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You should run for crat. --<span style="font-family:'Tahoma',Geneva,sans-serif">[[User:QEDK|<span style="color:#93f">QEDK</span>]] <small>([[User talk:QEDK|<span style="color:#c60">T</span>]] <span style="color:#6F4E37">&#9749;</span> [[Special:Contributions/QEDK|<span style="color:#060">C</span>]])</small></span> 19:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
You should run for crat. --<span style="font-family:'Tahoma',Geneva,sans-serif">[[User:QEDK|<span style="color:#93f">QEDK</span>]] <small>([[User talk:QEDK|<span style="color:#c60">T</span>]] <span style="color:#6F4E37">&#9749;</span> [[Special:Contributions/QEDK|<span style="color:#060">C</span>]])</small></span> 19:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
:{{yo|QEDK}} They are hidden away, just kidding they are [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=200602170500000&limit=1&type=rights&user=Cecropia right here], but not easily retrieved due to a bug (they were issued using the old interface that allowed inputting a lowercase letter for the first character and executing the change). Thanks for the nod, I've thought about it, but the needs for crats is pretty low still - I was about to "run" for oversight last time, but a personal commitment was keeping me off line for a bit - will probably throw my hat in to that one if it comes around again. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:32, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
:{{yo|QEDK}} They are hidden away, just kidding they are [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=200602170500000&limit=1&type=rights&user=Cecropia right here], but not easily retrieved due to a bug (they were issued using the old interface that allowed inputting a lowercase letter for the first character and executing the change). Thanks for the nod, I've thought about it, but the needs for crats is pretty low still - I was about to "run" for oversight last time, but a personal commitment was keeping me off line for a bit - will probably throw my hat in to that one if it comes around again. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 19:32, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
::Seriously, why aren't you a crat yet? You've been around for so long, you are one of our most active behind the scenes admin and someone who knows all the policies inside out. You already oversee the BAG and regularly provide valuable input at BN. Yours would be a much welcome addition to the bureaucrat group. - [[User:NQ|'''NQ''']] [[User talk:NQ|<small>(talk)</small>]] 19:38, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

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Category:Films directed by David MacDonald (director) ⋅

Hi Xaosflux

I was just wondering what happened with Category:Films directed by David MacDonald (director)?

I had tagged Category:Films directed by David MacDonald for speedy renaming to Category:Films directed by David MacDonald (director), and listed[1] it at WP:CFD/S.

I was just looking at the CFD/S list, and saw that the line was redlinked, but still listed.

A few checks, and I see that you created the new page and deleted the old one, that your bot Fluxbot updated the pages in the category.

It all seems to have been done OK, although the category page should really have been moved rather than copy-pasted, to preserve attribution. But that's no biggie.

However, my reason for posting is that I am puzzled about why you did this before the 48-hour waiting period had expired, and why you didn't remove the item for WP:CFD/S when done?

Was there some particular hurry? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:19, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@BrownHairedGirl: Hi there, so short story - was trying to verify a general bot processing problem that is going around (Wikipedia:Bot_owners'_noticeboard#Breaking_change) so I looked for one of the least controversial tasks I could find to do a short run on, happened to be this WP:CFDS. Not that there was really anything that we had to have attribution for on the category page, but I did just clean that up now with a history merge. I haven't really worked WP:CFDS lately, but in the past these usually got left on the page until a batch were done, so people could see progress. I don't plan on running any more anytime soon - let me know if you have any other concerns. — xaosflux Talk 16:10, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, fair enough. There was nothing controversial or out of order, it just seemed a little odd. But it makes sense now!
Thanks for processing it, and for the explanation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:12, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Let me apologize if I made the wrong request. I was just trying to protect a page but I don't know how to do it. How can I protect a page? For example my user page. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank R 1981 (talk • contribs) .

@Frank R 1981: - Hi there Frank, for the most part pages are not protected at all, that's one of the aspects of being a Wiki. Protection is a broad measure that only administrators can use, for example if I applied full page protection to User:Frank R 1981 then it means that no one can change it anymore, not even you. If you do want to nominate a page for protection, you can list it here: WP:RFPP. If you can explain what you are trying to accomplish, I may have some other suggestions for how to proceed. — xaosflux Talk 03:51, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help my friend. I hope I don't have to use the protection option anytime soon, but it was good to know how some stuff in Wikipedia work. ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank R 1981 (talk • contribs) .

