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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

4 Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4 D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rev-dels

Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Romania

I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And all I got was a ^^^

El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. Thanks, Gerda!

El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have

Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's corner

To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for tagging me, El_C!

Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it!

It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him.

PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's February corner

Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yay for Green Opa! This made my day!

El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Till 120! El_C 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Birds of a feather

External videos
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)

Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Helleborus orientalis

happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR

@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Us

User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)

"You See Far, You See Clear"

"Us"

"I Want Us To Be Realized"

"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"

"You Put My Hand In Yours"

"A Place Of Worry"

What Is Love?

"How Is It That A Star"

"A Love Song (Like A Wheel)"

"Sitting On The Fence"

"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"

Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda loves subsections!

Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems.

Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Innisfree Garden

Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".

I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guess what, ~~BWV 1 and~~ BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.

Did you know ...

... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?

(17 February 2021)

One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Play Bach

How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Saragarhi

Hi El_C, hope you're doing well. Would you like to reinstate semi-protection at the Battle of Saragarhi article now that the full protection has expired? DanCherek (talk) 13:53, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Dan. Doing good, thanks. And thanks for the reminder. Nice to see you. Don't be a stranger! El_C 14:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm enjoying the songs. DJ El_C FTW. DanCherek (talk) 14:39, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

♫Yay!♫

The future's so shade, I gotta wear bright! El_C 14:49, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive Editing in the Baidya

Hello El C.I am sorry to bother You.An user named Advaita222 is involved in edit war in the Baidya page.In spite of my invitation to talk page,He is continuously reverting the consensus version.The version was approved by one of our Senior editors Ekdalian ckeck it here.I have warned him.Can You please help me to handle this.Thanks.Regards.Abhishek Sengupta 24 (talk) 14:21, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Abhishek Sengupta 24. Sorry, but as is noted above (in large text), I'm not really accepting out-the-blue requests at this time. Maybe post about it at WP:AN3...? Good luck! El_C 14:31, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your prompt reply.It's really helpful. Abhishek Sengupta 24 (talk) 14:54, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ARCA archiving

Hello. A while back you were asking for a archive of WP:ARCA requests. Although it is not complete and will still take a few weeks for me to finish, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Clarification and Amendment requests is an index of all clarification and amendment requests excluding requests moved elsewhere (such as to AE) or requests removed without consideration by the arbitrators. It contains the a link to case or decision affected, a permalink to the request, the date the request was opened, the date the request was closed, and finally relevant links which is currently only permalinks to any enacted motion in the request. Hopefully this is useful. As it's currently being worked on it's not yet linked to from other places, but I plan to un-orphan the page once all entries are backfilled. After the index is complete there may be other improvements made to the archiving process for ARCA requests. Hope this index is useful. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:31, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great work, Dreamy Jazz! Looking good. Mucho apreciado. El_C 03:14, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Protection request

Hi El C, can you indef ECP Isaac Herzog? He's the president of Israel, WP:A/I/PIA really should be applied. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 05:14, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I was hoping Yehoram Gaon would win, but he withdrew, if recall correctly as soon as Bougie entered the race.

Anyway, rarely if ever do I preemptively protect pages, DS/GS or otherwise —I think the last one was Jewish space lasers (Pew-Pew!)— and I don't really see anything that gives me serious pause for Herzog's page right now (possibly I missed it). Regards, El_C 08:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

15:09

The sig says 15:08 but the edit history says 15:09 so.... Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:15, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El_C 15:19, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - ANI

I'd completely forgotten about the paid editor making a complaint. There are plenty of other reviewers who will handle their future submissions. I don't check who the creating editor is when I make a review, though. I just look at quality of the draft. I imagine they would like their payment. That tends to mean they must do their work well enough for articles to be accepted.

