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Göbekli Tepe section paragraph - copyright infringement?

Hi Diannaa - please could you specify the exact instance of my alleged copyright infringement you are referring to?InfoSaw (talk) 17:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view what the bot found.— Diannaa (talk) 19:01, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

I've reviewed the report. It links to a web blog that I've never seen or read before. The relevant blog post is one that cites the abstract to the article that I cited to in my (attempted) addition to the wiki page in question. It shows that 71% of the words I typed corresponds to the abstract. I don't see how the content of what I wrote constitutes copyright infringement. The article is common access, and I cited to it as best that I could. In no place do I fail to attribute my work as someone else's. Following Wiki editor Joe Roe's suggestions to revise my initial post, I revised my initial post according to his views to read as follows:

"In a 2017 peer-reviewed archaeology journal, Martin Sweatman and Dimitrios Tsikritsis interpreted much of the symbolism of Göbekli Tepe in terms of astronomical events. Working from the evidence known to date, Sweatman and Tsikristis posited that Göbekli Tepe likely operated as an observatory. Some call Sweatman and Tsikritsis' interpretation a fringe theory, though it has not been discredited in any other peer-reviewed journal article."

For comparison purposes, I have quoted the entire article's abstract as follows:

"We have interpreted much of the symbolism of Göbekli Tepe in terms of astronomical events. By matching low-relief carvings on some of the pillars at Göbekli Tepe to star asterisms we findcompelling evidencethat the famous ‘Vulture Stone’ is adate stamp for 10950 BC ± 250 yrs, which corresponds closely to the proposed Younger Dryas event, estimated at 10890 BC. We also find evidence that a key function of Göbekli Tepe was to observe meteor showers and record cometary encounters. Indeed, the people of Göbekli Tepe appear to have had a special interest in the Taurid meteor stream, the same meteor stream that is proposed as responsible for the Younger-Dryas event. Is Göbekli Tepe the ‘smoking gun’ for the Younger-Dryas cometary encounter, and hence for coherent catastrophism?"

In your professional opinion, does what I have written constitute copyright violation?

To be clear, I have not attempted to infringe upon copyrighted material, nor attempted to plagiarize another person's work and pass it off as my own. I am surprised by this allegation and, to be honest, taken aback - this is a very serious allegation. I accordingly take this allegation seriously. Accordingly, I would also like to know who flagged what I wrote as copyright infringement.InfoSaw (talk) 13:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

It frequently happens that material is often copied to multiple places online such as blogs. The log entry shows I found the content at http://maajournal.com/Issues/2017/Vol17-1/Sweatman%20and%20Tsikritsis%2017%281%29.pdf, which is a match for the paper you cited. I did not actually remove the content - that was done by someone else. I did revision deletion of your edit at 14:29, October 27, 2020, which was very close to an exact duplicate of the abstract. I did not touch the other two times you added text, because they were both okay from a copyright point of view. Those two edits were however removed by other people for reasons other than copyright. Comparison is as follows (overlapping material is shown in bold):

Martin Sweatman and Dimitrios Tsikritsis have interpreted much of the symbolism of Göbekli Tepe in terms of astronomical events. By matching low-relief carvings on some of the pillars at Göbekli Tepe to star asterisms, they found evidence that the 'Vulture Stone' is a date stamp for 10950 BCE ± 250 years, which corresponds closely to the Younger-Dryas event, estimated to have occurred around 10890 BCE. Sweatman and Tsikristis also found evidence that a key function of Göbekli Tepe was to act as an observatory. The authors reason from the evidence available to date that the people of Göbekli Tepe were interested in the Taurid meteor stream, the same meteor stream that is proposed as resonsible for the Younger-Dryas event.

Source paper says:

We have interpreted much of the symbolism of Göbekli Tepe in terms of astronomical events. By matching low-relief carvings on some of the pillars at Göbekli Tepe to star asterisms we find compelling evidence that the famous ‘Vulture Stone’ is a date stamp for 10950 BC ± 250 yrs, which corresponds closely to the proposed Younger Dryas event, estimated at 10890 BC. We also find evidence that a key function of Göbekli Tepe was to observe meteor showers and record cometary encounters. Indeed, the people of Göbekli Tepe appear to have had a special interest in the Taurid meteor stream, the same meteor stream that is proposed as responsible for the Younger-Dryas event. Is Göbekli Tepe the ‘smoking gun’ for the Younger-Dryas cometary encounter, and hence for coherent catastrophism?

— Diannaa (talk) 14:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Hi. To repeat your points made: the original post I wrote was flagged - by an unknown person you have not identified, though I did ask to know - for alleged copyright violation. This is the first post which I put up in good faith, cited to the original source (an article abstract from a peer-reviewed journal), and which was then removed by Wiki editor Joe Roe and told by him that I should revise it as follows:

Revision as of 14:31, 27 October 2020 (edit) (thank) Joe Roe (talk | contribs)(Undid revision 985711805 by InfoSaw (talk) See Talk: Göbekli_Tepe/Archive_3#Sweatman_and_Tsikritsis_2017. Perhaps this paper can be mentioned (briefly) in the article, but it should be contextualised as the very, very fringe theory it is, not fact.)

I took Joe Roe's suggestions at face value and adhered to them both in letter and spirit, as I've set out above. Further, I have now learned that you (Dianaa) also performed a revision deletion of my original post as of 14:29, 27 October 2020. As you said above:

"I did revision deletion of your edit at 14:29, October 27, 2020, which was very close to an exact duplicate of the abstract. I did not touch the other two times you added text, because they were both okay from a copyright point of view. Those two edits were however removed by other people for reasons other than copyright."

The two edits you refer to here took place after Joe Roe's revision deletion and are the the two edits removed by other people for reasons other than copyright.

In short, the alleged copyright violation was flagged after all of this took place.

To summarize all of the facts above, the anonymous allegation against me concerns a post I made that twice received a revision deletion (first, as you have set out here but of which I was previously unaware, at 14:29 on 27 October 2020 by Wiki editor Dianaa; then second at 14:31 on 27 October 2020 by Wiki editor Joe Roe). I revised my original post consistent with Wiki editor Joe Roe's explicit instructions. I was then engaged with by at least three other people, as well as Joe Roe, on the content of my revisions to the original post on the relevant Talk page. I discussed with these individuals in a reasonable way to achieve a reasonable outcome consistent with Wikipedia's public standards. So, to be clear, the copyright allegation was made after I had made my revision, engaged in discussion with others in the appropriate forum and in an appropriate way - that is to say, I was polite, open-minded and informed to the best of my ability, respectful, and used a good tone of voice. Unless I am mistaken, you have not identified the person who made the allegation against me, though I have made the reasonable request to know the name of this person.

Would you say that my summary of the facts is fair and accurate? I have tried to organize the facts as best I can, but if there is a fact that I am missing or that I have not yet seen before, please let me know.InfoSaw (talk) 15:45, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Your addition was flagged by a bot (not by a person) as a potential copyright issue. The revision that was flagged was posted by you at 14:29 on October 27, 2020 and would have been added to the CopyPatrol queue pretty much immediately. Joe Roe removed the addition two minutes later for reasons other than copyright. Joe Roe did not perform revision deletion on the edit and does not work on the CopyPatrol queue as far as I know. I assessed the edit at 15:33 the following day while working on the CopyPatrol queue and did the revision deletion at that time. So to sum up, there is no person who noticed/reported the copyright violation; the problem was detected by our CopyPatrol bot. The edit was almost immediately removed by Joe Roe for reasons other than copyright, and I did the revision deletion the following day when I was working my way through the CopyPatrol cases.— Diannaa (talk)

Hello. If I understand you correctly, you say that the allegation of copyright violation has nothing to do Joe Roe, yourself, or any other living person. The allegation only has to do with the bot that has acted autonomously and without direction from any employee at Wikipedia. Just to be clear, you first said that,

"I did revision deletion of your edit at 14:29, October 27, 2020, which was very close to an exact duplicate of the abstract. I did not touch the other two times you added text, because they were both okay from a copyright point of view. Those two edits were however removed by other people for reasons other than copyright."

To be very clear, you have since clarified that (and apology for repeating you in full, but your full statement is relevant for the new information and context it provides):

"The revision that was flagged was posted by you at 14:29 on October 27, 2020 and would have been added to the CopyPatrol queue pretty much immediately. Joe Roe removed the addition two minutes later for reasons other than copyright. Joe Roe did not perform revision deletion on the edit and does not work on the CopyPatrol queue as far as I know. I assessed the edit at 15:33 the following day while working on the CopyPatrol queue and did the revision deletion at that time. So to sum up, there is no person who noticed/reported the copyright violation; the problem was detected by our CopyPatrol bot. The edit was almost immediately removed by Joe Roe for reasons other than copyright, and I did the revision deletion the following day when I was working my way through the CopyPatrol cases."

Sum total, are you now saying that there was no actual instance of copyright violation? If so, then we are in agreement. And I politely request that I receive an unconditional retraction of the allegation of copyright violation in writing from you or the person with authority to make such retractions in CopyPatrol cases. Such a retraction means that you must also revert the relevant public logs to remove references to copyright violation since, to the public, it appears that I have committed copyright violation even when it is clear, as I have established above, that this was and is not the case.InfoSaw (talk) 19:24, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I did not say that there was no copyright violation. I said that when I discovered that the edit of 14:29, October 27, 2020 was in violation of our copyright policy, I performed revision deletion on that one edit.— Diannaa (talk) 20:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

You may be under the mistaken impression that we are obligated to only remove copyright violations when a complaint is received by Wikimedia staff from a copyright holder. That is not the case. In fact such takedown requests are not very common. Almost all the copyright cleanup is done by volunteer editors such as myself, on our own initiative.— Diannaa (talk) 21:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Greetings. Without a retraction on your part, I must be honest. I find this entire thread shows a disingenuous series of responses on your part. You consistently shifted your position when I have shown that your arguments are inconsistent or untenable. You have not responded to my specific and relevant questions. You have relied on your more powerful position to make assertions that have little to no basis in fact. You have introduced new information when it benefits your position - without explaining why you didn't provide this information up front. Your most recent answer, makes my last point clear:

"You may be under the mistaken impression that we are obligated to only remove copyright violations when a complaint is received by Wikimedia staff from a copyright holder. That is not the case..."