You are welcome. — xaosflux Talk 04:22, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Persistent page title

Hi Xaosflux. I have another question. A couple of days ago I edited a Wikipedia page and requested that it be moved to a previous title since the move feature is not available for previous page titles. In spite of being moved to a different title (which is correctly displayed on the article), Google Search still shows it with the old title. How can I completely get rid of it? The page in question is Lake Junin which, when a google search in english is done, still displays the name Chinchayqucha. Thanks in advance for any help. Frank R 1981 (talk) 16:44, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Everything actually looks like it should; the page title is now at Lake Junin, but we left a redirect behind at Chinchayqucha in case anything was linked to it; google caches usually take a bit to update it should in time. — xaosflux Talk 17:07, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Xaosflux. I feel relieved because I thought I messed up something. Well, I guess it's all in Google's hands now. ;) Frank R 1981 (talk) 17:15, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Protecting the unprotected

Hello Xf,

I noticed that you protected the page User talk:Jimbo Wales/Unprotected. Protecting that page defeats its purpose, which is to allow folks an avenue to appeal to Jimbo, even when his regular talk page is semi-protected. His regular talk page is a valuable resource to the community IMHO but gets hit with lots of trolling from anons. But he likes to have a way for appeals to be made. Thus the idea of having an unprotected page. On the unprotected page, very little damage can be done, because it will simply be anons talking to Jimbo, or anons talking to anons. This was discussed in some detail at [2]

In any case, I'll request that you not protect that page, or at least be very careful and only protect it when absolutely needed. Let me know if I can be of any help.

Sincerely,

Smallbones(smalltalk) 05:26, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Smallbones I only protected this page from being moved away to another page, so that a vandal can't make it inaccessible. — xaosflux Talk 14:14, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I see. Sorry for the mistake and thanks for move-protecting it! Smallbones(smalltalk) 14:33, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much for your very quick help here. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 15:53, 21 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Change to WP:AN page

Hi. I've reverted your edit, as it's a long-standing transclusion from the closure page to the AN page, and we keep the status quo. You were bold, I reverted it, so feel free to start a discussion on the relevant talkpage to gain a consensus about this. Of course, you're also free to help out in clearing the backlog too, so it no longer becomes an issue. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:54, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, was trying to be BOLD, no worries on the revert. — xaosflux Talk 14:41, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ENB

Hi,

I was just looking through the code/history of WP:ENB to figure out why it wasn't archiving and think that I found the issue. Here it looks like you archived some old ambassador applications by placing the archive top above the level-2 header (i.e. outside the application) and later manually archived here based on section headings rather than archive top. I actually have to run now, so can't look through it to figure out what that affected (I'm only operating under the presumption that's why it's not updating, i.e. a stray DoNotArchiveUntil or something). Could you take a look?

Thanks --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:28, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User:Ryan (Wiki Ed) I think I got that noticeboard all cleaned up now, ran a large manual archiving, kicked the bot counter up, and closed out some old failed applications and archived them too. Will need to see if it resolves during next archive period. — xaosflux Talk 05:14, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Thanks, by the way, for being one of the only people following up with the ambassador applications. You may be interested to check out User talk:Tokyogirl79/Wikipedia:WikiProject Online Ambassadors, where a few of us (me with my volunteer account, i.e. not connected to Wiki Ed) are talking about where to take that program / how to revitalize it. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:44, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you

Hi Xaosflux,

I totally could not figure out how to directly talk back to you from the Account Creator request, but I wanted to 1) answer your question that I am affiliated with Harn Museum and the event, and 2) to say thanks.