On the rare occasions I get dragged to ANI I tend to let my edits speak for themselves. There is little point in mounting a defence because the defence is already present in the history concerned, and folk will make whatever judgements they choose, as is their right. It is also the right fo any editor who feels the need to take any other editor there. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 06:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Letting your edits speak for themselves... Ah, an optimist, I see. I respect that. El_C 12:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Generally anything one says makes it better in a negative manner. Rather like the Streisand effect I also note the words of Queen Gertrude which can work against any party im these discussions 👀😈🤪 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 12:38, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ricky Schroder

I would like to ask that you restore the original version of the article without the added category. User:Jaydoggmarco added the Category:Anti-vaccination activists to the article on June 16th as shown on this revision. [[3]] It was reverted several times by other editors and IPs before I stepped in and gave my two cents. It was fine for over a month before Jaydoggmarco (who has been wikihounding me for basically his entire edit history since early June [[4]]) decides to revert it again. Of course since contentious changes such as that must be discussed first on the talk page as opposed to just adding them and reverting, I opened up a discussion. It went unanswered until yesterday, despite my constantly explaining I wanted to discuss. Calton stated "nobody works for you" and reverted without adding anything to the discussion section. [[5]] I feel that it is appropriate to have the original version of the article prior to the change be the version that is protected, at least until a consensus can be reached. Thank you for taking the time to read this.TJD2 (talk) 06:55, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While in the case of Ricky Schroder, this seems like more of a m:Wrong version matter than an outright WP:BLP vio, it may be worthwhile to bring the broader dispute to wider review at WP:ANI or WP:BLPN — sorry, but I'm not available to attend to it single-handedly at this time. Good luck! El_C 12:24, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Something is going on L. Murugan page, seems to be a heavy vandalism, maybe protection for the page is needed for few days, please look into this matter Nahtrav (talk) 12:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please post protection requests at WP:RFPP. Sorry, but I'm not really taking out-the-blue requests at this time. Good luck! El_C 12:32, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Covid-19 and Covid-19 Pandemic.

I believe On both Covid 19 and Covid 19 Pandemic articles that extended confirmed protection is not necessary. Natadmim (talk) 14:36, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Whereas I feel it is necessary, so... anything you wish to add? El_C 14:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lavash

Dear @El C, would you mind giving your input as a third party on Talk:Lavash#Recent revert page? We have a dispute with regard to which wording is more appropriate. The editor I'm having a dispute with, @Wikaviani, also pinged two other editors for third opinion. There's also a need to clarify whether pinging an editor who gave you a barnstar would breach WP:CANVASSING and WP:THIRD. The second editor they pinged tries to convince me it doesn't, but I'm not sure. Thanks in advance. Best regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 08:43, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ZaniGiovanni, funny that you've come to me, seeing that Wikaviani has given me a barnstar — Pepperidge Farm remembers (++topical!). Anyway, probably not CANVASSING (though using the WP:3O mechanism would have been better), still, full disclosure: I did indefinitely block Visioncurve a year ago for legal threats (lifted, withdrawn), and I do think Kansas Bear is awesome. Anyway, at this stage, probably best to just launch a full WP:RFC about this, during which the longstanding version should display, with reversions of the contending version back strongly discouraged throughout that time. I'll WP:AA2-tag the page, but otherwise hopefully, this will suffice. Regards, El_C 12:26, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's actually funny. I asked you for a third opinion cause of your previous/current involvement with the wikiscopes, and I thought it would be an objective/neutral choice for everyone since you've also blocked me previously, and I have interacted with you only 2 times I think. I really don't know the other editors involved and didn't comment on them, just the decision of Wikaviani to selectively ping editors they have been known/involved with previously.

Thanks a lot for your input. Best wishes, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 13:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ZaniGiovanni, no problem, but what do you mean by "wikiscopes"? I'm unable to recall what (who?) that is. Anyway, I'll emphasize that the point about CANVASS is whether the user/s in question can be seen to already be leaning toward one position over another as it pertains to the given dispute. Regards, El_C 13:33, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I meant the WikiProjects that the article falls under. Probably cause of my limited experience that I used the wrong term. Cheers, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 13:38, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In fairness (to me!), ZaniGiovanni, when it comes to the topic areas listed at T:DSA, I'm kinda everywhere. El_C 13:45, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's actually really nice. To be honest, after you blocked me, I tried to broaden my editing areas and I learned quite a lot actually. So in a sense, I look at it as a learning/improving part on my wikipedia journey. Regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 13:50, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. That's always the hope, ZaniGiovanni, so I'm pleased to hear that. El_C 15:10, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the compliment El C, not sure what I have done to deserve it. I guess Wikaviani's ping did not work, seeing how I did not receive a notice. As for Lavash, meh, I see reliable sources stating both origins, no need to give undue weight to one or the other.
PS:Has ZaniGiovanni been notified of AA2 sanctions on their talk page? I see that after coming off a one week block their first edit was to make a revert on an AA2 article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kansas Bear, watch it, modesty is grounds for sanctions! In answer to your question, it looks like, yes, on March 12. El_C 17:44, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. That is ok. I have already self-sanctioned myself from most domestic and American politics articles! --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:05, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Kansas Bear. To my defense, at the time I just created my account if I remember correctly, and shortly after that, it was blocked (I probably missed the message, and to be frank, I wouldn't have even understood the significance of it at that time if I noticed). I would say it was a very novice mistake on my part 4 months ago (if I did anything wrong). Feel free to ping my account if you need any clarifications.