If I have consistently been working under this "mistaken impression", then why did it take you so long to point that out to me? The simple answer is that I have not committed any copyright violation (including Wikipedia's expansive definition that includes plagiarizing others' work). I stand by what I have written and how I have acted in all of my interactions with you and the other Wiki editors; I have followed the rules to the best of my abilities and done so in good faith; and I have showed courtesy and good humour despite some strong language used by senior Wiki editors. To close off my end of this thread, I ask a rhetorical question, but one that goes to the heart of the matter: Is how I have been treated representative of how Wikipedia treats its long time users (and supporters)? InfoSaw (talk) 15:56, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Revdel needed on Kambojas article

User:Adsmohali apparently copied a cited source directly into Kambojas. I've removed the copyvio from the article, but it still exists in the history. Thanks--Quisqualis (talk) 19:03, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Quisqualis. The material you removed was copied from Shudra, not from an external website. Revision deletion is not needed. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 21:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion

You said a page I created was gotten from http://aceondo.edu.ng/History but I Don't know the site just seeing it for the first, please do something. Chigozie mbam (talk) 19:46, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

The material exists at several locations online, not just the one I mentioned. Here is another one. — Diannaa (talk) 21:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Poets Roundtable of Arkansas

Hi, what was the problem with this? Pkeets (talk) 13:06, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view what the bot found.— Diannaa (talk) 13:10, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

SMAUG article copyright issue

Hello Diannaa, I did cite the original source as a reference (not the same one you quoted), please see: [1]. I can modify the text if needed, but it is used with permission. --Thoric (talk) 18:06, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

We need to have documentation that shows the copyright holders have given permission for the material to be copied to this website. Wikipedia has procedures in place for this purpose. Please see WP:Requesting copyright permission for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent.— Diannaa (talk) 19:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

October harvest

thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely photo. :) — Diannaa (talk) 12:00, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Ref formats

Hi. Just have a question about ref formats. At Larung Gar, the most recent ref formats remove info from refs when displayed in the pop-ups. Dates and/or authors and/or publication names aren't displaying. Wondering if instead of refill2 there's another formatting option which doesn't delete ref info. And, if it's not a problem, I'd like to revert the changes, but don't fully understand why just some were formatted. Thanks. Pasdecomplot (talk) 23:10, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

I am not sure why you are having issues with popups - they are all working nicely for me. If you can tell me some specific popups that are not working, I will have a look. A few dates were removed because they did not appear on the source webpage. I have gone back and made a few more manual changes and additions. It's better if you don't undo the formatting, since the citations are now correctly formatted. For example the titles of articles do not get italics, they get quotation marks. And bare urls should not be visible in your finished product. Using citation templates has other advantages. For example because they are machine readable, certain maintenance tasks such as fixing dead links can be done automatically using scripts. Of course you are free to undo these improvements if you wish, but I don't recommend it.— Diannaa (talk) 11:54, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Henry S. White

I figured it out, and did it adding the public domain to the place where I got most of the stuff from. Just curious do you know how to link to the middle of a Wikipedia page for his medical school I want to go to the history of Colombia medical school when it was called college of physicians and surgeons Thanks Bigmike2346 (talk) 16:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Bigmike2346, where exactly did you copy-paste the material from? I found it in Memorial Cyclopedia of New Jersey Volume 4. This book is not listed in your bibliography. The link shows a publication date of 1927 but this scan shows it was actually published in 1921. (The current cut-off is 1925.) So I will fix this up in a minute here. Sorry for the mistake.

Regarding your linking question, it's possible to link to a section of an article. But I think White may have attended Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons? If you want to link to a section of an article, it's done line this: [[Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons#Merger with the College of Physicians and Surgeons]] or [[Columbia University Vagelos College of Physicians and Surgeons#Merger with the College of Physicians and Surgeons|College of Physicians and Surgeons]]— Diannaa (talk) 16:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

The New Jersey Coast in Three Centuries: History of the New Jersey Coast with Genealogical and Historic-biographical Appendix, Volume 2. 1902. That is where I got it all from

Cool cool cool. That one is also PD.— Diannaa (talk) 16:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

WP:PROMOTION?

I would like your opinion regarding WP:PROMOTION on recent edits at Amy Shark (see also the discussion of those edits at its talkpage). Two users are adding material citing a website, Wall of Sound, which is owned, edited and written by Paul "Browny" Brown.

@Brownypaul87: has acknowledged their connection to Wall of Sound, as being a writer for them, on their user page. They have not indicated whether they are a paid contributor. I see from Brownypaul87's talkpage that the user attempted to create a wp article about Paul "Browny" Brown but it was declined back in 2017 due to lack of independent reliable sources. The draft lapsed in the following year. I noticed that almost all of that user's edits at wp are adding a reference from Wall of Sound which gives its author as brownypaul. I believe this is using wp to promote their website, the discussion at Amy Shark's talkpage verifies this.

@106.71.249.83: has also edited Amy Shark and returned material originally written by the first user after I had deleted it. Now that second user is adding new material, but again using Wall of Sound and identifying brownypaul as the author at that website.

Both users have been asked not to put Wall of Sound information on that article. Both have continued to do so. I asked User:Primefac for their opinion but they appear to be busy with other activities (understably). Could you have a look at this situation and tell me your opinion?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 20:14, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

This will havew to wait - I am too tired. I might do it tomorrow.— Diannaa (talk) 20:42, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

No drama.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:15, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Any update?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Brownypaul87 says here that they are adding citations to the Wall of Sound website as a way to build creditbility for their website, so that's using Wikipedia as a means of advertising. So that's not okay in my opinion. Both the named account and the IP have stopped editing, at least for now— Diannaa (talk) 12:10, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your analysis and your support. What do I do now? Should I only revert those edits at Amy Shark and leave the rest to others? Or does this need to be addressed elsewhere?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:20, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

I think the best place to report this is at the conflict of interest noticeboard. Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard— Diannaa (talk) 11:18, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright problem

Hi,I have got your notice,can I edit the content in the meantime i.e. someone keep putting copyright violation message in every article I created before,Thank youꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 01:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Please follow the instructions on your user talk page as to how to proceed.— Diannaa (talk) 16:38, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the info Diannaa also kindly review these pages Khagemba Loiyumba all these pages are tagged as copyright violation by ChunnuBhai.I have updated both page but there is still copyvio notice.ꯂꯨꯋꯥꯡ (ꯆꯥ) 12:52, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

The pages are listed at WP:CP and someone will get to them soon. I don't have time right at the moment. Sorry,— Diannaa (talk) 13:04, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Martimc123

Hi there Diannaa, from Portugal,

i don't know if it was you that performed the block on the latest account, User:TiredAsF12. But for the record, i have received a message in my talk in which the person does not seem happy about what i did. Also, from previous conversations and some edits, seems they are really trying to work in a positive way (sources, MOS, etc). Can you please unblock/ask that block is lifted?

If not, think nothing of this message and sorry for any inconvenience --Quite A Character (talk) 23:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

• Apologies, just noted it was :@AmandaNP: that performed the block. Pinged her, so that she can comment at will if she sees it fit. --Quite A Character (talk) 23:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Quite A Character: No. This user has been abusing multiple accounts since 2015 and this is the 27th investigation into them breaking the rules. They need to use their original account and use the standard offer at minimum, then ask for unblock on their original account. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 00:21, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I see, thank you for your time. --Quite A Character (talk) 01:01, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Copvio text in the The Castelles

Hi Diannaa, I've removed the copvio text in the The Castelles, copied from The Castelles By Marv Goldberg, leaving almost nothing of the article. I suppose this is a revdel case. Carlstak (talk) 05:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I am not going to do revision deletion, because checking the page history I find that the author of the source webpage confirmed via email that he was the author. This happened in 2005, prior to the creation of the OTRS system. See Talk:The Mello-Moods— Diannaa (talk) 12:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Diannaa. I've restored the content, rewrote parts of it to fix unencyclopedic tone, and removed non-NPOV text. Sorry for misspelling your name; it was late here when I wrote that. Best, Carlstak (talk) 14:04, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Martimc123 (2)

Im triyng to get my accoount unblocked but the problem is that i can access it because its globally locked, by tried to unblock it through this website https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/public/appeal/view?hash=7e8e60925c19d6eb1c8943c17eec8338 on the unblock page that the other user showed, so at least can you help me.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.223.249.9 (talk) 14:27, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

This is a checkuser block. Ordinary admins are not allowed to unblock checkuser blocks.— Diannaa (talk) 14:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Martimc123 (3)

Im triyng to contact the User:AmandaNP, but im finding it difficult, could u help me contact her in order for her to see my appeal in the unbloking ticket system, please.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.223.249.9 (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but you are not going to get unblocked, as seen in Yamla's reasoning in the UTRS ticket.— Diannaa (talk) 19:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Amanda has already said no as well. See User talk:Diannaa#User:Martimc123. In addition, you were creating sock accounts as recently as yesterday. So no.— Diannaa (talk) 20:15, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Removal of Turtle Creed

Hello, New Here. I had included the Turtle Creed I found from my fathers collection (Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles). I typed it word for word off of the card he had in his possession. Do I need to scan and post the card for there to be a verifiable reference? I can do that, but before I go and retype everything, I figure I should ask the opinion of the Admin who removed the content first, lest it be removed again. Thank you Generiatric (talk) 16:43, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I found a source online.— Diannaa (talk) 19:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright status of family tree graphic

Someone uploaded File:WoldNewton.gif and I find that interesting. The image itself explicitly notes it is copyrighted and the uploader notes the copyright status in the description. But then subsequently claims the image is ineligible for copyright. I'm legitimately unsure in this case. In my opinion, there's a decent chance the uploader is correct; not withstanding the copyright notice, this might not be eligible for copyright. On the other hand, it took some effort for someone to diagram everything out, and that effort is fixed in the resulting image. It's not just a presentation of facts. What is your opinion here? --Yamla (talk) 20:26, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

It's not just an alphabetical or chronological listing of facts. The data could be arranged/organized in more than one way. The source document is marked as copyright. I think it is creative enough to enjoy copyright protection.— Diannaa (talk) 20:38, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate the reasoning. --Yamla (talk) 20:46, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Not providing a legal opinion, but Diannaa's reasoning is correct in my U.S.-centric view.

The amusing semi-official "rule of thumb" (re: the notion that this idiom glorifies domestic violence, I've always understood it to mean that the first joint of one's thumb is generally about an inch long and may thus be used as an emergency "ruler" in non-metric-land) under U.S. law, for those of us of an era in which we used those crazy "phone book" things, is that White Pages aren't copyrightable (because it's a mere alphabetic catalogue of names and phone numbers), but Yellow Pages are (because there's subject-based organization and headings, and somebody had to make all of those editorial choices). - Julietdeltalima (talk) 21:11, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Excellent. I knew the whitepages reasoning but I'm not sure I had heard the yellowpages counterpoint. That's really useful and directly applies here! --Yamla (talk) 21:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Removal of Plot for Fruit Of Paradise (1970).

Hi, I saw that you had deleted what I posted and left me a message on my talk page. I just wanted to apologize because I had no idea that I wasn't following Wikipedia's guidelines by doing this, and I promise that my intention wasn't trying to infringe on any copyrighted material either... more or less also plagiarize what someone else wrote. I honestly am not familiar with all of the rules so again, I apologize. However I have a question: Is it okay for me to repost the synopsis if I re-write it in my own words this time? Thanks for understanding. Also thank you for your contributions on the Nazism/WWII wiki articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Owennoreen (talk • contribs) 23:48, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Writing a synopsis in your own words is a good idea.— Diannaa (talk) 12:11, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I did put the following comment on the Talk page: I have added a "history" section with a view to merging Reading education in the United States with Learning to read. I Have attempted to use as much of the good material and references as possible from Reading education in the United States. I realize a great deal of work has gone into the Reading education in the United States article. In the future I will also mention it in the Edit line. Good point.John NH (talk) 17:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Stanbrook Abbey and the more citations needed template

Thank you for the copyright warning as regards the Stanbrook Abbey page. I think that I understand this. However, I have some feedback as regards the {{more citations needed}} template that you also posted. The problem that I have with this is, that for a fairly lengthy article it is no help in identifying where the defects are -especially since I thought that I was citing fairly faithfully. I suspect, without certainty, that the issue lies in my architectural description which I have hence just deleted. I've had this header template as a response on other pages that I've edited, and I've found it unhelpful. As it is, I'm now retiring from editing and have added {{retired}} to my user page, because I'm tired of playing guessing games in this matter.Shubimperatrix (talk) 16:33, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Actually I thought it was pretty obvious which parts needed citations - from the North Range section down to the bottom of the article. Sorry to hear you are leaving.— Diannaa (talk) 16:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Removal of material from the James Martin SJ page

Hello Diannaa, thank you for your message! I am hoping you can provide some specific examples from what was removed from the James Martin (priest, born 1960) page as to how I can better format this information in a way that does not conflict with copyright. I produced the material included without copying anything directly; however I understand that when listing biographical info or events it can be difficult to avoid close paraphrasing while maintaining accuracy. Would citing the bio referenced in the undo action be sufficient to remove any copyright concerns? Specific examples would be very helpful as there were several sections included in my edit. Thank you! Antiphar (talk) 19:17, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view what the bot found. Quite a bit was copied directly and was not reworded whatsoever. So it needs a complete re-write. I do know paraphrasing biographical/chronological events is difficult but I also know it is not impossible.— Diannaa (talk) 19:24, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Misunderstanding about copyright - please undo your change