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This is a new account created today. It does not have permissions to use AWB. The AWB request page says for bots, check with the bot approvers for access. Is that something you can help with or should I post on WP:BN? Thanks. -- GreenC 20:06, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing content models

Looking at the "shells" you created at WT:MMS I see that you changed the content model. The MediaWiki docs didn't help much... care to explain how this works and how you actually change it? I am very curious — MusikAnimal talk 21:46, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The "short answer" is go here: Special:ChangeContentModel. I can work on a long answer later :D — xaosflux Talk 22:15, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also for JUST MMS you can alternatively use: Special:CreateMassMessageList. — xaosflux Talk 22:15, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
MusikAnimal Here's a ping too :D — xaosflux Talk 22:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Woah, User:MusikAnimal/Test is now JS, but no .js extension! I don't really understand a use-case, but very cool!!! I'll have to read more about the mass message list stuff, that is new to me as well — MusikAnimal talk 23:04, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
MusikAnimal Yup, don't go breaking the wiki now :D Note, .js pages are protected by the backend, but some of the others are not (thus why users can move those "shell" pages to use them - standard protection is ALSO available if say you make a massmessage content page that needs to not be moved or edited. — xaosflux Talk 23:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ineeee/new article name here

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Ineeee/new article name here is a bit complicated. There was a NAC relisting (can non-admin relist discussions? I thought that a contentious discussion meant that an admin had to close it) that was reverted based on the lack of closure of the silly relisting RFCs at WT:MFD. I support deletion but I don't know how to resolve these MFDs. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:41, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ricky81682 That one sure is messy - I added some post closing notes to the page, I'm sure they won't solve any NAC or RELIST issues - but are not intended to - just getting one more page off the backlog. For what it is worth, I disagree with the removal of the additional comments by the anon editor, and did use them in closing the discussion. — xaosflux Talk 12:53, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Permissions

Hi, in attempting to run WaybackMedic for the approved trial run, AWB aborts with a window "Captcha required, is the account user autoconfirmed etc?" I checked the bot's profile settings and the email was confirmed days ago. Manually editing a page works, no captcha required. Any idea? Looks like a new account permission problem. -- GreenC bot (talk) 19:15, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

After looking up autoconfirmed (forgot about that) and made 10 whatever edits now it's working. -- GreenC bot (talk) 20:06, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, missed that - there is a "confirmed" flag we can manually put on new account - but now that you are autoconfirmed you should be good to go. — xaosflux Talk 20:40, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Vanished user 342562/Sandbox/WikiProject United States Government invitations

I just did this. 103.6.159.83 (talk) 06:33, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the note, I did revert your removal of the other person's comment - but added your concern. You can't just "say" someone is banned, it needs to be justified and documented before removing notes; can you provide a SPI/AN/etc discussion about this address or range to back up your claim? — xaosflux Talk 13:21, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Import/Aloe globuligemma

Hi, Thanks a lot. Before asking You for the import, I checked my translating skills of course in the sandbox. Neverthless will there be a lot of work for native speakers and biologists.--Bussakendle (talk) 17:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:Cover of Web Of Spider-Man-124.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Cover of Web Of Spider-Man-124.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. NeoBatfreak (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

NeoBatfreak I didn't upload that file. — xaosflux Talk 16:58, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi: You closed the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:How to make a simple braid as delete, but the page at Draft:How to make a simple braid has not been deleted. Just a heads up. Cheers, North America1000 03:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux Talk 14:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Wombo draft, you deleted Draft:Wombo draft but did not delete the article another user added later to the nomination, Draft:Wombo. North America1000 04:04, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux Talk 14:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It happens. Cheers, North America1000 14:07, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for approving my request for account creator status for our upcoming edit-a-thon. I understand that with great power comes great responsibility, and I'll use my powers only for good. — Sodapopinski7 (talk) 15:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Open Requests for permissions (rollback)

I have requested rollback rights and I haven't heard anything back, could you please review my request? Thank you! — Music1201 talk 20:18, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See response there. Also, you shouldn't focus on "minimum guidelines". — xaosflux Talk 21:39, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Can you provide further detail on why my request was denied. I have 1) A valid reason for using those rights and 2) Proof that I can be trusted with the rights and a demonstration of previous vandalism fighting. — Music1201 talk 03:03, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
See my notes on that page, your recent reversions of other editors, without engaging them for productive conversation, fails to demonstrate that you will only revert when strictly appropriate. I suggest you continue to edit for at least a month before going through the request process a third time. — xaosflux Talk 03:08, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Page you deleted and then undeleted has been renominated

If you have time, could you look at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Cinteotl/stats? (The original MFD was Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Fearofreprisal/stats.)

