobox are for quick snippets of highly relevant facts, and do not handle sui generis situations that require substantial explanation. Conciseness and comprehensiveness are antonyms. The infobox is designed for the former, the article itself is designed for the latter. There's no inherent need to force an infobox to do the job of the article text. --Jayron32 00:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jayron32: Let me ask the question differently: If Partner(s) works perfectly well with Infobox person, then why is it different at Infobox officeholder?--The Theosophist (talk) 04:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

There are hundreds of infoboxes made by different editors. It may not be a deliberate decision that the two should display differently. Many officeholders have a running mate, vice something, coalition partner or whatever which may sometimes be called partner so maybe somebody thought "Partner" alone was more likely to cause confusion for officeholders than other people. The whole parameter was added after Template talk:Infobox officeholder/Archive 4#Spouse and Domestic partner which didn't mention arguments or alternatives. It was implemented with other changes in [7]. New changes can be suggested at Template talk:Infobox officeholder and Template talk:Infobox person. Some infobox parameters have an optional second parameter to change the default displayed title, but it may be rejected if the situation is considered rare and not important. If you request it then you may have a better chance if you can suggest full working code. The two infoboxes are high use and can only be edited by administrators and template editors. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Family tree

Is there a more ″automated″ way to create a family tree than this forest of code which is the chart method?--The Theosophist (talk) 00:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Scroll to the bottom of that page. There is an extension you can install, but obviously read the security warnings on it before you use it. Other than that, Wikipedia was designed around text, the only reason we have charts is due to the hard work of other editors doing what they can with the resources available. Ease of use is generally beyond their control. - X201 (talk) 10:40, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Probably a good question for WP:WikiProject Genealogy. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:33, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

The Patten University logo is out of date and it needs to be updated. How would I go about uploading the new logo file and replacing the old logo?

The Patten University logo is out of date and it needs to be updated. How would I go about uploading the new logo file and replacing the old logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnowMarketing (talk • contribs) 00:54, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Misicuni Dam

Reference help requested. I am not sure why this "URL error" is coming up (Ref #1). I even tried the PDF version of the source with a different URL and I get the same error. Anyone have an idea?--NortyNort (Holla) 00:55, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

There are 2 url parameters in the citation, the 2nd is: |url=2075-8936  ~E, aka:71.20.250.51 (talk) 01:16, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

ah! Thanks!--NortyNort (Holla) 10:48, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

how do i reference on wikipeadia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MelbShakespeare (talk • contribs) 01:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:Referencing for beginners is a good place to start. Return here if you have questions, or try over at WP:Teahouse, "A friendly place to help new editors".  ~'E, aka:71.20.250.51 (talk) 01:44, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Steve griwowsky needs a lot of work. The help page linked from the error message should help. --  Gadget850 ^talk 01:55, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Source template?

Hey - is there a talk page template regarding users adding unsourced info/using non-reliable sources on pages? Thanks --The one that forgot (talk) 05:19, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

There is a plethora of talk page templates (here). This one looks like what you're looking for: Template:PleaseCite.  ~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 05:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

http://www.mitosyfraudes.org/Calen5/JawoCO2-Eng.html

has been maliciously changed by brandon stone , see marriage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.121.97.147 (talk) 09:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I assume that this is not about the Argentinian web page which you link to, but about the Wikipedia article Zbigniew Jaworowski, where you have deleted an unreferenced personal statement about the subject. Your deletion is in line with Wikipedia policy, so we thank you. Maproom (talk) 10:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

How I download the whatapp and we chat — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.164.116.86 (talk) 14:45, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Trouble with infoboxes

Can anyone explain why the infobox on this page doesn't seem to work? Zacwill16 (talk) 16:36, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Fixed by adding a missing ] in [8]. If a template call displays the source code then look for something unclosed. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. No wonder I missed something as small as that! Zacwill16 (talk) 16:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I didn't actually do it here but it can sometimes help to examine the page history to see when a problem started.[9] PrimeHunter (talk) 17:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Converting non-free logos to SVG

Could someone please explain to me how does, for the lack of a better, broad term, "legal stuff" work for copyrighted logos uploaded under fair use, and for vectorization of those?

To explain what I'm confused about to more detail: I noticed that several pages, such as, for example Superman Shield contain both a fair use rationale, that reasons that the picture provided is in low resolution, AND a template requesting that this picture be provided in SVG format. This seems contradictory to me, as a vector image would, by definition, be of perfect and easily reproducible quality. And so I'd like to know, if it's just an issue with wikimedia/wikimedia projects applying those request boxes where they don't belong, or would it actually be somehow considered legal to recreate the logo in a vector form and replace the picture?