Hello Diannaa, I appreciate your well-meaning concern about copyright violation on the Ida Rolf biography page. However, you've got the situation backwards. This is text that was previously included in this page, and it got "lifted" by other websites which is a common practice with wikipedia articles. So this article is the original source. I disagreed with the removal (August 12) of this well-sourced biographical info so I added it back in (but with some edits for brevity). I see that you have used some sort of clever tool to hide the version of the page that includes my edit. Would you please reverse this, as well as restoring the 3 edits that another editor made after me? Otherwise I can dig back to August when the article still contained this long-standing information but frankly I already did that work and it would be lovely to be able to do this the easy way. Thanks in advance.--Karinpower (talk) 02:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Diannaa (talk) 13:32, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

retrieving deletions to add quotation marks

User talk:Infinitepeace#Wikipedia and copyright — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinitepeace (talk • contribs) 07:04, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Diannaa (talk) 13:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Edits on Sambandam

Hi Diannaa , I saw you edited the information on Sambandam ( 7th November 2020) . The information you reverted have orginal source and references both sambandam and sambandam in nair ceremonies and customes are same and same knowledge why you revert the edits , please please add the information you had reverted it's a request , thank you HelenaBetany (talk) 13:40, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright Issue

Hello Diannaa, I appreciate your kind reminder about a copyright violation on the K. J. Ray Liu biography page. I made some edits on Nov 7 (using IP 73.xxx) and I found they were removed on Nov. 8 due to the copyright issue. Actually, I am the manager of the source page (http://www.cspl.umd.edu/kjrliu/index.html). So I have donated the copyrighted material by putting the permission explicitly on the site. Since the permission has been granted, could you please reverse the article back to the version on Nov. 7? As the current contents of this article are incomplete and erroneous, we need to update them. Thanks in advance! --YYY66 (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you, — Diannaa (talk) 19:41, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Edit on 3rd Cavalry Regiment (India)

The update on the article is been sourced from multiple sources. The matter has been primarily taken from http://www.indianpost.com/viewstamp.php/Alpha/3RD%20CAVALRY which is in the public domain and from the information posted by the Regiment during the commemorative postal stamp release from 08/02/1989. Thanks. (User:Akk7a)

indianpost.com does not have a copyright notice but that does not mean it is not protected by copyright. Under current copyright law, literary works are subject to copyright whether they are tagged as such or not. No registration is required, and no copyright notice is required. So please always assume that all material you find online is copyright. — Diannaa (talk) 11:48, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Re: Copying licensed material requires attribution

Thanks for reminding me about this. I did have {{OGL-attribution}} in at the bottom when I was drafting it, but considered that it would be best attributing to multiple sources for completeness, but as the template only handles one I was going to edit it to handle multiple entries and come back and put it in. I didn't think about adding the attribution to the reference, but as it's only a government licence it's really not a big deal, no matter what we might like to think. ninety:one (reply on my talk) 10:25, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Please add the required attribution anytime you copy from compatibly licensed sources. If you don't add the required attribution, it's Wikipedia:Plagiarism. Thank you,— Diannaa (talk) 11:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

emailing deletions so I can add quotes

Hello dianna 👋

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Infinitepeace#Wikipedia_and_copyright

Infinitepeace (talk) 12:45, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

William J. Fleniken

What was the problem with my article? Bigmike2346 (talk) 22:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

It was identical to an article that had been deleted as part of copyright cleanup of articles created by user:Billy Hathorn. The article was listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2020 May 28 and was deleted on June 5. It's not okay to re-post these articles that are presumptively deleted as part of a massive copyright investigation.— Diannaa (talk) 22:32, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

2.87.93.145

Can user: 2.87.93.145 please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 12:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Misunderstanding about Lilt, Inc. page

Hi! I think there was a misunderstanding about the page I was creating for Lilt, Inc. It's my first time creating a page, and I thought that having it as a draft meant that it didn't need to be completed. I was still working on editing and referencing the content and fully intended on having no copyright issues when I sent it in for review! I'd really appreciate it if you could un-delete it so I can continue working! Lmk if there's a better way I should be creating pages. FateemahF (talk) 19:37, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright content is not allowed on Wikipedia, not even temporarily in sandboxes or drafts. Please make sure any content you add to Wikipedia follows our copyright policy right from the start. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 14:39, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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Copyright content on NDC-R

Hi Dianna, I was wondering if you could look at my edits on the page about NDC-R to see if they better paraphrased than before? Wowzers122 (talk) 00:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

I have done some further clean-up.— Diannaa (talk) 13:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Rv of edit by User:Mikunu1289

Hi Diannaa! I have reverted[2] another edit by User:Mikunu1289 for copyvios, but could not add the URLs in the edit summary because one of them is apparently blacklisted. How can I circumvent this for the sake of documentation of the copyvio? –Austronesier (talk) 14:23, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Austronesier I can't find the source. Please drop the http prefix, that usually works. Post it here please, and I will look at it immediately. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 14:28, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Here they are (both sources were used verbatim in the deleted paragraph):

1. //www.jainsamaj.org/content.php?url=Religion_Historical_Geography_By_Mr_Anand_Chandra_Sahoo
2. //www.indianetzone.com/47/utkalas.htm

–Austronesier (talk) 14:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Revision deletion complete. I have listed these clipped urls in the log entry for the revision deletion so that we have an audit trail as it were. Thanks for your interest in helping with copyright cleanup. — Diannaa (talk) 14:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Just a few hours after your warning and our exchange here, the user made this edit[3] which reproduces the abstract of this paper[4] verbatim. –Austronesier (talk) 14:42, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup complete. Thank you for the alert.— Diannaa (talk) 15:08, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

AN discussion

Someone started an AN thread about one of your RD1 actions. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard § Reversal of revdel. Primefac (talk) 16:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!— Diannaa (talk) 19:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Enchanted Forest (Oregon) Could I at least get access to what I did write?

So I spend many hours working on this and you completely wipe it out. I can't even access it now to make changes. You couldn't just flag it until I had a chance to finish?? I can no longer view any of the work that I spent hours on. Unavailable. I put this time in to try to help out a business that is flat out struggling and may go under. Trying to help spread the word of what they are going through. I would say 75% of what I typed was in my own words. I ran out of steam and couldn't finish it all that day. The left over was filler until I had a chance to redo. Thanks for the thanks......— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.209.53 (talk • contribs)

The content I removed was largely copied from their website (history and attractions). The purpose of Wikipedia is not to advertise or to help struggling businesses - it's an online encyclopedia. A lot of the content you added (an extensive biography of the non-notable founder, detailed descriptions of the rides and attractions) is not really suitable for inclusion regardless of its copyright status. I can send you a copy of the material via email, but first you will have to create an account and activate email access. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 20:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Literally just trying to add detail to the page. And you say it is too detailed. Have you ever looked at the Disneyland page?? I actually have an account. Just didn't happen to be logged in. Thanks for wasting my time.

I'm unsure of whether or not to tag this draft for speedy deletion.

Draft:Young Democrats of Massachusetts has a massive copyright violation (Earwig detected 88%). However, a small portion of the page is not copyrighted. Should I remove the copyrighted content, or tag the draft for speedy deletion? I'm asking because I've never tagged a page for speedy deletion under the G12 criterion before. I also don't want to bite any newcomers. Is it okay if you take a look? Thank you. Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:22, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

If there are no revisions in the history that contain absolutely no copyvio material and no way to excise the material without essentially rewriting the article wholesale, G12 is appropriate. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 21:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I just tagged it under the G12 criterion. I hope I did the right thing. Thank you for your help. Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:31, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

The only part that's not copied is the list of executives, so tagging as G12 is the correct course in my opinion. The list of executives can be easily re-added if the editor wishes to start over with a copyright compliant version.— Diannaa (talk) 22:03, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your timely response. However, he contested the deletion. He claims that the content isn't actually copyrighted. However, the bottom of the webpage says that it is copyrighted. Forgive me if I'm overthinking things. Scorpions13256 (talk) 22:09, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

If the contesting rationale is bogus, it's not going to affect the deletion. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 22:18, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright query on an article

Would it be possible for you to take a look at Michael O'Flanagan‎ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and see what action needs to be taken please? The article contains a substantial amount of quotations, seemingly all added by the same editor. While there are some quotations (such as the one at Michael O'Flanagan#Gaelic League Envoy which is an excerpt from a letter he wrote in 1914) which might be ok, there are others (such as the one in the section below at Michael O'Flanagan#Cliffoney, which is a copy and paste from the 2015 book Crossing Highbridge: A Memoir of Irish America by Maureen Waters) which are obviously problematic. Thank you. FDW777 (talk) 16:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

The number and length of quotations is definitely excessive. I don't have time to clean it right now though. — Diannaa (talk) 21:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I tagged the article for excessive quotations, and his response was three minutes later to add some more. :/ So I made time to do the clean-up. Tired now, — Diannaa (talk) 22:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your hard work! I'll keep an eye on things going forwards. FDW777 (talk) 23:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Referencing for Draft:Ho Yinsen

Hi Diannaa, I appreciate you letting me know that I needed to reference Ho Yinsen for Draft:Ho Yinsen. I've linked them now, if there's anything else I should do to my article let me know. — dan_dk7 (talk) 16:11, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

It is highly unlikely that the draft will be accepted for publication. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ho Yinsen — Diannaa (talk) 20:48, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Sigma Kappa edits

Hello Diannaa -

I logged in this morning to see that some of my edits to the Sigma Kappa article were not only reverted, but hidden. I suspect that my work got caught up in your effort to clean up some problematic content from a user called Damatr1 (I specifically am not linking to them here).

My edits were routine, providing references and clearing the citation needed tags. I added several contextual items from standard, cited references used by the Fraternities and Sororities Project. Nor did I (or would I) offer protected information such as the "secrets" that fraternities and sororities keep as private. I left the article's previous links to the Sigma Kappa homepage, and simply added my own, which were outside of their copyrighted content.But because the items you deleted are now hidden, I cannot even attempt to discover what was wrong.

Would you please explain where my contributions were in error? Thank you for your attention to this request. Jax MN (talk) 17:51, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello @Jax MN: There was nothing wrong with your edits, and none of them were removed or altered as far as I can tell. Please check this diff to review. Revision deletion was done because of the removal of copyright content added by another editor. In order to completely remove the material from the page history, all the intervening edits have to be hidden, from the time of insertion of the copyright material to its removal. This means that in many instances, harmless edits (such as yours) have to be hidden.— Diannaa (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is This was not an attack page. Thank you. The IP thread starter did not notify you unfortunately. Nil Einne (talk) 18:32, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you,— Diannaa (talk) 20:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep (organization) also

I just saw your revdel for copyvio on Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep. The editor added the same content to Now I Lay Me Down to Sleep (organization) so should be hidden there as well. Thanks! Schazjmd (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Done, thank you for letting me know.— Diannaa (talk) 20:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Copyright problem: Sergey Akhromeyev

This is regarding the Investigation of potential copyright issue of Sergey Akhromeyev. I understand that some parts are based on this website https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/akhromeev.htm .

But by summarizing some of the plagiarized parts, only his involvement in Chernobyl disaster and being the Marshal of Soviet Union were copied from the site. Remaining/majority parts were copied into his English Wikipedia page through machine translation of his article in Russian Wikipedia.

I hope you understand this and help me resolve the issue of his page in English Wikipedia.- Toadboy123 (talk) 16:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Please re-write the sections that are identical to the Global Security website. There's complete instructions on your user talk page.— Diannaa (talk) 22:02, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright.

I understand now. Sorry once again for the trouble. Kwesi Yema (talk) 00:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, and sorry

Hi Diannaa,

I want to take a moment to say thank you, and to apologize for a couple of things.