I also am not sure if I should inform User:Cinteotl. Part of your reason for undeleting was apparently because I had not informed him. (Cinteotl gave it as a reason you should undelete, but the only reason you yourself gave was that the MFD had not been supported by anyone and was later contested.) I think (it was a long time ago) that my reason for not informing Cinteotl was that I believed informing him would constitute baiting him into violating his TBAN (I believed the creation of the page itself was a TBAN-violation -- I don't remember if anyone agreed with me). The TBAN is still in place, so I am not sure if he should be informed this time; ArbCom doubled down on his TBAN.

Any thoughts?

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I notified him, put some specific instructions for him, and moved some conversations from that nomination to its talk page. I'm sure I've done SOMETHING wrong in all of this - but I think it is what is best to move forward. — xaosflux Talk 02:53, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

extendedconfirmed

Hi - I'm going to be off line for a bit, if anything I did in the last few hours related to this new group has broken anything, please don't wait to consult me - just revert and leave a note. — xaosflux Talk 03:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

back on - looks like the place didn't burn down :D — xaosflux Talk 11:13, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Extendedconfirmed padlock colour

Where should I go if I want to try and get the colour of the padlock changed? I feel as though the dark blue is too obtrusive at the moment and a nice, light blue padlock would work a lot better. is the current one, and is what I'm suggesting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 06:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anarchyte I'd start at Wikipedia talk:Protection policy - it is controlled in templates and modules - but that page will get more traffic. — xaosflux Talk 11:14, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Extended confirmed user right

Why is it suddenly being added automatically to a large group of people (ie those on my watch list). Thanks. Doug Weller talk 09:47, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore that, I hadn't read the latest ArbCom emails. Doug Weller talk 09:54, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RFA opened

I really, honestly don't know why the burden is on me to clarify whether Cinteotl is allowed argue that the page should stay (I'm not the one under the TBAN), but I went ahead and opened it anyway. If you want to comment, it's here. Cheers! Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:11, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, the reason why is because it is in his userspace and the arguments for venue change do not appear frivolous, if this was a page elsewhere on the encyclopedia I would not have suggested the same. I did comment, thank you for letting me know about this issue. — xaosflux Talk 14:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request for administrative attention

Hi. Sorry to bother you with this out of the blue, but Slakr appears to be absent, I've bothered Mr. Stradivarius so much recently that it's probably starting to get annoying, and you've struck me (around the place) as being smart and reasonable (and technically inclined), so luckily for you ;-) here I am.

Would you consider taking a look at an ongoing problem that I already reported to WP:ANEW where Slakr responded in agreement that the editor was warring but no action was taken?

The editor reported is continuing to guard his version of Acetone peroxide against many other editor's wishes, and has taken to telling me to take deep breaths and calm down (which unsurprisingly pisses me off).

They're standing in the way of simple maintenance deletion of {{Multiple issues 2}} which they created to sidestep consensus and push ahead with changes they desire, currently being discussed derailed at {{Multiple issues}} (talk) - a discussion where again I am being told how I think and how I shouldn't.

I admit to being at the end of my tether and have unwatched all the related pages in this fiasco, for fear of overstepping my own personal line in the sand and saying something unacceptable. But because of this, the situations are likely not going to be resolved any time soon.

If you could please take a few minutes to review the situation as you find it, and if nothing else, fix the disagreeable use of {{Multiple issues 2}} on Acetone peroxide in accordance with multiple editor's wishes, that'd be great. Then, if you feel so inclined, perhaps you could reinstate the speedy delete I placed on {{Multiple issues 2}} (single use, substantial copy)?

Again, I realise this is out of the blue, and off the beaten track, but I've already taken the correct path, and fell flat on my face; Slakr may have agreed that the editor is warring, but with no follow up, it was ineffective. fredgandt 14:40, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Fred Gandt: Sooooo is this whole fiasco about whether or not an optional parameter should be added to Template:Multiple issues? As far as the use of the alt-template on an article until that gets resolved, I don't think it has any real impact on the project and can be ignored until the template issue is resolved - if it is at an impasse the questions on forking that template would be: is it hurting anything? — xaosflux Talk 15:43, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking a look. No, it's not the end of the world, and the sky is not falling. Should the will of one editor be imposed on all opposition and by implication be supported? Technically, there's hardly a ripple on the waters, but as a matter of principle, great waves are smashing against a listing ship (yay for words). fredgandt 18:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My opinion is to update Template:Multiple issues to support the additional parameter, once the RfC is closed one way or the other - bring the new template to TfD - if the consensus is that the parameter is not appropriate, then working around consensus via a fork is bound to fail as well. — xaosflux Talk 18:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion at Template talk:Multiple issues overall leans against allowing editors to change the main talk link, and in favour of instead, of allowing the abbreviated children to show their own. As such, at this time, adding the proposed parameter would be contrary to consensus. But in truth, no matter the result of that discussion (which as far as I'm concerned is neither here nor there. que sera), the editor is still not conceding to the wishes of multiple other editors in the article space. Anyhoo, never mind. These things are sent to try us. fredgandt 21:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Extended Confirmed