Ps: I still might not fully understand the sanctions part of AA articles, could you or @El C please elaborate further so I won't repeat any mistakes (was I not allowed to revert after the block cause of the sanctions)? Regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 18:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ZaniGiovanni, I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're asking me exactly. I no longer have a firm recollection of your block, if it's about that. El_C 21:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No worries @El C. Reading it now, I don't quite understand what I wanted to ask either (: Cheers, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 22:18, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		I have been editing Wikipedia since 2007 and this discussion closure may have been the most inspiring and beautiful thing I have ever seen. BOTTO_(T•C) 23:54, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Botto, what a nice thing to say. Thank you for your kindness — again (above), the cascade begins with a spark! El_C 01:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of That Vegan Teacher

Hi, it seems since your protection of That Vegan Teacher expired a few days ago, the number of vandalism incidents has increased again. Could you have another look whether protection is needed per WP:BLP? Thanks --hroest 14:56, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected for a period of one year, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 15:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"beefing up protection"

I do, in fact, see what you did there. ;) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 17:58, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chef Tony, can I have a bite? Oh. El_C 18:55, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict...please fill out my survey?

Hello :) I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.

For more information, you can check out my meta-wiki research page or my user page, where I will be posting my findings when I am done.

I would greatly appreciate if you could take 5 minutes to fill out this quick survey before 8 August 2021.

Participation in this survey is entirely voluntary and anonymous. There are no foreseeable risks nor benefits to you associated with this project.

Thanks so much,

Sarah Sanbar

Sarabnas ^{I'm researching Wikipedia} _Questions? 20:19, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Malhun Hatun at WP:RfPP

Ok, maybe I was exaggerating with many, I had just become weary of all the disruption. Thanks for the protection anyways. IronManCap (talk) 21:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, all good. El_C 02:37, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

s1mple

This made me laugh--thanks for the help. Alyo (chat·edits) 23:09, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, I'm like GuardiaN with a TMP... (Remember the TMP? Pepperidge Farm remembers.) El_C 02:37, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I need an opinion

Hi El C, how have you been? I need you to give an opinion, if/when time permits. I asked on June 14 @Joy: on their talk page to give me an opinion about or help to deal with a disruptive editor. Joy did not respond. Yesterday you blocked that disruptive editor indefinitely. Since Joy did not react at all to my post on their talk page, I removed it [6]. I wrote in the edit summary "Indefinitely blocked by an admin. When someone asks for sth, the most humane and civilized way is to respond, even with a simple "I cant help". Joy insists that I insulted him, though I told him that I was not saying that Joy is not humane or civilized, and that I did not want to insult him. What I meant with the edit summary is that when someone asks your for sth, the most humane and and civilized thing to do is to not ignore, but to give a response (even a "I can't help you"). I also told him I know he is not obliged to help me. However, Joy insists that I should learn English and that I insulted him. I ask you as an experienced admin who has given help to both Joy and myself: should my edit summary be seen as an insult to Joy? If so, can the edit summary be deleted? Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:25, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, Ktrimi991, Joy is free to ignore (or overlook, whatever) anything they see fit. You have no right to question that (inaction) in any way whatsoever. El_C 18:30, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as I said, I know that Joy is free to ignore anything. Wiki is volunteer work. Was my edit summary an insult, and if so, can it be deleted? Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:33, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'd be insulted if I were they. No, it does not need to be deleted. El_C 18:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, my bad then. Joy should not feel insulted though, because my not-so-thought-out edit summary was not intented to insult. What would I gain if I insulted? My reaction was due to being entirely ignored, sth that although entirely allowed on Wiki, might create irritation to those being ignored. In any case, it was the first interaction between us, and apparently the last - out topics of interest seem to not be the same. Btw, El C thanks for dealing with the disruptive editor [7]. Your job is always very much appreciated :) Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:54, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A final note on Joy's claim that I need to learn English before I try to edit Wiki. Firstly, I have been on enwiki for some 5 years. Secondly, although my English is far from perfect, it has been good enough to allow me to talk as equal with important people, including at meetings and events organized by the EU, UN and NATO - including some Croats whose Wiki articles Joy edits. How do I manage to interact with other people in such cases? English is important, and even more important are human values such as responsiveness, mutual respect, will to help and collaboration. They are values that never go out of fashion. El C, thanks again for your input here on my dispute with Joy, and for dealing with disruptive Balkan editors. You are one of the very few willing and able to help to make Balkan topics a better thing. Cheers to both, Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:40, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El C, I will be away from Wiki until August 5 (or maybe later). Is there anything I can do to prevent bots from posting on my talk page? Ktrimi991 (talk) 06:44, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. El_C 17:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ANI complaint