Sincerely, I want to thank you for choosing to stay out of the fray in a recent ruckus I started with some other admins. I managed to bring a world of scorn and loathing down upon myself, and it was nice you had the decency and common sense to simply stay out of it, especially as you were mentioned many times as this sorry affair played out. For me, some admins, who think they are "helping" or protecting the integrity of Wikipedia or defending the honor of another maligned admin or simply coaching a wayward editor who doesn't know any better or who "just won't shut up" are in fact throwing gas on a fire. In any case, thank you for taking the high road and staying out of the mud.

I'd also like to apologize for "pinging" you. I didn't know I was doing that. Other admins beat me up for pinging them, and I realized I was doing it to you, too. I'm not a full-time Wikipedia person - I contribute now and then when I can. I thought "ping" meant using the template {{ping}} and that this would appear as someone excplicitly having pinged you. Now I see that ping also includes "mentioning" someone by putting their user name in brackets. Editors like me tend to imitate what they see and we often make mistakes. In any case, I stopped wantonly pinging people once I realized the mistake and I'm sorry if I was bothering you, too. I think it might be helpful to have a short page somewhere that admins could point to that explains clear and simple what "stop pinging me" means and how to avoid doing it. I might try to create page like that, but I need to take a serious break from Wikipedia for my sanity.

Lastly, it may have appeared I was blaming you for something that happened in a DRN case regarding copyright. I never meant to accuse you of anything, and I'm sorry if it seemed I was doing that. I actually meant to tell people you were doing exactly the right thing by simply stating your view and bowing out of the discussion. At one point I said you were the only one who hadn't joined the DRN, and some admins pointed to this as if I was chastising you for it. I actually meant that you were the only one who had the sense NOT to join the DRN and that since you weren't originally in the participant list I felt it was appropriate to make a comment in the close. I really screwed up there for sure. Lesson learned. In any case, I just wanted you to know I wasn't blaming you for anything. Frankly I hold you in very high regard.

Again, thank you. And sorry.

Best regards, Coastside (talk) 01:08, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Coastside and thank you for your kind remarks and apology. At the risk of violating NPA, I am going to give you a bit of a summary of my view of how the events at Talk:Russell Islands played out. As you already know, Drmies pinged me to that page to have a look at the copyright status of a map and whether or not the external link to that map violated our external links rule as being contributory copyright infringement. I answered the question, and the other person asked me four times to elaborate, change my mind, explain how a well-known university could do such a thing, etc. pinging me each time. When someone pings me I would have the expectation that they are ready to hear my response, but no, I got multiple edit conflicts each time and had to repeatedly re-post each reply. Finally I asked him not to ping me any more - I was super busy doing CopyPatrol and had already answered (four times) to the best of my ability. There's a thing people do, it's called sealioning, that was what I thought was happening, and Drmies, being a wise and highly experienced editor-slash-admin saw it too. That's why he reacted the way he did, and that's why I did not participate at the DRN. More sealioning in my future? Aint nobody got time for that.— Diannaa (talk) 15:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Naonobu Ahagon Copyright

Hello, We have tried very hard to get this point across. We own all rights to the information on BlackBearKarate.com. If you need a consent form from Mark Spear (The person who created the site) please let us know. All we want is to make a Wikipedia for the president of our association (Naonobu Ahagon). It would do us a great deal if you would let us just create this page so we have another place for Reihokan students to get information. Thank you for your consideration. --Cmcq80fan (talk) 03:06, 18 November 2020 (UTC)Black Bear Dojo

I do understand tyour point quite thoroughly - it does happen quite often that people want to copy material to which they own the copyright into Wikipedia. You can't do that unless we have written permission. We need to have written documentation that shows the copyright holders have given permission for the material to be copied to this website. Wikipedia has procedures in place for this purpose. Please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa (talk) 15:12, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Another problem is notability. I am not sure the person is notable enough, as Wikipedia defines it, to have an article. We require write-ups in reliable third party sources such as newpapers, magazines, or online publishers to establish notability. New articles about persons or organisations that are not notable are typically speedily deleted.— Diannaa (talk) 16:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

We are notable. The information we have comes straight from Okinawa from Ahagon himself. We also get information from his granddaughter. Black Bear Dojo is notable.

Thank you very much for being so kind and for the help. I will send this to my Sensei (The copyright holder/ owner of Black Bear Dojo) and will send the email to the listed address for the form soon. Again thank you so much. --Cmcq80fan (talk) 14:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright notice

Hey Diannaa,

Earlier, you left a little copyright notice on my talk page and for my edits on the abolition history page. As I noted on my talk page, it's actually my own blog, and so I thought I should be able to reuse any of the content here I see fit. Another person responded, noting that I must first place a public license/use comment on my blog before it is possible to reuse any of it. So, after confirming with WordPress that I own the copyright on all my material, I did. There is now a notice on the top-right of my blog stating that everything on the website is available for free reuse. If you can take a look at that, and confirm that there are no issues, I would appreciate it if you added another comment to my talk page acknowledging this development and that I am no longer in violation of any of Wiki's policies - it would mean a lot to me. Thanks.Editshmedt (talk) 04:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but your notice is not adequate for Wikipedia's purposes, as it conflicts with our CC-by-SA license, which allows all uses, including commercial use (trying to profit off of it). Regardless of the copyright issue, blogs are not considered as reliable sources for Wikipedia.— Diannaa (talk) 15:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Updated the notice for the profit thing. And yes, I know it's not a reliable source - I wasn't citing it. I was just borrowing the language I wrote on the blog. The citation is, of course, to Harper's book. Are things alright now?Editshmedt (talk) 17:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I am not going to say that your current version is suitable, because I don't think it is. There's some suggested licenses and wordings at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already online. This is a legal matter so it has to be done correctly.— Diannaa (talk) 17:39, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

This turns out to be a bigger hassle than I thought it was. I copied and pasting the zero waiver wording from the link you gave me. Hopefully I'm not still forgetting something ... Editshmedt (talk) 20:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Page move

Hi Dianna, I'm attempting a move on the page Matthew G. Axelson‎ to Draft:Matthew Axelson, I have tagged the prior page for CSD and need it deleted to make the move, as consensus and notability has been established by a reviewer, could you kindly see to it's deletion. Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 04:26, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

The page Matthew G. Axelson‎ is listed at Category:Candidates for uncontroversial speedy deletion so someone experienced in doing such things should get to it soon.— Diannaa (talk) 15:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

As an administrator are you able to delete the page? it's only to move the draft into its place. Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 18:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

I have already refused, I am super busy and do not have time to investigate the quality of the article.— Diannaa (talk) 18:53, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

It was more of a query than a request, but alright. Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 18:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

copy right infringement Kuching7102 Y

Hi Diannaa, I have found the page Halis Bayancuk created by Kuching7102, who was blocked by you for copy right infringement. The article in question was also mainly copy pasted from an article and I am now trying to fix it. But he created several other articles as well, and these are now too much for me to check them all for today. Maybe you wanna have a look at them? Not a pleasant job I know, but I don't know where else to go with this. His articles are here.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:30, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

A better course is if you could please list the case at WP:CCI. The main criterion for a listing there is if you can find five instances of copyvio. Thank you, — Diannaa (talk) 14:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

User:Zhong ST

Hi there Diannaa, Noted! I am still in the process of referencing to the source of information and at the moment I am a beginner for editing the content in wiki. My apologies.

External link spamming

Hi Diannaa I hope this message finds you well. There's a user, user:Nroset, who has been spamming external links to the Discography of American Historical Recordings in hundreds of articles. I'm not sure what the policy or appropriate action to be taken (if any) is here; he's been reverted by many editors and Tim Riley even posted on his talk page. However, the edits have been continuing. Best - Aza24 (talk) 08:21, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have time to help with this problem.— Diannaa (talk) 13:02, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Possible Copyvio Samuel Watson (horologist)

Hello Diannaa, much of the "Royal connection" section in the Samuel Watson (horologist) article appears to have been copied verbatim from this website, as of October 27, 2020. Although the anon editor indicates that "...detail (was) taken from The Royal Collections Trust", they provide no reference nor indication that the material is in the Public Domain. Also, Earwig's Copyvio Detector does not pick up The Royal Collections Trust as a source. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 14:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for the report.— Diannaa (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Gamelan Instrument

Hello Diana, Thanks for remaining me.

For your information, this is the standard of Javanese gamelan set in Yogyakarta and Surakarta Palace. I adding descriptions about the additional instrument, the number of instruments, and the photos but u deleted all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Culturehistory (talk • contribs) 01:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

The content you added was copied from another website, and thus was a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please don't add copyright material to Wikipedia. — Diannaa (talk) 13:11, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

High Speed UK

Hi Diannaa, I would request you to first discuss any possible copyright violations, then proceed to remove content that violates copyright consensus, after the discussions are complete. All work that I put onto the HighSpeed UK Wikipedia page was based on information available on their official website. I cited all sources from the website and kept the information in the original context as much as possible. I do not understand why there is a copyright issue in the first place, when I have cited my sources. If there is an issue of copyright from using the official website of HighSpeed UK to enhance the Wikipedia page, then this would be mentioned on the official website.

In other words: 1) the official website doesn't mention any of its content as copyright. 2) I cited my sources as content of the official website. 3) your removal of content that I added to the site shouldn't have happened before you discussing this with me. 4) this may not be important to you but I took interest in adding content to this Wikipedia page because the page is communicating about a thing of potential global importance. 5) Adding to point four, isn't Wikipedia made for contextualizing information that is beneficial and important for global progress.

I hope you discuss such stuff before committing to action. Ranamode (talk) 10:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Under current copyright law, literary works are subject to copyright whether they are tagged as such or not. No registration is required, and no copyright notice is required. So please always assume that all material you find online is copyright. Regardless of the copyright issue, material copied from an organization's webpage is only very rarely suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, because one is written to promote something, and the other is an online encyclopedia.— Diannaa (talk) 13:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

SoundCloud

The information on SoundCloud that I used here on Wikipedia for Samuel Robinson aka Samssun is my Biography. I use it on all my Social media. Something2saycommunications (talk) 16:48, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

We need to have documentation that shows the copyright holders have given permission for the material to be copied to this website. Wikipedia has procedures in place for this purpose. Please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. FYI, Wikipedia is not social media; it's an encyclopedia.— Diannaa (talk) 19:56, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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Question

Hi, I see that you are experienced in dealing with Copyrignt issues and was hoping for some advice. I found an edit that was basically copy-pasted from the attached ref. I reverted the content and placed a copyvio notice on the editor's tp. I then found two more articles with copyvio's. (There may be even more than that, but some of the refs this editor uses are not English.)

I left a note on this user's talk page urging him to fix the two article's noted, and to check the rest of his edits (he only has about 300). I see that he has edited since (adding content with a non-English ref), but has not responded on his talk, has not fixed the two articles noted and has not edited any pages he previously made changes too.

This post contains all the relevant info. Could you please take a look and advise? Cheers - wolf 05:53, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Thewolfchild and thank you for the report. It's not realistic to expect users to clean up their own copyvio - it just doesn't happen. I will go through their edits and monitor their contribs for a while. For larger cases, please file a report at WP:CCI.— Diannaa (talk) 12:11, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks Diannaa - wolf 12:29, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

School song lyrics

Hi Diannaa. Would you mind taking a look at Campion School, Mumbai#School anthem and Campion School, Bhopal#School anthem? It seems that those sections shouldn't be OK per #1 of MOS:LYRICS, but the school songs might possibly be old enough to be PD per c:COM:INDIA#Durations. I'm not sure about that, but the use of the lyrics might still might fail #3 of MOS:LYRICS even if the songs are PD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

I have removed the lyrics as they might still enjoy copyright protection but I won't be doing revision deletion. We don't usually include lyrics regardless of the copyright status.— Diannaa (talk) 11:43, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Diannaa. I thought that was probably the case. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:15, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome

Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda!— Diannaa (talk) 11:43, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Sergey Akhromeyev

This is regarding the copyright problem of the page Sergey Akhromeyev. The page is currently suffering from copyright issues because of some parts copied from the website https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/akhromeev.htm .