My understanding is that the right is auto-promoted, but I don't seem to have it (even though I qualify). I don't see an "Edit" link on Gamergate controversy anymore. Is there something I need to do to activate the right?--Jorm (talk) 01:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Whoah. That was cool. I was promoted immediately upon saving the edit right above. This is an interesting MediaWiki bug but one I doubt will ever be fixed. --Jorm (talk) 02:05, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jorm: I think it is more of a feature then a bug - the update to the new group only fires "on edit" otherwise it would kill the servers to have to check "on read". — xaosflux Talk 03:08, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The bug is that even though I had earned the promotion, it wasn't viable when I went to a protected page. The smart solution to the bug is to check on read when you first go to a page that has that level of protection.
Also, it wouldn't kill the servers to do on read calculations in this case; it would only happen for logged in users, of which there are a very, very small percentage compared to the actual readership. In fact, all logged in users bypass the cache and are served freshly compiled PHP whenever they hit a page, and the calculation of their user rights could happen then.
(For context, I served as the senior designer at the WMF for about five years and have a pretty solid understanding of MediaWiki internals).
Anyways, it's small potatoes. Maybe I'll mention it to Ori and see what he says.--Jorm (talk) 03:28, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
True logged in is much less, here is the change that enabled it: phab:T126607 if you want to get right to the tech details. — xaosflux Talk 03:58, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, Krenair handled it. Yeah, no one is going to fix that. It's the easiest solution and that's how MW rolls. --Jorm (talk) 04:01, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki:Robots.txt request

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 Done @Pteroinae alternate: @Pteroinae: Added here: Special:Diff/714710121 — xaosflux Talk 11:21, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User fb-4

Hi. On Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User fb-4 you missed Template:User fb-3 for deletion as well. <g> Le Deluge (talk) 18:25, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you  Done — xaosflux Talk 18:33, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Blank single-author pages

Hi. You asked a while back at DBR about a better version of Wikipedia:Database reports/Blank single-author pages. If it's any help, I've replicated the query with a bigger limit at Quarry. It needs some tidying up - you will have to download the results and manually translate the namespace number to actual namespace using the table at the top of Wikipedia:Namespace, so "1 AltiGator" needs to become Talk:AltiGator and so on, and the handling of Unicode characters needs some attention, but apart from that it should be good enough for your purposes. Cheers.Le Deluge (talk) 15:55, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! — xaosflux Talk 17:26, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Your signature

In the "Talk" part of your signature, could I interest you in  #4c924c  instead of  #00ff00 . The colour hurts my eyes (it's trivial but wouldn't hurt to ask, would it). --QEDK (T ☕ C) 16:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@QEDK: I'm OK to change to a different shade, let me mock some up, not sure if I'm in love with 4c924c (I try for ones in the Web_colors#Web-safe_colors list) What do you think of these below? — xaosflux Talk 17:51, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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My eyes say yes to the last 3. (Thanks!) --QEDK (T ☕ C) 18:47, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done — xaosflux Talk 18:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Lovely. --QEDK (T ☕ C) 19:12, 18 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The discussion around the rights to be bundled in Page mover has set me thinking. move-subpages would seem to be of most use in relation to templates which, in the cases which require TE attention, usually come with the set of /sandbox, /testcases, and /doc. Should the priv be added to the TE set? Can't say that I've come across a situation in the 9 months I've been servicing requests at TPERTable, but it seems a logical step to ensure that TEs would be able to service the full set of requests. Your thoughts please? Bazj (talk) 19:01, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Bazj: I don't specifically object to this, but don't think it is that needed. The place it is the most needed is talk pages, which may have tons of archives. Most templates that are TE protected are fairly "stable" - and not often renamed (moved). If someone was involved in moving template around a lot, then they certainly could qualify for the proposed page-mover as well. — xaosflux Talk 21:15, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Then again, I see TE as "more advanced" tha the proposed page-mover, so that makes perfect sense to me. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 21:35, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Null edit