Hi. I have a question for you. I don't think the ANI complaint by Fram is justified or should to me being indefed. Since it's clearly retaliation because I wouldn't answer him how and when he wanted me to. Nothing I have done that led to this or the last complaint has been anywhere on par of the behavior that caused the original block either. I've made a lot of progress since then. It's obvious people just want to get me blocked though and I was planning on appealing if I get indefed.

That said, I do feel like I could use a break from this for my own mental health. The general level of toxicity I've been dealing with lately and things going on IRL have been causing me some hardcore anxiety that I just can't be 100% solid due to right now. And I realize I'm going to keep having issues if I'm not able to be 100% solid about things. So I wanted to propose a six month block to cool down, reflect on what led to this, and work on my IRL issues. Realistically, even if the ANI complaint doesn't lead to an indef I still want to step away for a while and cool down. So is there a way to propose a six month block or have it happen without it seeming like I'm trying to weasel out of a permanent block or bludging the process? --Adamant1 (talk) 08:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adamant1, I'm not familiar with that thread or any related one/s, so I'm unable to comment on it right now, one way or the other. Regards, El_C 09:25, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Adamant1 (talk) 09:28, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hyatt Regency walkway collapse

Not trying to be mean, but did you really need to fully protect Hyatt Regency walkway collapse? Why were you so quick to press the 'fully protect' button when extended confirmed lock or auto-confirmed lock would've been much better to use? I know it's an edit war.. but it's literally just mainly IPs.. and it's not a BLP article or a very pressing issue. I fail to see why a full protect is needed here. wizzito | say hello! 22:27, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wizzito, I don't favour extended-confirmed users over IPs in an edit war, and I think it isn't to your credit that you do. El_C 22:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El_C Sorry, I didn't know too much about the situation at the time; I'm still amazed about the length of the lock in general, though (really, a week?). Preventing 99% of active users from editing one page over a few edit warring users just seems ridiculous in my personal opinion, though. wizzito | say hello! 22:53, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anything else? El_C 22:56, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nope; have a nice day (not saying that to be mean) wizzito | say hello! 22:57, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A pleasure, I'm sure. El_C 22:58, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

We edit conflicted before your ping.

~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Twice twice, that's a fractal! //Chugs beer. (What, it's beer-o'clock somewhere/everywhere...) El_C 14:17, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Heh! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:22, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, another one now. The admin-spamming on that page is unrelenting! El_C 14:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cleveland Indians

Talk:Cleveland Guardians got separated from Cleveland Indians. Cards84664 14:21, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On it. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:23, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

😂 I'm out for today! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, thank you. We're here all week! El_C 14:27, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian_politics. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian_politics/Evidence. Please add your evidence by August 6, 2021, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian_politics/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 18:41, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WaPo op-eds

I noticed that their op-eds are really not on par with their news, but there likely are other sources, —Paleo Neonate – 07:59, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On the same token, since this makes both the US and China look bad, maybe it'll get buried...? I guess we'll see. Excerpt, because paywall'ing-it-up, apparently super-important for Bezo$:

The institute was carrying out experiments using chimeric viruses with modified spike proteins, tested on mice with respiratory cells genetically altered to resemble those of humans. The goal was to see which were more infective. These experiments were written into grant applications, including for U.S. funds; the research began in 2014-2015 and was underway at the institute through 2019. The work was not done in the highest biosecurity level laboratory. (from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/23/china-is-stepping-up-its-deception-denial-investigations-covid-19/)

El_C 08:05, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No idea, I have various hypotheses but would only be speculating. These are experiments plausible in level-4 labs over the world for medicine research. But also, better sources should be found, that's an op-ed and I've seen various suboptimal ones at WaPo (see "opinions" in the URL and "Opinion by the Editorial Board"). It's marked as such because it's not official WaPo news, —Paleo Neonate – 08:22, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly not gonna be an easy feat with China purposefully obstructing to the utmost, including by spreading disinformation that it came from a U.S. military laboratory. I doubt the Washington Post editorial board is that easy to fool, but maybe...? They certainly do not seem to be as science-silly as certain other editorial boards of major newspapers that also start with the letter W. As for the US funding angle, I suppose we'll see whether the Biden admin's appetite for investigating COVID's origins will extend to when Biden, himself, was VP... El_C 10:09, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If the insinuation of that piece is that gain of function research involving chimeric viruses at WIV possibly created SARS-CoV-2, then I believe that is incorrect. SARS-CoV-2 is a mosaic virus, it cannot be created with chimeric virus techniques. Too bad the topic is so complicated. It makes the spreading of misinformation easier. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:31, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't an area with which I'm familiar enough to comment further on. Nor, for that matter, am I able verify your own assertion or to what extent it aligns or misaligns with that piece. But what I do know about is China's resistance toward investigating the origin of the virus, coupled with their own disinformation efforts. That, at least, is rather firmly in the public record. And it is highly suspect, I challenge. El_C 13:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect this might be more directly relevant to COVID-19 misinformation by China than to COVID-19 lab leak hypothesis. Particularly as the rationale I most commonly see for the COVID-19 lab leak hypothesis article is that it is a valid scientific theory, which I have generally interpreted to imply we should prefer (if not outright require) sources that meet the higher threshold for WP:SCHOLARSHIP. If not, I worry we're just opening a backdoor to borderline WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE/WP:RGW if we say "it's science, but there's a conspiracy to keep it out of scientific journals". This was where I was going with the question on AR/E, this is the kind of edge case which relates closely to the content dispute about sourcing (which led to the later editing dispute). So I was curious if you had some insight or recommendations on the souring question, or just found it to be a curiosity for future speculation. Bakkster Man (talk) 14:14, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bakkster Man, you may refer to my statement in the arbitration case which, in part, pointed to my aversion against using MEDRS as a blunt instrument for suppressing the social and political history of the pandemic. El_C 14:46, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When a pathogen is leaking from a lab (there were many such incidents), this has nothing to do with science. This can not be established from the sequence analysis, etc. This is a simple fact to be established by investigators (who are acting more like detectives). This whole thing so far is political to such degree that China imposed economic sanctions on Australia merely for suggesting that it needs to be investigated [8]. What they hide must be huge. My very best wishes (talk) 15:18, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. These Chinese intimidation tactics are very much to their discredit. My sense is that it's more a matter of national esteem (and probably more at home than abroad), than the potential hit of worldwide reparations, which they can probably afford without their economy being crippled. I don't think the US, even with all of its renewed stance toward not losing global economic supremacy, would want that — which is to say, neither the former Trump nor current Biden admins would. (Obvious aside point is that if Biden does end up FDR'ing-it-up, the American economy would stand a fighting chance.)

Again, if this is a revelation of note, there's still no way to tell about the US funding, its import, purpose, etc. It's all speculative at this point. But it would be pretty ironic if the US were to deem any investigation into that (or at least its broad strokes) as classified. But getting well ahead of myself. I hope the record reflects that engaging in the counter-factual is an indulgence I rarely allow myself. El_C 15:41, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And it is classified [9], which is a disgrace. From what I read, they suppose to have a lot of highly damaging materials on Putin, his friends and other strongmen, but all of that is classified (including White House records of talks by D. Trump). By keeping such things secret US enables all these dictators. My very best wishes (talk) 15:56, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh shit! El_C 16:02, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: You're the second person I've seen suggest that I'm looking to apply MEDRS scrutiny. I'm uncertain where this impression came from, some help would be appreciated if you can point me to where this misunderstanding may have started. I've cited the very lightest-touch of our science-related sourcing requirements: WP:PREPRINTS. As I'm sure you can imagine, this ends up feeling like I need to defend against a strawman (unintentional or otherwise).