Although you labelled the page as 'page as a potential copyright issue', I managed to remove the copyrighted parts of the website from the page. But still, you maintained the page as 'a potential copyright issue' and an administrator needs to assess the copyright violations of the page before the given time (i.e. after 21:40, 24 November 2020 (UTC)), when the problematic text may be deleted one week after the time of its listing, by the administrator.

As of now, no administrator has reviewed the page or solved the copyright issue and its currently beyond the given time/deadline. So, can you plz rectify the issue of the page ?

Thanks - Toadboy123 (talk) 06:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Toadboy123. The page still needed some work, so I have done some additional edits. Thank you for your patience.— Diannaa (talk) 13:46, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you -Toadboy123 (talk) 14:05, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of article America's Book of Secrets

I was looking for this article and I see that you speedily deleted it. Can you provide a link to the deleted article? It appears to be a notable Netflix and History Channel series. You gave reasons G11 and G12 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=America%27s_Book_of_Secrets&action=edit&redlink=1 - was the attempted article just poorly executed? Ghostofnemo (talk) 04:43, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

The content was plot descriptions copied from elsewhere online. That was all that was there.— Diannaa (talk) 11:33, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Utah Beach article, St. Marcouf

Hi Dianna, I assume accuracy is important to you. Despite being a Canadian, I have been to Marmion Farm multiple times as I lead tours to Normandy (I include Juno Beach, too, of course). I can send you montage photos blending my modern photos with the barns depicted in the World War II photos. I have been to St. Marcouf as recently as 2018. There are no barns in the village and nothing remotely similar. There is absolutely no doubt that the photo was taken at Marmion Farm, probably with Forrest Guth's camera. He was a member of Easy Company, 506 PIR, 101st made famous by Band of Brothers. My friend Ed Tipper (depicted in the series) spent D-Day fighting at Marmion Farm so I have a great interest in that area. Military websites can make mistakes, and the one you've cited is clearly wrong. What would it take to correct the page?2601:280:5A80:6470:85D0:63C8:C7B1:CC7F (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia depends on sourced content. The source for this image says "A group of paratroopers in a French village at St. Marcouf, Utah Beach, France. From here they will move on into the continent, accomplishing their assigned objectives. 8 June 1944. Photo by Werner. SC 189921-S". The source website is the US Army Center of Military History. So no, I cannot take your word for it that the photo was taken somewhere else or assume that the US Army got it wrong based on your comment. — Diannaa (talk) 19:50, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

You don't need to take my word for it. If the goal is accuracy, there must be a way to overcome the error on the army website. If an RCMP site claimed that Stettler was between Regina and Saskatoon, other evidence should be able to override that error. I'm just asking what you need to get to the truth. Here are some more samples, starting with two montages that I personally photographed and created: My first montage at Marmion My second montage at Marmion Overlay at Marmion Scroll down six photos here to see Marmion Google map includes a related photo Thanks for considering the evidence. I will attempt to contact the army site about correcting their error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hockeyboy5 (talk • contribs) 11:33, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but user-generated content from YouTube is not considered to be a reliable source. The building in the Google photo looks nothing like the Utah Beach photo. So no.— Diannaa (talk) 13:35, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Hey

I follow the rule of "Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia" (such as here), I want to ask this rule is also apply also here ([5]), If yes, then I need to fix my edit. Thanks and have a nice day. Eliko007 (talk) 06:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Please follow the rule whenever you copy from one Wikipedia article to another.— Diannaa (talk) 13:24, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Copyrights

Someone has copy pasted recently in Swaminathan Gurumurthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4072:38C:2F6B:5FF0:71FA:F97D:FCEB (talk) 15:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Cleaned. Thank you for reporting— Diannaa (talk) 15:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Request RevDel or advice

Hiya, I found your name on the list of admins willing to handle RevDel. I just moved my sandbox page to Six Nations of the Grand River Elected Council, but now that page has a misleadingly long history. If possible, it would be good to have the edit history from this version backwards re-assigned to User:James Hyett/sandbox. I don't know if this is something that can be accomplished best with RevDel, but if not, please let me know what I should do! Thanks, James Hyett (talk) 22:44, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

I did it as a delete-and-restore. It took me a few tries— Diannaa (talk) 23:35, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Just to clarify, the irrelevant diffs were deleted, not moved back to the sandbox. Hope that's okay.— Diannaa (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

That's fine, thanks! James Hyett (talk) 00:53, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Dianaa!

Thanks for the tip, I’ll fix it! JesusMCarrasco (talk) 02:36, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation

Hi Diannaa. You recently removed content apparently in breach of copyright from Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation. This mainly seems to concern a report commissioned by Galway County Council, subsequently republished by the Department of Children and Youth Affairs and published on the Irish government's website. How does a copyright infringement occur? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:52, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I checked carefully and found no evidence that the Government of Ireland website is compatibly licensed, so I had to assume that it is not.— Diannaa (talk) 15:55, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Does it matter that neither the report itself nor the gov.ie website carry copyright notices? The gov.ie site used to have a 're-use of public sector information' page, but it appears to be gone now. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 21:16, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

No, it doesn't matter. Under current copyright law, literary works are protected by copyright, even if they don't have a notice. No registration is required either.— Diannaa (talk) 22:04, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

This wasn't/isn't a literary work, it's a report commissioned by a County Council into what might be done with bodies discovered in a mass grave, that includes background material, references to other organisations and reports, surveys, interviews, and submissions from interested parties. Irish - not U.S. - copyright law would apply. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 23:33, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I used the woing terminology. Please see Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Ireland where it states that "Where a work is made by an officer or employee of the Government or of the State, in the course of his or her duties, the work qualifies for copyright protection" and "Government copyright in a work shall expire 50 years from the end of the calendar year in which the work was made."— Diannaa (talk) 00:13, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Bastun: Diannaa is correct: 50 years after creation has always been my understanding of Irish copyright law regarding government works. FYI, I've been dealing with Irish copyright ever since I started editing here. ww2censor (talk) 00:27, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, both. It seems government websites are undergoing a reorganisation, with individual sites being brought back in underneath a single overarching 'gov.ie' website, but some are still separate and have the 're-use of public sector information' notice up. Investigating further, it seems the regulations linked by Diannaa, above, have been updated; most recently in 2015. That notice (which seems to allow re-use subject to acknowledgement, which is done in our sourcing using standard reference formates), in turn leads to a more comprehensive history of and guides and regulations on re-use of PSI. Section 7 of the main circular listed indicates CC-BY 4.0 licence is in use. I'm unsure how compatible CC-BY 4.0 is with CC-BY-SA 3.0. Happy to open a discussion on this somewhere central, if ye think that'd be appropriate? Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 13:14, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

It's not clear at all to me that the government's documents have all been released under license. this page frames the matter as a recommendation. It's not clear to me that it was ever acted on or that the content is now compatibly licensed. CC-by-4.0 is a compatible license.

Regardless, the material I removed was not copied from a government website and I could not find it on a government website. It came from https://www.tuamhomesurvivors.com/images/News/20180707-consultationreport/20180706TuamConsultationReport.pdf. So unless you can find this particular paragraph on one of the government's websites, the point is moot. It reads as follows:

There were 799 written submissions sent in to Galway County Council along with large group, small group and individual consultations and interviews. Analysis of the written submissions found that two options were clearly favoured by the majority; either memorialisation alone (option 1) or complete forensic excavation of the site with DNA analysis (option 5). The consultations indicated that memorialisation should occur irrespective of which option was implemented. Preferences were highly related to the type of stakeholders consulted. Local residents largely wished for memorialisation and non- disturbance of the remains. Former residents of the Tuam Mother and Baby Home along with relatives of former residents of the home overwhelmingly wished for full forensic excavation of the site along with DNA analysis.

— Diannaa (talk) 13:33, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay here I found something. At https://data.gov.ie/pages/opendatalicence, see the recommendation section, which says in part: "All data and metadata linked to data.gov.ie will be associated with the Creative Commons Attribution (CC-BY) Licence, at a minimum. Public bodies may waive copyright and associate datasets with CC0, if that is considered appropriate." The second paragraph indicates that all pages that are released under the CC-by license will be clearly identified as such. The Mother and Baby homes article does not use a data.gov.ie website for any of its content. — Diannaa (talk) 13:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Reference 62 on the article links to the www.gov.ie page that hosts the report in pdf format, that's quoted above. It should probably link to the pdf itself, rather than the hosting page. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 16:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

New username

Hey Diannaa, sorry my other account got blocked indefinitely, but I finally created my new account called "Suleeabc1". Suleeabc1 (talk) 22:02, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Change requests on Neste article

Hi there! As you've earlier edited Neste I was wondering if you could take a look about the proposals I made on the Talk page. Cheers and have a nice December! Jjanhone (talk) 10:07, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio in Bodoland Territorial Region

Hi Diannaa! User:Ram bhfgd has inserted copyrighted text from [6] into Bodoland Territorial Region multiple times, last time here[7] after having been warned [8]. –Austronesier (talk) 12:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

All done. Thank you for the report. I will watch-list the article for a while.— Diannaa (talk) 12:45, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Vostok 4

Hi. I changed the wording a little from the original source. If that level of change was not enough, I reckon it's preferable to modified it more rather than to delete all. It's very interesting stuff! --Jbaranao (talk) 14:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't have time to re-write the content for you. Please stop adding copyright material to Wikipedia - you already received a final warning, though it was back in 2016. — Diannaa (talk) 14:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio on Giuseppe Devastato

Hello, just a heads up that someone re-added copyvio after your revert. I've gone ahead and removed it. B732 (talk) 18:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, all fixed up.— Diannaa (talk) 18:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Poetry

Hello again. I ran across Ali Bu'ul that seems to have several poems quoted in full. I know we don't usually do that; is that due to copyright or just being unencyclopedic to "reprint" so much? These are so old that I doubt anyone has a copyright. MB 04:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

19th-century poetry is no longer under copyright. But the translations are copyright. Poems in a foreign language are of limited usefulness to our readers. I left in one short translation.— Diannaa (talk) 12:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Muntinlupa

Hi Diaana, This is from PLMun, you recently removed the updated and correct history background of Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Muntinlupa that we put. The content the we used is from our website and we are also the one who manage the official website of PLMun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misplmun (talk • contribs) 07:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Misplmun: Thank you for your interest in working on Wikipedia. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.

The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 12:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Mark Golding copyvios

Hi Diannaa, could you check Mark Golding for copyvios? A significant amount matches this source, with minor changes. It's also written very informally, and in a PR style. One of the recent contributors may have a COI, and I'm following up on that separately. Thanks as always. BilCat (talk) 08:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

We already had that content on October 9, the date that article was published.— Diannaa (talk) 12:18, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. BilCat (talk) 17:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Stranded assets

Hey Diannaa, Is it possible to put the info https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stranded_asset&action=history revision from 15:52, 2 December 2020‎ back unto my sandbox for a little while ? As I was working on it, and adapting the text as I went along, I indeed left some copied text and didn't reword it. So yes I've been in fault there, but know even the revision has been deleted from the logs and I can't even look back into it to continue working on it. It would have been easier still if you just left the revisions open so I could change the text in sections (you made 4 corrections, so I could of then do it in sections rather then needing to go through the whole thing at once (after which the logs/revisions could be deleted). Anyway, I'd be content with just moving the latest revision to my sandbox or talk page, and then having you remove that revision afterwards after I finished rewording it. --Genetics4good (talk) 12:01, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, but we can't host copyright content, not even temporarily for editing, not even in sandboxes or drafts. I can send you the removed material via email, but you will have to activate your Wikipedia email first.— Diannaa (talk) 12:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Never mind, I'll put in again more time and effort and redo the lead by what I remember from the articles by head. Will probably result in lower-quality text though.