89.74.93.135 (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't know the legal details but your example File:Superman shield.png is in Category:Fair use images that should be in SVG format which has an explanation and is clearly made deliberately. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:07, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I'd still prefer to see some more legal details though, since, for example, I don't know what would one even have to put in the "Low resolution" part of the rationale (if it's necessary). 89.74.93.135 (talk) 17:20, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

There may be some relevant discussion at Category talk:Fair use images that should be in SVG format and some of the pages at Special:WhatLinksHere/Category:Fair use images that should be in SVG format. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:37, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

i want to create my wikipedia

dear sir

i want to create my wikipedia page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.60.176.202 (talk) 17:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

You probably shouldn't create or directly edit an article about you because you have a conflict of interest. You can place a request at the requested article queue and it will help if you provide reliably published sources that help confirm that you meet the minimum criteria for an encyclopedia article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:41, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Medical advise given by RN contrary to MD

I go to a non profit clinic (Cherokee Nation)....are the RULES and guidelines the same as a for profit medical institution...i.e. RN dispensing medical advise without Nurse practitioner or Physicians Assistant certification? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.56.1.171 (talk) 17:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not give medical advice. The reference desk may be able to point you to sites that do. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:15, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Robert Hooks profile/bio page

Robert Hooks was not the first African-American dramatic lead on American television (N.Y.P.D.). He was preceded by Bill Cosby (I Spy). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.202.39.3 (talk) 18:05, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Don't quit your day job. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:17, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

links to other language Wikipedias

How do I add a link to the same article in another language Wikipedia. If I click 'language' I get a dialog box that says "You need to be logged in". But I am logged in and do not know what to do. Particular question: I created the article Andrej Bauer in English WP. How do I get the 'Languages' link to include the Slovenian version Andrej Bauer and vice-versa? You can respond on my Talk Page--Foobarnix (talk) 18:12, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

We generally don't link cross wiki. The information at WP:WIKIDATA may provide more insight. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:16, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I went ahead and linked them to make sure I understood the setup. Now linked together at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12784531 (not sure how to show a wikidata page as a shorter internal link.)Naraht (talk) 18:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

You can code that as [[d:Q12784531]], which displays as d:Q12784531, Naraht. --ColinFine (talk) 20:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Request to change a picture

To whom it may concern, The photo of the man provided for Steven Johnson Syndrome is a photo of my brother. He is currently facing this sickness. He does not want anyone to see him like this.

We would be very grateful if the picture could be changed or removed. We are going through a tough time and your help will be much appreciated.

Thank You in Advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.179.9.20 (talk) 18:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I have commented out the image temporarily until there can be a discussion that determines use of the image is appropriate. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Content on a website I manage was deleted

Hello- the content on a website I manage was deleted and I am not sure why? Can you please assist? The page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_for_Haiti

Also, I had emailed permissions-en@wikimedia.org about a copyright protection for a photo and never heard back, how should I proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morazio (talk • contribs) 19:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

You have a conflict of interest and should not be directly editing the article or any content about your organization. Please make suggestions on the article talk page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

The content you added was deleted because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and covers what third parties have found notable about the subject. It is not a free webhost for your organization to clone its website on Wikipedia's servers. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Morazio, I'm sorry you're having a tough time on Wikipedia, but unfortunately you're trying to use it as something it is not, viz. a way of promoting your organisation.. It may help if you understand that you do not manage the article Hope for Haiti: almost anybody in the world may edit it, as long as they do so in accordance with Wikipedia's policies; but you are one of the few people who should not edit it, as TRPoD explained above.

As for tho photo, I'm afraid I can't help, as I'm not one of the people who see that email address. Perhaps now I've mentioned it, somebody else will notice your second question and reply. --ColinFine (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Getting results of a change proposal - what now?

I have suggested a style change on Talk:City of Adelaide (1864). This proposal went out less than 24 hours ago. I have got 7 answers all supporting my proposal. There is no opposition.
At what point is it appropriate to decide that I have a consensus answer?
What is the usual way of closing off the request for opinions? (Clearly, after that, I would need to settle down to a lengthy editing session.)
Thanks, ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 20:04, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

How do I create the box on teh left with photo and date of birth

How do I create the box on teh left with photo and date of birth...etc. I am brand new and having problems creating a simple yet nice page.

Jodi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Marshall California (talk • contribs) 20:05, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

If you mean the infobox on the right side of many pages, see WP:INFOBOX. Dismas|^(talk) 20:23, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

How/where can I seek input on how topics are discussed in articles?

So I'm feeling a little overwhelmed. If I have an issue with how a topic is discussed in an article or set of articles, and I'm looking for a conversation to resolve it, how and where do I start the conversation? If it's helpful to know, I'm specifically looking at articles on the legality of euthanasia (like Euthanasia in the United States) and how they discuss assisted suicide, which I feel is a confusion of topics. — Athelwulf ^[T]/_[C] 22:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)