I don't expect AR/E to be the right venue to solve this question, perhaps you can recommend a better venue that could help to provide a path towards a consensus on sourcing when we run into this issue (which has happened multiple times), where we have a scientific claim made with generally-unreliable sourcing repeated in generally-reliable press with minimal critical review of the claim itself. Since we can't rely on WP:MEDPOP for these topics, it would be nice to have at least some wider agreement on how we handle these types of claims. Bakkster Man (talk) 15:44, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bakkster Man, I think the best venue would be WP:RSN (by way of WP:CENT). El_C 15:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the recommendation. Would you suggest waiting for the AR/E case to close first, or begin discussion there and link in AR/E and related articles when ready? Bakkster Man (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Editing rights revoked?

Can you please tell me why my editing rights are invoked for the article List of converts to Islam from Hinduism? You can read about my edits here. --Bringtar (talk) 12:54, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I neither revoked nor invoked your editing rights, Bringtar. El_C 13:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my mistake. You actually protected the page so I am no longer able to edit it. --Bringtar (talk) 13:30, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July corner

Last year's flowers match the image on the user page nicely, see? - DYK that her last reply to me was in a thread Green for hope? - The DYK set for Yoninah will appear tomorrow, including Psalm 85, with the kiss of justice and peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Gerda. It means a lot. El_C 13:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help us to the Hebrew for Psalm 123? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Got it: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Quality_Article_Improvement/Psalms#123. El_C 20:04, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I must have saved an old version - and didn't notice. Restored, I hope. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy again!

El_C 20:10, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relief! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

sad to wake up to see that brave Uses x gone --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Same. I fucked up the count and now it's... shit. El_C 14:27, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shit happens. Music happens. On the Main page now: "my" school. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Big applause! 👏 El_C 15:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I didn't perform, just listened, applauded and took a few applause pics, the cutest not published because she whirled too much. - Can you please perform your magic for Psalm 7? I have no idea what the article says, about literature use and arrows. Do you understand that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. No, I don't understand it, nor do I get why a sermon would be called "literature." Pretty weird. Nice, glad the music soared. El_C 01:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for looking, - much of it will go then, but I'm behind with many things because the music soared for too long ;) - Do you know it? A duet says "O namenlose Freude" - O joy beyond words, and a quartet "Mir ist - so wun- - derbar" - no idea how to translate, and the four have VERY different outlooks, with the same melody. (A girl falling in love with a woman disguised as a man, girl's father and young man who hoped to marry her until this happened.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't know it, but sounds interesting. About 7, I'm gonna change the weird "literature" subheading, at the very least. Will do so mmentarily. El_C 11:39, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine! - More music: 2 songs, the morning song - about rising from being down, in more than one sense - is a GA, - there should be more given my initials, but I also want to care for articles of those who recently died (now Esther Béjarano). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:45, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I remember reading about Esther Béjarano's passing in the Israeli press. *** Nice! But what is this? A songspam competition? Because I'd be winning (well, spam-wise, at least!). El_C 16:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you add from Hebrew obits? - Go win, I just found it funny that - after a long pause - 2 songs were on DYK the same day. With Yoninah at her desk, that would not have happened ;) - Translation competition perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:57, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there's nothing too noteworthy that I've seen in Israeli media (just quickly checked now), be it in Hebrew or English, that significantly adds to what's was already written about her in the existing cited sources... El_C 17:06, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for looking. Did you know that Vivaldi composed cello sonatas? I didn't until I took the pic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, didn't know, either, and I consider myself a fan. Again, I just love the look and feel of St. Martin, Idstein... El_C 21:37, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Choir to be resumed there, in three groups of equal voices, after vacation. - moar music, a new song about a feast - a dear family member remembered today when she would have been 122 - the next psalm on our program is Psalm 68 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't know how I missed that. Annoying. Bumping the Corner. Anyway, now done. El_C 15:17, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Destiny

See also: User:El C/Songs from new lands

A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oceanic feeling

Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics:

(Intro)

Somehow I found myself here today

Awakened to these thoughts and feelings

Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming?