--Genetics4good (talk) 08:14, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft: N'Doul

Sorry Dianna-senpai, but these sources are known, I'm also an editor of their community, I already have a profile with the same name kkk 177.12.182.96 (talk) 15:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)177.12.182.96 (talk) 15:21, 3 December 2020 (UTC)Otakuplayer2004

Regarding Oliver Byrne (mathematician)

Hi Diannaa, that information you removed from Oliver Byrne’s biography is my work, it was not copy and paste, I can provide you with all the material that I used to make my own tesis, I work so hard on this, please reconsider or talk to me, I would appreciate if you just read the biography everything is modified which is within copyright laws. Thanks my best regards JesusMCarrasco (talk) 15:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

If you are the copyright holder and wish to release this material under a compatible license, please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent.— Diannaa (talk) 15:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Please look at this!

Please look at this!

This is one of the sites I use, look at theirs copyright license please. https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Miscellaneous/copyright/ Thanks Diannaa JesusMCarrasco (talk) 17:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

This the other web site I used

https://www.tandfonline.com/terms-and-conditions Thank you much JesusMCarrasco (talk) 18:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Kiriji War

Hi Diannaa, Thanks for the correction with the "Treaty" heading. Please, just so I don't repeat the same mistake in the future.(1) What is PD? (2) Could I re-post the Treaty by just summarizing important bullet points in the Treaty, name the signatories to the treaty and then add citations?

Thank you, stay safe Bo2ly (talk) 19:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

"PD" is "public domain". We don't normally include public domain texts in their entirety on Wikipedia. For that sort of thing we have a separate wiki called Wikisource. If you wish to post a copy of the entire treaty, that's the place to do it. For Wikipedia, a short summary of the treaty would be more appropriate.— Diannaa (talk) 21:01, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Díannaa

I have to go to work but if you need something else please let me know, I worked very hard on research all this data then putting everything together but anyway I have to go, thanks again JesusMCarrasco (talk) 19:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Diannaa (talk) 21:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Thom Brooks

Hey! Could you please look at the recent edits on Thom Brooks. I don't want to get into an Edit War, but looking at the IPs it looks like the recent undo's have been coming from Durham University/Durham so a higher likelihood this is WP:OR. My concern is that the page is made to look like an academic CV, with the main reason for keeping the edits is that they are cited in Google Scholar and the academic's personal website. Thanks for your time! Nicnote^{say hello!}_contribs 11:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, the place to start is to open a discussion on the article talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 11:47, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I've now done so, thanks Nicnote^{say hello!}_contribs 13:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Where do I read up on ...

Hi Diannaa, and perhaps stalkers. I hate to be a nuisance and I can see how busy you are ... I just hoped that asking a knowledgeable person for some pointers might be quicker than me as a clueless person starting an uninformed search! I hope you don't mind my checking with you.

So, please don't feel that you need to give individualized answers to these questions – pointing me in the right direction to read up might be just as good/fast/whatever.

1. The rules on a fair use image of something that is in copyright. I know it must be small and not high-res but I don't know how this is regulated numerically – pixels, file size, dpi, some complex interaction?
2. (I am thinking here about mostly record or CD artwork, and book covers, if that helps.)
3. How to tell if something rather oldish is in copyright or not? Should I be worrying about its country of origin, or where Wikipedia is, or something else? I know there are different periods in different jusrisdictions – seems like a nightmare!
4. My assumption that if it is out of copyright I can photograph or scan it as nicely as I like??
5. My assumption that new artwork for an out-of-copyright work is itself in copyright – that is, it, the artwork, is a new creation and has its protections in place and it doesn't matter that the original work underneath it was written in 1890 or whenever?

Sorry to bother you with this but, as I say, I hope it is not onerous and easy enough for you to answer ...

Thanks and all good wishes, DBaK (talk) 13:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Fair use images are reduced by a bot when tagged with {{non-free reduce}}. The formula is to multiply the height by the width and get it to less than 100,000. There used to be a tool on Toolserver; the archived version is still functional. Album covers are typically reduced to 300x300.

When looking for info on copyright terms, the place to start is the Hirtle Chart. There's a copy at the Commons: Commons:Hirtle chart. Life doesn't get much easier at this point though, because it's a pretty technical document and can be difficult to parse/navigate.

Copyright rules are different for two-dimensional works as opposed to three-dimensional works. See Commons:Derivative works for a flow chart. For a flat work such as a painting or a scan of an old book, 2D rules apply. A faithful reproduction of a 2D public domain work does not generate a new copyright. A derivative work of a public domain work does generate a new copyright (for example a souped-up modified version of a PD old painting). 3D works (statues, 3D relief carvings, even buildings in some countries) have different rules in different countries. Freedom of panorama applies. Here's a list of the copyright-related things I have bookmarked at the Commons:

• Commons:Deletion policy
• Commons:De minimis
• Commons:Currency
• Commons:Derivative works
• Commons:Freedom of panorama
• c:Commons:Hirtle chart - the starting place for term-of-copyright research
• Commons:Public art and copyrights in the US
• Commons:Copyright rules by territory - I use this to look up copyright lengths in different countries as well as whether or not the government of that country places a copyright on government works.
• Commons:Threshold of originality
• Commons:URAA-restored copyrights - here's where things get really technical.
• Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter

This is all probably TMI but I am sure there are talk page watchers who will also find things of use — Diannaa (talk) 20:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much, and no it's really not TMI at all ... it is very very useful to have all this set out so clearly. I will have a good and careful look at it, and proceed with great care if/when I get round to the ideas I'm hoping to look at. Please accept my sincere thanks and best wishes, DBaK (talk) 22:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @DB&K: here are a few salient points or rules of thumb regarding “rather oldish” works. The main difference between enWP and Commons, aside from the latter’s not allowing fair-use content at all, is that here things need only be free of US copyright, while Commons requires them to be free in the country of origin as well. As far as the US is concerned, pretty well everything first published more than 95 years ago, anywhere in the world, is in the public domain, as are all creations of American federal government employees produced as part of their work. The USA also has a rather high threshold of originality, meaning that artwork comprising only typography, simple geometric shapes, and conventional symbols cannot be copyrighted there, but elsewhere the bar is often considerably lower. Note that the ineligibility of faithful reproductions of 2-D works for their own copyright arises out of US case law, and is not clearly established in most other jurisdictions—but is Commons policy regardless (as an exception to my first point, where applicable). In most countries the creations of people who died more than 70 years ago, possibly excepting posthumous publications, are PD. Commons will presume works of uncertain authorship or publication history to be free only if they were clearly created at least 120 years ago. (Diannaa, I have taken the liberty of fixing the above xwiki links.)—Odysseus1479 22:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Habr Awal

Hi Diannaa would it be possible to reduce the protection level of the Habr Awal page? I've been using the talk section to put in requests and this section Habr Awal_#Garaads and Sultans of the Habr Awal was my work. I'd like to edit it directly though since that's much easier and I can fix typos as well. I have also created (while referencing and paraphrasing accurately this time) 3 confirmed pages, Abdulrahman Deria, Sheikh Madar and Michael Mariano. Thanks, WanderingGeeljire (talk) 10:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

You should be asking the person who placed the protection – it was User:Yamaguchi先生.— Diannaa (talk) 19:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Borden Dairy

Thank you for the reminders on the edits I made in Borden Dairy. I would like to extend an apology. As these instances occur where an editor corrects me, I become more informed and learn from my mistakes. I'll keep in mind of your observation and hopefully continue making significant contributions in WP. AlphonseOop (talk) 10:50, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Can Yaman

Hi Diannaa. When you're not busy I'd be grateful if you could please take a look at the recent revision history for the article Can Yaman. Two newly registered editors this month in December 2020 have recently added large chunks of text to the article. I'm concerned that some of the wording of the new lengthy text might be possible copyright violations. Thanks. Regards, Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 02:49, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I didn't find any copyvio but did a massive cleanup anyways. Lets see if it sticks! — Diannaa (talk) 12:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Diannaa for the big cleanup! – Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 00:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Revdelete request

The content I removed appears to be copyrighted. [9]Scorpions13256 (talk) 14:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Never mind. Taken care of. Scorpions13256 (talk) 14:38, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	approval sent? idk how these things work Shotgunscoop (talk) 22:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Regarding my sandbox

Hey, I read what you had said about the sandbox and how I violated the terms and conditions. However, I am submitting this for a class, and could please kindly put it back up. I haven't plagainzared because I plagiarized everything and cited all the information including the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samyampyakurel (talk • contribs) 18:44, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but copyright content is not allowed on Wikipedia, not even in sandboxes or drafts, and not even for school assignments.— Diannaa (talk) 20:25, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open

G'day all, the nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject newcomer and Historian of the Year are open, all editors are encouraged to nominate candidates for the awards before until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2020, after which voting will occur for 14 days. There is not much time left to nominate worthy recipients, so get to it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

Diannaa,

First, thank you for the information and help. I really appreciate it, I am new (probably that is obvious but I am really enjoying it). I was one of those clueless (but appreciative) people who went to Wikipedia and thought it all happened by magic. Now that I have been working, just a little bit here, I know how wrong I was! I see you are here for 10+ so not only do I say thank for the help with this, I can say thanks for all you HAVE done... Take Care! I even learned about using the ~ to sign my name lol.

W2317 (talk) 12:09, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

"Frantic" Fay Thomas

Could you please check this article out? On the curation tool, I'm getting a 58% match for copyvios, which normally means that there are a lot of titles/short quotes in the article (which would make sense with this piece), but when I run the whole copyvios report, it comes up blank. Thanks. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured out the problem. For some reason the article title didn't transclude from the curation tool. It was exactly what I thought regarding titles/short quotes. Sorry to bother you.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello Copyright

Thanks for the message and links to the information regarding Copyright info for my edits to American Bully. I apologize as that was my first edit, was unaware of the policy and did not notice that at the bottom of the source page. I was able to reach out to the site owner via creating an account an using an internal message system. I explained what I was trying to do (use the information as a reference or source) and that I was unable to based on the notices at the bottom of each page. He/She? stated they would make the appropriate changes in regards to the notices, did not realize it was there, and was likely something added by the web design people. I will review it either tonight or tomorrow, note that the Copyright notices have been dealt with. I will rewrite it more substantively different and give it another go. Again my apologies on that and thank you for providing me with the heads up. I think the format for this is correct, heads up me on any format issues or policies regarding user talkWoofspokenhere (talk) 19:38, 15 December 2020 (UTC)Woofspokenhere

Edicts of Government are not Copyrighted

You removed edits on Vexatious litigation, saying it was due to the copied information being copyrighted.

However, the US Copyright Office states in the US Copyright Office Compendium (Third) § 313.6(C)(2) Government Edict "As a matter of longstanding public policy, the U.S. Copyright Office will not register a government edict that has been issued by any state, local, or territorial government, including legislative enactments, judicial decisions, administrative rulings, public ordinances, or similar types of official legal materials."

US Copyright Compendium II stated in section 206.01 "Edicts of government. Edicts of government, such as judicial opinions, administrative rulings, legislative enactments, public ordinances, and similar official legal docu-ments are not copyrightable for reasons of public policy. This applies to such works whether they are Federal, State, or local as well as to those of foreign governments."

Multiple case law supports this position.

So the legislation, and edicts, quoted are not copyrightable. Wikipedia's own page on Edicts of government states this.

Stiggle (talk) 12:35, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

The content I removed was not a government edict, but prose describing a list of vexatious litigants in Texas. So no, I don't think that rule applies here,— Diannaa (talk) 13:40, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

References

Requesting updating of Women related laws in Pakistan with new text

Greetings,

As per Wikipedia's expected due process I have updated Talk:Women related laws in Pakistan/Temp building it from scratch with proper close paraphrasing. I suppose it would be acceptable at least as a stub.

Since updating of Talk:Women related laws in Pakistan/Temp we will not be depending on previous text of the article, I requesting to shift the text from Talk:Women related laws in Pakistan/Temp to Women related laws in Pakistan.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 02:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello Bokku. I have gone ahead and moved the new version from the temp page. Please visit the article and clean up the messy citations.— Diannaa (talk) 12:59, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks, it was very nice of you. I am more used to visual editor so citation edits and other edits will be easier for me. Warm regards Bookku (talk) 13:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Disruptive editing or not?