That was a dummy edit, not a null edit. ;) nyuszika7h (talk) 14:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well yes it was :D — xaosflux Talk 14:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rapid MfD deletions

Hi Xaosflux,

I am sure your closes are right, but looking at a couple:

  • Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Shiva eng2002/Veeramani.K "Non-notable musician with no references". These are so common and so obvious, it should be a speedy criterion? Little issue with a SNOW delete, except maybe for a SNOW on the first day on the basis on the nomination statement, maybe in your close you should assert that the nom is right?
Hi @SmokeyJoe: Unless you want to really contest these, I'm not going back to them (in which case I'll revert and let them run) - but will try to put more context in to future snow closes. If I'm closing per snow it is not strictly a CSD criteria, but those that I think really have no chance at MfD (regardless of the nominators statement). We've had a huge backlog at MfD lately and I'm trying to get it under control. I do look at every page I delete prior to deleting and am a huge advocate of merging histories to ensure even the smallest oldest attributions are maintained. I think we still have a project wide gap on what should and what should not be allowed in non-article space, including all the variants of sandboxes and drafts that are "core content" related; I can see the POV's of the people that say who cares-put anything and the "this better become an article very soon" camps - but the overall community consensus is still very gray. Sorry to ramble on and on here - let me know if you want to actually object to any speedy I make, I will almost always revert unless it is obvious disruption (attack pages/blatant copyvio/etc). — xaosflux Talk 03:59, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Xaosflux. No, no intention to contest, but just a little more context would be great. Thanks for working on the horrendous backlog. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:04, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) @SmokeyJoe: (and also directed at Xaosflux) What would your thoughts be on proposing a couple obvious speedy deletion criteria to help limit the needed nominations? I've admittedly been one of the worst offenders in contributing to the backlog because I've been trying to weed out some of the incredibly obvious spam from the draft/user space. There's probably a few categories that could be made into speedy deletion criteria for the draftspace (not userspace) with no major objection. The one that comes to mind immediately is "Biographies of living persons where the primary subject is a minor (less than eighteen years of age) or group of minors and no reliable sources are provided." ~ RobTalk 08:24, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have long noted a missing BLP CSD. BLP deletions are longstanding practice, but undocumented. I suggest "Unsourced private information on a child or private individual, or any unsourced negative material on any living person." Pages consisting predominantly of this should be deleted. Small amounts in an otherwise acceptable page should be removed per WP:BLP. Use of Wikipedia:Revision deletion may be appropriate. I think this would cover BU Rob13's desire.
New CSD criteria need to be well drafted to get a serious hearing.
NB. In my grumpy moments over busywork nominations, I don't consider BU Rob13 to be an offender. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:41, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In regards to a new CSD, I don't think the age of the subject should be a primary factor; GNG is too rigorous for drafting, but perhaps a DNG where there should be some assertions that the GNG will ever be reachable should be required within some timeline of starting the draft. — xaosflux Talk 11:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think my page is the best place to come up with an answer, but personally I think WP:DRAFTPROD should be revived, but tweaked, perhaps a longer wait period (a month?) and be inclusive of any encyclopedic content that is being drafted (not necessarily only the draft namespace, but also user subpages exclusive of generic sandboxes -- which can easily be reset). — xaosflux Talk 11:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Why can't I find your rights log where you were granted sysop and more....

You should run for crat. --QEDK (T ☕ C) 19:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@QEDK: They are hidden away, just kidding they are right here, but not easily retrieved due to a bug (they were issued using the old interface that allowed inputting a lowercase letter for the first character and executing the change). Thanks for the nod, I've thought about it, but the needs for crats is pretty low still - I was about to "run" for oversight last time, but a personal commitment was keeping me off line for a bit - will probably throw my hat in to that one if it comes around again. — xaosflux Talk 19:32, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, why aren't you a crat yet? You've been around for so long, you are one of our most active behind the scenes admin and someone who knows all the policies inside out. You already oversee the BAG and regularly provide valuable input at BN. Yours would be a much welcome addition to the bureaucrat group. - NQ (talk) 19:38, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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