A strange sort of spherical sensation

With an overwhelming sense of apprehension

An emptiness that thunders out

From beyond the mind's horizon

So far beyond our reach

Where consciousness coalesces

Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds

The streaming runs of thought goes

'Round and 'round and 'round

Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down

And the earth bows down in reverence

Lest it should be torn to pieces

And blown into oblivi-essence

And all who live will run and hide

And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time

Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of

One's own mind

But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge

Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind

You'll find that everyone is everyone

And everything is everything

(Verse one)

Open up

Your hearts and minds

'Cause I remember

Nothing

One day now

It all falls down

But love must keep on

Loving

So start the show

Here we go

(Chorus)

Dark to light

The day from night

A roll of a mountain

A rip in the sky

Turning the dust to flesh

And ashes to breath

A pull of a muscle

A pin in the eye

An initial spark

To get this heart of mine pumping

And another

To get these feet of mine running

But sadly they've just taken me

To a place

Where all is devoid

Of your embrace

So baby now we're falling

Baby now you're falling

Baby yeah, yeah

Baby now we're falling, baby yeah

Tripping and tumbling

Flipping and fumbling

Flowing on the rivers of sadness

That have been forever rumbling

But from dawn until now

Of all the paths that I could have gone down

Of all the valleys

That I could have been flowing through

In spite of all the chaos

And all that has come between us

How is it I still find myself

Here with you

(Outro)

So somehow we find ourselves here today

A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming

A strange sort of spherical sensation

An emptiness that thunders out

From beyond the mind's horizon

And all of us, we run and hide

Do what we've done since the dawn of time

Peering out through the beating rain

The pounding wind

Everyone is everyone

And everything is everything

Serrado. El_C 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Memories of Spain

Tomatito & Michel Camilo (2000)

Hooni (2012)

Olivier Castellat (2010)

Stevie Wonder (2008 live)

Gary Valenciano (2017 vocals)

Chick Corea and Return to Forever (1973 original) / Live performance (date unknown, but laterer)

El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resting: a compilation

Flite — El_C 10:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Void — El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WhipTail — El_C 10:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Posição — El_C 10:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel Free — El_C 02:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On Sight — El_C 10:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The return of Remix surfing

Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Golden — El_C 09:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mozalounge — El_C 20:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorrow — El_C 13:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be With You — El_C 14:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everybody Knows — El_C 10:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfly — El_C 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guilty Pleasure — El_C 09:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Bossa — El_C 15:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legend — El_C 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Who — El_C 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Losing My Way ^{London (2019)} — El_C 15:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Forever — El_C 16:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Brother to Brother — El_C 01:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'Round Midnight — El_C 06:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Close Your Eyes — El_C 18:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Whipping Post→Mountain Jam — El_C 23:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Into the Sun — El_C 14:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April — El_C 14:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, everyone, I will not be accepting any new requests for the immediate moment. In the meantime, enjoy the music! (Also here) El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::::::::I don't expect AR/E to be the right venue to solve this question, perhaps you can recommend a better venue that could help to provide a path towards a consensus on sourcing when we run into this issue (which has happened multiple times), where we have a scientific claim made with generally-unreliable sourcing repeated in generally-reliable press with minimal critical review of the claim itself. Since we can't rely on [[WP:MEDPOP]] for these topics, it would be nice to have at least some wider agreement on how we handle these types of claims. [[User:Bakkster Man|Bakkster Man]] ([[User talk:Bakkster Man|talk]]) 15:44, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 :::::::::[[User:Bakkster Man|Bakkster Man]], I think the best venue would be [[WP:RSN]] (by way of [[WP:CENT]]). [[User:El_C|El_C]] 15:49, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
+::::::::::Appreciate the recommendation. Would you suggest waiting for the AR/E case to close first, or begin discussion there and link in AR/E and related articles when ready? [[User:Bakkster Man|Bakkster Man]] ([[User talk:Bakkster Man|talk]]) 16:13, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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