Dear Dianna,
I add fluctuation forma for Covid-19 infobox like this, this, and this LSGH said, "You are giving other editors too many unnecessary things to update." I don't know what to do Please advice me. Mithila(talk) (contributions) 11:30, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Please discuss it with the other user as to why they think these things are unnecessary. — Diannaa (talk) 12:42, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible Copyvio Congregation of Saint Thérèse of Lisieux

Hello Diannaa, Earwig's Copyvio Detector shows a high probability of potential copyright content that was added to the Congregation of Saint Thérèse of Lisieux article on November 23, 2020. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 14:11, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 14:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible Copyvio COVID-19 vaccine

Hello Diannaa, with regards to the current copyvio enforcement on Sinovac and CoronaVac, is there something similar that should be done for COVID-19 vaccine subection: CoronaVac transparency dispute in Brazil? Not sure if I need to bring this up directly on the admin noticeboard or here is fine. Thanks in advance, Albertaont (talk) 16:14, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Good catch - I will fix that up right away. Thanks— Diannaa (talk) 16:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Posting here is fine — Diannaa (talk) 16:19, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Diannaa for your guidance. Hoping to be a part of this community in the long run WikiEditorAd (talk) 18:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)WikiEditorAd

Wikipedia article aid

Diannaa, please help and translate this article [of the Ashanti Empire] from German into English. The English translation at the moment is just a sub section of the Ashanti Empire. Please help translate the article into an English article. Notice the German title when translated into English will sound wrong as well. Kwesi Yema (talk) 23:42, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

English Patriot Man

It's been quite a while since a new English Patriot Man sock has popped up, but I got to thinking about EsotericJoe, who edited for quite a while before they were uncovered as a sock. There's another relatively new editor like that, LeftiePete, 3 months old with 1,734 edits.

I did a scan using the Editor Interaction Analyzer, with EPN's top 9 socks by number of edits, and LeftiePete, and found that they overlapped on over 70 articles. [10].

What do you think, should I take this to SPI? Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:14, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes please. I don't have time to do a detailed look right now. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 12:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Filed: [11] Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:36, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I will review it later.— Diannaa (talk) 21:38, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Since nobody else has shown an interest in assessing your report, I have gone ahead and blocked. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 01:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Sexual abuse copyvios

InsulinRS added everything he "wrote" to at least three articles every time, so for example you'll have to go through Catholic Church sexual abuse cases by country, etc. to catch the ncronline one, just to throw one example out there. Elizium23 (talk) 14:13, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

I still haven't finished the first one. Can you please provide a list of all the ones that need cleaning? Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 14:17, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Diannaa, in addition to the abovementioned, there's Catholic Church sexual abuse cases in Canada. Still checking for more... Elizium23 (talk) 14:20, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I am going to remove the content totally as it's riddled with copyvio and it's not a good use of admin time to try to clean it at this point.— Diannaa (talk) 14:21, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

I suspect that User:2601:447:4080:10:38A5:3EE9:89C3:DD76 is InsulinRS' prior identity due to topic area and contribution dates. Elizium23 (talk) 14:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

The plot thickens: User:2601:447:4100:C120:2D1E:AB29:6CAA:1B0F is rangeblocked by a CheckUser block! Elizium23 (talk) 14:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

This is more than I can take on right now. I have requested a case be opened at WP:CCI.— Diannaa (talk) 14:41, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

PS: Once the case is opened, a list of articles that need to be checked will be generated by a script, so you won't need to help with that step after all.— Diannaa (talk) 14:46, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Sydney Olympic Park

Would you have a moment to look at the edits of User:The Drover's Wife at Sydney Olympic Park in June 2018? They make up a significant portion of the article's history section, and appear to have been copied word-for-word from [12]. Thank you very much. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

No huhu, the source webpage is compatibly licensed with a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International. The required attribution is already present at the bottom of the article.— Diannaa (talk) 23:06, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

I always put stuff into my own words. Thanks for checking! Magnolia677 (talk) 23:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

You coulda checked it yourself— Diannaa (talk) 23:11, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

I did. This link was dead, and the message at the bottom of the cited article said "All information and pictures on this page are the copyright of the Heritage Division or respective copyright owners". Sorry to have bothered you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:36, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

The copyright page now lives at this locale. Sorry to have gotten snippy, I am tired.— Diannaa (talk) 23:44, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Last week one of my neighbors--a senior who loves music--commented that Charley Pride had died, and noted he was from a little town called Sledge, Mississippi. "Where the hell is Sledge, Mississippi?" he asked. I chuckled thinking about all the things we do for Wikipedia. Cheers and thanks for all you do. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:25, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Look at how many wikis are using that photo. You are an international sensation— Diannaa (talk) 13:29, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible false positive result of copyvio check

Hi! Could you please point me what to do in the following situation? I'm currently reviewing (this DYK nomination) and the copyvio tool indicated a potential violation. I have contacted the nominator and they told me that the web site involved (wikiy.org) is a mirror.

I have checked the list of known mirrors here, but I did not find it listed there. I am still trying to confirm that the site is indeed a mirror (I trust it is, but I prefer to check). Could you tell me if there is any established process for such determination and subsequent inclusion in the list of mirrors? Thanks --Tomobe03 (talk) 13:57, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Tomobe03! I have had a look at several articles on the site and they are all copies of Wikipedia articles (I don't think there is an established process for making that determination, but this case looks obvious). The ones I looked at were Soetran, B. 130, Drimnagh, Siddharth Katragadda. I have added a {{backwards copy}} template to the article talk page for Soetran. I will add the website to the mirrors list next, using the instructions on the page.— Diannaa (talk) 14:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! In the meantime, I also looked at few articles (including several where I contributed), and concluded the same thing.Tomobe03 (talk) 14:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible Copyvio Wedding customs in Ethiopia

Hi Diannaa, Earwig's Copyvio Detector shows a high probability of potential copyright content in Wedding customs in Ethiopia, which was added on September 7, 2020. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 15:07, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for the report.— Diannaa (talk) 15:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Art - Copyright

Thank you for your help, also because I'm new to Wiki. With regard to art and law, I have read the German, French and Italian Wikipedia text and judged one paragraph in German to be good and important. I then tried to translate the thought there and add my own thoughts to it. In the German wiki text there is no reference to the source. Those from "http://business.bentoncourier.com/bentoncourier/news/read/39782084/masterpieces" have obviously just translated the entire part of the German Wikipedia into English and pass it off as theirs. In any case, I didn't know their text. Basically I wanted to do everything right!

Nevertheless, thank you very much for your work for Wikipedia. Greetings from Central Europe!

Schi11 - 18:20, 20.12.2020

Sorry for the mistake. It's okay to copy or translate from the German Wikipedia, but if you do so, you have to provide attribution as required by the terms of the CC-by-SA license. There's more information on this topic at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Copying from other Wikimedia projects. I have undone the revision deletion, but please don't re-add the content unless you've got sources to back it up.— Diannaa (talk) 17:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the good information! All the best!! Schi11 - 18:59, 20.12.2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schi11 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

261st Medical Battalion

Thank you for your comments. I've been trying to clean up the page. Anything I've added that can be attributed, I have attributed. The page's original author had an unattributed mess. I spent several years in the battalion's higher headquarters, so I have some personal knowledge; I've made changes in some places that reflect that knowledge (correcting names and branches of commanders, for example) that were entered incorrectly by the page author. I'm in the process now of going back and tidying up the mess. And I can assure you, anything that I add will be attributed--although I'm often accused of "original research," even if my source documents are on the internet. :-) Regards, Don.H.40 (talk) 21:49, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Regarding magic mushrooms...

Thank you, Diannaa, for your message on my talk page, regarding my edit Psilocybin decriminalization in the United States. I completely agree with and support the principles you mentioned. Nothing regarding my edits can be discussed specifically, because I didn't save a copy of the editing, which is fine. And thanks for the invitation to post here with any questions.I thought I would make another attempt to contribute proper content to the article (Psilocybin decriminalization in the United States), and give you a heads-up, perhaps you could keep an eye on what I do? Thanks. GümsGrammatiçus (talk) 00:40, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Change of plans -- I'm going to leave it alone. Thanks.GümsGrammatiçus (talk) 00:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

copyright related solution

Hi, Dianna, i want to ask some question i have taken permission from copyright owner (Corpseed) for my created page Foreign Manufacturers Certification Scheme and you already knew that i also used some material from Government site but it doesn't come under copyright (https://bis.gov.in/) now tell me the perfect solution for my created page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dheeraj budhori (talk • contribs) 10:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

We need to have documentation that shows the copyright holders have given permission for the material to be copied to this website. Wikipedia has procedures in place for this purpose. Please see WP:Donating copyrighted materials for an explanation of how to do it. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. Web pages of the Government of India are copyright, so please don't copy from them either,— Diannaa (talk) 14:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Sustainable Forestry Initiative

Hi Diannaa I wanted to reach out to see why my updates to the Sustainable Forestry Initiative page were rejected. The current page is really out of date. SFI has expanded its work into education and community initiatives and added a lot of conservation-related work. I also added dates to some of the existing older content to put things in context. I'm new to all this and want to make sure I'm following the rules properly. Did my updates get rejected because I didn't conform to Wikipedia standards? Thanks in advance for your help on this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ecwwoodworth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecwwoodworth (talk • contribs) 14:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The content you added to the article appears to have been copied from the organization's website, which is not released under a compatible license. Copying text directly from a source is a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, the content had to be removed. Content you add to Wikipedia should be written in your own words. — Diannaa (talk) 14:10, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

••••🎄Merry Christmas🎄••••

"May you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a ..Merry Christmas.. and a ..Happy New Year.., whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you ..warm greetings.. for Christmas and New Year 2021."

Happy editing,
User:245CMR

Nigeria Entertainment Awards

Hi, Diannaa. I notice you've previously edited the above article. As a more qualified editor than myself, could you take a look at this diff of an edit by user RagingBullEnt at 12:44, 9 June 2020? (I'm sure that there's a better way to link diffs, but I don't know what it is.)

It seems to me that the last line ". . . cancelled due to escalated cased of Xenophobia." (which is still in the current version) is somewhat odd, but given that user's other substantial edits to the article (though he/she has edited no other) I hesitate to call vandalism. I'll leave the matter to your superior judgement. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.56.237 (talk) 12:47, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Just remove it; it's unsourced.— Diannaa (talk) 14:19, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

How to make diffs, so pretty, so easy: Step one: Create an account. Step two: Import the script User:Scottywong/diffconverter to your Javascript file.— Diannaa (talk) 14:32, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Copies from other wikis?

How do you deal with situations such as this:

• Draft:Harveer_Gulia

Where the source has a free license so it's not technically a copyright issue, but the source is a wiki and therefore not a reliable source, and none of the content is referenced to a reliable source?--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:05, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

If it's copied from another Wikipedia I do this: Diff of Draft:Expertisehouders Levensbeschouwelijke Collecties (VRB) and add a {{Translated page}} to the talk page.

If it's copied from a compatibly licensed wiki such as Fandom, I do this: Diff of Draft:Crystal Miracle Princess (the new page patrollers would likely decline the draft). If I see the same thing in article space, I typically remove it.

If the source webpage is not compatibly licensed, I remove it/delete the draft.— Diannaa (talk) 14:27, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. By coincidence I ran across a fandom site, which I seem to pop up a lot lately and intended to ask you about it but you beat me to it. I hope you enjoy your holiday.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

Hello Diannaa, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021. Happy editing, RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 15:04, 24 December 2020 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Here's wishing you and your loved ones on the occasion of Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year.RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 15:04, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

File:Christmas tree in field.jpg	Merry Christmas Diannaa
	Hi Diannaa, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia this past year, like this tree, you are a light shining in the darkness. Onel5969 TT me 12:07, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy XMAS

Oversnacking can be a concern at this time of year......... merry XMAS Diannaa Coolabahapple (talk) 22:19, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Greetings of the season

I Am Half-Sick of Shadows, Said the Lady of Shalott		Happy holidays
		Dear Diannaa, For you and all your loved ones, "Let there be mercy". Wishing you health, peace and happiness this holiday season and in the coming year. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@SandyGeorgia: Thank you for the lovely greeting, which inspired me to learn a little more about both the painting and the poem. Best wishes, — Diannaa (talk) 03:24, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!
	Hi Diannaa, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. May your heart and home be filled with all of the joys the festive season brings. Here is a toast to a Merry Christmas and prosperous New Year!. scope_creepTalk 11:42, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Natalis soli invicto!

		Natalis soli invicto!
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:37, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

	Season's greetings!
	I hope this holiday season is festive and fulfilling and filled with love and kindness, and that 2021 will be safe, successful and rewarding...keep hope alive....Modernist (talk) 15:12, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the cheery greeting. I am half-sick of shadows, said the Lady of Shalott.— Diannaa (talk) 15:14, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:The Faraday Institution

I'm watching the halting development of that draft, and it looks like some very unfortunate chemical engineering major is interning at the Institute and got saddled with the job of writing their article because he had edited WP at some point or perhaps had Web dev experience. He is plodding along (in misery, I suspect), and has yet to be admitted to whatever archives they may have, or, it seems, to have spoken with their (official or unofficial) Institute historian (as the offspring of a chemical engineer, I get this).

I've just dropped a bunch of suggestions on his Talk, but, if he only wants to be a lonely Sisyphus and does not collaborate with me anyone, I guess the article will be whatever he makes of it, either a collection of what they say about themselves or a draft forever. I'm not that ambitious to go to the Institute and ask for scans, etc. should he "finish" or give up at some point. I live in USA. Sorry, had to vent!--Quisqualis (talk) 21:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Hope you are feeling better now! Best wishes, — Diannaa (talk) 02:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Regarding attribution on Wikipedia

To Diannaa,

Thank you for informing me about the need for attribution on Wikipedia. I sincerely did not know about this procedure, and I will amend my prior edit on the Rothschild family to account for this. I will also do so with future edits that I make on Wikipedia. Leiwang7 (talk) 07:12, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

"Incorrect punctuation" and numerophobia

Why do you think that the comma was "incorrect". As I understand, that clause is non-restrictive and thus must be preceded by a comma, otherwise is has a different meaning. Your "fix run-on sentence" also looks strange to me, since it contradicts MOS:NUMNOTES, which says that related numbers "should be both written in words or both in figures" and actually gives There were many matches; 23 ended in a draw. as a recommended example. — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

1. Adding the comma changes the meaning to imply that all members of Czechoslovakia's army-in-exile had been trained in special ops. Only these few who were sent to kill Heydrich were so trained. Hence I removed the comma.
2. Since I split the run-on sentence back into two separate sentences, I changed the numeral back to prose, to comply with MOS:NUMNOTES, which states "Avoid beginning a sentence with a figure."— Diannaa (talk) 17:40, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
3. Implying that I have a phobia is not appropriate.— Diannaa (talk) 17:40, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

1. No, the comma does not imply that. It just means that these people were members of Czechoslovakia's army-in-exile and that they were trained in special ops. Both of these are non-restrictive clauses (can be removed from the sentence without changing its meaning) and both are related to "Jozef Gabčík and Jan Kubiš" rather than to each other, as it appears without the comma.

2, 3. "Phobia" is about the whole idea of avoiding numbers written in numerals, please don't take it personally. I see that you rewrote that part, replacing "300" by "several hundred" with a reference to "Evans 2008 page 289". Could you please show here a quote, what he really writes there? (I've found only partially accessible copy, but it has no page numbers, and I could not find the relevant excerpt by searching for some likely keywords.) — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 18:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy to do so. Taking it up in the middle of the paragraph. Some were killed in the minefield outside the fence but more than 300 out of a total of 600 inmates succeeded in breaking out of the camp (all those who did not succeed were shot the following day). 100 of the escapees were caught and killed almost immediately as the SS and police mobilized a large search operation including spotter planes. But the rest eluded capture, and a number of them eventually found their way to partisan units.

— Diannaa (talk) 19:48, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

References

Why was the page deleted?

Why was this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chamkaur

deleted? Your Log indicates copyright violation of the page https://www.rarebooksocietyofindia.org/postDetail.php?id=196174216674_10154207347961675

But in actuality this page did not contain such content that someone would delete the page? Refer to the wayback: https://web.archive.org/web/20170318123353/https://www.rarebooksocietyofindia.org/postDetail.php?id=196174216674_10154207347961675

Requesting to undelete the page. bandukia (talk) 04:57, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

The material you claim was copied, says that it copied its content from Wikipedia, so deletion of the Wikipedia page is almost certainly in error. I suggest that you reverse the deletion of Battle of Chamkaur. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:24, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

To add more context to this, Zafarnama for which there is claim of copyright was a letter written by Guru Gobind Singh who was key participant in the Battle of Chamkaur wrote letter to Aurangzeb, the letter is freely available Zafarnama-archive, here as well freely available as part of Sikh Heritage and cannot have copyright claim by any one person / organisation. Please accept the undelete requests. Zereraz (talk) 12:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

I have restored the page. Sorry for the mistake.— Diannaa (talk) 12:42, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

References

Thank you so much for restoring it 🙏 Zereraz (talk) 16:40, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that, there were a lot of lobbyists at WP:REFUND!. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:09, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

It was a careless mistake on my part - there were a lot of battle-of-this and battle-of-that new articles (copied from Sikh Wiki and elsewhere) that were in the copypatrol feed that day, and I just didn't look at this one carefully enough!— Diannaa (talk) 23:17, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Diannaa, in addition to the page you've already restored (thank you for doing so), there were pages on wikipedia separately describing 2 battles that took place in Chamkaur 2 years apart in 1702 and 1704. These have both also been deleted, I think in error. The pages were called "First Battle of Chamkaur (1702)" and "Second Battle of Chamkaur (1704)". The links to the wiki pages are also visible on the page "List of battles involving the Sikh Empire". The separate pages for the first and second battles both say that they were deleted by yourself on 27 Dec at 1.35am. Could you please also restore both of these pages as I assume the same copyright issue does not apply here. Thanks so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:7717:8F00:9DEE:3920:1C08:8E74 (talk) 20:19, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

These were both redirects, not articles per se. Regardless, I have restored them. Thanks for letting me know. — Diannaa (talk) 20:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

COI questions

Hi Diannaa, do you know of an admin or sysop who specializes in COI and company self-promotion? I'm concerned that a particular notable person and/or his companies are enhanced in self-promotion for several years but I really don't have the time or knowledge to pursue this myself. This is really something the WMF should be handling itself, and perhaps they do. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 21:45, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know the answer to this question. Hopefully a talk page watcher can offer suggestions— Diannaa (talk) 22:43, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

MER-C might be able to help. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Pancha Kashmiri Takiya Masjid

Hello, I appreciate your effort for keeping eye on copyrights.

In the page Pancha Kashmiri Takiya Masjid, you deleted two histories. But, the material used is in Public Domain [bura.brunel.ac.uk/bitstream/2438/5288/1/FulltextThesis.pdf] and reference has been appropriately provided in the edit. Could you explain why you deleted the edites?

Happy editing!

nirmal (talk) 01:02, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Why do you believe that thesis is in the public domain?— Diannaa (talk) 01:21, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Convenience Store Woman

Hi Diannaa. While browsing I came across the article Convenience Store Woman with an external link to Archive.org that contains a complete copy of this book. The edit it was added is this one. In Archive.org it's tagged as OpenSource but I'm 110% certain that this has not been released open source and is very much a popular commercial publication still today. Looking further I noticed the external link was added to the article on the very same say it was added to Archive.org, by a user with multiple copyright warnings on their talk page. The user in question seems to have a history of adding things as external links the same day they're added to Archive.org and seem to be using it to bypass copyright restrictions as evidenced here as well, again uploaded the same day as the Wikipedia link is added. It is my belief that this should be A) removed as a link and B) revdelled. I did delete the link but another editor reinstated it (with a bogus summary but that's not relevant.) In your views should this be removed and revdelled? Thanks for your time and hope you're having a good holiday season. Canterbury Tail talk 14:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

The external link (and others like it) should be removed, as it is contributory copyright infringement. The book enjoys copyright protection, according to the version available on Google view (Google too may be violating copyrights as well - perhaps they have permission?). Our revision deletion policy does allow such edits to be rev-deleted, but I myself have never done so.— Diannaa (talk) 14:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay thank you for your insight, always appreciated. I'll also keep an eye on that user in future as this seems to be a pattern with their edits. Again thanks. Canterbury Tail talk 15:13, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible copyvio

Hi Diannaa. I hope you're having a nice holiday season. Would you mind taking a look at Rico Mascariñas#RP's Mascariñas Shine in Singapore Chess Open? I think this might just be a good-faith misunderstanding, but it's still a clear copyvio nonetheless. I wasn't able to find the original source online, but did find the article copied-and-pasted to another website PeoplePill, but that website is WP:BLACKLISTed by Wikipedia. If you search "RP's Mascariñas Shine in Singapore Chess Open" you should find it. I didn't want to create any more diffs to cleanup; so, I just tagged it as a copyvio and left it for review. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:00, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi MarchJuly - all is well here! PeoplePill shows a byline of "Marlon Bernardino, National Master, Special to PhilBoxing.com, 11 October 2005" so while they are not the copyright holders of the wee article, we have to assume that it is a faithful reproduction. So I will remove it. Thanks for the report.— Diannaa (talk) 23:10, 29 December 2020 (UTC) Changed my mind - let's give the primary contributor their week to attempt a re-write if they so desire. Since it's going to more or less destroy the article to extract the copyvio.— Diannaa (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I left a note about this on the editor's user talk page at User talk:Obetpaguia#Copyright problem: Rico Mascariñas . If I got some of the basics wrong, please feel free to correct what I posted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:22, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio on Wangechi Mutu

Hello! The above page is looking particularly troublesome in terms of copyvio. Earwig here. Part of this book is a direct match, for example. Possibly (talk) 04:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

We already had that content in 2016 when the book came out. It looks like it's a blurb prepared by a publicist. Both likely were supplied by same. This page was never archived by the Wayback Machine so I can't say who had it first.— Diannaa (talk) 10:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Possible copyvios, certainly spamming

Hi Diannaa, Special:Contributions/Akel_iJET has added several pastes from a website that they appear to represent, particularly to Aviation fuel and Flight permit. I don't see a copyright notice on the linked site, but wanted to report it anyway just in case it needed to be deleted anyway. I've also reported the username to UAA. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 06:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

All fixed. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 10:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

And thank you. BilCat (talk) 11:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Copyvios

I noticed you removed copyrighted content yesterday from spotted salamander. The same user has added content back to that page directly copied from Animal Diversity Web. This same user has added content from ADW to striped newt and CABI to Cichla ocellaris. I would appreciate your help. Fredlyfish4 (talk) 12:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Cleanup complete and user blocked. Thank you for the report.— Diannaa (talk) 15:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Diannaa!

Happy New Year!

Diannaa,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:42, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Thank you! Same to you!— Diannaa (talk) 15:47, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

User:JustForEditingArticles

Happy 2021, Diannaa! Please take a look at the contributions of this new user, who has already spammed an apparent copyvio photo into at least four articles regarding Indian cinema and culture. Much obliged; thank you so much for all your work! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 17:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

There's nothing further to be done at this point; the photo is slated for deletion on the Commons and the user has been warned. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 21:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

My End of Year Wikilove

		The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
		On this day I would like to say thank you for all that you're doing on Copyright. Happy New year! Em-em talk 20:11, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks— Diannaa (talk) 21:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)